Democrats believe that Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene not only represents a major threat to democracy, but that she’s also representative of the dark, fascist, anti-Semitic, violent path which too many Republicans want to willingly take. House Democrats issued an ultimatum to House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy: strip MTG of her committee assignments or we will. The ultimatum came after a slew of awful information came out about MTG, including her threats of violence and harassment of survivors of school shootings, and her belief that wildfires were started by Jewish space lasers. Yesterday, Speaker Pelosi’s office issued this statement:
Speaker Pelosi's office just sent out a press release referring to @gopleader as "McCarthy (Q-CA)" pic.twitter.com/I0Ijghe0R3
— Grace Panetta (@grace_panetta) February 3, 2021
Yes, that’s the Speaker of the House referring to McCarthy as a member of the QAnon Party, not the Republican Party. Aunt Nancy isn’t taking any more of your shenanigans, malarkey or bullsh-t. The Biden Era is a malarkey-free zone. So yes, Dems gave the ultimatum and Republicans whined, cried, made false equivalencies and did nothing about a violent fascist wingnut in their midst. No, not “nothing.” They gave the fascist a–hole a standing ovation:
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) apologized for her past controversial remarks and embrace of the QAnon conspiracy theory during a heated closed-door House GOP conference meeting — and received a standing ovation at one point from a number of her colleagues.
Greene told her colleagues that she made a mistake by being curious about “Q” and said she told her children she learned a lesson about what to put on social media, according to two sources in the room. She also denied that she knew what Jewish space lasers were and defended her comments that past school shootings were staged by stating that she had personal experience with a school shooting.
She received a standing ovation from some members of the caucus at the conclusion of her remarks.
The House will vote Thursday on removing Greene from the House Budget and Education panels, where she was placed by Republicans. House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) has so far declined to take disciplinary actions against Greene.
Again, for those who disbelieve what has been happening right in front of them: people like Donald Trump and Marjorie Taylor Greene are not outliers who do not represent the Republican Party. This is not some kind of “flaw” in the GOP design. This is the modern GOP. This is who the Republicans have been for years now. Further proof: in this closed-door meeting for Republicans, House GOP apparently spent more time debating whether or not to punish Liz Cheney because she voted for impeachment! There’s also a poll of Republican voters and Marjorie Taylor Greene is “more popular” with them than Liz Cheney.
House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy defends Marjorie Taylor Greene:
"Denouncing Q-on, I don't know if I say it right, I don't even know what it is– any from the shootings, she said she knew nothing about lasers" pic.twitter.com/R49WoE9TvL
— The Recount (@therecount) February 4, 2021
A few details from a tense GOP meeting:
McCarthy apparently spent more time explaining why not to punish Marjorie Taylor Greene than defending Liz Cheney. Adam Kinzinger blasted him for it.
Cheney spoke, refused to apologize for her impeachment vote.https://t.co/7zd01pWl6l— Cameron Joseph (@cam_joseph) February 3, 2021
Photos courtesy of Avalon Red.
The fact that they gave her a standing ovation is more disturbing than what she believes.
It’s their biggest “owning the libs” moment yet. And it needs to be their last.
Transition to GQP now complete. Party is officially irredeemable. People like Cheney, Romney, and Kitzinger need to hit the door and become independents.
A family member remarked that Ms. Seditionist O’SpaceLaser was an anchor dragging down the Republican party. I pointed out that all they have to do is unclip the anchor chain at their end rather than reinforcing the connection. This is definitely who they are, and have been for a very long time.
“This is definitely who they are, and have been for a very long time.”
yup… and I want EVERY GOPer to be referred to as “Q-CA” or “Q-SC” or “Q-KY” from this day forward. that was GOLD.
I can NOT believe this is where we are. It’s extremely unsettling how half the country is conducting themselves. How they’re living. How they’re thinking. How they’re raising families. Now that Biden is behind the desk, I’m not angry like I was anymore. It’s simply despondency. Like a dry stare into the abyss of no hope. I think I need therapy at this point. Hell I should’ve started a long time ago.
I completely understand, Mars; it’s hard to find hope in the face of all of the ugly. Dr. HoofRat’s prescription: go look at Jill Biden’s gift to Michelle Obama. Find videos of Champ and Major. Remember that the Deplorables never add up to 50%; they’re just louder and more obnoxious I’m in a province that’s currently being run into the ground by a pathetic Trump wanna-be, and I have to remember we’re not all like that, and we will survive these idiots. We need to amplify the good, the same way they amplify the bad and crazy.
Hoofrat, I grew up and came of age during the Ralph Klein years, from his time as mayor of Calgary through his years as premier. His antics look so innocent & clownish now. I got out of the province before things got scary, though, but I’m no less sad for my friends and family who live under Kenny rule. My one aunt lives in a scary conservative rural area and said she’d be afraid to let anyone know she’s a progressive for fear of actual bodily harm. But apparently the lefties in her area have developed a bit of an underground network to find each other under the radar. How sad is it that this is what our country has come to? Many Canadians watched the Trump show with barely concealed glee, professing Canadian moral superiority all while ignoring the growing fascism within our own borders.
Petrichor: The Canadian government just designated the proud boys, Atomwaffen Division, an American neo-Nazi group, and the Base, a white supremacist group as terrorist organizations. While it is not illegal to belong to one of these groups, the designation means that anyone who donates to the group financially or materially can be criminally charged and banks can freeze the assets of those who are involved. So the problem is not being ignored and what happened in the US has brought increased awareness of these groups in Canada and all over the world.
“Despondent” is a good word. I just honestly can’t see how the hell we get out of this. We’re dealing with some deeply disturbed people who have completely lost touch with reality and are filled with such hate and anger. We can’t placate them by addressing their grievances, because their grievances are completely imaginary. We can’t deprogram them when they’re utterly convinced that they’ve done nothing wrong. This isn’t a party platform anymore, it’s their f–king religion. They appear to genuinely believe that they’re on some sort of crusade.
I feel the same way. I was thinking about this last night and this morning – how do we come back from this? How do we get back to a place where one party doesnt hear “Jewish space lasers” and think, “well maybe?” Usually people who believe in gross conspiracy theories like the Holocaust was a hoax, or Sandy Hook was staged – they’re ostracized from the mainstream. Here the “mainstream” is embracing her. The fringe has become the mainstream. It’s sad and disturbing and I sometimes feel such a sense of rage at Republicans who are willing to go along with this because they want power and money and more judges who help them get those things.
I don’t think we can “get out of this” by definition standards. I need to heed my own words. Back in 2009 or 10ish, I was helping the boys with something I don’t remember, but the discussion to turned to social media. I told them to hang on tightly because the world was going to figuratively explode in the next decade. We’ve always discussed the excitement of tech, and I’ve always finished with the whole cause and effect song and dance. That as much as we enjoy the positives, be ready and aware of the onslaught of negative tidal waves.
This is the price we’re paying for connectivity. That polar bear cam footage is beautiful and heartwarming. But at the same time, some drunk oil rigger asshole is posting offensive pics from a tavern just ten miles away. Not only is the man a drunk. He’s an asshole douche. AND he’s making a seasonal killing drilling oil at an Alaskan lease. The scales hardly balance. 😐
It’s a cult! Hardly surprising.. DJT really split the REps and white extremism and domestic terrorism is here to stay. MTG is our own Le Pen.. she will grow stronger not weaker
The Dems will hold a vote to kick her off committees today, and likely win. Once the Trump conviction trial happens and her role is more exposed to the public, she will get kicked out, wholesale, whether Republicans like it or not. The Dems are in charge now, and Pelosi made it clear: no tolerance for this lunacy.
God willing. If I never have to see this REDNECK SKANK again it will be a day too soon. Ignorant, nasty, vile, evil woman. I am still beyond IRATE at this gun-screwing-wh@re denies that school shootings happened, and dares to have the absolute gall to harass innocent victims….there is a special place in hell for you to rot, lady. And trust me, if there is a hell, you will end up there.
Greene admitted in a conversation with a mother whose child was killed in the shooting at Sandy Hook that she knew the shootings were real but refused to admit it publicly. She’s a dangerous grifting piece of crap.
Heather, I feel exactly the same way you do. Every day I’m seeing more & more of this vile, horse-faced wench. If it’s possible, she scares me more than Trump does.
They’re trying to elevate her as the new Trump. I wouldn’t be surprised at a 2024 run.
This is why bipartisanship is a waste of time right now. Obama wasted his opportunity trying to get republicans on board. They still called him a socialist and the democrats were slaughtered in the mid terms. Republicans are not interested in negotiating.
ITA aang. There is no point at attempting bipartisanship when the other side is allowing the freaks to run the show. Biden and the Democrats need to just go full steam ahead with their plans, and hope that the positive results will speak for themselves. Midterms are are in two years and they especially cannot afford to lose the younger voters and the infrequent voters who might have voted last year because they believed them when they said they would bring help.
This. Democrats won the White House and the Senate because people, who did not vote historically, turned out in record numbers because they want CHANGE. If democrats don’t show them they are FIGHTING for that change, those people won’t turn out again in two years…
I was a republican until 08 and I was active in the college Republicans. This seems very Republican-normal to me. Feels like people telling me Sarah Palin could be in MENSA if she wanted to all over again. They are hive-minded till the bloody end no matter how stupid the queen bee is.
@Ann as a life-long Democrat, I truly applaud switching out. I loved a reddit thread featured (on another site) about what caused people to change. It was touching. You’re so right, they won’t stand up to Margie Green (that’s always going to be my name for her).
So, I’m holding a tiny candle of hope that these unhinged fascist bananas will keep yelling about sharks with laser beams on their heads or whatever into the void, until they wear themselves out. The standing ovation-wow. It’s like they all went to Blues Clues University. Ive stopped trying to understand and now just trying to keep the faith.
Something SHINY!!!
McCarthy and Scalise are using this monster to distract everyone from their serious efforts to undermine our Constitution and overthrow our Republic. While everyone is distracted by the evil that this woman and Lauren Boebert and Matt Gaetz and Madison Cawthorne embody, they’re working behind the scenes to destroy legislation that helps people or holds them and Trump’s crew accountable for the many crimes they committed and the incredible damage done to our federal agencies and the people they serve.
This is so true and absolutely bone chilling. They just keep giving a new mouthpiece to Y’all Qaeda, setting the scene while they’re working tirelessly behind it. Ugh.
I am convinced that the Republican Party has strategized themselves into this corner. Since Trump has alienated and galvanized so many against the GOP and conversely created his fervent base, they have no other recourse but to go where the votes are. And if currently the only way to elect Republicans is through courting and pandering to ignorant conspiracy theorists and racists and of course massive voter suppression, then they cannot be shamed into anything but. Do not hope for an epiphany, or moral re-awakening. The Republican Party is in survival mode. And they have shown themselves to be a party that embraces hypocrisy and bullying as a matter of business. They will do and say anything to get what they want. This will only get uglier and I have no idea what can be done to reverse this course.
I was reading that GOP controlled states they are changing the laws to make it very very difficult for mail voting, essentially rigging it to their favour.
They can’t afford to get rid of her is the thing. We can’t pretend where the party is – they do not have the demographic advantage now. They see that it will continue to shrink, so they have to play whatever angle they can to grab voters in the younger demographics. This will not stop. They will go full fascist if that’s what it takes to win.
At this point, the GOP has shown America, time and again that these deplorable MAGA beliefs were not a small blip, it’s who they are now.
* When they show you who they truly are, believe them *
Whoo! Clap for the cult leader! Yeaaaah! /s
On the far end of the Democratic Party we have had AOC as our colorful young upstart (not so new anymore) Congresswoman getting a lot of media attention. On the far end of the Republican Party they’ve got… MTG.
One just wants people to have enough resources to thrive. Her focus is on “radical” ideas like a criminal justice system that is just, women’s rights, respect for people of color a wage people can live on and policies that protect our environment.
The worst relatively neutral criticism I have heard for her at the moment is that she’s still a little green and that she doesn’t always have completely practical plans to drive her ideals into reality. And she gets too much attention at the expense of other hardworking members of the party. I don’t want to argue these, it’s just what I’ve heard and I’m putting it there as contrast. The non neutral criticism is not fit to print as it comes from people filled with rage and hate.
The other…what does she even say she wants for us? Moar guns? Mayhem, death and insurrection? Nothing positive or hopeful has come out of this woman’s mouth. I can’t think of any neutral criticism of her because she’s put lives in danger. She’s openly anti Semitic and racist. How do I moderate my stance on someone who would dehumanize and incite violence against other human beings? There is no middle ground on which to set her. She’s evil and needs to be ejected from government, lawfully and peacefully. Then she should be investigated, charged and prosecuted for any part she played in the insurrection attempt.
Back in the day I had Paul Ryan and Rand Paul as my idea of how extreme the Republicans could get in terms of putting out this air of not wanting anyone struggling to have anything. Then Ted Cruz, Rubio, Hawley came along to double down on that and add some crazy. Now MTG has come along and told the guys to hold her beer.
And I didn’t know she has children. It never occurred to me because of how she harassed and abused the survivor of a school shooting. My thoughts and prayers are with them.
Add to this that Hawley has earned more in campaign contributions – over $900,000 – since he started spouting off about election fraud and working to overturn the results, then he has in the entire run up to his campaign in 2020. Very disheartening. He has absolutely no incentive to stop undermining democracy and every incentive to ramp up his efforts.
It enrages me that McCarthy pretends to not know what Q-Anon is or how to pronounce it.
That’s part of your job!!!! Ignorance is not a defense!
Yeah, I caught that, too. What a buffoon. They’re going to get us all killed with their ignorance, faux or real.
I think she wants the mainstream Republicans, dead, too. She wants Democrats dead first, but she wouldn’t shed a tear if any of the Republicans in Congress, except maybe her sister in insanity Boebert, were murdered in front of her.
Why would Kevin hold the QA woman accountable? In order to admit what she did was wrong and dangerous, he would have to admit the role that he played in the insurrection. The major problem is that there is absolutely no accountability. The Republicans have learned that they can do and say whatever they want and harass and threaten whomever they want(Matt felt empowered to go after Liz because he never faced any real consequences from harassing and threatening Cohen; Devin flew all the way to London to harass Christopher Steele and he never was punished for this)and that they will never ever have to pay for it. The first day, both Josh and Ted should have been suspended, they were campaigning during the attack. The day that the 2 QA women refused to go through the detectors they should have been gone. The Republicans feel emboldened because it’s been almost a month and not one member of the Congress who supported and participated the insurrection have faced any real consequences. No one who took part in the insurrection should be allowed to be judge and jury during Trump’s impeachment trial. This is where the Democrats are failing. S
but, but…
didnt the GOP say just recently that it is the time of healing not partisan politics (sarcasm)
The hardcore GOP are so scared of change & progress that they are willing to stomach anyone who has an R behind their name. Yes, change can be scary, but the foundations of patriarchy & white supremacy are crumbling. Let’s embrace a kinder, more inclusive foundation that focuses on actual progress & modern solutions for the majority of Americans. You know what’s scarier than change… giving away our power to those who don’t give a 💩 about anything but their own greed and power.