It’s difficult to look back at everything that happened to and around the Duke and Duchess of Sussex in 2018 and 2019, especially knowing what we know now from their interview with Oprah. Harry and Meghan were getting it from all sides in a hurry, starting in the fall of 2018. That was when everything shifted. Even back then, I pointed out (and I was not alone) that the smear campaign against the Sussexes began in earnest as soon as they returned home following their wildly successful South Pacific tour. It was their first big international tour, and they were amazing. They drew huge crowds wherever they went, Meghan was effortlessly diplomatic, giving speeches and hitting all of the right notes. It was a moment where a smart, forward-looking institution would have said “holy hell, Meghan is such an asset, we need to protect her at all costs.” Literally no one in the Windsor clan said that though, because they are all consumed by pettiness, jealousy and racism. What’s remarkable is that Harry f–king saw it immediately:
“They were, they were really welcoming [of Meghan],” Prince Harry said. “But it really changed after the Australia tour. After our South Pacific tour. That was our first tour. It was also the first time that the family got to see how incredible she is at the job. And that brought back memories.”
Winfrey confirmed the prince was referring to the Wales’ 1983 tour of Australia – the subject of an episode in the fourth season of The Crown – in which Princess Diana, not Prince Charles, captivated crowds and dominated the headlines.
“So are you saying that there were hints of jealousy?” Winfrey asked.
“I just wish that we would all learn from the past,” Harry said. “But to see how effortless it was for Meghan to come into the family so quickly, in Australia, and across New Zealand, Fiji and Tonga, and just be able to connect with people … You know, as we talked about, she was very much welcomed into the family, not just by the family, but by the world, certainly by the Commonwealth.”
He continued: “Really here you have one of the greatest assets to the Commonwealth that the family could have ever wished for.”
[From The Sydney Morning Herald]
Yep. The family put on their grumpy church faces and made a show about “accepting” Meghan for the first few months, believing that she would crash and burn and that the marriage would only last a minute. The Windsors were f–king shocked to see that they had another Diana in their midst, someone naturally charismatic, someone who enjoyed people, someone who found joy in service, as opposed to believing that “service” is something to be grumpy about. This is why the smear campaign began, and why we couldn’t pin down who was saying what and which royal court was the angriest at Meghan. It’s because they ALL hated her. Kensington Palace, Clarence House and Buckingham Palace were working in concert to destroy her because all of those motherf–kers were jealous of her popularity and natural sparkle. They freaked the f–k out. If it wasn’t so infuriating, racist and contemptible, it would be notable for being so utterly juvenile.
Photos courtesy of Backgrid.
Haha blew up in their faces. The RF are incredibly short sighted for such an old institution. W & K are boring and lazy, if they atleast made the effort ,then there can be a conversation of maybe H & M need to calm down and try not to show them up BUT they do the bare minimum its not that hard to shine next to these sour people.
Not only is Baldilocks and his mannequin lazy, these no charisma having, jealous pair are downright vindictive. Imagine not correcting a false narrative and actually taking advantage of it. They truly deserve each other locked in a loveless, dysfunctional marriage. Surrounded by goodness my arse!
As an Australian I am sick and tired of these petty royals visiting my country and getting jealous when we embrace them , it looks like visiting Australia is becoming a serious hazard for the royal women .
And they still gave the interview. Knowing what they know. Jesus. These are courageous people. I’m so sorry for what they have been through. The price of the freedom was so high. Not in what was taken away. Who cares about that not. In what they paid for in pain and emotional and mental anguish. They paid in full for their freedom before they even left. No wonder they don’t care about losing any of the titles etc. Yhey barely escaped with their souls intact.
I am so glad they escaped and found peace. They also found the means to make money and support themselves. Even that was going to be taken away from them. They wanted Harry and Meghan defenceless, exposed and broke but God said no! Nothing is worth your peace of mind.
They are courageous, but I suspect that part of the reason for giving the interview is for security – Harry still being adamant about security makes it clear that the threat is very much still active (whether from the palace itself or the public at large). Going public adds another layer of safety because now we all know, and Meghan subtly saying that she sent emails and letters could be interpreted as a gentle reminder that she has receipts if anyone tries anything. I hope getting this off their chests gives them further peace of mind and they’re able to enjoy the rest of her pregnancy and making memories with little Archie away from the chaos and abuse of the palace.
They have their fav 7 now. Dull, dim, boring. Just how they like them.
The Malignant 7. The Malevolent 7.
And white, just like they like them.
Who exactly are the 7. Because if it includes Edward or Sophie I’m going to piss myself laughing. Imagine being left on the bench for 30 years only to be trotted out when a supremely popular royal bows out? Hah. My self respect would be gutted. Hahahahaha
Queeny, Chuck, Camilla, Keen, Willileaks, Edward and Sophie. I really mean it. Dull, dim and boring. These people have no self-respect.
The Meh-tacular Seven. Boring AND racist, and I bet they’ll be real stars for the institution.
I very very generously can say that possibly that smear started in response to fear that she was so well received and certain people wanted to make sure that her popularity didn’t get too out of hand. The press than ran with it.
However what wasn’t said was that it then got combined with the RF needing to deflect from Will and Andrew’s scandals and they let the coverage run. They were too afraid of pissing off the press to really try and stop it. I think several things can be true at once as to why the bad coverage started but the real question is why it was never stopped.
Right. And she got pregnant, which made them freak out even more. Both because the baby wouldn’t be lily white, but because that meant that Meghan wasn’t going anywhere.
Yup, it started that way, then they never stopped because they could conveniently use her to cover whatever else they wanted to. She was the best thing to have ever happened to them. Their profiles raised significantly once more. They were praised for welcoming her. They were praised for their mediocrity whenever Meghan shone. And she was the perfect target for racists, xenophobes and classist snobs. I hope they are enjoying their karma today.
Yes, 100%. It started because when they were received to cheers from thousands of people on that balcony, it was made clear to everyone that they were beloved by the people in a way that nobody except Diana has been. After that, they were made fair game to the press, and the family used them as the shiny object whenever they needed to deflect from something else. They never would have been subjected to this level of abuse by the press if it wasn’t directly sanctioned by the palace, but once the gloves were off they stayed off. The family created a runaway train and instead of trying to get it under control they pushed it even further whenever it suited them.
I don’t get the silly jealousy, honestly. W&K were popular when they went to New Zealand and Australia in 2014. They were a young, good looking couple, stepping out with their first baby. This visit was said to echo Charles and Diana’s visit 31 years before that–and Chaz didn’t seem upset by the attention. The public was thrilled because they took their baby.
“Prince George appears in public for the first time since his christening.”
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-27152421
There is no coming back from this for those british psychopaths calling themselves royal although they are anything but royal. I believe Meghan. It is so obviously true. The British monarchy is a cancer. The people need to get rid of those murderous, raping, stealing, racists colonisers.
It was so obvious. The tour + Biracial baby coming = big mad.
They were just putting up with her because they thought it wouldn’t last (she’d be a degree wife). When she showed staying power… they freaked.
I can’t believe I called it but I can cause it was SO obvious. Yeah I agree that the campaign started cause they wanted to limit popularity but quickly got out of control because of Andrew & William’s problems.
There’s no coming back from this, now that all the world has seen it.
In many ways this isn’t even about Meghan. It’s William knowing he may be a future king, but the people will never love him like they love Harry.
For Harry to introduce into the family a woman who would so effortlessly outshine Katie Keen was simply the last straw.
Yes, exactly.
WORD.
Can you hear him screaming!!!! I think I can.
Stay mad.
Yep. 💯
Will was always happy when his brother was a 3rd wheel. Their dynamic for the past decade or more was that Harry was the fun, goofy, screw up bachelor. When Harry started getting serious – true military service, Invictus Games, skiing to the North Pole, even meeting Meghan was an outreach of his development work and a matching of interests – Will became threatened. That Harry is happy and in love and doesn’t need his older brother for anything was a real blow to their relationship. Suddenly Harry has everything Will doesn’t. A good older brother would evolve into a new relationship but Will is too blinded by Royal courtiers whispering in his ear.
Sounds textbook narcissism imo
I think that is a HUGE part of it, and Harry’s wife getting more adoration that William’s too (and making them look bad as an outsider coming in and being so awesome).
It’s really quite sad and pathetic, and caused a lot of unnecessary pain.
I am really, really glad Harry recognized all this in his own family, and that together he and Meghan said that’s it and left. Also glad they shared their experience in this interview, and I hope they’re able to keep moving forward.
William could have been popular by association. So shortsighted.
These people are pathologically self centered, but what else could you possibly expect from people who were brought up believing eugenics on steroids and were treated like demi gods their whole lives?
Once you realize that this family believes they are ordained by God to rule, everything they do makes “sense.” Of course they started taking Meghan down. She was the black(!!) wife of the spare(!!!) how dare she outshine William and Charles!
It’s really sad and pathetic, but totally predictable. I hope this interview opened the eyes of the many commonwealth countries and the British people.
So true Stripe. William feels him and Kate are owed adoration for existing no matter how little they work. It’s unthinkable that hard work beats out his supposedly God-ordained genetics. Meghan must be a witch! Burn her at the stake!
Something really terrible happened during that tour because I remember there was one walkabout where Prince Harry just looked incandescent with rage (lol). He was pissed off royal no pun intended American saying?
At the time one of their senior aides had quit or was fired or something and the press was blaming Meghan. It has always made me wonder what really happened behind the scenes. Now we know.
I think this was the tour where Rebecca English left or was sent home early. She then joined the reporting team for a visit by Camilla. I had the impression she was removed from the official press team.
Wasn’t RE one of the ones involved in the phone hacking scandal, in re: Harry’s phone?
I called that one as soon as they got back from their Oceania tour. It was all about spite and jealousy on Kate and William’s part. No way were they going to let themselves be outshone by William’s little brother and his “half-breed wife” or however they referred to her behind her back.
Revenge is best served cold. Harry and Meghan will outshine the monarchy for decades to come.
You think they would be happy that someone was bringing fresh blood, so to speak. It’s really sad that his family allowed the people working for them poison their minds. It boggles my mind. I could never be jealous of my siblings. I’ll be like good for you!!
They don’t want fresh blood, they’ve been inbreeding with each other all over Europe for centuries. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, a monarchy has no place in the 21st century in a country that plays at calling itself ‘civilised’.
I’m surprised they interview they didn’t pull to many punches, I was worried they were going to lay all blame at the media and not enough at the RF
Also so happy abolish the monarchy is trending, and even in Canada articles are discussing the damaging interview for the RF and another article is talking about severing ties with the Monarchy- like Barbados wants/plans to do(didn’t read article fully)
As Harry alluded to the Australia tour triggered old feelings of Diana’s and Charles’ tour to Australia and the decision was made by the family to begin the smear campaign.
Do you think it’s the inbreeding and lack of exposure to the outside world that makes the leaders of the BRF so short sighted and, frankly, stupid?
How do they waste assets like Diana and Meghan that could exponentially increase their popularity and relevance for decades to come? All for what…ego?
I mean I’m glad that they are short-sightedly stupid as I’d love nothing better than an archaic racist blood soaked criminal institution fade away into irrelevancy and lose the Commonwealth – however, if I was a strategist in the BRF I’d have to make sure to not put that stint on my resume as it would just highlight my incompetency.
Yes! Great points.
I think it’s ego and flat out jealousy. What the Firm doesn’t seem to get is the world decided their level of interest in Diana and Meghan. Charisma like that is not something even the individual can control.
I think it has to do with their personal circle being so small. When they’re called “out-of-touch,” it doesn’t just mean they don’t understand the daily lives of non-aristos in terms of money, social justice, etc. It also means they’ve been brought up in a world with very different stakes and rewards than the rest of us, and they struggle with the press so much, maybe, because none of those rewards are achievable without public backlash. They can’t spend their money the way they want without spin, can’t lead the social lives they want without spin. In that circle the desire for intellectualism is low and the hierarchical hen-pecking is off the charts; all they really dream of is the day when they’re on top of the heap and the institution protects them from the public eye.
But they’re not stupid. So all a person has to be is fairly bright, motivated to do a good job, and un-resentful of the public’s expectations of duty in order to hold up a mirror to how crass and crawling their lives are. It’s a hard job but it’s not a difficult one, and Meghan proved how bad some of them are at it, despite being born to it, without trying.
Plus — and this really cannot be overstated — she’s the wrong kind of class usurper. Kate made it clear over a decade how much she was willing to lie down and be walked on for acceptance. She wanted the approval of that circle, spent money and years on it. Therefore if she succeeded, it was because she was (in part) their creature, trained and taught by them. When she did a good job it reflected well on her husband and in-laws, bought them public indulgence.
Meghan was never in their pocket, so as soon as she didn’t botch the job she was a threat. Public adulation is a zero-sum game to them, and what she “took” left them exposed in a myriad of ways. Being lovely and dedicated and biracial made her an asset to the INSTITUTION, but never the family itself, and from his phrasing I feel like that’s the distinction Harry started to recognize..
Hi @KL….I do believe ur last sentence is incorrect. Both the Institution/Firm AND the nembers of the Family (i:e the heirs) saw M as a threat; were jealous of her; and set out to cause her grievous harm.
@Carmen-Jamrock: She was an asset to the institution in the sense that she made the monarchy look better by being associated with it — like it was capable of evolving, of being more than… well, what it is.
They’re racists and classists, the pinnacle really of racism and classism. They definitely think they’re better than everyone else as a dynasty and they also know they’re weaklings as individuals, with the possible exception of Anne. It creates a toxic environment where people don’t act logically, but out of ego.
Meghan was advised as far back as 2018 that it would be better if she was 50% less? Oprah just revealed that on the morning show. The interview was twice as long, it had to be edited down for broadcast.
It’s a miracle really that she, actually both of them, survived the past few years.
I watched that interview with Oprah this morning, too. I think she said more than once how long the interview was … I hope her not-too-subliminal message was, we’ve got more receipts, so tread carefully. Of course, the RRs and the RF are the worst at PR, so they’ll keep stumbling into incriminating themselves.
I don’t expect we will see any of the royals set foot in the US for a long time to come. These thin-skinned bullies won’t dare. They’re going to sit on their little island and watch it all fall apart. They are getting exactly what they deserved.
That balcony moment really triggered them, didnt it?
Hearing Harry and Meghan confirm what we’ve been speculating about for years is unnerving. Like, the royal family really IS that mean and cold and petty. We weren’t wrong.
So many of us watched this go down in real time. The overwhelming reception to the tour, the first few stories against Meghan popping up soon afterward, then the full onslaught. One thing that didn’t get much attention from the media (surprise) was the fact that these were the biggest crowds in Australia for any royal tour, even Elizabeth’s. You can bet that the RF heard/read that info and were doubly infuriated.
William: mirror, mirror on the wall. Who is the most popular prince of all?
Mirror: Harry.
William: off with his head.
Mirror: we don’t do that anymore. Shall I call up the Daily Mail instead?
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In another room.
Kate: mirror, mirror on the wall, who is the keenest princess of all?
Mirror: Meghan is. She’s written a book, guest edited vogue and done a successful tour all in less than a year. Very keen.
Kate: I’m crying. Meghan has made tears fall down my snowy white cheeks.
Delightful. Well played.
Why anyone is surprised that the world’s premiere caste institution, the one that for 500 years colonized the world and created the verbalized concept of racial caste, is a racist organization is beyond me.
They are such in-bred fools that they will cut off their nose to spite their faces.
I wonder if The Firm understands that the commonwealth itself is in danger of ending when Queen E II passes on – in Canada we have no intention of putting Chuckle’s face on our monopoly-colour-coded-money.
RF: Good job, Meghan. Too good. We will destroy you.