Justin Timberlake is now the father of two – he and Jessica Biel are parents to son Silas, 5, and Phineas, who is still a baby. It’s also worth noting – because I think about it every time I’m covering them – that I totally believe Biel and Timberlake are anti-Vaxxers and that their children are unvaccinated. But according to Justin, the thing he and Jessica worry about the most is how their children will handle their parents’ enormous fame. Justin chatted with Dax Shepard on Dax’s Armchair Expert podcast. Some highlights:

Justin wants his sons to have a normal childhood: “I try to be conscious of making sure we can live a life where we’re not weirdly private but we’re conscious of making sure they can be kids for as long as possible. And not have the weight of somebody else treating them differently because of something that their parents do.” The 39-year-old Tennessee native adds that he worries his children will not be able to form true friendships because of his and Jessica’s line of work. As he puts it, “It’s a lot to unpack.”

He doesn’t want his kids’ peers to just be friends with his kids because of him: “Yeah, we have this same thing where like the kids at school with my five year old are like, ‘Your dad is Branch.” For guys like us, you know, the hope is that we just keep instilling in them that we got really fun jobs, but it’s not who we are. Hopefully down the road, then that has more weight to it I guess.”

Dax & Justin bonded over how privileged they are: Both Dax and Justin confessed that they’ve struggled with privilege too, with the singer sharing that he’s “become skilled in the art of self-deprecation.” Justin says that he often makes fun of himself because it makes others laugh, especially on shows like Saturday Night Live, but knows it can come off as “false humility.” Dax, who’s experienced this too, explained that at a certain point his self-deprecation “developed into this pattern as well where it’s like, I feel guilty that I have great s–t. And so everything I get that’s good, I add this layer of why it sucks to everyone.” But Justin’s trying avoid making jokes at his own expense because he’s just “shaming himself” over achievements that he’s actually proud of.

[From E! News]

I get that Impostor Syndrome is a real thing and it’s fine to talk about it, but this struck me as navel-gazing horses-t from both men. They’re both like “oh we’re so super-famous and our lives are so great, that’s why we struggle to act with humility, our privilege is a prison!” GMAFB. I laughed when Justin said “we’re not weirdly private” because it felt like a pointed comment towards Dax and what’s her guts, who are “weirdly private” about their kids and yet they constantly overshare everything about parenthood, potty-training and their private lives.

Anyway, Justin and Jessica seem like they’ve moved permanently to Montana to raise their sons there for a while, and I think that’s fine? Lots of celebrities get the hell out of LA once they become parents specifically because they don’t want their kids to have to deal with industry sh-t like “your mom’s movie was #1 at the box office” or “your dad screwed around with his costar on set!” But it’s also inevitable that kids will know who Silas’ parents are no matter where they live.

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