On January 13th 2020, Prince Harry was preparing to sit down with his grandmother, his father and his brother for the so-called Sandringham Summit. It was happening just days after the Sun broke the story about the Sussexit, and the Sun’s story was largely based on Prince Harry’s letter to his father suggesting a possible avenue for the Sussex family to leave the UK for a time. That morning, the Times of London ran a story about how Harry wanted to leave the country because he was tired of Prince William’s “bullying attitude.” Shortly after the story came out, a statement came out, apparently from William and Harry. The statement:
“Despite clear denials, a false story ran in a UK newspaper today speculating about the relationship between The Duke of Sussex & The Duke of Cambridge. For brothers who care so deeply about the issues surrounding mental health, the use of inflammatory language in this way is offensive and potentially harmful.”
I wasn’t expecting any kind of update on that, even though it was just one more weird thing happening in and around the Sussexit at that time. Then last week, Omid Scobie published an essay in Harper’s Bazaar where he gave an update:
The couple’s exasperation came to a head in January 2020, when Kensington Palace urgently requested that Prince Harry cosign a statement against an “offensive” newspaper report stating Prince William “constantly bullied” the Sussexes before their decision to step away. “Well, if we’re just throwing any statement out there now, then perhaps KP can finally set the record straight about me [not making Kate cry],” Meghan emailed an aide, asking why side of the story public image was never considered important to anyone. But, as with many requests made by the couple, her suggestion was ignored. The Duchess of Cambridge, she was told, should never be dragged into idle gossip.
[Via Harper’s Bazaar]
If you’re a Sussex Squad member, you probably caught the odd thing about Scobie’s statement – he’s seen an email Meghan sent to Kensington Palace just after the Sussexit announcement. Just another receipt, kept by Harry and Meghan? Thankfully, Becky English at the Daily Mail noticed it too, and she was properly perturbed, noting in her coverage: “The email was clearly a private one, sent by Meghan to only two or three of her most senior staff at most. Its quoting in full raises the question of how it came into the author’s possession and was it leaked by the Duchess of Sussex herself? If not, then surely, critics asked yesterday, she would be complaining that a private email had been published without her knowledge.” Did the penny just drop? I think so. Do these f–kers get it now? Harry and Meghan have evidence to back up their story.
Speaking of, you know how Harry and William’s names were both signed onto that bullying denial? Yeah, apparently Kensington Palace just signed Harry’s name without Harry authorizing it. Not only did William bully his brother and attempt to exile Harry and Meghan, but William also signs Harry’s name to official denials about how William is a bully.
👀👀 "without consultation with the Duke of Sussex"?!?
This extract is from a piece by Valentine Low in TheTimes (today) regarding the Jan 2020 brothers "joint" statement about "the "bullying" attitude of the Duke of Cambridge" pic.twitter.com/BNHic6Igkp
— Anna 🌸 (@anna_itsonlyme) March 12, 2021
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Thank goodness they got out. Can you imagine them having to deal with King William (shudders)
So, about that bullying “investigation”…
Hehe this is gonna go horribly for them 🤣🤣!
I suspect the ex-PA has been on the phone frantically with Jason, trying to figure out how to extricate herself from this mess. I can’t imagine she wants the reason for her dismissal to become public knowledge, which it likely will if the BRF keeps pushing this.
She never wanted to file a complaint in the first place, right? (Instead she went to the tabloids) Jason Knauf used her too so he could suck up to William.
I have a question, can the Sussex’s sue the institution or firm for perpetuating the false leaks and character assassination?
Willnot and Karennot just keep digging their collective grave, omg. They are so, so horrible. I suspect their popularity as Charles ascends will plummet and they will eventually be the fall of the monarchy. Who could get behind them?
You can’t make this sh*t up. I’m not a bully or a racist – I’m perfectly justified in using my brother’s name because I AM THE HEIR! (voice inside Wills head).
Someone needs to stage an intervention with William. He really needs to get a clue.
I bet there is quite an echo in Will’s head.
Things are about to get HOT in the Kensington palace household!!
I’m sure they can withstand the heat, especially Kate – she is used to taking off her clothes. OOOOOO, did I say that (in my best Urkle voice) 🤐
Nah I need this investigation to go ahead! It’s gonna be too good and revealing! I also smell a fraud and forgery lawsuit coming ahead if the Cambridges keep pushing itt!! 😁 The Sussex’s are getting tired!
Never believed that statement for one second.
Same. It was so weird for Harry to come on the record about this one story when there were literally thousands more painting him and his wife negatively.
I always thought that statement was 100% William. Once it was out, Harry was just too much of a gentleman to call William out —- and William knew that. This is why I hope Harry truly cuts William from his life as much as he can. William will continue to use Harry in the worst possible way to excuse his own behavior. You can love the memory of someone, but not be able to live a healthy life with the toxicity of whom they have actually become.
Glad Harry has decided to let the facts come out about this. Mayhaps, he is truly letting William know he’s done with this sh-t.
KP Ford and signatures again!
KP forging signatures and statements again!!
Definitely adds another layer of evidence to Meghan’s claims that she didn’t authorize her name being taken off her child’s birth certificate. KP is signing people’s names without their consent all over the place.
@amy too- yes! I think you’re right that they are just signing off for others. It’s so crazy to be almost inconceivable but…I truly think only the surface has been skimmed on what all went down behind the scenes.
Since the palace came out with it was an error that Meghan’s name was taken off of the birth certificate, can they now apply to get her name put back on????
I feel like not only is William jealous because of their popularity, but he also wants to create a Edward vs George dynamic duty vs self service, which is what they tried to invoke with the statement and make him look better/more righteous through a creepy low-key racist hyper nationalism he wants to dog whistle to everyone ‘look not only is he traitor to his race, but to his country too!’
He wants to create the sympathy/respect dynamic people have with QEII for her duty and staying against all odds despite not growing up to be Queen.
But it simply won’t work, not just because he has a repugnant personality, but because unlike with Edward and Wallis, the Harry has a larger generational cross-continental and cross-racial legacy through his children which will continue to haunt the other side.
Edward and Wallace skulked off to Paris and lived a life of leisure off of the royal family’s allowance. They were lazy and fallow.
Harry and Meghan are making their own money, constantly working and building their own independent legacy.
There is no comparison.
also, the “Nazi sympathizers” in this comparison would be the Cambridges (the Windsors were Hitler syncophants, and the House of Cambridge are Brexit-MAGA syncophants, even though they hide that behind a micron thick veneer)
Plus, everything I’ve ever seen about Edward paints him as someone who very much loved the status and privileges of royalty, but didn’t want to do the work (now, who does that remind me of🤔).
I’ve always thought that particular history is part of the reason the firm never seemed to seriously consider Harry and Meghan leaving it all behind. None of the royals and their hangers on would voluntarily leave the lifestyle of privilege they lead, and few of them would survive if they did, let alone thrive.
And Harry isn’t the heir and he and Meghan want to work!
It is an incredible false equivalency.
William is Edward VIII in this scenario. He has been the spoiled heir to the heir from birth as was Edward VIII and neither ever took the Royal responsibilities seriously. He isn’t meeting with fascists yet, but William is quite tied to the right wing part of the UK government and easily manipulated because he’s dumb but no one has ever told him that.
“…because he is dumb and no one has ever told him that.” You have captured it in a nutshell.
I feel like M and H were saying – you have one opportunity to STFU right now, after this interview, and drop all the garbage and come clean, then sort yourselves out. I feel like the family took it to just be an interview, but in reality it was the Sussex’s way of saying ‘take note, we are willing to continue to participate in airing everything’ as opposed to ‘we got it off our chests and we’re good.’
So KP really didn’t get the memo and the Sussex’s are still pissed and A LOT is going to come out. And should. But Harry’s direct willingness to confront his brother publicly now…. amazing.
Turns out inbreeding to create so called “divine” blood really does hamper intelligence and result in an inferior product.
So where does that leave Harry?
I’d say Harry is a sport, in the biological sense.
“The Duchess of Cambridge, she was told, should never be dragged into idle gossip.”
Can you imagine how degrading this must have made Meghan feel? The implication is Meghan’s status means that they don’t give a fig about her name being dragged through the mud. She was supposed to accept that because the FFQC is so much higher in rank that it would be beneath her dignity to rectify the falsity about Meghan. Rank is one thing but deliberately misleading the public to uplift Kate is unforgivable.
So, so gross. That would have been the straw for me for sure.
Sorry but a denial of a damaging and incorrect report is not idle gossip.
True! Someone in the Firm dragged her into gossip when they leaked that story. A statement from the Palace would’ve put a stop to it instead of having FFQ mentioned in a lot of gossip articles about the insident.
And yet, they engaged with idle gossip about Kate Middleton’s “purported” Botox, among other things?
The hypocrisy is astounding with this couple. I really question how two people can be so unsympathetic and, frankly, dumb. You would think they’d have learned even a small iota of media savvy in the last decade and they just haven’t.
It’s even worse because Kate is the one who created the gossip. There is no way she or Carole were not responsible for the lie to go out.
This.
I think Kate bragged to Carole that she made Meghan cry and Carole decided she had to get on top of that story. She assumed Meghan is as duplicitous as she and Kate are and would leak the story to make the FFQ look bad, so they came up with the reverse as a story for the media. That way if Meghan told the truth, it would be she said, she said and the benefit of the doubt would go to Kate. Meghan played by the rules and said nothing until the Sussexes were out and the RF and the BM continued to attack her, even re-raising this incident, although there was an ocean and a continent between them. Harry and Meghan realized they would have to speak out. They have to force Betty to shut the press up and they are letting her know that she has much more to lose than they do when the truth comes out. For once in her life, Betty needs to read the room and not listen to her sycophant Courtiers.
I see William is gonna need a few more bitch slaps from Harry before he learns to keep Harry and his family’s name out of their mouth and to stop using them for their own agenda.
Harry is WARNING them to leave him alone and if they don’t, he’s dropping the receipts.
Yes Snuffles, I think you are spot on. I will keep getting the popcorn ready.
Yeah. William may think he has balls, but Harry definitely has them. William better not step out in the open as Harry is already armed, ready, and able. As they say in the military, Harry has seen the elephant and it changes you, forever.
Harry probably hopes his brother will learn. But William will not learn. Men like him never do. He’s never going to face any real consequences, because he’s so rich. Even if he did, he’d likely just whine that he was the victim here.
You can’t kill stories like this when the problem is relations between the brothers. If Kate wanted to help kill the crying story, she and Megan could have done joint appearances where they look like best friends. But if relationships were damaged, then that’s a bigger problem.
At this point, I would believe that the Queen and Charles would like this to go away, but they can’t if William feeds it. Fighting through the press isn’t the sign of someone looking for a reconciliation
I think we all knew that even if Harry had said “okay” to that statement, that it wasnt really willingly. But now its just out there that he wasnt even consulted? No wonder they got out.
Also – I like how Becky English is so concerned about how Omid got that email, but no one really seems to care how Valentine Low learned about the bullying accusations from 2018.
Becky English with the Bad Writing won’t shut up about how CBS should remove misleading tabloid headlines from the Oprah special. ITV apparently already caved. I’m still not sure how it was false or misleading to show them, we all saw the headlines.
I would be vastly surprised if CBS gives a fig. LOL, “Becky English with the Bad Writing.”
US networks don’t need to give a shit about UK laws. I don’t think they understand that over there.
The clock is ticking towards a major receipt dump and Wee Willy Winkie just keeps “Rumbling, tumbling round about, crowing like a cock”. He’s going to regret this….
Well, the Brits are known for their use of irony.
The Keenbridges are having quite the garbage PR week huh? First the shocking, tasteless, and let’s be honest weird “granny Diana” thing , then the obvious photo op on a dead girl’s grave, now this.
We get it – you need a new PR team. The general public is not the audience that needs to hear that complaint. Call up Petty Betty not the Mail next time.
I’m probably in a very small minority here, but … (Full disclosure: I stan the Sussexes all the way.)
Now that the big interview has taken place, and we’ve all had a week to pause and reflect — and watch the frantic pushback from courtiers, Chuckie, PWBT, and the tabloid press — I’m convinced that the lasting effect of that interview will be to raise the Sussexes’ popularity in the USA, Canada, Australia, and certain Commonwealth countries, and kill it in the UK.
I know that YouGov polling is highly suspect, but the general gist of opinion polls in the UK to date has been that both Harry and Meghan have lost popularity in the UK, although Chucky took a major hit as well. On the other hand, the reception of the interview has been pretty positive in the American press (except for Faux News, but who gives a rat’s butt about them), even while the UK tabloids froth and convulse. After two sympathetic interviews (Oprah and James Corden), the Sussexes are riding high in this country.
Despite the well-deserved disdain for PWBT on this website, he remains popular with his future future subjects. Certainly more popular than his father, anyways. Ofwilliam enjoys a similar glow. I’m not sure what, if anything, would sink the Cambridges’ popularity. Probably something so absolutely heinous, like child abuse, that the press would have no choice but to report on it. But even then, they’d make excuses for him and his useless wife.
Given the continuing animosity between the Sussexes and the BRF, the Sussexes’ popularity in media markets NOT part of the UK, given that the interview is out and the Sussexes have said their piece, and given all the horrific blowback in the UK, I’m thinking the best thing would be for them to make a complete split. No return visits to England. No new partnerships with UK charities unless the work can be done outside the UK. No contact or attempted rapprochement with Chucky or a**hole older bro, not even on Zoom. And no more public discussions or statements about what happened in the past while the Sussexes still lived in the UK — save that for if/when PWBT tries something so vicious (and he will) that it MUST be answered. F**king GHOST the royal family. Sever contacts with Blighty. They should continue to do the excellent work they do on behalf of underserved and vulnerable populations, maintain good working relationships with their existing nonprofits/charities, and let the royal family implode. I’m pretty convinced the royal family is halfway there, anyways.
I hope they avoid going back to the UK for a few years. There is no need to return to the scene of your pain just to make someone else feel better. The trade off is H and M viewed outside the UK favorably. The UK viewed by those outside the UK in an unfavorable manner.
H&M don’t need the public in the uk to like them; the royals do. H&M need the American markets especially and any others who might like them. It literally doesn’t matter if not a single brit ever stand for the Sussexes again, as long as they can sustain support in the US. It’s the royals who need to kowtow to the British public and and media for their continued support. I said this on another post Friday, but people need to stop thinking of H&M in terms of the uk because they don’t need it anymore.
Exactly, JT. H&M have moved to the global stage. In their own backyard, the Cambridges are popular with the tories and the oldsters, and they’ve lost many in the Commonwealth. They’re no longer a force beyond their borders.
While I agree that the Oprah interview didn’t make Harry and Meghan more popular in the UK, I do believe it damaged Billy and Cathy more than anything else ever has. Especially when within days Billy laughably tries to deny that the royal family is racist and Cathy tries to hijack the death of a young woman for good PR. Some see the cynical moves those were and that it confirmed what Harry was saying.
But that’s not true. The younger UK supports harry and meghan. 50 years and down. Only the Tories and oldies traditionalist supporting the royal family. Be careful some UK reporters pretending meg and harry loss popularity in UK.not true.
booboocita. This is a really good analysis. The interview has done wonders, I’m afraid, for the BRF. Their ratings, even for Charles, have gone up. W&K have done really well out of it, as well. In the UK H&M have dropped into negative numbers. I think H&M should now focus on their new life. It’s too bitter for them here and the dust needs to settle. Give it a long few months and the press will return to getting completely bored of W&K. They are truly boring. If Meghan hadn’t turned up, they would have muddled along, being called out for being lazy and bland. It took Meghan to switch their story. It is essentially a negative one: W&K are not liked for themselves, but for being the opposite of someone else. It will eat itself. Imagine your power base being the tabloid press, the worst of it, rather than people of integrity.
Cannot believe the guy i had a crush on growing up in his 30s acts like this immature and petty like a mean girl-
Becky English has no right to upset about Omid getting information when she is constantly being briefed by KP and BP.
Yes. Becky English was the one to talk about Kate’s broken Britain project days before Meghan’s cookbook was released and months before any more details ever came out.
She’s just jealous that Omid saw a few receipts, which doesn’t constitute publishing but she’s a sycophant so what do you expect.
What I wonder is if this is one of the items that Omid had to remove from his book for “legal” reasons. Is it possible that some aide gave him a copy of this when he was writing the book?
Didn’t Omid just quote what Meghan said in the interview? Or he could have just asked her for a comment. Doesn’t necessarily mean that he’s seen the email.
Does anyone think that maybe Charles is now acting regent and William is managing the duchy and that also speeded up the H and M departure? Does media know this and it is being used to blackmail C and W? They fear a backlash because Q’s supporters will not accept her leaving the throne except by death but she is not able to do the job anymore. With W managing the Duchy H and M are at the mercy of the brother who is always incandescent with rage.
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I actually believe this, too. I think part of the reason the Queen seems so out of the loop and wishy-washy in all of this is that she’s become a figurehead and is no longer involved in the day-to-day operations of the Crown. She knows what they tell her in an official sense, imo.
The interview was very gracious toward her and there were some comments that felt very cagey and like they were implying that — beyond the courtiers — she was no longer wielding power. She’s 94 and likely not at all there in the head; I suspect they think admitting this would be more damaging to the brand than wheeling her out once in a blue moon for an event.
I only follow passively, but I would suspect William holding the purse strings might also explain some of the Sussex’s money woes, no?
While I believe that Charles has taken over more responsibilities from the Queen that have been made public, there is no way he’s given William control of the Duchy money. That will only go to William when his mother passes.
I belive there’s a behind the scene tug of war between the queens courtiers and Chuck. As she’s gotten older, her staff has wielded more and more power, and they’re not willing to give it up until she passes. I think he has taken over a lot of the queens responsibilities behind the scenes, but wants more. There’s no way in hell he’d give PwT control of the Duchy until he officially has his hands on the Lancaster dutchy (when he becomes king), unless his hands have been forced (blackmail of some sort). Control of the duchy money gives Chuck a bargin chip to have some kind of control over PwT.
Although Charles ousted and replaced the queens old secretary so it seems like a lot of buckingham palace is controlled by Charles?
Of course Billy the Bully did that.
well, well, well. I remember when that statement was released (it was covered here) and it seemed dodgy then.
William are his partner wife are digging the royal family’s grave before their eyes
Nothings says “I’m a bully” like forging your brother’s signature on a statement proclaiming the opposite.
I’m guessing it read “I am very much not a bully!”
I would not be surprised to see a major news source — The New York Times, for example, suddenly drop an investigative piece to follow up on the Oprah interview. Included in the piece would be more receipts from Harry & Meghan on juicy tidbits like this bullying statement. I imagine H&M would both be okay sharing with a reputable American journalist; the rest Meghan will keep for her book. Are the royals forgetting that there is nothing stopping Meghan from writing her own story now, complete with receipts? If they thought Finding Freedom was scary, can you imagine what Finding Harry: Heartbreak, Hope and Happily Ever After by the Duchess of Sussex would do to William? I’m laughing just thinking of how short-sighted the royals are as they continue to disparage Meghan this week and last.
Honestly, I think that was part of the reason for their excessive praise of the Queen and Prince Philip. Well I think there were a few reasons for it – I think they knew that any criticism of the queen would not go over well, and I do think they genuinely are on good terms with her. But I also think it was a warning shot of sorts – we love Harry’s grandmother, we respect her, she is old, Philip is old, we dont want to hurt them – but we wont necessarily have the same restraint about the rest of you (i.e. once the queen passes, all bets are off and I think Charles and William know it.)
MsIam, I think IIRC that Omid wrote when he talked to people (who?) that everyone said no one cried. That’s all he said.