Are you tired of the British press jumping down the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s throat over nothing? Or over old-ass news? So it is this week with the apparently brand-new information that the Sussexes will no longer work with four British tabloids: the Sun, the Daily Mail, the Mirror and the Express. These are the publications which have published the most unhinged stories about Meghan in particular for more than two years. It was clear from the lawsuits last year, just as it was additionally clear with the Sussexit announcement in January that Meghan and Harry were rejecting the “Royal Rota” way of royal-media relations. But Harry and Meghan still clarified it again Sunday night when they dropped their announcement that they would 100% refuse to deal with those four publications from here on out. Let the pearl-clutching commence!
Harry and Meghan yesterday launched an unprecedented boycott of sections of the British Press in a protest over the way their lives have been covered. In a move that stunned Buckingham Palace courtiers and prompted allegations of ‘censorship’, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex have decided to withdraw all forms of co-operation from many of the country’s most popular titles, including the Daily Mail. Last night one Palace insider said: ‘We have been left stunned. They have not taken any of our advice.’
The Duke of Sussex also did not tell his father Prince Charles before they took the action, reported The Times.
Those close to the Queen were angered that the couple chose to release details of their new media policy on the eve of her birthday – today – and at a time when Britain remains in the grip of the coronavirus crisis.
Yesterday Ian Murray, of the Society of Editors, said the decision was a ‘clear attempt to undermine certain sections of the UK media who often ask uncomfortable questions’. He added: ‘Although the duke and duchess say they support a free press, there is no escaping their actions here amount to censorship and they are setting an unfortunate example. By appearing to dictate which media they will work with and which they will ignore they, no doubt unintentionally, give succour to the rich and powerful everywhere to use their example as an excuse to attack the media when it suits them.’
He noted that many of the news outlets had produced a ‘huge amount’ of positive coverage about the couple, and warned that ‘the answer should never be to shun individual titles and their millions of readers’.
The palace’s advice was to the Sussexes was “just sit there and let all of the royal households smear you and racially abuse you forever,” so no, the Sussexes did not take the courtiers’ advice. And while it’s true that Harry and Meghan’s announcement came during a pandemic and just before the Queen’s birthday, it’s also worth noting that it came just days before a significant hearing for Meghan’s lawsuit against the Mail on Sunday, which I think was a factor as well.
As for the cries of censorship… I do not think that “censorship” means what they think it means? Harry and Meghan refusing to provide comment (denials, confirmations, quotes or interviews) to certain publications is NOT censorship. It’s literally just… media management. Public relations. Even if Harry and Meghan refused to ever speak to ANY media outlet ever again, that still wouldn’t be “censorship.” As for the “uncomfortable questions” asked by the British tabloid press… are the questions anything like “But how long will it be before the Duke and Duchess of Sussex – especially the duke – begin to experience niggling regrets?” Rebecca English at the Mail asked that question just three weeks ago. Super-uncomfortable, I agree.
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Translation: the courtiers, Ma Middleton and PWT have lost the element of surprise.
“PWT” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
They’ve all already gotten a taste of what life is like when the spigot is turned off, and they hate it. Now it’s official. Good. My favorite part of H&M’s statement is that the only communication they’ll have with those rags is through their attorneys. Piers might want to brace himself.
If Piss Morgan can be brought down with the rest of them I’ll… hell, I’ll fly all you CBers over for a street party once lockdown is over!!
If we all survive this! I hope you’re feeling better.
Poor Coronavirus never really stood a chance with Andrew’s Nemesis…..not with all the extremely juicy royal gist coming up in the next few weeks! AN is just a common tease. Poor Covid19! 😁
I call shotgun!!! I will bring popcorn, chocolate, and tasty beverages to share. 😀
I’m down for a couple of trays of enchiladas!
PWT?????
LOL, the acronym for Andrew’s Nemesis’ term “Penis With Teeth”
Extended translation:
Courtiers, etc are 1) shocked that anyone had the guts or integrity to stand up for themselves, against both the tabloids, and the family; and 2) they’re afraid the tabloids will now come after the rest of them out of revenge.
‘We have been left stunned. They have not taken any of our advice.’
Now that’s just funny.
@GuestWho I wonder of what, precisely, the advice consisted? The old never-complain-never-explain? In response to racism (funny, my autocorrect wanted to change that to ‘fascism’), ‘grin and bear it?’ ‘Stop being so sensitive’? ‘You must subjugate yourself to Her Majesty’s wishes’?
All of the above – the litany of bullies everywhere!
Hope you continue to feel better and that your dad is on the mend too.
Today I was struck by the fact that literally every time the duke and duchess of Sussex do or say anything, the royal family and their courtiers are asked for comment and they try to spin everything the Sussexes do back to them somehow, but the Sussexes NEVER release comments or statements about what the other royals are doing, and they never try to bring it all back to themselves and how will and Kate doing unprecedented zoom calls (or something like that) makes them feel shocked, overshadowed, or like Will and Kate suck and zoom calls. It really just underlines how very very desperate and jealous the RF and courtiers and the Royal reporters are. Why do they have to comment on EVERYTHING!? Why must they always interject themselves: Harry didn’t tell his dad! The queen’s birthday is coming up! They’re not listening to the advice of random palace courtiers that they haven’t spoken with in months, and don’t work for/with anymore!
If they didn’t comment on the Sussexes, who and what would they comment on? Haircuts and blowouts? H&M are the only interesting people in the family (except the rapist, and they refuse to comment on him). The Sussexes have shown again and again that they are the bigger people, and I imagine they will continue to not comment on their vile family members.
It’s just that it never goes the other way. It’s never the Sussexes making comments about something the Cambridges or the RF did, but it’s constant whenever the Sussexes do something, the RF has to release some kind of comment/statement. It’s like the RF is trying to ride the coattails of the Sussexes out from random, pathetic tabloid coverage that exists only in the U.K. and is cared about by only a small and somewhat stupid fam base, to the international levels of coverage of all types of media and across all social media that the Sussexes get. Whereas the Sussexes, who are already international superstars don’t need the RF at all to be relevant or to get them in the papers. They don’t have to interject themselves into every single RF or duchess Kate story as if to say “hey, don’t forget about us!!! We’re also Royal! We’re related to these people!” But the RF is constantly trying to remind the world “the Sussexes came from us! We made them famous! They’d be nothing without us. Even though they appear to have surpassed us, please remember that we’re connected to them!” It’s just so very pathetic and attention seeking on the part of the royals and royal media and royal courtiers.
And yet just weeks ago, BP announced they would no longer be commenting on the Sussexes. That decision sure went by the wayside fast!
^^ Yes, right @Amy Too and @JA Lowcountry Lady!!! LOL 🤣
@Amy Too said:
“… the RF is constantly trying to remind the world ‘the Sussexes came from us! We made them famous! They’d be nothing without us. Even though they appear to have surpassed us, please remember that we’re connected to them!'”
^^ OMG, this is so true, and so hilarious. 🤣 🤣
The point is: The royals need to let the Sussexes go already! Leave them be! You don’t want them to use the word, ‘royal.’ M&H flipped it back to you. They have also removed themselves from Instagram, so now PWT and Keen Katie have nothing to copy and nothing to buy bots for just to keep their KP Instagram follower count ahead of. 🤣 😜
This is just way too funny British royal family. Harry and Meghan are minding their own business and taking care of their own business. You take care of yours now and stop stepping on your own toes. Your and Willileaks’ ‘incandescent rage’ is going to get the better of you. Stop trying to glom onto Harry. Those days are over! You’re stuck with the boring Lamebridges and their poor papped offspring.
Didn’t the tabloids insist, with your bidding, that this is the future of the monarchy?
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^^ Get on now with that natural order of things, and LEAVE THE SUSSEXES ALONE!!! Call off the tabloid dogs too!!!
Why should anyone care if M&H never speak to or deal with certain British tabloids again?
They’re out of the UK, out of the royal family, and doing their own thing in LA. Did we really need to be informed of their latest decision re the British tabloids during this global pandemic? These two are self-obsessed and determined to keep their names and profiles in the press. It will be interesting to see how they fare with the American gutter press. I imagine now, without Royal protections, it will be no holds barred for US tabloid coverage. For a couple, who stated they were running away from Britain to lead a private life, they sure picked a good spot to settle!
Lol not too bright, these palace denizens.
I think that’s it in a nutshell. We talk about how underhanded and useless the courtiers and most members of the family are, but I think the bigger picture is that they just aren’t smart. None of them have made any attempt to broaden themselves with a real education (where they could have been taught to think analytically at the very least). They wallow in their perceived supremacy and don’t realize that they don’t have what it takes to succeed in the “real” world with the rest of us peasants. Dunning Kruger Effect illustrated.
Are they sure they’re not “incandescent with rage” ?
Better check that wording.
^^ Right, they musta meant to say:
‘We are stunned speechless and incandescent with rage, frothing at the mouth senseless, misty-eyed over losing Harry, and freakin’ useless without him and his gorgeous wife, neither of whom we actually appreciated when we had them here in the gilded Frogmore Cottage cage!
Oh woe is us! Lord ha’ mercy. What is to become of us without the Ginger Prince and his brilliant golden-skinned lady with dark brown eyes? We need Archie too! Waaaah’ 😰 😱 😵
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@Guest Who said:
“… they just aren’t smart. None of them have made any attempt to broaden themselves with a real education (where they could have been taught to think analytically at the very least). They wallow in their perceived supremacy and don’t realize that they don’t have what it takes to succeed in the ‘real’ world with the rest of us peasants.”
^^ Exactly! Thank you.
I mean, I’m not surprised the palace is complaining. Aren’t those all the outlets the RF leaks to? They’re probably worried people will read those sources less, meaning they have less control over the narrative.
But hey, that’s not Meghan or Harry’s problem. Good on them.
TQ is upset the couple announces it on the eve of her birthday. TQ needs to get over herself, she isn’t Jesus and the night before her birthday is not Christmas Eve.
serves her right
This👆🏼. Well said, Seraphina!
No she isn’t Jesus, but the day she rode to church smiling away with the pedophile, she might as well of been holding up a sign that read, This is my son, in whom I am well pleased. Arrogant and evil. Happy birthday, ma’am.
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H&M didn’t actually announce it, though, did they? The press decided to release information ahead of the court case of their own volition. But, gasp, it’s Old Brenda’s birthday! (She has too bloody many of them anyway.) H&M must be pinned to a stake to atone, while Rapey Andy does PR photos of cupcake packing!
Gawd, the lot of them (H&M necessarily excluded) make me retch.
If you take all the complaints leaked or released by the courtiers as any indication, if the courtiers and/or the BRF had their way, nothing would ever be released or completed. No wonder they have grudgingly accepted Catherine as their English Rose future future queen consort.
They move and react at a glacial pace and everything must be checked against everything else and heaven forbid anything happens within a week of someone’s birthday. Meghan must have seemed like a hummingbird amongst sloths when she was stuck trying to get work done among that crew.
@Guest with Cat said:
“… Meghan must have seemed like a hummingbird amongst sloths when she was stuck trying to get work done among that crew.”
^^ This! Preach!!! 👏🏻 👏 👏🏽 👏🏾
And her birthday gets celebrated on a dozen different days in all the commonwealth countries. That woman has had literally hundreds of birthdays. I think she can suck it up to let her least favorite grandson make a statement.
@Guest with cat; ‘Humingbird amongst sloths’ That, my friend is wit! I just love it!
Isn’t it amazing, that whenever the sussexes do something, be it a release, and engagement or work, they are accused of upstaging one royal or the other. Even on their own wedding anniversary, they were accused of upstaging Kate’s garden, when a photo was released, to commemorate it. No royal ever upstages the sussexes, they are treated like step children. They cry that it’s bad timing, but noone has intervened for H&M when all through this pandemic, they have been abused and trolled. Their good works don’t even get acknowledged, the way W&K’s Zoom Calls are hailed, and trumpeted. The impression given is that, they are sitting on their hands in sunny California, while’s England burns. I don’t think H&M care anymore.
@Abenta Asantewaa said:
“… Even on their own wedding anniversary, they were accused of upstaging Kate’s garden, when a photo was released, to commemorate it. No royal ever upstages the sussexes, they are treated like step children. They cry that it’s bad timing, but noone has intervened for H&M when all through this pandemic, they have been abused and trolled. Their good works don’t even get acknowledged…”
^^ Exactly! Thank you for articulating this ignored reality so well.
Seraphina — Love the snark, but I’m sure the Queen doesn’t give two figs, it’s the palace courtiers that have their knickers in a twist. And it seems as if the British royal family has a special calendar event for every day of the year because every time the Sussexes do something it is either right before or right after some event according to the courtiers. I love how the clip of the article above does come right out and say “Buckingham Palace courtiers” finally, instead of just palace or royal sources. I totally agree with Kaiser’s take on this; this is not censorship, by any definition. This dropped because of the start of the court case in my opinion. And finally, why should the Sussexes be required to tell the Queen, Charles, or William anything in advance? They are adults, not children. They are no longer part of the “working royals” but private citizens as per the decision of the Queen, Charles, and William. And, isn’t it interesting that whenever the Sussexes do not forewarn BP, CH, or KP — there are no leaks?
Amen! They don’t need to tell anybody anything, and we know it would all just get leaked at an inopportune time anyway because there never is an opportune time for these people.
These idiot courtiers just don’t get that in rejecting instead of supporting the Sussexes, they’ve doomed the institution they serve to increasing irrelevance and perhaps, ultimately, even extinction.
@JA Lowcountry lady
+1. Every word of that. H&M are no longer part of The Firm, so don’t need their input, let alone their permission.
I suspect that what the courtiers are stunned by is the assertion of H&M’s independence. They will not be returning to the Firm unless it is on their terms, and possibly not even then.
@ JA and others- Lara wrote an excellent comment (a couple actually) in yesterday’s article about H&M’s letter to the tabloids, and why it came now. She analyzed in detail what the likely purposes were (for one thing, that it was more than just H&M airing personal grievances), and why the timing of release was perfect. From this and previous comments, she’s an attorney in the US.
Definitely worth a read.
Yep! Every day is a SPECIAL DAY —- reminds me of being first married and my in-laws tried to insist we come over every weekend for dinner as they were celebrating a SPECIAL DAY. We had to come over once because it was the cat’s birthday. I kid you not.
Who cares anymore Lilibet? Karma is a bad b_ _ _ _. Thought you said you’d learned a few things after Diana’s untimely death. Apparently NOT! Yawn.
You’d be better off busting a gasket over Willileaks’ shenanigans (not to mention Pedo Andy’s scandals) than continually allowing your courtiers and the tabloid hounds to disparage your Ginger grandson, and your golden-skinned granddaughter-in-law.
By now, are you even counting your birth years anymore? We’re in the midst of a pandemic anyways and your official June b-day celebration has already been cancelled. Celebrate your real b-day privately and call your L.A. grandson and wish him well. Better yet, call OFF the dogs and the ‘gray men’!
I love to see it
It’s not all about the Queen, the courtiers are pissed that their money making days have dried up.
How many times can you leak, Cain threw a tantrum today, or Unable cancel an engagement at the last minute.
It not censorship. They can still write their unhinged racist lies. It’s just that now with no one on the Sussex team responding to anything, those “quotes” from sources close to the couple are now proven to be lies. That’s what pisses them off, they can’t pretend anymore. And neither can the family.
True, not censorship; it’s their right. Neither the royals nor the Society of Editors had anything to say when Woke Willie demanded the media respect his human rights. And, that Ian Murray fellow obviously chose to ignore one of the Society of Editor’s core values, “The commitment to high editorial standards”. I guess that tenet didn’t apply when rags like the Fail and Dim were publishing the most vile gossip, innuendo and fabricated hit pieces about the Sussexes that they could legally get away with.
Well said! What William did fit more the description of censorship than anything M&H have done.
“…clear attempt to undermine certain sections of the UK media who often make up stories and lie about the couple.” There, fixed it for you, Mr. Murray.
It was very interesting to see various journalists and editors claim censorship over this. Nowhere did Harry and Meghan say the BM weren’t allowed to write about them, they simply said their PR team was no longer entertaining communication from them for any reason. If they have anything to say, it’d be communicated by their lawyers.
Did anyone see Dan Wooten jump down Omid Scobie’s throat yesterday? Man is pressed that his sources in KP or the Palace have no access to the Sussexes anymore.
Wooten is really pressed. No more exclusives! Scobie couldn’t even be bothered though…lol
PS: Piers Morgan is losing it too…telling H and M they’re banned from GMB…as if they would ever even entertain the idea of granting an interview to Piers and his ilk!!!
Oh, Danyboy has a new pal now, he is befriending Samantha.
For real, Eyfalia??
Yes, saw an exchange between them on twitter. The other alt-right sl*ts are blossoming as Danyboy joins them. This is good. They will go down together.
I was laughing at Dan. LOL at him saying Omid was Meghan’s mouthpiece when Dan himself is KP/William’s mouthpiece
Wotten is well known to be a nasty piece of work and he knows that he has to be careful on what he reports about the Sussex’s esp if their lawyers are watching.
It’s only a matter of time before Wotten turns on the royal hands that have been feeding him the past few years.
Jesus! Just checked out his Twitter and he has just gone overboard with rage.
Lol. Is he incandescent with rage?
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Think the royals are now going to have to offer up other coin (I.e., each other) to placate the RR, instead of throwing the Sussexes under the bus to protect their sorry asses.
Married-ins are usually the ones to pay the piper so buckle up Kate.
As a former journalist, they know this isn’t censorship but they are hoping by using that word their readership doesn’t understand its meaning.
The biggie here, if I’m understanding this right, is that it cuts off their sources so in future lawsuits they cannot claim (under British law, which is different than US journalism law) they had a reasonable expectation of truth from their sources.
This is an important difference. Because (as I understand it from the UK lawyers who have posted here) if the tabs had a source that they could claim they had an expectation of knowledge from (such as a courtier), they could evade a legal punishment. For example, “we talked to a courtier and he said Meghan was putting in yoga studio” there is an expectation of truth that protects the tabloid.
Vs. in the US, if you have a source, claiming that you had an expectation of knowledge from that source that does nothing for a lawsuit against you. The burden of it still rests upon the newspaper and their fact-checking.
That is not really a true representation of how it works in the USA. The burden is on the person suing to prove (1) the statement was false, but ALSO (2) that the false statement was made maliciously or with no regard to whether it’s true or not. So if a writer had an expectation of knowledge from an inside source, that would negate the “disregard for truth or falsity” element, and the plaintiff would lose.
Also, you can’t sue over satire or “opinion” (example, it is my opinion that William and Kate are lazy, unintelligent people and a waste of British tax dollars).
Actually you can prove it false and still lose your lawsuit in the US – that’s a common fallacy that truth protects you.
Do we want to dip into US journalism law?
– if you smear someone about having a STD, whether true or false, is grounds for you to win a lawsuit;
– if you smear someone and write about deviance, true or false, can be grounds;
– if you accuse someone of insanity, grounds for a lawsuit;
– the determination here on what can be told about a person is dependent upon if they are a public person (which H&K still met that burden under US law despite stepping down from duties) or if they are private (even John Smith can become a public person if they have been in a something say like a well-publicized plane crash). What can be written about a public person is far wider than what can be written about a private one. I think this is where UK and US law seems to differ the most.
– satire and comedy can be get away with it but not always. This areas can blur into copyright (such as taking a well-known logo and satirizing it).
So I mean we can go on and on here, but the fact is that sources are far more protected in the US AND legit newspapers will refuse to reveal them, but it has nothing to do with the lawsuit being filed, won, or lost, or the standing of that source.
I know nothing about UK law – and was going by the posts made about sources back when this first came up.
I read an interesting article yesterday about when the Sun ran an front page story blaming Meghan for the parking lot nonsense. It was totally fake and when Meghan filed a complaint, the paper was compelled to run a small correction on page two. There is no incentive for the tabs to stop printing BS.
“Oh the trauma, the drama,” and don’t you know it’s all about us. 🙂 God help anyone who would seek a better life. Heh. Heh.
Let them stay stunned till Kingdom come. My goodness, that family is annoying. Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas. I hope they will come to regret getting into bed with the British media. They will have to feed that ravenous beast for the rest of their lives. Too bad that collectively they are as dull as dishwater.
Lol. The screaming and pearl clutching was totally hilarious.
Yeah, and be prepared for covid 19 to become the trendy new thing for people to deflect with whenever abusive or deplorable fuckery is addressed now, like we’re seeing with Meghan Markle already (and will likely see with others as well).
Once again, the bullies (Daily Fail, the palace…) play the victim card!!! Not working!!!
“By appearing to dictate which media they will work with and which they will ignore they, no doubt unintentionally, give succour to the rich and powerful everywhere to use their example as an excuse to attack the media when it suits them”
Wait, wait. What? Like, Drumpf isn’t a better target for this kind of argument?!
It’s not an attack, either.
And they can still write whatever they like but everyone will know it has no legitimacy.
Boohoo, the tabloids won’t get a press release.
Of course they’re salty and mad. But the Sussexes don’t work for them anymore. They don’t need to run press management by them. If Charles is funding them and he’s pissed then let father and son talk about it. Everyone else, including William needs to shut up because they. don’t. work. for. the. BRF. anymore.
On that one year review, the Sussexes will have A LOT leverage.
How is that censorship? The Sussexes, based on their statement, did not say that they will suppress and prohibit the 4 tabloids from publishing news they want to publish about them. They are not preventing the tabloids from circulating their message (whether true or not). The Sussexes also do not intend to supervise and control the information and ideas these 4 tabloids want to circulate among their readers. They are free to say what they want to say even if it’s fake news . But given all these, they just won’t engage with these tabloids anymore . Fair enough.
They can write Katie, Wills and all the other members, what’s the big deal?
Seems like not wanting to deal with the rota could have been a deal breaker as part of Sussexit and probably part of why people like Charles didn’t risk showing public support for his son whilst Harry was at odds with the press. Shows that the rota and the BRF have a very symbiotic relationship.
Ps I do think Harry& Meghan ignored palace advice- I think that advice would have been to play nice with the press, do hospital photocall etc. In some ways I agree might have made life easier for Meghan who would always get a harder time than other royal brides. But given chaos the Fail caused just before the wedding& what is being unveiled now through the case, let alone any other issues both might have had with the press, can understand why Harry (and think it is Harry led), refused.
Nope. Had she done the hospital photocall, the tabloids would have screeched, “Who does Meghan think she is? Does she think her 7th in line child is the heir? It’s not even an HRH!” (The it was not a typo on my part–we’ve seen how racist the media can be). There were already intonations of that on the DM/royal message boards before the birth of Archie–lots of crowing over how Meghan was apparently upset that her kid wouldn’t be HRH. The way the tabloids set it up, Meghan would always be wrong, no matter what she did. We saw that w/the stories of Beatrice’s wedding. They go, they’re crap. They stay away, they’re crap. That’s the game the Sussexes refuse to play anymore. Good on them for excaping that abusive situation and that toxic family!
Spot on, lanne.
Exactly @Ianne! Thank you for expressing this truth so well. The Sussexes stand on integrity. Neither Meghan nor Harry were ever interested in doing any pap hospital steps walk, ever. Nor did Harry ever plan for his son to be known as an HRH Prince, and Meghan agreed because she understands why Harry feels this way. She didn’t marry Harry because he’s a royal prince. She understood from the beginning that he never wanted any of his offspring to grow up the way he did.
The unreasonably vile and abusive way Meghan was treated throughout her pregnancy, and then the tabs and RR had the gall to expect the Sussexes to offer up their son and provide pbp accounts of his birth with delivery room pics! WAS. NOT. EVER. HAPPENING!
I think a big part of it (along with the blatant classism, xenophobia, straight out racism and misogyny) is the fact that she didn’t do the ‘safe’ things. Like cutting ribbons and writing open letters. She wanted to get stuck in and write cookbooks with ethnic working-class women and actively be involved and it was just too much for the tabloid readership.
I also think the press just put her in this progressive ‘femi-nazi’ role against Kate’s pure virginal ‘English rose’ persona, which was hugely profitable and no amount of appeasement would have quenched these vultures thirst for more blood.
100% true, Ruby-Woo.
@Ruby_Woo said:
“… she didn’t do the ‘safe’ things. Like cutting ribbons and writing open letters…”
I get your point, but let’s not forget that Meghan did cut more than a few ribbons and dedicate plaques, etc. She just did everything with a fresh, hands-on, well-studied in advance approach. She always came prepared and she made everything seem effortless and natural. Together, she and Harry charmed all age groups and were popular with everyone they met. The crowds of people who came out to greet them were always large and enthusiastic.
Plus, as far as open letters go, I cite Meghan as setting that trend. If it isn’t a new thing among royals, she most certainly made it extremely popular. Her open letters to a number of her charities set off a flurry of royals writing open letters to charities. So much so, I guess you forgot that Meghan started the trend. 😉
Yeah, I take your point. I should have ‘stick to safe jobs’. She did a lot of regular things and she did them really well (much better than the others). But the press had already painted her as a ‘progressive’. They would even bring up her comments about Trump (which were 100% true) and her UN speech where she states she’s a feminist.
The fact that she did more hands-on work with actual results e.g. the smart set wardrobe or community hubb cookbook, rubbed those racists up the wrong way. They even wrote articles trying to link her community hub to terrorism. From the top of my head I can name several projects, tours, visits she did. Which I can’t for the others.
She was too active and too successful. I think for me all this highlights is that you can be a lot more productive and do a lot more good OUTSIDE the RF than in. The RF’s whole brand is being bland.
And to be honest, I didn’t even know Meghan started that trend.
The Palace advice they ignored:
-Never outshine Will and Kate,
-Plant yourself in a seat and don’t do anything,
-Do the tabloid walk with your baby just after pushing one out at a hospital,
-Lay down in the middle of the road and let Will run a bus over you.
^^ Yep. And this:
Maintain a stiff-upper-lip at all times, even while being dragged and trashed during your pregnancy.
Don’t complain, don’t explain, and don’t expect human kindness; forget about receiving any vocal support against the tabloids from any of your in-laws. In fact, expect the opposite!
Kowtow to the media, and to the ‘gray men’ at all times, even though you’re smarter than them and the entire royal family put together.
I laughed out loud where it said the tabloids produced a “huge amount of positive coverage of the couple”. Where and when? Anyone???? This move will hurt them financially. That’s all this is about. Good for the Sussexes for taking the bull by the horns.
Exactly, Chrissy, PLUS they don’t ask for positive coverage, they ask for fair, factual coverage.
So right @Chrissy. That lazy lie they keep trotting out has never worked for anyone with openminded common sense. It’s getting so old and tired by now. They are counting on a lot of people being clueless fools among the general populace, who won’t know the difference, won’t do any research, and will accept whatever lies that are spewed, as usual.
Question, everybody: how bad is the National Enquirer when compared with the Wail, Dumb, Excess etc? And do you think they will go for the Sussexes in the same way, or print glowing coverage? What about Fox and other Trumpian outlets?
The US tabloids are just as bad as the British ones. The difference is, they are not treated as legit news sources. ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, none of them will cite stories by the tabloids in their reporting, nor do they take tabloid stories without any question, the way British media does. Even the BBC will take a tabloid story as fact. All those ITV shows about Meghan’s family, not once did any reporter question the Markle’s motives, look into their claims. They were just reported as facts. No scrutiny whatsoever. That’s the problem with British media
The National Enquirer has well since already been spewing outlandish nonsense about M&H and all of the royals. Space alien level nonsense. 😵
I’m sure the Enquirer will go after them, but people here ignore the Enquirer, generally speaking. I couldn’t name you one reporter from them. You would certainly never see a reporter from the Enquirer on Good Morning America or something. In Touch and Life and Style or whatever are a bit murkier, because they package themselves more like People, so it can be deceptive (as in the line between tabloid and just celebrity gossip mag like People is a bit blurred) but I don’t think anyone takes them seriously.
And there’s also obviously no access requirement, which I think is the biggest difference. H&M wouldn’t have to let the Enquirer accompany them on all their work events.
I don’t think anyone takes Lies & Style or Out of Touch terribly seriously, and Some People is pretty obviously just recycling press releases/pr statements.
The Enquirer is TMZ (literally) and although they do sometimes get things right, they’re not respected or considered a legit source.
Fox News takes Daily Mail hit pieces and condenses them and repackages them as legitimate royal news in their little news bites that I see on Apple News app. I am not particularly savvy on how Fox distributes its news outside of that app, but that’s how it goes out to me as an iPad user. Ages ago when I had this iPad set up I just let all the major news outlets feed news into my app. Daily Mail and Business Times articles got on there once I started seeking out news on Harry and Meghan.
No one takes American tabloids seriously. The National Enquirer has been viewed as a joke for years and people assume the stories are mostly lies. And now with the connection to dump and the fact that stories were hidden to protect him, there is even less credibility.
I’ve always viewed the DM as another National Enquirer, a gossip rag, nothing more. I was honestly shocked to discover here yesterday or the day before that the DM is the biggest selling newspaper in the world. It seems like such a rag. I really didn’t want to believe it, but after research found much to my disgust it is.
I also found out that Britain has 12 daily and 11 Sunday newspapers. Harry and Meghan cut response to 1/3 of the papers available to the masses, nevermind the Sunday choices. Still not censorship.
The Enquirer is the toilet paper/cat box liner of tabloids in the US and Canada. It’s scurrilous, incorrect gossip and the only people who read are are mouth breathers and people who have to sound out words as they read. Its parent company, AMI, got caught doing catch and kills on T-Rump’s hush money payments to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal. CEO David Pecker and chief content officer Dylan Howard were then granted witness immunity in exchange for their testimony regarding said payments made by T-Rump’s lawyer, Michael Cohen, in an attempt to influence the 2016 presidential election. Altogether, pretty sleazy.
Our US tabloids aren’t necessarily so mean and out to destroy anyone, they’re more just sensational and crazy. They’d be likely to report that “Meghan is pregnant with triplets after taking new age herbal fertility treatment” or “Harry and Meghan plan star studded Christmas party! See who’s on the guest list!” not so much “Evil Meghan has employed 40 different undocumented migrant workers, who might be victims of human trafficking, as maids and makes every one of them curtesy to her and call her Your Royal Highness.” Or “Meghan and Harry splash out millions on celebrity Christmas party for elite connections only in an attempt to bolster their social status and climb ever higher! See who didnt make the cut! Longtime, loyal friends of Meghan from high school and college snubbed as duchess slashes old friendships to make room for splashier connections!”
The US tabloids are seen as being 100% pure entertainment, not news, and people treat them as being sensationalized fan fiction. Whereas the Daily Mail and U.K. tabloids seem to be respected on some kind of national level in the U.K. and their reporters are seen as actual journalists. We would consider writers of the US tabloids to be like paparazzi, not real journalists or reporters. They never go deep with their reporting, and it doesn’t seem to have as negative a spin as the Daily Mail. We might get “Prince Harry seen partying in Las Vegas: friends are worried: will the troubled prince go to rehab?” as opposed to “Prince Harry a drug addict! Spending millions in tax payer dollars on high end designer drugs! Putting royal protection officers at risk as they’re forced to accompany him on drug runs! Using his international influence and royal connections to pay off judges. Will the queen be pushed into an early grave due to Prince’a callous antics!?”
It’s so predictable by now. H&M do something, the press freaks out, and someone gets a quote about how the royal family is “shocked” or “incandescent with rage” lol.
I’m sure the family is ticked about this, mainly bc the more H&M push back against the tabloids, the more it makes people think “why do the others cooperate?”
Also, I really don’t think the queen cares that this was around her birthday. Louis was born shortly after her birthday, was that stealing her thunder?? Heck Will and Kate got married a week after her birthday, was that stealing it????
Do these people realise that they aren’t working Royals anymore? They don’t give a toss to what the Palace thinks.
And the only reason why the Palace would be ‘incandescent with rage’ over this is, is if they are worried that Meghan is definitely going to have her day in court and dirt is going to come out about courtiers and even the RF having their hand in whipping up this hate.
“…many of the country’s most popular titles, including the Daily Mail.”
– they really are a self-parady.
Briefly delurking to say, I think everyone is so angry at H&M because of copyrighting. As in any information about their foundation, personal pictures of themselves, or Archie cannot be published by these four papers anymore. That is a lot of lost revenue. And the Tabloids don’t have excuse of well we didn’t know that we could’nt use this information, or these images because it’s all in writing.
@Guest
Very good point, which hasn’t had the attention it deserves.
So does that mean that those 4 papers will never be able to publish any photos of them again? Or they will have to buy them from another publication?
They can purchase the paparazzi photos. Any photos have to be either sold to them, or they have to get permission to publish from the copyright owner (person who took the photo). Which H&M already told them not to bother asking for. Also I am curious to see if another publication sells something to the banned four, do they then join them in losing access?
I see. So I’m sure they’ll still use photos and write BS stories, but now they’ll have to pay the piper. Good for them.
It will be interesting to see how the British public will feel about supporting an institution full of toxic people as coronavirus and Brexit wreak havoc. If I were in the RF, I would be doing everything I could to justify my existence–think about how I could be of service to the country. Bad times are here, and good times are a long way off for the UK. How will the Brits feel seeing Pedo Andy waving from the balcony, or even walking Beatrice down the aisle in a lavish wedding 6 months from now? The Cambridges can push their kids into the public, but how long can they sit in Kensington palance and do nothing? They better start singing for their supper, forget about the Sussexes, and get on with their own business. Times are a changing.
Yup. Everything looks different now. We may also be struggling with the effects of a no-deal Brexit next year.
I feel so sorry for the Cambridge children. They’re innocents in all of this but I’ve already seen narratives built around them by the Mail and its readers. People either hate and resent them for their privilege or project that weird sort of creepy proprietary behavior that was turned ultimately against Harry and causes ordinary people to take everything Harry does as personally affecting them.
If it wasn’t apparent before, it certainly is now as to why Harry was adamant to Jane Goodall that Archie was going to be raised out of that environment. Unfortunately, Archie is ridiculously cute, so they will have to endure a bit of squee for another couple of years, but then I do tbink the rabid curiosity and interest will fade and Archie can grow up relatively low key if he wishes. With any luck, he can be a normal kid who goes on to higher education with just a modicum of fanfare like Angelina’s son did.
With any luck, the monarchy will fade into complete irrelevance and Charlotte, Louis and even George may get to have normal, albeit privileged teenage lives. Otherwise, it is clear that William has done some terrible deals with various devils that will ensure yet another generation is raised in maximum toxicity and dysfunction under the unforgiving glare and vitriol of the most judgmental and outspoken members of British society. And they will find they can count on no protection from their family, unless of course they are a direct heir, and even then, poor George may still find that his life is not really his own but was sold to the tabloids to protect his father’s secrets.
I think when it became apparent to Harry that William was going to play ball with the press and not join Harry in solidarity on his battle against the forces he believes destroyed their mother, that is when the rift was firmly cemented. It must have felt like a huge betrayal, or at least a bewildering one. And STILL Harry is the one who mustered up a genuine smile for his brother and sister-in-law at their last public appearance together.
that’ s an excellent point, Guest with Cat. Of all the people in the world, Prince William knows about how destructive tabloids are. The fact that he has seemingly sided with them over his own brother is beyond comprehension to me, especially considering the possible consequences to his own children. If William is that much of a narcissist, then he’s as bad as Toxic Tom. Meaning he will sell out his own children for his own purposes. Poor Charlotte (who I think will suffer the most, unless she can pull an Anne somehow). Poor Cambridge kids. I have tried to be as sympathetic toward Kate here, many times, but if she’s willing to let her husband sell out her own kids just to wear some tiaras and get curtsied too, then she sucks as well. She’s the worst kind of a nothing and a nobody if she lets history repeat itself with her own children. Maybe she’s just as narcissistic as he is, and doesn’t care what happens to her children, so long as everything looks above board.
Seriously, if William really cared about his own family and not just himself, he ought to just come out and say he had an affair with Rose or with whomever. The public will forgive him–all he has to do is hold a press conference with Kate holding his hand while he pretends to dab tears from his eyes. The tabloid readers will eat that shit up. Then he releases whatever hold they have over him. Because big secrets can’t be kept anymore, in the social media age. Someone’s going to talk.
William will throw anyone under the bus to save his reputation. His father was the bad husband who drove his mother to tears, the bad dad who choose to go to the opera rather than stay with his injured son and wife in the hospital. William came to age under calls to skip a generation (Charles) and go straight to Good William the Pure as the country’s preferred King. So god forbid Wills be ANYTHING like his father. Wills can’t handle negative press because he will have to forge a completely new identity and the one he’s been coasting on–the Anti-Charles–has worked pretty good for him.
Ianne – you obviously know nothing about how things work in Britain or how the Royal Family is perceived in there. They are held in the highest esteem by the majority of the British public for their dedication to public service. Every year the Royal Family carries out 2,000 official engagements between them. Meghan was welcomed into the Royal Family and by the British public, given a $32,000,000 wedding, gifted a house which was renovated to her specifications at a cost of $3,800,000 by the British taxpayer, she spent $1,000,000 on clothes her first year; the dress she wore for her first outing with the Queen cost $18,000. These expensed were covered by her father-in-law, Prince Charles. She and Harry were given every consideration. When they announced they didn’t want to live in the 20 room apartment given to them at Kensington Palace, they were given Frogmore “Cottage” so they could be away from the royal fishbowl. They didn’t want to have their official office at Kensington Palace and so were given one at Buckingham Palace, again funded by Prince Charles. They were given the staff they requested, and the overseas tours they requested. And after all this, she stayed in the family for 16 months before absconding with Harry for the more glitzy terrain of Hollywood in search of a more “private” live. And, as it turns out, she retained her Hollywood agent and PR firm throughout her time in the royal family. Nobody objected to them leaving if that’s what they wanted. It was their graceless, ill-mannered way of going about it that caused offense to the British public and the Royal Family. If they have bad press they have no-one but themselves to blame.
Censorship is shutting down legit stories you don’t want to see the light of day. Rose who?
What I am taking from this is that the head of the Society of *Editors*
– does not understand the meaning of the word “censorship”
– does not know how to/care to use a dictionary
– is looking for some cheap publicity.
Given the first two points, he is best off keeping a low profile.
The ignorance of people who are supposed to know these things is staggering, and apparently they do not care who sees it.
Idk they went for a pap walk the only a day or so before this was released. I’d say all they’ve done is replace an intrusive tabloids from the UK for the more friendly ones from the US. The US press rarely caught him in Candids when he was in North America even dating her or in the UK. He kept his head down. Now we’re getting them doing walk a outs in LA? 🤔
They did not go on a pap walk. They went out delivering meals and food parcels to vulnerable people.
As I am sure you are aware.
Nope two completely different days, one was indeed feeding the needy, the other was a definite pap walk since they were supposedly looking at homes. Two different outfits and all. Again the US gossip tabs are just more favourably than the UK. Just look up TMZ, they reported on both instances. Again all they did was trade an mean and nasty UK tabs for more friendly US.
We’ve gotten plenty of pap shots of them in the UK. And yeah dealing with paps in the US >>>>>>>>> dealing with BM tabloids. Great trade off imo.
The “pap walk” where they were making deliveries for Project Angel Food or the one when they were walking their dogs?
I think the OP is referring to the dog walking pics. The trolls and haters are promoting the story that these are staged pap photos. Not true, but that never stopped them from spreading and raging on about their own stupid lies. There is a Twitter TL about 3 miles long full of disgusting lies and hate rants that these nutters feed like yeast starter every hour of every day. They literally cannot curb their obsession with the Sussexes. I’d love to see one of the Fail’s “expert” psychiatrists analyze that mess.
It’s not even worth engaging with these trolls. They should go back under their bridge (aka the Daily Fail comments).
More twitter fan fiction.
So they’re not allowed to walk their dogs now? The paps are staked out constantly and have no doubt ID’d their vehicle so they’re followed. No, it’s not a “pap walk”, it’s getting out of the house to stretch their legs and entertain the pooches. Nothing more.
I, too, go for regular pap strolls, as my doggo needs walking daily.
Bye troll.
Rtms is correct. Their move to Hollywood and plans to monetize their royal connections were unfortunately foiled by the current pandemic. It is therefore very important for them to keep their names to the forefront of the media lest they become irrelevant before they can start capitalizing on their names. How come there are photos of them delivering meals to the needy? Did there happen to be photographers hanging around on the streets in the midst of the pandemic? Likewise, who cares if they are no longer going to “co-operate” with 4 British tabloids? They no longer live in Britain or are a part of the Royal Family.
When did they Ever co-operate with these papers? These are the tabloids they have been complained about from the beginning. Do we really care about this while a pandemic rages? This pair are self obsessed. Expect to see more of this nonsense in the weeks to come. It is all-important to their future earnings that they continue to maintain a high profile in these unfortunate times.
Someone should at least Google “censorship” 😂 Would that too be “unprecedented”? I guess it’s on brand for tabloids.
It’s amazing how they are so outraged about this and cry censorship when they remain silent on the media blackout about William’s affair and none have even admitted that a blackout existed. That is the scarier censorship in my opinion because outside of social media the general public would never have known that the UK media, including mainstream entities like the BBC, were complicit in hiding William’s peccadillos. The question to be asked is what else to the UK media hide to protect certain royals?
Yes, Nic919. Self-censorship is the real danger here.
I’ve said before I think the RR tabloids must know something very very damaging about a member or members of the RF. Because each household could still have relationships and leak to favourite tabloids or broadsheets *without* a royal rota.
@Nic919
We should ask Andrew that 😊
These are the same courtiers that are fine with RR’s saying the monarchy is a slow moving monolith that doesn’t like change. You can’t make this stuff up.
The palace is salty & “stunned”. Full stop.
I was reading an old article on here on when Meghan and Harry were dating and one of the articles was on how they were close to announcing their engagement. One commenter on here was saying how they would announce it already but no one in the RF wanted this marriage to happen. They said Harry wasn’t listening to anyone in the RF regarding Meghan. A lot of people were saying this person didn’t know what they were talking about, turns out they did.
Yeah I saw old DM comments from when the engagement was announced before the full on smear campaign started and even they called it.
Here’s what I get from this:
– the royal rotten don’t understand what censorship is, no one is obligated to talk to media
– the rotten rota are facing a bunch of lawsuits right now that could hit them hard in the wallet and their revenues are down because they don’t have access to H&M
– both the royal family and the rotten rota are TERRIFIED about what is coming in H&M’s lawsuits, because they know settlements will be difficult to achieve without the media involved admitting culpability; this means a trial, with evidence, and this means there will be LOTS more receipts coming after those text messages
Yeesh, why is every move seen as controversial, not everyone plans things around their FORIEGN grandmother IN LAW’s birthday. The things the nasty DM commenters are saying about Meghan hurting the queen is unreal.
Stay stunned, my friend…
All those RRs and publications are mad, they sided with the wrong team. They decided from day one to collude with other mediocre royals to trash Meghan, before even realising that she was the golden goose. They didn’t expect harry to marry Meghan, and that they would become the number one star couple not just in that family but in the world. If only they had atleast been fair, they would have still had access to them. Those publications deserve the Cambridge’s, good luck to them trying to make some coin off of them, I can’t imagine that many people love clicking on stories about how perfect they are. Those RRs only have themselves to blame.
Rebecca English’s word choice was purposeful.
This institution’s days are numbered! All they had going for them was the image of unity and family now they are fully exposed as a backstabbing toxic snakes. I mean in a post brexit Britain where unemployment and living costs are high, I don’t see them getting much support from the public past 2021!
Even the queen no longer has the same effect on people after that dreadful car ride to church smiling with her pedo son after his buddy just died(murdered)!! Just go to Twitter and read the posts about her birthday #😂
They’re such drama queens over there. I really would love to see the exact advice the Sussexes got. Can’t wait to see what dumbass, suggestions were offered. Most probably involved having tea and house tours with that rabid, back stabbing press pack. Can just see Dan Wooten sweating all over the furniture, gross. I think they ( the press), wanted Meghan to give them insider access not just to her life, but to her Hollywood friends lives as well. Imagine what day to day life there must have be like if you’re called a supporter of drought and murder for eating an avocado. It’s like a bizarro hostage film.
Minority opinion here , but I think it was a slightly clumsy move for them to announce this as Britain is reeling under Covid-19, and the Queen’s birthday. But the press and RF twist anything and everything M&H do anyway, so I guess it doesn’t matter much!
They didn’t announce it if that helps. Their lawyers sent the letter to the paper, the paper then printed it.
I just keep coming back to one central fact:
THESE PEOPLE EFFING KILLED HIS MOTHER.
I don’t believe the “Firm” orchestrated Diana’s death but they were complicit in the media’s abuse of her and the fact that she was hunted like an animal.
Diana died because she refused to have a Royal Protection officer with her on the night of the crash. Instead, there was only Dodi Fayed’s personal bodyguard in the car. Dodi’s driver was well over the drink limit and was speeding at 100 miles per hour when the car entered the Alma tunnel in Paris, where he subsequently lost control of the vehicle and crashed into a pillar. None of the occupants were wearing seat belts except for the bodyguard, Trevor Rees, and he was the only one who survived the crash. Had Diana agreed to have a Scotland Yard Royal Protection officer with her the tragedy would not have happened. There is no way he would have allowed a driver who had been drinking in the vehicle – they would have tested him – and he would have insisted all wore seat belts and the driver maintained a safe speed. The windows of the car they were traveling in were tinted which would have made it impossible for the paparazzi to take photos of her, so there was no need for the car to be speeding.
The reason Diana was ” hunted like an animal” was that she refused Royal protection which was offered by the Royal family. She also left herself open to press intrusion when she became a private citizen because, as is well documented, she often called the newspaper editors in advance to alert them to her engagements and whereabouts. She used the press when it suited her and it became a double-edged sword.
These palace sources are evil and anti-christian in my view. All this monarchy situation is a man-made side. Do people really believe they are going to enter God’s kingdom with the shit they spew against all God’s other children. Mental illness is a terrible thing for the Brits and the tabloids. I think a lot of other high profile/rich people are going to take notice and cut them off at the knees. That ‘s what they angry about. Everybody knows when Harry and Meghan filed their lawsuits-pandemic or no pandemic this thing is going to court this Friday. I still say those tabloids are setting themselves to be sued on a constant basis with their coverages of the Sussexes and others. For the life of me, why print something that is a lie which can be proven to be a lie-STUCK ON STUPID11111
Someone compiled audio and video of Prince Harry speaking of his distaste of the dishonest media. This move is not a surprise and although the royal family has it’s fair share of disfunction, the courtiers did not make a statement. In the manner of Harry not misspeaking about the virus. Both are untruths. The fact is the trial starts in two days and daily Fail is in a tizzy.