Kim Kardashian spent 24 hours in Wyoming this week and apparently, a lot happened during that time. Kim was seen crying in the car with Kanye (as he looked mid-rant), and I think it probably says something about Kanye’s current state that she left so quickly. Kim feels “exhausted” by Kanye’s current manic episode and “very hurt” by the things he’s said and done. A source told Page Six this week: “Kim has known about Kanye’s bipolar disorder all along, and she has worked hard privately to support him and protect him and their kids. But this is the worst episode he has ever had. She fears he may have to hit rock bottom before he finally wakes up and realizes what he has done.” Is this the worst episode? I think it’s the worst in terms of the Kardashian-West marriage, but his episode in 2018, when he was glassy-eyed and ranting in the Oval Office, was a lot worse. Anyway, sources (“sources”) have been pouring their guts out to People Magazine:
When Kim Kardashian West flew to Cody, Wyoming, on Monday to see her husband Kanye West, it wasn’t exactly a happy reunion.
“This is a very sad time for her,” says a source of the reality star, who has been struggling to navigate her marriage amidst West’s recent public outbursts. “She’s really upset.”
“Kim feels trapped,” the source says. “She loves Kanye and she thinks of him as the love of her life. But she doesn’t know what to do.”
Indeed, multiple sources say that the six-year union between West, 43, and Kardashian, 39, was under strain even before the recent incidents. Since, things have come close to a breaking point.
“Kim was thinking that they need to be apart,” says the source of Kardashian, who returned home to Los Angeles on Tuesday. “She knows that it’s not healthy for her to be around him now, and it’s honestly not healthy for the kids. He needs to get his stuff together before he can be any sort of partner or father.” Still, no matter what, “Kim wants the best for Kanye,” an insider says. “And she will always want what’s best for him.”
I’ve been defending Kim a lot because I really, genuinely feel for her, just as I have a lot of empathy for all of the families who deal day-to-day, week-to-week with mental illness and bipolar disorder. But Kim is not “trapped.” She is in a bad place, for sure, and I don’t doubt that she’s stressed and upset and emotionally drained. But she’s not trapped – she has outlets to vent, she has tons of support from her family, she has an endless amount of resources at her disposal and on and on. Saying that she’s “trapped” does a disservice to the families out there struggling with similar mental illness issues who don’t have Kim’s access or resources or support.
People Magazine also did a lengthy piece – also using “sources” – about Kim discouraging Kanye from running for president. This was also during her whirlwind trip to Wyoming. She apparently told him to “focus on his mental health instead” of fake-running for president “but he won’t listen.” Kim “wants him to get his priorities straight” and sources say Kanye “hasn’t seen the kids for weeks.”
Photos courtesy of Backgrid.
This is sad.
I read a user saying yesterday that they lived in the same town where Kanye and Kim were filming at a local Wendy’s. I am started to believe that this is a narrative to push Kim in the right light and boost her likeability should the outcome of divorce happen. I feel terrible, but paparazzi doesn’t work the way people are speculating here, there always has to be a “tiped off” for people to capture or get the “right moment”. Feeling “trapped” is such a “privilege” and insensitive thing to say when millions of Americans have no access to medical care or cannot afford it. A 5150 hold is not done voluntarily as we have been misreading, if Kanye was in another manic “episode” and endangered himself, the doctors could have moved him without his consent. This here tells me he was healthy enough to advocate for himself. I don’t put it past the Koven to make this about them while painting Kanye to be unfit because of his mental illnesses. We shouldn’t dismiss the Klans actions as being holy. They are far from it.
Cicil, I agree
I’m sorry, but it is really difficult to get a 5150 hold on someone. My brother has schizoaffective disorder and we have had painful moments trying to get him help by getting a 5150 hold on him in order to try to reach him. He was very much not in his right state of mind. He was manic, listening to voices that were not there. On one occasion, the police forcibly took my brother out of our hotel room and still they couldn’t do anything because my brother wasn’t threatening himself or us in that particular moment (they were called because he was exhibiting threatening behavior). It isn’t simple.
Trapped was a poor choice of words. Kim has a TON of options at her disposal. I feel for her though, I think she’s disheartened and at a loss of what to do and it’s beyond frustrating to watch this play out and not be able to do anything to really mitigate it.
She does have a ton of options, but none of them are good. And they boil down to 2: stay and endure, or leave and break apart your family. She can’t control him.
I don’t know.. maybe at that level with all the fame, and Kanye’s massive ego and celebrity,…for her, and her specifically, it might be trapping. If she left him, how would that look? Her public image is her product.
Sorry but not sorry. Both her and Melania could get out of their marriages if they wanted to do so. I would not blame Kim if she did.
I can’t believe I am believe I am defending Melania here but Melania is in a worst position. Melania is married to a president, someone who has enough power to seriously hurt her and not be held accountable for it. Plus she was smart enough to have only one kid whereas Kim went on and had more kids With not even 2 years appart after her husband mental health started getting worse and worse.
She could have divorced him before he became president. Being president doesn’t (or shouldn’t) gove him any more power during a divorce.
melania is a mob wife, she doesn’t want a divorce, never wanted a divorce, will never ask for a divorce.
Thank you, @beauxblue
@ beaux — much like Kim for many of the same reasons…ok, all of the same…power, wealth, access.
He really seems to be getting worse. I wonder how if the Taylor Swift incident was part of a BPD episode.
Grabbing the mic from her hand so we could all hear his almighty opinion? Then later saying he made her famous? I’d lay money on it.
Hard no from me. In my opinion Kanye was healthy and just being a jack*ss at that point. Rather than bipolar, it was probably a product of his being wasted drunk that evening.
Its the same BS they do whenever one of their exes has wronged them, I Am shocked this time they are actually doing this to Kanye who is capable of revealing everthing imaginable.
You can feel trapped between a rock and a hard place no matter how much or how little money you have
Exactly! Money makes life easier for sure, but you can absolutely feel trapped regardless.
This exactly. She may not be trapped but she said she FEELS trapped. Feelings are valid, even if you are a Kardashian. They have a beautiful, young family together and it’s got to be devastating thinking about breaking that up.
Yeah this exactly. Money is not saving her from a husband who doesn’t take his mental health seriously. It doesn’t save her from feeling helpless because she just wants him to get help and he won’t. And no matter what she does she can’t save her kids from the internet long term, so in a way that’s a layer of BS us plebes don’t have to worry about.
That being said, of course she’s not “trapped” in the very real sense that people without more resources are. However, I just think it’s nit-picky to jump on her about using the word “trapped” because she has every right to feel like she can’t make a good decision here and she is powerless to save someone she loves and her marriage.
Trapped?! Girl you have millions of dollars and resources at your disposal. YOU have the option to leave lickety-split. And you’ll never, ever understand what being trapped truly feels like. Keep your children away from Kanye until he gets the help he needs. She gets 0 sympathy from me.
Why are people acting like leaving is a good option? It may be necessary, but the custody/divorce is going to be horrible (you think Kanye’s going to be a pleasant co-parent?).
She can’t just keep her kids away from him. He has rights, he’s got money, and he will lash out. It take a lot to get sole custody in California.
@Tanya, I agree. On top of which once they split she has zero control over his behaviours. When you get divorced you don’t have that much influence on your partner’s parenting style until it is a serious issue.
@Tanya, everything you said.
Exactly!
Kim and Kanye tried to exploit and sell their relationship as some loving power couple with the perfect family. Now that they’ve turned against each other , they are trying to exploit each other. It’s like they both suddenly woke up and realized who they were married to. It’s a no win situation and always was. Especially for the kids.
These “sources” sure have been working extra time this week.
It’s like we are reading her personal diary entries.
They sure have.
and in the meantime Kanye is still throwing time and money into trying to get on the ballot. I see this as preemptive because Kim KNOWS he is serious about running and the backlash is going to be very real and people are going to be blaming Kim about this.
What Kanye really needs is a financial conservator a-la Britney Spears.
Someone who has his best interests at heart- so not Pimp Mama Kris.
I’m guessing Dave Chappelle doesn’t want that job.
Trapped between wanting out of a toxic marriage vs. wanting the clout he gives to her/her family/her brand. For once in your life, get your priorities straight Kimberly and divorce his a**
Feeling trapped isn’t always based on resources. When my ex partner was in the throes of his addictions, I felt trapped. I had every resource to leave, but love and a sense of obligation to the commitment you made to that person are powerful things.
There are often other dynamics at play, not unlike someone in an abusive relationship. It’s complicated and heart breaking.
Exactly. Not to mention getting into a protracted custody fight. The minute they divorce, she will have no say over what he does with his custody time.
Supervised custody is a common option and clearly by now an easily attainable result. One vid snippet from his crying sobbing campaign stop should be all the court needs. Just need to make sure it’s an independent supervisor.
Unless you’re a lawyer or a judge, you don’t know that. I’ve heard a judge tell a woman that just because her ex beats her, it doesn’t mean he’ll hurt her children. Her kids are still really young. It’s hard to get supervised custody imposed for very long for mental illness reasons, especially if it can be controlled with meds.
Divorcing and protecting the kids will be very difficult for Kim. Kanye displays socially reckless behavior, not physically reckless behavior, and even if he did, a lot of judges still aren’t convinced about how dangerous one partner could be to children even if they do physically abuse their partner. My ex never hit me, but he was dangerous and stalked me, and he eventually attempted to kill our kid when in his custody. I had to fight him in court for years until our child testified about it. California works hard to keep both parents involved with children unless there is proof of physical abuse.
I also feel bad for Kim and mental illness is definitely no joking matter. That being said a couple of days ago one of us said here that Kim does not mind terribly when Kanye attacks others during his manic depressive episodes. She might even seemed to enjoy it a little when Kanye attacked Amber Rose and Taylor Swift. But now this time he went after Kris Jenner and herself and of course she didn’t like it. I certainly hope she didn’t encourage in any way his rants against others. I am just saying.
She is only sad because he turned against her and her family. When he was spouting nonsense about slavery or disrespecting Harriet Truman or even defending Trump She had no problem with it.
Exactly !
BINGO.
Kim always knew Kanye was an uninvolved partner since she was pregnant with North. On the show and in interviews she has said that Kanye wasn’t around much, he was in Paris working on an album. He has always spent plenty of time away from her and eventually their children, which I don’t think she was really torn up about. She didn’t even want Kris Humphries to move in with her. How many articles have we gotten in the past about how they live separate lives? She continued to have children with Kanye even after his last bipolar episode, which was as bad as this current episode. She should just leave and stop leaking to the press, whilst claiming to want privacy. I doubt Kanye would fight her on custody anyway.
THIS!
That’s why they have that massive house that’s basically several smaller mansions stitched together – they can both be home but living on opposite ends of the house, barely seeing each other.
I almost gotta give a slow clap to Kris Jong Un for this kompletely kontrolled and manipulated media roll out. It’s straight out of the book: bombard the public with the same message until we believe it. So what if Kim had just bombarded us with the opposite message, photos of what a perfect and loving family they are. Bombard with a new message and they stay in kontrol.
Jules, no lies told, but that won’t be enough in front of a judge. Media manipulation pisses judges off in custody battles.
This is why this family’s 15 minutes will never end. They always find a way to get sympathy from the public.
Generally speaking, I have almost nothing to do with the Kardashian Media Empire — I do my look at their social media, I’ve never seen an episode of any of their shows. I generally don’t care for them, and think they earn the vast majority of the criticism they receive. That said, I know how exactly how it feels to watch and interact with a partner who is struggling with their mental health (especially during periods of paranoia and unprovoked rage), and I felt trapped. I have less than a quarter of a percent of the resources the K family has at their disposal, and I could objectively see how I could get out of the situation I was in, and I knew why I needed to do it for my physical, emotional, and financial safety, but I couldn’t bring myself to do it. I fantasized about leaving *a lot,* and knew that my family and most of my friends would be supportive, with or without knowing why the relationship was ending. But I also felt paralyzed — by fear; by sadness; by feeling like a failure; by feeling like I was abandoning someone I promised to support through *anything*; by my own mental health issues; by trauma created within the relationship; by desperately wishing that I would wake up and the episode would be over and we could go back to “normal”; by thinking that we could find a medicine or a supplement or a therapist who could fix it; by trying to find the “right” line of logic or reason that would snap my partner out of it…literally all sorts of things.
So, for sure her “sources” are using this as a way to get her side of things out there, but if she says she feels trapped, she may very well feel that way. Feelings don’t have to make sense. She needs to tell her team to cool it, though; they’ve made their point repeatedly now. A heavy hand will help nothing in this situation, and may just hurt the only leverage she has with him.
KKW feels trapped because she really, REALLY, R E A L L Y does not want a divorce. A marriage like this that has been leveraged for fame, for political access, for fashion industry access, for capital (the KKW-Coty deal) is hard to walk away from. And I don’t think Kanye wants a divorce either, but reporting to People and TMZ backfired on her. Kanye read the articles and got angry. I think he loves her deeply though.
I’ve written this before, and I will write again: Kim Kardashian-West should go silent. Her backchannel to save her image has undermined her position with her husband. People are already settled in their opinions. If they only respect her because of her association with Kanye (a la Anna Wintour), no dirty details about their marriage will warm them to her. If they respected her before her union with Kanye, they will continue to work with her.
And let’s be real, any woman who would accept living in that mausoleum void called a house with its garden of dead-looking flowers is not going to divorce her husband until he is an explicit danger to her and her children.
I dated a bipolar guy for several years. I moved from Chicago to New York to Los Angeles with him where I knew no one and had no support system aside from him.
Living with him was hell, but I always felt guilted into staying in the name of mental health awareness and needing to support him. I couldn’t take any more, so one day while he was at work, I packed what little I could (leaving much of my furniture and personal effects) and moved the hell out.
“ Saying that she’s “trapped” does a disservice to the families out there struggling with similar mental illness issues who don’t have Kim’s access or resources or support.“
Exactly. It really trivializes the struggles of people who really are trapped in horrible marital situations, and shows a lack of sensitivity to – or even awareness of – the lives and challenges of real people.
Please, let’s not play into their PR machine,this is all well timed leaks to set her up as the poor, suffering wife. She has been silent or has encouraged his previous ravings as genius. Alerting the paps to her travels,being filmed conveniently crying at Wendy’s(like some minion wouldn’t be fetching it), its all spin.
Eh, people can be sympathetic without playing into the pr machine any more than those who aren’t sympathetic but keep giving them regular attention.
Yeah, he’s getting too embarrassing for her so she wants out.