Today is the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s second wedding anniversary. I did a big photo review yesterday, solely of wedding photos of just Harry and Meghan. But there were so many other storylines and conspiracies from that day! One of my absolute favorite conspiracies was “did Duchess Kate wear white to Meghan’s wedding?” There was a massive argument between British peeps and American peeps about whether weddings guests are allowed to wear white. Here in America, no wedding guest should wear white. Only the bride gets to wear white. But some British peeps argued that across the pond, it’s no big deal. Remember the fights we had?
Anyway, Kate wore a McQueen coatdress to the Sussexes’ wedding, and she paired it with a new Philip Treacy hat which was absolutely yellow. On the day of the wedding, royal reporters claimed that Kate’s ensemble (hat and coat) was “primrose yellow” and that Kate had ordered a new bespoke McQueen coat which was nearly identical to the one she wore to Charlotte’s 2015 christening – the christening coat was off-white, they argued, and the Sussex wedding coat was primrose yellow. Other eagle-eyed royal-fashion peeps claimed that Kate simply rewore the 2015 christening coat and that Kate really did wear white to another woman’s wedding. Well, hello controversy my old friend, the Daily Mirror has this story today:
The bride should always been the centre of attention at any wedding, and all eyes should be on that stunning white dress from start to finish. But unfortunately this isn’t always the case when your guest list includes some of the most famous people in the world – including celebrities, royals and sporting legends. While we’re sure she didn’t mind, this was the situation Meghan Markle was in as she married Prince Harry at St George’s Chapel two years ago today – something her future sister-in-law the Duchess of Cambridge would have been very aware of.
So, when planning her outfit for the special day Kate made a very thoughtful decision. In order not to steal any of the limelight and ensure all the fashion focus was on Meghan, Kate opted to rewear an old outfit for the day. She wore her Alexander McQueen tailored coat, and it was the fourth time we’ve seen her in it. Most famously, she wore it to Princess Charlotte’s christening in July 2015.
Rewearing an old outfit means fashion fans and the media can’t get too excited about what she’s wearing as they’ve already seen and analysed it before. And this isn’t the first time Kate has done this, and she actually rarely wears a new outfit to a wedding, always recycling an old dress or coat.
So… which is it? Did Kate rewear an old McQueen coat, which was off-white/cream in 2015? Or did she order a new McQueen coat in the same bespoke style in a very pale shade of yellow, which read as off-white in daylight? We still don’t know. It’s still a big royal mystery, as far as I’m concerned. Also a mystery: what really went down between Kate and Meghan at the pre-wedding fitting for Princess Charlotte? That was the incident where “Meghan made Kate cry,” although no one has ever been clear on what actually happened. Enduring Royal Mysteries…
Photos courtesy of Avalon Red.
It was off-white.
Yup, white or off white.
Yep, it’s clear to me that’s off white and the same MQ. You can see it well when it’s against Charlotte’s dress.
Whatever the colour, look on the bright side. She got to sit next to Pervy Andrew. That’ll teach her.
Elements of the hat may be closer to yellow, but her dress is cream.
Is the “no white/cream” thing stronger in the American mind, though? I always wonder about cultural differences. . . .
Otherwise. . . damn.
Off white,primrose yellow whatever the case i think the point is ,it was enough for people to question the colour. It seemed very petty,look at that ruby colour she wore to Eugenes wedding just months later. Completely unnecessary i dont recall her wearing something that questionable to anyone elses wedding.
Right, this is exactly the point IMO. If it is a different coat, then it’s even worse, because it was a very calculated move to wear something that close to white. So I don’t know why the Kate fans are so insistent that it was new. It makes Kate look worse.
If it was a rewear, at least there’s a defense of “she was post partum and this fit.”
@Noki
Exactly. Didn’t Oprah completely change her dress last minute because in her last fitting she noticed her dress looked too close to white? —that’s what someone who wants to be considerate of not taking attention away from the bride does.
Also it’s really rich they think (or Kate thinks) Kate could pull that kind of attention away from Meghan lol! There were many celebrities there wearing extravagant things, and Meghan chose to keep it simple. I doubt she would have cared if Kate had worn another tired version of a coat-dress or bespoke McQueen for the billionth time. But Kate wearing a dress that was so close to white or off-white is kinda passive aggressive IMO, takes more “attention” away from a bride than any other colour and I doubt she didn’t think that through when she chose to wear this.
Yeah but eugenie’s wedding was in the fall and Meghan’s was in spring
Kate was being passive aggressive with the colour choice. She had plenty of other blue outfits or other colours that wouldn’t have passed as white.
The outfit itself was new. Someone on a blog did a close up of the sleeves and compared it to the christening outfit and there were more buttons on this one and there were other differences.
The way this article tries to pretend that Kate was being thoughtful is pretty pathetic though. She made a lot of faces while the black archbishop was giving his sermon (and wasn’t the only one on the royals side to do so) and was the only adult who didn’t smile in the formal wedding photo. She had an air of sulkiness that day. A lot of people excused it for having recently given birth, but given her public behaviour at the commonwealth service, you have to wonder if that was too generous of an interpretation.
I think Kate’s dress was perfect for the big family photo, the Queen wore one shade of Green and Doria wore another, Camilla was in a light pink and then Kate was in a pale yellow. So in the family photo everyone was coordinated and matched the flowers Megan picked. If Kate had worn blue for example she would have really stuck out in the photos, instead she kinda blended in.
Exactly. She, or someone, had to have known it would look white. And they knew Americans would be watching. Now, I guess you could argue that no one knew Americans would think it weird that the sister-in-law was wearing white, but I don’t believe that.
There’s nothing questionable about Kate’s dress. It’s a re-wear. It’s wedding appropriate and it isn’t white. I doubt anyone could tell you what Kate wore. It was forgettably appropriate.
That day was about the Bride as it should be.
@DarlingDiana that is the point many of us are making.
If it was a rewear, it was white (or a very soft off white.)
if it wasn’t a rewear….then it was very close to white and Kate should have done better.
Ugh yes this is off-white. I was shocked when I saw this because it came off as such passive aggressive shade against Meghan. While I knew Kate to do pap strolls and get attention here and there, I didn’t think she was the type to go so far as upstage her BIL’s global wedding with this behavior.
Kate is savvy enough to know how this would look and photograph. If she had worn the palest of butter tones, nobody would call her shady. (In hindsight, this is not surprising.)
Well, I see light, soft yellow. Contrast it with the white of Charlotte’s dress and you’ll see that it is no way bridal white. It is also in no way bridal at all! It’s a simple coat dress. This isn’t a dress chosen to steal the spotlight. Further than that, this is a woman that delivered a baby two weeks prior, I don’t think her brother-in-law’s wedding day or beautiful bride was her overarching concern. Kate is normally too thin, imo, which means while I think that she looks great here, she would likely disagree.
Exactly. The fact that this is still a question is reason enough to conclude that it was too close to white. If you have to sit there and wonder if a shirt really needs ironing… then you should iron it. If we have to get paint chips out to see how far away her cream outfit was to white… it’s too close to white.
I was shocked when I saw Kate’s dress at H&M’s wedding, but very surprised that, on the day and later on, NOT ONE criticism was heard about that mean girl act. Since weddings are the main events in the royal and aristo circles – the wedding seasons are packed with weddings of their kind – she knew exactly what she was doing; wearing any colour close to white (the bride’s dress colour) is a classic wedding faux pas.
When Oprah realized the day before the wedding that the dress she originally planned to wear – a beige dress – looked too white, she changed her mind. She then asked Stella McCartney to make her a new dress; overnight she and her team made her the pale pink ensemble she wore at the royal wedding. That’s called having respect for the bride and knowing your position at someone else’s wedding.
It was off-white, but does anyone else think it wasn’t actually a huge deal? In British wedding parties (at least the photos I’ve seen) it’s common for all the women and children in the wedding to wear the same white/off-white color, no? I mean, Pippa literally wore a wedding dress to Kate’s wedding. Kate prob was considered “in” the wedding party.
Kate didn’t even wear white/cream/off-white/primrose yellow to Pippa’s wedding.
Pippa was in the wedding party for Kate’s wedding. Regular guests don’t normally wear white to the ceremony.
I’m British.
No, it’s definitely not common to wear white/off-white unless you are part of the bridal party and that’s the colour scheme the bride has chosen.
Wearing white to a wedding is considered a very rude in the UK (unless you are from an ethnic group that has different cultural attitudes towards wedding colours, eg it’s an Indian or Chinese wedding taking place in the UK). I’m a regular poster on Mumsnet and there are constant threads complaining about people wearing white to weddings.
IMO the outfit is pale yellow and the cut is non-bridal, so it’s fine. But as a general rule it’s not okay to wear white here.
Kate wasn’t in the wedding party, though. Is it really common for guests to wear white in Britain? It’s considered rude in the US.
If someone was thoughtful enough to accept an invitation to attend my wedding I can’t imagine spending time complaining about what they wore.
I don’t think it’s a huge deal at all,except of course being talked about so much.I thought Kate’s favorite color was white,plus she’s definitely someone who color coordinates her family I really think she wanted to *match*Charlotte in photos.
If it is considered rude to wear white (and in US it was but the rules are relaxing)she did wrong-but I really doubt Meghan cared.
@Mac, I’m with you. One of my friends who drove 600 miles to attend wore a white dress to my wedding. Sometimes people looking at my wedding album comment on it, but I was just really happy she was able to come and tbh I didn’t even notice at the time that she was wearing white or that it was a faux pas.
The customs around weddings make my eyes roll so hard, making a fuss over what color Kate wore is a whole lot of people not having anything better to do. Besides Meghan’s dresses were exquisite, no one was pulling focus from that.
Anyone with a hint of etiquette knowledge knows that the custom around not wearing white to a wedding comes from a time period where
– wedding dresses weren’t standard
– everyone dressed more formally
– wedding would often have invitees who may not have met the bride and/or groom.
Like most etiquette, it’s kindness-based and exists to prevent people from embarrassing themselves. If you hadn’t met or seen a photo of the bride, and everyone is wearing formalwear, and someone else is wearing a white dress, you might congratulate the wrong person.
Obviously the lower classes have never quite figured this out – that’s why places like Mumsnet will debate it (when they take a small break from wishing death upon trans people).
Wearing white breaks no etiquette rule, unless you show up to someone else’s wedding in a full white wedding dress.
Kate has done many passive aggressive things, but I agree with you here FC, this is no big deal, besides most people wear light colours to weddings.
I think Kate was probably going for a pastel shade because that seems to be what a lot of ladies wear to a wedding but because it was pale yellow, we ended up with this debate. I really doubt she was deliberately trying to wear something as close to white as possible. I don’t think it’s weird, that anything was meant by it or that it’s even a big deal.
What a horrible, snobbish comment, fiorenza.
Obviously you are not British, or if you are, you certainly are not upper class.
Among the English upper classes, wearing white to a wedding is a well-known etiquette faux pas.
Ya, it’s off-white and the same one she wore for Charlotte’s christening. Doesn’t surprise me she’d do the white/off white thing at someone’s wedding, she’s a flaming bitch and has shown us that time and time again. The less attention she gets, the better.
You all need glasses. It’s a butter yellow. This Canadian finds it HILARIOUS how you Americans are so quick to jump to narcissist Meghan’s defense. All. The. time.
Sorry, but it’s not just ‘us Americans’ who noticed it.
This American finds it HILARIOUS how triggered a troll like you is by Meghan’s existence, Sandra.
Here you are defending passive aggressive Kate. Regardless of what you think of her, it was weird to wear that very pale color on another women’s wedding day. Also, if not being a doormat who takes others bs and smears, and holds their head high is narcissism,I’m all for it. Maybe you need a spine.
you should get your eyes checked – it’s cream. OFF WHITE. The only thing yellow are those stupid fake flowers on her fascinator.
@sandra,
Narcissist? The color really isn’t a big deal, but it is so obvious you are projecting, and to be that triggered that you’d type such an ignorant comment is sad. Next time you come back, make sure you bring your professional mental health credentials. Otherwise, stop the childish hate.
@Sandra, well THIS Canadian things you need to look at some colour samples, because that is clearly a cream/off white. Charlotte is in a pure white, Kate is in a cream. Yes, technically cream has a bit of yellow to it, but not enough to be called yellow. Had she gone even two shades darker it would have been lovely.
— A New Brunswicker who has spent 10 years working with colour and doesn’t have time for your hatred of Meghan.
You tried. I know OHIP doesn’t cover eye exams between the ages of 18 to 65 but you should look into one of those colour blindness tests. It’s clearly needed.
Try wearing white or off-white to an Argentinian wedding. Bride will have you escorted outside the second you walk in.
I mean just the thought that Kate Middleton or her fans even thought she would pull any attention/focus on Meghan’s day is just hilarious, I mean c’mon. Just off the top on my head, Oprah, Serena Williams, Prianka Chopra, Amal Clooney, just to mention a few, all this big name women were at the wedding, and NONE of them pulled focus. And these are women that have self made money because they worked for it and are famous because they are either self made and are not airheads. And one thinks Kate Middleton would pull focus because WHY exactly? Because she wore a white dress? Really? Like, Kate Middleton is just Kate Middleton, hello!!!!!
That’s basically a ‘getting married at the court house’ wedding dress, and Kate knew that. She’s a petty, not very nice, person.
I agree. When they featured the pictures the other day, I noticed under my breath that Lazy Kate’s dress looked like a winter white, but I didn’t mention it since we were talking about how her attire has held up for the past 2 years. But yes, miss pettiness insisted on trying to upstage Meghan.
She and William seem so gross, at this point.
Now that I know the true Kate……it was some shade of WHITE
It was yellow, and there are numerous articles pointing out how they are different coats (sleeve buttons, etc).
It’s a different coat but in terms of it being yellow … that coat was so tacky. A design that made people think of a major moment in the Cambridge family and so light that it looks off-white. It was a fail for Kate.
She also wore this coat in light blue to a RAF ceremony. Did that make people think of a “major moment” for the Cambridge family? Honestly. Also, if anyone thinks the dress wasn’t approved by Meghan and/or the queen, I have a bridge to sell you.
Yes. Look at the coverage from the wedding day. The design and the christening and confusion about the color is part of discussing Kate’s look. Tacky as hell when the point is not to draw attention to yourself.
At least with the blue coat, it was clearly discernable as blue and not so light that again it could become a point of discussion,
The pale blue would have been perfect for the wedding.
She was less than a month postpartum. Jesus, leave her alone. I’m guessing she went with this one because it was the most comfortable. She wore a repeat so as not to draw attention to herself.
But was it a repeat or was it a new coat? if repeat, then its definitely white/cream.
It’s not a repeat. Kate really bought a brand new coat in almost exactly the same shade as her white coat. Finding it difficult to tell the difference is you making my point for me. Kate has enormous amounts of help but instead she chose to do a tacky thing and I am not here for using Kate being post-partum as an excuse.
If it were a one-off, then it would be whatever. But in light of the rest of Kate’s behavior like the budget plane stunt and the snotty behavior at the Commonwealth Service, wearing off-white to her SIL’s wedding is just more tacky behavior from her.
@Nancy: if you think Meghan has ever once gotten to “approve” what Catherine would wear, I’ve got a space station to sell you! LOL.
It was off-white, or ivory and the silk flowers were pale yellow. It was so light that it’s making the news, still. That has to say something. Charlotte’s dress looks like a pale pink with blue undertones. Catherine is wearing off-white, with her “nude” heels. It’s pretty obvious from the photos. Tacky. I will say, that is a pretty hat.
And she’s already busting out the lemon-sucking look. I don’t think there was ever a “fab four.” I think William and Catherine were jealous. William has his Rose garden, but all Catherine has is “speaking through her clothes.” Such a huge point was made of that, and they’re right. She’s definitely speaking via her clothes here. Loud and clear.
Repeat or new, makes no difference. The wedding wasn’t sprung on her at the last minute, she had months and months to prepare, and tailors on hand to make any last minute adjustments.
She wore that white/white passing outfit because that’s precisely what she wanted to wear to another woman’s wedding. Passive aggressive and competitive. Nothing different from what we keep seeing from her even now.
I used to be very firmly neutral on Kate, but it’s precisely this sort of underhanded, passive aggression towards Meghan (and apparently other women), that’s made me sour towards her.
It’s wild that people don’t think Meghan approved of or at least had knowledge of what Kate was wearing. New coat, approved yellow, and yeah, we should give any post-partum woman a break.
Kate literally has a hundred similar dress coats that she could have worn that day. She choose to go with a white passing outfit and had a sour look most of the day. There are no excuses for acting like that.
@Nic919,
How did she behave inappropriately? She walked with the kids sometimes and sat with her husband. What was she supposed to do?
The dress color is, obviously, a point of some sort for some. I don’t pretend to understand why. A completely appropriate dress in a completely appropriate color that did not steal one second of Meghan’s shine.
Her faces during the American archbishop’s sermon were massively inappropriate. Camilla and Zara weren’t great either. She was supposed to not act like a racist white snobby Brit when a visiting clerical official attended the chapel and preached in a style that she wasn’t used to. Someone invited by her own father in law.
The sour look in the wedding photo was also inappropriate. She can grin on a dime and couldn’t be bothered to put on an act in her brother and new sister in law’s wedding photo.
That’s what was inappropriate.
@Nic919,
Um, inappropriate facial reactions?! If she stuck her tongue out, rolled her eyes, checked her watch continually, or pursed her lips pointedly, I would agree. All I saw was blank, neutral faces, smiles, or some registered surprise at the American preacher (whom Ioved). I think it unlikely most of these people had ever heard that type of sermon and were not rude in the least.
If anyone was notably rude, it would be been all over the DM the next day. They live to stir stuff like that up.
@Bella, absolutely. It’s Kate all the way. She had plenty of time to prepare. Also, while it’s a pretty hat, it’s really big, and I don’t believe that’s by chance. Has to be the center of attention – certainly where Meghan is concerned.
Reminds me most recently of her pap walk post Meghan and Harry’s last UK trip – where she wore the same color blue that Meghan had on in the iconic umbrella photo with Harry.
@ Windyriver
Exactly. And don’t forget the strong red she wore to the common wealth service, a day or two after Meghan + Harry’s red on red outfits. I feel as though she plays a lot of weird little mind games in this way. Mimicking Meghan, but with a slight enough twist to raise doubts about her intent.
So for instance, at Meghan’s wedding, going for a very, very, very pale shade of yellow with a pale yellow hat…..the look did exactly what it was meant to do: it was white enough to compete, distract and cause comment, but just yellow enough to obfuscate her intent and give her supporters a basis for defense.
Just like she dressed Louis up in Harry’s clothes at trooping the colour 2018(?), she also wore the same earrings Diana wore at Harry’s christening to Archie’s christening. Wouldn’t you leave those types of items to Harry’s wife to enjoy on that particular day?
At the same time, they’re the sorts of things Meghan can’t really make a fuss about, for fear of looking petty, but surely, are meaningful enough to get in her head.
She definitely plays mind games with clothes and is passive aggressive about them.
it’s why I don’t give her a pass anymore on the white/off white/cream/”primrose yellow” dress to the wedding. It was intentional. Kate knew what she was doing.
Let’s not forget when she cosplayed Diana (again) for the “presentation” of Louis, trying to match Diana from when she came out with Harry.
Camilla must have really wanted attention in that case. Her hat is huge.
Camilla’s hats are always huge, lol.
Kate sometimes does wear large hats to weddings (see Zara’s wedding outfit for a good example of Kate wearing a light dress that is obviously not white AND a big hat that is almost a dupe of this one) but for the most part she sticks to fascinators, at least recently.
I believe that the dress is yellow. Looking at it against the white of Charlotte’s dress it looks like a very, very soft yellow. I would say, i really doubt that Kate didn’t tell Meghan or communicate to Megan’s team what she was going to wear. This was a highly publicized event and I doubt anyone wanted last minute problems. It’s still too close to white to be appropriate to wear at a wedding but I do think it is yellow.
As for the Meghan made Kate cry thing.. my tinfoil hat is that Kate just cried in front of Meg. I dont think Meg had anything to do with it I think she was just there. Kate had just had a baby and its very likely that Charlotte may have been acting like a frustrated toddler because of a boring dress fitting or maybe Kate got emotional because her child was getting so big and she cried. And Meg was there. And then it became “Well Kate was in the room with Meg while she cried and so … must be her fault.” I think it was normal postpartum emotion that got spun to the tune of the smear campaign.
If Meghan had nothing to do with the crying then it would have been nice for the Wootton story to be corrected very quickly. That did not happen. They let it linger in the media as another Bad Meghan story.
Yes, I agree. That’s why I said it got turned into part of the smear campaign.
@ Cidykitty…I agree w/everything you said. From primrose yellow to she cried in the presence of Meg & it was twisted. No one paid any attention to Kate outside commenting that she was the children attendant wrangler & she is at her best w/kids
Kate could have denied the story and put a stop to it. Her silence spoke volumes.
Isn’t it considered in poor taste to rewear something for a wedding? I think it is.
No it’s not at least where I come from.
This is why I hate what weddings have become. Buy a wedding gift, buy a shower gift, give money towards the wedding, buy something for the stagette, and now it’s poor taste to rewear clothing? Come on now, the wedding industry is out of control. I’ve heard it’s poor taste (in Canada) to wear white, I’ve never heard anything about having to shell out for a brand new outfit….Glad I’m of an age where my friends are on their 2nd weddings – much less of the money grab.
I don’t get it, everyone is supposed to wear only new clothes to a wedding? Never heard of that. I certainly recycled outfits, nobody was looking at me.
This is no ordinary wedding or of your 2nd cousin you haven’t seen since grade school. Rewear or not, I feel that dressing appropriately for a wedding is just respectful, especially since couples put so much time and expense into weddings now. Harry is Williams only brother, and they were supposedly close, so to just be so blah with how she dressed for his wedding is just a bit off, to put it mildly. This was a major national celebration, bot another garden party. The fact that this is a huge thread shows it was noticed then and was a bad sign.
Lots of people have go-to wedding outfits that are classic, comfortable, and always appropriate. That way you never have to worry whether you have the right bag, shoes, jewelry, or makeup, and you know what hairstyles work best.
Its not considered tacky where I am, but the line about how Kate always rewears clothes for weddings is also BS.
@Becks1
You seem to be the only one to bring that up on this thread.
Not sure your point. Its accurate. She rewears sometimes, not for every wedding. Not to the point where its like “she is known for this.” Her dress to Eugenie’s wedding was not a rewear (similar style, yes, but not the dress itself.)
I currently have a favorite dress/duster in a pistachio green linen that I consider to be my wedding guest dress. I was kind of disappointed that my daughter wanted me to to wear something more formal for her beach wedding because I love it, it’s very comfy, and the duster hides a lot! I’ll be sad when it wears out so I pretty much save it for weddings at this point. Speaking of her wedding, her father’s girlfriend (same age as my daughter) wore a white lace dress to the wedding or as my BFF said a white girdle with a lace shower curtain wrapped around it – lol!
I was happy to click on this post instead of the Trump post first b/c I like to remember when this kind of thing was what we were riled up about! I think if Kate’s coatdress was a bit more yellow it would have saved a lot of fuss and attention…oh wait!…I guess that was the point.
What?! I’ve never heard that.
I’ve never heard of that being the case, although any wedding I’ve ever attended I’ve always bought a new outfit, same goes for any friends/colleagues attending a wedding.
ha. hell no. I know what works and I’m sticking to it. And no one gives a flying poop what I wear!
where? On which continent but iam pretty sure not here in Europe.
Nor in the US.
Ridiculous. People don’t buy new clothes for weddings unless they are in it or are parents of the couple marrying.
Also, how would anyone know if the outfit you wore was brand new or not? It just makes no sense.
@Minx, none of this pearl clutching about that spectacular wedding day, especially what Kate wore, makes any sense, imo. It was a glorious day with a lovely couple and a beautiful service, end of.
@Minx, none of this pearl clutching about that spectacular wedding day, especially what Kate wore, makes any sense, imo. It was a glorious day with a lovely couple and a beautiful service, end of.
Wow. So in addition to a wedding gift or donation and any other associated costs in attending a wedding you expect all of your guests to buy an entirely new outfit? Talk about privilege!
I think given the pastel tones of the rest of the BRF and Doria that Kate was supposed to be in pale yellow and either it didn’t photograph true to form or it was just an overall fail and given her post partum state it was too late to find a suitable replacement that fit her and the family colour scheme. I tend to think the royal family could pull some major strings at the last minute so not sure how likely the second option is.
I know people have their views on Kate being jealous. Maybe she is, who knows. I just don’t buy that this particular case was a spiteful or underhanded move. Truly, what woman in her right mind would ever want to look so obviously passive aggressive and jealous? Especially when she knew the world was watching and hoping to see competitiveness and rivalry between her and Meghan?
People want the Meghan-Kate rivalry. It is Diana-Fergie all over again. These are adult women. They do the best they can with their spouses’ family.
Meghan and Harry apparently don’t like any of them and opted out. William and Kate have less option but Kate, also, has her Middleton family. I don’t think that she is as bothered by the royals when her sense of self and family comes from her side and she is passing that to her children. I think Meghan and Harry have found that same sense of family with each other.
Kate literally froze out her sister in law at the commonwealth service. That’s bitchy. While the past things could have been explained away, you cannot pretend that she wasn’t rude to her brother and sister in law that day. And in light of all the other passive aggressive moves she has made in the past, it is all linked.
@Nic919,
The public announcement of separation by the Sussex had been made by then along with a whole lot of suggestion that the royal family are jerks. Did you expect any of them (Cambridges or Wales) to appreciate that?! Meghan and Harry were giddy because they got what they wanted. The others were unhappy because they were being pilloried as jerks by the Sussexs.
Families sometimes don’t get along. These ones emphatically do not. No one pretended to be friendly while being called insensitive jerks? Shockibg.
wait, so now we are excusing the poor behavior from Kate at the commonwealth because there were insinuations in the paper that she was not welcoming to Meghan? LMAO for days. No. Meghan endured years of abuse in the tabloids and she still managed to smile at events, even events with family when she was being accused of being a diva, making Kate cry, trying to kill Charlotte with her wedding flowers, etc.
Kate 100% behaved poorly at the commonwealth service and there is zero excuse for it. If she can smile at someone like Steve Mnuchin, she can smile at Meghan and say hello for 10 seconds before sitting down.
It is white. The hat matches the dress, and only the flowers on the hat are a slightly contrasting pale yellow.
I think it’s good that she recycles outfits (esp. for weddings) so that the press coverage isn’t about her, who/what she wore, etc. But this may not have been the best option out of her vast closet on this particular occasion. Don’t know if it was intentional – like you said, the “no guests in white” rule may not exist in the UK – but in a family where etiquette and “protocol” are so consciously studied, I find it hard to believe she wouldn’t at least be aware that at a wedding with an American bride and many, many Americans present and viewing from home, that her choice would be noticed, that her decision would appear to be a conscious one, and that it would become an even bigger story than a new bespoke McQueen ever would have.
That rule definitely exists here in England. If anything it’s far more taboo to wear white to a wedding in the UK than it is in the US.
@Paigeishere thanks for the clarification. I don’t know if you posted here two years ago, but the arguments defending Kate went as follows:
1) its not white
2) if it IS white, its okay, because its a repeat
3) wearing white to a wedding in the UK is completely fine and accepted.
Whatever I may think of her as a public figure, but this is a different coat. A) it’s very clearly yellow B) the skirt is narrower, less flowy. I don’t doubt that she ordered more or less the same thing with minor alterations in different colours. It’s her MO.
She’s also worn a version in blue. I honestly am not even sure this was Kate’s fault. I can see her just asking them to make her versions in blue and yellow and not bothering to see the exact shades. I’m pretty sure her stylist was on maternity leave during that time. She doesn’t put much thought into her outfits. It’s always been her stylist’s job. She just asks that they be on theme. Her clothing started to pick up again when she hired someone after her maternity leave.
no, I think her stylist was on maternity leave last year, when Kate went through that phase of actually dressing nicely.
I’m sorry but there’s no way she didn’t know the color. Her hat had to match as well.
Of course it’s not Catherine’s fault! Nothing ever is. She chose/approved this look. There were fittings, if it was new. The hat had to match. Making it takes time. She didn’t just wake up and pull open her closet door that morning.
AFAIK the Daily Mirror is a British publication and they are saying it’s not cool to wear white/off-white/ivory to someone else’s wedding. Putting yellow flowers as and accent on the hat doesn’t change that. Spinning it as a repeat also doesn’t change that. Catherine the Not So Great of the House of Petty, who never put a foot wrong.
I do feel for her in that, every time she hears someone say “English rose” she probably seethes.
Yes. The FFQ did a tacky and insulting thing and wore white to her SIL’s wedding and made a stinkface in the wedding pictures to boot.
She also exchanged looks of condescension with Camilla when Bishop Curry was speaking and I think the whole family looked down at their program during the vows.
The family went through the motions of seeming friendly so they couldn’t be criticized by the press and then left Harry and Meghan to the wolves except for when their own public images were involved -Kate denying speaking up for her staffmember and William’s bullying statement from Harry.
The length Cambridge stans will go to is ridiculous. We can all see the color of the coat. Kate knows better. This was not a mistake.
Exactly. The sour faces in the photo and during the sermon were more offensive than the dress colour. It moved from tacky and passive aggressive to ill behaved. Many of the royals did not come off well during that ceremony.
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The disrespect shown by that family toward Bishop Curry was just the worst sort of ignorance on display. This man is the head of the Episcopal Church in the United States, the equivalent of the Anglican Archbishop. He’s not some storefront Baptist preacher ( no disrespect meant there). He was not Meghan’s pastor but was there to represent the American side of the Church of England, since she converted to Anglicanism for Harry. To act like they have no idea who he is shows that most of the royals aren’t really that religious, well informed, and are duds at diplomacy.
Converted from Jewish?, catholic?, what was the religion du jour? There is no requirement to ‘convert’ if you marry a member of the BRF, if she did that it is on her.
Autumn Phillips converted as well and Peter was way further down the list. And trashing whether or not Meghan had a religion is pretty fresh considering Kate only got confirmed as an adult after her engagement despite growing up in England. Can’t be too religious when Anglicans who actually practice get their kids confirmed around 13 or 14.
@Grumpy my point is not the conversion but the utter ignorance about Bishop Curry and his position in the Episcopal church. I’m not clear on what your point is since I have no idea what religion Meghan was raised other than it being some other Protestant faith however. She attended a Catholic high school , and her ex husband is Jewish. Also Revered Curry presided over the funeral of former President George H.W.Bush. I still think some of the Royals were incredibly disrespectful during his sermon.
Team “it was off-white”. I remember WKW had a whole breakdown at the time of the differences and how this WAS a new dress, and it was just…stupid. Like, the options are stupid. Either Kate rewore a white/off white dress to the wedding, or Kate paid money for ANOTHER bespoke McQueen in the EXACT same style as a McQueen she already had that she had worn for another significant event, in just a SLIGHTLY different shade.
I’m not sure either of those scenarios makes Kate look awesome, to be honest.
I think her hat was off white too, it was the flowers that were yellow.
the ONLY pass I’ll give her is that this is a style she wore when Charlotte was a few months old, so maybe she knew it would fit her post-partum and was comfortable, so she decided to re-wear it.
But lets not forget that she wore this exact style in a pale shade of blue for a RAF event a few months later so if she was going to have it made in a different color, she could have (ie. not “primrose yellow.”)
We all know that paying money for an almost identical bespoke wouldn’t stop her.
Whether it was primrose yellow or off-white, either way, it was too close to white.
Well, it definitely wouldn’t stop Kate, lol, but its a poor excuse – when people insist it was a new dress so it wasn’t white.
Doesn’t matter what color it was, it was too close to white and THAT was the issue. I’m not Meghan and I don’t even know if she cares about any of that, but that was a sign of disrespect to me.
WORD.
Agree. Totally intentional.
It occurs to me that all those people who think Megan is so fake and conniving, they really should look at themselves and at the royals. Those people can smile and look nice and it makes them seem like they’re angels or at least super nice people but it’s all a facade. That’s why they resent and downright hate Meghan so much: because she’s genuine. What you see is what you get: a nice person who cares and works hard.
Not a great weather morning here in L.A. I hope the day turns out warmer and prettier for them on their special day.
Soupy, it’s beautiful here in L.A! Sunny, cool, but of a breeze. In what part of L.A are you? I’m in the Beverly Hills/Century City area, and it’s a gorgeous morning!
And I’ve heard rumblings that it’s an American thing not to wear white. She has no excuse because the bride was American and as the future QC, she should research and dress so she doesn’t offend the guest of honor or your hosts. But those on the blog know full well Kate is an exhibitionist. And there are photos to prove it.
It’s not an American thing. It’s considered extremely rude here in Britain, and that’s such a well-known rule (excluding things like Indian weddings of course) everyone knows about it. Certainly a middle class woman from a socially obsessed family would absolutely know the no white rule.
@Paigeishere – very interesting. I thought the dress is off white, but this is the one thing that would make me think it’s possibly very pale yellow after all. Not that Kate still didn’t intend for it to look as close to white as possible, but as @CommentingBunny says below, this way she has plausible deniability.
Like Paige said, white, off-white, even a white print in some cases, would all be heavily frowned at. There is no question that Kate wore that to draw comment/focus to herself on Meghan’s day.
Remember, Kate is from a family that completely hid Meghan away on Pippa’s wedding day, for fear of her overshadowing the bride…..they are hyper conscious of attention, which tells me it was a calculated move from a calculating woman.
Hi OGJan, i normally live in Long Beach but am visitng Claremont today. It did turn beautiful here, like you said earlier. 😉
I just cant forget how she seemed so rude in the chapel ,when the bride walked in soon after she was more interested in reading the days programme. Very Unwelcoming all of them!
Agree 100% with NOKI.
Yeah, I haven’t rewatched their wedding cause of the royals behavior. I vividly remember, Zara (no, I don’t care that she was pregnant) being so rude during the Reverend’s sermon. 0 manners.
Zara and Mike are so lucky they haven’t caught more flak for how they behaved about social distancing. They went skiing in Italy and then went to Cheltenham because they were not going to disrupt their lives.
And then Zara went on Good Morning Brtain with Piers Morgan to promote her charity donation.
I actually liked Zara up until that moment. She should have been dragged for her disgusting behavior that day. If literally any non-royal had behaved that way at a royal event Tatler would have tossed them to the lower crust with the commoners.
The royals are classless. I remember the smirks from Camilla, Kate, Zara, the York sisters during a religious sermon. And I remember Kate didn’t even look at Meghan once during the processional or ceremony.
These are the people held up to be the epitome of class? Such trashy behavior. They can smile graciously when meeting murderous dictators and pedophiles but can’t be polite and respectful to clergy (I guess not the black ones) or at the very least for the sake of their future in law and POC watching around the world? The queen is trash too but at least she had her customary RBF on.
It was totally off-white, the yellow hat brought out some added yellow undertones in the coat-dress, but it was totally off-white. My mother in law wore a gleaming, floor-length white dress to my wedding – she looked more like a bride than I did (I wore a cream, lace ankle length dress). Three of my guests also wore white but they wore shorter cocktail dresses.
Original Lala, I agree. This was not yellow. It was white or off white. This was so on purpose. And personally, I think this is Kate’s passive aggressive way to get attention. We have all seen the Cruella Deville in her come out.
Absolutely agree, Originallala. If you cover the yellow flowers in the hat, you see at once that the dress and hat itself are off white. Its only the reflected yellow that gives it any yellow tones.
It was as close to white as she could get while maintaining plausible deniability.
Reminds me of when my big brother would hover his hand over me and say “I’m not touching you, I’m not touching you!”
It was a d!@k move — the dress reads as white regardless of whether she ordered a primrose yellow dress or re-wore the other one.
I think the plausible deniability is the key. These overly privileged folks always do just enough that they can have some room to deny it when things go bad, but we see you.
The Kardashians do the same stuff constantly.
I totally agree – plausible deniability!
If Kate is passive agressive like folks here are saying, this dress color issue is a stellar passive agressive move. After two years we’re still talking about it and her.
Kate can’t control most things in her life so this is probably the only type of behavior she can get away with. Her level of petty is notworthy. I see some arrested development here. She’ll forever be that petty, mean girl because she spent all her time chasing William and not growing herself.
I mean – I’ve always seen it as yellow. It’s a bit like that “THE DRESS” thing where the lighting can kind of do weird things. It’s a very light yellow though, and adding harsh lighting to that washes it out even more. But it’s clearly not the same color as Charlotte’s white dress, and it looks more yellow in the photo that she’s crouching over a bit where she’s in the shade more.
In the inside church photos it’s really hardly lighter than Camilla’s pink outfit. They’re both wearing VERY pale shades though, and I don’t think I’d have chosen either of those colors to wear as a wedding guest if it were me. It was just too close to white or off white for it to NOT cause people to notice.
My thing has always been though that it being that pale of a yellow makes it worse. She should have thought about how it would look in various lighting. Also, take into account that pale yellow shades frequently photograph as an ivory/off-white. If she wanted to wear yellow, she should have gone for a more saturated yellow.
Agreed, Meg. It was a dumb choice.
In the above photos, compared to Charlotte’s white dress, it looks pale yellow. But, shrug, is Kate wearing white to Meghan’s wedding the worst thing she ever did to her? I mean, that’s sort of like fretting over a person jay walking on their way to a murder.
Thanks for the giggle!
LOL, true. Looking back I’m less willing to give Kate the benefit of the doubt – new dress or not, its definitely off-white or cream, and she 100% knew what she was doing by wearing it.
Her sour attitude that day was actually worse than the dress.
I really needed a chuckle today. Thank you LMAO
Haha that is an excellent point Chickaletta. With all of the blatant back stabbing, wearing white is almost barely worth a mention.
It was off white. A different coat, still off white. Being generous, you could call it cream. It was definitely not primrose yellow.
But why tread so close to the line anyway? Of all the shades on the entire visible spectrum Kate had available to choose from, why go for one that might ever be confused with white or off white?
The fact that we had such a huge conversation about Kate’s outfit and are STILL discussing it a year later, was exactly the point for Kate. To steal away some of the attention from the bride. And she sort of succeeded, in a muted way. Perhaps she was hoping for another Pippa moment, who knows. Or maybe it was revenge for cry-gate. Either way, I have zero doubts that it was a calculated, spiteful move, wearing white to her rival’s wedding.
*We now know she sees and has always seen Meghan as a rival.
Even if kate turned up in her own wedding dress, the press would have still turned a blind eye. But I think her outfit in general looks ‘phoned-in’ and the fact that is was ‘nearly white’ is a passive aggressive move. It’s her way of saying she doesn’t give AF, without actually saying it.
I’ve always thought this too based on her hair. For any other event, Kate’s hair is always impeccable and clearly done. On that day it looked like she ran the blow dryer over it and called it a day. I remember it jumping out at me as a passive agressive way of her saying, ‘I don’t give AF about this wedding and I’m gonna show it’.
And before anyone tries to say “but she just had a baby a month earlier!”…Kate’s hair was styled only 1 hour after giving birth, so…
HA, I actually liked how her hair looked at the wedding, bc it seemed soft and full, but I think you’re right, it was a dig. Kate had her hair stylist come to the hospital. She was making a point.
@Becks1, I actually liked her hair too simply because it looked natural, but the fact that it wasn’t curled and fixed ir pinned up in an updo like she does for EVERY other event, yeah, totally a dig. It was one of those things that many wouldn’t notice, but I saw it clear as day.
Normally she does mega grins and she couldn’t be bothered to properly smile in the wedding photo. Her attitude was poor the entire day.
It’s her way of saying ‘this event isn’t important enough for me to actually make an effort’. She was probably sad harry was getting married, I always thought she had a crush on him. I wouldn’t blame her if she did, I would too if I was married to William.
@February Pisces, exactly! Almost as if she is saying to the audience watching, ‘look how unimpressed I am with this whole thing. You shouldn’t be impressed with it either.’
It might sound ridiculous to some, but Kate is a master of what I refer to as “Bitch Speak”–that way of speaking and behaving that’s so subtly passive aggressive and petty that only other Bitch-speakers pick up on it, while it flies over everyone else’s heads. I am fluent in bitch-speak and absolutely see what she was doing that day. The outfit, the hair, the low enthusiasm–all of it was code for “I am so threatened by this woman and I cannot believe she is marrying Harry, and that I am not going to be the center of attention anymore. I hate every second of this and refuse to let her [Meghan] think this day is worthy of any importance.”
It’s passive aggressive behaviour at its finest. Kate seems to be a master at it. Passive aggressive bullies have a was of ‘saying it’ without saying it with words, that way their actions can not be quoted. Of course she “didn’t realise” her outfit looked off white, she thought it was yellow.
Her not wearing weights in her hem is another passive aggressive stunt she love to pull, so when her floaty skirt blows up on a windy day, it’s not her fault cos she can’t help what the winds does. I think she gets a kick out of flashing.
a) Could Kate have worn any other color? Yes. This was petty of her.
b) Everyone and anyone knew that the one who was getting married was Meghan, and I think it’s different if it’s a coat than if it is a floor-length dress. That would’ve been a massive no-no. But if it’s a coat and it’s knee-length…
I do love how the DM portray it as Kate being super nice to Meghan so that no one pays attention to her by re-wearing something (if Meghan had worn a repeated dress/coat to Eugenie’s wedding, the comment would’ve been ‘How dare she repeat, can’t she be a little original? How disrespectful’).
It was def a new dress, and i agree with another comment that said she probably picked it because it was a reliable fit for her post-baby body. but it was definitely too close to white, and the first of many instances i’ve peeped where kate expresses her pettiness via clothing.
as for the crying thing… we’ll never know what happened (until maybe finding freedom), but knowing everything meghan was going through leading up to the wedding, that they could still victimize kate and center her feelings was truly gross. imagine preparing for the biggest moment of your life, with your father acting an ass embarrassing you every day, and then your SIL, whom you barely know, making the moment about her feelings? man, i hope it isn’t true.
Exactly. We all have are moments of stress and just having a breaking point. I had it during my wedding. I can only imagine what it’s like on a global level. And shame on the leak. Somethings need to be left alone.
“Kate expresses her pettiness via clothing”.
Bingo! 6 words that eloquently describe what it took me about 100 to express above….lol.
Does anyone else remember Oprah saying she had Stella McCartney redo her dress the day before the wedding because the original colour read off-white on camera?
Found it!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/19/oprah-winfrey-had-last-minute-outfit-change-avoid-wedding-faux/
I was looking for this!! Even freaking OPRAH changed cause she was too close to white and I’m supposed to believe Kate didn’t know or didn’t do it on purpose? Please!
Oprah has class and is cosmopolitan. She even did a snap on camera to see how it looked. Kudos to her. Maybe she can teach Kate a few things.
Exactly.
Oprah commented about the dress switch on her Instagram the day of the wedding.
Oprah at that wedding was still my favorite. She kept going up to the ushers/bouncers/security waving her invitation for them to check it and you could tell no one wanted to be the one to check Oprah’s invitation lol.
This just shows that kate is either dumb as rocks or mean as a snake: if you are going to be photographed- which she knew she would- then part of your job, as a celebrity, is to think how the fuck your clothes will look like in pictures.
As the article pointed out, Kate wore this clothes before. She knew how they would look like in pictures. So, again, she either dumbly went ahead and wore a dress that looks white on picture without realizing…OR she chose to wore this outfit, which is a very pale shade of yellow, just to sparkle a controversy, be center of attentions and have an ” excuse” as to counter attack (“oh, I did not want to steal Meghan´s thunder, so i wore this old dress I found and it is yellow by the way)
Honestly? I think it was a mean move from Kate. I
I agree. It just comes across as passive aggressive. She is the only one in that color. I know it was spring time but no one else had that color.
Sbe did think about being photographed, in the wedding photo. The entire wedding party blends very well together and I think this was the purpose.
I have to admit, her dress looked really good with the other colours in the wedding picture, but she could have worn a pastel yellow too, and it would have looked just as good. I also think it’s a really pretty wedding picture, and honestly the family looks like they coordinated just for this pic.
Not surprised, it was a wedding, & Kate is “known for her love of literal dressing.” 💁🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
Lol.
NAILED IT!
Yellow or not, it reads off-white. But it’s not the same coat as the earlier one — she was six weeks postpartum, Kate couldn’t have fit into the other coat, even without the noticeable differences between the two coats. But I don’t know that Meghan cared (I’m sure she had other battles to fight at this point) and I suspect she knew what Kate was wearing ahead of time. The family photos with Charles and Camilla and the Spencer aunts were so color-coordinated that I always suspected the color palette was planned.
That’s what I think, too. Everyone was wearing pale green or light yellow (with Camilla in pink). It’s all very coordinated spring pastels. I think Meghan knew ahead of time and I doubt she cared – she was absolutely radiant that day and no one was going to steal her thunder.
@Josie, that’s my thinking too. The group photo looked very well coordinated, almost like the colour palette was planned in advance. I seriously doubt Meghan wouldn’t be aware (or her “people”) or whoever is helping plan the wedding, of what colours everyone was going to wear and to plan for the historic photos.
It looks to be pale yellow but it’s close enough to off white/ white that we’re still debating the color of her dress.
For general civility or just for Kate?
I’m tired of the scolding. If I don’t see the same usernames keeping the same energy for Meghan, I am just fed up with the scolding that has been there for Kate for years.
We dont know her, We are discussing her actions mostly. Is it possible people are way off and some do dislike her? Yes! This is celebrity culture for you in the digital age.
But please, do not act as if Kate is a major victim of bullying. She is not. She is an incredibly privileged woman that just happens to be very traditional-minded, wants to walk two steps behind her husband, has a bunch of kids and works part-time. Working part-time should be right of every mother and it is nice that Kate can have that—however, we should not pretend this woman had a serious job, or any serious aspirations other than marrying well.
For this, and this alone, Kate, as a person, is not very relatable. I personally do not know any woman like her, and I do know some upper middle class ones.
Moreover, Kate has been showing she can be very mean spirited, All those stories that are leaking from their team have a certain spin that deeply bothers most of us and Kate in particular, as a woman married into a family notorious for throwing their married ins under the bus, is, let´s be frank, has been clearly less than sympathetic towards Harry and Meghan. ( outting it mildly)
So, yes, as long as people do not go crazy on her and say disrespctful things, I think the coverage has been valid. If it is not positive is because there are very few positives in their behaviour lately.
Kate’s behaviour at the commonwealth service put to rest any doubts that she’s not an active participant in the campaign against the Sussexes. While many excuses were made for the sour looks and the off white dress at the wedding, we are two years later and she has shown her true face. The spin will go on but we all saw her real feelings the day of the service.
@ Hope- I am not a usual commenter, and feel the scolding is warranted. The behavior shown since the arrival of the Duchess of Sussex, has been unsupportive, passive aggressive and outright rude.
Her behavior at the Commonwealth Ceremony is inarguable. As a future, future diplomat, the behavior demonstrated there makes all these past actions questionable in my mind. I mean, the only job they have to to be courteous and engage with people, and that can’t even happen with family? I am not optimistic for the future.
Geraldine, l agree with everything you say but Kate is currently a diplomat for her country in her position as a senior royal. She should be wearing her game face despite her feelings, and as you say if she can’t behave in an appropriate fashion with her family at a public event on an international level, how does this bode well for the future?
Kate also participated with William in the commercial jet PR. To “show up” Harry so William could play the “good thrifty prince” ( what a joke) in the midst of the criticism of Harry using a private Jet(as if WIlliam and Kate never used private jets). Even the children were used in the photo op PR. So it is par for the course that Will and Kate would behave rudely at the Commonwealth Ceremony. I don’t think it bodes well for their children who I think will grow up with major “attitudes.”
Well said, @Geraldine. For the record, I think Kate’s coat is cream and falls within the “don’t wear white to a wedding not your own” rule.
Kate has walked ahead of her husband. Also, I don’t buy she has to stay home with a “bunch of kids” and work “part time.” Kate has plenty of help and a full time nanny and her children are looked after by her parents. She has people who wait on her. Even if she did full time it would be a lot less than what the average woman does. Kate never liked to work, prior to having children she disappeared to “select her charities and research them” and did very little in the way of work. Before marriage she had very sporadic part time work and mostly waited for William to call her. I think so many excuses have been made for her and I don’t buy into any of them.
I wanted to like Kate, many of us did- but she’s disappointed a lot of people with her laziness and exhibitionism, years before Meghan so much as met Harry. Comparatively, Meghan has given people relatively little to criticize and done much that’s was praiseworthy.
ETA: Was replying to Hope, not sure how I ended up here.
It was a very pale yellow and she would have known how it looked on camera and knew it would get her press attention. I know it matched the colour scheme but she could have gone for a darker shade as to avoid this kind of chatter.
If it wasn’t for the flower in the hat you wouldn’t be wrong in thinking it was close to white, esp on camera.
When the mighty Opes changes her outfit because it looked too close to white then am sure Kate would have taken the same approach.
I’m from Ireland and honestly, lots of people wear cream suits to weddings. It’s not as if anyone is going to look at Kate in this suit and mistake her for the bride. If she’d borrowed Pippa’s bridesmaid dress and worn that, yes it would have been controversial but 🤷♀️
Also- Kate’s face looks great here. She always looks fab during and just after pregnancy.
She looked sour.
Too right and reasonable.
Kate was trying to be matchy-matchy with Normal Bill, George and Charlotte. That dress is off-white. Look at the white flowers right next to the dress at her waist. The shoes are bleh.
Yes-she tried it. The thing is, she’s not fashionable enough to actually pull attention from the bride, it was noticeable enough to know she was being rude.
This 👆🏼👏🏽
Kate never has and never will outshine Meghan no matter what she wears. Most don’t care what she wears because it’s always boring just like her personality.
If she was going to recycle a dress why not that horrific dusty saggy boob dress she wore to Pippa’s? That was definitely not off-white. In any event, I was shocked when I saw it and the fact that so many people still think it’s off-white mean it was too close a call.
Her Pippa wedding dress was truly one of the ugliest dresses I have ever seen on a royal.
Whatever she wore under it, slip or plain sheath, is pure white. The morning of the wedding I thought it might have been the ultimate “royals: their just like us” moment, and she had to throw on a rewear because she couldn’t fit into the dress she was supposed to wear. She looks bigger here than she did at Charlotte’s christening but then this coat situation also looked a little tighter fitting. Either way the world is her sartorial oyster and this is what she landed on…????
I always wonder what one wears under coat dresses. Another dress, just underwear, a slip? Do you take it off indoors. Find the concept confusing.
Who cares! This happened TWO YEARS ago! Are we at the point in our lives right now that we are discussing the color of someone’s dress at a wedding that happened a while ago? Why don’t we rehash the color of that dress everyone was arguing about since it was a slow news day? Whether the outfit was pale yellow, off white or white, it’s done. I don’t think a lot of people in the UK are thinking about it so why should we?
@Michelle
It’s not so random that people are talking about it again, it’s the two year anniversary from that wedding, so it reminded a lot of people of Kate’s faux-pas. This was also a world-wide event, so a lot of people care (& it seem you really do as well) and a lot of people in the UK are thinking about it today . Just because it’s not hard-hitting news doesn’t mean we can’t discuss it. If this story is so unimportant to you then why does it bother you so much? & why are you focusing so much of your energy to dismiss it? This is a gossip site.
@Mtec Because like everyone else on this site, I have an opinion too.
@Michelle
Never said you’re not welcome to share your opinions, just seems odd to me you are so worked up over this and about how much people do care about it when, if you say you don’t care, then why not simply ignore it? That’s what would make more sense to me, but that’s just my opinion 💁🏽♀️
@mtec
Really? a lot of people in the U.K. are thinking about the color of the dress Kate wore two years ago to Meghan’s wedding???? Hmmmmmmm
@Linda
Yes. As I pointed out (and as this article reminds us as well) it’s the two-year anniversary of the wedding, many people all over the world (and that includes the UK) talked about it, there were many articles and discussions about it and the discussion is happening again today because we’re remembering it. It’s actually odd to me you find that so unbelievable when you’re literally commenting on an article about it and where there are UK commenters here discussing it as well. You just have to go to Twitter and Instagram and you’ll see more.
When I read posts like this, it confirms for me that pretty much all of us see that Kate did a petty thing here. We should be able to talk about Kate being a flawed person and being unlikeable. It’s more that we shouldn’t use someone as a punching bag where everything they do is sneered at.
I wish we could have a discussion that isn’t separated into teams and openely talk about the machinations of both couples. I’ll start: I think Meghan also sent a jab with her wardrobe during the Commonwealth Service when she wore a white dress with a pattern of chains. I don’t think that alone was petty but seeing as she’s representing and financially benefitting from the same system, it doesn’t feel appropriate from her.
But things being what they are, can we have a good faith conversation or will everything about Kate and William be ignored? Because I have many, many examples about them.
At the time many defenders of the dress claimed it was an innocent mistake or oversight. A few years down the road and with further petty moves made by Kate and William, and her attitude at the commonwealth service, it’s really hard to claim there wasn’t some intent in wearing it. This is someone who wears the flag colours of Ireland so it’s not like she just tosses on outfits without any thought.
@ Hope
Chain pattern sending a message?! 😂😂😂 Let me guess what message…..she was in captivity and that was fabric morse code telegraphing that she needed immediate rescuing?
I Love a creative mind, but I think you might be reaching a little hun.
It’s either unintentional or it’s in bad taste. Either way, Meghan should have put more thought into it and I would say this for any of the royal women. I can also think of multiple examples with the other royals.
Kate seems to have a habit of wearing questionable choices to Sussex events. I didn’t care for her hot pink mini dress for Archie’s christening,
It makes me irrationally angry when women besides the bride wear white to a wedding. I go out of my way to not wear even pastels – nothing that could remotely be mistaken for white. I won’t even have white in a pattern, white jewelry, shoes..none of it. Perhaps I go overboard lol
And yet, it happens at every wedding. Some jerk needs to pull focus and wear a white dress
As someone who loves to wear offwhite, thats mainly offwhite except the yellow flowers. However it’s too yellow/cream/ “dark?” An offwhite for me. So I can see why there’s room for debate. It’s like the the 80s or nineties when offwhite was called cream (I was just a kid then but was often looking at catalogues for some reason.)
Two things are certain:
•No matter what colour the outfit was, it appears too close to white.
•If Meghan had worn that colour to someone’s wedding, there would be no debate, no excuses and no benefit of the doubt given to her. She would have been widely accused of trying to “overshadow” and “upstage” the bride.
Meghan was vilified for not buttoning her coat and “upstaging Eugenie” “announcing a pregnancy.” If Kate had announced a pregnancy it would be praised as a Joyous occasion and Eugenie was Thrilled.
My god imagine if Meghan had worn this exact shade of “pale yellow” to Eugenie’s wedding…
I dont know what Kate wanted to say with that (and i don’t care) Coatdress but it was so boring and meaningless, yellow white, it was boring and couldn’t steal the attention from a dove. It’s forgettable, we are only still stalking about it because of the narrative around this family.
That dress is a very very pale yellow that photographs white. It is so painfully plain. She should have dressed up a bit more, whatever the motives in wearing it. It looks like making yourself a martyr to get attention.
The fact that she had a blue option(last worn in RAF Centenary) to rewear but specifically choose to go for WHITE was our first hint to how bitter becky KeenKueen is! I mean who does that?!! Her stans are quick to excuse it with fake stories about us not doing this in the UK when it’s the opposite. We do alot of American traditions like Halloween and baby showers.
@AwkwardSymony, Exactly! That’s the thing. Kate is very well versed in symbolic dressing.They go on and on about protocol when it suits them , but with the bride being American, everyone knows about the rule about wearing white to weddings is a big no-no. Even Oprah said she changed her dress last minute because it looked too pale and didn’t want it mistaken for white. Remember when the press was trying to make a thing about Meghan wearing black to Misha Nonoo’s black tie evening wedding, saying you shouldn’t wear black ( no problem with the other women who wore black though)? Kate wanted to dress like a plain white mouse in that fug plain coat dress on purpose to show she did not care and it’s just another day for her.
How many times have people accused Meghan of announcing her pregnancy at Eugenie wedding upstage the bride . How many articles called Meghan names how many articles came out accusing Meghan of breaking protocols and upset the York’s because Meghan pregnancy step on Eugenie new cycles. But no one is allowed to discuss Kate wearing a clearly white outfit to another woman wedding no matter how many people try to claim that it’s yellow it clearly white and Kate knew her dress would appear white on camera she want a attention she wanted to upstage Meghan . All this nonsense about her being post pregnancy is just another excuse to Kate behavior she always a victim of some how she always innocent . Even when the clearly evidence of mean girl ways like her behavior at the church services her actions at their wedding her particular in the plane stunt . We all know if Meghan wore white to other person wedding the knights would be out for her in full force to this day people still accused her of announcing her pregnancy at Eugenie even though people that’s not what happen at all .
Kate could have ran screaming down the aisle and while a bit distracting – it wouldn’t have pulled focus off of Megan. I mean Kate wasn’t the main focus of her own wedding. It was her sisters butt. So……. beige is beige. It’s just not that thrilling.
I’m team Meghan but I think in this case, there were no ill intentions. I even think the primrose yellow dress that Kate wore was preapproved so that the family picture would look perfect and it did. White for meg and shades of yellow/green like her bouquet for the rest. Camilla was the one who seemed to me to be out of theme.
It was white/off white and making a statement ‘I will be disrespectful to you in front of the world on your wedding day but I my husband outranks yours so too bad’. I think this was common from Kate and the reason they moved from KP.
Definitely didn’t draw an ounce of attention away from Meghan, who was glowing.
If that dress is “pale yellow” it is definitely NOT primrose yellow. A quick Google search on Images will prove that to you that primrose yellow is much darker than whatever “yellow” this supposedly is.
However I will always be in the camp of off-white/cream/ivory.The only yellow I see in the outfit are the flowers with the hat and that’s about it. The first thing out of my mouth when I saw Kate when I watched the wedding was “Why is she wearing white???” And while I used to think she wore the coatdress from Charlotte’s christening, What Kate Wore did a deep dive into the very small alterations that distinguish this nearly identical coatdress from the other one. She was after all barely a month postpartum so she probably had a coatdress made in a flattering silhouette she knew she would be comfortable in. But she knew what she was doing when she wore this dress. It was a passive aggressive move and she knew it would generate controversy. Not enough to take away from Meghan’s day, but enough to be mildly distracting. It was petty and didn’t make Kate look good at all.
But sometimes Kate really is tone deaf, like the time she wore a BRIGHT PINK coat to the 9/11 memorial when she and William visited in NYC. That was a huge faux pas.
At the end of the day, Kate could’ve chosen any other pastel/light color for her dress (blue, purple, pink, etc.), and yet she chose to wear a color close to the bride’s dress. Between that and her nasty attitude at the wedding, it’s clear that she made an effort to be as unpleasant as possible. And no, giving birth to her third child a month prior is no excuse because she could’ve easily cited that as a reason to skip the wedding; no one would fault her for being absent. I remember lots of people at the time were wondering if she’d actually make an appearance.
Kate has a long history of being passive aggressive and plain nasty when it comes to other women who aren’t her relatives, especially other women who make her feel insecure/are viewed as competition to her. It’s hilarious that people will forever make excuses for this woman when she has repeatedly shown how catty she is. No amount of empty smiles and lackluster engagements will ever disguise her petty, shallow nature.
I was also bothered by the “primrose yellow” description. If it’s yellow, it NOT “primrose yellow.” I looked back & that description of the outfit was straight out of a KP news release. It was such an odd choice that the conspiracy theorist in me wondered if it was one of those coded word choices that gets thrown around when discussing the duchesses, as if to call to mind a “prim” (and proper) “English rose.”
I think including the phrase primrose yellow in the palace press release actually is more damning for the colour being an intentional move. If it had been an honest mistake and Kate didn’t realise it would show up so pale, as claimed, would the colour have been highlighted? It sounds like getting the excuses in early because they knew that it was too close to white.
The defenders tried to pretend the snub at the commonwealth service didn’t happen, but the video captured it. Kate is a shallow petty woman who is insecure in so many ways, but she benefits from white supremacy and has coasted on being mediocre for a decade.
I don’t mind the outfit choice, it’s kind of matronly in style (sorry Kate!) so reads less like trying to compete with the bride. It’s not like she showed up wearing her reception gown from 2011. I was, however, unimpressed with the behaviour – pulling faces/snickering during parts of the service. Surely your job as a member of the royal family is to be unflappable? I was embarrassed for a few of them.
This entire family enterprise has made their life’s work to be petty and passive aggressive. In this instance it does seem that all are dressed to blend in and create a cohesive happy family look for the portraits following the ceremony. Photos are what the royal family use to communicate so I see where everyone was coordinated in their choices.
Wow, ya’ll are really into fighting about this lol I just want to say I love Kate’s hat
Rant and feel free to ignore me…but as a wedding grinch…the whole “it’s all about the bride” narrative feeds the mentality that this is the most important day in her life, a mentality left over from a time when women surrendered all autonomy on her wedding day. Why should any confident successful woman looking forward to a future of confidence and success with her life partner GaF what another woman wears at her wedding?
Hear hear!
It was pale yellow, just as Camilla’s was pale pink. It was appropriate for summer, and the cut was of your typical wedding/church variety. Christ, not everything is a slight to Meghan.
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Going a bit off topic here – in my culture the bride wears red, mother of of the bride wears red, mother of the groom wears red, all the close female relatives wear red! This is accessorised with lots and lots of gold and other bling. In photos, the wedding party looks like a sea of red and gold. No one ever mistakes anyone else for the bridge though!
About wearing white, I get that it’s rude but is it that rude to wear an almost white looking dress that’s in a coat form? Is this kind of boring dress really pulling focus or are we just making it a big deal because that’s the “rule” that’s apparently broken? Wouldn’t someone like Amal Clooney also pull focus by wearing a very dramatic bright yellow ensemble? If so, where do you draw the line? In my opinion, looking your best is a way to honour the occasion.
I get that people are mad because it’s Kate and they consider her petty, but what if it was someone else? Would a pale yellow/almost white dress offend as much? In any case, no one could pull focus from Meghan on that day, she was radiant!
Lol no idea why small children need ‘fittings’ for clothes.
Pick her the size she wears and put it on her.
how the hell could one of Waity’s boring coat dresses take anything away from Meghan. the RF seem to do shades at weddings so they look good in pics: ie Doria with a lighter version of the queen., camilla in the palest pink. Kate should have been in pale yellow but she’s in cream. But come on, how does her boring as batshit coatdress that she wears every other week take away from the bride? I didn’t love Meghan’s dress, but it’s not my wedding, it’s HERS and she was radiant and Harry was radiant and who give a you-know-what about anyone else. Especially Waity and her freaking coatdress. to me, fwiw, her out fit was lazy. but what’s surprising about that? Having said that, she was post-partum and frankly, I’d go safe too if that were me. but i’ld pick a darker colour in case of leakage accidents (that’s just me, I had leakage accidents).
I follow cele/bitchy everyday, and I don’t usually comment, however I must comment on Kate’s behavior. The choice of outfits at the wedding I found to be inappropriate, and her behavior during the service was rude. I have seen her mean girls face on several occasions. When people show who they are believe them.
She knew exactly what she was doing.
thinking back on it now, i never gave a second thought to what Catty wore on the day. i was so focused on the bride, groom, bridal party, service, crowd response etc. that not once did i stop to care about her standard uniform coat dress.
If you’ll look at the official family photo Kates dress IS a pale yellow which looks really good against the Queen & Dorias green dresses.
Too close to the bride’s color and wasn’t Kate pissed off about how Meghan supposedly went cross-ways with her about something related to Charlotte, with tears being shed? Kate is all vinegar and competition, trust me.