Prince Philip was admitted into a London hospital on the evening of February 16th. He remained at that same hospital until today, where he was transferred to St. Bartholomew’s Hospital. This marks Philip’s longest-ever hospitalization. The timing is that he went in just after the Palace learned about Prince Harry and Meghan’s pregnancy and the fact that they were doing a sit-down interview with Oprah. We were told last week that Philip has some kind of infection, and I honestly thought “well, there’s no way they can blame that on Harry & Meghan, right?” Well… why do I get the feeling that there’s a narrative building in the Palace and among royal reporters?
The Duke of Edinburgh has been transferred to St Bartholomew’s Hospital for continued treatment, after 13 nights at another London hospital. Doctors are treating Prince Philip, 99, for an infection. They will also undertake testing and observation for a pre-existing heart condition, Buckingham Palace said. The duke is responding to treatment and “remains comfortable”, it added. He is expected to remain in hospital until at least the end of the week.
On Monday morning, someone was screened from journalists’ cameras by umbrellas as they got into an ambulance outside the hospital in Marylebone. Philip was transferred about three miles (5km) to St Bartholomew’s Hospital, also known as Bart’s or St Bart’s, in the City of London. St Bart’s is a centre of excellence for cardiac care, its NHS site says.
First off, I hope Philip feels better. I’ve dealt with elderly relatives and long hospitalizations, and it absolutely sucks. I imagine it’s a lot worse these days because of the pandemic, and the hospitals are severely limiting who can visit Philip. It honestly sounds like there are several things going on with Philip and they’re all kind of converging at once, or there are concerns that an infection somewhere else has spread to his heart. All that being said… wow, the timing has not gone unnoticed.
Would the Prince and #Meghan really allow their 2hr whinge-fest with #Oprah to be broadcast while Harry's grandfather Prince Philip is seriously ill in hospital? #royal
— Richard Eden (@richardaeden) March 1, 2021
On the morning Prince Philip is transferred to another hospital, and fears grow about his health, Prince Harry tells the world via a carefully curated Oprah clip how ‘unbelievably tough’ life has been recently for him and Meghan. The optics suddenly aren’t great.
— Tom Wells (@ByTomWells) March 1, 2021
At the risk of major pushback, I have to say the short clips of the Meghan and Harry Oprah interview do not leave me optimistic that they will avoid their usual pitfalls. If Prince Phillip dies and they air an interview complaining about press treatment, they're gonna look awful.
— Tom and Lorenzo (@tomandlorenzo) March 1, 2021
Photos courtesy of WENN, Avalon Red.
I’m surprised at Tom and Lorenzo. But I knew this was coming.
I am not surprised at Tom and Lorenzo. They have never liked Meghan and were quite abusive towards her initially to get engagement. Then they did a U turn around the time of BLM and have now simply gone back to what they know. I want the Sussexes to speak their truth so it’s on record. Thank God Diana did and even then the BM and RF called her unhinged and a whore whilst shielding the adulterer in chief and his mistress.
Well… it’s ALREADY recorded. And if they’re so afraid it gives him palpitations…well… then it has got to be SOME SHIT they are *really* afraid of.
Harry will unload on the BM. PP is just a convenient shield with with to bash H&M (esp. M) over the head.
Not that I know PP’s med. story, but I’d be shocked if by PP’s age he doesn’t have a pacemaker inserted already. My dad needed one inserted last year, just before his 93rd bday.
But I wonder if we’ll find out the TRUTH of PP’s move, or will it just be used to bash H&M. I think the BP would need to be banging on CBS/Oprah’s doors; it’s out of H&M’s hands.
What’s Phillips heart condition got to do with the interview? Are they suggesting that a sickly centurian is tracking the TV guide? Why would they even brief him? And as for him, how ridiculous is he that even as death beckons all he can think about is his grandson escaping the institution? What an empty shallow life he has led if that’s the case. This is the point at which you ought to be cheering for yours to live fulfilling lives on their own terms. The point at which you realise how stupid and ridiculous the system was.
Abusive? T & L are not stans but I wouldn’t label them as abusive. Their coverage is about fashion. Most of Meghan’s fashion during her time as royal was boring. They were critical of that but also noted that they thought she was doing that on purpose.
Tom and Lorenzo blocked people on twitter who were tweeting #princewilliamaffair (or who were using the rose icon, I cant remember which.) You dont do that if you’re neutral. and not even people who were tweeting at them – I got blocked by them and I’m assuming it was for that reason, and I’ve never tweeted at them.
and even the comments in this tweet about harry and meghan’s “usual pitfalls” – yeah they’re not neutral.
One quite dislikes her and one is neutral to nice? That’s what I had heard so I might be wrong about that. I wish they would sign their tweets.
There’s a series of tweets from around October 2020 where someone called Meghan Markle a litmus test if someone dislikes her. And we’re talking about disliking her in this gate-keeping, condescending, eventually going from vagueness, dogwhistles and then all-out misogynoir way. Kerry Washington replied was part of the conversation and agreed.
People need to examine themselves and how much they enjoyed the British royals as a form of insular and white culture. You can’t give Kate and the others ( but mostly Kate) a huge pass for a decade and then try to come down hard on Meghan without revealing some things you need to work on.
You can’t keep giving the royal family a pass right now when they’ve more than shown their hand in behaving inappropriately over the last few years and not again reveal something about yourself.
Same as with the GFY women then. Heather has made her dislike of Meghan apparent in the early days of the marriage, while Jessica maintains a neutral front. And then there’s two-faced Elizabeth Holmes who changed her tune right around the BLM protests last summer and has been hopping on anything Meghan-related to promote her book. These fashion bloggers are really something else.
“One quite dislikes her and one is neutral to nice? That’s what I had heard”
@Kalana – You are 100% correct. IMPO. neither Tom nor Lorenzo are haters. They are only expressing their opinions and their opinions do not come from a place of hate.
@ Beach Dreams, you’ve really triggered some thought in my head (that previously was untapped.) You’re right; I couldn’t put my finger on it but Elizabeth Holmes has given me an insincere vibe for a while now and I can’t put my finger on it. Until now. You’re so right, she went from neutral/negative on MM and BOOM, BLM hit, and now she’s only extremely positive (borderline fawning) about MM and occasionally negative about Kate (who she USED to swoon over) and while my brain tells me to be appreciative of the positivity about MM, something hits me wrong.
“hey are only expressing their opinions and their opinions do not come from a place of hate.”
That’s my understanding too, you can also be indifferent to them. I am meh about the RF, I don’t like any royal thing: all of them for me are something that belongs to the XVII century, and they all should disappear.
At the same time I like gossip, and I am disgusted by how they are treating and bullying on a daily basis.
The Britsh Press and The Firm are freaking out about the Oprah interview. IF Prince Philipps dies it’s goint to be a nightmare.
I think this is exactly right. I don’t TLo or the GFY girls have personal animus toward Meghan, but the implicit bias are there. It’s about who gets to be royal. And if you have only seen a particular type of white woman in the role who dresses a certain way and behaves a certain way, you are offended by someone who attempts to be a different kind (and perfectly appropriate) of royal. That’s why you get all of TLo’s peferct queen drag comments about Catherine. And GFY’s raving about her perfect shiny hair and basic aristo style. They are measuring Meghan against one standard rather than widening in the definition to be inclusive. Honestly, it’s why many white people, even those who would say they are allies, fall short in the inclusion space.
@BayTampaBay – Kalana made many good points beyond her first few sentences,. @NC_Dancer also said it very well below. POC are familiar with implicit bias, personally familiar. We know the meaning behind a lot of sh*t that’s said to and about us. T&L’s history of comments on these two, including this one, strike a familiar tone to many of us. “Hate” as you refer to it isn’t the most common form of racism. It’s things like implicit bias, confirmation bias, colorblindness, etc. That is what I believe drives a lot of the more muted, less rabid dislike of someone like Meghan.
@Green Desert – I get your point. I spend a good deal of time at the TLO site and listen to their podcast regularly. One of the two is definitely not a Meghan stan but is a supporter the other of the two really does not care for the Sussexes (Harry heavily included). TLo covers fashion & television and that is really almost all they are interested in. The fact that T & Lo are gay should not blind us to the fact that we are dealing with two middle-aged white dudes who were raised middle-class and upper middle-class on the East Coast of the USA. Nothing wrong with any of that but you have to put your bloggers, AND WHAT THEY BLOG, into perspective.
Their criticism regarding the Sussexes can be “rough” but they are just as “rough” with Kate. TLo pays little attention to BPwBT because, as per them, he is really is not worth paying attention and brings nothing to the table worth discussing. TLo can be very decisive in their pop culture critiques but I stand by my original opinion that they are not haters.
Royal watching is a racist hobby at its core. Idc what anyone says, that’s what it is. The cat is out of the bag. On one of the hardcore royalist pages on IG, the woman asked her followers why they don’t like Meghan and one answered basically said she can’t stand Meghan because she sullies the “pure and pristine” history of the royal family and that she brings down the majesty and glory of the crown. These people are racists and they love the BRF because it’s a towering glorified and glittery celebration of white supremacy. It’s not lost on me that most of these BRF pages and Kate pages on Instagram also often feature the Trump women or follow other IG dedicated to the Trump women.
After they reduced talking about media harassment and racial abuse to whining about bad press….. I’m done with them. I can’t take seriously these non-black progressives tweeting about BLM all summer and then downplaying what Meghan has gone through… they are not allies. They are happy to pat themselves on the back for saying that black people shouldn’t be murdered (wow bravo, big stand there) but refuse to confront their own biases in their space and fix up the platforms they have control over. It’s like how the media glorifies black people who are long suffering and silent and self-sacrificial but won’t let them be human or vocalize their pain. See every Hollywood slave movie, reaction to Christian Cooper /Patrick Hutchinson forgiving or saving their abusers. Meghan is supposed to take the abuse, stay silent so white people can be comfortable, then be praised for her long suffering.
My thoughts exactly. They don’t want Meghan to reveal anything that makes the BRF look racist because it would only make them look like hypocrites when they continue to cover Kate’s fashion. Or maybe they just don’t care about the treatment Meghan experienced because she should have known better before marrying Harry. Either way, I’m not here for Meghan having to suppress her experience because it will make others feel uncomfortable for whatever reasons.
The man is 99 years old. Like…it’s not heir fault he’s old. They aren’t CBS, they don’t set the schedule, and they didn’t give and old, probably already I’ll and dying man an infection. I can’t with this blame game.
I knew the RF was going to pull this stunt. They are trying every means necessary to silence Harry and Meghan but thankfully the interview has already been recorded. All this effort proves to me that they did indeed make life for them unbearable.
Pulled this stunt?
Yep.
Feb 15th – Oprah Interview announced.
Feb 16th – Phillip reported to be in the hospital.
Feb 19th- H&M “12 month review” that wasn’t going to happen is suddenly declared officially over.
Feb 20th – Charles visits Phillip, raising concerns.
Feb 28th – Oprah clip released, The Crown sweeps GGs.
Mar 1st – Phillip moved to new hospital.
Timing is oh-so-suspicious in terms of announcements from The Palaces.
That said, Phillip is an old duffer and yeah, at 99 you’re bound to have a host of health issues. He’s got a heart condition, he’s got kidney issues – no surprise given how much that whole family drinks, and he’s had some mysterious infection – my money’s on either pneumonia or MRSA, something serious enough at his age to cause a lengthy stay.
Whether Phillip pulls out of this or not, it can only be laid at the feet of Father Time, not Harry & Meghan. But of course the Rota Rats are so desperate to punish people they’ve harmed they’ll use any bit of palace info and tweak it to use as a cudgel.
These tabloids need to be sued, and the individual reporters sued, until they’re all in foreclosure and criminally charged with hate crimes, endangerment, and harassment.
Wait, you think putting a 99 year old man in the hospital during a pandemic is part of a stunt?
Read that back to yourself.
not to mention that a lot of the anti-infectives (and other meds they may need to use to treat him) are known to cause qt-prolongation and/or have some drug-drug interactions w/cardiac meds. As you note, the guy is 99 years old & has the expected age-related co-morbidities so to pin his health issues on the fact his grandson did an interview that will air while he remains hospitalized is bunk.
They should be asking why is it beneath the Queen and his wife to ever visit him in the freaking hospital? Pre-COVID or COVID, would it hurt that the wife should a little interest? I’m guessing dying alone is her way of being dutiful. When Danish Queenvisited Henrik before he passed, it did not minimize her stateliness
Especially since the public has been told that Prince Phillip is the only man she’s ever loved. Even The Crown, the so called bad show by Netflix according to RR stated this many times over the series. This is his longest hospitalization but she can’t be bothered? Even though she has the vaccine? Even though his accommodations would be far nicer than the average person so she wouldn’t have to interact with any of the “little people”? She couldn’t be bothered to try to spend what might be his final days by his side? Only Charles gives enough of a fuck to visit?
Damn this family’s cold.
They aren’t visiting because of covid. Or at least hiding visiting. If all of England can’t go and visit relatives how would it look if they did. I saw that mentioned quite early on. Im not saying they aren’t horrible lol
Prince Charles visited though. I did wonder why not the Queen.
I think Charles only visited to put spin/pull focus on the fallout from the “12 month review”, and to look like a Dutiful Son (to further put his own son Harry in the crosshairs of the British Press). And it worked, because soon as Chaz walked out of that hospital Rota was bleating about “if only Harry was as dutiful to his Father and Grandmother as the Prince of Wales is to his parents”.
It was staged. Charles can’t stand his father.
I think to be framing it as though this is all staged to make Meghan and Harry look bad or that the Queen just doesn’t care is a real reach and profoundly unfair. What we have learnt from Meghan and Harry is that the constant negative reporting and speculation might be fun gossip but these are real people and it works both ways.
I suspect that Rocky is correct in that the Queen and other relatives are most likely visiting very much under cover because it would look bad when the rest of the country is being kept from their elderly or dying relatives. If they were to all publicly be seen visiting him, they’d have to admit just how bad it is. Then if he recovers, they’ll say that he wasn’t that bad, so how were they allowed to visit. It really is an awful time for something like this to be happening.
Whether the relationships are close or strained, feelings are intense when you’re faced with losing a parent or spouse.
I’m not sure Philip even remembers who Harry and Meghan are at this point.
@Liz
See my comment below. I know several people late 90s early 100’s who have all their faculties including my own father.
Well, really, H&M should have planned their move, new pregnancy, interview, or anything other minute life event around all of their elderly relatives. /s
Seriously Oh_Hey. I don’t know how anyone with half a brain types out tweets like these and writes the sh*t that’s gonna be written in the Fail. It sucks for their family and royalists that Philip is seriously ill but the man is a century old. It’s astounding the direct and indirect ways so many people still find to blame the Sussexes for virtually every bad thing that happens. STAHP.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Prince Philip survives this although of course I won’t be surprised if he doesn’t. My father is the very same age with tons of health problems. He always comes through them really well and he still has all his faculties. He reads tons of books watches a lot of political TV (the good kind *wink*). I have a feeling that unless Prince Philip gets into the mindset where he just wants to give up he’s going to survive this. It’ll have little to do with Harry and Meghan because their beef is mainly about the press and not the family – although the family comes in a close second. The Oprah interview may be being further edited as we speak, however.
i bet it’s a theatrical to silence the sussexes! he is being transferred for some tests and is expected to stay until the end of the week… hmmmm weird coincidence…
I really doubt this. PP is legitimately sick. He’s 99 ffs. It’s unfortunate timing at worse.
Agreed. Really unfortunate timing. That’s all.
I actually wondered if he was sick already at home and he refused to go to the hospital because we know he’s stubbornly documented to wants to be at his farm or whatever, and only went when there was a “need” for it press wise with the massive interview announcement.
Especially as he went for an infection and not something sudden. Infections take time to build in symptoms. He almost certainly was sick for sometime at home.
I agree. NO move is made without thinking about the optics. The RF and their PR army are very desperate at this point.
Philip has done a lot for the Firm but I think even he will draw the line at dying in order to stop Meghan’s side of the story from getting out.
Murder is not an alien concept to the brf
Haha. Some of these comments make me laugh and roll my eyes. Never knew how dramatic and opinionated people get about people they have never met. I guess I understand cause I have lots of opinions (bad) about trump and the gop (detest them). Anyway, if Phillip passes away this week I would be very surprised if they run the special.
The U.S. isn’t part of the British Empire. That’s why we had the Revolution. The world won’t stop with Phillip’s death.
i’m suspicious of everything they do at this point, so yeah, i tend to agree it IS a weird coincidence. Anything to win, because after all, the Crown always wins LOL
Having had elderly decrepit relatives, you and just constantly conform your every move around an expectation of their possibly being ill or dying and they don’t want you to anyway, or at least mine haven’t.
My grandfather was like that too. My parents were reluctant to go on their planned vacation, but he was crystal clear “Go, and enjoy yourselves, I’m not going to die just yet”.
Philip is 99. You can’t blame the Sussexes for that. 🙄
Having said that, my father was in hospice for almost three months. Very difficult.
They’re not responsible for his age or his illness. Are they supposed to wait for everybody to die before they can speak? If he dies in close proximity to the air date, won’t CBS reschedule? News organizations by definition have some experience with these situations.
Exactly. The Sussexes don’t expect sympathy or support from the press or even the public.They just want to speak their truth and it’s best to do it sooner rather than later. Diana taught us that.
Yes. And the british press really need to stop thinking Oprah is new to this.
She got this and because really wealthy by being good at it.
Reading the British tabloids, I was not surprised at the hate for the Sussexes but the hate for Oprah and the untrue things said about her really surprised me. I am now more convinced than ever that certain British tabloids employ an army of paid posters to comment on Sussex articles.
Piers Morgan is so envious Oprah for getting the Sussex interview.
BayTB, given the number of anti-Sussex posters I saw on Twitter this past week, from the time of the Corden interview, that had 0 Followers/0 Following, I’d say your take is spot on.
Piers has been chewing the scenery ever since Meghan won the court battle against the Fail. He’s like a rabid animal at this point. GMB should hire a veterinarian.
This was what I wanted to say. I’m sure CBS would, out of respect, delay airing should PP expire. He’ll likely expire some time after airing, and then the BRF will say the stress of the public interview was one step too far. It’s always a no-win situation for this couple. 🤷🏼♀️
Tom and Lorenzo’s tweet is accurate though. It seems a surprise coming from them but, they are saying what a lot of people are thinking.
And for people who just don’t realize that people who are damn near a century old, their bodies who just tell them it is time. Well, go back to your biology books from grade school.
It’s the pandemic more for me, honestly.
But the thing is Philip could pass away at anytime
Honestly, the majority of people who share that viewpoint were likely already neutral and/or leaning towards mild dislike of the Sussexes. They’re not the tinhatter-type folks, but rather the people who just can’t pinpoint why seeing/hearing about the Sussexes makes them roll their eyes.
I’ve said it in another post, but ultimately I don’t think this interview is going to change many people’s opinions of the Sussexes either way. It’s going to be a reckoning for the British press and there will be a clear emphasis on how the RRs operate, so people who aren’t in the know will be more aware of that at least. But most people tend to be quite baked in re: their opinions of the Sussexes, even those who lean neutral.
Good point. I don’t know what category that puts me in; I love M+H and always have. And I am SO excited for the interview, but as an M+H lover, it will land the right way with me. I am a little nervous about the interview based on timing and possible content for the neutral/clueless crowd. I got called out for this on another thread, but I have doubts about the positivity coming out of this interview. I hope after this, they move forward and focus on the future and not the past.
There were thousands of comments attached to the almost 10 million hits of Harry’s video yesterday. A huge amount were quite surprised and pleased to see that Harry was just a normal dude(with a hot body) and their comments reflected this. It is possible that they will win themselves a lot of fans with this interview too. Maybe?
@Lady D, I actually have mixed feelings because of the reaction to that video. It hasn’t escaped my notice that Sussex news with a primary/exclusive focus on Harry tend to get more positive/sympathetic reception. I’ll admit that the nature of this video is different from previous stories—more lighthearted and less about their work—but the trend still stands. I certainly hope the interview will be an eye-opener for some who have been unaware of what Meghan has been through, but she rarely gets the benefit of the doubt like Harry does. We’ll see. I’m just glad she finally has the chance to tell her story instead of having it being told (and twisted) for her.
Who are these legions of “people” who are thinking the same as T&L? Only on Twitter. LOL. I don’t know anybody in the U.S. who is thinking about any of this.
Not accurate. does anyone in the US media really care about Phillip? The UK can delay their broadcast. All the handwringing is just people showing their true colors. are they complaining about the optics of the commonwealth day celebrations?
So I do think if he dies this week 60 minutes will delay the interview, and maybe there will be some additional comments with H&M, but I also dont think his health has anything to do with Harry and Meghan. He’s 99.
There is already an article in the Fail today saying royal experts and fans are calling for Oprah to delay the broadcast while Philip is hospitalized. They are going to spend the next week amping up the call for Oprah to not run the show and running polls saying it shouldn’t be shown.
Then I guess there won’t be a Commonwealth broadcast on March 7th due to Philip being hospitalized. Seems the BM should focus on things in the U.K. not in the U.S. where no one cares about what happens to the Royal Family. Also, CBS, not Oprah, decides when to broadcast programs.
CrazyHeCallsMe, I agree with you. There isn’t any reason for CBS to change their programming if PP dies. President Biden will send condolences, but we in the United States will not be in mourning. In fact, most won’t even know who he is. I do think that whoever gets to show it in the UK (ITV?) could arrange to show it later. Maybe a week or so after he is buried? This is the BM thinking that the brf is more important than they are. They aren’t important here.
It is a 2 hour interview. Ad time has been bought. They can’t cancel it now. It is up to CBS and they have no reason to cancel even if PP dies. They will put up a graphic saying it was filmed before his passing and state their condolences.
They can cancel the ITV airing in the UK but they will take a big $$ hit when all the info is leaked from the US airing.
Gaah, which is where their hypocrisy will shine. I can’t imagine that they would wait to show this interview if Prince Phillip dies. It’ll be interesting to see how they frame the argument going forward if that happens.
Harry’s grandfather can be in the hospital AND the press can still be toxic. Having an ailing relative doesn’t negate how badly they’ve been treated. If anything it just highlights how ridiculous royal reporters are.
Right.
Harry isn’t trashing his family. He’s telling the world how the toxic BM lead him to leave the country to protect his wife and child and himself. That the BM is using his own grandfather’s health as a weapon to attack him further is disgusting, but nothing is below them. They are pure scum.
Well said! The BM being angry at the Sussexes at the bidding of the RF probably.
The BM will stop at nothing, even using PP’s ill health as another hammer with which to bash Meghan and Harry. They are the scum of the earth and the fact that William is undoubtedly tacitly promoting, or at the very least condoning these godawful comments just shows why Harry has cut him out of his life.
The timing is totally not their fault, but if he were to pass I do hope it will be delayed just to avoid all the screaming about them being insensitive.
The interview is being aired in the US, NOT IN THE UK, can we all at least agree on that? The BRITISH Royal Family are NOT American, so we really care zilch about them. Prince Phillip can die and I really won’t feel any way, I don’t care about this abusive white man that would rape indigenous women whenever he traveled to some POC land just because he is white and from the BRF. GMAFB. That family and their rabid press need to shut the F up unless they make rapist, human trafficker HRH Prince Andrew available to answer for his crimes in the US. If they think people in America should put all our lives on hold because Phillip ( is that important to us and) is dying, then they should consider it equally important for Andrew to be extradited to the US to answer for his crimes. Short of that they all should STFU.
All of this.
They’re not wrong that optics won’t be great for H&M if he dies and they still air the interview, but also, he’s 99. He’s been in a state of decline for some time. As horrible as it sounds, I feel like the RRs are kind of thrilled they get to use this narrative. It’s sick.
I 100% agree, they are gleeful that this is happening at the same time and you can just feel it.
Yes, you can feel it and it is one more indication of the toxicity!
Oh they definitely are. They love the “drama” of it and I’m sure many of them are hoping for the worst so they could have an excuse to keep attacking Harry and Meghan.
Agree. It’s disgusting to use the totally foreseeable illness and hospitalization of a man who is almost 100 years old against his grandson like this. I doubt Philip knows or cares about the interview, he isn’t well and has more pressing concerns. And Harry is not going to bash him. They can’t and shouldn’t put their lives and goals on hold for some kind of ghoulish death watch.
Even if he dies, the interview will air. Might be delayed but it WILL air. No matter what Harry and Meghan do, they will get blamed. Might as well push forward.
ETA: His death might get UK TV to reconsider airing but not CBS. And it won’t stop people from catching it via social media
He’s 99. If he dies, it’s not anybody’s fault.
Of course, they are not going to tell us exactly what is going on but if he’s being transferred to a cardiac care unit then he might be having a procedure done because I don’t know what testing they would do that requires being admitted. Maybe they are giving Philip a pacemaker? Or perhaps the first hospital is done housing him for PR purposes?
Harry clearly said in James Corden interview he virtually catches up with Phillip & Elizabeth (no mention of Charles which was telling) so to think he will intentionally say life is ‘tough’ is laughable. those are pre recorded clips. The British press seriously is so crappy.
Prince Philip most likely developed a bladder infection, which are very common in the elderly, and it landed him in the hospital. It’s possible that such a long treatment of antibiotics could put stress on his heart and so he needs more rigorous monitoring. He is 99, a Prince in his own right and consort to the Queen so it makes sense that he is getting the help he needs much to his own chagrin I’m sure. Blaming his health issues on anyone else, especially Harry & Meghan, is ridiculous but as we know that never stopped the British media before.
If Prince Philip dies the Oprah interview will become unbroadcastable. For Harry and Meghan to be seen taking swipes at the newly bereaved Queen who has just lost her lifetime partner. Not a good look is an understatement!
Disagree. Harry on James Corden already made it clear that he’s cool with his grandparents.
Disagree also.
PP’s health declining is expected. The only people that will be claiming this cannot be broadcasted are those that want to weaponize a 99 year old grandfather’s health against his grandson.
And the BM have completely ignored the fact Harry still speaks lovingly to and about his grandparents.
Agree with Team Disagree. If it was a UK show, it might not air, but it’ll 100% go in the U.S. We don’t really care about the health of a 99 year old guy most people don’t know much about, especially if they don’t watch the Crown. “Prince Phillip, why isn’t he king if he’s married to the queen? And I know Prince Charles, but aren’t there a bunch more princes? Who are the queen’s other kids? Fergie was involved somehow?”
We’d maybe pull the plug if it was the queen who died between now and Sunday, but if U.S. media companies smell money, there’s no slowing down.
Who says they’ll be taking swipes at TQ? They have far too much class for that and their focus will be on their issues controlling the gutter press and their foundation work.
Nobody knows what Harry or Meghan have said about the Queen but if Harry is sharing tender stories about the Queen sending Archie a waffle maker and Phillip slamming down the computer when he leaves the Zoom meeting, it’s a safe bet to say Harry did not say anything negative about the Queen or Phillip. Anyone claiming he did is telling on themselves.
An Oprah interview with Prince Harry and Meghan is never going to be unbroadcastable. People in the US are interested in them and want to hear from them. They are far more engaged with the Sussexes than with Prince Philip, and many are far more interested in the Sussexes than they are in the Queen herself. People in the UK can be as salty as they want, it won’t change what CBS broadcasts here and it won’t impact the ratings. Also, Harry made it clear he is on good terms with his grandparents so no one is going to be bashing the Queen.
Why is everyone assuming they are taking swipes at BRF and not just the UK press? Harry already said he is good with his grandparents and I can’t see Meghan saying otherwise.
Why would it be unbroadcastable? This is the US not the UK. We’re not part of the commonwealth.
Ridiculous to try and blame Harry for a pre-scheduled release of short clips coinciding with his 99 year-old grandfather being in poor health (the man is 99 – he’s got to die some time).
That being said, St Bart’s is amazing – number one fan right here. I quite genuinely owe that hospital my life. Prince Philip is in excellent hands.
So even though Prince Harry didn’t insult his grandparents in the James Corden interview, and Phillip’s own wife hasn’t visited him in the hospital and has been working this whole time, somehow Meghan and Harry are the bad guys here because an old man is sick.
Make it make sense.
Exactly.
Standing O and all the applause for this!
The press must be salivating wishing for him to pass to blame it on Harry.
Despicable press.
He’s 99. To be blunt, parts are wearing out. His heart is 99 years old. His immune system is 99 years old. As privileged and protected as he is, as top notch as his health care may be….he’s 99. All of his parts are 99 years old. When the average lifespan for a male is about twenty years younger….stuff like this happens.
Out of all the members of the royal family, that person the LEAST likely to be mentioned is Philip. And Harry has always been respectful towards the Queen.
Royal family members most likely to get shade are Charles and the Cambridges.
I don’t even think Harry will shade Charles. If anyone in the royal family is to be shaded, it is William and everyone knows it which is why the Palace/Rota is trying to stop this interview. No one wants to find out their future King is a severe asshole.
As I said on another post, I believe in coincidences but not when they involve the the Royal Family. The Palace has not been very forthcoming, despite the statements, of what is exactly ailing Philip. I get that they want to respect his privacy but these vague statements don’t help the situation. As for whether CBS should run the interview if Philip dies, I don’t know what’s the right answer. I lean towards running it still, he’s not a world leader and has been retired for the last 4 years.
IMO, he should get a chyron like every other celebrity that dies, then a mention on a news show. At least in the US. He’s not head of state, he’s not a political leader, he’s the husband of an old queen
Like I said above, I think CBS will still run it. UK TV might delay it out of respect.
I know this is not going to be a popular post by me but, I am tired of everybody in the BRF.
The past 4 years under Trump, covid19, several deaths in my immediate family, etc.
The BRF are out dated. All of them. The constant PR to keep the machinery running for The Firm, RR, Tabs, etc.
I am burned out on all of it.
I enjoy reading history but these days the current state of things is just too much.
All the BRF have turned into a bad soap opera, IMO.
I’ll go away now.
Have a good week CBers.
I completely understand – and agree with – what you’re saying.
And time away from these places is nice.
Your post is just fine newmenow…I think many of us are experiencing burnout. Best to you and hope you have a good week too.
I read your name wrong, newmenow, I read newmeownow and thought aww, you got a new kitty. I’m going to switch to coffee now.
These people are evil!!
YES! The British Media is extremely evil!
Petty and racist and evil.
Another thing no one has complained about the optics of the Queen announcing that Harry and Meghan were no longer going to be working royals, Eugenie announcing the name of her baby, the Palace releasing Zoom calls or announcing plans for Commonwealth Day while Philip was in the hospital. Plus if the optics are so bad then the press should not be reporting on Harry and Meghan either.
Is the queen canceling her cw speech too? Optics with him being her husband and Charles dad would also be terrible. Again he is 99. Life is in god hands not man.
An oncologist told me that a human’s average life span is about 50 years. She said modern medicine is keeping people alive long after they should have died and that’s why the world is so vastly overpopulated now. She said medicine has removed people’s natural death from them.
This makes me feel a little bit better remembering that the entire royal family also has a TV appearance on the exact same day as Meghan and Harry’s Oprah interview, and if they’re not cancelling due to philip’s health, then why should H and M? I think we can sort of gauge that Philip isn’t THAT near death if the RF planned this whole televised commonwealth thing to air on Sunday.
Good point. If Phillip was at deaths door, then plans for the Queen speeches would have been cancelled by now. People would be starting to gather in the UK. Lots of foreign royals would be making plans. The thing to watch this week will be the queens plans for commonwealth day. If they are still on, then the interview should air on Sunday. Yes he could die at any minute, but he’s in a situation now where he’s being monitored, so if he takes a turn for the worse, the public will find out. Harry and Meghan would be told in that case as well. Harry would likely be flying to the UK for the end.
Maybe it’s just me, but it almost sounds like they are hoping Philip DOES pass away so that they are able to joyfully blame the Sussex’s for it.
You’re not the only person getting that impression.
I was thinking this too. It’s sort of disgusting how they’ve all but put the man in the dirt already in hopes of writing more headlines to smear H&M. So bizarre.
But of course!
You can’t be serious!
This is a family that euthanized one king (George V) so his death would be in the morning papers. Yeah, unfortunately, we’re serious.
(Multiple sources available, quick Google search will tell you where to find them)
I’m as serious as a pre-existing heart condition. And I’m talking about the RR.
The press already crossed that bridge with Diana, let alone less famous people who have been bullied to death.
I said this to my friend this morning. “If I WERE to put my tinfoil tiara on, I wouldn’t put this past them at all.”
The press are practically salivating at the possibility.
Oh, I thought you were referring to the royals. The press could be salivating. The royals must be worried.
PP is 99, at that age you always have one foot in the grave. You’d think that having a son who is a paedophile rapist a much bigger cause for concern, but nope. It’s the black granddaughter in law is the problem.
I shudder to think, what they may have done to Meghan, for them to go to such lenghts to bully her into silence! The fear, among the RR and Royal household, is palpable. We pray that, God be their guard and guide!
I shudder to think, what they must have done to Meghan, for them to go to such lenghts to bully her into silence! The fear, among the RR and Royal household, is palpable. We pray that, God be their guard and guide!
Let me fix this for the UK press/RRs and to the unhinged haters.
William and Kate, look what damage you have done to Phillip’s health!
and all the raging, manipulating press, you are also to blame for the Royal mess!
Shame on you!
You knew your grandfather was old and in failing health!
Your egocentric selves caused all the problems your family is experiencing!
William, Kate, et al, Media – Stop trying to blame others.
You weren’t afraid to do what you did,
but now you seem afraid, very afraid
for the big reveal Karma is about to visit upon you.
If you weren’t afraid to do what you did,
you shouldn’t be afraid to see it exposed for all the world to see!
It’s the British press who are showing utter disrespect to Prince Phillip by making it about Harry and Meghan. Talk about him, his life, his longevity. Nope, gotta make it about somebody else to get clicks.
There’s another way of looking at this. Everyone is blaming Harry and Meghan (especially Meghan) for killing Prince Phillip (even though he’s still alive). But what if this is Phil’s way of saying the toffee-nosed version of ‘my name is Bennett and I ain’t in it’ He must have known the shit that was going to go down with the Queen basically kicking the Suss?exes out of the family. This could be his way of saying, ‘I’m too old for this bullshit’. Phil might be a cheating, racist old man, but I’ve never heard that he had a beef with Meghan. In fact, I got the impression that he liked her. She’s one of the few royal brides in a long time who could hold a descent conversation, had two brain cells to rub together and wasn’t just in it for the tiaras.
I can’t help thinking how alone the Queen must be feeling right now. Apparently, she and Phillip had been living separate lives for a very long time. But he was one of the last connections to ‘happier’ times. We know she loved him; maybe she still does. Now she’s going to have nobody in her corner and she’s going to be manipulated and used like never before.
If people think things are bad now with the RF, WAIT until Phillip dies. Andrew (the favourite) will be whispering in his mother’s ear 24/7. Fergie will come roaring back. Of course, Harry and Meghan will be blamed for everything.
This entire news cycle with the Duke of Edinburgh is exhibit A in how the Queen’s refusal to step back has been nothing more than an exercise in selfishness and giving the tabloids what they want. Two people who truly want to see the institution continue on would not behave like thus.
Yes, thank you. Why has she not stepped down? She has been on the throne since before I was born, and I am no spring chicken. Her son is not perfect, but he is certainly ready to fill the role. He has a son and two grandsons to succeed him. Charles might have made mistakes but if the monarchy can’t survive her turning over the throne now, it will never be able to survive it. Maybe that’s it. She doesn’t trust him not to cling to it in the same cobweb-bound way she has? IDK. It’s incredibly screwed up. The whole system is, but she’s the Queen so ultimately the buck stops with her. People need to stop protecting and coddling her and start looking to her for true leadership, which she has not shown.
Charles has 3 grandsons, not 2.
I’m so sick of the myth the Queen and Philip sacrificed *anything.* She married exactly who she wanted to. He continued in the Navy. She rose young to the world’s most lasting and powerful monarchy and became one of the richest people in the world, with an art collection worth millions. He got to spend decades carousing and womanizing. She has liked her position so much she refuses to abdicate at 94. They don’t even pretend to live together. Every last ounce of their life is taken care of.
It seems to me like everyone else sacrificed at her insistence. I guess one could say that her controlling behavior cost her personal relationships with her family. But she chose that by being so wedded to tradition and selling her soul to the tabloids.
All of this makes me glad Meghan and Harry are in the US. The British media is doing everything it can to make the UK a dangerous place for the Sussexes. I wouldn’t be surprised if Meghan never set foot in the UK again. I imagine it will be years before Harry’s children go there.
What royal family has demonized a new member to this degree, and for what? Yes, people hated Letitia in Spain but to this extent? I seriously don’t understand what Meghan has done to earn such vitriol, other than being black. The British media has a serious reckoning ahead— this poison affects the entire royal family. They will only succeed in making the royal family smaller in scope, more insular, and less influential on the global stage.
I often think, and start with, it’s probably been said here, and better, I’ve been so lucky to have many people in my family reach true elder age and they don’t blame or want fussiness. They want things on their own terms and people to carry on in a good and healthy way – live by what I taught you and don’t make a big deal when I reach the end type of words. Prince Philip is so no nonsense and would, I imagine, really dislike any wailing and moaning and definitely don’t use his health for some agenda. He’s really had, for a massive part, a truly blessed life that he wanted and is entirely not impacted by his grandson and granddaughter-in-law giving an interview(s).
Should Harry and Meghan live their lives around Philip’s health issues, absolutely, not. Philip had 99 years to live his.
How about the RR blame andrew for once. Philip got sick because he was worried about his son is going to jail due to raping young girls.
Then they can blame his son, the future king is useless and not fit to be king. His grandson, the future future king who is raging all the time and might be the one who ended the monarchy.
Phillip could well be at death’s door. Can we show some compassion for his grandson who has known him all his life and who is probably worried about him?
Yes, thank you.
We at large certainly do think compassionately of his grandson. It’s a damn shame the BM is determined to blame the grandson and is whipping up hate against him.