I’ve said this before, and I’ll say it again. I don’t think Karlie Kloss is “responsible” for all of the despicable things her brother-in-law and sister-in-law do and say. But I absolutely feel like Karlie doesn’t say or do enough to make up for the fact that she married into the Kushner family more than willingly and that she socializes with Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump. It’s a fine line – it’s not “Karlie’s fault” that Ivanka got her daddy to tear-gas kids outside of the White House. But if I was in any way associated with the Kushners, I would make it my life’s mission to disassociate myself from them and stand up for what’s right very, very vocally. But Karlie is happy enough to play all sides and simper and preen away all justified criticism of the Kushners. So, Karlie posted this on Instagram:
That is… not enough for a public figure, a white celebrity who is married into the Kushner family, a family which tear-gassed, flash-banged and brutalized peaceful protesters JUST THIS WEEK so an authoritarian dictator could have a photo-op at a church. Someone needed to call Karlie out. And that person was Tavi Gevinson, the fashion writer/editor. Tavi commented on Karlie’s post with this:
Tavi Gevinson is taking NONE of Karlie Kloss’s bullshit armchair activism: pic.twitter.com/ypnec6zfDb
— Ξvan Ross Katz (@evanrosskatz) June 3, 2020
*giggles* This was good. Good for Tavi. She also had words for Derek Blasberg, who is something like a Truman Capote society figure and friends with all of the white supremacist society “swans.” Blasberg is friends with Ivanka, Karlie, Gwyneth and everybody else.
@tavitulle chimes in with the truth 👍🏼 pic.twitter.com/k0zajUyrul
— The Mastodon (@themastodonclub) June 3, 2020
Tavi Gevinson, everyday hero.
Photos courtesy of Instagram, WENN, Backgrid and Avalon Red.
I agree she is not responsible for Ivanka or Orange Voldemort, but she doesn’t take the distance from them.
She knew who they were when she married into the family. She is fine with it.
I’ve always felt that Karlie shouldn’t have to answer for what her in-laws do. Many people have awful in-laws.
But I totally agree with Tavi here. Very well stated. Karlie hasn’t done nearly enough to truly distance herself from them and be loud about her own beliefs.
Can she answer for what her husband does? There’s OSCAR and Thrive Capital. Her husband co-founded the former and owns the latter. According to financial-disclosure forms released by Jared Kushner and his wife, Ivanka Trump, covering the year 2018, the couple owned and received profit from shares of Thrive. Obviously the brothers do business together. Her husband undeniably has major access to the Trump Administration. Her in-laws are awful, yet her husband is profiting from his awful brother and sister-in-law. Do we further argue that is her husband and not her? So she should not be held responsible for what her husband does? Honestly wondering.
A lot of people on here didn’t think Hillary Clinton deserved any flack for sticking by Bill despite the multiple sexual assault allegations made against him, so if that’s the standard Karlie really shouldn’t be raked over the coals because of her in laws.
There is a hell of a difference between sexual assault allegations and profiting off of a pandemic. But you tried. Karlie is complicit and she needs to be called out at all times.
More like you missed the point.
@Ange
if anyone missed the point, it seems to be you.
a BUSINESS venture is a public, maritally discussed, shared-finances thing. a sexual assault/affair with a staffer is usually kept very private by the offending parties. I wouldn’t fault a man or woman who had the misfortune of marrying a sex-addict or sexual assaulter, or hold the spouse of an assaulter/ addict accountable for the unknown/hidden actions of their spouse. Karlie is more complicit because finances and familial ties are typically discussed within a marriage, whereas the wife of someone who has an affair or a commits a sexual assault in the workplace may not be privy to the situation.
basically, you can’t equate the two actions because they aren’t remotely the same.
The discussion is about condemning someone for choosing to be involved with vile people. You’re saying someone shouldn’t be criticised for sticking by a sex offender because rape isn’t as bad as mismanaging a pandemic. Lesser of two evils thinking has rotted your brain.
Thank you very much for all the replies. I appreciated all of them. @Ange, I did get what you’re trying to say. Yes, Karlie is complicit and she should have to answer for choosing to be involved with awfully vile people, as her husband is the same as Jared & Ivanka. (Or even worse? As he’s supposed to be a democrat, attends women’s marches yet does not hesitate to profit off a pandemic. Talk about hypocritical.) In the same way, Hillary should also be taken to task for not condemning Bill’s abuse of Monica when it was exposed. Whatever their motivations are/were, both women in different situations made conscious decisions to remain involved with questionable men.
@Ange
I appreciate your concern about my brain health, (lol). Also, I never said “someone shouldn’t be criticized for sticking by a sex offender”. you should re-read the actual words of my response instead of building straw men. And, to clarify, the discussion is about profiting from questionable people while pretending to distance yourself from them financially and morally.
I object to your statements because they are dangerous and untrue. You can’t say “a lot of people on here didn’t think Hilary Clinton deserved any flack” unless you’re willing to show evidence to back that claim up. you also shouldn’t claim someone’s brain is rotted when they disagree with you. it’s dangerous, unnecessary and doesn’t move the conversation along. to everyone else who has to read this rant, thanks for coming to my TedTalk lol
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I’m enjoying the fact that a lot of comments are calling her out on her hypocrisy with her 3/4 last post on Insta. She is married to a Kushner, who’s brother is actively participating in destroying Black, POC, LGBTQ+ and woman’s lives, but she pretends she is an ally – HOW
“Start by healing in your own family.” Well ain’t that rich? Is she trolling us? Because the disconnect here seems quite willful.
ETA: I didn’t know who Tavi is so I went to Twitter and it seems her account is suspended. Interesting…
Yes, the minute I read that line, I thought uh, are you really that clueless? I mean, c’mon!
Yup, that gave me a good laugh.
Yeah, that immediately made me compare it to Melania’s anti bullying campaign.
Ivanka and Jared arent as visible as they uses to be,i wonder if they have stepped back from their roles or have made a conscious decision to be seen less,i dont believe Ivanka knew her father truly was this bat shit crazy.
Ivanka was with her father at the church photo op the other night. She walked with him after they had tear gassed peaceful protesters. She knows exactly what her father is and she is with him all the way.
Yes, she was carrying “the Bible” that was used as a prop. She made news by pulling it out of her designer bag and handing it to the Insane One. It was probably her idea!
There’s an excellent article on Refinery 29 that everyone should read about the optics of Ivanka’s ‘look’ at the church. Truly chilling, Handmaid’s Tale shit.
Found it: https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2020/06/9850849/ivanka-trump-purse-church-photo-op-tear-gas
They have NOT stepped back at all. If anything, they have shoved more people out of the way. Jared was the one deciding which governor had kowtowed enough to get necessary PPE for their states as he was stealing it off loading docks and hoarding it. She has been running meetings, pulling outsiders into the White House for photo ops, without masks or social distancing daily for the last two months. Trump does nothing without her full approval. And she is as crazy, if not more, than he is.
Ivanka had the idea to sweep those protesters away from the streets so that daddy führer could take a Hitler-inspired photo in front of that church! That all mess was started by Ivanka, ffs! And then she gloated and felt very proud of herself, acording to WH aids.
People must realize how dangerous she and her husband are.
I agree. The whole damn family is dangerous, and they are all liars! You cannot believe anything that comes out of any of their mouths.
Ivanka was carrying the Bible prop in her designer bag on the walk to the church just after daddy had peaceful protesters tear gassed. Her surgically enhanced face may not be as gruesome to look at as trump’s but she is just as evil.
Ivanka=Eva Braun Madam Mao.
Of course she knows… You’ve got to be kidding if you think otherwise!
When I was in my 20s, I lived in DC and dated a few sons of very prominent GOP Senators. One of the relationships got serious – like the guy was thinking we were going to spend the rest of our lives together. I ended it because I knew I couldn’t spend a lifetime bridging his father’s views and my own sense of right/wrong. I would be out in the streets Jane Fonda style. It would have made for a VERY unhappy family life.
True story, John Warner (Republican Senator for VA for decades) was married to a woman who really did go out in the streets Jane Fonda style protesting some of the policies he was advocating. No – his son was not the guy I was talking about above.
Karlie can’t have it both ways. The fact that she thinks she can is the height of privilege.
Honestly, I don’t understand how people can be married to people they disagree with on politics – especially topic such as Human rights ?
Last Christmas, I spend 1 day alone with my grandmother who started saying racist things about Syrian refugees in her little town. I argued with her for 1 hour. I haven’t seen her since because of distance, but I was really disappointed – as she herself married an immigrant (a white one, I guess that makes it ok in her mind). I can’t even immagine doing this with my partner
Right?! Especially right now when one party is very clearly telling us exactly who they are. I live in one of the states that voted Tuesday and we didn’t apply for a mail in but I told my husband we are going and wearing our masks and if he doesn’t were getting a divorce. It was actually super easy, no lines, and felt very safe with no touch for everything, not like other places I read about. The poll workers all wore masks and some wore gloves too which surprised me considering where I live.
Josh, the other Kushner brother, seems to be socially left-leaning. He was at the women’s rights march back in 2017 and seems to have Democratic leanings. So in Karlie’s case, it’s more her in-laws having a different ideology. I think she and her husband see eye-to-eye.
Her husband is part of a company profiting off the pandemic. They are as complicit as governmenting Barbie and her vampire husband.
Her husband is a democrat.
I’ve been a fan of Tavi ever since she was a teeny tiny young girl. Now she’s a kickass woman and I continue to STAN.
Just remember, a public shaming in the midst of a beautiful, rich, white privileged life is nothing compared to being hurt, killed and oppressed for generations by pervasive racism. Take it like a man, Karlie. “Always remember to put other’s needs above your own fears.” (MM)
That quote jumped out at me, too. I’m going to try to make it my personal mantra.
So many thoughts.
1. Shut up Karlie, you knowingly married into a corrupt family that has been screwing people over for decades with their shady business deals. No one cares if you married the “nice” brother.
2. Fun fact: Ivanka and Jared only married because no one else wanted them. Both the Kushners and Trumps have tried for decades to integrate themselves into the upper echelon of East coast high society BUT no one of worth wanted to be involved with either family. Trump attempted in vain to marry daughter-wife off to a famous actor, athlete, musician, etc. NO ONE WANTED HER. So they went with The Boy.
I find this so easy to believe Sean.
I do as well
The gall to post about “healing it in your own family” when her family includes Jared and Ivanka is unreal.
Derek Blasberg’s comment, “I’d like to think I don’t have an neo fascist friends” is exactly what is wrong in this world in my opinion.
Pretending is just amplifying the evil by 1000%. My view is this — It’s not just that so many people are enabling the fascism for financial gain (although that in and if tself is horrific) – it’s that they are pretending that they’re not. And that pretending, that covering up, is really the root of evil.
Yes yes yes! I love all of this. I don’t know who that second guy is, but since he was at the inauguration with WENDY DENG and as Ivanka’s guest, YES!
As for Kloss, I can’t even talk here because everyone says, oh you can’t help who you love it’s not her fault. Yes it damn is! Sorry, the second she married this creep, and people, he’s a creep, JUST LIKE HIS BROTHER AND HIS FATHER, she became someone I wouldn’t cross the street to give water to.
Re: Derek’s response to Tavi
Celebrities/Public Figures calling ANY criticism that come their way “trolling” pisses me off.
Genuine criticism is NOT Trolling.
Brushing it off as such just shows how up your own a$s you are.
I remember when folks were happy with the behind the scenes narrative that Karlie was the right one in their supposed rift.
Folks we all Team Karli. Lol…okay.
Tavi is a treasure been following her since the Style Rookie days.
She only gets to post of she attends the protests and speaks out against the policies and brutalities of the family she married into. If she doesn’t want to do that, she should just keep her head down
Karlie’s response wouldn’t be quite so egregious if it wasn’t all about starting within your own family. Like… is that supposed to hint that she’s actually having those conversations with the Kushners and Trumps? Or did she not even make the connection before posting?
Oh, and when someone uses the phrase “I like to think I…” they believe they’re politely disagreeing. When, in fact, they’re saying “I’m not going to actually examine or consider what you’ve said at all”. Otherwise it would be “I know I don’t…”
Tavi’s from the Chicago suburb of Oak Park. She gets it. Always has.
Derek reminds me a bit of Andre Leon Talley, after reading his book – a life devoted to vapid, superficial people just to gain access, but in the end, it’s a hollow existence.
Yep!
Derek’s & Katlie’s BFF is Wendi Deng, the most shameless social climber ever.
“Tell me who your friends are, as it says everything about you.”
Wendi Deng is a criminal and a psychopath and I believe that that’s why she and Complicity Barbie get along so well. Birds of a feather…
The minute she married into this family, Karlie should have had the self awareness to know they starting now she would have to sit this one out….on everything.
And I will never forgive her for having me reassess what went down with her and Swift. I really think now that it was Karlie’s engagement that ended it. Swift was in all their vicinity, heard words and was like, ‘ I’m done’.
I think Taylor ended the friendship too. Taylor was late to the game when it came to speaking out but knew better than to stay friends with Karlie and the Kushners.
Listen, I’m sorry, but she doesn’t get to marry a Kushner and get any benefit of any doubt. She’s done as far as I’m concerned. We are just now, right this minute, seeing a huge struggle between the Pentagon and Trump, and people, if he wins, democracy is over.
I would NEVER marry into this trash family, and anyone who does marry into it, is trash too. Period! And she is trash. My god you can’t tell from her snobby, sneering face? She’s a Kushner now, thru and thru. She’s part of a criminal family that is actively attempting to murder POC and end democracy.
Stop this. She gets nothing. Nothing. Not even water in a desert. And how DARE she make that post. How dare she.
Kushner’s putrid family have destroyed SCORES of Black folks lives being racist mega landlords…she can miss the UNIVERSE with that gaslighting
Derek & Karlie are both from St. Louis, one of the most segregated and racist cities.
Derek grew up in a very very working-class, overwhelmingly white area.
Karlie’s dad is a physician, she belonged to the local country club.
They are both social climbers, obsessed with money and FAKE.
If I had that kind of link/access to Javanka, I’d be trolling them all day every day with every fiber of my being.
Nope, Karlie is directly profiting from this administration. When covid first started spreading In the US our government turned away tests from WHO and instead gave a contract to a company started by her husband. She is not just tangentially connected to these people, she directly profits from them and I will keep shouting this at the top of my lungs whenever someone tries to give this privileged twat a pass.
Ok, kudos for calling out Blasberg & Kloss, but I’m going to need to see some receipts on how Tavi taking a free Kushner apartment to “influencer it” is no longer a problem. Like, did she donate an equal amount of money to BLM or ActBlue?
https://www.thecut.com/2018/06/rookie-founder-tavi-gevinson-ends-sponsorship-with-apartment.html
Urgh, mixed up apartments, please ignore.
Karlie is married to the mob. She doesn’t care where the sweet cash comes from (human trafficking, drugs, money laundering, treason)… She just wants to keep swimming in it. These kinds of people don’t care about politics, and they don’t care about their fellow citizens.
Omg, that’s the best comparison. Karen Kloss, if you are ‘married to the mob’ you don’t get to talk about crime!
Two call outs in one day. Wow. First Lea Michele and now Karlie Kloss.
I remember when Tavi was a blogger and to me she is still just a blogger. Moving on nothing to see here
Well Sarah god forbid anyone damage the facade of Karlie Kloss Kushner . . . Wow.
Derek Blasberg and Karlie Kloss want the privileges of being associated with Trump without confronting any of the drawbacks. Happy to post for a trend, nowhere when it comes to action. Benefiting as much as they can from this hideous fascist regime.
Sorry if I sound upset, I have seen a lot of police brutality the last few days and I’m really angry.
Wow her post is such a dumb move-‘start within your own family’
Jesus does she have zero self awareness?
I think she didn’t even read that, but her publicist thought it was a good idea.
“Start by your own family”… THE NERVE!