I missed out on covering a Katie Nicholl article in Vanity Fair a week ago. Nicholl obviously wrote it before the Duchess of Sussex’s appearance on the CNN Heroes event, before Meghan’s investment in Clevr Blends became public knowledge, and before the Sussexes’ Spotify deal became public knowledge. The piece read like typical Nicholl-fantasy, the fantasy being that she has some kind of insider knowledge of what the Sussexes are up to. Nicholl claimed that while Harry has had bouts of homesickness, he’s happy in California and he feels like he and Meghan have a true partnership, especially after their “rollercoaster year.” I bring this up because I think Nicholl sold some quotes to Entertainment Tonight for their new piece about how H&M will spend the holidays.
The royal family is keeping in touch the way most of us are this holiday season! With new restrictions in the United Kingdom and Prince Harry and Meghan Markle living in their Montecito, California, home, ET has learned that the royals will be conducting Zoom calls to check in with one another.
“The family is planning Zoom calls and games online because they can’t all spend Christmas at Sandringham together like they normally do,” a source tells ET. It was previously announced that Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip will be breaking from tradition and spending the holidays at Windsor Castle.
“Everyone is on better terms and have been for quite some time,” the source says of the family. “The relationship has improved and COVID has brought everyone closer together.” Both Prince Charles and Prince William contracted the coronavirus this year, and the source shares that the health struggles helped reconnect Prince Harry with his family after he and Meghan stepped down as senior royals in March. “Harry was very concerned for his brother and father when they both contracted the disease,” the source explains. “While there have been disagreements, like there are in every family, the brotherly bond remains intact despite tabloid reports.”
As for when Meghan and Harry could return to the United Kingdom to see the royal family, a source told ET earlier this week, “While there had been plans to return to the U.K. for Meghan’s case against Associated Newspapers and the Mail on Sunday in January, given the postponement until next fall, there are no imminent plans to return to the U.K. given the travel restrictions related to the pandemic.”
Instead, they will have a low-key Christmas in California. “The couple will be spending Christmas at home in California quietly with Archie and Doria [Ragland] joining them,” the source said of the couple’s holiday plans with their 1-year-old son and Meghan’s mother. “Meghan, who is an accomplished cook, will be preparing some of their favorite dishes with Harry and Doria pitching in.”
“While there have been disagreements, like there are in every family, the brotherly bond remains intact despite tabloid reports.” Bullsh-t. Now, granted, I doubt William is incandescent with rage at Harry constantly these days, like William used to be. But to be sure, the brothers’ relationship seems irreparably damaged. And I feel like that’s okay? Sometimes things just need to BE damaged and everyone needs some space and time to process and heal. But yeah, the rest of the quotes are just Nicholl-esque. Meghan’s cooking! They’ll Zoom with the Windsors! They’ll play games! I seriously doubt that the Queen and Philip are going to play Zoom Pictionary with Archie and Harry on Christmas Day.
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“…the brotherly bond remains intact”, sure Kensington Palace mouthpiece. Harry knows that they have been selling stories on him and trying to make him and Meghan look bad.
Yeah I feel like this is cover from KP. William knows how Harry’s global popularity grows that his behavior looks that much worse- refusing to attend the Sandringham lunch, leaking to Dan Wootton, etc – so now they have to backtrack to make it seem like things are peachy keen.
Exactly what I was thinking. Their popularity will be better on the Harry Train than on their 3day/48hour Choochoo train
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@Becks1 “Yeah I feel like this is cover from KP. William knows how Harry’s global popularity grows…”
You know what I feel like? I feel like H&M know what is about to happen and have known for a long time, which is why not one word about,”missing the UK but happy here in my wife’s home town for a bit” kind of statements have been made – even though such statements would allow H to take control of the narrative and say some innocuous thing that would at least acknowledge the kingdom he was born into.
Unrelated, random things:
1. DT is about to be a former US president.
2. JL Brunel was just arrested in Paris.
3. G. Maxwell is petitioning for pretrial release.
Let’s just say that the best thing that happened to the BRF was DT being elected president and it is all about to end. Talk about social distancing! H&M are probably photo shopping certain BRF members out of their wedding snaps as I type this.
Agree Becks1. And with all my INSIDER KNOWLEDGE (0%) of the Sussexes and the Royal family…I could have written this article too. Nicoll knows zip, nada, nothing about the Sussexes in my opinion.
No Royal reporters know anything. Their entire job involves putting their name to leaked puff pieces from the Royals and making things up from photos, which is what teenage fan girls do all the time on Instagram. It’s not hard! It’s barely a job. Maybe that’s why they think Kate works hard, they have no idea what ‘ work’ is!
100% and the irony is that the very existence of this article is an affront to Harry’s wishes, because William/KP is still discussing Harry and his family to the press. So, the fact that this article is even out there just shows that all William cares about is positive press coverage for himself, because if he really cared about Harry he wouldn’t place a puff piece with Entertainment Tonight about them.
@ Sunday, I agree. This is an attempt at KP, PWT and, TQ possibly, trying to spin this absolute train wreck two ago by Keen and Unable, to present them in a better light in hopes of squashing the backlash of their dreadful and disastrous train tour. You are all absolutely right in that Nichols knows nothing, unless PWT leaks it to her.
The tabloids were only too glad to proclaim with glee that everyone in the RF had distanced themselves from the Sussexes. Then KP and CH realised how bad it made them look on so many levels. Now with the Crown, the deals rolling in for the Sussexes, all the leaks plugged and KP being shown up for the PR incompetents that they are the tabloids with their help are trying a different spin. TOO LATE. You should never have thrown your own family to the wolves.
Anytime I see stories like this I think about Richard Palmer basically saying RF all turned their backs on the Sussexes. I think about that story of how William can “no longer put an arm around my brother”. Their relationship will likely remain fractured even if they do get to point of civility. And we saw at the CW ceremony that it’s not H&M that are having issues with that. I hope moving forward that H&M continue keep it cute in public while knowing it’s on the RF to make amends. Which likely won’t happen and that’s in no way a loss to the Sussexes.
William and the rest of that family are clearly in bed with the press or they’re being blackmailed because that media clearly have them under their control. There have been too many leaks and hints dropped by the media that confirm that William and Kate were a big part of them leaving. I think William has to keep the image that he has access to Harry because he knows the tabloids have him on a string and they need their golden gooses back. If Harry and William were truly speaking, the news about the miscarriage, Netflix, Montecito, Spotify would’ve been leaked and I’m not changing my mind on that. I think this is to keep the media at bay because they’re growing angrier by the day and we see it in every article they publish. Someone has an affair that he doesn’t want outed. I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve been threatening him because they lost control and access to their money makers.
I agree. The fact all information concerning Harry and Meghan hasn’t leaked means he’s not talking to the Royal Family. The only thing that was leaked to press was Harry being banned from participating in Remembrance Day by the Royal Family. That information came from the Palace.
It’s like KP are trying to buy themselves some time. “We don’t have any new information on the Sussexes now, but just wait until the new year. We’ll be talking to them over the holidays and then we’ll have lots of stuff to tell you! Just please wait a little longer before you drop the hammer on us!”
They could be speaking. But very superficially. How are you? I’m well, how’s the weather? A bit gloomy, yours? Bright and sunny. Oh thats nice. Well it was nice speaking to you. You too brother.
I have loads of conversations like that with various family members during holidays, events and “events” ( sick, dying or just deceased family member, births etc). Our “bond” remains the same throughout the years.
I truly think that the best thing for the BRF would be time. Once a few years have passed and Sussexit doesn’t feel so raw maybe and just maybe, they can start mending some bridges.
But it’s also the same family that gets into a rage twitch whenever Diana is mentioned so maybe I’m just talking out of my arse
Wishful thinking, but I just don’t see that happening. Like many brilliant minds have said on here, there’s been pretty much zero leaks from the Sussexes camp since they left in March. I don’t think Harry is in contact with them and why should he be? If there is contact, it’s definitely on a civil and minimal basis, with Harry not going into detail about his business (thank god). The Windsor’s are so petty and pathetic, it showed when they refused to lay a wreath for Harry at the Remembrance Service.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they viewed him as some sort of ‘race traitor’, like the sick, racist individuals they are. That family is pure evil.
He was viewed as a race traitor and there were credible death threats made against him with someone ending up in prison. Not only that they allegedly facilitated paid hate groups, bot farms and trolls against him and his wife in addition to the toxic tabloids.
I think Harry is probably still communicating with various family members…his grandmother, Eugenie, and others. I just don’t think he’s telling them anything relevant as to Sussex business. He’s probably keeping it on the family level of conversation. Haven’t most of us done that at various times in our life. I know I have. There are just certain topics never discussed. Especially if you know that there are those in the family that want any hook they can get to take you down.
As to messages of sympathy or private birthday, anniversary, etc wishes. I imagine those are private communications. After all, the Sussexes are now private citizens and every single communication to or from them does not have to be made in a public forum. Please don’t get me wrong, I think Harry’s family behaved and continue to behave reprehensibly in many instances, but I just don’t think it is as cut and dried as many seem to want. Families can be difficult and complicated in the best of circumstances and both Harry and Meghan have certainly been victims of the worst behavior of various family members towards them.
Yeah, I seriously doubt Harry and William are on speaking terms at the moment and I don’t believe Harry’s keeping touch with Charles either. The Remembrance Day debacle was only a month ago.
I mean, yes, technically they will always be brothers. No getting around that. But there is no way any communication is going back and forth between Montecito and Anmer/Kensington. I think William was unhinged, often, and judging by the big smile on Harry’s face when he finally got out of the UK last March, he is taking a long break from the mess. The fact that perhaps they had minimal contact when Charles had the corona is only a testament to Harry’s empathy and genuine loving nature and nothing to do with mending bridges with Will.
My brother and I are currently estranged. Yes, we will always be brother and sister, but the ball is in his court to reach out. I’d say it’s the same for William.
Yeah…no. On Harry’s end, I’m sure he still loves his brother, and if something terrible ever happened to him, Harry will be right by his side, supporting him. But, at this moment, I am sure there is ZERO trust and if they are in contact, it’s limited to birthdays and holidays and polite, surface level conversation.
William is probably still desperate for dirt to sell to cover his ass.
No. I hope Harry will always ignore that disgusting man. He never supported Meghan or Archie, why Harry will support him?? ( even if something terrible happened to him)
I think the opposite. I think if something terrible happened to William, Harry is the last person he would want by his side. After all the shit he’s pulled on Harry up to and including publicly backstabbing him in bars and the press, William can’t bring himself to trust Harry anymore. He’s going to believe the worst of Harry because of his own guilty conscience. That door is closed.
Sure, they are quietly in touch yet KP issues no comment when the miscarriage was revealed. Clearly Baldy doesn’t want a relationship with Harry. It’s probably been this way for a long time and that was behind Harry’s eagerness to move on.
That’s really telling, isn’t it. No message of sympathy, even if it wasn’t sincere. As low as the bar is for William, a word of sympathy could have gained him approval for his “brotherly love.” I think H and M have gone low/ no contact. It’s the only thing you can do when dealing with narcissists.
And not just no message of sympathy but the fact that KP was too dumb to even use it for their own positive PR was telling with regards to the level of hate. Kate, the patron saint of early ‘yeers’ and ‘pahrents’ could not even find it in her heart to say something even just for show is all I need to know.
If they are speaking (I doubt it but alright) it’s not about anything of substance cause NOTHING from camp Sussex has leaked since March. I don’t think William respects Harry enough to keep his mouth shut about anything either. If I were him I wouldn’t be speaking to William unless it’s a public event and we need to look civil. H isn’t the one who imploded their relationship and I hope he doesn’t take it upon himself to fix it. W can reach out (which I doubt) and take that first step.
I think Harry’s relationship with William was strained for a very long time but it further deteriorated when Meghan came into the picture. Harry being in Army probably enabled them to be civil but I don’t believe they were as close as it was portrayed by KP and the press.
I don’t like seeing Harry’s engagements Pre Meghan, especially with that two clowns. When I see Harry as a third wheel, I feel disappointed of him. I can’t believe how Harry allowed himself to be the third wheel to them.
OH, you really need to stop being disappointed in Harry for doing engagements with Will and Kate while he was at KP. You don’t know how things were run or what went on. My God…
Are you disappointed in Meghan for speaking highly of her father before he showed his true colors or no? Maybe he was fine with Will and Kate before they showed how petty and jealous they are.
Meghan’s situation is different. There is no excuse for Harry. Even if they were supportive to him, does that mean it’s okay for him to be the third wheel to them? I have never seen any adult man in my life share the same foundation and social media accounts with his married brother who has children. Because Harry was their third wheel, they are now putting all the blame on Meghan.
Harry and William started the foundation before Will married Kate. They also were the only ones at KP before Kate. Then Kate joined.
Yes, they did some events together but Harry had plenty on his own. He has Sentabale and Invictus which are his. Harry can’t start his own court that is just him. It was either Charles, the Queen or Will. And again, Will and him started KP. I’m sorry Harry is such a disappointment to you.I would think you would be more disappointed in Will. This man got her out of the RF and country, at least be grateful for that.
Perhaps Harry was ordered to join them to increase popularity for the RF? I doubt that he regularly volunteered to be with them. He was doing his duty to the crown as a senior royal. Are you being bothered by a third wheel in your relationship, @Oh?
William wanted Harry to be third wheel. Perhaps Harry was fighting this behind the scenes and Charles did not back him up nor did his grandmother the Queen.
OH important to remember that KP was formed because of Will& Harry being unhappy with Charles leaks as they fell under his household. Also W, K& H only became full time working royals in 2017 I believe. So even if there were annoyances in the trio dynamic, it might not have been that egregious until they were all working royals in 2017 at which point Meghan was already on the scene.
Don’t forget also that W&K’s previous private secretaries left just before Meghan married in and I have no doubt that Simon Case (noted by Camilla Tominey as a big gossip& patriot which I think translated to one of those that looked down on American, mixed race Meghan) played a huge role in exploiting insecurities about popularity& the subsequent smear campaign (with its use of misinformation and bots etc was very similar to Brexit Leave campaign & Case worked for a Leave Mp). Tominey suggests he was behind Flybe.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Harry has been caught off guard by what’s transpired especially considering in 2017, KP we’re described as haughty with the press& William was still talking about importance of keeping distance with the press.
Harry did not think it OK to be third wheel, apparently. He moved on. William became judgmental and bossy and Kate went along with it. He is a man and chose his wife over his brother. I don’t think they were all that close, despite the spin.
He should have been separated from them long before Meghan. Stop giving him excuses. He was clearly comfortable with that. So now he has the “courage” to step back as a senior royal then why he did not separate from them at least after George or Charlotte were born?? He did not even have his Instagram (with Meghan) until April 2019.
@OH he couldn’t just go on his own though, that’s the point people are trying to make. The “third wheel” events he did with Will and Kate were directly related to Heads Together or Diana, so all three attending made sense. He wasn’t tagging along on their international tours or anything.
He could not just start his own social media or his own office. It would have to be funded from somewhere. Even when he and Meghan started Sussex Royal they couldn’t start their own office/ court, they switched to BP. And that was a big deal when it happened, bc the Sussexes and Cambridge’s were supposed to be together under KP.
Anne and Edward don’t have their own social media, they are under BP and the royal family.
OH, we are not “making excuses” we are pointing out basic facts.
You are just hating Harry for something he had NO control over.
He was born into the BRF, with the expectation of supporting the heir. From birth they are told they are second best. The Queen Mother used to invite Charles and William to tea, as they were the only ones that mattered ( in private, so no one else could see, yet she still favoured the heirs over her other grandchildren and great grandchildren) all the photos of GM and the 3 future Kings. Its indoctrination from birth. Sometimes it needs an outsider to come in and say ‘wtf??’ Especially when that outsider is looking after your interests over that of your family for the first time.
Babay you know it! I bet Dan RotWood was on the phone furiously haranguing somebody at the palace about how and why H&M’s Spotify news was broken by US press and NOBODY in the rota knew about it! They are probably nagging KP/CH as we blog, trying to get inside information and they are unable to believe that H&M actually got a leak proof team!
The problem with the RF is that siblings are inevitably pitted against each other. The whole idea of heir and spare is toxic: one sibling elevated over another not by merit but by birth order. They truly believe that a more talented and more able younger sib should downplay, even deny, their abilities for the sake of the elder. There’s no situation in 2020 that merits elevating anyone this way. No corporation (the firm indeed!) would operate this way. Meghan was simply a catalyst, but this breech was inevitable between William and Harry. The same thing will happen with George, Charlotte, and Louis. It will be even worse for Charlotte if she is as sassy and bright as she seems to be now. That spunk that’s so cute right now will be held against her if she ends up being smarter or more charismatic than George. A girl who outsmarts a boy is already problematic to many. Ending this whole royal farce, or at the very least, streamlining it to only the heir, would be the best thing for those kids, and all future royal kids.
Charlotte already came out as more popular than George on SM and she got more attention on the red carpet because of pulling away from William to walk on her own. Being Diana’s only granddaughter (at least for now) contributes to her popularity.
I think it’s sad that people on social media are comparing children’s popularity. The oldest is only 7 years old. Maybe those kids aren’t old enough to be aware of the scrutiny, but it won’t be too long before they are. So their sense of self is shaped not so much by what they do but by other’s photo assumptions and misperceptions. Ugh.
ETA: This has probably screwed up generations of royals through older sources of social media–television, newspapers, radio.
@betsyh What I find creepy is the number of people with SM pages about the children. It’s weird to be that obsessed with someone else’s child.
Very interesting observations. I am no fan of Kate and William, but I think they have done an admirable job raising/shielding their kids. Unfortunately for Charlotte though, Kate does not model what an independent, boundless woman looks like. So you’re likely right, these kiddos are set up to turn on each other as adults.
Her grandmother Carole is a businesswoman but unfortunately had a goal for her daughters not to have careers but find a wealthy man to “take care of them.” At the first mention of Will going to St. Andrew’s, Kate switched Universities. I wonder if Carole will try to “marry up” Charlotte to a Prince or some titles aristo. Instead of focusing on the child’s future education.?
The thing is, parents can’t protect their children from how they will be viewed/received by the world. All a parent can do is help their kids gain coping skills and resilience to face whatever the world throws at them. I have no doubt that the Cambridge’s are great parents, but this royal m.o. is bigger than they are, and they can’t stop it. Those kids will be pitted against each other, like it or not. It’s not George’s fault—no one in their right mind would blame a child for being elevated above his siblings. George will be hurt by this as much as his siblings because he’s been put into a role he did not choose. The system isn’t Williams fault either. I think we can see clearly how he has been harmed by this, as was his father. I just don’t think William and Kate are wise or introspective enough to adequately prepare their kids to survive in this world in a healthy way. All William knows is coming first, so he has no idea what it feels like to come in second or third. He raises George as he was raised, and the cycle continues. Maybe Kate, in a knee-jerk reaction, favors the younger kids over George in an attempt to placate them, which could lead to George feeling resentful, as Charles resented his parents favoritism of his siblings. I honestly think Kate and William are shortsighted enough to think “I’m different, it will be different with me.” As they fall right into the same patterns. There are much easier and healthier and satisfying ways to be wealthy. What does anyone in the Uk gain from this toxic situation?
Wiliam must remember how Diana wanted Harry to be treated not as just a “spare” but treated her sons the same.
I’m not impressed with them exposing their kids to a virus for the sake of good PR. It was irresponsible to bring the kids to an indoor event where other kids were also maskless. They have been using them for PR more and more which they weren’t doing before and so I’m not going to pretend that that is good parenting. Whatever privacy they were doing with them at first has gone out the window.
I think being a Royal kid is probably strange no matter what, but the whole birth order nonsense makes it worse. It twists sibling relationships. And it must be so weird to have people obsessed with you just because of who your father is. I remember when Charlotte was born. I got a text at like 7 AM on a Saturday with a “Keep Calm And It’s A Girl.” This friend who sent it is a big Anglophile, a designer who lived there for a while, so I thought…..wait, is she pregnant?! Turns out she had put me on a group text regarding the royal birth. And everyone else on it was freaking out, hoping they would name her Diana, etc. I just said “You’re lucky you didn’t wake me up!” (Because I usually sleep in on Saturdays). She also posted “Happy Birthday” to Charlotte on her Facebook page. It’s very odd to me.
Nothing’s going to change for the Cambridge kids because their parents are true believers in the system. I knew there was no hope when they not only allowed David Attenborough to give George, and George only, a priceless gift, but that they allowed it to be publicized. They saw absolutely nothing wrong with that. And poor Charlotte is going to get it the worst because she’s a girl. She better grow up to be Girl Next Door pretty. Anything less or more will have her ripped to shreds. Can’t be ugly but don’t be drop dead gorgeous either. They’ll monitor her dress size, constantly comparing her to her mother, whose only accomplishment is that she’s always the skinniest adult in every room she enters. And she can’t be too smart either because they’ll despise her for that as well. Best to be a complete airhead like her mother or basic dummies like gran and great auntie, who seem to not know much about anything other than horses.
I’d be putting out this narrative if I was a palace source too. Like Britt says the firm is in bed with the press & I’m sure the very territorial royal press are furious at the firm’s role in not only pushing out the money makers but losing access to them. Most of their recent news has been broken by US outlets. The rota correspondents are probably losing foreign tv gigs too as it’s likely becoming clearer they don’t have access.
I can def see a push for family reconciliation so that rota can have ears to what the Montecito fam are up to again. Won’t be surprised to hear talk of visits to CA in the future when travel restrictions allow. I heard a royal podcast suggested they have the Cambridges as guests on their Spotify podcast lol. Apart from access to gossip I wonder if the feud articles aren’t getting enough traction and now media want happy families especially with a few new babies & Philip’s centenary coming next year.
But in real life I’m guessing contact has been surface level only otherwise Sussex news would have leaked. And petty actions like leaking wreathgate wouldn’t have happened if they were on good terms.
Harry can love his brother but not trust him and keeping him (inc. his wife and her family) at arms length. To protect himself and his family he has no choice but to cut William and his out. Cain and Top CEO have proven repeatedly they cannot be trusted and are out to ruin the Sussex’s marriage and image.
Its obvious at this point the Cambridges were leaking to not only cover up Willileaks affairs but the financial shenanigans with the RF and the Middleton’s (that pot farm was so theirs). They have a LOT of skeletons in the closet – look at how the Fail is starting to throw Andrews out of the closet. The Cambridges are next.
Unless the Cambridges admit to and apologize for the abuse heaped on Meghan and Archie via the Cambridges’ instigation of the media, Harry is done.
There have been so many occasions this past year for the BRF to use the media to let Harry and Meghan know they are missed. Instead of one kind word or sincere familial gesture, there has been hypocritical condemnation of the Netflix deal, unsympathetic, cold reaction to the miscarriage news and cruel rejection of the Remembrance Day request. Not one word of congratulations for buying a new home or the Spotify deal. Any private overtures don’t balance the very public criticisms.
A CBer made a very astute observation earlier this week in response to Harry stumbling a bit in the Spotify debut and Meghan being encouraging. For the very first time in Harry’s life, he has spent these nine months gaining confidence in expressing his true and complete thoughts without permission or filtering or removal or someone else taking credit. Harry is finally realizing his mother’s dream instead of watching her nightmare get repeated through the machinations of his brother and sister-in-law.
That bond is severely broken. Harry has sweet freedom and has been given no reason to give it up by reconciling with his back-stabbing family who want him only as a pack mule, not a brother or son or grandson.
”…the brotherly bond remains intact”, Which is precisely why William made sure the wreath Harry had arranged for Remembrance Day was laid along side others from the Royal family…………oh wait
Katie Nicholl is such a loser.
A paid, sycophantic loser. I cancelled my VF subscription months ago and they finally stopped sending emails and paper mail, wanting me to renew, when I had to tell them to FO. It was ridiculous. They sent another offer recently and I wrote “Return to Sender, I want nothing to do with Vanity Fair” on it. Because of this liar and the fact that they gave ToD a platform to spew her BS too, they’ll be forever garbage to me.
William has never been a good brother and both H&W had very separate lives years before Harry met Meghan.
Katie Nicholl is really trying to push this ridiculous narrative that everything is amazing. Things were so bad that he put an ocean between them. If Harry was on good terms with the family they probably would have stayed in the UK. I also don’t buy that they were ever that close to begin with. Harry finally has the family he has always wanted. I’m sure he loves his brother but I don’t think he likes him or trusts him anymore.
I think Harry is amazingly loyal but I’m not sure there is any love left.
I just wonder who listens to Katie Nicholl and her “source” (KP) and who gives her platform to speak about Montecito couple? I noticed that she is some kind of “self-appointed expert” on Sussexes, even for American Press.
It’s obvious for us that she has nothing about them, no source, but the fact that somebody can think that she is trustworthy about Sussexes annoys me.
Unless Katie is continuing to buy info from hackers, she has no clue.
It’s curious how she is positioning herself as someone who is in-the-know with the Sussexes in the US, when she is clearly in camp Cambridge in the UK. I refuse to take anything from Vanity Fair seriously because of her, and the same goes for Newsweek.
Same here! I stopped going to VF site because I despise Katie and by association the firm that employs her.
They will never be as close as they were living on two separate continents, but it wouldn’t surprise me to one day see William on their podcast to promote something if it takes off.
I hope this won’t happen. William used Harry enough already, using Harry’s popularity, his work, his initiatives and even his mischiefs to his and Kate’s advantage when Harry was in England. Enough.
Don’t forget they also wanted the money that the Hubb Kitchen cookbook made too, for their own purposes … while telling the press to sh*t all over the project when it become public.
Gross, hope not, don’t want that bald ass sucking up all the air in the room with his casual racism 🤮🤮
The monarchy and all their worldly materials and backwards titles represents all that is evil and wrong in this world.
This!
Bahahahaha….who paid her to say that H&M are spending a quiet holiday in Cali with Doria? Was that necessary to come from a “source”??? I mean…I’ll put out a quote that the next time Meghan is on camera she’ll be wearing a chic monochromatic outfit and speaking with authority and perfect enunciation and that Harry will be wearing something blue.
@ican’t that was hilarious!!!!!! You’re a prophet!!!!!
I’ve been thinking how Harry is the strongest and most chivalrous (in the best sense) of the men in this family, truly protecting his wife and child and putting them first, while Charles and William always put themselves first, even at the expense of the women and children in their lives.
Also thinking how golden children in narcissistic families are often v stunted in their development, w a ragey sense of entitlement, while the scapegoat is often the healthiest from the start and best set up for a happier life, even if their childhoods can be v v hard… It’s actually sad all around but Harry’s the hero in this for me…
It’s like his whole life was set up to handle this moment, there’s something beautiful about his strength.
This is so true. Charles was extremely unchivalrous in his treatment of Diana. Extremely so. The farthest thing from a gentleman imaginable. Harry showing such courtesy to his wife, being so protective of her and supportive of her, shouldn’t be such a rare thing in the royal family but it really is remarkable that Harry simply knows to do that, and has the human capacity, heart, and strength to do that, having grown up with the father he did.
It just goes to show you how distorted their values are. Interesting, King George (Elizabeth’s father) was considered a good King, and he was a second son, a spare, a Navy man, with a stutter, who had no sense of entitlement and was afraid he couldn’t grown into the role. I don’t idolize the guy or anything, but he did rise to the occasion and his relative humility might have been part of the reason. I thought Elizabeth had inherited some of this from him. And maybe she did, but she’s lost her way.
H & M will always be civil, because that’s who they are. The example they live puts the RF to shame.
Why is this woman like this? Can’t she gossip about other royals now that the Sussex well has dried up. I want the scoop on Princess Charlize and her shaved head. Beatrice’s husband Edo Mozzi has a little write up this months Vanity Fair, her magazine, talking about his favorite products with a nicely staged photo of him in one of the properties he’s selling, and pics of some of these items he buys/ uses. Not a peep from the usual Rota goblins about merching or royals giving magazine interviews.
This woman wants money – dollars, not pounds. And to get it she has to position herself in US as someone who has inside information on Sussexes. The second reason is to serve right her true “source”, Cambridges, by posting favorable articles about them.
Katie Nicholas is on some strong meds . She writes the craziest crap . I am 💯 sure that Harry is definitely not on good terms with little willy Winkie, because if he was, when Meghan was pregnant and then lost the baby, willy would have ran to the media with that info. The fact that Meghan was able to write that opinion piece for the New York time and no one leaked her and Harry tragic news, tells me they are definitely not talking or I should probably say on good terms. Conversation if and when it does happen, is probably more like hello , how are you fine , and you fine . Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer and Harry learned that lesson the hard way .so he will never let William burn him or his family again. Harry probably called that family of his and by call them , I mean he called his father 5 minutes before the article dropped and told him the sad news.. anymore and he would have been betrayed by all of them yet again
Harry will always keep a little distance no matter how civil he appears.
All families are damaged, and there are some betrayals that are impossible to forgive. Sad, but true.
So very true. There is an old saying”I can forgive you a thousand times but can trust you only once”.
➕1️⃣. Too true.
Meghan when are you going to visit India, please!
This can mean we survive the big family events but my armor is in place and you bleep with my wife I deck you. That is ok. Or we agree we are great across an ocean and I will send a nice gift for the weddings. Sure you can argue in tact lol I say probably not that much. I can’t see them talking. What on earth would Harry want to chat about with his chief abuser?
The way she just casually mentions Charles and Williams illnesses – I still can’t believe Willileaks kept his covid a secret and the press has largely been fine with it! Because when it’s William, health related things are private, but when it’s Meghan giving birth we need a minute by minute update on her contractions. Absolutely bonkers.
@OH
I’m not going to judge Harry for going along with the “Three Musketeers” PR protocol before Meghan. There’s been enough reports stating how it bugged Harry being the third wheel but he just went along to get along. And maybe he put up with it in exchange for him to be able to do his own projects like Sentebale and Invictus.
None of us know what was going on behind the scenes or the amount of guilt tripping and gas lighting he must have endured his ENTIRE life.
Then Meghan came along. A self made, American woman who wasn’t as enamored of or beholden to royalty and aristocracy. Someone from the outside of the system who finally took HIS side and cooberated his belief that there was another way and he did NOT have put up with all of The Firm’s rules. That they system was messed up and damaging.
Someone who said, I’m with you if you want to escape Shutter Island.
I don’t judge him for it either. It’s a very weird family dynamic they have, and a sometimes silly job that they have to do, honestly. But that’s how he was raised. And he has said he was depressed often as an adult, and probably took some time to find his way. So he did things then that he wouldn’t do now. It took time for him to get past his past.
So well put. I also think the scales fell from his eyes when they went after his wife and child. When it was just him being thrown under the bus he either didn’t fully see it because of gaslighting, conditioning, etc., or he figured he could go along to get along for the greater good of an institution he still believed in. But when they went after Meghan, while she was pregnant, and then didn’t protect his newborn, he was forced to see it all for what it really was. That takes so much strength, and it came from a place of love and true honor. I find it quite moving.
I don’t think they keep in regular contact and I certainly don’t think anything of any importance gets shared, but I reckon Meghan is the type who still sends Christmas and birthday presents to the kids and never forgets.