Where to even start. I’m not going to laugh. *muffled giggle* I WILL NOT LAUGH. It seems poetic to me, for some reason, that this was the logical conclusion of four years of Donald Trump: hoisted on his own virus-ridden, morbidly obese petard. He thought he could deny, deny, deny the virus. And the virus was like “bitch, you thought.” So, where are we now? On Friday, roughly seventeen hours after his tweet confirming that he was diagnosed with Covid-19, Donald Trump was taken by Marine One to Walter Reed Medical Center. The White House first claimed his symptoms were “mild,” and that he only had a fever and was feeling tired. Then we started to learn that, actually, he was having difficulty breathing and he was given supplemental oxygen on Friday, before he left for Walter Reed, and on and on. White House doctors even put him on an experimental drug therapy! This was not “mild.” Soon after Trump walked unaided to Marine One on Friday, his Twitter account released this hostage video:
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 2, 2020
You might think “this old geezer looks frail and sounds scared, that’s not funny at all.” I agree, it’s not. But I’m also not going to show much sympathy for a degenerate rapist, serial sexual assailant and a white supremacist who, just days ago, was still actively agitating for a race war. Let’s not forget that he told his supporters for seven months that the pandemic was nothing, a hoax, and that no one needs masks and science is for p-ssies. Spare me the performative compassion.
Various doctors treating Trump at Walter Reed said his vital signs were “concerning” in the 24 hours he had been hospitalized but they were especially coy (“lying”) about just how bad it is. A source told the NY Times: “The president’s vitals over the last 24 hours were very concerning and the next 48 hours will be critical in terms of his care. We’re still not on a clear path to a full recovery.” Again, he had been receiving oxygen IN the White House, that’s how bad it was.
Several other things (there have been easily 60 MAJOR stories in the past 48 hours). One, it really looks like the White House event on September 26th was the super-spreader event. That was the Rose Garden event formally nominating Amy Coney Barrett, who apparently had corona over the summer. No one wore masks at that event, and everyone was seated close together. Many people at or around the event have now tested positive, including: Kellyanne Conway (outed as corona-postive by her daughter on Tik Tok), Hope Hicks, Chris Christie, Sen. Mike Lee, Sen. Thom Tillis, Trump 2020 campaign manager Bill Stepien, RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel, and John Jenkins, the president of Notre Dame (who was at Barrett’s event). And,of course, Donald and Melania Trump. Melania is reportedly not feeling too poorly.
Meanwhile, the Democrats all seem to be… okay? Knock wood. Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Dr. Jill Biden and others at the presidential debate in Cleveland were all tested in the 24 hours after Trump announced. They are all negative. Reportedly, all of the Biden people wore masks inside the convention center and all of the Trump people did not. Biden’s people have also confirmed that AT NO POINT did the Trump campaign or the White House contact them about Trump’s positive test. Not only that, but the Trump White House have refused to brief the Gang of Eight, which is just a basic tenet of the continuity of government.
Some of Biden’s people told the Times that they believed Trump was already feeling sick on debate night (Tuesday). Which would make sense, given that the White House doctors can’t keep the timeline straight about when Trump was actually tested and when he began feeling symptoms. It’s more than possible – given that we cannot trust anyone associated with Trump – that Trump was actually tested on Wednesday and that he went ahead with several maskless appearances (including a fundraiser) even though he knew was corona-positive AND symptomatic.
Oh and Minister of Bigly Propaganda Ivanka Trump keeps releasing proof of life videos and photos which are completed staged and edited. The video has been edited around Trump’s coughing.
Nothing can stop him from working for the American people. RELENTLESS! 🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/2ZSat782qe
— Ivanka Trump (@IvankaTrump) October 4, 2020
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 3, 2020
Whatever happens when Trump says "therapeutics" here is a strange moment in the video he posted this evening pic.twitter.com/TaaG13AH2E
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) October 4, 2020
Fire up the "It's Always Sunny" theme music pic.twitter.com/lDkHarsJMu
— Justice delos Santos (@justdelossantos) October 2, 2020
Video of the ACB announcement event on Saturday at the WH featuring Sen. Mike Lee of Utah, who has now tested positive for Covid-19. pic.twitter.com/aCqP2JCH73 via @bubbaprog
— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) October 2, 2020
Photos courtesy of Avalon Red.
It is what it is.
I see what you did there. 😉
I love it when this happens: it’s 1:30am here. I’m up watching the very late news programmes. A man was asked a question about trump’s diagnosis and what might happen in the coming day. I didn’t catch the first bit as I was reading this story, and as I was reading y-ur comment, Atti, I hear, “…,but, it is what it is.”
I really don’t care, do you?
Nope!
Not a bit.
Except… I want him to appear to recover, then get out there and work his arse off, to the point of collapse. He shouldn’t die (yet), but should watch it all slip away from him, preferably from a hospital bed he can never leave. He’s made enough people sick, or die, because of his stupidity and bald-faced arrogance. He needs to cop the same. I don’t care what that makes me.
What do you drink, AnnaKist, I’m dropping by.
Who knows about Trump, but I’d be shocked if Chris Christie ever leaves that hospital.
I really hated the first 3 seasons of “The Bigliest Show On Earth” but I have to admit this final season is riveting. Did they get new writers?
Perfect! Thank you so much for really making me laugh! I just hope the season wraps on a happy ending and no cliffhanger.
If it says “To Be Continued…..” I’m out
It seems like they’re tying up all the lose ends so the main character can make a definitive exit.
This is the biggest cliffhanger since J.R. got his comeuppance on Dallas.
Speaking of Chris – Who among us mere taxpaying mortals (even those with concerning conditions) could walk into a hospital and check in “under an abundance of caution”? Either he’s very ill or just very privileged.
Those were my thoughts exactly!
For the longest time we couldn’t even get a covid test let alone voluntarily check into a hospital just to be safe. People were sent home to fend for themselves until they were gravely ill and the least deserving are being doted on.
@Traveler – So true!
A month ago, several exposed to a positive, symptomatic co-worker were told by our health department that they had to wait several days and then could only get a test if they had symptoms. And because ours is considered an essential industry, CDC (or the WH, since they were allegedly editing) states you should still come to work unless you have symptoms. So they “quarantined” at work! This is likely how cases can tear through nursing homes, which are also considered essential.
Totally privileged! Remember when there was no one at the beach but his family?
Fact is, they checked their fat, bloated butts into the hospital ASAP and will receive the best of care. Not so for many of the 210,000 who have already met their demise.
Yes. Your everyday American receives the worst of care, on a good day. The cheapest, lightest possible
That’s what really pisses me off. Trump has access to antibody cocktails that nobody else has access to and they’re throwing every other treatment that could possibly help at him and you just know if he beats it he’s going to claim it was because he’s so superior and healthy. And Covid didn’t have a chance and he didn’t really need to be hospitalized and he didn’t really need oxygen and on and on.
I hope he survives, loses the election, and ends up in jail for money laundering or tax fraud or any of his crimes in office. Then after a few years in prison he can die from the extensive lung damage he suffered from Covid.
And please no sequels or spin-offs!
I don’t want him to die but instead get totally humiliated on November 3rd.
I am upset with the Democrats for stopping their “attacking” commercials for 2 weeks. The Republicans aren’t doing it so why are the Democrats again taking a knife to a gun fight?
I am sick and tired of the older generation who play nice all the time. Thankfully the new younger blood is bringing the fighting spirit and are fighting fire with fire.
I read somewhere that the Biden campaign was planning on doing that anyway and focusing on a very positive message for the end of the campaign. If that’s true, they were following their plan all along, but get the added good press of saying they are backing off the negative ads.
Biden is running on empathy and humanity as a contrast to the ghoul, so I think this is may work well for him.
If he isn’t alive on November 3, his MAGATS will claim the election isn’t legitimate because Biden beat a dead guy.
They don’t want them to have an excuse to feel more like victims. Not that it matters. No sympathy bump in the polls, either. Only from his hypocritical supporters.
I don’t want him to die because I was already afraid of the reaction if he just loses. Now? He dies before there can even be a vote, and from COVID no less, the Trumpsters, QANONers, etc are going to react with a level of violence most of us have only seen in history books.
FFS, we already have dueling armed militias roaming the streets and misanthropic assholes hiding behind legitimate protesters so they can burn cities to the ground. It’s only going to get worse.
Doubt he will die. He has getting the highest quality healthcare, unlike most Americans. Especially minorities.
I was talking about this today: he must NOT die.
I want him to lose the election and be sentenced for what he has done.
Ok sure.
Many are stating that it’s all a ploy. Inconsistent updates from the WH on his health has not helped. And an experimental drug on the POTUS???? GIVE ME A BREAK. I don’t believe it.
A top political satirist wrote (summed up version): when you have a man who has spread the virus of lies and inconsistencies, of course there is now a doubt in what he says.
And the most hilarious of all is his number one rated tweet on Twitter of all time: his update he has COVID.
I am no Trump fan, I wish him and his wife well and hope they don’t suffer from this virus. But no matter if this is a ploy or not I think COVID will be his undoing.
The hospital I work at is doing a trial with the same drug and the patients are showing good outcomes so it’s not too unreasonable to believe that part at least
What is the drug?
It’s called remdesivir. It’s an anti-viral that has been around awhile. It’s not a new drug. It’s only considered experimental because they haven’t proven if it works against Covid specifically.
Frankly, this occurred to me as well when I first heard. Boris Johnson got a weeks’ long surge in his polls when he got out of ICU/hospital, so it wouldn’t surprise me if Tangerine Traitor was stealing the move. He can come out in another few days or so, saying, “Look at my great genes (ie: dogwhistle to white supremacists)! See, I TOLD you it is JUST a “flu”…no more than a cold!” kind of bullshit. WOULD. NOT. SURPRISE. ME.
And btw…the metadata was checked on the photos. 10 min. apart/different rooms/jacket on, jacket off? Honestly, I’d laugh at these Keystone Cop antics if the price wasn’t so scarily high!
In Europe it is looked at critically because there are indications it could damage the kidneys. Which wouldn’t surprise me, kidney and liver damage aren’t rare side effects for drugs in general. And this was used to treat ebola, I would assume that any side effects are worth the risk for a virus that kills on average 50% of infected people.
I don’t care about Trump the person but for the country, this is bad. I thought Colbert’s take on it was interesting.
He’s the Schrodinger patient: simultaneously has mild symptoms but needs supplemental oxygen and an experimental treatment received by 245 ppl worldwide before and hospitalization, but remember, he’s totally fine! Though his vitals were worrisome and the next 48hrs are critical and he’s not tweeting… Same for Chris Christie who just “preemptively” went to the hospital (who does that?!?)
He’s scared and deserves every second of it. And the medical team should be ashamed of themselves, they should be apolitical and tell the damn truth about when he tested positive
If he’s on oxygen and getting an experimental treatment then that is a worrisome sign that his symptoms are very advanced and he’s likely had it longer than they are admitting to. BoJo ended up on oxygen and while he recovered there are rumours that he is still struggling with his health after his bout of COVID-19.
He’s been given Regeneron’s mAb at the WH which is still in very early stage of trial and should be administered early on. But he also received Remdesivir at WR which is supposed to be given at a later stage, when vitals are poor. And steroid (probably the most widely accepted as effective treatment here) and aspirin to reduce risks of cloths… Aside from the aspirin, none of this are stuff you’ll give for mild symptoms (notice that Melania hasn’t received any of it?). They’re just throwing every possible treatment at him which is the worst way to handle this (though I’m sure he’s begging for it). One thing he’s not given? HCL!!!
I feel bad for the folks at Regeneron, esp cuz a buddy works there and they’re working round the clock to get treatments out: if he doesn’t make it, the mAb cocktail will be known as “not having saved POTUS” and might tank their stocks, and if he makes it, then we’re still stuck with this monster and you don’t want to be held responsible for that
Another thing I read in the NYT was that the Trump entourage arrived late to the debate deliberately to avoid testing because THEY KNEW. Why this isn’t a bigger story I don’t know.
I also read that Trump is trying to set the stage for a big “comeback” from the virus, ostensibly to “prove” that it’s not as dire as the libs are making it out to be.
Whatever he’s doing, it is insane that we can’t believe a word about anything since lying has been their default since the beginning of his campaign. It would be laughable if it wasn’t so alarming.
Chris Wallace himself said they arrived too late to be tested by the Cleveland clinic prior to the debate and so they relied on the honour system. I mean why at this point be so stupid. They are grifting criminals.
They also refused to wear a mask when the clinic staff came and told them it was mandatory… And DC has a 50ppl max gathering rule which was obviously not followed during the Rose Garden/super-spreader event. That’s really disgusting, to decide that you are above the rules and thinking you’ll get away with it because you always have.
I’m sure they were somehow hopping that Biden might get infected too.
Either his life is in danger because he has it or it isn’t because he doesn’t. Personally, I believe it’s a trick. He needs an escape from being crushed in the debates.
If he does have it, I wish him well. He’s an awful life. And I don’t want a Pence ticket.
I left nursing over the COVID shifts. Watching something preventable kill. The ignorance of people in large doses. The administration’s interference With healthcare protocols.
Trump made this worse than it had to be. And he lost tons of competent medical professionals because it became impossible to work safely or at all.
I was inclined to think it was a lie at first but too many people who were at the super spreader event of the Handmaid judge on Saturday have tested positive for me to buy that it’s a conspiracy. Plus Chris Christie is in the hospital and some of the senators on the judicial committee have it and it could mess up the rushed nomination since they have to quarantine.
The sources who provide the real information make it sound much more serious than the WH lies. The photos were obviously taken Friday and release after Mark Meadows admitted concern and more than he should have for the propaganda party.
There’s actually a good reason for Christie going to the hospital “preemptively.” He’s pretty likely to suffer from sleep apnea due to obesity. He carries a lot around his neck. If he already has issues with breathing, then I can see his doctor telling him to go to the hospital as soon as he started showing symptoms. You can be experiencing very mild symptoms with Covid while it’s quietly tearing apart your lungs. He can actually afford to get the care he needs rather than waiting until it’s serious like most people have to.
He refused to wear a mask. He should be REFUSED a bed/ventilator; it should go to someone who actually TRIED to be safe! I have NO sympathy for these republiTHUGs.
And if he wasn’t Christie, no hospital would admit it for that reason. That he can afford it, while most can’t because his party has tried to destroy ACA and fought for his asthma and potential sleep apnea to be considered pre-existing conditions that reduce/void their coverage is disgusting. He refused to wear a mask, to socially distance from other maskless individual, he completely disregarded states and city’s rules while beds, equipment and staff is limited and yet, he should be admitted for caution because he has money?! Screw that
I agree with TheOG. If it wasn’t serious enough for Christie to wear a mask before, he doesn’t deserve a bed or ventilator now that could go to someone who tried following the rules and still got sick.
Christie said he has asthma. Which makes it even crazier to me that he didn’t wear a mask. Politicizing the virus is the dumbest thing these guys could have have done.
My husband has asthma and has barely set foot outside of our home since April. Cause he knows the risk if he contracts Covid on top of having asthma and being overweight. I have no sympathy for Krispy Kreme Christy for being so stupid to put his life at risk. And it sucks that he can just “check himself into the hospital out an abundance of caution.” None of us sure as hell could do that.
Look at the pocket bulge in the pic where he’s walking out of the WH to Marine 1. Someone zoomed in, and you can SEE the mini oxygen tank in the pocket (my dad has one, so I know how small they are!), and you can SEE the cannula going behind his ear into the mask (which he NEVER wears). It was to HIDE the cannula.
Bullshitters allllll the way.
These people lie sooo much, a good rule of thumb is, if their mouths are moving, they’re probably lying.
Apparently those photos have been manipulated to look as if he’s carrying an oxygen tank.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/oct/04/facebook-posts/trump-did-not-board-marine-one-portable-oxygen-con/
@Arpeggi, the public deserves to know the truth about what is happening but I sincerely doubt that will ever happen. The doctors are bound by HIPPA regulations even though they are military doctors. So they can only publicly say what they are authorized to say by the patient. And there in lies the rub…
The doctors were not the source of the quote about his vital signs. It was Mark Meadows, his chief of staff. That’s been confirmed by several news outlets.
My concern with all of this is the potential Constitutional crisis that could occur with the election around the corner. I read an interesting article yesterday in, I think, The NY Times about the possible outcomes. It’s a tangled mess from a legal perspective and it appears that even the experts have no clear answers on what could happen.
I absolutely believe that MDs are bound by HIPPA and can only disclose as much as they are allowed to (up to a certain point when it comes to a Head os State: you have to tell if the person is able to perform their functions or if they need to be replaced), but that doesn’t mean they’re allowed to lie to the public. Walking back on previous statements (“72hrs? Oh sorry, we meant 2 days!!!”) pretty messed up, especially when considering it is an infectious disease and contact tracing is necessary (and seems to have been neglected)
Arpeggi, I couldn’t agree with you more. I’m just as angry as you and everyone else about the conflicting information we’re getting. Especially about the time line of his diagnosis since that has such huge ramifications. I’m just trying to focus on who the real lying culprits are. And right now I don’t believe it’s Dr Conley or the other doctors. And the reason I don’t currently believe it is them is because they are military and they are following orders from their commander in chief. Whether we like it or not that’s the way the military rolls.
I may turn out to be wrong about the doctors. Won’t be the first time or the last.
I think he’s worse than they’re saying, and that they’re trying to prevent a massive stock market crash tomorrow too, as the economy (or the stock market they think is the economy) is one of his selling points.
I’m beginning to think that he was tested and had a positive result before the debate – they were only forced to admit it when the Hicks story broke (she’s been made the scapegoat as giving it to him but I think its the other way around). They are using it to change the narrative and get the sympathy vote – however I can also buy that they are potentially hiding the seriousness of his health and COVID symptoms. He is in the high risk group and his chances of a quick recovery without long term health issues are slim. His ability to campaign and/or govern has been drastically reduced – GOP are likely bricking it as Pence is no match against Biden and Harris. They need Trump out spewing his hate to win regardless of Russia’s interference.
Karma and COVID-19 are not yet finished with him, the rest of the Trumps and his administration.
I def think Melania had tested positive, that’s why she wore a mask. They all deliberately showed up too late to be tested, so someone def had already had a positive test among them. It’s really despicable. And I do think Trump tested positive before flying to Bedminster.
He’s sicker than they’re letting on and they’re lying about the timeline. I understand that for national security purposes they aren’t going to release every detail. But this is just confirming for so many that we can’t trust this government one iota.
Melania took off the mask once she sat down. Bitch was putting on a show for the cameras along with the other trumpettes. Also she didn’t have the mask on when she greeted him at the end.
They ALL took the masks off when they sat down. ALL of the MAGAts. Sickens me that they weren’t thrown out on their entitled asses.
I also believe that he was sick before the debate, I said that on this board last week that he looked sick to me. The most evil 👿 part of this whole disaster is 45 knew he had COVID, IMO and still went around spreading this deadly virus. This is a very evil man. Also, i believe he will never be the same again. We have no idea how sick he is or all his underlying conditions because he and his doctors are always lying to us.
I remember just after he won in 2016 his former dr in New York City said 45 send his men to raid his office And took all his medical files. What was he hiding….
Then he went to Walter Reed last year I believe it was November and they never told the people why he was taken to Walter Reed, what is he hiding…
Now his personal doctor yesterday was very evasive in answering questions about his health yesterday. He would not even give the reporters his vital signs, what is he hiding🤫.
If he survives we won’t see him in public again – they will prop him up with those photo stunts they did on Friday.
From what I understand the election can’t be postponed, so he either has to continue to campaign or bow out with another candidate stepping in – who does Moscow Mitch have in mind? Am pretty sure the fight for power between the Trump family and GOP has already begun – those grifters have a taste for power and they will not let it go without a fight. I think GOP will throw the Trumps under the bus, they have served their purpose.
He also knew he was sick when he visited Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine who said today that he has not been contacted by the White House about potential Covid-19 exposure. Can you believe this….he KNEW he was sick and willfully did NOT wear a mask, cancel the visit, or even give the Governor the dignity of the truth once he was diagnosed. May Trump rot in the hell of his own making.
I mean “The Simpsons” already predicted his death. I would put my money there. I know this is not nice but he has hurt millions with his stupidity. Karma is a bitch
So, when my dad and other family members on Medicare were checked into hospitals for the Trump virus, they were hooked up to ALL THE THINGS. Gowns, IVs, all the works. One had to be on a ventilator. We were not allowed to bring them anything (books, magazines, etc) to help them pass the time because we could bring the virus in from the outside. We also were not allowed anywhere on their floors since they were the Covid quarantine floors.
As a citizen, to see Trump “in the hospital” room with wood panelling, wearing a white collar shirt, no wires or tubes, shuffling papers and having a person presumably in the same room taking a picture… I’m furious that, 1) the WH staff do not appear to be taking this seriously, 2) he is squandering more of our taxpayer money wasting & risking resources that do not appear to be needed, 3) his narcissism stops him from delegation (unless the papers are his hospital menu, snort), 4) photo op, in the hospital? Really? 5) the difference in treatment between the Haves and the Have Nots make me mourn for the upcoming death of the ACA.
I get that he is president, so his treatment will not be the same as the average citizen. However, for those of us who are familiar with the treatments and facilities used in combating the Trump virus, the photo is a slap in the face. It would have been better to just provide a proof-of-life photo with a close-up of his face (*shudder*) or something else. This photo plays into that hoax/just a bad cold/it’s not a big deal mindset of his fanbase.
I don’t think the photos were taken at Walter Reed. The white cabinets in particular look a lot like what’s in the West Wing. Also some of the posed photos in different rooms are ten minutes apart. He did a round NK fakery because he likely is hooked up right now, but these photos were taken on Friday. Someone needs to subpoena that photographer one day because she knows the real story. Signing a blank page with a sharpie doesn’t inspire confidence to anyone but the dumbest cultists. And the outside world sees this for the show that it is.
Too bad he wasn’t signing a Do Not Resuscitate order.
It was blank so it may be saved for later use.
Those photo’s were clearly not taken at the hospital and were also clearly photoshopped badly – in one there is an odd reflection on the table. I think he posed for them before he was airlifted to Walter Reed – he is sicker than they are letting on and you can bet your last dollar daughter-wife and The Boy are installing themselves into power vacuum at the WH. The question is is who will GOP put forward if COVID-19 does what no one else has been able to do yet – get him out of power? There is no way they will support Nagini – it will be someone from their rank and file.
There is a strong chance Jared is infected since he’s been around Hicks a lot. And his assistant has a spouse who just tested positive because he works directly with dump.
I don’t see any way this looks good for him. Carelessness led to this outcome (assuming it’s true). The history of lying leads the public to doubt the severity of the illness.
The latest video (which I also doubt was filmed at the hospital) includes a mention of getting back out there like they were doing, and something about their numbers. I assume that means more big rallies and carelessness.
The one silver lining truly is that this places a dual spotlight on the poorly handled COVID crisis and on healthcare for the haves and have nots.
It burns me up to the core that he’s afforded the privilege to get whisked away to receive the best immediate medical care for a virus he denied and then downplayed while so many people struggled to get testing and appropriate level of care early in the pandemic due to his lack of care, planning, and ineptness.
Kind of bugs me not that he’s getting the best of care. He is the President. What bugs me is he didn’t pay any TAXES, so is further coasting on other people’s blood, sweat and tears.
Bugs me that he’s being treated at a military hospital after calling the military suckers and losers!!
What really angers me is this useless piece of 💩 shit is getting the absolute best health care available, access to drugs and therapies at NO PERSONAL COST TO HIM. How many people who have suffered through Covid now face huge medical bills? Over 200,000 people died. Millions are facing long term lingering effects from Covid. And this administration is arguing before the Supreme Court to abolish Obamacare and take what little insurance people have away from them. We may all lose the benefit of not being denied health care due to pre existing conditions. Naw…you reap what you sow. It is what it is.
Try as I might I have no sympathy for him or any of them that have contracted Covid. And that is wrong and goes against all my upbringing and moral beliefs. So I do ask forgiveness and pray for a softening of my hardened heart.
Truly no cost to him since he doesn’t pay federal taxes! We’re all footing that bill.
I like to focus on the Old Testament and its harsher penalties for assholes during these times.
This. Don’t forget he’s on a crusade to take away peoples healthcare. People who get exposed to covid because they need to work for a living. He’s had 4 years to co e up with a health care plan and nothing. My sympathies lie with the people who get turned away at hospitals or can’t afford health care.
I look at as we are granted wisdom to recognize evil. And it is acceptable to abhor it.
I think the pictures they sent out last night were taken in the White House before he went to Walter Reed. I’ve seen pictures the Presidential Suite at Walter Reed and those rooms aren’t there. And even if they were rooms in the building, why is he being moved around all over the place just to take pictures? And exposing whoever it was taking the picture?
Beyond that, this administration lies so much I don’t know what to believe.
I have as much sympathy for him as he did for Hillary Clinton when she caught pneumonia in 2016. I won’t even waste my thoughts and prayers.
This pandemic has fundamentally changed me as a person.
Me too. I tried to “be a better person” for like 3 hours on Friday and then I realized that I don’t need to do that. I’ll continue to keep my thoughts on the 200k+ Americans who have died, they are the ones who deserve our thoughts.
Some people don’t deserve any sympathy at all, even when they are sick. Trump is one of them and I don’t feel bad at all that I cannot muster one iota of sympathy for him. His recklessness is evil and I don’t wish him well at all.
I work in costumes for film, so my job is watching continuity for clothing. I can basically confirm that Trump shot all the videos and photos the same day we saw him walk to the plane. It’s all the same outfit except he removed the tie for today’s video, and has no jacket/tie for Ivanka’s photo. He’s 100% not able to shoot any real propaganda today which is why they top-loaded it when he was feeling a little more active. Remember, this dude’s background is in television.
Thank you. Anything his team releases is suspect. No press were allowed to see his walk to the helicopter. It’s all prerecorded and edited.
No prob! Here, metadata confirmed what I deduced with my eyeballs haha
https://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/1312616578773446656?s=20
One reason I love Celebitchy and celebitches? Right here, folks. There are interesting people who make interesting comments and there is always an opportunity to learn something. This assessment is gold, @ce! Thank you!
Truly. The things one can learn from one’s fellow (or sister) celebitches…
Love it!
Me too. The constant stream of educational material is almost the best part of this site.
So true!
I learn something on almost every political thread. There are many smart celebitches here.
Love your insight, @CE!
Also, someone on Twitter pointed out that he’s signing his name to a blank piece of paper.
Thank you for the breakdown CE.
Thanks for your comments! Like a lot of people, I have asthma, so I was watching his video really closely to see how long he could go without taking a breath. He was a bit short of breath and seemed like he was taking a lot of quick, shallow breathes, but he wasn’t as bad as I though he would be. It makes more sense that the video was taken earlier, on the day he went into hospital. I’m thinking he’s worse now.
Also, as others have said, why are photographers allowed into a Covid unit to photograph him? And, are his doctors PR spokespeople? I understand because of HIPPA that they can only say what the patient allows them to say, but does that mean they’re obliged to lie for the patient?The whole thing is just a confusing mess.
I laughed.
excellent Hamlet reference, Kaiser!
very much hoping the quasi-shakespearean poetic justice continues in real life this november
I think he’s in way worse shape than they’re letting on, the timeline is messed up and doesn’t make sense, the videos of him are edited and likely filmed way earlier, and it’s a den of thieves and liars and no one will believe them no matter what they say.
I hope he survives, I want him to watch himself lose in a landslide, and then face charges for all of his crimes. But I have no sympathy for his suffering.
His personal assistant at the White House has also now tested positive. I think it’s pretty likely that anyone who was around that whole group is at high risk. Masks and social distancing would have prevented this.
Keep him in there! Lock him up! Keep experimenting! It’s been great not hearing from him for a few days.
I only feel bad for the service staff that were exposed to the virus by all these ignorant assholes. They won’t get the same health care and they were treated as disposable by this evil man, his evil family and idiot enablers.
Something to keep in mind…. it took Boris Johnson at least 30 days before he could resume his duties, and he had a few days of being okay before things got really bad. Boris is 55 and while not in the best shape, his cardiovascular system is still much better than a 74 year old morbidly obese Adderal addict who has had mini strokes. This is going to be a lengthy recovery and he’s not going to be better by Election Day.
Yeah…my true thoughts and prayers are for the permanent White House staff and Secret Service agents who were needlessly exposed. There should be more said about those innocent people and whether any of them have tested positive.
A secret service person has anonymously complained about how poorly they have been treated over this whole thing because those idiots refuse to be safe. Agents have already tested positive for it.
The only good thing about this is that it’s the secret service who are responsible to protect the elected president, so when Joe wins, the secret service will make sure dump is taken the eff out of the WH on Inauguration Day. They are not going to be loyal to an asshole who has no respect for their safety.
It looks like – from photos, check Twitter- that he had supplemental oxygen when he walked to marine one. You can see the tubing behind his ears going under his mask and snaking up his back.
His Maga cult followers think he’ll be up and back out on the campaign trail in no time. He’s healthy, fit and in great shape (unlike the senile, in poor health Joe Biden). Trump and his cult followers are beyond delusional. No way is he gonna miraculously rebound from this.
There’s absolutely no good way for Trump to spin this.
He can downplay it and alienate millions of Americans who have experienced Covid and Covid-deaths first hand.
He can talk up his excellent medical care that most Americans can’t afford.
Or he could do a 180 and start taking the virus seriously.
I’m maybe feeling hope again?
Or he can die and shut the f*ck up forever. I’m rooting for option D.
This made me snort laugh @ Yup, Me
How about Jan 19? That way it’ll make it much easier when we have to haul his morbidly obese ass unwillingly out of the WH
I won’t believe anything out of the WH until reporters see him. Between edited video and the sketchy doctor nobody really knows if he is on a ventilator or just being monitored.
I can’t with the media and famous people coming out and affirmatively wishing him well. The NYT did an editorial titled “Get Well, Mr. President.” Rachel Maddow was practically hysterical on Twitter wishing him a quick recovery. The Obamas, the Clintons too – just don’t say anything. Trump would be laughing his fat ass off if the tables were turned.
@Mumbles Agreed! Trump would be tweeting up a storm laughing his ass of if Biden tested positive for Covid-19, no doubt in the world! He is a bully and an asshole and has zero compassion for ANYONE!
Mumbles- I disagree. I think it’s important that everyone be nice to him here, or he’d use that to make himself look better. Being nice just emphasizes his awfulness. Especially when his supporters are okay with running over BLM protesters.
Besides, if you really hate him, you want him to survive to really suffer by being humiliated and going to jail.
I understand that public figures have to engage in performative politeness. I also understand this: Trump wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire. He might try to hire sex workers to piss on them (but he can’t afford that.)
I think the obamas, Biden’s and Clinton’s are stuck having to do basic politeness. I do think the media needs to calm down here. Just don’t wish him death but FFS he negligently exposed himself to this virus knowing the risk… I mean Herman Cain is dead…. and he made fun of those who took safety precautions. And they are doing NK style Dear Leader propaganda here so let’s do your job and expose the lies.
Nobody in the media or political spheres should be publicly dancing a jig at the news of Trump’s illness. It is always better to be diplomatic and not let personal feelings override decorum at times like these. It’s better optics to take the high road and not to sink to his level.
@jaded- exactly
What is absolutely hilarious/pathetic to me is that – in that update from his doctors yesterday at Walter Reid, Trump’s primary doctor, Dr. Conley said “72 hours” into his diagnosis LMAO! Yeah the press was all over that shit. The WH tried to walk that info back with some bullshit memo “supposedly” written by Conley saying that is not what he meant????? Yeah, sure thing assholes, military physician can’t correctly determine the time of diagnosis – GOT IT!!!! I know most of their MAGA supporters are downright uneducated and stupid (#sorrynotsorry) but the rest of us have more than two brain cells, thank you. We see reality for what it is, and how this Administration lies, and lies to cover up the President’s ENDLESS lies! So 72 hours in, would be Trump testing positive or knowing he was positive sometime Wednesday – yeah not what they want the public to KNOW. Because he proceeded to go to rallies in NJ after that and maybe one other event as well, without a mask, putting potentially thousands at risk for Covid-19! In addition, in that bullshit memo to the WH that was supposedly written by Conley , the person who wrote it misspelled the experimental antibody drug Regeneron. You mean to tell me, a military physician that is treating our President can’t spell the drug he is giving our President? Yeah, sure thing! They literally think we are fucking idiots! Well, I am not and I am almost 100% this is a cover-up that Trump was positive much earlier than we are being told!! Because of his negligence and because he is a careless narcissistic sociopath, many, many others are now sick too!!! He is a POS and no, I don’t want him to die, rather I want him to recover, get badly beaten on election day, and then get legally held accountable for the last FOUR years!!!
All of This!!! Wouldn’t be surprised if he was positive at the debate. Told one of my friends he looked like crap and about 90 years of age.
@bamaborn – yes!! Given that so many people are testing positive from Amy Coney Barrett’s party last Saturday, safe bet he was positive there, thus positive at the debate. Chris Wallace has come out and said that Trump and Biden both arrived at the debate late on Tuesday, and it was on the honor system they were tested and negative LOL 🙂 And Trump’s stupid First family didn’t wear masks either, once they sat down! I just can’t with these people anymore! They are all horrid, from the top (Trump) all the way down! I will give Barron a pass, b/c I feel so bad for him, he’s still so young. But yes, I smell one big cover-up with this!!! I am hoping he loses BADLY! I saw on the news tonight Biden has a 14 point lead in the polls, but after 2016, I don’t trust that anymore haha!!
Edgar Alan Poe wrote this story of the Amy Covid19 Barrett Swap Party in The Mask of the Red Death.
My thoughts and prayers are with the workers at the White House, the Secret Service, the Cleveland Clinic, Air Force One, Marine One, Bedminister, and everywhere else the Trumps have gone n the past week. A small cafe in North Carolina, which employs people with disabilities, has had to close down because Nagini did a campaign stop there on Thursday. Junior tweeted yesterday that he tested negative, will do one more test, and then will return to traveling about. Pence has been in contact with at least eight people who are Covid19 positive after that party but refuses to quarantine.
This is just unforgivable.
And, Nagini, nobody wears cuff links in the hospital.
For the first time in almost 4 years, I feel some hope. Karma gets you eventually
Not sure how Chris Christie can survive COVID. He is obese and apparently has had asthma. Seriously, if one of those individuals who contracted COVID at the Rose Garden event were to die, how will that look for Trump?????
And while Trump is getting first class medical care at Walter Reed paid by the taxpayers, his administration is working on dismantling the Affordable Care Act. My god.
As you said, his treatment is “paid for by the tax payers”, is such a shame knowing he does not pay taxes and he’s getting better treatment that is not afforded to us who pay our taxes. They should send him a bill because he’s using our money, not his. Let him 💰.
And he checked himself into a hospital out of an abundance of caution. How many people get turned away from the hospital. because they Aren’t sick enough and then die? It’s happened a lot.
My neighbor is very ill, massive coughing (i can hear him) and he got turned down for a TEST because he doesn’t have a fever. And he is a healthcare worker.. The disparity is horrible.
Herman Cain died and no one has said boo to Dump about it. Not even Joe Biden at the debate, which was such a missed opportunity.
The pictures/videos are likely fake af. He’s wearing the contaminated clothes he wore to the hospital? Yeah, right. The hospital would take of that. Also, no IV? Sketchy as hell.
He’s got to be either faking or pretty seriously ill. They aren’t giving the leader of the free world experimental treatment for nothing.
And he had it before Thursday. I wouldn’t be surprised if hes the one that spread it at the SCOTUS nomination event. He had it the debate, for sure.
My guess? They weren’t testing him regularly. But they suspected Tuesday which is why he refused testing. But he started with serious symptoms Wed, and they did a test showing he was positive. They tried to hide it, but he’s spread it to too many folks. And he was getting too sick.
Yeah, something is definitely wrong. He is too slim for that walk to Marine One.
He was giving a JFK cocktail. A upper and a girdle.
This is bad.
I’m thinking of pasta of dinner tonight. What about y’all?
Dominoes.
I just can’t muster any sympathy for a fascist rapist. Nor any for those complicit c$&!s surrounding him.
I do hope he survives to be defeated.
I’m not celebrating but grimly satisfied. They have nobody but themselves to blame if something dire happens. While we are at it, enjoy the hypocrisy of “pro-life” nominee Barrett who brought her children to an unmasked, densely packed crowd event in the middle of a pandemic that’s killed children. What a negligent jackass lol.
Pro-life until they’re born! Or unless theyre brown, in which case you get a free hysterectomy
Do I want to be the kind of person who doesn’t gloat in the misery of others? Yes.
Do I hope Trump has been having the worst diarrhea of his life? Also yes.
Payback is a bitch and her stripper name is Karma!
I don’t care about his health one whit. It would be disingenuous for me to pretend to wish him recovery. I guess some people are ‘more spiritual’ than me. Lol.
Trump=Idiot.
I just want to acknowledge the medical people who are doing their jobs in treating him.
Because I could not be assigned to him, I can not separate him from his current job.
Good thing professional medical are better people than I am.
I know this makes me petty and not charitable to him, BUT, if ever their was a guy that deserves Karma to kick his big, lying, arse..it is Trump.
He is awful, in so very many, many ways.
To me, Trump having C19 to me is the same as if my Ex-Husband got it.
This has zero to do with me. I don’t know him, he is not my problem anymore.
Btw, Chris Christie should be plenty worried too.
Trump, Christie, McConnel are all old men, and Trump and Christie are in rotten shape overall, overweight, no exercise, evil nasty souls..It is what it is.
I also really don’t care, do u??
I don’t mind if he confronts his karmic debt. Everybody has to pay, in the end.
They are pathetic. Even if he is sick, which I think many of us have had doubts, the WH is still creating confusion so that the media and the people focus on “is he or isn’t he.” Confuse and distract from how awful this fascist is. How mentally unstable he once again proved to be in that debate. A sick note to keep him from any further debates. And from the news that he’s a total failure and a fraud in business. And that he told a violent white supremacy group to “stand by.” And that his wife is the nightmare of the mouth breathers on Fox News with their made up #WarOnChristmas.
Yesterday, I was getting Starbucks at a location near a movie theater, empty of course. A bunch of Trump loving idiots were in the empty parking lot with their pickup trucks, all in red, white, and blue,, star spangled clothing. The trucks all had US flags and Trump 2020 flags hanging out the backs.
They were congregating there for some pro-Trump vehicle parade. Two of my neighbors were amongst them. I suspect the whole thing was to show support for their ailing leader. None of them wearing masks, no social distancing, and hugging and kissing was happening too. They learn nothing.
I know I’m a terrible person-but I hope they all get covid.
There was a rally here this weekend too. It wasn’t that many people, thankfully, but it’s so disgusting.
Well, the team of doctors just said he was doing fine and could be discharged tomorrow, so I really don’t know what to believe. 🤔
Covid recovery that necessitates oxygen doesn’t resolve in a couple of days.
its all spin to show how strong he is – i read somewhere that there is a mini hospital in the WH, so it could be that they transfer his medical care to there, covering up how ill he really is. There they can do all the photo ops they can, propping him up when needed. They only need him to survive until after the election.
Ben Rhodes did an interview on MSNBC a few days ago and said that what’s available at the WH is not quite as elaborate as people think. He said that it’s an essentially an office with some medical equipment, but that diagnostic tests need to happen at a hospital. Since Rhodes worked for Obama, I’m going to take that at face value. He also said that dump having to go to Walter Reed means that the doctors felt he needed to be close by for more than basic treatment.
I just read a tweet that suggested that was released for Monday’s stock markets. Makes sense to me.
Yup. They’re going to drag it out day by day, but in reality he’s probably there for at least another week, if not more.
Thank you for the phrase ‘performative compassion’ because it is an absolutely perfect description of many of the news channels… Side-eye to Rachel Maddow especially
He was caught pretending like he was signing papers in what isn’t a room at the hospital and his quack of a doctor said he is being released tomorrow which tells me all of this is a huge lie. He’ll be up on Tuesday telling his followers what a hero he is for beating the “bad thing”.
What a lowlife.
He was in the presidential suite at Walter Reed. The Department of Defense runs the hospital, but the White House controls the presidential suite. It includes an intensive care unit, kitchen, and a secure conference room. White House Chief of Staff Meadows s his own office at Walter Reed, and there are sleeping quarters st Walter Reed for Trump’s personal physician also.
I hate him so much. He gets the best care and experimental drugs and it looks like is doing good. I can’t take it. I wanted him to really suffer. Maybe he will take a turn for the worse. I think I will have to do a news blackout today. I can’t take much more of Trump and how good he’s doing. I just can’t.
I feel gross for being glad this is happening. Thanks Dump.
So according to the BBC, the steroid treatment he has been given is *only* for severe or critical Covid and giving it to someone who isn’t that ill can make them worse as it’s designed to shut off a hyper response of the immune system (so there is no way it would be given as a precaution). Yet he’s apparently still well enough to be released tomorrow. That just doesn’t make sense.
Another thing that could complicate his recovery is amphetamine withdrawal. According to Webmd, symptoms of withdrawal from Adderall include depression, irritability, insomnia, fatigue, nausea, stomachaches, and vomiting.
National Security advisor was on television this morning saying Trump would be in the hospital for “a period of time.” Now Trump’s doctor says he’s improved enough to possibly be released tomorrow. None of this adds up. They need to get their stories straight. How is it even possible that someone his age and in his condition can improve so quickly that he can be released from the hospital after 2 days?
This is a good read on what happens when you let arrogance and ignorance take hold: https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-hope-hicks-test-positive-covid-19-doubters-become-possible-ncna1241934
He is making us not trust doctors this is the level of his egomania. God it’s all so fucking disappointing
The fake phone pics taken ten mins sort with a costume change!?!
The cough edit video
They are so shit at lying and propaganda
Indeed! Alrighty Then! Who Knew! Really!
This is how most Covid-19 patients who are or have been in the hospital record their battle with this disease! Signing papers, working hard, taking photos, wearing regular clothes, no hospital gown, no isolation room, wearing no PPE to protect everyone and everything one comes in contact with. That’s how they roll every day! BS/Bad Staging Donny 2 scoops!
Thing is, they think most people are really as stupid as they are.
He’s even got doctors covering up and lying for him. Will the lies ever end?
The doctors’ updates have a very Ministry of Propaganda feeling to them. I think he is not doing great, but also he is a liar so anyone who thinks he is faking is putting forth a totally rational assessment. I hate living in a George Orwell novel
I watched a Chris Hayes (MSNBC) interview with a NYC ER doctor on Friday night. She had COVID back in March and has treated tons of patients. She said what typically happens is that you feel ill for the first 3-5 days, then feel better for a few days. Then in days 7-10 most symptomatic people get MUCH worse and go to the hospital. That’s the same trajectory as Boris and seems right on schedule for Trump and his ‘early release’ tomorrow. Let’s see how he’s doing later this week.
To be clear, doctors are absolutely able to lie to the American people about the president’s health. It was done with FDR. Some people seem to be under the impression that the president’s doctors legally have to tell the truth. They have to be honest with their patients, but not with us.
Woodrow Wilson had a stroke while in office, more than likely caused by the Spanish Flu, and Americans didn’t know until much later.
At first I thought it was a ploy for the sympathy vote. I couldn’t watch the debates because of my blood pressure. The last debate I watched was when Trump was hovering behind Hillary like a prehistoric mammoth. I really wish that she would have turned around and told him to back the hell up. But, she was trying to take the high road. I think the Democrats need to start playing a little tougher, but smarter. Anyway, I think he’s really got it after the latest events. And since this virus has been shown to leave lingering and permanent damage neurologically, I think Trump will use it as an excuse to exit the POTUS position. Of course, he’s going to be guaranteed a full pardon of any wrongdoing by Pence.
Hmm, so the admin that yells “CHINA!” at their rabidly xenophobic base every chance they get is now acting just like… China.
This mutha fu**ka just did a drive by! He’s either faking everything or he is SO reckless and egotistical that he would put more people in danger for his ego boost. 🤯
The people and the media should rightly call him & his con artists of an administration out for it. Either he can’t fake it well or a blatant disregard for other people’s health. Either way, it doesn’t look good.
Simply incredible. Guess this was all a stunt after all and he’s just wasting taxpayer money to show how manly and healthy he is to beat Covid.
https://www.axios.com/trump-walter-reed-supporters-ddef32c8-b77f-4dcd-a822-0b1b7cb10987.html
If he was up to it he would have walked out with the doctors. I think he is worse than they say. No way would he have missed the opportunity to be in front of the camera. Nope, it made him crazy so he made the secret service drive him around so he could wave to the cameras.
Good Lord! The idiocy continues! Donny 2 scoops just did a drive by outside the hospital to wave at his supporters!
Please reread your statements. You all profess to be so “woke,” and compassionate. You pretend to take the “high road,” but you are cruel and uncaring. Worse, you seem to have a seething hatred for someone you have never met or never will meet.
You are what is wrong with this country.
Why is it that non Trump supporters are supposed to “go high” and show compassion and empathy but Trump and his cult can be as nasty and vicious as they want to everyone else.
What’s up with all the trumpers here? Have they not got anything better to do?!
Hahaha.
Just reread the comments under this post.
My sympathy is reflective of the sympathy he gave to Hilary Clinton when she had pneumonia, and the sympathy he’s given to the 209,000 American deaths that occurred due to covid.
I’d also add that just because you have compassion doesn’t mean you don’t have boundaries. I wouldn’t welcome Hitler, or Jeffrey dahmer to my dinner table. And i certainly won’t be embracing a president who single handedly denied the existence of a deadly virus and pandemic so he wouldn’t have to deal with the political fallout leading to thousands of deaths. I will reserve my sympathies to those deserving of it.
You are what is wrong with the country, passing judgement on people you have never met. This man asked for COVID and he got it. Period. His refusal to lead and protect Americans by being honest about what he knew early, instead of bald face lies, is the direct cause of many deaths. Facts are facts, masks in February would have saved Americans lives and I hope God will forgive him but I won’t. He is deserving of hatred. I hope I never do meet him.
I pray daily for the sick, grieving, and fools.
‘I thought you were ‘woke’,’ said every troll on this site ever. Good lord Karen, learn a new word.
Seriously? I haven’t said anything until now but I believe Donald Trump is an evil and abhorrent man that is a critical danger to our country and millions of lives around the world. He has no morals and has shown nothing but contempt for those that try to make our world a better place. I pray nightly and what I prayed for last night was that God’s will be done. I don’t pretend to know what that is but I know with 100% certainty that Donald Trump exhibits nothing that human beings are called to aspire to.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Thanks for the genuine belly laugh ‘Carry me home’.
Cruel and uncaring????!!!???? Trump, ill with a highly infectious disease, decided that he needed to do a drive-by for some of his fans lined up outside the hospital. Trump was in an SUV that literally was hermetically sealed. Inside the vehicle were Secret Service agents in full PPE. Trump put the lives of all those agents at risk because he needed some adulation. THAT is cruel and uncaring!!
Oh no how will I ever go on
There’s no real treatment, just partially effective solutions which may treat some symptoms (with collateral effects down the line) – if vital signs are bad, the outlook is not good.
It’s strange though that they’re not emphasizing the continuity measures embedded in the legislature: I expected Pence to be front and center right now. Or even the Republicans are just waiting for Biden to win and wear himself out fixing this mess? Romney/Ivanka 2024?
Did anyone else notice the basic repub trick they did with the doctor? It’s minor in the scale of things, but worth noting. They made him walk back what he said from 48 hours and 72 hours and replace it with 2 days and 3 days. It’s the same amount of time, just written differently. It’s an old republican trick. It fools your eyes into thinking you read a smaller amount of time when actually it’s the same amount of time. So when asked under oath, he didn’t lie. Why might he be asked under oath? Only one reason comes to mind.
I wouldn’t wish for anyone’s death, but I hope he’s scared. I hope he feels like he’s going to die.