Prince Harry took part in the Declassified podcast at some point in the past week, and the podcast dropped over the weekend. He was there to highlight the work of Team Rubicon UK’s Op RE: ACT initiative, which deployed 200 veterans across the UK to supply vulnerable communities with food and medical supplies and more. Harry volunteered with the same organization in 2015 in Nepal. Harry also spoke at length about veterans and the spirit of volunteerism and how people can support their communities in the current crisis. Some highlights:
Being a veteran: “I’m honored to be a veteran, and honored to be part of this community. I’m just so incredibly proud to see what these individuals up and down the country and across the world are doing on a day-to-day basis. What has happened, especially in the U.K., shows the very best of human spirit. It’s also proving that I think things are better than we’re led to believe through certain corners of the media. It can be very worrying when you’re sitting there and the only information you are getting is from certain news channels, but then if you are on the right platforms, you can really sense this human spirit coming to the forefront.”
Applauding medical workers and Team Rubicon UK veterans: “I want to say a huge thank you, as we all do, to the NHS workers and everybody that’s volunteering. Because up and down the U.K., there are literally hundreds of thousands of people volunteering. … It’s such a wonderfully British thing that we all come to help when we need it.”
Finding role models: “I’ve said in the past, before I became a parent myself, but for those mums and dads out there who sometimes struggle to see who the appropriate role models are for their kids, I always say that the military community—especially the WIS community—are, to me, some of the best role models out there. It’s about selflessness rather than selfishness and I think in today’s culture, in today’s world, we need more role models that are willing to put others ahead of themselves. I think that being part of a unit, being part of a team, and for me, wearing a uniform that was the same as everybody else’s, it kind of makes you feel totally equal, but at the same time makes you want do everything you can for the person on your left and your right. The life experiences that you get in such a short space of time not only grow you up, but they make and turn you into what I think is an exceptional human being… You represent something, you represent a community, you represent a certain set of values, and I believe that those values will be with you for the rest of your life and you want to do everything you can to give back.”
He spoke with depth and humanity and walked that fine line between saying “this crisis has brought out the best in people” versus saying “Britain is at its best when we’re in a crisis.” But of course there’s one quote from Harry which *some people* are trying to make into a thing by wildly and willfully misinterpreting it. Guess the quote! It’s this one: “It’s also proving that I think things are better than we’re led to believe through certain corners of the media.” Context clues show that he’s speaking about how the larger response to the pandemic has been “better than we’re led to believe,” as opposed to actually sitting there and arguing that Harry is trying to say that the virus itself has been hyped and overblown and that people aren’t really dying from it or whatever. Still, the Daily Mail and other outlets have run with this:
Prince Harry has sparked fury by claiming the UK’s Covid-19 crisis is not as bad as the public are being told. In an interview with the Declassifed podcast, the 35-year-old said that things here are ‘better than we are led to believe through certain corners of the media’. But his comments were branded ‘outrageous’ by expert Professor Karol Sikora, who asked: ‘What are his qualifications for making these comments — other than deserting his country in its hour of need?’
Prof Sikora, who has led antibody tests and is a former No10 adviser, told The Sun: ‘I think these remarks are outrageous. As for the media, I really don’t understand what Harry’s beef is. Journalists have been reporting the facts and have been doing great work in holding the Government to account. The media has also championed the NHS and become a key ally of doctors, nurses and key workers. They should be applauded, not vilified.’
While I’ll say that the one sentence alone is open to interpretation, again, look at the context. He’s praising the reaction to the pandemic. Enough. And I’m sorry, “deserting his country in its hour of need” LMAO. These motherf–kers are so salty, it’s amazing.
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I think he meant the unity of Britons after Brexit. But it’s the Daily Mail, they’re gonna do what they do best: make stuff up and distort what’s real.
Exactly. The fail knows that, but they also know the trolls only want the engative spin
Yeah, it was very clear that this was what he was saying. He basically said that the way we’ve seen people come together is a sign that the divisions between people aren’t as severe as you would believe if you only read rightwing tabloid media. But the tabloids saw an opportunity to both attack Harry and make Bill sound less tone deaf so they gleefully took it, knowing that the average person would never actually listen to the audio.
He didn’t desert shit lol. These people are grasping for the last of their straws, clearly.
I do get why that quote is a bit sketchy. I know he didn’t intend it to be, but I can see why people ran with it – just because that’s what they do. I know reading the headline I was like “oh god, Harry, what did you say?” but put into context, it really wasn’t bad.
It’s tricky right now with statements. You want to shine light on some of the good happening, but you also want to avoid downplaying all the pain and suffering. I think he did a pretty good job speaking about this, though.
Hard agree. He didnt desert anything – these folks are crazy. They are literally clinging to words out of context to find anything to criticize. It’s ridiculous.
I can see where the quote got sketch – but they are definitely making a shoulder popping reach.
If you watch CNN, MSNBC, or even Fox, all you will see is a bunch of rabid white people demanding businesses reopen. That is not the story of this pandemic. People saving lives and taking care of others is the story.
When that quote is taken out of context, it definitely sounds like he’s downplaying the pandemic, but with the overall context it makes sense and seems clear that he’s referring to the response to it (in terms of community, unity etc). But of course the tabs are going to run with the former.
I see that here too – the idiots protesting the lockdown orders are getting so much attention, but there are also people offering to run errands for total strangers if they are nervous to go to the store (or cant). We have a happy hour zoom chat every Friday with our neighborhood friends and the first thing we ask is “is everyone okay? does anyone need anything?” and then sharing if we have something that someone else needs.
People are raising money to send food to hospital workers, making masks for strangers for free, paying rent for those who need help, etc. I think that’s what Harry meant – those aspects are getting downplayed. (and to be honest, I think that’s what William meant too.)
The part about deserting the country is just pathetic at this point though.
There’s so much human kindness happening, it really does warm my heart. It’s the stories like that that I need to hear when things are feeling particularly bleak (we just had the biggest Canadian mass shooting happen in Nova Scotia on Sunday- something I NEVER thought I’d live to see). It started nearby my aunt and uncle, and I’ve spent the last 24 hours just on edge and horrified and so sad.
There’s a guy we went to high school with who has always made me nervous. Not because he’s some sort of super sketchy guy or that he’s a criminal or anything. But he’s a heavy drinker, I’m not even a full 5’2″, and he’s just BIG. Tall, broad, and VERY loud, especially when he’s drinking, and he’s a big rough-houser haha. He’s a bit of a knucklehead I would say, but once you get to know him he’s really quite nice. He’s just SO loud and it doesn’t mix well with someone shy like I am. Anyway, this guy has been making a point to post on facebook regularly that if ANYONE needs ANYTHING he’ll go get it for them. If it’s something he has, they can have some, if they need him to go to the store for them, he’ll do that. It just made me feel so happy to see something like that from someone I hadn’t really expected it from.
I’ve seen so many people making masks, making the ear savers for the masks for healthcare employees – it’s just been such a nice thing to see. It’s basically the perfect opposite to all the people who are protesting their ‘freedoms’ by endangering everyone around them.
Ugh @erinn I’m sorry the shooting was so close to home. Its terrifying.
It’s a freaky one, too. Guy spent some serious time making his vehicle look like a cop car, and while it started out planned it seemed to devolve quickly into randomized violence – really scary. I’m thankful that my family and friends are all safe, and this isn’t something we deal with often – and it really makes my heart go out to everyone in the US who sadly know too well how terrifying this is and who deal with it on a more frequent basis.
As usual a quote taken completely out of context, so blatantly. How do they get away with it and how sad that so many believe everything.
I really don’t like this attack the media thing they are doing. If there is a specific thing he is referring too then say that but how I read that is he his saying some people are lying about the COVID and I don’t like that. if he was to say something like Fox News’ and their opinion hosts are lying about the importance of the COVID then fine but this was vague and based not the topic he is speaking about it feels like its about COVID not being that bad and that is dangerous.
If that isn’t what he meant then during this time he needed to be clearer.
Taking things out of context is tabloid writing 101.
It was bound to happen. Forking vultures.
He still needed to be clearer because even that doctor was offended. He said something that was vague and that can cause hurt.
As soon as that doctor made the comment about “deserting his country in their hour of need” I immediately disregarded anything else they had to say about Harry.
When I read that supposed quote by that doctor (and we know that may not even be what was said), I always think of Professor Kate Williams who disclosed on her twitter that she has been more than once contacted by tabs for quotes about Harry and Meghan, and who are not interested if she has no intention of roasting them, but is supportive. Other well known people also replied to say they had the same experience. So when I see Dr so-and-so or Prof X said……. I wonder how many people they had to call before they could find someone who would give them what they want?
Amy … I think any time Harry or Meghan disparage the “media” you can count on the fact that they are disparaging the tabloid news. Or, he might be talking about the media’s need to glorify and glamourize all that is horrid. That makes news. Either way, he was not talking about sensible news sources because he specifically said, “It can be very worrying when you’re sitting there and the only information you are getting is from certain news channels, but then if you are on the right platforms, you can really sense this human spirit coming to the forefront.”
He is referring to the news organizations we bash daily on this site.
After all he and Meghan went through with the press it is obvious to anyone paying attention.
That is probably true and a fair assessment Pineapple. I just think right now when everyone is stressed you need to be clear as possible- if he is referring to the Daily Mail or Fox News then say it so we know what he is talking about but the way he spoke it did sound broad and like the COVID situation wasn’t as bad as it is.
Again I am sure that is not what he meant but it is how he said it. Personally i am hypersensitive to anyone potentially downplaying this or being interpreted as down playing it as I live in the global epicenter and can’t even walk in the park because it is now a hospital. I need this to be taken extremely serious.
If I thought i could comment on the trump threads without getting band for obscene language I would but he makes me so mad i can’t stand it.
@Amy, I don’t know how much clearer a person can be, if one read just a few words taken from an entire paragraph. Like how clearer did you want Harry to be? There’s no way you can understand a point if you ignore the entire context. And there’s absolutely nothing a person can say to be more clearer if the audience decides to deliberately omit an entire paragraph out and focus on a few words. Even if Harry had added another sentence for clarity, luke “what I mean by that is ABCD” the tabloids would still omit the clarification part because it doesn’t fit the narrative. The only way you can get the truth and clarity is by listening to the entire thing and draw your own conclusions. Relying on the Fail to accurately report Harry’s comments would be like trying to chase one’s own shadow.
@Becks1, no, Williams comments were not taken out of context, because his following sentences left nothing to anyone’s imagination.
@Amy – this was a 30 minute podcast. And all someone came up with to shade Harry was ONE sentence.
I had listened to all of it, because I support Team Rubicon US and was interested. Can’t even remember hearing that line. Harry was very enthusiastic about the work the organization was doing. It was all about supporting their mission, giving people hope, and celebrating the military (veterans). He mentioned at least two or three times that volunteering was such a British thing to do, which struck me as it wasn’t something I’d heard before.
There wasn’t anything to clarify because it was clear what that line meant if you listened to the whole conversation.
You can really hear Harry’s passion for the military in this conversation.
@Becks1 – on the one hand, the doctor was likely only repeating something he read or was told. I’m tempted to give him a pass as I’m sure he’s busy with much more important things, except – I agree with you, he lost me too with the remark about deserting his county in their hour of need.
Yeah if you listen to the interview he was basically saying how people up and down Britain been volunteering and he’s proud of that reaction but that some media dont focus on these feel good human stories so if you just watch eg the news it can be depressing but other platforms do show some positive stories. I get that as I am currently not watching much news myself as it’s fairly depressing.
But soon as I read the “things aren’t as bad as we are led to believe” I cringed as knew that quote would be taken on its own. His mouth is always getting him in trouble& he needs to be more succinct as his words will be used against him now he’s made enemies of the press.
Yeah I think out of context it’s not great but the context definitely clarifies meaning. I don’t think he’s that articulate. And neither is William. It always strikes me that they sort of fumble with words and have weird turns of phrase. I think Harry makes up for it with authentic passion and caring, and I’ve always been impressed by his dedication. William though always ends up looking even worse and more out of touch (because he is) when he puts his foot in mouth.
I’m not saying everyone has to be well spoken or have a gift for communication, but you would think two people in such a role since birth and having received a high end education could sound a little more polished.
I agree. They should be more well-spoken. Public speaking is part of the job they were born to do and they’ve been given the education, training, and experience needed to be excellent at it.
Being born royal and having access to the best education has nothing to do with talent, ability, aptitude, interests, or personality! Being a member of an ancient royal family or part of the aristocracy or even just born to a wealthy family presents obstacles and burdens, as well as status and advantages.
For example, Princess Elizabeth and Princess Margaret were sadly never educated because their parents were both old-fashioned, insular and ignorant in their thinking. Read the recent biography of QE-II’s younger years, Young Elizabeth: The Making of the Queen, by Kate Williams (2012). When Princess Elizabeth was 13, government officials became aware that she was woefully uneducated academically. They hurriedly set about teaching Princess Elizabeth in particular about British history and the parliamentary system of government so that she would have at least some preparation and understanding before becoming queen. Princess Margaret was left out and ignored, of course, since she was just the spare.
Their parents were too stuck in the past and not forward thinking. They did learn something about music, needlework, art, and maybe French, but their parents at first simply thought their daughters would marry well and that having an education as daughters of the king was not necessary, since they would both most likely marry high born, aristocrats. Plus, it wasn’t known that Elizabeth would inherit the throne until she was 10 (and her Uncle David abdicated).
Apparently, neither Harry nor William are particularly adept at public speaking, although I agree that Harry’s passion and enthusiasm for helping people shines through when he speaks, so that overcomes some of his awkward phrasings. Plus Harry often says things in ways that resonate, e.g., when he spoke out about the mental health counseling he received; and when he spoke impromptu about Archie’s birth, enthusiastically praising women. What he’d witnessed Meghan experience and accomplish during her pregnancy and in giving birth seemingly was a revelation for him. But not many men would have thought to give credit to women in general.
By now, you’d think Kate would be a better public speaker also, but she isn’t. She has a nice voice overall, but she hasn’t learned how to use it properly and effectively.
@tempest prognosticator said:
“… Public speaking is part of the job they were born to do…”
Not really. Many people born into royalty who inherit the throne, aren’t even fit for that task either! History as well as present day provides us with numerous examples. Seriously, why are you even thinking this way?!
You do realize that King George VI (QE-II’s father) was a stutterer (possibly triggered due to being neglected and abused by nannies when he was a baby/ toddler). He also would fly into rages, due to stress and anxiety, and likely feelings of inadequacy. His wife, Ellizabeth Bowes-Lyon was his champion, and she helped calm him, and his daughters were a constant joy. Still, neither parent were right in not educating their daughters! They also spoiled Margaret in order to compensate for her being the spare.
IOW, people are born with particular aptitudes, yes. But that doesn’t mean we are born to do jobs that our parents might expect of us or that we may be required to do simply because of the accident of birth.
Really? Feel good stories are great, look at how much coverage captain Tom got.
Whatever his private issues with the media , this just isn’t the time to talk about how the press is portraying the situation worse than it actually is.
Both William and Harry need to get a grip. Their personal negative experience with the press doesn’t mean all journalism is bad.
I agree with this! you can’t give Harry a pass on this if you attack willliam for his tone deafness.
I don’t know how the media is covering this in England, but based on that statement from the doctor they are doing a good job. Could a they focus on some feel good stories sure but I think the media is genuinely trying to get people to take it serious and give a them facts.
Harry is wrong here and its fair to call him out.
Well said, Mrs Bump.
40,931 people in the US have died over 7 weeks. It is as bad, if not worse, than media is saying. Double the numbers & we might be in the ball park & now we have idiots wandering around screaming about “opening back up”. Harry knows what he says is picked over with a fine tooth comb. It was tone deaf & if William has said it there would be blood here.
The pressure to alway be on must be v v difficult. I’m sure no harm was intended but this Virus is much worse than people seem to understand & someone w/such a large profile needs to be careful not to add to misinformation. For all the idiots outside w/o masks need to eschew any medical assistance should they fall ill since they care not for other people’s health & their recklessness should not be w/o consequence.
@Mrs. Bump said:
… Both William and Harry need to get a grip. Their personal negative experience with the press doesn’t mean all journalism is bad.”
Uh, maybe you should take your own advice! I believe that Harry and William have good reason to feel a lot paranoid about the British media! William is actually working with them since that’s what he learned to do from the example of palace p.r. and the ‘gray men,’ who helped cover up his youthful misdeeds. And fyi, Harry’s words should be interpreted within context. He was not making some big claim or pronouncement that the media is bad. He was just pointing out that there are a lot of positive stories that need to be highlighted more.
Also, both William and Harry have suffered terribly at the hands of the press, and they saw their mother suffer and then be killed partly due to being hounded by the media. Their relationship with the media has been unhealthy through no fault of their own.
Harry’s stance has been to distance himself and to try and protect his family, and to take the stand that he won’t cooperate with the quid pro quo media game. He’s not wrong in that. And it’s not as if Harry dislikes all members of the media. He’s friends with ITV’s Tom Bradby, and Harry was also friendly with some RR who covered him during his bachelor days.
The sad fact is that the media proved they could not be trusted when they began harassing Meghan, her family and friends as soon as RR got wind of M&H’s courtship. I’m sure the media’s OTT negative reaction for clicks is what made Harry very adamant about not giving the media access to his married life. Had the media been less horrible; had they acted more responsibly and less frenzied, Harry may have been more accommodating.
IMO, Meghan is only following Harry’s lead because she understands his need to protect her and Archie and why. Plus, after what Meghan went through during her pregnancy with the virulent negativity, that has also opened her eyes to the reality she and Harry are dealing with from the media and from within the royal institution.
Furthermore, clearly M&H trust fair journalism, so it’s not as if they don’t both have a sense of perspective regarding the fact that not all journalists and all media outlets are bad. Again, get a grip yourself.
@songbirds_thrive
i do have a grip, unlike yourself. Harry’s interview was not about himself and his personal problems with the media.
He choose to address the current issues related to the pandemic, and as such his words need to be taken in that context. As a public figure, both his words and that of this brother gain media attention and need to be scrutinised.
There are more and more people now calling for the lock down measures to be lifted, so to say that things are “better than we are led to believe by media” based upon a lack of feel good stories is naive and dangerous.
Feel good stories as nice as they are, are not a replacement for hard cold facts. Yes the current situation is dire and this needs to be drummed into the heads of those wishing for a premature end to the lockdown and who will latch on to any view ( no matter how misinformed) that portrays this pandemic as a media exaggeration
By “things are better”, does it mean the situation is not as dire or human acts of kindness are actually greater than being portrayed? When reading the larger statement for context though, I do feel Harry is trying to point out that people are rising up to the occasion, and these altruistic acts are not been highlighted as they should be, by the media. But I also understand how people may misconstrue his words…especially if you’re just going by a headline from a paper out for blood. It’s a fine line to walk though. I think we all have to be cautious. I also think it’s becoming clear that members of the British royal family have a problem with how they word statements. Thankfully though, Harry makes up for that with his empathy, acts of charity and service, and genuine affection for people. I’m sure Meghan will teach him a few things and help him get better at avoiding gaffes and statements that may come across as being tone-deaf.
As for the snide remark about deserting his country…lol…please, H and M have done more for the UK at this time, even from afar, than most members of that privileged family! Close to 100,000 pounds from their wedding broadcast to aid in COVID efforts, plus working with Hubb kitchen and Street Games to feed people. And they’re still carrying out acts of service in the USA. Plus, their supporters are now giving to WellChild, following Harry’s video call. These two can discover the cure for this disease and it would still not be enough to some people. Smh…
But that is BS.
We have had lots of coverage of amazing acts of heroism, of everyday charity etc.
Recently a 99 army veteran has raised 20 million pounds for the NHS by waking miles in his garden- he has been everywhere!
The negative coverage has mostly been reserved for the terrible government effort- vulnerable people not getting the help they should be, hospitals not getting equipment and Boris missing 5 emergency meetings because they had planned to work herd immunity.
Just like in the States we have had too many unnecessary deaths- should we not talk about that?
But the story of Captain Tom is the one real story of volunteering that mainstream media has been highlighting& can’t ignore that because of the huge amount of money he raised. It’s a great story& he’s a legend.
Aside from Tom there hasn’t been much of the positive stories of people chipping in mainstream media in Britain. And the media hasn’t even done a great job holding the GB government to account until this week, with some downplaying the death toll in Britain so they aren’t even getting the seriousness right.
Bubs, I honestly don’t see this as a gaffe or tone-def statement. I think the doctor’s reaction is a ludicrous one. Including her addition of his “leaving Britain”. It is faux outrage on the part of the doctor and the EXACT kind of thing Harry was referring to.
This man has donated money and time to this crisis. He was hardly saying it is not serious. He was saying the volunteerism is amazing. Do not fall for the predatory journalism.
Sweetie, I said I understand how some “may” misconstrue his statement. I pointed out that I think Harry was alluding to the fact that more coverage is not being given to altruistic acts. We all know Harry’s heart. I’ve not even listened to the podcast. I’m just going by what I read here. And I can never fall for predatory journalism…not to talk of predatory journalism by trashy British tabloids. We all love H and M…that’s why we’re here everyday rooting for them. I should listen to the podcast though…thanks for your thoughtful response.XOXO
I am so jealous of Los Angelenos (is that right? People that live in LA) that H&M&A are there. So jealous!
its just Angelinos – I think.
that makes sense, thanks!
Yes, we are Angelenos.
The best part is on Twitter, a troll made the same comment under Declassified tweet.
Declassified responded to them telling the troll that the quote was taken out of context.
Good for Declassified for setting the troll straight. As I said yesterday, it’s the tabloids and red tops that are taking his words out of context. And, like clockwork, the trolls and the obsessed ran directly to their phones and PCs, and started a torrent of abuse over the tabloids’ twisted tales.
I had a slightly heated argument with my mum who is a Piers Morgan viewer and felt that Harry has indeed “abandoned” England and “shouldn’t have gone to live in America”. She couldn’t answer my question of why the British people felt an entitlement to a person who had been born into the role other than “it’s an emotional response.” There is no logic there, but having watched him grow up people do seem to feel that they have a right over him and to give him all sorts of criticisms.
Presumably they feel that way because they pay the taxes that (in part) fund the Royal Family? Not saying that response is correct but it goes beyond just having watched the royals grow up.
@OBenson said:
“Presumably they feel that way because they pay the taxes that (in part) fund the Royal Family? Not saying that response is correct but it goes beyond just having watched the royals grow up.”
In general, individual British taxpayers pay 8 pounds per year that goes toward funding Scotland Yard security protection for the royals.
The rest of funding toward royal family expenses mainly comes from the Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall, so unless you live in those duchies, you aren’t paying anything else. But you are in fact benefiting from the tourism dollars that the royals and the institution of the British monarchy bring to Great Britain’s economy annually.
No royal ever asked to be born royal, so it’s not as easy as you seem to think. It may be a luxurious lifestyle, but such privileges enact a very heavy price. Yes, there are some royals who act entitled and insufferable, but not all of them do.
The other part of this is that the Windsors descend from ancient wealth which is related to who was stronger and well-connected enough to win the most battles. So not all of their ancestors were useless grifters. They simply seized power and held onto it, but at a huge bloody cost down through the centuries, with all the battles waged to overthrow the crown. That’s why there’s a documented line of succession which came about to lessen challenges and claims to the throne. Let’s not forget that good King Charles I (not the worst ever king) lost his head, eh! Now that’s a big price for being king.
IMO, Great Britain is lucky that they aren’t still living under the worst of the debauched, lazy, over-indulgent, spendthrift Hanovers! 😜 The Windsors are a bargain in comparison! I’m speaking of the early Hanover reigns. King George III and his wife Queen Sofia Charlotte (in the latter House of Hanover years) were fairly responsible, but most of their children were spoiled and useless.
I think it’s about time for all the whining British taxpayers to stop using their taxes as an excuse to be all up in particular royals’ personal business!!! If you aren’t happy about paying whatever pittance in taxes you pay for the royals’ security, then advocate to get rid of the monarchy, And please get over your complaints!
You aren’t any longer paying for Harry and his family’s security expenses, and unless you live in the Duchy of Cornwall or Duchy of Lancaster, you’ve never paid for any of their expenses related to public duties. Frogmore Cottage was already being renovated with funds from the Duchy of Lancaster that go into the Sovereign Grant, a portion of which are specifically designated to take care of all Crown Estate properties maintenance and renovation. Other funds from the Sovereign Grant are given to Parliament to use for the British people.
The monarchy is not transparent about all of this because they don’t want you to really know exactly how wealthy they truly are. The vast majority of their wealth stems mostly from ancient royal assets and income built from ancient wealth that accumulates via smart investments.
She can’t explain why she feels that way because it doesn’t make sense. He left because of horrid treatment from his family and the tabloids. Racist treatment. But I don’t think Piers Morgan viewers see it that way. But it is so, so telling that your Mom couldn’t explain it for herself.
It is an emotional response … those are the kinds of things the “right” are intentionally trying to ignite in people. The HBO movie called Brexit is AMAZING. Maddy it explains how people like your Mom are influenced by media. It was fascinating. So fascinating.
So good you can chat with your Mom about your differences of opinion. XO
People actually watch Piers for reasons beyond ironic hate watching?? I’m honestly perplexed people trust this man when he was accused of hacking a dead child’s phone and of fabricating damning pictures of serviceman, risking their lives.
The lack of critical thought is astounding. No offense to your mum. I have the same feeling with my family who trust Fox News.
By the way I always cringe when I hear ‘certain corners of the media.
It makes me think of ‘fake news’.
I’m getting a Pavlovian reaction.
ALL he’s talking about is the volunteers and veterans. NEVER does he discuss the government or politics. The daily fail is shitting themselves because of the upcoming court hearing which will highlight the harrasment and lies being printing by DM and likes of piss moran.
The good thing is that podcast has gone GLOBAL! The tabloids have given them free publicity and probably new listeners.
It’s clear to anyone with a brain that he was speaking out media outlets that stoke fear and hatred and anger among citizens. The Fox News and Daily Mail sections of the media. But hit dogs holler so of course the DM had something to say. They really do keep proving his point.
Sigh. Proving yet again that we need the quote, the whole quote, and nothing but the quote.
Also: dude needs to make friends with an iron.
“The media has also championed the NHS and become a key ally of doctors, nurses and key workers. They should be applauded, not vilified.”
That just is not true. The Sun has written many articles in the past demonising the NHS. One of their headlines was ‘Sack the Docs’.
The fact that he has accused Harry of ‘abandoning his country’ show he has very strong personal feelings; maybe he needs to deal with them.
No doubt, he is very intelligent and has medical knowledge. But he also has a video on YouTube called ‘the NHS is the last bastion of communism’. He clearly has some very strong ideology.
Which is why they chose him for a comment. They didn’t just pick a random doctor for an opinion. They knew what they were going to get with him.
Okay maybe I will get yelled at for this but I don’t see Harry’s comment as that different from what William said (Britain is at its best in a crisis). I think in both cases it can sound bad out of context, but with context you see what they mean albeit not phrased very well. As someone else said above, both brothers are not particularly articulate and tend to fumble and word things poorly, and I’d include Kate in that. Meghan is the only one with any skills in this area.
As for Harry deserting his country etc. it’s all BS and the people putting forth that argument are really embarrassing themselves.
He needs to stop talking. He shows how uneducated he is every time he talks.
Troll.
This is a very pro Meghan/Harry blog. Celebitchy used to be more non biased. It’s like their fan account these days. What gives?
Just because people don’t arbitrarily bash Megan and Harry on this site, it is a fansite? Perspective is a hell of a thing.
We are seeking truth rather than lies.
wow his bald spot is really growing
I’m in a group – basically a group therapy cohort – and our therapist was helping us see the same thing a few days ago. How we need to acknowledge the manipulation of the press/ news cycles. How acknowledging the terrible parts of this doesn’t mean everything is terrible. That’s what I’m hearing from Harry, too. It’s a strength to be able to recognize light even when the world seems dark.
I think he really needs to hire someone who helps him with his oratory skills because he will always be attacked by the UK tabloids and the way he said that particular sentence, even in the context of it, is messy and not clear what he wants to say. So the context is the veterans, he’s talking about that. But the he jumps somehow to the volunteering world, and is there when he inexplicably inserts a dig to the media. Of course it must have been in his mind given the statement they put out about the UK tabloids and his hate for them. But there wasn’t really necessary to mix the two things because I believe, for once, even the tabloids are reporting willingly and truthfully praising all the volunteering and good deeds this pandemic is bringing the best out of people. I do not think the tabloids were misreporting about the volunteering. I don’t think he thought well what he was saying, it comes out that he desperately wanted to call out the press and randomly inserted his rage into whatever he was talking about.
“So the context is the veterans…But then he jumps somehow to the volunteering world”.
There’s no “somehow” about it. The podcast is about Team Rubicon, which is – a volunteer organization comprised of veterans.
He was talking about “the very best of human spirit” when he made the media remark. I took it to mean there’s usually too much in (certain) media calling attention what’s petty, mean-spirited, and argumentative. If that’s what you read, the world can look like a depressing place. But look, here’s wonderful examples of people rising up to meet the need, and why not celebrate that. Yeah, he and Meghan have been victims of that kind of negative focus, but don’t believe that was his point.
He was talking rapidly and passionately with a fellow veteran in the podcast. It was a conversation, not a speech. His oratory skills are fine.
Was is necessary though, the dig at the media? We get it, you hate them by and large. And it’s absolutely understandable. But is this how it’s going to be from now on? He makes a very positive and lovely statement highlighting important issues and then has to get in a media dig? Again, I get it. But where is the use in that? Is it just a phase because it’s all still fresh?
Think about what he and Meghan were put through…vile, racist, threatening vitriol of the worst kind. The kind that eventually drove them out of England. If I were in their shoes I’d be far more expressive about my disgust with the tabloid media AND about his family who didn’t seem to care about anything other than protecting Andrew, whose crimes are far FAR worse. Harry doesn’t live in England anymore, he’s eschewed his royal duties – he can say whatever he likes about those bottom-feeders.
Be careful what you say Harry (&Meghan), they’ll spin anything around. Better to just babble nonsense like Kate (pitch the tent up, take it down, pitch it up again…)
Just before the aforementioned quote, Prince Harry cited the Guardian as source of people volunteering etc. That explains why they were initially upset enough to misrepresent his statement. There he is, one of their meal tickets plying his goods elsewhere and citing a newspaper that actually report the news based on facts. The case brought by the Duchess starts on April 24th, 2020. Maybe inspire of the bullying , there is not a settlement based on 3 factors. Fascinating read. Looking forward to this .
This twisted piece was ment to get back at Harry to call ‘certain media ‘ who give miss info about the pandamic. The tabloid, The Birtish rabloids, Sun ran the story first, felt treathend an saw a change to ‘soften’ Williams stupid remarks, by in fact saying, Harry did the same, and much worse. This is why he and Meghan as sueing these MFers: to deleberitly twist and misinterpretate.