The Duchess of Sussex’s close friend did something terrible. Jessica Mulroney has always been pretty loyal to Meghan, ever since they became friends when Meghan lived in Toronto to film Suits. And personally, I don’t think Jessica’s current racist sh-tshow has anything to do with Meghan, in that Meghan is not responsible for Jessica’s actions, nor do I expect Meghan to “issue statements” about Jessica or their friendship. I’m not here to police Meghan’s friendships or how Meghan deals with Jessica’s racist drama. It’s my hope that Sasha Exeter and Jessica Mulroney BOTH leave Meghan’s name out of their mouths, even though both of them have already made allusions to Meg. Jessica used Meghan as a shield, trying the “but I have a black friend” defense to excuse her own inexcusable behavior. But, as I said, what Meghan does or does not do is her business and not ours. I know for damn sure Meghan isn’t speaking to the Daily Mail, or authorizing a ”friend” to do so. But still, here you go:
Meghan Markle is ‘absolutely mortified’ with best friend Jessica Mulroney’s ‘tone-deaf’ threats to sue a black influencer and can ‘no longer be associated with her’, close friends of the Duchess of Sussex tell DailyMail.com exclusively.
‘Meghan is absolutely mortified that she’s been dragged into this complete mess. She said Jessica is in no way a racist, but the way she handled the situation (with the fashion influencer) was tone-deaf and heartbreaking,’ a close friend of Meghan’s said. ‘Meghan said friends reflect friends and because of what’s at stake she can no longer be associated with Jessica, at least not in public. She has to do what she has to do in order to preserve her dignity and her own reputation.’
The scandal brings intense embarrassment to Meghan who devoted her brief time as a royal to promoting social good and is a life-long racial equality activist. The source added that they ‘wouldn’t be surprised’ if this marked the ‘beginning of the end of their friendship’.
They also said that Meghan cannot publicly defend Mulroney in this case or help salvage her career.
‘It’s not like Meghan can just call up ABC and defend Jessica,’ the source said. ‘There was a reason Meghan waited to so long to make a statement. She wanted to get it right. She said she urged Jessica to do the same thing from the get-go.’
Yeah. Again, Meghan and her friends aren’t talking to the Daily Mail. Call me when People Magazine’s “sources” have some info about how Meghan is feeling about this, maybe I’ll believe that. I doubt Meghan will make any public moves in support of Jessica, but my guess is that Meghan is still talking to Jessica privately and trying to help Jessica understand the depth of her wrongness and how to make changes. Whether or not Jessica is really listening… well…
Photos courtesy of Getty.
One of my best friends revealed themselves as horribly homophobic a few months ago and I was devastated. It really shakes you to your core, that someone you trusted and thought was wonderful could think and act so terribly. You wonder how you didn’t know.
I’m sure Meghan is distraught.
@belli – I’m sorry about your friend. That must have been awful.
@GD Thank you. I hope she has it within her to truly change, but it was very upsetting and still is.
Especially in this case where most of Canada knew what she and her husband were like.
Meghan absolutely shouldn’t be expected to give a statement about this or shoulder the blame for her friend’s actions here – but Jessica’s antics weren’t a secret to anyone.
I’m sure Meghan was horrified at Jess’ comments but, like @Ash said, Canadians have known for a while what Jess and Ben (and the rest of the Mulroney clan) are like, so this isn’t a huge shocker. The family is awful, vile — criminals filled with entitlement (stealing millions from Canadians!) and hugely up their own asses.
@ASH I’m from Toronto and my mid-30s but I dont personally remember the Mulroney government.
I only know of Ben and Jessica and I haven’t heard anything negative about them.
But I never cared for them.
Brian Mulroney was a pretty shit PM so I assume Ben grew up with shit values but… honestly, I don’t really know anything else about them. And I don’t know anything about the Browns – Jessica’s family.
I was around for Brian Mulrouney’s tenure. he was a crap PM and his daughter is a crappy MPP who pushes a right wing agenda. She ran for head of the provinicial party based on her name only as she has limited experience. Ben is known in the Canadian tv industry as getting his job thru daddy. He is stiff after all these years . Jessica is known for her attitude. She had to have gotten her job (on the same network as Ben in which his dad is on the Board Of Directors) thru the Mulrouney connections.
If this was my best friend, I would be very disappointed and shocked but I wouldn’t cut her off. I would also be concerned for her because public shaming – even when it’s deserved, as this is – must be a truly awful experience. It’s possible to be disappointed in your friends while still having compassion for them. It’s not that easy to cut people out of our life if you truly love and care for them.
It’s never easy, you want to believe the best in them even after something like that, but unfortunately sometimes it is necessary to cut someone out and doing so doesn’t necessarily mean a lack of compassion. It’s always going to be difficult. There are different dynamics when this is all happening in the public eye, obviously that will make it even more so.
I think there comes a point in time where you look at the people in your life and ask yourself whether they represent your values.
I had a very close friend from college just like JM. She grew up privileged, thought she was better than everyone else (and said so often out loud), and would bully her significant other (a POC). But she was very generous with me. I realized she didn’t represent who I am and what I want my life to be about. It’s not ok to bully and be condescending to other people because you won the genetic lottery and were born into a (white) wealthy family.
I cut her off 10 years ago. It sucked but I didn’t want to be associated with that behavior.
But everyone needs to do their own cost/benefit analysis and I’m sure MM will go through a similar thought process here.
I have had to distance myself from several friends after they made racist comments and it really sucks. I hope your friend can change. Remember the entire country change about same-sex marriage in just under a generation which was incredibly fast by historical standards. There is hope, people can change.
This happened to me during training to be a counselling psychologist. This great woman who I really like relaxed enough to say she felt God would never have created gay people it was due to broken families.
We considered it, wrote a letter and after a lot of hassle had her removed from the course.
She was so nice but really a pos underneath and wanting to work with vulnerable people.
She is now a counsellor at a school ( screams face)
I’m in that position too with a close, long term friend who is racist and anti-semitic who since Brexit has been v open about her negative and narrow minded view of the world around her.
She has a negative view of people not from the UK and Jews but refuses to accept that makes her racists and anti-semitic. I have lost count the times I have told her that having a negative view of someone because of the colour of their skin, the country they come from, whether they are an immigrant/refugee or what religion they are makes her racist. Her counter argument is that she can’t be racist as her father comes from the Middle East.
Needless to say I decided she was not worth the effort to try and educate so have cut ties with her. There are other reasons why I cut her out of my life, mainly how she behaved when my mother passed earlier in the year – she is a total narcissist.
There’s only so many conversations you can have with people like that. If they’re receptive to change, that’s a different thing entirely. But for those who are not – it’s nobody else’s job to educate someone who doesn’t want to change, and I think cutting and running is probably the best thing you can do at that point.
The interesting hing about being a “hidden minority” (Jewish) is that people are comfortable enough to indict themselves right in front of you. It often makes it easier to know who’s a POS. That said, there are a lot of people that have shocked me showing their colors in their behavior/posting on social media – mostly the sweet & amiable white women who don’t like to “get political” but then share Candace Owens’ take on the protests and/or a Black person talking about how they should focus on the path of their religion and not about all that talk “of this world” which sparks disagreement and is of Satan – which justifies their inaction to the injustice of racism
@DigitalUnicorn You need to cut her off. She’ll never, ever change.
@PottyMouthPup I’ve had this myself. Round at a friend’s for drinks one evening; her partner referred to Jews as K—es even when I said to him: ‘you know I’m Jewish, right?’ ‘Oh, yes, but — ’ and then went on a whole money-spiel.
These people have absolutely no shame. They cannot be redeemed.
Jessica is known to be a crappy person. This isn’t Meghan’s responsibility, but I do wonder why she is friends with this woman. Even if Jessica has always been nice to her, if you’re that close to someone who is willing to tear others down for no damn reason, that’s something you pick up on at some point.
Maybe Meghan has a bad picker since her Dad and parts of her family suck? Or maybe she liked the connections that Jessica could help her to make in Toronto.
The rumours were that when she came to Toronto, Meghan wanted in to Toronto society, but nobody wanted her except Jessica, and that was because nobody in Toronto society much liked Jessica either. So they had each other, and I’d bet – as any group of friends does – they enjoyed talking about the people that rejected them and how one day they’d show them. I imagine for Meghan that that was a very specific world she was living in, and a bond with Jessica.
I do wonder how her extreme life change and experiences as a result of it have impacted her friendship and view of Jessica. As Lainey said today, Jessica uses her relationship with Meghan in very strategic ways, and her career has exploded in line with Meghan and Harry’s relationship. Meghan must have noticed that, and from her new perspective it probably (I would hope) makes her look at Jessica in a different light.
If Jessica is “known to be a crappy person” then why hasn’t it come out before? A lot of people seemed shocked that she attacked Sasha and threatened her. There are plenty of husbands, wives, siblings and parents who live in the same home with people and are shocked to find out they have a double life and act in ways that are contrary to how they normally behave. Just because I know someone at work and like them doesn’t mean I know how they behave at home. And how do you know that Jessica didn’t pursue the relationship with Meghan? Some people like to attach themselves to any type of celebrity major or minor.
@shazbot Toronto society? No offense to Toronto but why would Meghan be desperate to be a part of that? She’s from LA, had a husband and home in LA and as far as I can see, Meghan was more interested in the international scene with her work with the UN and USO. I think Jessica was just someone she met and became friends and hung out with. I don’t think Meghan was looking to be doyenne of Toronto.
My closest friend in college was an overt anti-Semite. She did a one-eighty thirty years later when her daughter married a Jewish man.
This is such a “Well duh!” article. Literally any of us could have written this. In fact people were saying similar things on Friday.
As I’ve said before, this isn’t Meghan’s issue to deal with. It’s Jessica and Sasha’s therefore they are the ones who are going to handle it. Neither of them should be bringing Meghan into it.
Personally, if I was Meghan I wouldn’t make a statement because like I said, she did not chose to voluntarily involve herself. But if she does then I hope it’s because she wants to make it and not because she’s been pressured to by people
I bet some of the DM “reporters” check out of the comments here for story ideas all the time. They just add a negative spin to it.
Jessica is so thirsty. I will never forget how she tried to pull a ‘Pippa’ at Meghan’s wedding. But no, I don’t be that anyone from camp Sussex is talking to the DM
Funny you would say that but I didn’t notice that.
Jessica has spent good money to look great.
Why not be proud of it?
Well JM came off as try hard. I am sorry to say but her plastic surgery to her face made and still makes her look off-putting.
Pippa back then wore some kind of body suit but she was still young enough so that her face looked natural. I suppose this will change in the coming years.
Jessica has spent wads of money on fake everything from her butt to her teeth. She’s silicone from the knees up. She looked like an expensive hooker at Meghan’s wedding and had so much make-up on it’s a wonder her face didn’t sag. She’s as thirsty as a popcorn fart and Meghan is better off without her friendship.
She definitely tried for a Pippa moment, but it didn’t take.
Re: her spending good money to look great. She has definitely spent money, but as I keep seeing pictures of her with all these stories, she definitely looked way better before she started messing with her face. She was quite cute.
The misogyny isn’t necessary. Everything was already covered before someone had to make it about sex.
Yeah I remember that dress being too tight. It’s forgivable for a young single woman in her twenties, even tho I rolled my eyes a little at it at the time. It’s a little much for a woman with three or four kids in her mid-30s.
Its a really dicey situation and the DM will milk this dry…!!!!
I don’t know wether this Jessica person is necessarily racist, but looks for sure elitist, fake, petty, selfish, revengeful ass… In fact when I first saw her , I thought: What an unpleasant and punchable face, no way it’s a good person 🙂
Honestly I judge Meghan a little for this friendship, can you be closest friends with someone for years and never notice how rotten she is ?… I’m sure this bizarre Instagram feud is not the worst thing she’s ever done or said…
Yes you can. It has happened to me regarding relatives. I have recently discovered how racists some of them are. I had no clue before. I know people like to blame Meghan for everything but she is not at fault for this. Jessica is.
@LANA86 You think less of Meghan but no mention of Jessica’s husband Ben?
The one who is married to her?
If you think you know what’s going on in the head of your friends then you have some things to learn.
People are literally friends with serial killers and never know it.
She’s not at fault for Jessica’s actions, absolutely. But not casting blame is different from questioning how she couldn’t know what Jessica was like. Even if no one knew the specific fact that Jessica was racist, the comments in the post the other day made it *very* clear how widely everyone knew that she (and her family) are terrible on many, many other points.
Surely no one can be that clueless to something that is so obvious to – perhaps literally, in this case – half a country.
As far as I’m aware, no one on here actually knows Jessica Mulroney personally. So even if the Mulroneys are generally awful, and Jessica’s FIL was a corrupt PM – why would Meghan hold that against Jessica? She doesn’t hold Harry’s family against him, and she (M) doesn’t want her family held against her.
Meghan and Jessica never worked together as far as I’m aware so I’m assuming Jessica behaved differently around her.
Same. I was talking about how a guy at work referred to our janitorial crew in a crude manner and my cousin was in total agreement with the prick. I was shocked to my core.
Really @Lana86? I can’t believe a person that sees a stranger for the first time and the first thought to come to your mind is how good it would feel to harm the stranger. 😱😱😱😱SMH, mind boggling. No wonder you judgey too
@lana86. I think Meghan’s influence was probably good for Jessica. Before M was super famous, she probably inspired Jess to be her best self. Now Meghan is world famous. Jess probably has her own tendencies to be elitist, coupled with the influence of her married into family. Add in some innate thirstiness, compounded by the new attention she has been getting and voila. I think Jessica is a bit spoiled, quite entitled, and very classist. I think she is racist adjacent. I think she would have behaved similarly regardless. So to a certain degree she probably thinks she is not racist. She has probably never been called out on her attitudes…imagine she thinks if you aren’t kkk then you are not racist. Strange that she recognized racism toward M, but not her own. She is probably like a lot of overly privileged people. Justifiably called out.
Tracy Moore of Cityline who happens to be black, wrote about how Jessica was very helpful to her in trying to start her business and that she was only ever nice to her and always went above and beyond. She was disappointed and surprised at the behaviour. So Jessica showed different sides to different people.
@Nic919 I saw that post from Tracy as well. While I definitely judged Meghan at first for being friends with her, Tracy’s post put it in perspective. It seems like she can be an amazing ride or die friend to people she likes (she basically introduced Meghan into Toronto society/elite) and a horrible classist and even racist person to people she doesnt like or is threatened by. I dont think its as simple as Jessica was a ranging horrible person to everyone and theres no way Meghan didnt know, etc. etc. Its probably more complex than that.
I’m with you completely on that. I get people finding out many years down the line that their friend has views you don’t agree with but it doesn’t sit right with me that so many people were saying from the start that Jessica AND HER HUSBAND were an issue. They were of course shot down in flames by the Meghan fanatics but if they could see it, then surely Meghan could too
After all, we aren’t talking some distant friend. We are talking about the woman who’s children rode in the car with Meghan on the way to church when she got married. The woman who Meghan left Archie with when she returned to England. They were supposedly super close.
What Jessica did wasn’t Meghan’s fault and she doesn’t have to do anything about it but it does make you wonder why she was happy to be such good friends with her. There are so many very true sayings about the company you keep.
You’re repeating debunked tabloid/m*gxiter claims (Archie was not left with Mulroneys in Canada), you’re talking about “Meghan fanatics”, and you sound like Trump in that last comment of yours. Talks like a moron, embraces tabloid narratives…sounds like you’re mugxit trash to me.
@Beach Dreams
It says a lot about your character that you cannot state your point in a post without resorting to insults. Shameful really.
@Linda: Maybe for once you should just STFU instead of constantly acting holier-than-thou in posts about Meghan. You always have something to say about other commenters who call out people like Lundi. You’re also as quiet as a mouse when people insult Meghan but quick to cry at the slightest criticism of Kate. That says a LOT about YOU.
The kids didn’t ride in the car with Meghan to the church. Only her mom and the car’s driver were in the car with Meghan. The kids rode in separate cars with their moms (Kate being one of them to wrangle Charlotte and George).
Thank you, Beach Dreams. Her shi* is just tiresome and if she comes back pulling that “I hardly ever comment” crap again, I’ll remind @Linda right here that it’s the content and quality of her comments that are routinely offensive and biased. And, yes, @Lundi/Linda sounds like a troll. No coincidence that you never see either name criticizing Keen, Willie, Pedo Andy or the other royals.
Linda posts all the time in the Meghan and Kate posts. And is always super predictable.
Always concern trolling or just outright trolling. That Ali person too.
@Beach Dreams
Oh poor baby did I hit a nerve?
@Olenna
Why on earth should I lie that I hardly ever comment? Are you going bitch slap me over the internet if and when I choose to comment? You all claim to love black women but in reality the only black woman you support is Meghan. Look at how quick you are in slamming the real victim in this scenario which is Sasha and second guessing her intentions. Your hypocrisy stinks.
@Linda: Nope (is that the best response you can come up with btw? lol), but @Olenna certainly hit a nerve for you. Thanks for confirming that you’re bitter about people supporting Meghan! It’s good to be honest instead of acting like you’re above it all, isn’t it?
You want a refresher on hypocrisy, @Linda?
Here:
https://www.celebitchy.com/656817/the_duke_duchess_of_sussex_focus_on_mental_health_during_the_pandemic/
Most importantly I believe we all need to remember is Love is Blind. When you love someone really truly, you only want to see the best even when you may get glimpses of their other sides. That is the definition of unconditional love. It doesn’t just happen between lovers or parental attachment. It happens between friends. I’m sure everyone that reads this blog can relate so let’s try to not overthink but use empathy instead.
LOL, of course no one from Meghan’s camp is talking to the Daily Mail. But i’m sure Meghan is mortified and upset and I’m sure there are some interesting talks going on right now.
I wonder if this DM article’s sources is actually the viper’s nest of courtiers trying to send a message to Meghan about their expectations of her and how she handles this.
One of my really good friends is a Daily Fail-following, Meghan-hating person. She’s ignorant that the ‘news’ in the Fail is fake. I love her but am disappointed that’s she’s not interested in the back story. She believes all the Cambridge stuff. She’s a 60 year old Kate Stan. Oh, well. I love her anyway.
DF is happily milking this stick to beat Meghan with.
Of cause it’s made up sh*t. Since Harry and Meghan have moved out of the UK to Canada and now to LA, the DF’s US branch is trying to convince the public that their US reporters have close contacts with Meghan’s friends or people who know them. Everyone with 2 brain cells would know that those stories and those imaginary contacts are total fabrications. Any real friends of Meghan (and Harry by extension) know which tabloid/media org. Meghan is suing regarding the publication of the letter to her father, and about their statement to – not in any form or shape – ever talk to the (4) British tabloids again, other than through their lawyers.
So any article from the DF’s UK or US reporters, or any other British tabloid written on the basis of ‘close friends of H/M’ or ‘sources close to H/M’, must be taken with a heap of salt. We should stop giving these trash unprofessional reporting/reporters any attention.
That said…
Yesterday Liza Minnelli personally called out that other horrible tabloid, ‘The Scum’ for their next trashy fabricated ‘exclusive’ ”Harry in LA” story: She sad: ”…I have never met Prince Harry and Meghan. Any statement to the contrary is a complete fabrication”.
So there you go. Hope that more people these horrible British media/RRs, etc. are trying to link to Harry and Meghan, in the most silly ways, would speak up and call them out.
Omid Scobie had a tweet about Liza Minnelli calling out the Sun. It’s hysterical😂😂
Why is it bringing embarrassment to Meghan? SHE didn’t do anything wrong. But the Fail like some commentators cast aspersions on Meghan because of a third party’s behaviour. Very common phenomenon for people of colour sadly. I like this take on it https://www.refinery29.com/amp/en-ca/2020/06/9862956/sasha-exeter-jessica-mulroney-are-not-having-a-disagreement?__twitter_impression=true
As for whether Meghan would know about Jessica’s Karen tendencies- I wonder if Amy Cooper’s associates were shocked by her as she claims to be a trump hating Liberal just like Emily Giffin & those types can be good at keeping their inner Karen concealed in polite company/ until they are in a situation where their white fragility is threatened. From Tracy Moore’s Insta post on this – Jessica has been a good friend to her (a black woman) and she said that’s what makes her behaviour hard.
I like how it pointed out how situations like this get watered down to a matter of disagreement/criticism/squabble, etc. It’s something we all could be careful about when discussing examples of racist, homophobic, misogynistic, or transphobic behavior:
‘I didn’t realize bigotry was up for debate. Words matter. Language is important. Referring to what Mulroney did as “disagreement” or an “argument” puts some of the onus on Exeter, the victim. A “dispute” involves multiple parties. An “argument” is when two people go to blows. When Mulroney was attempting to backtrack in one of her many apologies, she said, “We had a disagreement and it got out of hand.” That downplays what really happened.’
Erratic behavior and using false allegations as weapons wasn’t out of character for Amy Cooper. She destroyed at least one man’s career previously. I have no idea if this was out of character for Jessica, but from the comments here I gather that it is fairly typical.
Sasha Exeter did state that she doesn’t believe that Jessica Mulroney is a racist, but that she is “cloaked in her white privilege”.
I tend to believe that this is true. However, ignorance is NEVER an excuse, and it certainly doesn’t give her a pass. Thankfully, CTV felt the same way.
While I do think that Meghan is likely shocked and rather disgusted by this news, I think that she will turn it into a teachable moment for her friend. I mean, the “I have a black friend” reference has already been removed. So yeah, I think they’re talking.
Ughhhhhhhhhh.
Could ‘sources’ be Penis with Teeth and Wiglet, desperately trying to pedal back their tonedeaf responses to the Tatler article?
Meghan knows who she has around her. That’s two people in her circle that she’s chosen for her life that have shown themselves to be…racially insensitive (lol). I mean the way some in this thread have described Jessica’s family is the way some have described Meghan’s husband’s family. I don’t know the authenticity of her friendships but I do recognize a woman with a plan and in the circles she wants to be around a little light racism is to be expected.
From what I’ve read, MM trusts this woman with her child so they’ll be fine.
Didn’t Prince George’s godfather do blackface? Along with Kate’s stylist? And didn’t Kate’s friend “joke” about killing immigrants? One of those people is the godfather to the future future future King yet I don’t see anyone questioning that Kate should expect “light racism” in her circle because she actually was a woman with a plan (marry the future future King)
Weird.
Is Kate a biracial woman perceived as black? I’m confused. lol. MM is an American biracial woman who intentionally associates with a class of people that has historically shown themselves to be racist. Why tf would her expectation be that it’d be Bennington ad? MM is too savvy for that and I’ve no doubt she’s navigated those spaces understanding who and what she’s around. Mama moves with intent. I’m not mad at it, but I also am not clutching my pearls that her friends may be bigoted. Megan is THE Black friend in her circle. lol.
Isn’t it weird, Sofia? I mean…you don’t hear any of these people questioning the Cambridges circle of friends or calling into question their character based on their friends’ actions. Wonder what makes this situation different for Meghan.
But Kate and her husband talk about how bad racism is so I think they should be called out when they have racist friends.
The entire tone of your comment is the classic “Meghan is a social climber who is calculated and knows everything” instead of giving her the benefit of the doubt that her friends showed her one aspect of her personality instead of another, while William and Kate get excuses after excuses excusing their shitty behaviour as “how should they have known!?!?!?!?!”
This isnt on Meghan, but if you mix in elite circles this behaviour would be commonplace.
It was only ten years ago that Harry called his army friend ‘my little p*ki friend’, and also told a black comedian that he ‘didnt sound like a black chap’.
Elite people are generally not good people. They all probably think as long as you are actively not physically harming people then it isnt racism. Even to believe that the British Empire was actually a good positive thing is racist, and we know that ALL of the royal family do think this or they wouldnt actively prop up the institution.
I am black, with white friends, work in a primarily white environment. It’s a mind field. Everyday involves careful navigation. I understand Megan’s predicament. I had a close white friend who when discussing her parent’s search for a Florida condo casually mentioned they found one they like but it was too Jewish. I looked at her and she said well you understand…It’s crazy. I understand that most white people who some degree of racist views, just like most men have some degree of sexist views. The tricky part is deciding how much is too much. I don’t doubt that Jessica was personally a good friend to Megan. Tough choice.
No, just no. What you’re doing is trying to shame her as a black woman for having white friends. “Meghan is THE black friend in her circle, lol”. Yeah, I see what you’re doing. It’s what bothered black folks do to Black women, specificalky, dare to socialize outside of black only circles. Just say you think she’s a sellout who’s willing to put up, and secretly agrees with, with some racism for status and go.
Ma’am, I don’t care who other Black people, specifically BW, choose to socialize with; however, let’s call a duck a duck. She’s “THE BLACK FRIEND”. You hang with upper class old colonial money, you’re likely gonna be the only black person in the room and you’re gonna see casual racism. It is what it is. Only she can say how it’s manifested or whether that manifestation was too much for her, but as I said before, she trusts her child with Jessica so obviously she trusts her.
If I thought she was a sellout (lol), I would just say that. Who are y’all that I got to be secret about it?
I agree and commented as much on another post.
Meghan is NOT responsible for her friend’s or her husband’s actions, BUT she chooses to surround herself with these problematic people.
She’s very intelligent and I don’t believe she was blindsided by JM’s true character and Prince Harry’s past is well documented.
Meghan is, and by all accounts WANTS to be a role model. IMO she needs to make a strong statement through a credible source.
Meghan doesn’t need to do shit. You’re using TWO individuals to make the idiotic claim that she “surrounds herself with problematic people”. You have the gall to demand that she respond to a situation that has NOTHING to do with her while saying “well of course I don’t think she’s responsible for other people’s actions…” You’re doing exactly what the moronic tinhatters have been bleating since this situation began. Perhaps you’re one of them; certainly sounds like it by the asinine comments you’ve made.
So are you saying she should divorce her husband because of something he said ten years ago? Wow, hope your friends and family know what they have in store from you if you find out about something they said or did.
So what would you like her to do? Divorce her husband?
Has anyone ever suggested that Kate should divorce William because he had an Out of Africa party for his 21st party? Did he ever even get called out for the racist theme of that party? Or the actual racist comment he said when he said Africans shouldn’t have a lot of kids? Why is Meghan always blamed for the problematic racist behaviour of others?
Lol, if we’re honest, everybody is surrounded by people who have been problematic in some way, and everybody has been one of the problematic people someone is with. Even some of the comments here are problematic. People are holding her to a standard that they don’t want to be held to themselves when it comes to their significant others, friends, movements, and online communities. Can everyone really say none of those categories puts them close to someone who has dropped misogynistic slurs, used gay as an insult, or silenced/bullied/tone-policed any marginalized person for speaking out within the past 10 years?
BTW, some of us have had some discomfort and lingering suspicion about how eagerly Prince Harry was forgiven for the racist behavior he displayed as an educated twentysomething adult. Even before last year’s apology (which I believe is sincere) the forgiveness was already there. But it wasn’t something that could really be discussed without people making it about Meghan and adding to her abuse. People need to think about that before weaponizing the behavior of white adults and male adults against woc they don’t like. And it’s pretty gross how people are asking Meghan to perform for them like this.
Divorce her husband? No obviously not, she loves him and I’m sure he has worked on himself since then
All im saying is, all of these people will drop little casually racist things all the time, but they would never recognise it as actual racism. If you associate with these people you would probably learn to compartmentalise it.
A friend of mine who had been a captain in the British army did this all the time, he was quite posh and middle class (not at the royal family level, but compared to me he was), would chat about ‘r-g heads’, p-kis, he would recount racist jokes, talk about how the British empire improved the world etc. Was he my friend, yes. Did I grit my teeth sometimes, yes!
I’m also friends with his wife who is an Irish Catholic like me, fyi an Irish catholic will almost never date/marry/ associate with a British army person, its practically forbidden. However my friend is even more upper class so it’s nearly allowed. However even she must have had to grit her teeth sometimes at the way her husband talked about Irish Catholic culture, that we were ignorant savages before the British came and improved things. He even said it was an advantage that we spoke English now instead of Irish…. (fyi the British made it illegal for Irish people to speak their own language and killed people who were found to still use it), when we would point this out he would laugh as ‘it was so long ago’.
I repeat, this man is still my friend! He has a lot of great qualities or I’d not entertain him as a friend.
Sometimes you have to accept that people you like and are friends with are also shitty people.
It’s sad that Meghan we’ll be blamed for Jessica’s actions. Do people really think I biracial woman would tolerate racist behaviour from a friend? She probably knows Jessica is an asshole, but most likely didn’t expect this. But I can’t help think this is just another attempt to sabotage Meghan, especially after her black lives matter speech went down so well.
There’s one ‘Karen’ on twitter under omids thread that basically said meghan ‘was guilty by association’ of racism. When someone responded with receipts of Kate’s friends holding racist fancy dress parties their response was ‘she’s not responsible for what her friend did”. Can you believe the hypocrisy in the same damn thread.
If “friends reflect friends” wheres the outrage that the PedoPrince was friends with a sex offender?
MM is not responsible for the friends actions.
Exactly! The Queen is friends with the ruler of Dubai who’s kidnapped his own daughters!
Yet Meghan is expected to answer for her friend having beef with another woman. The standards for Meghan has always been unfair.
No way would M dump J. M is Godmother to her kids if I’m not mistaken. Just a good talk to a friend who has treated her like family.
We don’t know if she’s godmother. At all.
Jessica is Jewish so it’s unlikely she would be godmother in a Church of England ceremony.
I am not Canadian, but she seems a little weird to me. Jessica seems to look a lot like Meghan. Is this by design? What did she look like before she started messing with her face.
Also, as a Black woman that has A LOT of White friends, there is only so much you can do with your passively bigoted white friends. Sometimes you are considered a “good one”. What that means is that you hear a lot of passive racist comments and you keep it moving. Depending on your social and economic position, you just kind of hear it and move on. My personal position is that it’s not my job to educate you about race. There are several books out there who do a better analysis than I could ever do. That said, I will always do my best to answer any question when asked. Being Biracial, Meghan is clearly used to racism within her own family, but having a Black mother will have her identifying as a Black woman. She’s aware of her color privilege. But at a certain point you just have to compartmentalize and keep it moving.
Before Jessica messed with her face, she favored Ny Gov. Cuomo’s secretary Melissa DeRosa.
Google Jessica Brownstein 2008,or up to 2011. After that, she messed even more with her face.
I think she’s had butt, boobs and chin, cheeks and tan.
Not unlike many other “wives”, and probably as many other women in TV projects who is terrified of aging, and wants to be relevant in media.
I looked twice at her at the wedding, butI really did not know who she was, but then I went blah. The ones trying to make her a thing at the wedding were tabloids, Meghan ad Harry were not hacked by that unlike Pippa’s butt. I first found a reference here, upthread.
I won’t “cancel” prejudiced people who put in full effort to quietly evolve.
My mother-in-law just finished “White Fragility” and said, “I still don’t get the Kaepernick thing and think it was disrespectful, but I also think I just don’t understand.” So she picked up another book and asked her adopted Brown daughters to have a really honest conversation.
My best friend is White and has said some “shitty” jokes about my race. But she’s in my corner, listening and trying to be better.
If Messica shuts up, listens, learns, and shows changes through actions, I welcome her back.
It’s hard being Brown, but it’s also hard to admit prejudice and grow. My team always has open spots for people committed to listening and doing better.
Well at least Daily Mail wasn’t actively trying to blame Meghan for Jessica’s actions, so that’s one thing.
I don’t care either ways if Meghan chooses to stay friends with J or not, no one knows the ins and outs of their friendship.
I’ve had to cut out a lot of friends as I have gotten older and there’s also been some friends who I’ve had pretty bad fallings out with and we somehow managed to rebuild a friendship because the love was so strong.
It’s just sad that she gets blamed for everything and its very painful when you have falling out with friends over race.
Richard Palmer was in absolute glee hoping that if they break friends, J might spill the beans and affect M’s lawsuit with the Daily Mail. They really want her to be hurt and after what her dad and sister put her through, this is the last thing she needs.
I think it would be one thing for Jessica to have said dicey things that are potentially racist that she could learn from. It’s another thing entirely to threaten the woman’s livelihood with saying she would contact sponsors or sue her for libel. How do you continue a friendship with someone who’s a blatant bully?
guess it depends on if you think people can change if they are willing to put work in. Are there bullies who can evolve at that age& with privilege Jessica has grown up with? I genuinely don’t know. White, wealth AND class privilege is a hell of a drug.
I’m listening to a 2018 talk on race& privilege with Angela Davis& Jane Elliot& Jane has touched on this. Jane thinks that people aren’t too old to change.
I presume Prince Harry has been evolving if he’s able to discuss unconscious bias quite succinctly. Hopefully he knows his past comments to comic Stephen Amos was an example of that.
Jessica’s mistake was to do it publicly.
The BRF probably make private phone calls with veiled threats on a daily basis but they’re smart enough to never leave a single thing that could be traced back to them. Things have changed but Philip, Elizabeth and Charles probably picked up the phone quite a few times to protect Harry and Williams in the 1990s and 2000s.
Meghan absolutely has zero to do with this mess and can certainly handle it however she sees fit. My only issue here is while Meghan’s not responsible for the sh!t her dumb friend says, neither was Jennifer Anniston responsible for Chelsea Handler’s mouth. The only thing I don’t like here is some of the blatant double standards based on who the mob “likes” versus who the mob “doesn’t like.” Could we get some continuity up in here? LOL I’ve been reading this site for years and still trying to figure out exactly what Jennifer Anniston actually did to deserve the derision she receives here lol
And I feel bad for Meghan. It sucks when you realize a close friend has the capacity for this level of racism or any other ism. I know DM doesn’t have any link to Meg, but it’s nice to see they didn’t take this as an opportunity to drag her again. She’s actually being spoke of very kindly here, which kind of blew my mind.
Same here I was really suprised that they didn’t put the daggers in.
Mulroney probably threatened plenty of people in similar ways in the past. She was just stupid enough to do it to a single Black mother at the worst possible time.
She’s now associated with being a racist but it’s more about using her name, wealth and connections against someone else (she probably ruined more than her fair share of white women careers) than being a racist woman. People like the Mulroney will still talk to their powerful friends about a threat but they won’t send a DM to the victim to brag about how they will destroy their life.
Yep. THis also proves Jessica is NOT media savy at all!!!
What I like about this article in the Daily Mail (I believe that’s the first time I’ve ever said that phrase…) is it correctly frames what happened as Mulroney threatening a less powerful influencer over a perceived slight.
Too many news items mention a “dispute” or “spat” as though this is some petty dispute on both sides. I imagine that framing has less to do with an acknowledgement by the DM of the power disparity involved or fragile white privilege and more to do with tying this bad behaviour to Meghan.
The reality is that most adults become friends due to circumstances; career, school, romantic relationships opening up other friendship doors… And as an adult, you realize certain conversations aren’t polite or you keep topics light & shallow in an effort to preserve the friendship. It’s highly likely this side off Jessica never reared its ugly head around Meghan. Jessica seems the type to compartmentalize and leverage her relationships. She probably looked at Megan as a come up for her image. Biracial beautiful actress with Hollywood friends who wouldn’t outshine her own status. In one person she could claim to be worldly, accepting, “down” and a girl’s girl. I am positive Meghan is mortified but also hurt. In the end you have to accept people for who they are but can also make a choice to socially distance.
You are right, Lulu. Sociopaths can be very charming people. Meghan would have no way of knowing Jess’ character unless Meghan somehow triggered her, which didn’t happen. There are are serial killers who have been universally liked and pillars of their churches, communities, etc. Jess is not a serial killer, not trying to imply that, but let’s be clear that Meghan would have no way of knowing about this internalized classism and racism in Jess.
This is very real. I’ve had a ton of friends (one very dear to me, almost like a sister) who would either make ignorant comments from time to time or when certain situations came up, really showed themselves up.
When I was younger, I ignored it and made minimised it, but as I’ve gotten older, I’ve shed a lot of friends. I don’t know what Jessica is like with Meghan, but it is a very painful situation. You literally have to reconcile with your friend’s attitudes, words and actions with the very reality of your existence and feelings.
And it must be even more hurtful for Meghan after the white side of family really turned on her so publicly as well.
I really wonder what will happen to their friendship. Jessica does not appear to be someone you want to piss off (not just from this situation but from the fallout; according to Lainey her side is already making people “choose” and are being threatening). She knows EVERYTHING about Meghan and Harry and I’d wonder if she’d write a book with her inside knowledge if she felt like their friendship was over . . .
Yet another fictional account of what some writer thinks Meghan would/should do🙄you’d think that the social unrest would make them rethink their toxic obsession with Meghan but nope
I agree with you Kaiser, I dont see Meghan dropping the mulroneys over this but I think we’ll see less of them together. It’s good because we’ve only seen them attend the wedding and Jessica’s kids taking part in the wedding. Other than that the fail was speculating about Jessica banysitting Archie and we later learned that a nanny was looking after him (I think with Doria).
You’re judged by the company you keep. Sucks for M, but I’m sure both will come out OK. Jess is an entitled a-hole, but that’s nothing new. I didn’t take her for a racist a-hole though, so that’s new.
That’s not true for all. Just using royal family as an example, not seen people judge the Queen for being married to Prince Philip with his history of racist ‘gaffes’. Sheikh Mohammad of Dubai found guilty in U.K. high court earlier this year of organising kidnapping of his children, threats, intimidation of his wife. It’s been made clear the Queen will maintain relationship but just won’t be seen with him at Ascot etc. no real commentary or outrage with the Queen& royal family despite work people like Camilla do on domestic violence.
Charles& Andrew have been friends with at least 8 paedophiles between them. Hardly see any query on Charles’ judgment given those relationships. It’s only since Epstein’s legal troubles before suicide& then his disastrous interview that Andrew has been truly dragged for that relationship.
Kate & William had friends who did brown face last year. No outrage at them.
Some are just held to higher standards.
This isn’t true. Only white folks are given the benefit of the doubt and seen as individuals. Black people are not only responsible for and judges by everything that other lack people do, but we’re also responsible for and judges by what our white friends do as well.
The first season of Suits ran in 2011 – in fact the first season ended right before 9/11 – during the Bush years. At that point, no one was discussing white privilege. The only thing anyone ever talked about was the war on terror. Privilege, implicit bias, systemic racism are concepts that entered the public dialog during Obama’s presidency. Meghan became friends with Jessica when W was president – casual racism was commonplace and something Meghan had to deal with in her day-to-day life. Judging her by today’s standards for a friendship which began years ago is unfair.
Wanted to make a correction on my comment, since I confused 2011 with 2001 (not sure how it happened, but there it is). I still believe my point stands, because in 2011 we were coming out of the Great Recession – it was only in Obama’s second term that social justice and equality really became a focus in politics and culture.