Something that still makes me laugh, whenever I really think about it: the fact that the British papers don’t have anything else on the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. Harry and Meghan got a Netflix deal, they made their own money, they bought their own house, they have their own mortgage, and they’re paying for their own sh-t. The Windsors said “sink or swim” and the Sussexes swam far, far away and the whole thing triggered the f–k out of the British press. The British media has been left largely neutered when it comes to H&M now – members of the press are left suggesting new punishments for Harry & Meghan, or pushing pathetic attempts at emotional blackmail. Behold: Prince Charles “misses his grandson.”
Prince Charles has told of his sadness at not seeing grandson Archie for more than a year. The Queen and other members of the Royal Family are also said to be ‘very sad’ that they have seen so little of the toddler, who is now almost 18 months old.
His parents Harry and Meghan left for North America last November – living first in Vancouver, Canada, and then moving to Los Angeles in March. It has now been over 12 months since any of the Windsors has seen him, save for occasional video calls. And there is no suggestion that they will see him soon as the Sussexes are reported to be spending Christmas in their £11million nine-bedroom mansion in the exclusive coastal enclave of Montecito.
A Sussex source said: ‘They are now in their own family home, which they haven’t had properly before. It’s theirs, it’s their forever home, where they are going to base themselves. Archie is moving about and is lively and they’re having a great time.’ Harry and Meghan were due back in the UK in January, but that now looks unlikely.
A friend said: ‘The Prince of Wales enjoyed popping into Frogmore Cottage to see his youngest grandchild and is sad that he hasn’t seen him for so long. He has missed much of his development since he is now growing up in the USA. Other members of the family are very sad at not seeing him. Everyone really misses Archie – they feel it’s particularly sad for the Queen and Prince Philip. Harry always said he looked forward to raising his family with William’s – which of course is not now happening.’
I actually think Charles is mostly on Harry & Meghan’s side, but he’s still Charles and he still won’t stand up to William’s threats and tantrums and bullsh-t. So this is what happens: a disaster entirely of the Windsors’ making. Charles misses his grandson Archie? Charles could have stood up and helped the Sussexes when it would have made a difference. The Queen “misses” Archie? She couldn’t even be bothered to say his name in her 2019 Christmas address. Shouldn’t the Queen and Charles be more focused on seeing the Cambridge children, since that’s the bargain they made with William? They allowed William to push his brother out so Will could have the spotlight all to himself. Let’s hear more about how often Charles and the Queen see the Cambridge kids. Because I bet it’s not very often.
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You reap what you sow, so be a man and have your courtiers pull up your tailored pants for you Charles. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.
Once Archie becomes an adult and understands what they did to his mother and father, he will want no part of that toxic family.
And what they did to his grandmother Diana.
I haven’t forgotten that some many of the original leaks came from Charles’ camp. William gets a lot of the blame, but there’s plenty to go around.
Exactly – the real torture for H&M began with Jobson and it snowballed from there.
Yeah. Charles is on Charles’ side, no one esle’s.
WIlliam is an arseh0le but he learned from the best.
Charles is not the victim. It’s gross that he thinks he is.
oh do p*ss off. what a load of nonsense. I’m sure Charles misses Harry, Meghan and Archie but I doubt he said anything of the sort and I’m pretty sure he never “popped” in to Frogmore. And as for TQ, I’m bitterly disappointed in her and her behaviour.
True! Charles never “pops” into anywhere.
If Charles REALLY misses them, he has NO PROBLEM popping on a private jet to get anywhere, so he can haul a$$ to Calif on a “private” trip, and after quarantining at the Ritz in Santa Barbara (taking over the entire top floor for his POs, natch!), then he can see his grandson (if H&M will allow it, of course!). It’s not as if his diary is as full as it was pre-pandemic.
But we don’t hear a thing like this, BECAUSE HE’D NEVER MAKE THE EFFORT TO, pandemic or NOT. We know enough about Charles to know he’s a whiny, petty f#ck who would feel THEY should schlep Archie to HIM.
I doubt the Queen misses anyone. Didn’t Harry have to make an appointment to speak to his grandmother about leaving the RF and was told to put what he wanted in writing, hence the leak? What sort of family are they that he has to book an appointment to speak to his gran, rather than just going to her home for a cuppa and a chat. It’s protocol and pr before family with this shower of shites.
“She” (courtiers) made him wait an ENTIRE MONTH for an “appointment”.
Charles should have helped the Sussexes out then instead of staying silent. As should have Liz. And when the Sussexes were living in her garden, I doubt Liz came down to visit as much as they say she did
The biggest disappointment about Charles (aside from the adultery, gaslighting, emotional abuse), is that he is such a spineless person. A coward through and through. He could have been a great monarch had it not been for his cowardice.
I think, unfortunately, this is just the expected (but no less tragic) outcome of a family that is also an institution like the Royal Family.
Their #1 goal is to protect The Monarchy, and if the family part of “the Royal Family” is sacrificed, so be it. The Monarchy will always come first.
He has 3 white grandkids in the UK, he should focus on them…..the biracial grandkid was compared to a chimp and spineless Charles said nothing……. he can go cry me a river to whomever he wants.
I thought these people would stop talking about H&M&A….my goodness, it must be exhausting; there is a family who wants attention in the UK, please please give it to them!
Exactly! He is a posher, colder and shadier version of TM, the other father. He also whined when the Midds effectively blocked access to his other grand kids. Shame on you Charles for trading your son for good press. Shame on you.
It’s funny, the way we always talk about Thomas’ narcissism but never Charles’. It may actually feel more insidious to H&M for it’s quieter manner. My daughter and I haven’t seen my father since she was Archie’s age. But, along the way, we have found other people to fill that void – and are happier and healthier for it. There is the family you are born to – and then there is the family you choose.
I don’t agree that Charles is equal or worse than Thomas.
I do believe Meghan genuinely likes Charles. Her smile and curtsy to him at Commonwealth was rather different to everyone else. A warmer smile compared to the half zen, half nervous smile she gave for everyone. I do think Charles genuinely likes her too-from his nicknane for her and the framing of the photo of him walking her down the aisle . But Harry’s daddy issues and Charles being too afraid to do anything publicly got in the way. I also think he got annoyed with the KP drama and even Meghan, but not in the abusive Thomas way
I don’t think Charles have done anything to hurt Meghan directly. In fact, he may have been a quiet supporter on the side. I don’t know how bothered Meghan is about his lack of public support, but I believe most of the heat comes from Harry’s already tense relationship with him because of Diana
@CC, I mostly agree. I think Charles always looks out for himself first, and is unable (for various reasons) to put his kids’ needs above his own. I mean, look, he had terrible role models for how to be an emotionally available father in TQ and PP. But I’ve never doubted his love for Harry, and his warm relationship with Meghan did feel genuine. She, more than most people, understands how complicated families (especially dysfunctional ones) can be, and I think this understanding caused her to cut Charles a little more slack, perhaps, because she got him, and she knew him to be generally kind and fun, despite his inability to stand up to William (an inability I believe stems from the hierarchical dynamics of the family, but also a lot of residual guilt about Diana, and how much more William was able to understand at that time than Harry – Charles doesn’t dare anger William because he’s afraid of losing him completely). I believe Harry’s anger toward Charles will thaw in the coming years, esp. after TQ passes. I believe Charles will want Harry to have a meaningful presence at his coronation and show that Harry is now, will be, and has always been his much loved son. But who knows…this fam always manages to surprise me. 🙂
I don’t think Charles is Thomas with money–I think the Firm as a whole is basically Thomas with money and manners, but not Charles. I think Charles is the epitome of the warning my parents gave me when I was a child: these white people who are your friends might not have your back when push comes to shove. They will like you and be nice to you and enjoy your company, but when it comes to standing up for you, they might not be there, or worse, they might stand against you. That’s Charles to me: the fair weather white friend whose company you can enjoy, but is dangerous to trust.
William controls access to his kids from the RF – its well known that Chuck doesn’t see much of the Cambridge grandchildren as he would like. Whereas the Mids get full access. They are a weapon to be used to get Charles to do what William wants.
The first grandchild in our family was born a few months before my mom died. She *ALWAYS* wanted to be a “young grandmother” and when my SIL was pregnant, my mom was over the moon, couldn’t do enough for her/them incl. getting her the nursery furniture she wanted, clothes…anything my SIL wanted, my mom did. When the baby was born (3 mos. before my mom ended up passing), my mom was just so happy.
TLTR: One night we were waiting for my Bro (a TOTAL piece of milquetoast) to join us for dinner; SIL was already there with the baby, and my mom was holding her. The min. my brother walked in SIL went to grab the baby out of my mother’s arms to give her to my bro. My mom said, “ok, I’ll give her to him”. “No, she’s MY BABY and if you don’t like what I want, then we won’t come here again”. My mom got up, handed her the baby, and said, “Honey, there’s the door. You can take your baby and leave”.
SIL was stunned she couldn’t use the baby as a weapon.
@(TheOG) Jan90067
My SIL pulled the same thing with my parents! They are still living (thank goodness), but her behavior has injured them in a way that hurts my heart to think about. All for petty displays of power! Now she has calmed down, but there is an underlying feeling that she can turn at any moment, which keeps the rest of us from trusting her completely.
Of course, she will get her just desserts, when my nephew grows up and chooses his own partner. She is teaching him that family of origin does not matter at all, and she will discover the folly of that when he eventually abandons her completely for his wife or husband.
Incidentally, I think that’s what’s happening with the Royals. They choose again and again to protect the Firm, at the expense of the Family. And then they are shocked when their family bonds are thin or brittle. I hope Harry can escape the cycle.
Most of all, I am sorry for your loss, Jan. Your mother sounds like an awesome lady.
@Elizabeth Regina –exactly; Charles is Thomas Markle with money and a better PR team; that’s all!
I think Charles only sees the Cambridge’s kids where there’s a photo op, so they can pretend to be one big happy family. I think he would like to see them more, but I don’t think he’s as fussed as people think. This is a man who left the hospital to play polo the day his son was born.
Didn’t Cam say (re: her grands, very young at the time) that Charles has no patience or like of *very* young kids; it’s only once they’re old enough to talk and understand about HIS likes (garden etc) that he gets “interested” in that way.
Lord literally someone tell them to just adopt a baby and leave Archie and his parents alone it’s embarrassing 😩😩!
Maybe do some videochat. Wiliiam looks like he’s having the time of his life in the last pic.
Hahaha that was well put 😆👏👏
He would be missing him anyway. The royals may have forgotten, but there’s a pandemic on.
But maybe if Charles had stood up for his son, daughter in law and grandson a bit more, he’d at least be missing Archie in the same country.
THIS IS MY THING!!!! Do I believe that Charles misses Archie? Yes, I do (of course he had a role to play in Sussexit and this kind of emotional blackmail doesn’t help). But I can believe that he loves his grandchild and misses him (whatever “love” means for the royals).
Do I think the Queen misses him? eh, probably not. She’s probably fine getting an occasional picture or something. And I also do think that at least Charles would have seen Archie at some point over the past year were it not for the pandemic.
BUT since there IS a pandemic happening, so even if the Sussexes were still in the UK, Charles probably wouldn’t have seen him. The Queen certainly would not have seen him. We aren’t hearing how much Charles is hanging out with the Cambridge kids.
This, exactly. So many loved ones are separated right now, so many grandparents don’t have access to their grandchildren, so many family milestones are being missed. It’s really too bad that Charles was so spineless as to let his own son, daughter-in-law, and grandson be bullied off to another continent but overall his situation is not uniquely tragic.
Then he should’ve stood up for Archie’s mom.
WORD UP.
Actually i would like to know how many times Charles saw Archie before Meghan and Harry left the UK.
Also how often is he seeing George and his siblings…
The rumor was that Will went out of his way to keep Charles away from his kids except for official gatherings.
But I doubt Charles ever “popped over” anywhere in his life.
If you look at Charles’ travel and event schedules, it is hard to see how he spends much time with any of the children. When is the Queen pictured with any of the great-grandchildren outside of events? Why isn’t she saying, like Camilla, how she misses time with ALL of the children during the pandemic?
The queen has never been a “kid person.” She was famously hands-off with her own children and is said to particularly not enjoy babies. I think she’s fine with photos for all of them, personally. She’s not really a doting, let’s have a sleepover kind of granny…
THIS. Even if we ignore the fact that we are knee deep in a pandemic & he wouldn’t necessarily be seeing him anyway, Charles’s schedule (in normal, non-pandemic times) simply wouldn’t have allowed him to just ‘pop over’ to Frogmore. “Family” time (quote-unquote) would have had to have been booked literally months ahead in the diary so this is some bullshit. So at this point I think a couple of FaceTime calls is better than might have been expected really. And yes much like TQ herself I don’t really think Charles is a hands on baby/toddler person. Remember that ridiculous yarn spun about Charles & PG having ‘tea parties’ in a special play house? Total lies, all coming from Charles’s PR person to make him seem like more of a ‘man of the people’. William was said to be furious about that one.
What isn’t William furious about? I bet he has become very wearying for Kate these days.
The best part of them leaving is that Archie will be raised in a healthy nurturing environment. No stuffy, emotionally stunted toxicity for him! He’ll be a normal kid.
Interestingly…I just thought of Archie’s first words… will they be tinged with an English Accent at first, or will it be American all the way? 😄 That will REALLY piss off the BM!!!!
They’ll sound American. Emily Blunt’s has joked about how her kids do, and she and John Krasinski are also an American and a Brit with children living in California.
Abusers often miss their victims after they leave. No one to terrorize or throw under the bus. He did nothing to try to protect Archie even when the psycho press was attacking his mother while she was pregnant. If Charles even thinks of Archie it is probably with confusion. How on earth did Harry get away from all of us?! I blinked and he was gone (not remembering the dozens or hundreds of times he was probably asked for help to protect Meghan and Archie) The BP miss Archie and the lifetime of stalking they had planned for him.
No he does not. Another manipulative story put out as part of a campaign to force Harry back to the UK. The tampon prince is as cold and selfish as they come. Harry has shown him what a true father does, protect at all costs!!
I think this is the press speaking but regardless, should’ve had a better relationship with the mother and father. Thankfully Archie will grow up with his grandmother and found family that will love and support him no matter what. He won’t miss the Windsors.
I very much want to know what is the real relationship with Charles & his children. My guess is that Charles “gets on” very well Harry but only has a formal working relationship with William.
After all that has happened you still believe that Charles gets on well with Harry? I don’t believe they have a relationship because if they did, what happened on Sunday would not have taken place.
@Amy Bee – I should have said “did get on with Harry in the past”.
This new drama is especially confusing, because I remember Charles has defended Harry since he left, saying something to the effect that a royal life should be a choice and should not be forced on anyone. It was a direct quote too- Kaiser covered it a while ago.
I do feel like feel some shitty parents lights ‘switch on’ through their grand kids. Charles probably wants to compensate for what he put his own kids through. William kept his own kids away as a form of punishment to him and the Cambridges began to ease up on his access but now that Harry is gone Wills is probably back to being a douche.
You’re right. Parents suddenly being decent to their grandkids is not a new phenomenon. This is why the Queen was rather present for the Yorks and even Harry (which explains his Stockholm syndrome).
Grandparents have the easy part-coo at the kids. They’re also much older and are more aware of their legacy at this point. They’re not burdened with raising the kids.
I believe Charles genuinely misses Archie. The other royals? Not at all!
Irrelevant pet peeve: when will the UK press get off their lazy arses, learn some geography and get it through their thick heads once and
for all: H & M did not live in Vancouver. They lived on Vancouver Island. Vancouver is not on Vancouver Island. This irritates me to no end – likely because it is more proof of underlying colonial attitudes of “oh bah, they were SOMEWHERE in the colonies; don’t need to bother to learn where…” Also – why is Charles’ face so red all the time. No snark – genuine question…
Charles has Rosacea. Rosacea is skin condition that can be aggravated by high blood pressure medicine and/or prolonged sun exposure.
FYI: I know because I have Rosacea.
@btb – ah ok, thanks.
Yes, but even when very bad can be treated easily. I’ve often wondered why Charles leaves his. It is uncomfortable as well as unsightly.
@Thirtynin – Yes you can treat Rosacea but you never know when you will get a flare-up. I can go 6 months and have no problems at all then out-of-the-blue get a flare-up which can be minimal to full-blown.
This is funny because I have similar beef with them insisting that they now live in Los Angeles. They live in Montecito! It’s 90 miles away from Los Angeles! About the distance from London to Bath!
People who commit arson for the insurance probably miss their houses sometimes, too.
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This made me laugh so hard.
👆👆👆 this!
Lol @ Coco. So true.
Hey, I tend to defend Charles more than the others, but that’s probably because I WANT him to be good, I LOVED when it appeared that his relationship with adult Harry was warm and loving, despite everything that went down with Diana. I probably idealized him and projected my own need for their relationship to be healed, because I always felt Harry deserved better and wanted that for him.
They’re all a bunch of narcissists – I should probably lower my expectations a bit. 😉
I feel the exact same way about Charles.
Wham Coco……what a way to Mail reality in one sentence. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I highly doubt he saw Archie much at all. The RF are not some family that gets together every Sunday for dinner. They only see each other at official gatherings where the press are invited.
This is super fake news. Charles’ number one priority is Camilla. He is determined to take the throne with her at his side as “Queen” consort. That means he needs to keep the RR/BM sweet on Camilla. Had he interfered in what was going on with H&M, the RR/BM and Kate and William would have turned on him and Camilla. Charles chose to save himself.
Exactly!
@Maliksmama – Your explanation is the only plausible theory I read that explains realistically why Charles has acted the way he has.
We all know this is what has been going on, which is why people like me call him a coward. He is unable to put anyone else’s needs above his own which is what good parents tends to do. He has prioritize his need for good press for him and Camilla ahead of the needs of his child, Harry and Harry’s family. Charles is incapable of stepping up for his children, ever and they’ve both suffered as a result of it. Harry at least has seemed to learn to be a better person despite having such a poor example and I don’t know what William is since the BM spends so much time propping him up.
I just don’t think enough people care about the Camilla thing. It’s been 20+ years. People are used to her. Not everyone is a hardcore Diana stan.
Oh please, STFU and spare me with that nonsense. He misses him so much that they failed to rebuke the caricature of Archie as a monkey? These people are out of this world delusional and just plain awful.
I do sense that Charles is more on team Sussex than team Cambridge. The Keens used to throw him under the bus too with their whole ‘skip a generation’ campaign, so I do think Charles really wants to see them brought down a peg or two. But he still did nothing to help harry, all he had to do was publicly show them support, and he didn’t not once. I have no idea what Willie is holding over Charles where he can’t even support is other son. It must be pretty big.
Anyway if Charles is missing archie so much, he knows where he is, what’s stopping him flying the royal jet to California? Pandemic or not, royals do whatever they want.
I do think that if this was just a “regular” family and not a monarchy/firm and Charles as a family member does support the Sussexes. But this is a monarchy and this is a firm and Charles is not just a family member but royal and the future King to boot. So keeping all that in mind, he, as a royal prince and future king, has supported the future future king, his wife and their kids as they are the future of the monarchy in terms of sitting on the throne and being the working royals.
However, I still think Charles is terrible and a coward and still could have done more to support the Sussexes
I don’t think Charles gives AF about the future of the monarchy the same way the queen does. I think Charles needs william to remain popular just to secure his own reign. I think people tolerate Charles as future king because they know his reign will be a short one, then it’s on to king William. But with Willie showing his true self since meghan came in the scene, he too is under threat of losing the people’s goodwill (expect for racists who still love em). If Williams dirty secrets and true self is revealed to the public then people might say ‘abolish the monarchy’. But if William remains popular, then that means Charles reign is safe as well. But I still think on a personal level Charles want William and Kate to get their karma.
It would look really bad for him to do that during a pandemic. It would be one thing if he were on a diplomatic visit, as part of welcoming the new Biden/Harris administration, and then stop off to see Harry and Meghan. But to make this trip now for his own purposes, while COVID cases are raging in both the US and the UK? Absolutely not.
That’s why I said pandemic or not. If there was no pandemic he still wouldn’t go and visit them, even though travel is so easy for him.
I am very sorry that Charles and Liz are suffering the direct and entirely predictable consequences of their actions. The real question is whether they are sorry and will atone for them.
Charles only priority is becoming king and his legacy. If he wanted to see Harry and his family then he would act like he wanted to see them.
This is total BS. Charles is only interested in himself and Camilla and was a willing participant in the smear campaign against Harry and Meghan. And after they left, he lied to press that he was helping them financially. Archie is merely a prop in his propaganda game. Shouldn’t he be missing all his grandchildren since he can’t see them due to the pandemic. This is some Clarence House nonsense put out to make Charles appear to be a doting grandfather and to attack Harry and Meghan for leaving.
“And after they left, he lied to press that he was helping them financially.”
When did this take place? I must have missed this story.
After they left, it was reported in most tabloids, that Charles was helping them pay for security and helped them pay for their house. This was before the Netflix deal was announced. Harry and Meghan made it clear that where were not getting funding from Charles since they stepped down in March. Emily Andrews tried to contradict Harry and Meghan, insisting that Charles was giving them money. When the royal accounts were published it was confirmed that Charles stopped financing them at the end of March.
@Amy Bee – Thanks that is exactly what I thought.
If Charles was paying for anything (which it seems that he was not), it was security.
You cannot claim to miss your grandchild then continue to work closely with the people that drove him and his parents out in the first place. Until the Windsors address the behavior of the press PUBLICLY they need to shut it
But the queen did just that recently- she delivered remarks roundly praising the British press (after they were revealed to be among the least accurate of the European newspapers). Or, wait… did you mean she should have *admonished* them for driving her grandson to decamp with his family…? /s
I agree this is largely the press speaking. Camilla and Charles had the Fail around to Highgrove and no doubt they asked about Archie & that’s where this tidbit came from. And that’s part of the problem- Cornwalls are working with & trying to keep sweet the same press that Sussexes are suing. Apparently part of keeping the press sweet & not having negative attention on the Firm generally involves throwing the Sussexes under the bus& showing solidarity with the press against the Sussexes.
I don’t believe the Queen is that into kids or misses Archie but even if she did she showed more public support to the press then she ever did pregnant Meghan. We all know the family could have briefed being upset about the negativity or the chimp thing etc through ‘sources’ if they wanted to. Instead we heard negativity was coming from the Firm & press said the Firm had distanced themselves from the Sussexes. So Archie being away is result of their own action/in action.
Also if I was in Meghan’s shoes some of the narrative coming from the press about how only Harry is welcome back wouldn’t have me rushing to have my child around those relatives. But maybe BTS things are warmer
I can imagine Charles going “Yes yes I miss all my grandchildren” when asked and the Fail, who want to, yet again, hate on the Sussexes decided to just focus on Archie
Inviting your sons abusers round for tea is shocking. Gawd Charles is so f*cking desperate. I’m starting to believe that it’s the daily mail that are really running the monarchy now.
If he had stood up AT ALL. Charles doesn’t miss Archie any more than the queen does. None of them do.
Does anyone believe that even under the best of circumstances, Charles would have a close, development milestone observing relationship with his grandchildren?
He didn’t even have a close relationship with his own kids. I don’t buy the whole put on that the boys are close to their dad. I think Harry’s probably closer, but only just.
I am SOOO tired of hearing about the emotional pain of the Windsors. The queen is either heartbroken or sad every d@mn day! Baldy is now an adjective for a light bulb and now Charles is sad.
Are they EVER happy? You would think their lives revolved around H, M & Archie.
Eh, he probably does miss them, but the pandemic has made travel difficult. Once it is hopefully under control, they can visit and he can visit them. Families everywhere are facing this.
It’s just the pandemic that has stopped them from being together? He sat back and watched while his son was driven out of their home and then family, and not only tossed from their country but made them feel impelled to leave the continent to be safe from Harry’s family. They are horrible, horrible people who will only ever see Harry from a ‘how can we use him’ point of view. The queen is beyond livid that he did not stick around to be William’s whipping boy. She’s doing everything she can to hurt him to make him pay for what she sees as his disloyalty to the throne. The happy family moments and memories are few and far between in that family.
coulda had a bad bitch……….
Charles knows what they’ve lost and I think he is well aware of what his silence cost all of them. But I also think he’s proud of Harry and wants him to succeed on the outside.
I wonder if daddy’s pride means anything to Harry at this point?
I doubt it.
He didn’t bother himself and holding Archie in his christening, he didn’t put a framed picture of Archie in any of his Zoom calls, he didn’t defend Archie’s mother when she was pregnant or when they called Archie a chimpanzee. So please tampon STFU and enjoy with your three littles pure white who one of them will be FFF king and leave Archie alone
I thought there was a picture of Charles holding Archie at the christening?
Oh, they “miss” Archie, now do they? Yeah. Right.
Wait, aren’t these the same people that didn’t utter a single word in defense of his mother when the British press rolled over her like a panzer tank while she was pregnant and then openly referred to her unborn baby as a “monkey”? The worst, most racist dig in the worst, most colonial country on the planet.
Yeah, I don’t blame M&H for steering clear of these fools. And after being so shitty to Harry on Remembrance Day for no good reason other than to rub salt in the wound over a situation that they created, no one would blame him for keeping his kid(s?) the hell away from them.
Yep. Cry me a river, Chuck.
I believe Charles has regrets and one of them may be missing out on Archie’s life, but do I believe the rest of that pit of vipers feels the same way? No, I do not. Not in a million years would I believe they miss Archie and his development. Nope. That said, I actually do think Harry keeps in touch with his dad. So, he probably sees as much of Archie as he would if they lived in the UK.
Funny how the Queen misses Archie, but weren’t there stories about how she hated H&M so much that she never visited them at Frogmore, even though she lived close by?
My father was unrepentantly horrible to my husband and the consequence is he no longer sees me or his grandchildren. Periodically he writes to tell me how much he misses my son or how he hopes we can patch things up for my son’s sake. I tell him he needs to apologize to my husband and own up to his shitty past behavior and he gets huffy and says I’m making unreasonable demands. So, continue with no visits from us. I would like for my son to have a nice relationship with loving grandparents but I don’t trust my parents to provide that experience.
My mother’s mother hated my father. His was “wild, drunk and loud” in his youth (he married mom at 32), his family wasn’t “right” (large working class making it by the skin of their teeth and tightening of belts) and of course, he was disabled from polio (walked with a distinct limp). She was ignorant to believe that polio was hereditary too and her grandchildren would be “crippled.” My mother did her best to involve her parents in our lives but everyone forgets that kids have ears. Big ears. i heard enough slip past on how my father was just awful, she’d say to neighbors that visited, and that she was working so hard to show us how to behave, etc.
TL;DR When my grandmother died, I absolutely took the bereavement leave from work. I went to her funeral, snuck out early then hung out with family I adore (my father’s side) which did include some loudness in establishments that served adult beverages. 🙂
*she died in 2017, way before COVID-19 and group restrictions
That’s what Zoom is for Charles. Some grandparents even zoom their grandkids daily, if they really want to, that is.
I don’t even believe Charles sees the kid on Zoom. I don’t think there are any Zoom calls except to discuss concerns when Charles and Cabbage Patch Prince had Covid around the same time. They probably had to notify Harry and Charles probably contacted him directly for that.
But the whole wreath fiasco would never have happened if they were keeping in touch the way normal families do. That sort of level of intimacy implies a level of access we have evidence does not exist. If it did, Harry could appeal directly to his father on straightforward matters and not get hamstrung by courtiers. The courtiers know they can pull whatever crap they want because Harry does NOT have direct personal access to his own father and grandmother. He can’t tell on the courtiers to his dad and expect any results even if, by chance, he managed to get word to his father. That’s just not how that family rolls. The evidence is all out there. Stephanie Powers, who calls herself a dear friend of Charles, would not have talked the severe smack about Meghan if she didn’t think she could get away with it. That shows me everyone there who is “in the know” knows Charles doesn’t have Harry’s back unless there’s something in it for him.
They may have had a cute banter (that I have seen in old videos) once upon a time when Harry was younger. But those days are O-VER.
Agree.
I think it’s wishful thinking on our part – to think there is some sentiment in Charles towards Archie, Meghan and Harry. IMO, he doesn’t care at all. He put this narrative out because it makes him look good and caring, it’s his way to manipulate the public opinion only just for his own benefit.
He isn’t so weak as we sometimes want to think and give him a pass for his “cowardice”. When he intervened about Andrew he did that decisively and got result. So, if he would have been wanted this he definitely could insist on laying the wreath that Sunday. And I even don’t want to remind everybody about his deafening silence for more than 3 years while his son and his family were dragged over coals for nothing. So, not. For me – like mother like son – heartless cold persons.
I think it’s claimed Charles doesn’t read the papers but was pretty disgusted to see Clarence House do such a warm birthday message to Arthur Edwards shortly after one of his many interviews dragging the Sussexes for filth.
Ultimately keeping the press (& William) on side is more important to the survival of the monarchy than Harry. So that’s why Archie is away from his warm Windsor relatives
No wishful thinking for me I hope ugly sausage fingers keeps as far as away as possible from Archie, that man is a degenerate and borderline peadophile ! He makes me wanna vomit!
Lots of grandparents are missing their grandkids these days. But with COVID, it’s not safe. I don’t know why the British tabloids just ignore this not-so-little fact. I imagine H&M would have returned to the UK this year except for this and Charles could have seen Archie then.
I wish these “reporters” would get their info right. The Sussexes were on Vancouver Island – NOT in Vancouver which is on the mainland – in a suburb of Victoria, British Columbia’s capitol city.
This is just more sycophantic BS shoring up what amounts to Charles being complicit in William’s banishment of Harry and Meghan. The media doesn’t seem to realize that you can’t polish a turd, you can’t put toothpaste back in the tube and you can’t put lipstick on a pig, it’s still a pig.
Has Charles never heard of airplanes? I’m sure he has a current passport. He can fly to the States and visit his grandson any time he wants. Sure there’s a pandemic, but plenty of people are still flying. He might even still have some immunity.
I don’t buy any of this at all. People that are self absorbed and worrying about how things look don’t care about others. I know this because I had a scheduled c-section and my in laws still got on a plane 2 days before because they couldn’t miss their annual 6 week long warm spot February vacation when my youngest was born. They got pissed off when I had my oldest early and had to miss a Christmas party. If you don’t fit into their life, you don’t matter. And H&M didn’t fit into Charles’ life the way they wanted him to. Someone just needs some nice press.
This reads like a rehash of all those “Charles is soooooo sad he doesn’t get to see George and Charlotte” articles that were written when a tabloid propped up the Middletons as “hands on” grandparents.
Also, it’s funny how there was no tabloid concern about Doria not getting to see her ONLY.grandchild.
I thought that Charles didn’t like children? Does he even spend a lot of time with Willie’s children?
Is there a reason – beyond the current pandemic – that he can’t visit his son and family in the US, even privately?
As far as we know he only met Archie during the christening! I found it odd that he went to lindo wing after George’s delivery but not Archie. This man has never shown any care for Archie let alone his parents so they better shut their mouths. The idiot didn’t even take the perfect PR opportunity by saying somethin g about that racist BBC dj who portrayed him as a chimpanzee. That there should me that H&M were alone & defenseless
To be absolutely fair to Chuckles not visiting in the hospital – he was out of the country when Archie was born, and they were in and out of the hospital really quickly.. But he did take a surprisingly long time to meet Archie.
If he wanted to watch Archie grow up so badly, he should have said something when Archie was called an ‘ape’ when he was three days old.
Think of the very salty headlines when Archie visits and has a California accent…
This whole thing is ridiculous fiction. They are all complicit in pushing out the Sussexes, and this continuous war of attrition against them.I just have to add, when you look at the current election, Biden has way more energy and confidence than Charles projects. They’re similar in age, in fact Biden is older, but Charles has this inertia about him, while look at Biden, moving ahead, not engaging with Trump and his BS, trying to pull together his transition team. Neither he or Will have any energy or spark, no matter how incandescent they get. Can you imagine Charles giving a speech of the same caliber Biden gave the night he was declared president-elect? Charles can’t even pull his own family together and reign in his own staff. All he does is drone on and furrow his brows.
I really wish people would stop believing that Charles is a good person and that he’s on the Suessexes side. This man sat by and while his youngest grandchild was called a monkey and he did nothing. He literally didn’t care. Hell, he probably agreed with the sentiment. Nah, it’s fuck Charles forever over here. He showed his true colors many times with his fake self.
My mom miss her grandchildren, so we set up a google meet for her. It was loud and chaotic because of the range of grandkids from 2 years old to 19 years old trying to talk over each other.
My mom’s smile is huge and funny to watch because of the shouting. She is 73 and she understand that she will not ask them to come visit her during this pandemic because she love them all.
Harry and Meghan have different ideas about raising Archie-the Cambridge kids have their life laid out for them-this is where Prince Charles should keep his focus-especially on George-this is just the tabloids trying to stir the pot-If they are having zoom talks-Charles gets to see Archie growing and developing probably every week or so-bullshit on this article-Since he is planning to slim down the monarchy his focus should be on the immediate future throne sitters-William and George-Let the Sussex family alone and if they come to the UK in the future everyone will get see and visit with Archie. The Cambridge family is following the script and that’s what everyone in the royal family and the media should be spotlighting.