I get that most people really dislike Kim Kardashian. I dislike her a lot of the time too. But in a narrow circumstance, she has my sympathy. That circumstance is her marriage to Kanye West and how she’s trying to deal with a husband who is a celebrity, whose every word or tweet makes news, and who also struggles with profound mental health issues. Six, seven months ago I believed that by the end of this godforsaken year, Kim would file for divorce from Kanye. So far she has not. But don’t mistake that for Kimye having a good, healthy marriage. They do not.
There’s still trouble in paradise. Despite reconciling after a reported rough patch earlier this year, it appears Kim Kardashian West and Kanye West still have issues they are trying to work through. A source tells ET that Kardashian and West are still having their difficulties, like any couple, but they are both doing their best.
“Kim is exhausted from continually trying but keeps their vows in mind when making any pertinent decisions. And Kanye is working on his psychological health and mental state,” the source says. “The family and Kanye are still in contact and everyone wants the best for Kanye, Kim, their kids and the rest of the family.”
The source says that Kardashian feels West “needs to work on himself before he can work on the well-being of anyone else.”
“Kim’s family will support her in any decision she makes, but she feels that the most important thing to recognize before making any choice is realizing what’s best for the kids, herself, Kanye and the rest of the family, essentially in that order,” the source shares.
It has been a tumultuous year for the couple. Before West’s controversial and unsuccessful run for president came to an end in November, the pair were already working on building up their relationship after having a very public fallout back in July.
Kanye “needs to work on himself before he can work on the well-being of anyone else.” That’s it, at a fundamental level. Kanye can barely take care of himself and that means he’s not currently capable of being a full partner in their marriage or their family. In the spring, I felt like Kim was already over it and they were very much living separate lives, which was one of the contributing factors to his extreme manic episode. I wonder if, after all of the family time over the summer, Kim and Kanye are back to living separately, and whether that suits Kim just fine. Yeah… I do think she’ll divorce him. But I also think she’s trying to prepare herself for how Kanye will react to it.
Kim has been spending some time in Wyoming though, she’s posted photos from the property Kanye owns (and where he lives permanently now).
Photos courtesy of Kim’s Instagram, Backgrid.
What kind of marriage can be maintained in a constant state of crisis? It can’t. I have no idea what she’s holding on for. We all know it’s over and that Kanye has issues that Kim can’t treat and if he doesn’t want to treat himself she needs to make a more stable life for herself and her kids away from him until he is stable as well.
She’s holding on because A.) she doesn’t want a third divorce, and B.) she likes being the only sister married to the father of her kids. It makes her better than them.
I think she has created a more stable life for her and the kids. Kanye lives half way across the country. It’s not like the kids have to see him very often. Their marriage my be over, but I don’t see them separating anytime soon. They’re basically separated right now, without the bad press.
C: it’s the only story line she has at the moment . She can’t break out as free and frolicking in the middle of the plague. The island birthday was universally condemned (not that she cares) but to rebrand the power single mom she’s going to need to be out.
D) like 1000s of people in her position she hopes h will be adequately medicated to be back to how he was when things were good
Being rich does not make her immune to loving someone who ends up with significant mental health problems. It is a journey trying to decide where you boundaries are and recognising he has crossed them time and again whilst knowing it isn’t deliberate
Feeling he can’t help it is what keeps her there
Also the kids likely love him and he will get a good pattern of visitation which might worry her without her input
If she does not want to separate, stop complaining. I have heard the same complain about different times. Time to put up or shut up in my opinion.
She doesn’t want shared custody. As long as they’re married, the kids can be with her all the time. Once they divorce, he will have the right to fight for 50-50. She could try to drag it out like Angelina (and I support Angie doing this if she believes her children are in danger with Brad), but her children are much younger, and won’t hit the age when the courts let children decide for themselves for about 10 years. It’s safer to tread water.
ding ding ding! The shared custody of kids with a partner who is unwell is super scary. Not being able to leap in between the sick parent and the child taking the brunt of whatever crazy is happening is just anxiety inducing. My ex is re-partnered & living with someone I know and is a good influence on him, but if he were on his own I would be very very afraid of the kids being over there unmonitored.
Yes! I really think she’s afraid of shared custody for sure
It sounds like they don’t see each other that often, it’s Kim and the kids and nannies and Kanye sometimes shows up.(2nd half of 2nd paragraph quoted here. He has enough money to go anywhere so I’m sure he’s not around much.
I agree; the fear of 50-50 custody would scare me too in this circumstance. Untreated/improperly treated mental illness has the potential to be extremely dangerous.
Right now, she has full control of the children. He sees them whenever Kim brings them to see him. She can monitor all that is going on, and intervene, if necessary.
I doubt that we will see Kim file for divorce anytime soon. And I have zero doubt that she is documenting everything (that isn’t publicly known already) in the event that Kanye is the one to pull the plug, first.
I would.
If you’re “continually exhausted” by your marriage, it’s time to hit up the divorce attorney, honey.
I hear you, but if you’re married to someone as volatile as Kanye, and you have young kids (and all the resources they have) status quo may be the easiest.
…yeah, I think we’re forgetting the very real possibility that the only thing harder than being married to him is going through a public divorce from him.
Can you imagine what he would say about her? The hell he would put her through? He does it regardless, so of course I want to believe I’d leave anyway, but we really don’t know the depths of his cruelty when he’s manic.
Ya, he was horrid to Amber.
Doesn’t she get “exhausted” from tweaking her face and body all the time? She’s definitely had something new done to her face, it looks more pulled up.
Just once I’d like to see her not posing like a Club Monaco mannequin, face made up to the nth degree while posing like Vanessa Hudgens at a Coachella concert. How about the outfit with the sweatpants with NO makeup, eyelashes, duck face and hair extensions while reading a book (you know, Kim – the kind of textbooks like you need to become a lawyer?) on a chaise while relaxing with her child playing next to her.
She & her family have taught so many to worship style and possessions over happiness and substance. I actually feel sad for her.
In Kims opinion Poor Kim got a defective black toy- got it. Nope she’s on par with Melania and Kate – she got what she wants and now we are supposed to feel
Sorry for her or something? The only people I feel sorry for is her staff during the pandemic
YIKES
100%!
Exactly this.
Totally this – thank you! Kim rolls out these stories every few months to illicit sympathy and distract the public from what a piece of shit Kayne and her family are – and then she’s right back to it. The fact that Kayne ran for President, specifically to take away votes from the Democratic party – and then was whooping it up on island for Kim’s bday in the middle of his “campaign” is disgusting. And she stays through all of it, so she is complicit. She wants to look good while being equally bad. Melania/Kate are perfect comparisons. They all can fuck off.
Add my voice to the ‘Amen’ choir!
So Kim Kardashian wants to ‘keep to her vows’ does she? She didn’t when she was married to Chris Humphries. The SECOND that Kanye’s mother was laid to rest (who devoted a lot of time to keeping Kardashian away from her son), Kim forgot Humphries existed and was having sex with Kanye (who openly bragged about it).
If it wasn’t for Kanye West, Kim Kardashian would be just another reality star with a porn tape. Kanye is the one who got her on the A-list. He’s the one who got her on the cover of Vogue magazine.
I have no doubt that the Kardashians were fine with Kanye being off his meds and acting out in the beginning but the glamour has worn off and living with a mentally ill person is one of the hardest things imaginable.
Now we have the ‘poor Kim, bad Kanye’ narrative, with Kim being painted as some sort of martyr. She can definitely sit her ass down, next to Melania.
100% agree……….he also got her and her family invited to the MET gala. There is no way she and her clan would have ever been invited without her marrying Kanye!
Yes Kanye has issues but KKW should not try to pretend anything here….all the best to the kids; they really are stunning!
Oh poor Kim, she must be exhausted posting selfies all day long, and fake happy family photos. Gotta keep up the charade for….. who exactly?
Those pictures, mygawd, not even trying to support the narrative that she’s struggling.
Did she practice those poses all day to get a perfect snap? SHE is the one that exhausting perhaps?
Dear KKW: duck face lips and peace sign fingers are over.
I can’t believe this marriage lasted this long, TBH.
I’m only sad for their children and how they’ll be affected. She got what she wanted from him—A list status, legitimate celebrity, and a family.
I hope he gets his mental health together and that she has her kids in therapy. Having a mentally ill parent is rough.
Isn’t he bipolar Type I? Not on meds, correct?
Having a mentally ill parent can be rough, but it doesn’t have to be. Mental illness, like physical illness, can be treated and brought under control. It takes the support of family members, friends, and competent mental health professionals, but it can be done.
It takes the person suffering with mental illness to want to be on their meds. No one can force them to be “brought under control”.
Ravens daughter, sometimes even with meds mental illness isn’t able to be fully “controlled,” and Kanye has to want to be medicated and he has to want it for himself or it won’t stick.
I’m a parent with mental illness. I am medicated and I am highly functional. My kids are still in therapy because even when I’m doing well, it affects them. It never hurts for kids to have an outlet, and since Kim and Kanye are wealthy, there’s no reason not to have the kids in therapy. IMO.
I agree with both of you. My comment came from concern for the stigma that goes with mental illness. Bipolar disorder runs in my family. My father had it.
“Controlled” was not the right word. “Managed”?
…and yes, the person with the mental illness has to want to be treated…
As a parent with mental illness, I feel conflicted about others with mental illness that do not take their meds. I suppose I don’t understand why they don’t feel the responsibility of staying on medication for the benefit of their children nor do I understand why one does not want to be medicated. I cannot function without it. I am a raving lunatic and have a miserable existence when not on medication
(1) Boo hoo, you made your bed, now lie in it!!! (2) Stop with the duck lips, you’re FORTY (3) and clean up your floor and furniture, it looks like someone puked off that futon couch.
It looked more like feces to me. It’s disgusting.
um, I think it’s a wet foot print….? Kim’s in a bathing suit, maybe her feet were wet. Unfinished wood darkens when it gets wet.
I think that’s her wet footprint. Like she was in the water. She’s wearing a bathing suit type thing.
It pains me
To say but KANYE deserves better. But notice Kim’s still there to make sure and stir his pot up so he spits out some damaging content she can Be victim of. Let him work on himself, stay away let’s see how he does. And how he is two years after being out from
Under this pit of soulless vipers.
It looks like she is leaning all her body weight on his ribs in that futon pic, and what is dripping off it and onto the floor? Yuck!
It’s a weird pose, he looks like he’s trying to get the F away from her lol.
Lol it’s a wet foot print.
Why does she keep making that same silly face? Did someone tell her it looked good? I dunno – funny enough I feel like Kanye is more into her than she is with him. When there’s a camera, no matter who she’s with, that’s when you see her true love.
“he’s not currently capable of being a full partner in their marriage or their family”,I’m not sure that it’s a new thing. I feel like they have always lived separate lives and that he never was Kim’s “partner” in a meaningful way. I might be wrong but to me their marriage looks like a business arrangement. He gets to dress Kim like a doll and brag about winning the most famous woman in the world or the hottest or whatever,she gets fame and opportunities she would never have had without him,they’re both part of a “power couple” and have cute kids.
this tends to be my read on the situation as well, that it was more of a marriage of convenience of sorts. They’re both narcissistic people so developing a real relationship of any depth is unlikely and his mental health issues make him even more remote to her. I do think she cares about him and wants him to get help. I also surmise that in her own mind staying married to him provides more ‘stability’ for the kids than divorcing him would. Even though the opposite is probably true, at least until Kanye’s mental health is better managed.
They are separated. They live separately. Just get a divorce.
Of course she’s preparing herself for how Kanye will react. If she serves him with divorce papers, I fully see Kanye going scorched earth and exposing everything he knows about the Kardashian/Jenners. And I’m sure he knows plenty. So first they must make him look like a stereotypical gibbering mad person (which he has made extremely easy for them by not treating his mental illness and public mania) so he has limited credibility to damage their empire OR they have to sit and map out a way to capitalize off his reaction. Or both.
Kim “keeps her vows in mind.” LOL. Those same vows she took with Kris Humpheries?
And the one before that too.
I assume her vows didn’t include the “love and cherish” part as that would involve treating your spouse like more than a plot device.
I feel for anyone going through such huge challenges in their marriage. No matter the circumstances it’s always very emotionally draining dealing with the end of a relationship.
However, I just can’t with the blackfishing. Those photos of her in WY are outrageous. How is she still relevant/popular while parading around in blackface?!
In the buckskin pants it also looks like she’s verging on “playing Indian,” which wouldn’t surprise me at all.
Wow. This comment section is…I don’t like Kim either but Kanye was legitimately not this ill a decade ago. The man wasn’t ever normal but he wasn’t this. There are a wild ton of things to be all over Kim and the rest of the family for (black fishing, flouting covid restrictions, just being generally annoying attention hogs). This isn’t one. It’s internalized misogyny when we’re mad at a woman for both staying with the crazy and for planning to leave the crazy. We can’t be mad at both. Also wanting to be famous and wanting your husband to be sick are not the same thing. She’s a leech but she can also be a victim of Kanye acting up.
Crazy, acting up? Like he’s doing it on purpose? I’ll go ask my son if he does it on purpose and get back to you.
Just stop with the woke preaching. If Kim is going to throw herself at us, we are going to have opinions.
IKR!! I have a lot of sympathy for someone going thru this. I have co dependent issues and this situation is a perfect storm for those struggles. She’s probably longing for the days when his illness was under control but it’s likely to get worse as he’s clearly in denial. Wealth and celebrity aren’t immune from heartache.
@OhHey: Please don’t let people in public spaces intimidate you from speaking up when you observe, experience, or suspect things like that here or elsewhere. That kind of grooming is not “guidance” worthy of trust or respect, and it definitely isn’t any kind of escapism.
Sidebar – that view from their Wyoming house! My gosh, that’s beautiful. Otherwise, I honestly understand Kim’s situation. Their issues are mostly linked to his mental health. Despite my liberal views on most things, I am fairly traditional when it comes to wedding vows. You do promise to support one another in sickness and in health. Of course it’s much easier when everyone is healthy and happy.
That’s Tahoe, not Wyoming.
Oh, the article said Kim posted pics from Wyoming, followed by pics. I assumed it was Wyoming. Eh.
Yup they went on vacation to Tahoe with E cameras there to capture the whole thing. LOL so much for a deadly pandemic and “staying home” right?
I would kill to be in a big beautiful house in wyoming during this pandemic. If I was her, I’d spend every minute there…I’m sure it’s big enough they can still give space to each other.
Thank you. Managing a family member dealing with mental illness is not easy, especially with someone who is not managing their Bipolar Type 1 disorder. I empathize with a spouse having to experience this, despite the fame, money, and general problematic nature of the family conflating these issues further.
I do feel for anyone struggling with mental illness, and for their family and loved ones around them.
However – she has options that many, many people don’t (he’s already moved out of state) and she and her family have exploited this for good headlines for a long time. Deal with it privately, enough with the “poor, burdened Kim” stories to try to get good publicity and make her seem human, after that party debacle.
My son suffers will poor mental health and is currently off of his meds. When he is, I am the target of much verbal and mental abuse. I cannot escape to another state, nor can my son. He really doesn’t know what he is saying or doing, but I would NEVER feel like I’m the one who is burdened, when I see how clearly tortured his mind is. My heart breaks for him daily.
Exactly. I know several parents in a similar position to yours, and they feel the same. That’s why it bothers me so much that she continues to put out stories like this, where everyone is supposed to say “oh poor Kim”. I don’t doubt that it’s difficult for her at times, but using it for good PR is just terrible, IMO.
My best to you and to your son. Hopefully there are better days ahead for you both.
I don’t think it’s fair to compare the two. That’s your child, this is her husband. This is far more complicated that than someone with the responsibilities of offspring. And this is assuming your son has none.
@nicole brings up a good point though that the dynamics between a parent and their child are very different than that of two spouses.
I feel a lot of sympathy for Kanye, but I wouldn’t blame Kim if she left him. At this point, it’s him or her children. And even though I’m sure he doesn’t want to, he’s hurting his children (emotionally/mentally) by refusing to take his medicine.
It is different, trying to support your son versus trying to support your husband. Your son is your child. In Kim’s case, supporting her children may preclude her from fully supporting her husband. Once she had children, his needs had to come second. He’s an adult. Their children are not.
I grew up with a severely mentally ill mother and deserved so much more protection and support than I ever got. I was violated physically and mentally repeatedly for years. I was never safe from abuse. I was never safe, period.
What would have been best for me was if my father had removed us from the home, but it didn’t happen.
I’m not saying that Kanye is abusive, but she has an obligation to protect their children from the ravages of his illness.
She is burdened with choosing between her husband and his needs; and her children and their needs. They need two parents, but they also need safety and long-term stability. He needs his children, but he also has a responsibility to be as healthy as he can be. He’s almost certainly dealing with medication that can have nasty side effects, and therapy that takes time and emotional energy.
Every day is a struggle no matter what choices each of them makes. Mental health issues are so difficult. I don’t blame either of them for any of this. Sometimes there are no perfect choices.
Are they legally married?
I know they had their ceremony in Italy, where neither have citizenship, but did they ever get married stateside?
I’m guessing they are legally married because she changed her last name. Also, their pre-nup was widely talked about (it heavily favors Kim). But then again, with this family, you never know.
She looks exactly like that girl in Dubai, Sonia Ali tht is a Kim Kardashian doppleganger. Only Kim doesn’t look like Kim. Kim Kardashian is a doppleganger for Sonia Ali.
I think Kim is waiting to see how the Kanye-in-Wyoming thing works out. If it works to only bring the kids to see him a few times a year, and for Kanye to come and visit them in LA a few times a year, then I think she’ll stay married. Divorce is hard, b/c of splitting finances and property and other assets, and then shared custody, yikes. Still, though, the current arrangement may not work forever.
What if her kids like it better in Wyoming though?
Hey did anyone hear the Kardashians signed a deal with HULU for a new reality show. I knew this family wasn’t going to just disappear. They live for reality TV. Oh well…
I feel Kanye is near his expiration date. She doesn’t need him anymore
So is she the only one who doesn’t know he has replaced her?
These people are stupid and you are stupid for writing about them.
Troll
Yet here you are.
Nobody made you come into this site and read this article. If you don’t like the content then don’t read about it. Take your negativity elsewhere
What a surprise it might get hard down the road when you have four kids with a mentally ill narcissist. No pity here.
Mental illness is no joke. I feel for them. The love is there. I don’t think she will leave him. I never got the vibe that they would divorce. Marriage is hard at times. Adding all the other elements can compound the problems. It’s a rough road. I hope they get the help and peace that they need.
I have never in my life seen a woman more in love with herself than this trick. SoOOooo proud of her lip fillers. What an aspiration in life.