Selena Gomez hosted one of the All In Challenge’s Voting Power Hours over the weekend. Power Hours allows fans to call in and speak to that night’s celebrity host about voting in return for agreeing to text at least three friends to tune in. I watched chunks of Selena’s Power Hour, it’s a good initiative and very well designed for the demographic. The first few minutes shows trivia on the screen like a movie theater does before the previews and it’s all based on voting – from the last election’s stats to historical referendums and why we vote when we do –it was probably my favorite part of the whole thing. Selena, who signed on as a co-chair to Michelle Obama’s When We All Vote Initiative last November, has been very vocal about getting folks out to vote this year. She used Juneteenth to implore fans to register because, “Everyone needs to have their voices heard.” During her Power Hour, though, one fan asked Selena, who turned 28 in July, to recount her first voting experience and Selena said that this (she filled out her mail in ballot) is her first time voting, because it’s the first time she felt her vote mattered.
Selena Gomez admitted this weekend during her Voting Power Hour appearance that this is her first time voting in a U.S. election because in the past, she felt like her vote didn’t matter. (Gomez lives in California, a solidly blue state.)
Sam, a 20-year-old super texter in Michigan, asked Gomez about her first voting experience. She responded candidly, “Honestly, I’m not ashamed to say this but I kind of—this was my first time. And I’m going to say that because I never felt—and this is so true—and I’m now like admitting it to people, like my vote counts. Like, every little thing counts so I just think some people get in their head, like, oh well, what does it matter? And then once I really, really started going in and diving in to this, it’s been all I can focus on.”
Both the Elle link above or this YouTube link has the full Power Hour interview. The question comes at minute 48:00. I’m having some real trouble with this. A 28-year-old woman today has skipped two national elections. Not to mention senatorial, congressional, gubernatorial, mayoral, state and local elections. During Selena’s introduction comments with Damian Chazelle, she claims that she has always seen herself as an activist because she has been a UNICEF ambassador since she was 16. Kaiser forwarded me these articles, both of which have Selena encouraged people to register to vote, in 2008, when she was 16 and in 2012, an election year, in which she would have been 20. Selena has some political interests about which she is passionate. She made the Living Undocumented series for Netflix to shed light on the plight of immigrant life in the US. Plus, she’s been a big advocate for mental health. And I’d hoped she’d consider the fight for universal healthcare to assist those with pre-existing conditions given her health struggles. CB reminded me that in 2017, Selena was happy to sport some Nasty Woman fashion post-Grammys after not saying much during the election.
At this point, we do need every voice. It’s good that Selena is getting the vote out now. I am taken aback that she’s not ashamed that she didn’t vote in 2016 given where we are now. I’ve voted in every election since 1988 (also in solidly blue California, thankyouverymuch) and I’m ashamed of some of those votes. I’ve become more informed, more aware. I’ve also felt like my vote wouldn’t count on several occasions. But I also knew it might count on at least some issues and for the candidates down ballot. I hope Selena keeps her fervor into the next election and I hope she takes the time to inform those around her that every election matters. We didn’t magically arrive at this hellscape we live in.
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When will people get it in their heads that the state and local elections are important and we wouldn’t be in as much as a mess if people had voted. That’s how the crazy right wingers were able to take control of state legislatures, gerrymander and and put in place so many voter suppression laws. And once they had local and state legislatures locked up, next step was national elections and now here we are in the mess we’re in. Every election is important and every vote counts. If your vote didn’t count, people wouldn’t waste so much time and effort in preventing you from voting.
Exactly. Well said.
I just don’t get not exercising your right to vote. As a woman I’m aware how hard women fought for the right to vote and here some are having never voted. I’m glad she’s voting in this election because even solidly blue states are representing for Trump, so every vote counts.
My parents and grandparents drummed into my head the importance of voting. And being a child of the sixties I witnessed the efforts that went into securing voting rights. And I drummed it into my children’s heads the importance of exercising their voting rights and I’m proud to say they take it as serious as I do.
I don’t understand it either. I have voted in every election since 1992. Even in my twenties when I was dumb and destroying my brain cells with nightly partying, I still voted. Also proud to say I have only voted for Democrats.
I’m glad Selena finally voted but she should definitely be ashamed it’s her first time.
Yup, this! It’s not just about POTUS, it’s about everything else: the propositions that are on the ballot, the judges, the state and municipal representatives and this is where your vote counts. Trump wouldn’t have been able to cause so much damages if there wasn’t so many lunatics in power at the local level
Exactly this. In her book “Dark Money”, Jane Mayer documents the Koch Brothers slowly, consistently, persistently doing this over the course of decades – influencing judge elections, state legislator elections – to ensure gerrymandering by legislatures upheld by courts. That’s why a state like North Carolina, which went approximately 50-50 Dem/GOP in overall voting in 2018, ended up with 3 Democratic Congresspeople and 11 GOP. And ballot questions are consistently being funded by well-funded interests hiding behind Astroturfed organizations.
Another example is that Kentucky clerk troll Kim Davis who made herself a hero to the right by refusing to issue a marriage license to a gay couple. She had some elected clerk position that had been held by her family for decades because it was voted in off-year election cycles that had low turnout.
maybe because public schools do a half ass job these days? my government class consisted of watching movies and multiple choice quizzes…maybe give schools more money and not just the ones in “good neighborhoods”… I’ve voted in every election since I turned 18, although I have left some races blank, because I did not know enough on the material.
Public schools are underfunded because some in government benefit from it… Which is why it’s important to vote in local elections and try to get involved. That’s how the system can be changed and that schools, not just the ones in rich districts, will get money
Yeah no sweetie, it was always important that you voted. It’s okay to grow and admit that you made mistakes in the past like not voting. But not voting when you have the opportunity, is a mistake. You should, at least, be ashamed Selena. She didn’t feel the need to vote for the first female president or against Trump who never hid who he was or how he felt about undocumented immigrants? Your vote definitely doesn’t matter if you don’t cast it at all. Growing from ignorance is okay, we’re only human. However, we can’t pretend like that ignorance isn’t harmful to others.
eye roll….I didn’t vote for the Hilary because she was a woman….LAME comment
There celebrities are so out of touch from reality. Voting should be done from the very age you are allowed to vote. It’s shame people like this celebrity fail to use their democratic rights to vote for change, to vote for good. What a waste of years when not using that power of voting. I hate these celebrities now coming out at the ages of 28 to mid who’ are openly bragging this is the first time they are voting in their life. Such ignorant remarks and what a waste of their platforms to not inspire others to do so .
I guess we are supposed to praise them for having the courage to come forward to vote once in their lives.
And not only presidential elections but every other elections too. But she is just way to privileged to see that. To think that she went on and made $$ with a Netflix doc about Trump immigration policies and never even bothered to do the most important and impactful thing which is voting. Only $$$ matter to theses celebrities which is why no one should listen to them.
Yeah I find it particularly egregious that she was a part of a documentary on undocumented immigrants and not only didn’t vote in 2016, but doesn’t openly regret it?
No, Jane Fonda, you are not an activist because you leant your image to a charity.
I don’t know where she’s registered to vote but if it’s California, I understand. If it’s in Texas, it’s kinda dumb, but maybe she felt like conservatives kept winning and there was no point,until 2016 where we saw how some states flipped. Either way she already owned up to it so it seems pretty dumb of people to pile on her to say the exact same thing that she has said and owned up to already.
dont you think that by putting her name on the doc more people watched it? that’s pretty much the only reason these projects reach out to celebrities…
I dont see bragging at all, just a simple acknowledgment. I dont like businesses advertising politics….auto zone i dont need to see you’re a supporter of trump with that huge banner….celebrities are a business of self promotion, so I can see why you wouldnot like it….but I won’t judge people on not voting when they turned 18. When you’re that young priorities are different and you learn as you get older.
“she claims that she has always seen herself as an activist because she has been a UNICEF ambassador since she was 16.”
This is such a hollow vacuous notion of what ‘activism’ is, I just can’t. Granted, she was 16 and lived in a bubble. But still! Girl, making a few speeches & taking photos & whatever ambassadors do– that is purely cosmetic! UNICEF didn’t pick you as ambassador because of your activist bona fides, they picked you as ambassador because you’re a recognizable star who can draw attention to what the *actual* activists are doing. (like the royals with patronage)
This just to me speaks to the larger problem about the Hollywood ecosystem: the idea for these rich people that representing an organization like UNICEF is the same as actually *doing* the work of UNICEF. Or, like, representing BLM is the same as marching, organizing rallies, writing letters to state representatives, etc. Representation (in this sense) is not the same as activism!
Sure, be an ambassador but you also need to get your hands dirty too! At least vote!!!
Just justify everything I think about her. She is fake and nothing that she does is genuine just like her bestie Taylor Swift. She went on a voting campaign with Michelle Obama and never even bothered to vote even when Trump was calling her people all kind of names.
I wouldn’t put her and Taylor in the same seat. I can’t believe I’ve been defending Taylor lately and I hope she doesn’t make me regret this. Still, I think that once Taylor started speaking up she educated herself and have shown that there’s substance there. I feel like she is really all in with what she’s saying and doing and I hope she continues. I don’t feel the same way about this one, but hopefully she will prove me wrong.
Yeah, Taylor isn’t the same situation. First, she’s talked about voting since she turned 18. Second, I think she has shown herself to be very well-educated and thoughtful when she speaks out on social and political issues. I wish Taylor had started being outspoken sooner, but I appreciate that now that she feels empowered to do so, she does it with conviction.
Angel, your comment here makes you sound like a mugxit here!
The article above said she signed on with Michelle last November.
‘everything about her is fake just like her bestie Taylor’ is just unhinged criticism.
Selena is a reflection of a very real issue amongst young people (low voter turnout). I think she did a dumb thing but no reason to pile on now.
She is a trend follower. That’s it. If she did not see the uptick in celebs out here campaigning or fundraising, she would have stayed out of this one too.
She literally wore clothing in support of HRC bit didn’t vote for her. Tells you everything you need to know.
That’s my take on her as well. She just doesn’t seem like a great person to me.
As someone who used to stan her for several years, I can attest to her not being the brightest bulb/sharpest knife/etc. That she lacks shame is more likely a testament to her cluelessness, rather than apathy for the implications of her non-votes. I’ve been pleasantly surprised by her activities of late, however, and hope she’s genuine in her commitment to multiple causes.
Appropriate that her intro comments were with Damian Chazelle, because Selena has apparently been living in LaLa Land for the past decade.
She should be ashamed. An activist who doesn’t vote?! I’ve never been a Selena fan. I find her to be all around mediocre but this confirms my ideas about her.
Selena was also very late to the BLM movement. SHe openly said a hashtag didn’t matter just a few years ago. But Mr Trump has opened a lot of eyes and better late than never
If she did not vote in the past, she is a lot like the people she is reaching out to.
Why shame her now? She’s correcting it.
Em, I agree. I imagine there are MANY 28 year olds who have not voted. Coming late to the party is better than never arriving at all.
Hard agree. We can’t turn back time, we just need to get as many people to vote as possible.
I’m disappointed that she didn’t bother voting in the past, but yeah, maybe it’s for the best that she admitted that to relate with others who have avoided voting before BUT now feel the urge to change their behavior. I don’t think it helps for people to feel “shamed” into voting… it’s better to feel empowered, no?
Maybe if they’re trend followers they’ll follow people like Selena to the polls. This is why I applaud anyone who says they voted, because praise/validation helps some do their civic duty.
Yes, guilt and shame are not particularly helpful emotions. (My psychiatrist would be proud.) Would I be ashamed if I hadn’t voted? Yes, but that’s my own deal. Shaming people about not voting is not going to make them want to vote and that’s what we need right now.
There are a lot of people out there who don’t vote because they don’t think it will matter. It’s not that uncommon. It’s one of the many reasons that Trump got voted in. So many people thought their vote wouldn’t matter in 2016 because there was no way Trump could win. So, they either didn’t bother or voted third party. People need to realize that they aren’t the only person thinking that way. There’s thousands who agree with them. If all of those people voted than it would have made a huge difference. So, even if you feel like yours won’t matter, you need to vote anyway. It’s the non voters who decide to vote this year that will really matter the most.
Yes, exactly this! It’s so frustrating. It’s our civic duty. One woman flew from Maryland to Florida to cast her ballot and turned back around to fly back because her absentee ballot never showed up. The idea that you are the special exception who doesn’t have to vote…
Sadly I agree, especially if you’re in a state that’ solidly blue or solidly red, I suppose it’s easy to think your vote for POTUS doesn’t matter. Where it DOES matter though is all the little local elections, that actually have a huge impact on people’s lives. My town has had the same GOP led council for something like 20 years, and everyone complains about them, but the percentage of people who actually vote in some of those off year elections is appalling low.
I’m really glad she’s voting now and getting involved, and I hope she continues to vote the rest of her life, but I am going to judge her for sitting out in 2016. Even if she knew her state was going to Hillary, you vote against that orange turd.
Not surprised she’s the same person who thought black lives matter was just a hashtag and wouldn’t make a diffrence.
Nah. All she was saying is that actions matter more than just writing in/ typing a hashtag.
Anyway glad she’s finally seeing that every vote counts. No use in shaming anyone for not voting in the past.
I’m a voter registrar, and registered an 80 year old woman who will be voting for the first time in this election.
Good for her! Better now than never.
Absolutely! I work in a public library (and we’re an early voting site), and it’s sad that so many people are confused about how to vote, or afraid to come to vote. We’ve been getting bombarded with questions since just after Labor day. Good news is that we’re averaging about 800 early voters/day, and 100+ mail in ballots in our ballot box.
That is good to hear! Thanks for that.
She should’ve been afraid to admit that. It undermines everything she’s ever said about social and political issues. What a moron.
She’ll get a pass because she’s cute to the masses, but I agree with you. At least express regret and embarrassment even if you don’t actually feel too cut up inside. It’s really what she should feel, but it’s certainly what she should express but as I said, she is considered cute, so no one will hold it against her too much. Also let’s face it, we need every Biden/Harris vote we can secure so…
I wonder what can be done to convince more Americans to take civic engagement seriously? It makes no sense that so many people with the right to vote simply choose not to do so and it’s especially difficult to understand this behavior in privilege people who have time on their hands with no trouble getting to the polls.
My college freshman voted for the first time, and I am so proud!
Better late than never. I cannot understand how she skipped the last presidential election, but whatever. I hope she continues to participate in local elections now, too.
Lots of people have not voted in the past, and there can be multiple reasons for that. Selena might actually be a good example, as she shows that it is possible to get over your apathy and initiate change with your individual vote. Lets hope that she, along with other abstainers, vote every chance they get for the rest of their life.
It is astounding to me that a woman of color, who is as vocal as she is isn’t ashamed to admit this. I think it points so clearly to her privilege. She’s rich and successful, so often the results of local elections and elections in general touch ppl in her tax bracket last, so why care, ya know? What does it mean that she was working to get out the vote without actually thinking it mattered for her to do the same? Especially for the 2016 election, she didn’t clock Donald Trumps clear racism against the Black and Latinx community as a warning sign? His misogyny was chill enough to sit out the election then? These past 4 years of foolishness were forecast by Trump and his team the entire step of the way of the 2016 election. I’m blown away by people who have been seemingly politically engaged for awhile, who are calling this election as their awakening to the importance of voting. She’s only exercising her right to vote TEN YEARS after being able to vote, with the ways the presidency and local elections directly effect issues she has spoken up about *without voting*. I appreciate what she’s been doing on Instagram to give a platform to BLM protestors and be more actively political, so I’m glad shes is engaged but yikes😬.
She may be half Latina, but she’s a white woman
I just don’t understand this. As a black woman, my grandmother literally could not vote at my age until the voting rights act was passed. We are so close to that history. Why can’t people see that?? Especially women and women of color. My first election was the Clinton/Obama primary that I voted in when I was newly 18 years old. I remember being so jazzed to vote because my AP government teacher was so good and effective and because my parents always voted and talked about these things. We need civics back in school and We need parents to teach their kids that we VOTE. glad Selena is here now and that’s she’s creating a permission structure for those who have also never voted to come out and vote but she should absolutely feel ashamed.
This was kind of shocking and disappointing. It would partially explain why she defended Taylor Swift so hard when people were questioning whether or not she voted for Hillary. Encouraging others to vote for Hillary when she couldn’t even bother to do it herself, with everything we knew about Trump and his supporters then is a special kind of phoney. Better late than never, I guess, and she’s admitting her contribution to the problem when she could have just kept up the lie to look woke. But wow.
“Honestly, I’m not ashamed to say this but I kind of—this was my first time. “
Huh. Because you probably should be – that’s some incredibly stupid, privileged bullshit you just spit up right there and it’s a huge reason why we’re in this nightmare to begin with. 28 is way too old to be indulging in this naive garbage, but as we see every four years, this kind of stupidity is timeless.
Congrats on finally pulling your head out of your ass? Why do people say this shit like it’s something to be proud of?
She will always been fine, whether she votes or not.
Exactly!
Also, many upper middle class women who are voting for Trump knows that no matter what happens they will be fine. Need an abortion and can’t get it in America, perfect time to go on a vacation to a country that allows you to get a safe abortion. Unfortunately for some people the issue has to affect them personally for them to take action, it’s why racism and sexism are still a problem. Those who are racist has no idea what it feels like to have racism directed at them and men are well, men.
If she was living in a very blue part of California this whole time, I can *kind of* see it. My D congresswoman wins in a landslide every two years, the last senate race was D vs. D, the state assembly and senate races are generally not competitive or if they are it’s because it’s two Democrats running. So you have to get down to city council, school board, and the bazillion propositions we always have on the ballot before your vote “counts”. And those are important votes to but it usually takes more research and effort to figure out which way you want to vote. I think it’s pretty stupid of her not to have been voting all along but I also kind of get it.
@Cate I lived in West L.A. until I was 40. This kind of thinking got Reagan and Schwarzenegger elected as Governors. “We don’t need to vote because our candidate will win in a landslide.” At some point, that changes and you’re stuck with a complete asshole, like The dangerous Dumpster Fire. People thought Hillary would win. I remember watching the election results with a bunch of first time voters and reassuring them “Don’t worry. There’s no way Trump is going to win.”
@Cate I agree. I think it’s morally wrong to not vote, but if you’re voting in a deep-blue city like Los Angeles or New York City, I can understand her reasoning too.
I live in NYC. I decided to vote by mail-in ballot instead of in person this year, because Covid cases are rising in my area and there’s an immuno-compromised guy in my pandemic pod. If I lived in a state like Pennsylvania, Florida, or Ohio, I would have made every effort to vote in person.
I admire her honesty now, but it’s odd she was telling people to go out and vote in the past, when she herself didn’t. Just like how Kanye wants people to vote for him yet the motherf*cker has never voted before.
Again I think the Dems are reaching out to the suburban soccer moms, undecided, anarchists, dis-enfranchised, Black male white supremacy supporters et al.
All the above have created a toxic dangerous message that allowed Hillary to be falsely demonized and Trump to steal an election. Now with RGB gone and ACB on the Supreme Court Bench, people are starting to realise just how calamitous not voting is.
I applaud the Dems for this level of pragmatism bc America you’re gonna need everyone on board to get Trump out of Le Maison Blanc. Less than a landslide and I strongly suspect he will challenge the election result. He has refused to commit publicly to a peaceful handover so it needs to be a humiliating landslide.
She will be far from alone on this and I think it’s good that she shares her story with others and shows that it’s never too late to engage with the process. Now, should she be ‘ashamed’ having claimed to be an activist for all these yeas? Possibly. But she’s doing the right thing now.
Personally, I was born the year before Thatcher came to power here in the UK so had almost nothing but the conservatives until 1997, the year I was first able to vote. My friends and I took my car and drove round each of our polling stations (for those of us who had turned 18) during our lunch break on election day then stayed up at someones house to watch the results come in. It felt amazing.
I also remember waking up in 2008 and being so nervous going downstairs to turn the news on and see what had happened in the US. Seems I get very invested in politics even when it’s not the country I live and vote in!
I’m ashamed for her….
She didn’t vote in 2016?? F her.
Essentially, she did vote in the last election. She voted for Trump.
I don’t think this is weird or shameful whatsoever. You have trouble with this? I don’t think she cares whether you have trouble with it or not. She was probably touring or shooting at the time of other elections. I didn’t vote for president in 2012 because I was away, and I didn’t vote for president in 2016 because I didn’t like either candidate, and I live in an even more overwhelmingly blue state, so no, it didn’t really “matter” at that point. Also to say that we wouldn’t be “in this mess” if people voted is ridiculous. Politicians on both sides are corrupt with money, corporation kickbacks, and the system itself is messed up on both sides no matter what Obama – Harris – RGB – good-natured type is elected. But I did vote via mail-in ballot this year, at age 39, so I agree with and relate to what she says.
No. Just no.
I’m proud of her. She’ll get dragged for what she admitted, but a lot of young people are in the same boat. So many young people DON’T VOTE and this is her acknowledging she hears them and understands their perspective, but it’s not that scary to make the leap.
I’m not going to shame someone for past mistakes once they realize every vote counts. That’s a great way to squash the conversation. My fiance, who had never voted until this election, was nervous to ask questions about the process for fear he’d be judged. Let’s not further that atmosphere.
I hate this current trend of being proud to not be shameful or express regret. Like, oh I’m not ashamed at all. It’s ok and healthy to experience that emotion….it’s a sign that you can do better. If you are eligible to vote and you’re not going to spend the minutes it takes to vote, if you don’t consider it as being important or a civic duty, then you have no right to complain about the current state of affairs or try to be holier than thou about telling people to vote for popularity.
I agree, and I also think it’s an inevitable by-product of our current culture of online shaming.* I see it as a pre-emptive strike: “You can’t shame me, because I’m unshameable!”
*which to be clear I’m not necessarily opposed to. I am fine with shaming a**holes who won’t wear their goddamned masks.
@EM, respectfully disagree. The goal is to GET PEOPLE TO VOTE. A purity contest for the Democracy Debutante Ball makes us feel righteous, but it doesn’t motivate anyone to stand in line and do the thing.
I’m also just tired of making young women responsible for our crumbling nation.
I mean society spends so much energy telling teen girls their voices aren’t important, and then gets mad when they don’t prioritize voting? Republicans have been making it harder for college students to vote for decades. Politicians have been putting the concerns of the wealthy and elderly over the needs of younger people forever. I’m not gonna judge her for being cynical.
Exactly! Selena isn’t the issue here.
I think this speaks to the larger issue of child stars not receiving a quality education on television and movie sets. Also, she did not attend college and it has been proven that the more education you have, the more likely you will be attuned to societal issues. I don’t blame Selena and at least she is learning now. We need to address the issue of how education is valued in this country. She is a symptom not the problem.
I respectfully disagree. You can’t completely opt out and not participate and blame it on society discrediting women and minorities. That’s a slap in the face to all the hardworking people who may feel marginalized but make damn sure they vote in person or by mail. It’s doable. People didn’t die in vain for the right to vote so that people can claim they didn’t vote because they feel they don’t matter. Let’s be real, in all likelihood it was out of laziness or lack of caring. Let’s not pretend she doesn’t have access or that she reflected on the topic long enough to come to an educated conclusion that, no, her vote didn’t matter.
I was 18 the first time I could vote in a national election in Germany. We were so excited to vote, we were debating parties and policies for months. I used to vote Social Democrat but switched to Green quickly. I can’t imagine not voting even once, even in smaller local elections. We have 16 states, and states decide a lot. But voting in Germany is ridiculously easy. You are notified, elections are on Sundays and voting by mail is super easy.
Selena isn’t the devil for not voting earlier, it’s just baffling. And shame or regret are useful. Let’s not be proud of everything.
Good on her for finally realizing that all votes matter. Hopefully she reaches out to the many others who feel like she did.
I mean I haven’t voted since 2008. I get it. I get what can go behind that decision. So I applaud her for doing her civic duty in other ways and stepping forward.
I’m not gonna shame her for it. Better late than never.
She lives in California. I know people who before trump just didn’t think their vote matter because they live in a safe state or city. And then there’s people who think that they aren’t well informed enough on the issues, so they don’t vote.
And then there’s the flip side. People who vote, but they have no clue about the candidates or the issues they’re voting for. One time in college, one of my housemate said she just randomly chose a name during the primary. She had no clue who she was voting for. And then there’s my aunt who is completely politically illiterate, but decided (or was convinced) eons ago that she’s a republican, so she always votes straight ticket. She’s the epitome of a low information voter. I’ve tried asking her why she’s a gop, and she couldn’t articulate it. She stood in line to vote today and I wouldn’t be surprised at all to find out that she voted for trump.
It is partially the fault of those who sat 2016 out or voted for Jill Stein. It’s also the fault of social media for supporting all the lies.
It’s four years later and I think people are a little wiser because currently we are looking death in the face quite literally. Trump barely scraped by in the battleground states last time and lost the popular vote. Some people didn’t want to vote for Hillary because “she’s a woman” and didn’t want to vote for trump because “he’s a bastard”. This time it’s a man running against a man which changes the situation entirely. I don’t think the US will ever be ready for a woman president if it keeps treating its female population like second class citizens. The day that women are seen as equal to men in the workplace, in public and in the home will be the day that pendulum swings over to the possibility of a female POTUS.
Biden wasn’t my ideal for POTUS either (I was hoping for younger blood, like Beto) but it is what it is and in four years hopefully it will be someone else.
But people did vote for Hilary. She got 3 million more vote than that dumpster fire.