It’s increasingly become a mind-bending experience to try to sort through the British media’s reactions and the Windsors’ reactions to everything about the Sussexes. Prince Harry and Meghan have clearly positioned themselves as victims of a rabid, racist press and a structurally incompetent and uncaring monarchy. And the British media’s reaction has been to treat Harry and Meghan like they’re the aggressors, like they’re the ones “victimizing” the poor white royals in their palaces and castles. And once again, I have to ask, why are British people *allowing* that to happen? It’s how I felt with the Piers Morgan sh-t too – Piers was enabled by the fact that he actually had a wide swatch of support from viewers and sponsors. The Windsors positioning themselves as “victims” of Harry and Meghan also seems to have the same kind of support from British people and from the British media. It’s INSANE. We’re supposed to feel bad for the Windsors because Meghan spoke about how traumatized and suicidal SHE felt. I guess that’s why hundreds of people on Bitter Isle have been sending letters of support to the Queen.
The Queen has been deluged with hundreds of letters of support and encouragement in the wake of the Meghan and Harry interview, The Mail on Sunday has learned. Every day, sacks full of post are delivered to Windsor Castle where the Queen has been in lockdown with the Duke of Edinburgh since his release from hospital. The cards, gifts and letters are said to be a source of great comfort to the Monarch after the Duke and Duchess of Sussex accused the Royal Family of racism.
A source said the Queen has been ‘pleased’ to receive messages of support at what has proved to be a difficult time for the family. The Queen’s 83-year-old lady- in-waiting Dame Mary Morrison replies to every letter, with the help of other Palace aides, including fellow ladies-in-waiting. Some responses are said to be deeply personal, with Dame Mary thanking correspondents for their ‘loyal support’, adding that the Queen appreciates the good wishes and ‘kindness’ shown towards the Royal Family ‘at this time’.
A source said: ‘We have seen a spike in correspondence after the interview in the same way that it might spike after any other event.’
“The cards, gifts and letters are said to be a source of great comfort to the Monarch after the Duke and Duchess of Sussex accused the Royal Family of racism.” I told you it was a mind-bending exercise. I mean, I accept the fact that older British people find comfort in the Queen, or perhaps enjoy the pageantry of it all, who knows. There’s probably a comparison between this and the many Americans who are just incapable of acknowledging and addressing institutional racism and institutional bias. But it just seems like a g–damn cult. And here’s the other thing: the people writing those letters are not young. Every demographic breakdown of “reactions to the Sussexes” has younger people supporting Harry and Meghan and acknowledging inequality and structural, baked-in racism and colonialism in British institutions and the royal family. It’s the older people who can’t or won’t understand so they act like the Queen is the “victim.” What happens when those older folks die out?
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How many of those letters are from POCs and black and brown people of the Commonwealth?
I’m sure there have been letters but I’m also sure the amount has been exaggerated. I’m also sure there were just as many angry letters as there have been supportive letters. All these people do is lie. It’s the key to their survival.
Im pretty sure there were no angry letters but there were also 0 letters of support from POC and im pretty sure the numbers have been exaggerated.
I don’t know about that. I mean I’m kind of shocked there even were letters. Who writes letters now unless they really have to? It has to only be much older people.
On the other hand, I’m British and of the people I’ve spoken to, most anger and hatred towards Meghan, particularly over the interview has come from my friends who are POC.
Oh dear the RF is in serious trouble and they know they are on their way out. This propaganda proves that they are losing the plot. We were told no one would watch the interview. Millions did. We were told the Sussexes won’t find jobs and will come back begging they haven’t. These distraction techniques are not a good look.
GraceB, have your POC friends told you exactly *why* they are full of “anger and hatred” for Meghan? What did she do to them, other than try and support POC communities?
Being a POC doesn’t stop anti blackness as people like Priti Patel have shown. People might not like her personality or the way they left the firm but Meghan hasn’t done anything to justify an outsider’s anger or hatred.
@GraceB, you know a lot of self hating POC then, you should probably rethink your association. I know such people exist, they’ve always exist. They were the people who led the slave catchers to where they could find the most people to capture and profited until it was their turn. They were the people who snitched on those slaves attempting to escape. Roya Nikka, that Candace woman, they are everywhere. Thankfully, they are not the majority and not a good gauge of how POC think.
Exactly. More propaganda like those tabloid polls. This actually feels like a Donald Trump move bragging about public support lol.
I think the general public in Britain have a lot of affection for the Queen but my guess is only a few sad royalists would take the time to write to express sympathy after the interview. I’d also guess the uptake is more sympathy/get well cards for Philip after he was hospitalised& the press were hyping his impending passing than anything & palace sources are pretending it’s about the Sussexes
I am from Africa malawi to be specific we are a commonwealth country, and we are black people and the majority of my country old and young are against Meghan…even I was shocked.
Courtiers went through those letters and cherry pick the ones to show her.
They keep forgetting that Oprah interview was censored on Shutter Island, but in other Countries it was not, so they’re getting feedback from Commonwealth Countries, otherwise they would not be bringing in these token people to give an appearance of a clean up.
It wasn’t censored. They WANTED to censor it but Oprah made it a condition of the selling of rights that ITV was required to show the interview in full.
Wasn’t it ITV that censored the newspaper headlines in their version of that chat?
Frankly, with their track record for lying and telling a story that’s fundamentally opposite to actual events, I don’t believe a d@mn thing they say. Just like Piers and Co., disbelieved Meghan’s pain and the truth about the crying fable, I don’t believe it.
Like you say, throughout the entire interview, the Queen was the only person in the family that emerged unscathed and smelling like a rose. If you ask me, this smells like someone in the Firm is going into overdrive defending the honor of that cult. The way they are carrying on, Betty has some dirty hands too. Harry loves his grandmother. The only thing that was a teeny bit critical was the bit about her suddenly having no time to speak or meet with him after she said that she would.
All these leaky shenanigans just show the wider world outside of that cultish culture, that something in the milk ain’t clean in the Firm.
@809Matriarch: agreed. The only insider telling his story is Harry and he is protecting the Queen, which is literally his job and purpose in life. At first I took his statements at face value, like everything is cool between him and his grandma. Then I remembered how many times he has said that his role in life is to serve the sovereign and that Meghan signed up for it too. He can’t wash that out of his system – everything could be great, but who knows?
It doesn’t really matter but even his mom, who openly speculated about her life being in danger at the hands of those that protect and serve the sovereign, never laid any fault for anything at the foot of the person and the role that is at the center of all of this: the Queen.
Harry is the only credible person in all of this bc he is struggling to tell his story while taking personal responsibility for all that happened (esp. when he admitted that he did not help his wife, that he was embarrassed by her struggle, and hat failed to be able to protect her when he made those 3 public entreaties and when she asked for medical treatment (this is the kind of stuff that comes out of months of therapy), while protecting the Queen. Others are deflecting and lying to save themselves.
RE: your 2nd paragraph
Yep! Firstly, there have been other times when something happened in/to the royals and the subjects sent letters and cards. Used to be the reporting would say “thousands” of pieces of mail were coming in every day, the postmen were swamped, la la la. Now, it’s just hundreds and that tells you something. Especially since, yes, they do exaggerate. Not just the royals, but everyone who has to brag on social media or in the regular media has been shown to exaggerate constantly, and will even openly talk about it if they think they are off the record.
So, really, there’s shrinking support for these layabouts and that will likely get worse. And good for them I say. They need a return to real human dignity, not the indulgence they’ve been used to. You can see what it’s done to their characters. They should have to work, and work hard for what they get. Most of their inherited wealth should be taken away and given to the country. And the British people will benefit as well. Not only from having an infusion of financing for governance, but also from having their society reflect the reality that these people are not better than any other and are not ordained by God to rule.
This comment is actually for @ ELLEEAGLE:.
TBH I couldnt even read ur entire post because I felt so strongly tht I had to correct this pt u made tht H said his purpose in life is to serve the sovereign!!!???!!!
H said no such thing!
On the contrary, he said in December at a televised veterans’ event tht he while he was born into a life of duty, it was after his experience in the army, tht he dedicated his life in service to his fellowman.
Also in his intvw wth Cordon he reiterated tht his life is abt service & it doesnt matter where in the world he lives, he’ll always serve otbers and tht Meghan has “signed up for this” wth him.
In case u or others ate still in any doubt, H emancipated himself, wth M’s help, from the cult of the BRF. He was TRAPPED! he said. And said his father & brother remain trapped.
H is a free man. NOT in life-long servitude to a self-deluded queen who thinks she’s ordained by god to rule over humans who are considered to be lesser creatures.
Meh…I read it was “hundreds” of letters so I took that as like a couple of hundred? Also, who writes letters anymore other than octogenarians?
As a boomer, I write letters as more of an affection to personalization of hand written letter. But I am in agreement that a majority of these so-called letters of support are more of an reflection to her husbands ill health than letters of support of her and the entire racists actions of the BRF. May they all die of a thousand paper cuts in regards to their racist actions and their systematic racism of driving a spectacular WOC who was the changing face of the 21st century. What they did to Meghan was unforgivable and should stand as a testament to the racist POS that they truly are.
Yeah, “hundreds” is an incredibly small number of letters for something like this.
“ What happens when those older folks die out?” Hopefully the Commonwealth and the monarchy cease to exist as well. Canada will be just fine without Chuck’s face on its currency.
Oh ffs – I didn’t even think of Chuck’s face being on our money! That would be awful. We have much more deserving Canadians who should be. I used to be such a monarchist until everything went to hell in a hand basket because of baldy and his whiny dad.
Me, too
Lizzie’s face needs to be replaced by David Suzuki on all of the currency STAT!
Will they die out, or do people age into support for the monarchy. Like the older they get, the less open to change they get.
I’d love to see what those letters say. I’ll bet 99% of them are not safe to print. Common phrases likely include “colored woman” and variations on that theme. Lack of “gratitude” likely figures as well.
The royal family is showing us who they are. It’s time we all believe them. They stand for hierarchy, white supremacy, entitlement, and inertia. They are the ideal representatives for backwards looking Brexit England.
When I saw the headline, my first thought was to wonder if the letters are from the fan base that sent death threats to Meghan and Archie.
That Venn diagram is a circle. And reporting such letters of support from the same people that send a baby in utero death threats is vile.
I bet the vast majority do not even mention the Sussexes and instead are only get well messages for Philip and similar support for the Queen as Philip recovers.
People tend to get more conservative with age (not all, obviously, but on avarage). Mostly because they see their youth through romanticized lense.
And rightwingism is on the rise in Europe.
So those two combined, I don’t think we’ll live to see much change. Perhaps a small drop in popularity, but the royal family won’t be gone by the time of King George Whatever Number. Nor will it change all that much, at least less than the whole of society. Conservatism is kinda their schtik.
I don’t know, with Brexit it’s going to be a different Britain.
World wide Covid19 effect on economies has been devastating.
If Boris girlfriend keep up her spending of tax payers money, the royal budget is going to get cut like the military’.
They could get less money, but they won’t be completely cut. What that might do is give their plan to cut Harry and Archie out more legitimacy in the eyes of the Brits. Charles and his “thinning down the monarchy” and all that. This comes handy for him. Meh.
Nanny that has been fairly true in the past but there has been an interesting change due to the economic implications older millennials and Gen x’a are now facing. What’s at the core of it is the cascading effect that the financial choices of the boomers have had on the social choices of their children. Effectively even if a millennial/gen xer grew up with money they are the first generation to not make as much/more than their parents did even in the same field. This is due to the unregulation of the past coming home to roost. It’s forced the younger generations to contend with the sins of the father in a stark way and has made many realize the importance of social programs that their parents once derided. Many of us in those age brackets are acutely aware that many of the problems we now face come from Regan era policies that made our parents a lot of money but were unethical. It in turn makes us critical of our parents “values”. It also begins to force the older generations to re-examine their own histories through the lenses of privilege wherein they have to reconcile the story they have told themselves about how they made themselves a success, with the reality that they took advantage of a system built to help them succeed. Many in the older generations cannot reconcile to this and become dug into their “stories of success” closing them off to change as it will mean admitting they are not who they have told themselves they are for the past 50+ yrs.
I’d think that’s reasonable if I didn’t see the opposite happening. I’m gen X and people of my generation (and something like 10 years younger) are turning harshly conservative VERY fast (to a scary degree). I don’t see much re-examining going on, just pining for the distant past.
The same can be seen in the comments of our major newspapers. Acceptance of different religions, of LGBTQ+, universal income and other progressive ideas is down. H&M, who don’t concern us AT ALL, were harshly attacked by the public, which for some reason likes the monarchy of a country 7 borders away.
Perhaps I’m just pessimistic, but the times are not looking good.
It’s like whenever economic depression comes, the people blame the easiest target, not the ones truly to blame.
That’s a very fair point. I’m basing most of my analysis on what I’ve read in economic trends from the economist and conversations I’ve had with my dad. He worked on wall street throughout the 80s/90s and now is a professor of finance. It’s very eye opening to discuss things like this with him. Especially in the context of Britain as he is from England and as far as I know never became an American citizen. We’ve had some really good discussions on how the aristocracy is inherently racist as there was never an opportunity for those of color to marry in/get titles.
Sorry side track! I love this sorts of discussions!
I’m Gen X as well, and everyone I knew in high school who’s on Facebook has gotten significantly more left-wing than they were as teenagers. Not just more liberal, though there’s that, but actually left-wing. I don’t think “generations” mean much of anything.
Only one person I knew became more right-wing (extremely so), and he was always an asshole, so it didn’t surprise me. That’s a ratio of one right-winger to like 40 now left-wingers, at least half of whom used to identify as moderate to conservative. The latter includes a bunch of devout Christians.
As a boomer, I am sick and tired of the many benefits of those in the higher income brackets have benefited even though I am in a higher tax tax bracket. The Reagan era of benefiting from the poor and middle class is abhorrent to me. Just as Warren Buffet declared that those in the higher tax brackets should be paying a higher percentage of taxes as opposed to the lower and middle class. I also find great insult to the benefits that higher paying individuals have benefited from these tax loopholes that those in the lower to middle class have no access to. I, as someone from lower to upper middle class find it insulting as I am afforded more advantages to write offs where as the lower-middle class are not. I am in agreement that those considered as boomers, like myself, have benefited from Reagan tax benefits. There is no reason why those in the following generations should have to suffer from lower wages as opposed to those of my generation. But I also suffered from being cast as a divorced mother of two being paid $0.70 to the dollar as my white counterparts. My only benefit was being white whereas my counterparts WOC were paid even less than my $0.70 to my pay scale. The entire system pay scale of racism to benefit the white male workers are a blight to our entire history of gender equality.
The pendulum swings in both directions, and progress is incremental. But I’ve been around long enough to know that the only constant thing is change.
I keep hearing that people get more conservative as they age, seeing surveys, etc. But I do not know one person who’s gotten more conservative with age. I know people who’ve stayed the same and people who’ve gotten more lefty. My mom used to be a solid Democrat and now she votes for the Working People’s Party almost always, for instance. I haven’t gotten more conservative in middle age, and I don’t see it happening in old age either. So I feel like this is not true.
The current prevalence of conservative backlash is an extinction burst. The world is progressing, as it does.
The Brits voted for Brexit because they’re racist so this is unsurprising.
Thousands of support letters when you have millions of “subjects.”
Seems like a fail to me.
And there’s no way an 83 year old lady in waiting is personally responding to all of them, unless thousands is really tens. They act. Like we don’t know about form letters and the auto pen.
Yeah she’s not answering letters. Some people from the comms team are doing that.
And we already know that the comms team is staffed with lazy entitled morons.
Did people not watch the same interview I did? The Queen came off the best. Between the interview and James Corden, the Queen came across as the most human she has in years, lol. I feel like people just used to talk about her horses and dogs as examples of ways she was “just like us,” but those two interviews – she came across like a grandmother/great-grandmother who liked to zoom with her great grandson, sent him a waffle maker for christmas so he has waffles every morning, Meghan has a direct line to her, Philip cant figure out how to hang up on Zoom, and Harry made a point of clarifying to the Queen that neither she nor Philip had the skin color conversation.
I mean I could see if the letters were like, “Sorry your son and grandson are aholes” or “fire the courtiers,” but the idea that the queen is the victim in all of this is just ridiculous and gaslighting.
Lol the press knows exactly what they’re doing. Meghan and harry went out of their way to speak kindly of the queen, philip and even kate. And yes harry actually made her sound human. But charles, william and the british press it seems, need to hide behind the queens skirt to make harry& meghan out to be the bad guys.
That’s exactly what they’re doing – they’re pushing this story of “the queen is hurt,” “they insulted the queen” as cover for Charles and William.
What will be interesting will be what happens when the queen passes and Charles and William cant hide behind her anymore.
@becks1 that would be a long time if she possesses the same longevity of her mother
At this point not that long – she’s 95 next month, her mother died at 102 (I think? Maybe 101?)
If Charles takes after his mother and his father, then William is going to have a long wait for the throne, which I dont think will please Carole, ha.
Just popping back to say that according to some random royal history account I follow on IG, the QM died at 101 and today is actually the anniversary of death, so kind of weird that we were discussing it.
At this point i have to ask what kind of water people are drinking in the UK because it different than the rest of the world. The RF are no victims. For 100th time: had they treated meghan fairly and publicly supported her none of this would have happened. They are the creators of their own problems.
They should just hang up a sign: Welcome (sort of) to Britain, where racism hurts US more than it does YOU.
This is just another case of the press projecting their own feelings onto the Queen.
I believe that is the question that the royals are trying hard not to think about “what happens when the old folks die out?”. The next 10 years are going to be trying ones for the BRF and I don’t know if they will survive it.
I’m fascinated by the idea of the ladies in waiting. What are the duties of the ladies in waiting? Are they paid? How are they chosen? Is it life long position? Can they be married? How many are there? Do other Royals like Camilla or Kate have them?
They are mostly secretaries to the Queen. They are chosen from aristocratic families, they are unpaid, they’re already rich themselves. Yes, they get married (Queen E is godmother to some of their children).
Meh. I would have expected far more since there are millions of subjects, so yeah… I’m sure they got lots of letters. Some in support. Some not. But anyways that’s not exactly an amount they should be boasting about.
So are they brainwashed or something? I don’t see how these Brits revere a useless institution they are financing with their own tax money so much. So strange
My thought, too. A monarchy in 2021 is insanity. #abolishthemonarchy
Right? And corona/quarantine really showed just how completely useless and a waste of money they are. They are so lazy they aren’t even working when they could just do it from zoom! If they really were as charitable as they want to seem they would end this themselves and do that work privately, not brag about “duty”
I assume she is receiving the same amount of correspondence or maybe a small uptick as always. People write to her in order to display the response.
So despite Kate trying to paint herself as victim, she’s not receiving “hundreds” of letters of support? Where are the letters for Will and Charles? Not a good sign for survival of the monarchy if only the very elderly are supported. This is just another sign to me that the Queen is failing H&M. Harry supported her and said nice things about her, why is she in need of comfort? She could return the favor and say “I’m fine. I don’t need comforting.”, at the very least.
She is not a granny in this scenario, she’s the crown and she will protect it at any cost even at the cost of her grandson and his family. My hopes is that the longer Harry stays away the more the brainwashing they’ve all been subjected to wears off and he will say _____ them all. I think poor Meghan is humoring him at this point when it comes to his, “I respect my grandmother and always will.” Meghan is not brainwashed, that’s why she was suicidal, she sees it all clearly and was trapped in a situation where only she could see the nakedness of everyone and struggled not to reveal what she was seeing. I would have been suicidal too in her shoes, frankly, I don’t know how she made it out of there. I think of some of her zoom calls now and you can clearly see the difference in her lately and then. #AbolishtheMonarchy and save the next generation that’s the most humane thing that England can do.
The last statement is the most important which is why it’s buried at the end. That the spike is simular to spikes after other “big events” tells you that really what they are seeing now is no different than what they typically see but they are trying to make it seem significant. Also, the language around the support is sort of vague. The fact that the letters came after the interview doesn’t mean they were about the interview. Remember Philip was in hospital at the same time. The spike may be related to that. The support may be expressions of support for her ill husband. They are very slick with how they worded this saying the letters came after the interview not saying they were actually about the interview or a reaction to the interview. They are using the timing to imply that. If they had received a outpouring of letters specifically denouncing the Sussexes and unconditional supporting the Queen the tabloid would have had that in a screaming headline.
exactly! what a country and what a “press” if you can even call it that! a country where tabloids are the press…..incredible!
Can you imagine TMZ as news in the US? the tabloids in the uk look so much like fox news over here…..Fox does have real journalists and Chris Wallace but their “opinion” segments are the ones with the ratings and those are straight shit hate reporting!
I hate to give TMZ any sort of credit, but at least they have real scoops. I don’t think they have ever just make up news. The BM just straight up lies. It’s crazy that tabloid “news” make up the bulk of their media.
“I don’t think they have ever just make up news.” You’re making a joke, right? Nobody, I mean nobody believes that anything on TMZ is true or accurate. You’re just pulling our leg, aren’t you?
No I’m not pulling your leg. Most of tmz news comes from the horses mouth. Is that news slanted, of course. You think their Johnny Depp news is pulled out of thin air? Or brad Pitt for that matter? And I don’t think they’ve just linked somebody to terrorism before. Nowhere did I say that tmz is some perfect bastion of journalistic integrity, but knowing how the BM operates, I’d rather deal with the former if I was famous. And they do break quite a bit of celebrity news and that cannot be denied.
TMZ knew Kobe Bryant and his daughter were dead before his wife did.
@emmit exactly tmz isn’t perfect and they are trash at times (the Kobe news is one of those instances) but they have legitimate sources in celebrity gossip and they are at the forefront of those stories. I think they are more reliable than the BM at times.
Just chiming in to agree with everyone about TMZ. They’re trash but they don’t make stuff up. They DO get some major scoops. Especially when someone famous dies.
So are there cards in the drugstores now that say, “Sorry your family accused you of racism. Things will be better soon!”? I’m sure there are lots of letters to the Queen written by 80-year-olds saying “I never saw any racism at all in the royal family and I’ve been reading Majesty magazine ever since Lady Di.”
This story sounds like BS to me
Apropos of nothing: since when do official pictures of the Queen include overstuffed couches? All I’ve ever seen are her gilt chairs and suddenly she and Philip are sitting together on a sofa that has pillows with pompoms and a coffee table with an artful spread of what look like the equivalent of “Granny Diana” cards. The background looks like a painted screen.
I dunno, the picture gives me the vibe of a commercial during the segment where they say “ask you doctor if Racism is right for you. Side effects may include Royal Rota Syndrome, clownery, blindness, leprosy, infections requiring a month of hospitalization, undisclosed heart procedures, imminent death due to interviews, and baldness.”
Are sofas now A Thing in royal PR?
I don’t know if I even believe this, they all just lie so much. There was a recent poll in the Independent (or the Guardian) showing that black and brown Brits are in favor of H&M, and that they believe the royals are racist. Shortly after, the article was removed. British people should be concerned about how much influence the royals have on their press, but they just keep saying nobody cares about the royals. Well, you all should. It’s disturbing, how much is covered up for them. The RF have your press on lockdown.
Maybe she received two letters, F and U, repeated hundreds of times.
Lol
My tea went up my nose. Lol!!
This doesn’t even make any sense. She wasn’t accused of anything and they spoke lovingly of her. I swear this sounds like a Charles thing to take a swipe at Harry like see people don’t care or believe that we’re racist.
Her lady in waiting if 83.
Eight. Three.
If Betty had even a bit of self awareness, that should tell her something.
I can imagine the courtiers and aides, pulling all nighters, writing the “support letters”
The answer was provided in the question, “what happens when these old people die off?” These old people know time is not on their side and their perceived way of life is slipping away by their so called standards. Thus the “othering” of people who don’t look or think like them. Younger people just don’t seem to have as much anxiety when it comes to the global community.
For a moment I thought the letters were showing support to Meghan and Harry. Sigh
If there was a spike it could also be because people were writing over Prince Philip’s hospitalization. The press just has to drag the Sussexes into everything.
I’m really curious how they would respond to a letter of support praising them (openly or subtly) for their racism.
HUNDREDS huh? There are nearly 68mil people in the UK. ITV received over 40k in complaints against Piers Morgan. “Hundreds” of letters isn’t anything to brag about. The BRF truly have awful PR instincts.
Hundreds of letters of support. I’m betting they also got hundreds of letters calling them out on their racism and cries of “Abolish the monarchy!” But they’ll omit that part, of course. Good grief! These palace PR mouthpieces are such amateurs.
“Hundreds” is barely anything. I’m surprised it’s so low. But also, Harry and Meghan were careful to praise Elizabeth and make her seem like a normal grandmother. Why would she need support?
The tabloids keep pretending that the Sussexes attacked the queen and Kate in the interview when they did the opposite. They’re throwing these women under the bus to protect Charles and Will. It’s really gross.
I meant to say Prince Charles *not* Prince Andrew, apologies! Please can you update it in my reply. Thank you!