Archie Mountbatten-Windsor was born on May 6th. It’s likely that almost everything in Europe and North America will still be in lockdown in early May, although here in America, Donald Trump is still talking about “re-opening” in May, so who knows. What I do know is that public events, sporting events, festivals and more have all been cancelled and postponed through June/July. The Queen begrudgingly cancelled everything in her May “garden party” season, and it’s looking like all June events will be cancelled as well. The Royal Ascot people said this week that they’re looking to hold the actual horse-race of Ascot but close the event to the public. Who knows. The point is that plans are in disarray and of course the Duke and Duchess of Sussex will not go to England to celebrate Archie’s first birthday with the Windsors.
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry are having to take a rain check on their plans for son Archie Harrison’s first birthday. With much of the future up in the air thanks to the coronavirus, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex are having to re-think how they will celebrate their baby’s first birthday. A source tells E! News that prior to the coronavirus pandemic, Meghan, Harry and Archie had planned to travel back to the United Kingdom where the rest of the Royal Family currently resides, but the insider says, “Plans have changed.”
“I think the hope in royal circles had been that the Sussexes would return to the U.K. in May, either before or after their attendance at the Invictus Games in The Netherlands next month, and they were also due to attend the Queen’s Birthday Parade, Trooping the Colour on June 13,” the sources explains. “But with both those events now cancelled, and Harry and Meghan holed in California where they are likely to be social distancing for the next few weeks, Archie is set to celebrate his first birthday with only his parents.” As E! News previously reported, the Duke and Duchess moved from a vacation home in Canada to Los Angeles in late March.
The source adds, “The hope had been that Archie’s first birthday would somehow be marked with some members of the royal family, cousins, grandparents and some godparents in the U.K. when they were over in the U.K.”
Despite being unable to meet with their family in Britain, the source says they “possibly” will celebrate Archie’s birthday with Meghan’s mother, Doria Ragland. She resides nearby in Los Angeles and is close enough to meet with Meghan, Harry and Archie, but that’s still undecided since it’s unclear if there will be any restrictions in place in the state of California at the time of his birthday.
I wonder if it going to England for Archie’s birthday was really part of their original plan. I don’t doubt that they were planning to visit for Trooping the Colour, maybe, or Beatrice’s wedding (late May), but I just doubt that they were ever planning to see the Windsors in early May. And ten bucks says that all of the Windsors and their social media accounts completely ignore Archie’s birthday. Harry and Meghan left for a reason, never forget.
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“ten bucks says that all of the Windsors and their social media accounts completely ignore Archie’s birthday”
I will take that bet because given how the House of Petty has behaved so far I am willing to bet that all the Royal social media accounts will be all over it. it will be another attempt to make H&M look like the unreasonable ones, taking poor little Archie sooooo far away from his family (completely ignoring the fact that Meghan has family too) to live in the colonies of all places, denying him the opportunity to learn exactly where his place is in the royal pecking order.
Yep, I think you’re onto something there.
I agree, too…. but there will be a rather “flat” acknowledgement…no real warmth or joy to it. Perhaps Kate will stick a cake emoji, but that’d be it.
If all the Windsors ‘social media accounts ignore Archie’s birthday completely, that would be a very bad press for them, because even that the Sussexes have leaved them, Archie will still be Charles’ grandson, great grandson of the queen, and William’s nephew. For me they will post a few things on their social networks, then their men in gray talking to the press in the horrible way in which Meghan keeps Archie and Harry away from the Queen and Charles.
TheoG she doesnt go anywhere near archie during that polo match where her stans says she is mother Teresa of children. She doesnt even acknowledged archie. She is fake and her kids saviour is fake too. She love her children but she doesnt love other kids . She always act fake around children of color. People who claim love kids cant resist of holding them. She never held any children other than her own. She children loving is hyped by her stans . Harry is nature children lover by the way he interact with kids .
I disagree. The Windsor’s will recognise Archie’s birthday. The British media are starving for Sussexes stories and so will try to squeeze several stories out of it. It remains to be seen if the Cambridge’s will leak details of their gift to Archie. Tradition dictates that Charles and William will give Archie a gift of value
If there is an acknowledgement of Archie’s birthday, I expect it will be from Charles since that’s his grandchild. Any public acknowledgements regarding Harry, Meghan & Archie should only come from Charles going forward – that is if he chooses not to take the petty and bitter route like others in that family.
I bet all the royal accounts post something about Archie. How else will the British press get the story out about how bad the Sussexes are and how good the Windsors are.
I still want to know what Charles’s role was in Sussexit. The whole story needs to come out.
I’m wondering why that “buddy buddy” photo op between Charles and William was staged. It was rather embarrassing. a short time later the spin was William was the face of the monarchy. I am wondering why Charles did not apparently do anything to help Harry, Meghan and Archie.
@BayTampabay…..l am also waiting to hear the inside story on Charles role in this. I actually think it will be connected to the the power struggles between Clarence House, Buckingham Palace and Kensington Palace. There were some rumours that Harry had said that ironically the bust up had brought Charles and William closer together. The survival of the monarchy means more to Charles than even the soft spot he had for Harry. Anyway this current saga has only just started.
Or W+K just might acknowledge it just to get good press and to make them look non-petty, not to mention their stans will call them wonderful and say how awful Meghan is for keeping their nephew away. The press will label it as an olive branch. It could go either way, however one things for sure is they won’t be sending him a present or a card or a happy birthday phone call. I reckon Williams only seen Archie no more than twice in his life.
@aria that reminds me of a comment I read about Kate a few years ago. A woman who worked for a children’s charity that Kate is a patron for said that she cancelled like 8 times before she eventually turned up and when she did visit, she didn’t bother hugging any of the sick kids, she just smiled for the camera and made minimal conversation, then left.
We can recognize fake miles away. Beacuse as a child lover myself I cant resist holding them or touching chubby cheeks of kids. After all these years Kate never held any babies. We can give excuse many people dont know how to hold the babies etc but after having three kids of her old she never did. May be only one time during that this year visit I guess. Also if she fans claim was true , none of the friends ask her to be the godmother to their kids. I mean if my friend who claim to mother Teresa of kids , I will surely ask her to be my child god parent. Out of all her friend she has being god mother to one child it speaks the volume. We can say security beacuse William is god parents to many of his friend kid. Even in the polo match after Louis born , she was sitting near her friend baby and she never held those baby either.( this is one where george was pushed by one of peter kids). Heck we never saw her with pippa kids either. Where that will be good pr for middleton but we didnt see photos of Kate with her nephew either.
Ps. In coming weeks we saw Kate with pippa kids I will die beacuse cambridges pr team is lurking here and so many ideas they are doing lately have been originated here in celebitchy.
Aria, can you please not use the term child lover! My God….
I never bought that Kate was “so wonderful” with kids. The only reason she is doing mental heath with kids is because she has nothing to show for being in the RF for years. She is a mom so they thought it would be a good fit. Meghan has shown more interest in the RF kids than Kate ever has. I do wonder when Harry and Meghan open their new Instagram account, if they will wish other members of the RF a Happy Birthday. That will be interesting.
@aria yeah I’m surprised we haven’t seen kate have a play date with Pippa and her nephew, I wonder why ma Middleton hasn’t arranged something and invited her favourite paps to come along and watch.
I agree she generally comes off as quite cold and uninterested in everything including other people’s children. I don’t sense any real warmth or empathy from her, I think she’s someone who is good at faking it. Even little babies smile at harry and they have no clue who he is cos they can sense he’s genuine.
I hope team Cambridge does lurke here and I hope they realise they ain’t shit.
@A – Aria is ESL. AKA, not a native speaker of english. Cut her some slack. You know what she means. And it isn’t HRH Prince Andrew of York.
I don’t always agree with Aria but I do understand what she is saying.
I could see the Cambridges ignoring Archie’s birthday but I really hope his grandfather doesn’t.
Of course it will all be turned around by the critics that Archie was “deprived” of a birthday with his family because of his parents. And how ‘broken hearted” his UK relatives are. The Queen will “miss” his birthday.
I really do not think the Princess Royal, Kents or the Gloucesters will be “broken hearted” one bit. The Daily Fail is so emotionally over-the-top with these Royal porkie pie stories.
Man Doria is classy. So beautiful
Yes, and she has an effortless chic.
TQ may have the best brooch game — but Doria has some amazing shawl game.
Doria has shawl game, and Meghan has cape game. If it drapes around the neck and shoulders, the Ragland women can ROCK it.
The RF social media accounts will do exactly what they do with other Royal birthdays. Whatever his parents instruct to be done. Their kid. Their call.
Exactly. Starve the media as well. Give them nothing at all and continue to raise him out of the public eye.
I’m really disgusted about the media’s obsession with not only the Sussexes but Archie. I don’t understand why people have to see and know everything about a child for. People are writing whole stories and columns about how Meghan and Harry should do this or that with Archie. It’s like, have y’all not been paying attention? He doesn’t have a title and from day one, just through Harry and Meghan’s actions, they have shown over and over again that he will be raised out of the public eye. Watch, there will be faux outrage because he’s not seen on his birthday and it’s really pathetic. The entitlement specially from the media is sickening. I’m glad they don’t pimp out their son and keep him as far away from the glare of the media and public as possible. Leave him alone. I hope the royals don’t say anything, they didn’t say anything as his mother was tortured by the media while pregnant with him and that says a lot.
The media is playing catch up. All through the pregnancy they spoke of Baby Sussex as not having a title as if the only way to access status is with a title. It was a form of harrassment to Meghan and some of her supporters just in defiance called him King Archie when he was born. Then the media realized that they would have limited access and the increased cash incentive for pics etc. They went into colonial hangover and demand ownership to be able to sell him. They failed. So now they squawk and drone on and on. I think they know he is not for sale nor to be their play thing so they are :throwing their toys out of the pram”.
This is the sam British Media that thinks the Sussexes should pay back renovation costs on a house they do not own and do not live in.
QEII can just rent this house out id the Crown needs money or give to someone else grace-and-favor who deserves or needs it. This house was falling down so it to be renovated no matter who lived in it or demolished.
I believe the keen interest in seeing Archie after his birth, from the media and especially the “Why won’t they show him? “Our money paid for his birth so we have the right to see him!” and “Why aren’t there any photos of him?” outrage from the gentle commenters at Daily Mail, was to see the baby’s skin color. And after Harry and Meghan walked Archie out for his first photo call, a commenter at DM called the baby a ‘white ‘N’. For me, and this is my own humble opinion, Kate’s bitch-faced snub of Harry and Meghan at the church supports all the vile and racist things being hurled at the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.
Yes, the media also went after Kate in the beginning as well, but there was never the degree of mean spiritness, underscored by racism, that is directed at Meghan. And U.S. racists have gleefully joined the Daily Mailers (you know, the same ones who call Michelle Obama ‘Moochelle’ and compared her to an ape).
@Yvette, I agree completely. It’s so obvious! Except to racists.
I have seen such horrible comments on social media. including that Harry “never holds” Archie and she is the only one who does. It’s easy to see more than ever why Harry and Meghan left. And then the ones saying “something is wrong” with Archie.
Do the royals post about birthdays for eg Zara’s or Philip’s kids? If not wouldn’t expect them to for Archie, but if royal accounts do, they do I expect it’s for engagement as well as publicly showing solidarity. That NY times article said most popular posts KP insta related to the Sussexes& Archie especially& I imagine that’s the same for all royal social media.
People who don’t like Meghan& had nastiest things to say about her during her pregnancy are the most obsessed with Archie which shows this interest isn’t from a good place. The language around seeing Archie after he was born with Meghan’s harshest critics moaning about not being able to ‘have a look at him’ reminds me of those human zoos back in the day. There is an entitlement to Archie Ive not seen with eg the Cambridges kids. PRINCE Louis’ birthday is this month. Where’s the stories about birthday plans for him?
Keenness to see Archie is because they want a colour and features checks. It’s gross.
Archie isn’t safe in the UK. Threats against his mother are enough to keep this family in the US. I don’t think it has been in their plans to return to the UK.
To be honest, I don’t think they’ll go back unless for events and work and that’s it. That’s why the media are pissed because they see those dollars from stories, pictures and scoop completely gone. That’s why they want them back so badly because they made Harry and Meghan their meal ticket and they foolishly pushed them out. Talk about shooting themselves in the foot. They need all the luck they can get because those papers are floundering with this crisis, lack of Harry and Meghan and lawsuits, it’s going to be hard to bounce back from this.
She just did a week of events a month or so ago where she was well-received and I have no doubt that the RF would surround them with security.
There’s a game show on BBC called “Pointless” and a few days ago one of the topics was the Duchess of Sussex. It’s sort of a reverse “Family Feud” game where you have to pick an answer that you don’t think a lot of people know. Turns out most of the people surveyed didn’t even know Archie’s name. Hardly anyone knew Meghan’s mother’s name. My point is, people on this board, myself included, keep up on the Royal family, but it seems most Britons don’t. Sort of like how there are people in the US who know a lot about the Kennedys but the vast majority of people just have passing knowledge here and there.
People have been saying this a lot and It seems to be true because many brits on twitter actually support Meghan and Harry leaving (Republicans) or they don’t care.The media keep saying they speak for the public but a good majority don’t care about the royals at all. They keep saying Meghan and Harry are unpopular but with who? The media, absolutely, but the majority of brits could really give a hoot.
I would broadly agree, but add that among the majority who don’t normally care, Harry and Meghan are well supported when it comes to their treatment by the racist tabloid media or the “divorce” itself. People like that don’t know much of the detail, but the general opinion is positive – touchy-feely royals, modern and refreshingly determined to earn their own living – people *really* respect that. It’s easy to forget that many of the haters online aren’t Brits at all – they are MAGATS and trolls paid by the right-wing owners of the tabloids.
“They keep saying Meghan and Harry are unpopular but with who?”
@Brit – The commentariat of the Daily Fail….aka…. professional vile haters. The Daily Fail commentariat hates, Sunshine Sachs, SoHo House, The Beckhams, the Clintons, Oprah, Gayle King, the Obamas, Bernie Sanders, Jeremy Corbyn Serena Williams, Madonna, to some degree the Clooney’s and a person I have never heard of named Tim Sherwood. I apologize to anyone who has been routinely stalked and vilified by The Daily Fail that I left off the list.
I have several UK friends that live in the UK and several friends who live in Florida but are from the UK, Australia and New Zealand. The resident UK friends have a passing interest and the resident Florida friends do not really care.
The Meghan hate brigade is on Twitter claiming if the Sussexes don’t post a recent picture or video of Archie on his birthday, it’s a slap in the face to Sussex fans.
As a Sussex fan, I laugh at that. Though I like seeing cute babies as long as I don’t have to change them, I hope I don’t see a picture of Archie. He’s a baby, not someone’s property and no one is “owed” picture of him. We don’t own him and I love that his parents have cut the “but taxpayers!” argument off at the knees.
Sorry I just block those people.
I’m planning on donating and promoting charities for Archie’s birthday.
WTH is wrong with those people? The Sussexes have ‘left the building’, yet these nut cases are making up stupid scenarios, creating lies and then having the insane nerve to get worked up over the stupid sh*t they, themselves, instigate. They’re like mad dogs frothing at the mouth and drug addicts unable to let go of that high they get from hating Meghan. Just sickening.
I donated to #ArchieDay……..not because of a picture but because Archie is Meghan’s son and I will always support whatever Meghan starts or supports!!! Just like the Obamas, some miserable and unaccomplished people seem to suffer at the sight of POC excellence! that’s their issue to deal with! As someone said on Twitter (all credits to the person), Meghan was an A student in a class of F students; no wonder she was envied……..
As far as I am concerned, I hope she never sets a foot in that country ever again!!! Harry can deal with his family! I know she will as she still has some patronages there…..
@HMC – I have got a better story. Over at the Daily Fail and DataLounge (probably same posters) the new story of the week is that Harry & Meghan are withholding pictures of Archie so that when they do decide to release a picture of Archie they can extort $3 million from People Magazine to pay for their security. To borrow the Miami Herald’s Dave Barry’s tagline: I am not making this up!
They shouldn’t get their hopes up, they’d be very disappointed. I’m a fan of Meghan and Harry and I’m totally fine with never seeing Archie till he’s 18
I think that it is absolutely amazing how Sussex fans have donated to #Archie Day charities, the money keeps pouring in daily. Kudos to the fans who initiated it. Charities must be praying to become associated with the Sussexes. Also don’t forget the SussexGreatForest fundraiser which did so well and is associated with Archie’s birthday, l hope information will be released about that.
The only good thing about Kate snubbing Harry and Meghan at the Commonwealth services was that it put to rest any future bogus stories about how sad Kate is that her children can’t be best friends with their cousin Archie. Since she can’t even bother to glance in Harry & Meg’s direction when they are ten feet away from her then there is no basis for anyone believing she cares anything at all about Archie or his birthday. But she did get called out on her behavior, so let’s see if the new social media hire convinces her and Wills to change the narrative and use Archie’s birthday as way to do it. Appearances, y’all.
The Guardian called Cathy out on her behavior and The Guardian is a republican paper that makes every effort to ignore all things dealing with BRF accept the call for the sovereign to pay inheritance tax on all personal property & chattels inherited.
I agree Harper. The Cambridge’s ignoring Harry and Meghan was wonderful, in that it should their true colors and they got called out. I know on Omid’s podcast and the Royally Obsessed podcast they were talking about how bad it was and calling them out on how they couldn’t fake it for a couple minutes. It was glorious.
Judging by the absence of photographs of Archie in Queen and Charles’s office/home+their silence when he was called a chimpanzee, I think it’s safe to assume that these people dont care about him. Not even for publicity!
I think its fairly obvious that they wont be travelling back to the UK any time soon. Thankfully with the trooping of the colour cancellation as well as Beatrice’s wedding they don’t have to deal with this toxic family for a while(maybe until November).
Baby Archie will have a wonderful time celebrating his 1st bday with Doria and close loving family friends(via Skype).
The BM loves to analyze the photos on display whenever members of the RF are photographed in their homes/offices, and apparently, in his Birkhall office, at least for now, Charles has a photo of him “cradling Archie on the grounds of Clarence Housel” but the photo wasn’t one that had been published, so the publication wasn’t able to show a larger version. So it was a private family photo and the mag said it sat in a prime spot on top of the piano or some such thing. That gives me some glimmer of hope for Grandpa Chuck, at least…
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the-sun.com/lifestyle/632728/inside-prince-charles-office-birkhall/amp/
@Enny save your hope that was not a picture of Archie that was a picture of George when he was a baby,I’ve seen the full picture on another post.
If they post photos of Archie on their social networks for his birthday. The photos that will was choose will be interesting because none of members of Windsor’s family have really spent long time with Archie. So I bet the only photos that will can to be published will be Archie’s baptism photos.
I do believe that the only time the Queen has seen Archie was when that photo was taken. The same for Charles and the Cambridge’s. I don’t think that many in the RF have seen him because they don’t want to. The talk of how the RF just NEEDS to see Archie is disgusting. Harry and Meghan were really alone in that family.
Do you notice that People and E News are the only reputable media who indulge in speculation about the Sussexes? What do the have in common? Editors originally from the UK. It is as if they were …….
It might have been the plan to celebrate with his UK family while they were there for Trooping and Bea’s wedding. Would they have made a separate trip to see them for his birthday? Doubt it. The royal family hasn’t shown that much interest in the kid. If anyone acknowledges his birthday, it’ll be Clarence House and Archewell IG.
“The hope had been…”
Allow me to translate: “We, the royal reporters, racist AF and taking orders from on high at KP, are running out of money because Harry and Meghan were our bread and butter. If they came HERE for little Archie’s birthday, HM would have MADE them do a photo op, or release a picture, or the FFK&Q would have LEAKED one to us. HOW DARE THEY deny us our hard cash money just because we’re so racist AF that we’ve endangered their lives?? How dare she Duchess while black?? The nerve!!”
I think the Cambridges will make up for the very public horrible and contemptible disregard and meanness they displayed toward the Sussexes during the Commonwealth. They were totally lambasted for their rude and unroyal behavior. Therefore, for the sake of appearances, I think they will greet Archie on his birthday on their IG— although begrudgingly and resentfully. In other words, the greeting to Archie is not heartfelt and loving. It’s undoubtedly phony and fake all around. You bet .
I made the mistake of reading a thread on Twitter attacking the Sussexes.
It was disturbing. I won’t repeat what was said but I did report tweets that were threatening Archie. What kind of monster wishes harm to a baby? I just don’t understand how you can hate someone so much.
Pandemic or not, I didn’t see them stepping foot in the UK for Archie’s birthday. I never even considered it an option. For what reason? The UK harbors bad memories for them right now and I wouldn’t want to spend my son’s first birthday in the place where I was hounded and harassed all throughout my pregnancy. If the family wants to see them they can go to the Sussexes or video call. I’m sure the royal accounts will post about Archie because whether or not they like the Sussexes, they LOVE the engagement they bring, ignoring him would not be seen in a positive light and why miss an opportunity to further the narrative that Mean Ole Meg is blocking communication?
I think all royal account will post wishes on Louis and charoltte and completely ignored archie. All those kiss arse rr will say they left this is royal account and wish only for working member and their kids blah blah and write a dozens of articles about how this is Sussex fault.
@aria, I completely agree with you on this. Even if the ‘royals’ don’t post anything for Archie’s birthday I seriously don’t think they will get dragged for it, they know their audience and that audience hates the Sussexes, Archie included and really don’t see them as family members. The ‘royals’ are pandering to their fans who are mostly racist and hateful. I didn’t see one bad article or media outlet here in the UK that called out the Cambridges for their rude behaviour at the Commonwealth service. They know they can get away with whatever.
I’m not even sure why this would be a story since there is a worldwide pandemic happening. But we can all rest assured that the Party Pieces Website will make sure that Archie’s birthday is remembered.
I’m a nurse who works in New York State. After dealing with COVID19 and its effects for twelve hours straight 3 to 4 days a week, sometimes more, I actually like these non earth shattering stories. Heck, some days I get off shift and I NEED them to help decompress from the hours before.
But that’s me.
I agree in the larger scheme of things, in the face of a pandemic, it’s very trivial.
That would be such a lovely gesture.
After the way they were treated there, why the hell?? I’m sorry but just like maga’s changed my view of America, so much that I really don’t care to visit again, the way Brits chased her out of the country has changed my view of England, so much that I don’t care to go there again, not the friendliest place for visitors.
Yingyang If you want to visit the British isles, try Scotland, an absolutely beautiful country and the people are nice. I have lived up there before and would live up there again but couldn’t stand the weather 24/7, but what the weather lacks in warmth the people make up for it, they have always been so good to me and very helpful from the Isle of Lewis right down to Edinburgh and I am a black woman.
Hey BohemianAngel thanks for the advice, I really appreciate it!
No probs! 😀
Hi! Northern Irish commenter here (who lived in England for over a decade post college). If you don’t want to visit England, i totally get it, it’s started to show its true colours (pun intended) post Brexit. But do visit the North of Ireland when this is all over, we’re really friendly and the Giant’s Causeway and that whole bit of coastline is one of the most spectacular in the world! There are loads of great places in Britain outside of the insular DM reading bits of England… Xx
That is very sad. But l can assure you that many many British people are nice and kind. The Fail unfortunately manipulates weak minded people and has encouraged them to hate anything that has diversity associated with it.
LA -> London is an 11.5 hour flight across eight time zones.
Global pandemic or not, I’d have to think very long and very hard before taking a baby on a flight like that. No way I’d make that trip for cake and ice cream on a Wednesday. They may have planned to take him as part of several other events in May/June, but to think the Sussexes would fly half way around the world for a day the baby won’t remember is crazy.
Hope Meghan Reopen her Instagram that day (closed comments) and post pic of Archie bday. Insta gonna shut down lol
The Royal family know that with a post about Archie they will have likes and articles (there is more interest in Archie than in all the Cambridges babies pull together) so they will do something for his birthday. I’m sure about that.
I doubt it. They’re pretending the Sussexes don’t exist, because they are extremely angry the Sussexes told them to shove all their crap and left the UK, and specifically left it for LA, USA. They won’t have any new pictures of him and since the Sussexes currently aren’t on social media, there won’t be any official photos of him, unless they release it through their PR reps. I’ll donate to Archie day to mark it, but doubt there would have been any hoopla, even if they were over there.
Yes, you are correct. Even Buckingham Palace admitted that there was more interest, in terms of letters and requests for information from all over the world, than for any other royal baby. Another reason for alarm bells to ring in the ears of the Cambridge’s.
I do have a question for anyone that has followed Harry for years, has he always been treated so awful by the RF or is it just when he married Meghan?
IMHO the awful treatment started to show to the public when he married Meghan.
Even before Meghan came along, they would undermine him, or call him the party prince, or say he was James Hewitts son. He was supposed to be the fun, messy, dumb one. I honestly think they tried to chase away any woman he was interested in and expected Harry to be some skeevy bachelor well into his 40s, to be the Cambridge’s 3rd wheel, and make them look like the stable perfect family. So when he married a real adult woman, someone way out of left field with a career and her own life , the long knives really came out. These are people who will nurse a grudge forever. Forget Wallis Simpson, I still think they’re mad at Anne Boleyn.
Yeah. Since his early childhood he was made to feel lesser in comparison to his brother. The QM would blatantly favor William over Harry, and both he and Diana were upset about it. You can imagine how that kind of attitude from courtiers and family members in general was likely reinforced after Diana died. He was always the scapegoat for William, especially when they were young adults. Charles–who’s thrown his kids under the bus many times over the years–put out a story about being concerned about Harry using drugs (and I *think* there was something about sending him to rehab too).
What strikes me about Meghan coming into Harry’s life is that she probably made him realize how wrong and cruel it was to be treated like that. He was already in a much better place than he was in his teens/early adulthood, but it seems like she gave him that extra push to realize his potential and become his own person.
There’s a pattern of the first born/heir being treated in superior way even by family. It’s what they believe, that they are chosen/anointed (insert eye roll). There was a program broadcast during Queen’s Jubilee (I think) with RF home movies etc and commentary by Lady Sarah Chatto, Princess Ann. I recall one clip from QE’s coronation where Pr Charles and Prs Anne were goofing around (as toddlers do). The QM was scolding Ann but not Pr Charles. Princess Ann commented wryly that as heir Charles could do no wrong and that’s just the way it was. I think it’s sad as little kids would take this sort of crap to heart.
It appears now that George will be heavily favored by the family, judging by the dynasty photos earlier this year. It will go to the next generation, Unfortunately.
Yes there were stories (incl from ex royal staff) about nannies& the Queen Mother ignoring Harry whilst they focused on William due to his position which upset Diana.
Harry has done and said a lot of stupid& hurtful things& has deserved bad press at times but also if you follow byline investigations on twitter or YouTube, suggests he’s been spied on and harassed by the press since he was 16& Chelsy was as well as a teen dating him. So much for that royal protection.
he’s been thrown under the bus to help others reputation eg stories around teen pot use to boost Charles’ image as a great dad. Whilst other royals doing the same as Harry were shielded, he was exposed. William himself has said he partied more than Harry but it wasn’t reported. As others said think there’s more protection for future monarchs generally. But interestingly didn’t always extend to Charles who was cruelly mocked by the press for years& think that’s because of his views on eg the environment being at odds with the right wing press. I do think William receives more protection therefore as apart from being a more attractive, young future heir the right wing press think his views align with theirs& being surrounded by former Brexit political staff might support that.
Even before Meghan he was treated badly. Unfairly called stupid at school when he was probably dyslexic, and having to smile at all the inane ginger jokes, and William putting him down at every opportunity. Despite all that the public still saw that he was the most genuine of all the royals.
@MARIE He was always the family scapegoat. It’s well known that chuck tipped off the press to where harry went with his teenage friends and they caught him out drinking and voila it was front page news for days! That was when camilla was HATED and chuck was desperate to rehabilitate her image.
They further leaked stuff about harry smoking a marijuana sig (knowing that he was at a birthday party with William and his friends) only he was paraded and Charles got to play the “concerned parent” and he took him to NZ and other places to really play off this PR until a friend of chuck recommend harry join him volunteering in Africa( Botswana).
Thank you for that info. I have only started to follow him since his wedding so there is a lot I am finding out. I read an article by Byline Investigates, that someone from News of the World had someone follow Harry when he was 16. After a year they found no wrong doing so they spoke to Charles’s personal aids and tricked them into thinking Harry was using drugs. They tried to set up a fake drug sting for Harry. It’s nuts. He was a minor and they did that to him.
Why tf can’t they leave that family alone for goodness sakes? Archie isn’t even a year old and Is being discussed like he’s a business deal up for negotiation, do they discuss Zara’s kids or Sophie’s kid’s like this? You’d think Harry and Meghan were the only members of that family. I hope to God that they never return to that blasted hateful country, I don’t understand how a country can be that vile! Leave them alone. Prince Charles is really spineless for allowing this torture to happen!
It’s only April and they’re already frothing about seeing Archie on his birthday, a whole month away. The mob mentality toward the Sussex family is just off the chain crazy. I seriously wonder what’s going on with people over there. In NY Times, apparently a lot of 5G towers in U.K. have been vandalized and set on fire because people believe they spread Covid19. This is a supposedly advanced democracy with universal literacy. Like wtf?
I see a lot of loathing comments about Archie. No wonder they left.
The Brits need to be worrying about the 75,000 covid cases and almost 9,000 deaths. The only thing I seen today is that Boris Johnson is out of icu and walking around. They can stick their heads in the sand if they want to, the price they will pay will be enormous and deadly. Their concern and reasoning is in the wrong place. This disease will ravage the UK if they don,t get their heads out of their asses.
I think Archie’s birthday will not be acknowledged on royal social media accounts because the family don’t want to give the Sussexes any attention. The fact they are so prominent on the world stage is a big part of the problem for jealous family members so they aren’t going to give them any more.
i follow the Sussexes, but I can’t really say that all the grandchildren/great grandchildren get acknowledged by the official accounts of the RF. If it is not the case, then it would be dealt the same as the others. You know? I would no really mind. Let the little tyke enjoy his childhood. I am ambivalent by wanting good news of the Sussexes, but not wanting intrusion in their lives, not the press hounding their lovely child.
We don’t know if any of the royals sent Christmas presents to Archie. But after Sussexit and Snub-gate the BRF can’t afford to snub Archie. Archie’s birthday will be acknowledged especially by American media. It will generate a wave of bad press and image is everything.
Everytime I see Archie’s name come up in the tabloids the MORE I am glad Harry took his wife and baby and RAN!