In the first days since Prince Philip’s passing, there actually was not much talk of Prince William. Like, I have no idea what kind of relationship William had with his grandfather, and I haven’t seen anyone talking about their relationship specifically. You would honestly think that Prince Harry was the Queen and Philip’s favorite grandchild from the way the British media has focused on it. You would also think that Harry’s return to the UK for his grandfather’s funeral is akin to the return of the prodigal son. All of which means that the Other Brother is going to need some extra support in coming weeks, support from his real family: the Middletons.
Prince William will be supported by wife Kate Middleton’s family at his grandfather Prince Philip’s funeral — where he’ll come face-to-face with his brother, Prince Harry, for the first time in more than a year, Page Six is told. The 39-year-old Duchess of Cambridge’s parents, Carole and Michael Middleton, are due to attend the service for the Duke of Edinburgh, who died at age 99 on Friday.
The 38-year-old heir to the British throne — who has been taking on more and more responsibilities in the royal family in recent years — has long adored his in-laws. It’s particularly important for William to have their support as he is said by royal sources to be “heartbroken” after Harry laid bare their rift during a blockbuster interview with Oprah Winfrey last month.
Philip’s funeral is set to be held at St George’s Chapel in Windsor Castle next Saturday after eight days of public morning in the UK, and it will be a family affair.
A royal source revealed that the Middletons have also grown close to Charles and his wife, Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall, saying: “They really are all good friends.”
As Page Six reported last month, William and Kate, who have been in pandemic lockdown at their Norfolk home with their children, dreaded the “soap opera” of Harry and his wife Meghan Markle’s interview with Winfrey. “They don’t wish to elevate this soap opera — it’s honestly like watching Elizabeth Hurley in ‘The Royals,’” a source added. “William and Catherine are surrounded by goodness, they have the Middletons, Carole and Mike, Pippa and her husband, James, and James Middleton and his fiancée, Alizee. They’re such a grounded, happy family.”
For years now, Carole Middleton has behaved like royalty, although it’s gotten even creepier recently. I generally believe that Carole is running a communications office out of Bucklebury (probably right next to her grow operation) and she’s been frantically embiggening Kate for the past year, almost like something very specific has scared the sh-t out of the Middletons. Still, Carole thinks that she’s almost Queen-like, having raised the Future Future Queen and being so beloved by the Other Brother. It’s a really bonkers situation and no, I don’t believe that Camilla and Charles are “good friends” with the Middletons. Come on. Charles thinks William is a putz for being so enamored with the Middletons. But it makes sense that the Other Brother needs the support of the Middletons so he can bravely bully Harry at their grandfather’s funeral.
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Instead of actual family to support Elizabeth?
Look who’s making the funeral all about himself? TOB.
I wonder if CarolE will bring enough cheese toast to pass out to everyone, a slice with every service card. I’m sure TOB will need his to Keep Calm and Carry On with Harry there.
Bwahahahahaha 😂 😂 😂 😂 please Lord, let the friggin’ Middletonedeafs attend while ALL government dignitaries declined so as to make room for the real royals LOL. I was uncle Gary to be there too with his current girlfriend and her cousin’s best friend, 😆😆😆
That was my first thought, too – the dodgy uncle. With strict rules of appropriate behaviour and dire consequences if he embarrasses them… too funny.
Middletonedeafs! 😂 😂😂
The Middletons are indeed like Wisteria. The stranglehold they have on TOB seems to be tightenning by the minute. I believe Charles has no time for them as he has let it be known via leaks in the press that he barely gets any time with his grandchildren. If anyone should be there it should be Penny who was mentioned as Philip’s close friend and confidante. It would be interesting to see how this all plays out.
I thought under current pandemic restrictions only 30 could attend funeral? And doesn’t that 30 include the priest, etc., to equal 30 total in the same space? Also, I can’t believe that anyone other than the Queen gets to decide who those 30 are? As to Penny, whatever their relationship was, they were both entirely supportive of and respectful of the Queen. The Queen in her turn, always includes Penny. My thinking is, Penny bid her farewells to Phillip privately and the funeral will be immediate family, extremely close friends or staff — both Phillip’s and Elizabeth’s.
That this is in Page Six and not one of the British tabloids makes me think it’s completely made up.
American here
Who. Is. Penny?!?!?
Penny is the mistress living with Philip up until he was moved to Windsor castle last year for covid purposes. Penny is known as Countess Mountbatten and she was married to Phillip’s cousin.
Didn’t Penny Knatchbull pass away 4 years or so ago?
Why is Willnot asking the Berkshire Kardashians to come to G’pa Racist’s funeral?
What is the actual point of him doing that? To make Cannot more “comfortable” since the Yorks they perennially crap on will be there? To make himself feel like he has less enemies in that family than he actually has?
Ye gods, what a porknob. I don’t know how he could possibly make his grandfather’s funeral more about himself, unless he decided to rage-stroke out on a tidal wave of incandescence because Harry refused to interact with him.
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I am going to scream if the Middletons are there!
I swear. I would laugh SO hard. 😂 and it would only confirm that william is a weak little man.
While they won’t turn down the invitation, I’m hard pressed to believe they will actually get one unless the BRF intends to flaunt the 30 person rule.
With all the other born Royals and there spouses, I see no way Ma & Pa Middleton can attend and not violate the 30 people only attendance rule.
The Middletons would NEVER turn down a royal invite – even if hell did freeze over.
I agree. This is Ma Middleton hinting that she and her husband would really, REALLY like an invite. And absent the pandemic, they surely would be in attendance. But with the 30-person limit, I honestly don’t see how they could be included. Besides the immediate family (down to the grandkids, but not the great-grands), there are still-living contemporaries of Philip who are friends of the Queen as well, and they’ll want to be there. I imagine the Queen would be more willing to see them there, rather than the Wisteria Family.
It’s the level of crassness the royal family deserves, but even I can have some sympathy for Betty. Let’s hope for the queen’s sake they turned down the invite.
Fat chance of that happening!! Carole and her demented mind would accept an invite to watch the BP kitchen staff serve dinner to actual true aristos, unlike herself.
The only person I have sympathy for right now is The Queen, having been married for 73 years and having known each other much longer. Wilileaks and his Keen Ma and Pa can stick it!!
There is no way they are there. Family+friends+staff= even BoJo declined to go. Chuck won’t let them come.
Given the RF’s attitude towards well everyone, I’m surprised that staff would be part of the 30 allowed? The royals aren’t known to mingle with those lesser than. I bet that snake Angela Kelly will be there. Who else does the queen have as a close friend?
Harry invited his nanny for Archie’s christening. I think some kind of secretaries/assistants will attend Phil’s funeral too. Up to 2-3 persons but they will be there. It is for closest family/friends only. Middletons will never be The Family even when their delusional Ma tries to convince everyone that they are.
Think Boris was even invited? He’s not personally liked by the people who know him well.
They are invited because Wilileaks and Keen Doucheness are demanding that they attend. WTF??? Phillip was the consort and there are much more deserving people that should be there than the Middleton grifters! This isn’t a funeral for Phillip, this is Wilileaks using this tragedy for TQ to make it about him, as usual.
Given that only 30 people can attend – I will believe it when i see it. The immediate RF will make up more than half of those numbers and then there is his personal staff and members from his own family.
This is pure Middleton PR to shove themselves into the middle of the story to remind us all that they exist with ‘WHAT ABOUT US, WE’RE ROYAL TOO’. Didn’t some commenters predict this yesterday on one of the Royal threads? That they’d be putting out a story about being Williams rock.
Plus Chuck hates Ma with a passion.
This. If you only have 30 v precious spots, will two of them really go the Middleton seniors? Hope that even if Baldemort throws his toys out of the pram, the Queen won’t let her hand be forced on this one. But also, considering the PM (!!) rejected the invitation to allow more family to attend, it would just look so tone deaf if the Middys did go.
Shouldn’t the seats go to aging cousins who,live at Kensington? Gloucestershire and Princess Pushy, Margaret’s kids?
You forgot The Duke of Kent and his sister Princess Alexandra.
And the Kents are cousins to Philip as well as Elizabeth. There’s no way the Middletons are going. Jack and Eddo may not even to add space for people who’ve known and loved him longer.
Well, to be fair, the Mids are more family that the Prime Minister, are they not?
@Gail Hirst – There is no rule or law that says one has to be fair to Ma Mid at any time for anything for any reason.
I read in The Spectator and The Independent that Boris said he is not going due to the space limitations.
I really doubt that the Middletons have been invited too. It’s just as possible to have fake W&K stories as it is to have fake H&M stories. The press are just throwing every thought that pops into their heads out their at the moment.
That’s why this is so offensive! The family in an of itself is very large, and Philip also had people close around him. As if the Midds need to be there.
If they’re there, and Penny Knatchbull isn’t…well, that will tell you something more about the family, won’t it.
I hope Penny is able to attend. She was the first person I thought of when I found out he passed away at Windsor Castle, with the queen by his side.
The Middleton PR has always been offensive – they have a long history of inserting themselves into Royal press coverage and aristo events. There was a funeral (I think) where Pippa parked herself in the front bench, smirking for the press who were there (apparently she was asked to move after it was taken). Then there was that wedding Kate went to when still a GF where she mugged for the camera’s – ending up taking attention away from the bride.
@Digital Unicorn, do you have links? I somehow missed these stories! The Middletons take chutzpah to a whole new level…
@bearcat – not to hand. For the Pips story I think it was for a memorial for the Straubenzee (sp) brother who died and for Kate not sure who’s wedding it was (all i remember was that she was wearing a brown outfit and was seen outside the venue mugging for the waiting cameras – which meant ALL the press about about Kate and not the bride).
Billy isn’t in charge of this funeral in any way whatsoever and Carole needs to cool it with the media aggrandizement. It’s gross to do this over a funeral. There are a ton of actual relatives that may not end up on the list of 30 people so there is no way that Carole is going to be there. The only Middleton going to that funeral is Kate.
They might make it so that the prominent royals may come and go so that more can come in? The middletons would the say not that they’re not important enough to stay but they are so gracious to leave so more can come for PP
The thing with the Middletons, if one goes they ALL turn up. You can’t invite one without the rest of them crashing the event to mug for all its worth.
Carole always over plays her hand, always. She does not know when to shut it and stop pushing.
Digital Unicorn, that’s why the original Anmer housekeeper and her husband quit after only five months. The Midds all moved in before Christmas that year, wouldn’t leave, playacted being royal, and the wife/husband staff duo peaced out.
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I don’t know what the UK rules are for outside gatherings, but if you look at the outline for the funeral on the RF website, there’s actually a large number of people involved in the outdoor portion of the ceremony, from the movement of Philip’s casket out of Windsor, to the individuals lining the route to St. George’s Chapel, to the reception of the casket at the church. Most, but not all of these are representatives of multiple branches of the military, including a couple of military bands.
Members of the family, along with staff from Philip’s household, will follow the casket. Maybe the 30 person limit is for the actual funeral service in the church, and since it’s unlikely that includes Philip’s staff, perhaps a group will be part of the outdoor procession only, and this will include the Middletons.
Ah I dunno if this is true, the Telegraph published a list of the likely attendees, there are only 30 currently allowed at UK funerals, so it will be family and close aides only. The Telegraph predicted that Kate Middleton and Mike Tindall would get an invite as they knew Philip for years, but Beatrice & Eugenies spouses wouldnt.
If it’s not true, doesn’t it look lame for there to be a story saying they will be there and then they’re not? Idk that’s kinda embarrassing.
Also, thanks Kaiser for bringing up this fact that there were no stories about William and Phillips relationship. I thought that weird but is it bc they just wana write about Harry or bc William didn’t have a good relationship w him.
At this point, I’m speculating about William’s relationships with the whole family. I figured the middletons are going cuz he needs people that like him there. Or Kate does? She’s prob mortified to see Harry after he and Meg went on tv and told the truth bout “the bridesmaid story”
Yes, I hadn’t thought about it before but there really aren’t loads of stories about the DoE and Wills. If what we think we know about both is true, I would assume that Philip couldn’t bloody stand William.
@jais I’m wondering about his relationship with the rest of the family too. It’s odd that nobody is mentioning William, the future king, and his relationship with Philip. There was no mention of how he’s holding up, or what were his thoughts immediately after his passing. Typically after every major event in the RF, KP always gives Will-Di Amin’s thoughts through sources, now it’s crickets. But there is a story about him needing the Middletons? Something is up.
We discussed this somewhat a few days ago, but I’m really starting to think that the reason William leans so heavily on the Middletons is because his own family can’t really stand him. If what we think about him is true – that he’s obsessed with control and power within in the family, that he thinks everything should revolve around him because he’s the FUTURE KING, etc – then he probably isn’t a lot of fun to be around and I can’t see him being a supportive cousin/friend. Factor in his laziness, and people like Anne probably don’t have time for him. I think both he and Harry are relatively close to Zara, but when you see him at family events like weddings, Trooping, etc – there doesnt seem to be a lot of interaction there.
And THEN factor in the stories about Kate being bitchy to the York sisters, and now we know that Eugenie and Harry are still on good terms, and it kind of makes sense if Kate isn’t well liked either (remember the post train snub from the queen!)
The thing is, given the diverging PR campaigns, and the increasingly clear rift between him and Kate, I think the dynamic is changing. I have no doubt William uses the Middletons— but I think that’s it. I don’t think he’s ever thought of himseling as relying on them, he uses them. There has always been a power imbalance in that dynamic and no matter how Carole might try to act as his mother/soother/emotional support syncophant, I think there will come a point where they grossly overreach and William will drop them.
William has changed. Something about him has really destabilized. I don’t know what it is about the interview that has made him go off the rails— I think Harry and Meghan’s interview touched on some deep emotional insecurity and he is lashing out like mad. Something about that interview has made him look weak in his own eyes and he is overcompensating to try to cover it up.
I can’t put my finger on it. Is it just the fact that Harry has left? I read in the comments here a while back that William used to bring underage Harry along to his parties and ply him with alcohol. I wonder if many components of William’s relationship with Harry were abusive when they were younger. It would explain some of the more disturbing elements of the Wootton article.
Idle speculation is idle.
Becks you perfectly articulated my thoughts. No one likes him… they may love him, but something has gone very wrong with William.
You know what I think irritated W&K the most about the Oprah interview? Pity. When Meghan related the Kate crying story and said “she’s a good person” it appeared that Meghan feels sorry for Kate. Likewise, when Harry said his brother is trapped, I sensed pity for his brother. And with an ego like W has, the idea that anyone pities him would be a gut punch in his fabulousness. How DARE they pity us? Everyone wants to be us (a la Miranda Priestly).
Maybe there is something to the Bolivian Marching Powder rumours. His temper, erraticism, and his I’m better than everyone attitude, are starting to remind me of a lot of the mannerisms long-term coke users have .
I think as the older royals get closer to the grave, William is becoming more of himself. Because he’s moving up the royal ladder, he is able to behave however he wants, and there’s less that anyone can do to stop him, or to make him want to stop. Power corrupts, and as each year goes by, William’s that much closer to the throne. He is behaving this way because he *can*.
Gabby, I agree with the “Kate is a good person” analysis. If anyone stopped to think about it, it adds fuel to the Rosebush fire. Why should Meghan feel so bad? And what was Kate upset about that would make even Meghan want to say something protective toward Kate? Maybe that she was cheated on….almost like Meghan was talking to William indirectly, trying to make him feel shame over it.
So they’re taking up 2 of the 30 allowed spots?!
Don’t leave out Pippa and James. Probably the whole Middleton clan will try to crash.
😂😂😂😂 Words fail me. Its max 30 people unless they are going stop direct blood family from attending….
Yeah I strongly doubt the middletons will be there.
My senses tell me the royals are actually not to found of the middletons. And I think that harry being one of their favorite grandchildren is actually a correct assessment. I also get the distinct feeling that some family members aren’t to happy with william and (to lesser extent) charels
No they are not fond of the Midds. They are tolerated. Anne is Philip’s favourite daughter and Harry his favourite grandchild. I read somewhere that Anne took exception to the Cambridges’ leaks a few years ago and told them so. I wish I could be a fly on the wall at the funeral.
If there wasn’t a pandemic, I could see the Midds seriously being there. But since it’s a limit of 30 people only, there’s no space for them anyway especially if the Queen’s cousins, Philip’s staff and Louis Mountbatten’s daughter/grandkids are being invited. William can throw a fit about it if he wants but BP will probably put their foot down and say “no”.
Sofia- MTA. Of course they’d be at the funeral if it was a normal crowd size. But it’s not.
If they do show up, it would be gross af because other, closer people to Philip would be denied. Which, given how poor the KP/Middleton PR has been, would actually be in line with their normal behavior. So I won’t say it’s totally out of the question.
But my guess? They are setting up a “William really needed the Middletons as his rock, but they all magnanimously sacrificed them coming” story.
@Rapunzel – yes, I think you’ve hit the nail on the head. This way they get two bites at the media cherry – the first is this one, the second is all about how self-sacrificing they are to have given up their places for other family members but how they will still be supporting ickle William behind the scenes. It’s like Carole’s promotion of her not promoting her Good Housekeeping article all over again.
Oh no pandemic? The Middletons would try to be as front and center as possible, absolutely.
Only his wife should be by his side. With only 30 people who can attend, how DARE he try to take 2 spots away from close friends and family who actually knew Philip well.
I agree. But to be fair, how many close friends of PP are left? The man was nearly 100.
Apart from Penelope Brabourne, and some of his god children, I would think that some of his staff would be invited before the Middletons given how small the funeral has to be. I’m sure the Middletons are probably over at Anmer right now though comforting poor William.
He does have dozens of godchildren though. And likely none will be able to go. This Middleton story is both gross and hilarious at the same time.
yes but the spouses of some of his grandchildren are being excluded when the grandchildren should be permitted to have their spouse to support them instead of William having his wife’s family there
I believe this cause it was also Pg 6 that broke Pippa Middleton’s second pregnancy.
Long before any other UK outlets.
I remember finding it odd a US publication(!!) was first to reveal the story about a very English family – esp one adjacent to our BRF.🤔🤔
Sure, Will asked Carole and Mike if they could attend…then BP will tell William that they cannot attend because Philip considered at least 30 other people who were more important to him in his life than those two.
‘But what if we could get another 30? Nope, sorry. They still don’t rank high enough.’
The Middletons know they aren’t coming but I believe they released this to Page Six so they could later claim “Oh, its the American press, what do they know!” in the event someone calls them on their b.s. Page Six won’t push back so they can continue to get “scoops”. *eye roll* It’s either that or the Middletons are trying to ” manifest” an invitation into being,, lol.
Could this be more obvious! Middleton pr machine in overdrive. Poor Bully Bill needs Carole’s maternal lap to lay his head in at the funeral is how it reads to me.
I view it as a bit more sinister. TOB needs the Middletons there to intimidate Harry and remind the press of who the FFK and FFQ are.
Yeah I kinda read it like that as well – Bully and his Top CEO need backup to deal with Harry. Harry is likely the ONLY person in the family who is not afraid of William and stands up to him.
That’s kind of how I read it, too, although it could just be Carole Middleton trying to big herself.
It still reads to me like hand-holding but I imagine Carole thinks it’s more than that.
Isn’t there a limit? So they’ll be there but some of philip’s actual family won’t??
Well, I just hope that Pennay can attend. As long as they make space for Penny all is good. Btw Carole needs to lay off the PR, it’s getting waaaaaaay too obvious.
Who is Penny? can someone fill me in please?
Penelope Knatchbull; a longtime friend and ‘companion’ of Prince Phillip. It’s said that she spent a lot of time with him at Wood Farm following his retirement.
There are only 30 guest permitted.
CONFIRMED: Queen, 4 children and 3 spouses. 8 grandchildren and their 4 spouses. In addition, Autumn Kelly will most likely be there too. Phillip’s private secretary is attending too. That’s 17 so far. Now add, the Mountbatten Relatives (including the enigmatic Countess Penny), remember there’s a lot of them….The estate staff who spent the most time with Phillip, the older remaining royals – The Kents (Prince Michael, Princess Michael, Prince Edward and probably Katherine), Princess Alexandra, The Gloucesters as well as Margaret’s 2 children too. I honestly don’t think there’s space for the Middletons no matter how much they want to be there to sneer at Harry….
Your math is off. It’s 22, not 17.
yes you’re right sorry! I have dyscalculia 🙂
Thank you for the opportunity to learn a new word, mimi. I really hope I didn’t insult you and I’m sorry if I did. It was truly unintentional. I was unfamiliar with the condition. It must make your life a living hell.
My problem with numbers is I can’t forget them. My ex has been dead for 10 years and I still know his SI#, along with his driver’s license number, ditto medical and library card numbers. I remember every phone number I’ve ever had, and every street address, after 12yo. I still remember the phone numbers of the businesses I patronized in a town I haven’t lived in for 20 years. I even remember the combination for the last padlock I used in grade 12. If I worked in the local bank, I would know every single person’s bank account numbers off by heart. I would have sooo many numbers in my head. For the record, I’m lousy with math, really bad, always have been. Working in a bank would be a nightmare for two reasons.
Real question — do we really think they are going to allow ‘estate staff’ over family members with a cap on attendance? My guess is they go with ‘private goodbyes’ for staff members. As someone said above, at age 99 how many friends/peers does he possibly still have that are alive and how many of his living ‘family’ have ever actually met him.
Now what will be interesting is if the alleged long term mistress gets to attend.
IMPO, Prince Phillip would want the “estate staff” of Wood Farm there.
Penny is a Mountbatten who is close to both Charles and the Queen. My bet is that she will be there with Lady Pamela Hicks
If all the family members who the BRF wants to come have been invited and there’s still space left over, it’s not dumb to assume that estate staff (particularly those who have been there for years) are invited.
But the family is large enough so there may not be space.
A number of people not included in the 30 will be part of the procession to the chapel as per the RF website. This includes multiple military representatives, as well as “staff from His Royal Highness’s Household”.
He kept in contact with many of his extended family in Europe. Several were often at larger family events just no one pays attention. But we was quite close to many nieces/nephews and great-nieces and nephews.
Not true page six! The RF website has published the names and apart from the family (which excludes Bea and Eugenie’s husbands) only Philip’s private secretary will attend given the limit of 30.
If I were Bea and Eugenie and my husband couldn’t attend but the Middletons could, I would pitch a fit.
Mids are not attending..its Page 6 make believe. Even the PM gave up his seat so Philip’s long term associates/cousins can attend.
There was actually some idiot on Twitter saying Harry shouldn’t go so that the PM could attend. Some of these people are tediously stupid, as if Boris likely knew Phil at all.
I looked at the royal family website (royal.uk) and couldn’t find a list of attendees. Link, please?
If Baldymort rolls up with the Middleton gang at his grampy’s funeral, it will be so ridiculous. Is he *that* scared of Harry that he needs Ma Middleton to hold his hand?
Maybe Carole will hold his head in her lap and feed him cheese toast out of her purse?
Or they’ll be snapping their fingers, wearing black leather jackets and have switchblades in their back pockets a la West Side story.
Or they’ll be snapping their fingers, wearing black leather jackets and have switchblades in their back pockets a la West Side story.
Bullies are always scared when their victims stand up to them. I get being stood up to by Harry, Meghan and Ophra was a lot for poor Will. Still, Ma Middleton should shove the shamelessness back a bit and stay at home with the cheese toast and special binki at ready when he gets home. They are so ridiculous.
Carole is just the MIL of Philip’s second grandson. FFK or not, this isn’t the day to promote Carole.
Carole works harder than Kris Jenner at generating PR for herself and her daughters. She probably is hoping if she throws this out there she may be tossed an invite. Lol
Honestly, she’s making Kris Jenner look good. Kris would never be so obvious and ham fisted.
This is true. Kris has Klass compared to Carole.
Carole is really gunning for that Queen Mum spot, I’m sure. I’ll bet money that Will-di Amin has lined up the middletons for a peerage when he reaches the throne. My guess will be an earldom. Ma Midds probably practices responding to “Countess” and “My Lady” in the mirror. Brother James would be a Lord (if not a secondary title like a viscount or baron) and Pips would be a Lady. Lawd, the Middletons would be worse that a passel of newly-minted reality tv stars, acting up and throwing money around trying to “look fancy.” I pity anyone who crosses their paths on the day they get ennobled. They’re going to give new meaning to “plus royale que loi”
Assuming Kate manages to keep her position, which looks increasingly precarious given the PR.
They are the 21st century Woodvilles.
Agree they are totally the Woodvilles!
Oh yes – when Baldy takes the throne those family balcony appearances will be him, Top CEO the kids and then the Middletons taking up the rest of the space.
Uncle Gary told the press years ago he was promised rooms in BP.
She wants her whole family to BE the next RF and she’s been setting this up for years. And yeah, not going to happen as that marriage won’t make it that far.
“Crude, thinks she’s a lady”. Aerosmith could rewrite their song for Ma middleton
And its weird because Carole is mostly likely going to be OLD when Kate becomes Queen consort. Like she’s what now, 65? 68? They’re waiting for a 95 year old woman to pass and then for a 72 year old to pass, whose father just died at 99 and whose mother is the aforementioned 95 year old. There could be a solid 25 years before Will is king.
I just googled, Carole was born in 1955 so she’s 66, so she’ll most likely be in her mid 80s, maybe even 90 when Kate gets on the throne. tHat’s really playing a long game.
My goodness why doesn’t Carole just kick back and enjoy her life, her husband, her grandkids and her grow operation? Hike, travel, paint.
So true. I’ve read somewhere that the next after Windsors will be Middletons.
And they can tbh. Charles can’t do anything to stop them.
If Charles live to be the same age as his father then Willie won’t be king until 2048. Carole will be in her 90s. What’s the point of it, all that hustle? I think Carole has had these milestones in her head. Like she thought everything would be different after Kate got married, that she could finally act like the queen mum, get the respect she desires from the aristocracy and that Kate would be the new Diana, the most famous woman in the world. But it never happened. Then she probably thought it would happen when George was born. But it didn’t. Now she’s holding on for when Kate is queen. She really wants to live at BP, but probably wouldn’t even be allowed to anyway. Didn’t she try to move into KP but got blocked? I think Carole needs to let it go, all this royal hustle has probably caused more harm than good.
I think Pippatips’ husband is set to inherit a title when his father dies so it’s Ma, Pa and grifter James who’ll be wanting titles.
It is a purchased title, which is laughed at by everyone in the aristocracy.
@notasugarhere Even once the’ll have given one (by wills) the’ll be laughed at be aristocracy anyways.
Baldemort will not be granting a title/ hereditary peerage to any non-royal born person. The last non-royal hereditary peerage was created in 1984 for Maurice Harold Macmillan, 1st Earl of Stockton, a FORMER PRIME MINISTER.
Ma and Pa Kettle aka Carole & Mike Middleton do not stand a chance of getting any type of title.
I think Pippatips’ husband is set to inherit a title when his father dies so it’s Ma, Pa and grifter James who’ll be wanting titles.
That assumes Ma and Pa Middleton outlive Charles. The Windsors have longevity in their genes and isn’t Carol a smoker? What makes Carol thinks she’ll be around?
Spot on, Ianne. I said this very thing on one of last week’s articles. Then they’ll be truly formidable.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he gave them some seriously rockin’ titles or even created Middleton-Windsor as the family name going forward.
When did the Middletons start running to Page Six all the time? Is this a way to try to get the pro-Middleton narrative out in the US? Is People not taking Carole’s calls anymore? Because funeral attendance* aside, this piece is hilarious – “surrounded by goodness” like what on earth lol. Tone it down Carole. Obvious PR is obvious. And I dont think the way to Prince Charles’ heart is to constantly push the story that your family is the best.
*I doubt they will be there, but its obvious that someone wants people to think they SHOULD be there.
Page Six probably got that story for its sister paper, the Sun
I also think it’s weird where they mention that Carole and Michael are actually quite good friends with Charles and Camilla. Really?! They’re pushing that now? I know W tried to play up a “better” relationship with Charles once H&M were said to be friendly with them, and then the whole “we’re in this together” post-Harry thing, but they couldn’t even hold up that pretense very well. Now we are expected to believe C&C are chumming it up with the Midds?
Yes-that was the funniest thing of the whole bit. Would I believe that William would push off the Queen’s cousins and friends for the Middletons to have spots? Absolutely. Are Carole and Mike “close” to Charles and Camilla? Bwahahahahaha. No f-ing way. Being civil and polite and making chit chat are not being close friends.
Carole is overdoing it. This is crass. With a 30 person limit the Middletons are too irrelevant to Philip’s close friends and family to be invited. Especially if it looks like Beatrice and Eugenie’s husbands won’t be able to attend.
I also think this was sent to page six because even the sun was embarrassed to print this and they figured an American publication wouldn’t pick up on the crassness right away.
+1
This got me thinking: what would have endeared the Middletons to Charles?
I came up with: getting William and Kate to work and getting involved in charity. That’s it. That’s all they would have had to do. Charles seems like the kind of person who would get along with in laws generally as it’s the polite thing to do.
Surrounded by goodness made me snort my coffee. How very crass of me. I am obviously not surrounded by gentle goodness as I eat my breakfast
1. Queen
2. Charles
3. Camilla
4. William
5. Kate
6. Harry
7. Anne
8. Timothy
9. Zara
10. Peter
11. Andrew
12. Bea
13. Bea husband
14. Eugenie
15. Eugenie husband
16. Edward
17. Sophie
18. Louise
19. James
20. Mike Tindall (I forgot him)
That’s 20 spots just for the most immediate family and their spouses, and I did not even include the small great grandchildren. Plus there are the outer members like the Kents that would likely be invited. I don’t see how the Midds could squeeze in there. Carole is just going to have to perch herself in a tree somewhere with some binoculars.
The great grandchildren won’t be going but the Queen’s (and his) cousins, i.e. Duke of Kent etc will probably be there.
Is Autumn attending? I could see her attending just because she and Peter were married for a while and I imagine she had a great deal of interactions with Philip especially 10ish years ago. I think someone said that Beatrice and Eugenie’s husbands aren’t attending because they didnt know Philip really. If that’s true – that grandsons-in-law of Philip aren’t attending to save space – then no way in hell are the Middletons going.
Autumn I was not too sure about. Based on what you said about the York husbands, I definitely don’t see how it would look right for any of the Middletons to claim a spot. If they do, and I was Beatrice or Eugenie, I would be pretty offended.
I also left off PENNY!
As they grew up with Prince Philip and he is their only maternal uncle, I see Lady Sarah and the Earl of Snowdon attending if there is any extra space before Ma & Pa Middleton.
@BTB, I completely forgot about Lady Sarah and EOS! You’re so right.
Maybe George would be there too since he’s an heir. Surely Kate Guevara wants that picture.
EXACTLY! This +100!
Others I expect to be there? His niece and nephew, Snowdon and Lady Sarah. Duke and Duchess of Gloucester, Duke and Duchess of Kent, Prince Michael (if not Princess Michael), Princess Alexandra.
Yep. See, I was leaving all kinds of people out. Too bad, so sad Carole.
@NOTA I would laugh my head off if Princess Pushy(Michael) is told she cannot attend.
Lady Sarah?
Viscount Linley?
Linley is now Snowden. But yes since they are the son and daughter of the Queen’s only sibling, they have a right to be there over an overzealous mother of a granddaughter in law.
Like the Kent family, Lady Pamela Hicks will be there if any non-members of the immediate family attend as she is a cousin of both QEII and Philip.
Well if the family objects to it, then say something. If you don’t want to say anything then sit down. This family 🙄
I don’t think the Middletons will be there but I’m sure that their PR put out this little tidbit.
Sure Jan – I mean Carol
So page six broke the news about Pippa’s pregnancy? And they knew before everybody else…hmmm.
Even if they are not invated and don’t show, using Philip’s death for PR (don’t forget that Carole’s story while Philip was in hospital) and to show how much the petty royal family cares for the Middletons is just…blah. Disgusting. Such effing wannabes.
I am sure that Philip did not care about them and he could see right through their b*llshit. That goes about the Queen, Charles and Camilla. Don’t get me wrong I am not saying that they are saints, but they are smart enought to know that the Middletons are leaching from them.
Weeeelll – it’s on brand for Carole/the Cambridges. This would make it the third dead person in less than two months that they’ve exploited for PR.
So true.
There must be something in that special Middleton blood, that makes them want to exploit dead people for their own pr. They are all the same.
Yeah, that must be something special is vampire blood
Even if this was a *normal* family…why would a grandchild’s in laws attend? LMAO Carole…you tried it!
Since the Middletons feel the need to put out this type of PR, it makes me wonder if they are even as close to William as they claim. What’s the point? If Will is close to them, then eventually when he is king they will get their reward (titles, or whatever they are aiming for). Is the point just to make it look okay when he does title them? Do they think at that point they will be like part of the royalty and they have to justify beforehand? Do they see it as some sort of way to keep him from dumping Kate? It doesn’t make sense.
I have never bought that William was close to the middletons, or that Carole was his surrogate mother. He might have been close to them back in their early dating years, but he knows exactly what they are like and they only give af about him cos he’s the future king. Also if he can’t stand kate, then why on earth would he give af about her family?
This is why is so infuriating to hear Meghan described as a social climber. Every last one of the Middletons never misses the opportunity to remind us who Kate married.
Go sit the hell down.
Exactly this. Tacky and gross.
That group photo is hilarious. Look at Mrs. Middleton, standing next to Charles instead of her own husband. Just weird.
I think the brothers should put on a show and give each other a big bear hug in front of the British Royal media to shut everyone up about their issues and then they can continue to squabble behind the scenes. Otherwise I can see Harry being like eff you all I am opening the flood gates and will take down the Royal family in the process… I say this even though I am team Harry. I am just tired of hearing about that douche canoe William.
That would hurt his image because what was the point of the interview then ? Because the British media is not going to be kinder to Meghan after that even if KP stop leaking and briefing against her.
Peter was the favourite grandson so maybe Autumn might get an invite but i think she will be home woth the kids.
And folks actually believe this?
Papers do make things up without any help from “insiders.”
Only the silly ones.
Just one more story, this time from Middleton Central, describing a weak, spineless, emotionally unhinged William. “He needs us, poor lamb!” “He can’t face the funeral of his 99-year-old grandfather without us!”
If true, William is deeply troubled, An adult being unable to face the death of a very old, very sick person is not healthy. It also speaks ill of Kate when she’s not the one William goes to for comfort.
If it is a lie, the Middleton’s use of the Queen’s dead husband to make themselves look good is a scandal.
I think we’ll soon be hearing how Carole has totally been invited, but she is “selflessly declining” her very real invitation in favour of Phillip’s elderly cousins because she is such a true patriot, or something.
This seems like one of those trial balloons, like the peerage for the Middletons. I don’t see it happening. Everything has been planned for the funeral, adjusted for the pandemic. I don’t see the Middletons being invited, when there are other more important people in Phillip’s life that should attend.
The Middletons are as common as cockroaches, and twice as hard to get rid of–definitely not the sort Phillip would spend a moment’s time with, regardless of Carole’s clumsy machinations.
Funeral services are really for the living. We’ll see what queen granny says.
Lol, indeed. Alizee needs to bounce out of this mess before James has trapped her & Carole confiscates her passport.
Kate does NOT want to go to this funeral without her Mommy! Can you imagine? Harry is going to be the focal point of the inter-family social dynamics. I can imagine Eugenie, Beatrice, Zara and Mike T. all huddled around Harry and jockeying to sit next to Harry at the reception or whatever meal they have afterward and Kate standing awkwardly apart from everyone because she’s persona non grata where Harry is concerned.
Remember Harry’s death glare at the Commonwealth service? You know he’s going to be aiming that at Kate the whole time and she is not going to be able to hide behind her guffawing at this event. Remember how the Queen snubbed Kate at the ChooChoo Finale? I think this is our clue as to how ostracized Kate is when the whole family is together and Kate does not have her children to hide behind. I bet you Kate is pressuring Will to get her parents an invite so she doesn’t have to endure the entire day with just William as her only companion. But if not, look for Kate to be delegated to being best friends with Lady Louise that day out of social desperation.
I can see that re: Louise. And Pimp Mama Middleton will sell it as yet another example of how much of a rock Kate is to that institution, comforting young Louise in her grief, leaning on Kate as she becomes a leader in the royal family and they can’t function without her “quiet” leadership and strength. You saw it here first.
Louise will have her parents and probably also her brother with her. The Wessex family have come to the fore in recent days. Sophie is clearly very close to the Queen and may have been at the bedside with her when Philip passed away.
I have the impression that the grandchildren have been told to take a back seat and say nothing until after Charles, Anne, Andrew and Edward had given their tributes. Charles is clearly taking the lead and the focus is on the Duke’s widow and children. Harry was criticised for that simple and impersonal initial announcement on the Archewell website but it seems this was the advice from the Palace. Personal statements from the grandchildren come after those from the children.
We may not see Louise and James at this. Yes they are grandchildren, but numbers are limited and Sophie/Edward limit especially James’s public exposure.
Can you imagine if this was Doria? These folks are the worst at pushing to the front. We see where Keen gets it from.
HM and the courtiers needs to stand up to Wee Willy Bully Boy and just say NO.
For the midds to actually attend that funeral knowing that they are not in anyway close to Philip or the queen would be beyond tacky, however future future queen mom Carole is nothing if not tacky.
I bet any photos of William near the Middletons will be used next to photos of Harry alone, with some story about “Wow look how William is surrounded by his loved ones, and Harry is just left alone, Meghan was too selfish to come” or something, while Meghan is busy being pregnant and not traveling during an ongoing pandemic.
Why not?
Doesn’t he call Mike Middleton “Pa”?
Can he be a bit more douchier?
Philip probably didn’t even know the Midd’s first names, they shouldn’t even go if an unlimited guest list.
If they had class they would make a dontation to one of his causes – which I believe is the request instead of flowers – but I am too lazy to go back and look up.
That’s terrible that they are only allowed 30 guests, the prime minister isn’t going to save room for family, and they want the MIDDLETONs to come? Ridiculous
According to The Telegraph, these are the likely attendees:
1. The Queen
2 Prince of Wales
3 Duchess of Cornwall
4 Princess Royal
5 Vice-Admiral Sir Timothy Laurence
6 Duke of York
7,8 Earl and Countess of Wessex
9,10 Duke and Duchess of Cambridge
11 Duke of Sussex
12,13 Zara and Mike Tindall
14 Peter Phillips
15 Princess Beatrice
16 Princess Eugenie
17 Lady Louise Windsor
18 Viscount Severn
19 Lady Pamela Hicks
20 Countess Mountbatten
21 Princess Alexandra
22,23 Duke and Duchess of Gloucester
24,25 Duke and Duchess of Kent
26,27 Prince and Princess Michael of Kent
28 Earl of Snowdon
29 Lady Sarah Chatto
30 Brigadier Archie Miller-Bakewell, private secretary
Those attendees all make perfect sense, and when you see that list, you realize how ludicrous even the suggestion that the Middletons would be included is. There are no representatives from his charities, no political figures, etc. I mean obviously there isnt going to be bc of the 30 person restriction, but my point is that you see how fast that 30 limit filled up with just pretty much his close family.
@anotherlily – I put my money on your list.
I guess Penny has been exiled somewhere.
Penny Knatchbull is The Countess Mountbatten.
30 seats fills up fast, especially with spouses. As I said, sounds like a tester to see if Carole could snag a seat at the funeral. Glad to see she can’t.
Yep that makes sense. I wonder if Ma midds is looking at that list seeing all the titled people on there, and realising how much of a d*ck she looks by trying to leak that she was going?
She looks like a joke for even trying.
Yup, that all sounds about right.
Looks like a pretty good list, but I’ll be surprised if James is there. Doesn’t look like he was at regular Sunday service, when Edward and Sophie gave their statements. Louise was, James wasn’t.
Agreed. No Vicount. That number 30 spot goes to the Archbishop.
Philip was his grandfather. He will be there.
Philip was his grandfather, but he is kept out of the public eye. He didn’t attend church with his family this Sunday, as a way to keep reporters and cameras away from him. He might attend, he might not, depending on what his parents think best.
It’s been confirmed that three German relatives will be there so probably no Mike Tindall, possibly no Tim Laurence (and perhaps no Duchess of Cambridge?)
Sorry there’s just no f*cking way. If it was under normal circumstances then yeah, but with only 30 people allowed, there’s no f*cking way. Even if the max number was 100, the middletons still wouldn’t be in it, if we are looking at people close to Phillip. If you add the queen, their children, grandchildren and all their partners, were already onto the 20s. That just leaves a few spots for close friends.
It would be absolutely disrespectful to Phillip to include the middletons, thus not allowing anyone he was actually friends with or anyone from the Mountbatten side of his family.
If the middletons do turn up, then something is going down. Either the middletons have something over them and demanded to go (which is weird cos what power do they have?), or Willie believes it’s all about him and keen and he should be top priority to rehab their image.
I dunno, but from this page six article, the middletons seem pretty certain they think they are going. Or they may just be bullsh*tting. Anyway it looks like those middletons are pro’s when it comes to exploiting the dead.
I would think Charles and the Queen would not care what the Middletons have over Billy. Charles in particular does not like that family.
Middleton really is the perfect moniker, no? They are so average and soo trying to prove otherwise. The only thing any of them has excelled at is social climbing. Legendary social climbing, which frankly makes William look like a mark.
The Midds are funeral crashers now? They are just like the Markles; the only differences are nationality and social standing.
From now on I will refer to the Midds as Ma & Pa Kettle.
For this reason this made me burst out laughing! 😀
First of all, I’ll believe it when I see it, but second of all, I do not think this will be limited for 30 people. Rules are for peasants and he was the husband of the Queen of England. They’re gonna have whoever they want there. I still don’t think the Middletons will be there, and I think this is Carole’s way of getting ahead of that with a “but William WANTED me to be there” story.
Oh and I loved “The Royals” with Liz Hurley! I hate that it got canceled because the director was a dirtbag, I really liked where the story was going at the end of the last season.
Baldemort sure is scared of PH.
Will has a WEAK character and needs everyone on board hyping his non-existent greatness. The media, government, Middletons , it is fascinating to read.
The media and government are practically BEGGING Harry to reconcile with Will.
How true is this because I’m reading that with Covid restrictions the gathering is limited to 30? With the entire Windsor clan, other extended family across Europe, and members of peerage, aristocracy, and government, WHY would William get to decide that the Middletons can take up space?
The Middletons remain tacky as well. Did the Spencer’s ever act like this? I seem to think they didn’t.
Nic919. Spencers were part of the aristocracy. Diana’s father was equerry to both George VI and QEII. Diana’s maternal grandmother, Lady Fermoy, was lady in waiting to Queen Mother. They were already ‘in’ and didn’t have to claw their way.
They did, but in an entirely different way that is specific to their status. But the Spencers had always been hella thirsty from the get go, with tons of family pride to go on top of that when it suited them. They keep it low key compared to the Middletons, but I remember Diana’s father giving a super cringe interview talking about how he is so proud of his daughter marrying Charles, and that he considers his daughter’s marriage into the RF as one of his biggest acts of service to the Queen. That is pretty cringe in a wholly different way, but it’s still cringe.
All of the aristocratic families, up until Diana divorced, plot and scheme to place themselves higher up in the pecking order, and anyone who says they don’t is fooling the crowd. Louis Mountbatten was Philip’s stage parent before Carole was a twinkle in anyone’s eye. Everything he did was the definition of thirsty–he tried to get the RF to change their last name to his, for crying out loud. Queen Mary, Elizabeth’s grandmother, was also from the poorer relations, with a perennially thirsty mother with a spending habit that they were on the run from creditors from.
Social climbing is the norm for these people, particularly aristocrats, who always want to get to a place above their own station in life. What’s different when the aristocrats do it is that, while they offer the token insistence that they don’t see class, that they are just an ordinary family blah blah blah, they don’t care if anyone believes it or not. It’s just lip service. The Middletons tried to capitalize on the idea that they are different from that set, to wedge their way in. It’s that discrepancy that people can’t stand, tbh.
This is such a sidebar but when reporters call Will “the heir to the throne” I always want to cringe. Charles is the heir to the throne; William is *his* heir, second in line. For a nation so obsessed with medieval hierarchical protocols, they sure love to vault ahead of themselves when it suits them.
Also when they refer to Will as the future king, while that will probably be the case of course, it’s getting way ahead of things as they are. How arrogant and insensitive do you have to be to want to be described as “the future king” when your father and grandmother are BOTH still alive? They are elderly, yes, but very much present. I’m assuming Will or his team are briefing these reporters … but who knows.
This is just one more article to the mountain telling us how William cannot function as an adult. He desperately clings to Carole like a toddler and she indulges.
It also sounds like another of many where the Middleton family is trying to insert themselves into more royal life. And Will is too stupid or naive to see how bad this is for the monarchy and him.
When the press turns on the Midds (and they will) this will be a marker.
“William and Catherine are surrounded by goodness, they have the Middletons, Carole and Mike, Pippa and her husband, James, and James Middleton and his fiancée, Alizee. They’re such a grounded, happy family.”
Excuse me while I go vomit please.
Also, loving the detail where they had to NAME EACH AND EVERY MIDDLETON SPECIFICALLY. As if we don’t all know who they mean when they say “Middletons.” No no, we have to get the names too, to make sure that everyone knows that William and Kate have all of these exact SIX PEOPLE at hand to be there for their support. No one else ya’ll. Just those six people. And remember, all of the Middletons, including Carole, Mike, Pippa, her husband terribly moderately wealthy James Matthews, James Middleton and his fiance Alizee, are such a grounded happy family. Just in case you didn’t get that memo about Carole, Mike, Pippa, her husband terribly moderately wealthy James Matthews, James Middleton (who is related to Mike and Carole Middleton) and his fiancee Alizee.
That Midas it obvious it comes from Carole. I would bet money William has not even met the fiancé much less be able to spell her name.
Nobody would write/provide such sickeningly syrupy drivel other than Carole. Obvious is obvious.
I know I may be late in posting this but it has been my experience over the years if anyone says or professes to be oh so “good”, usual the oppose it true.
I hope Harry gives Will the cold shoulder, doesn’t give Will the satisfaction of snubbing him. No, he doesn’t have to clown but he can show that he’s the better man
Oh my god, Boy Middleton’s fiancée is named Alizee? Like the drink. Like the 2Pac song. It’s getting so absurd, even for those Middlelings.
ITA. I wrote a similar comment on the Wootton thread. Wasted sometime reading some of Wootton’s past articles instead of cleaning. DW writes as if Wil is the future king and not Charles. It’s very odd. On the same thread there were comments comparing Wootton’s devotion to Will to Eminem’s Stan. I agree with a couple of exceptions. Eminem didn’t really encourage and embrace his stalker fan/s (he did have problems with some) like Will does with Wootton. Eminem didn’t need someone to embiggen himself-he worked and didn’t pander to his sycophants like Will does.
If somehow Crazy Cheerleader Mom Carole is at the funeral it’s because through some sort of mental gymnastics Will & Kate convinced Charles to allow her to be there. Not William’s or Kate’s place to invite.
At all. The fact that Page Six even wrote about this is embarrasing. Now is the time for Charles to say no-thank you for asking.
My petty/catty self loves that the grimacing photo of Ma Middleton is included in the posts about her. The stories of Will’s head in her lap are so wrong. My husband loved my Mom(she passed away) who was a genuine, authentic, loving and caring person(like Meghan’s Mom), but, if he were to ever put his head on her lap(and he did not), it would have freaked me out and look at him strangely. I’m beginning to wonder though….whose lap does Will lay/lie his head on more, Carole’s or Wootton’s?
My comment at 58 was in response to Elizabeth’s at 52. If that makes any sense.
Carole needs to learn the true hierarchy of the BRF. William isn’t the head of family. No matter how much he tries to convince otherwise.
For everyone that’s talking about Penny, Penny Knatchbull, didn’t she pass away 4 years or so ago?
I’m always in wonder of people who take the time to comment something that is so easily looked up on Google with same or less amount of text characters:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penelope_Knatchbull,_Countess_Mountbatten_of_Burma
If you’re referring as to why I didn’t look it up, I did and wasn’t completely sure if it was the same penny multiple people had referenced. Hence why I was asking.
I am sure this story is just more made up rubbish like a lot of if about the RF among many other things
TOB has cowardly backstabbed Harry and his wife for years and now needs to hide behind his MIL skirt when they come face to face. What a chickensh!t.