Levin: Prince Harry has 16 bathrooms, how dare he speak about mental health

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It’s as predictable as shenanigans from Lindsay Lohan: the British press will always find a way to attack the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, no matter what. I knew that Prince Harry’s Armchair Expert interview would make headlines on Salty White Folk Isle but I was in the dark about what part of the interview they would attack. Would it be the part where Harry spoke about his supermarket date with Meghan? Would it be the part where he spoke about his youthful feelings about therapy? No and no. The part they’re attacking is the part where Harry speaks about being born in a position of enormous privilege but still being unfulfilled and unhappy, and understanding that he doesn’t have to live in the privileged, gilded cage in which he was born for his entire life. The royal commentators are screaming because… Harry lives in a nice house in Montecito. My God.

Harry said of privilege: ‘I truly believe you can move along the spectrum as well, wherever you were born you may start in one place but that will change over time’. He told Dax Shepard’s ‘Armchair Expert’ show that the couple tried to stay ‘incognito’ during his wife’s first trip to stay with him in London in 2016, where he lived at Kensington Palace, texting items for their shopping list from across food aisles. Harry also compared his life as a mixture of The Truman Show – when Jim Carrey’s character discovers his life is a TV show – and being an animal at the zoo.

But royal author Angela Levin, who wrote 2018 book Harry: Conversations with the Prince, tweeted this afternoon: ‘Harry’s the victim again on Dax Shepard’s podcast. Reveals he and Meg pretended not to know each other in a supermarket and that although he was born into privilege now believes “you may start in one place but you can change in time”. So his 16-bathroom home isn’t privilege.’

Ms Levin was referring to the couple’s £11million mansion in Montecito, California, where they have been living since last summer as after stepping down as senior royals at the start of last year.

During the podcast, the Duke also said: ‘If Oprah is at one end, I am on the other based on my privilege and upbringing. And Oprah’s at the opposite end, then every single one of us is somewhere along there. By the way I truly believe you can move along the spectrum as well – wherever you were born you may start in one place but that will change overtime.’

When asked if he felt ‘in a cage’ while in royal duties, he said: ‘It’s the job right? Grin and bear it. Get on with it. I was in my early twenties and I was thinking I don’t want this job, I don’t want to be here. I don’t want to be doing this. Look what it did to my mum, how am I ever going to settle down and have a wife and family when I know it’s going to happen again. I’ve seen behind the curtain, I’ve seen the business model and seen how this whole thing works and I don’t want to be part of this’, before revealing he had therapy after meeting Meghan, which ‘burst’ a bubble and he decided to ‘stop complaining’.

[From The Daily Mail]

I’ll be honest, for many years, both Harry and William were full of self-pity about the gilded cage in which they were born. They both came across as kind of self-absorbed and whiney. But at some point they did diverge: William stopped bitching about how he just wanted a normal bloke life in the country, which happened around the same time that Harry and Meghan began dating. Harry also stopped complaining and began to realize what his life could be, while William began focusing on his lazy Future King role. As for Levin’s criticism… like, it doesn’t even make any sense within the context of the interview. Harry didn’t claim to have zero privilege now, so why the obsessive, unhinged remark about the cost of his home? I guess Levin is under the impression that the Windsors live in tiny one-bedroom apartments?

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  1. Cecilia says:

    This levin woman……….. forever acting like a bitter ex girlfriend.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      Levin is worse than Sarah Vine and I did not think it was possible to be worse than Sarah Vine. I think Levin is working hard to surpass Lady Colin Campbell to gain the title of “Number 1 Sussex Hate Monger”.

    • PEARL GREY says:

      If Harry can’t speak about mental health because he has privilege, then technically none of us can speak, because there’s always going to be someone who has less than the next person. The idea that having privilege or material possessions somehow should make one impervious to mental illness or emotional suffering needs to end. Life affects us all, or wealthy people wouldn’t commit suicide because their mansions surely would have made it all better. I’m sure people like Robin Williams, Kurt Cobain, Chester Bennington, Chris Cornell, Mary Kay Bergman and countless others should have just counted their cash anytime they felt the urge to take their own lives and they’d still be here. I suppose Angela has a problem with mental health crusaders Will and Kate too then, since they live in not one but two sprawling homes that they didn’t work to pay for, and I’m pretty sure they aren’t running low on bathrooms. No? Ok then.

      • Lyds says:

        Totally. Reminds me of the time when they were complaining about Meghan answering truthfully to the question, “Are you okay?” The press thought it was astonishing that she could answer that way after a trip of meeting with impoverished people.

        As if seeing people suffering should solve all your life problems. I get how it puts certain things in perspectives (counting your blessings, whatnot) but a problem doesn’t solve itself when viewed relatively to a separate problem. In Meghan’s case, you can do your best to support the cause at hand, but all the problems with the palace are still waiting for your upon your flight home.

      • Christine says:

        Absolutely, and it actually means more, to me, as an ordinary person, that someone who was born into (the absolutely false narrative of) privilege also couldn’t make a go of it, even though an entire Schitt ton of people would like to be in that position.

        I get why I have struggled with anxiety and depression, of course, it’s my life and easily understood by me. I get why other people have as well. People like Harry talking about it helps me understand that it is something so many of us struggle with, no matter what other people think is our level of basic luck. I was adopted by an upper middle class family, parents in academia, and my life, for the most part, looks and feels pretty charmed.

        If I had a passel of disgruntled media following me, I am certain they would be calling out my privilege, although 2 bathrooms would surely seem like abject poverty to them!

    • PrincessK says:

      Levin is one of the worst royal leeches, she will be forever sucking blood. What else does she do? Harry must rue the day he allowed himself to speak to this awful woman who appears like a sweet granny but is the very opposite.

      I am so irritated every time I hear her referred to as Harry’s biographer, when she is actually one of Harry’s chief tormentors.

      Interestingly, she wrote a confession article in the Daily Mail about her cruel and horrid mother ( check it out https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4262328/ANGELA-LEVIN-mother-cruel-horrid-woman.html) Well I would say that the apple hasn’t fallen far from the tree.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        @PrincessK, you would think that Angela Levin would be the last person to whine about Harry talking about mental health/family dynamics after reading her story. Regardless of the number of bathrooms his home has-which is just a dumb thing to even mention. After reading a number of reviews about her book, I suspect that she really never got anything from Harry. That she proclaimed herself his biographer . A lot of reviews say how you don’t learn anything new about him and the book reads like a collection of tabloid stories put together. With his understandable aversion too rr’s/BM that just makes more sense. As mentioned in comments on different threads here, the rr’s/BM are simply mad that Harry won’t grant access or give interviews to them or anyone else entrenched with the Firm.

  2. Elizabeth Regina says:

    I know that cows have got to moo but Angela is a vile and unhinged woman. Maybe her own mother was right about her.

    • Cecilia says:

      She truly should start reflecting on HER childhood trauma because it seems like its still very much haunting her

    • swirlmamad says:

      “Cows have got to moo” = LMAOOOO

    • Liz version 700 says:

      Cows have got to moo is my going in my top 5 favorite phrases 🤣🤣🤣

    • MerlinsMom1018 says:

      @Elizabeth Regina
      With your kind permission I am going to blatantly steal your “cows have got to moo” phrase.
      Also I laughed so long and hard and loud that MerlinsDad came out and checked on me
      *chef’s kiss*

    • Elizabeth Phillips says:

      Cows have got to moo! Dying!

  3. betsyh says:

    FFS! The bathrooms again!

    • Ginger says:

      It’s so annoying. Harry and Meghan didn’t design the damn house. That’s all the press have; the number of bathrooms. It’s pathetic.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      I hope the Royals Rats at the Daily Mail choke on this.

      Let us count the bathrooms:

      Master Bedroom – His & Her Bathrooms (2)
      en Suite Bedrooms – 6 bedrooms – 6 Bathrooms (6)
      Service Residential Quarters – 1 bedroom – 1 Bathroom (1)
      Guest House – 1 bedroom – 1 Bathroom (1)
      First Floor Powder Room – 1 Bathroom or toilet (1)
      Second Floor Powder Room – 1 Bathroom or toilet (1)
      Pool House – 1 Bathroom (1)
      Gardner’s Shed and/or Garage – Utility Bathroom (1)
      Domestic Service Work Area – 1 Bathroom possibly two Bathrooms (2)

      I have a count of 16 bathrooms which is on the low side for a Florida Estate home at the same price point.

      Please add or substract as one sees fit. I am assuming that a bedroom is used as Archie’s nursey. If there is a separate nursey add 1 more bathroom. Most guest houses at an estate at this price point in Florida have 1.5 to 2 bathrooms.

  4. Emily says:

    How many bathrooms do the Keens have?

    • Wiglet Watcher says:

      Depends. Which palace on which estate are we talking about? Let’s exclude the bathrooms on their private forms of transportation.

    • HK9 says:

      Exactly.

    • Mac says:

      The royal reports are so mad Harry and Meghan don’t live in a one room shack with no running water or electricity.

      • lucy2 says:

        They really are. The fixation on the house is downright bizarre.
        They are hand wringing over it so much, I hope H&M add onto it and add 10 more bathrooms, just to spite them.

      • Christine says:

        Seriously! A shotgun shack is the only thing that would make them happy.

    • Lizzie says:

      It depends; the number of bathrooms in homes they have paid for; ZERO.
      The number of bathrooms in homes they live in for free? Probably 50,

  5. Woke says:

    It’s so funny at this point. Harry acknowledges his privilege so many times in the interview.
    And he has a personality that makes you forget his privilege, it’s one consistent thing people say after meeting him, how down to earth and relatable he is.

    • lucy2 says:

      This! No one can help the privilege they’re born into, but if they recognize and put it to good use, as he’s doing, great.

  6. lanne says:

    Like I said in another post, there are over 200 bathrooms just in the public funded palaces alone if any ratchet rotas are concerned. Bunny Boiler Levin needs to shimmy her ass over to one of them and take all the dumps she likes. Even though her dookie is likely toxic waste.

    Why is that mad cow so concerned about Harry’s bathrooms when she has so many royal bathrooms in the UK to inspect? Bitch needs to take a lesson from Harry and get some serious therapy.

    • Carmen-JamRock says:

      IKR?! Her preoccupation with bathrooms reveals a deep-seated shit fixation and in psychology….:

      “Freud drew a connection between adults’ covetousness of gold; and babies’ obsession with poop. “Freud had an idea that in the unconscious mind, money and perhaps gold in particular, was equivalent to some kind of shit. Excremental substance,” New York City psychoanalyst Steven Poser told me.

      According to Freud’s theory of psychosexual development, a turning point in a child’s so-called “anal phase” is the moment at which he is taught to use the bathroom, wherein he is forced to relinquish his droppings to his parents—or worse, to the sewer. “A baby has a predisposition to hold on to things,” Long Island University professor of psychology Geoff Goodman tells me. “That includes feces. When you give that up—you lose part of yourself.”

      Babies who feel they are in a loving environment may bequeath their poop without a fight. Those who hold on tight (according to Goodman, a baby “gets aroused by holding onto his feces and letting go. Holding on, letting go.”) perhaps don’t yet quite trust their parents with the goods.

      Freud argued that, for the latter, this formative experience of stinginess was apt to follow them their entire lives. Miserly people—those who hoard money, and in Freud’s day, gold—were the same types who hoarded their shit as children.”

      Source: Feces and the Gold Standard: A Psychological Explanation of Goldbuggery
      bit.ly/3uNO2Nl

  7. Me says:

    These stalkers! Butthurt because H&M are having a life without them—they are not cowed, they talk to Oprah, he calls Gayle King! Turns out Britain and its media are not really relevant.

  8. Becks1 says:

    Do they not have bathrooms in the UK? Their fixation on the bathrooms in the Sussexes home is so bizarre.

    Also, in general these comments are so unhelpful to the discussion of mental health. Many, many people feel they can’t or shouldn’t go to therapy because “other people have it worse” or “why am I complaining” etc. We need to be normalizing people getting help or therapy, not implying that if you have 16 bathrooms you are privileged and therefore don’t “deserve” therapy.

    The part about the spectrum of privilege was very interesting to me, and comparing Harry to Oprah. They were born at complete opposite ends of the spectrum, and while I think Harry is still pretty firmly at his end (white, male, wealthy, upper class, because all those things are factors in privilege, especially in the US and I imagine the UK) Oprah has clearly moved along the spectrum and is much closer to Harry than she was 40 years ago (and in some ways is beyond Harry, as she is completely self-made.) So I think their friendship is interesting because of those differences. I also think that as someone like Harry becomes more aware of their privilege, and uses it more and more to make a difference, they sort of move down that spectrum. Like he still has all this privilege, but he’s self-aware now in a way that maybe he wasnt 20 years ago.

    • Lemons says:

      If they are anything like French bathrooms, I might develop a fixation on them too 😂

    • Eurydice says:

      LOL, there’s a story that in the early 1900’s, when Sir Arthur Evans was excavating Knossos in Crete and found what might be the world’s first flushing toilet, he said that the Minoans had better plumbing 4,000 years ago than Britain had today.

    • Jaded says:

      Oprah’s also made various kinds of therapies part of her journey along the spectrum and continues to do so. She’s clearly had an effect on Harry choosing to do some serious self-analysis and seek therapy for the “blocks” in his life, so I imagine they have moved closer to each other along the spectrum.

      Angela, you could use some therapy too because it appears you have an unhealthy fixation on/obsession with Harry that is clearly getting out of control.

    • Ann says:

      I remember that episode of “Downton Abbey” where Sir Richard bought a large estate near Downton for him and Mary to inhabit after they were married, and he was doing a lot of renovations, including modernizing the bathrooms. The servants talked about this and of course that butler was snotty about it because having nice bathrooms is “Nouveau Riche” or something, and in general Sir Richard was portrayed as a vulgarian because he made his own money instead of inheriting it.

      Personally I am not into big fancy bathrooms. I didn’t grow up with them, since our house was built in the 19th century and though it was pretty large it was also old and, IMO, charming. But we have a big master bathroom in my current house because my husband who also did not grow up with that likes it. So that’s fine. I just think it’s funny that they obsess over bathrooms. It’s definitely a class thing for them, I think. It’s not just that the house has 14 bathrooms, it’s that they are probably nice modern ones and therefore Gauche. And too American.

      • Lionel says:

        @Ann: You nailed it. British aristo country homes, by and large, aren’t particularly updated and never bought with one’s own money. Focusing on the bathrooms highlights both Meghan’s American-ness and her perceived arriviste status.

      • Becks1 says:

        But I’m sure Sandringham has at least 14 bathrooms, right?? I mean I would hope so at any rate. And I would hope Windsor has that many! I’m sure M’s bathrooms are lovely and modern and up to date so maybe that bothers them, Kate is stuck in a country manor with old bathrooms while M has pretty ones, but its just such a weird thing to focus on.

        My house only has two bathrooms and they’re from the 60s and one has a pink toilet. LOL. We need to update.

      • lanne says:

        Here’s the dark part of that story. The crappy bathrooms in the aristo homes were up long flights of poorly made stairs. Lower maids as young as 12 had to haul water up those stairs to the bath rooms to fill the tubs, and they had to take the full chamber pots down the same way. They had to move quickly up the stairs because the water was heated on the stoves/fireplaces in the kitchens. They had to make several trips with these heavy buckets up and down flights of stairs to fill a bathtub. Not to mention any likely errant behavior from the Lord of the house, or guests.

        It wasn’t about “quaint rustic bathrooms in the country.” It was abuse of human labor to assert power. Those houses had dozens of servants to take care of 1 family in a massive house. They were paid pennies (room and board was included, so they didn’t make living wages). The whole system was set up to keep the upper and lower classes in their places.

      • SenseOfTheAbsurd says:

        Was reading about some big estate that had the very latest in swanky ablutions in the late 19th century, but it still involved maids running around with heavy buckets of wee. The upgrade was a specialised room for emptying the buckets.

  9. Lexistential says:

    Levin comes off unhinged and desperate- not just to get clicks, but to keep her hysteria-driven part going in this hysteric-driven (and Palace-briefed) cottage industry called the Royal Rota. She is one of the heads of a cornered hydra, and worse, she feels like she owns Harry enough to make these incredibly personal speculations, yet does it for a paycheck, and keeps doing it.

    I hope Harry’s truths make her implode.

    • Brielle says:

      She has the ‘Megxit’ crew on her twitter account so she is indeed unhinged…on her biography she noted that Harry was dating Meg at the time but that before she was dating an English rose Sarah Mclin and she was hoping that he went back to her…

      • Petra says:

        @Lexistential, @Brielle; the “unhinged-ness ” it sells and it’s profitable.
        “The course is being altered now and look, everything is supply and demand. And in today’s world the way hate has become sort of profitable, the system is set up so whether you are for or against it, you are still contributing to it.” -Prince Harry

      • Lexistential says:

        @Petra @Brielle- I wish we knew how to measure profitability. We take it for granted that Levin’s (and other’s) manufactured schtick sells, but how much is it actually selling, and how much actual monetary value is there in some stupid article like this? How much does she make, because she’s clearly dependent on fanning as many flames as possible to pay for her mortgage or rent, and needs to keep it up with Brexit affecting the cost of living.

        And though we also cannot measure this, I Prince Harry’s clout is so massive that he is inspiring efforts to push back against the algorithms and deliberate bulls**t. So there’s that at least, though I wish we had access to actual proof of declining sales figures.

      • Brielle says:

        I imagine it has to with clicks and money but it also seems like she has a personal vendetta against Meghan?

  10. TeamMeg says:

    😂 Guess that makes sixteen thrones, then. Angela sounds a bit thick. Harry’s point is about growing enough, as a human being, to really understand the positive potential of his position, and choosing to use his privilege to do good in the world.

  11. Snuffles says:

    I’ve come to the conclusion that the royal family, the UK citizens and the UK press have this unwritten social contract that is literally built into their DNA. From birth to death it has ALWAYS been one way.

    To the UK citizen, they think, you live this life of privilege because WE pay for it because we’ve bought into the fairytale and the social hierarchy our society has created. You have no right to complain, your job is to entertain us and make us feel superior on the world stage.

    To the royal rota, they’ve built up a lucrative cottage industry around the royal family and Harry cutting them off is literally cutting off their revenue streams.

    And the royal family is like, we’ve spent CENTURIES convincing people that we were the pinnacle of existence that everyone aspires to and that our existence brings great value to the UK and we’re worth the money.

    Now Harry is blowing ALL their spots up and it’s breaking their brains. He’s saying that everything they thought, believed in whether it’s consciously or subconsciously isn’t true and they can’t accept it.

  12. Over it says:

    Maybe Harry and Megs are supposed to use the woods for their business, then the British media would be happy.

    • lanne says:

      nah, that would be disrespectful of them! How dare they not do their business in a proper house? There is no number of bathrooms that would make them happy. The message is, how dare they leave this royal life and survive without it.

  13. nicegirl says:

    I’m so grateful for Harry’s focus on mental health. I struggle. I didn’t know I had ptsd for years and just thought I was a broken assface of a person. Getting an accurate diagnosis was a real breakthrough for me as I now have more resources to help me understand the disorder better and learn appropriate coping skills, and more. More information about my condition for me means a much better daily life, and it’s wonderful. H&M’s global support is very buoying for me. I have hope for a future of less stigma regarding these illnesses and treatment.

    • Liz version 700 says:

      I am so happy to hear that you were able to improve your emotional health with proper mental health treatment. Trauma is a bear to fight and the weaponizing of Harry’s mental health against him is disgusting. The response from the BM shows why more people need to advocate for this critical issue.

    • Over it says:

      I am really happy for you that you were able to get the help you needed. It’s sad that with it being mental health awareness week these people still won’t quit their abusive, unhinged, stigmatized behavior towards people who speak openly about it to try to help others. I feel sorry for the likes of Angela because being this bitter about someone else life to the point of insanity is in itself insane

  14. Over it says:

    Do you think these people listen to the podcast at all? Cause I think they missed the part at the end when Dax talks about the royal experts. Maybe Dax should have opened with that. Lolol

  15. Liz version 700 says:

    Ummmmmm thank you for proving Harry’s point about the weird RR feeling like they own him. Ms. Levin have YOU EVER THOUGHT ABOUT THERAPY? I found it very helpful for my anxiety maybe it could also help you get that stick out of your craw so you can make better use of YOUR bathrooms….

  16. Amy Bee says:

    Angela Levin just seems unhinged. It was in her book and her article in Time Magazine where she wrote that Harry wanted to leave the Royal Family years before he met Meghan so all she can do now is complain about his house that he pays for. William and Kate live in a 30 room Apartment at KP, a 10 bedroom mansion in Norfolk and are helicoptered to every engagement that is outside of London.

    • Nic919 says:

      There was recent video footage of the Cambridges using the helicopter to go to Norfolk on the weekend and yet no one complained about an elite method of travel funded by the taxpayer. So this focus on the number of bathrooms in Harry’s home, which no UK taxpayer is paying for, is just absurd.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        “But Baldy & Wiglet will be King & Queen so it is alright” seems to be party line of The Daily Fail commentariat.

    • Brielle says:

      Why do they need a 30 room apartment?

      • Elle says:

        To avoid one another

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        Because Kate wouldn’t move back on with William and out of her parent’s home which was renovated on tax payer funds until she got her own massive place that was currently leased by a charity for the blind as their headquarters.

  17. Vanessa says:

    The Double Standard is Ridiculously Tell me how William can speak on Racism in sports when he is a white man how kate can speak on early childhood development when she not a doctor or child psychologist. How any of those royals who lives in 24 bathrooms homes with maids and butlers and private’s chiefs can speak about mental health issues but Meghan and Harry can’t because they brought their own home . Those Royal Reporters are mad because they don’t have anything new to report on the Cambridge’s are boring people who don’t bring in the Revenue and clicks that the Sussex’s do those royal reporters stay Bitter because the Sussex’s are thriving and far away from them .

  18. Ginger says:

    There are plenty of celebrities that have the same number of bathrooms that have also committed suicide. Her point is worthless. It doesn’t matter how much you have, you can still struggle. Angela is ignorant.

  19. Rapunzel says:

    This is almost as bad as Piss Morgan saying Meg was lying about feeling suicidal.

  20. JT says:

    It seems that a certain segment of the British public still want Harry, and by extension Meghan, to be seen as theirs. That the Sussexes are THEIR royals and no one else’s. Pretending that the taxpayers are funding them is the only way to that. It’s why Charles was still peddling that lie that he helped them financially. It’s about control and trying to shackle H&M to the royal brand and therefore their success.

  21. Lionel says:

    I know several people who think like this: that because Meghan (it’s always just Meghan) has a mansion in Montecito she has no right to complain to Oprah. Some people can’t see past their economic jealousy, I guess.

    • Brielle says:

      Yeah I know that’s crazy and they touched on it on the podcast…and I mean Bourdain,Kurt cobain and many stars who had everything took their lives so wealth is not enough

  22. MerlinsMom1018 says:

    Question:
    What does having X number of bathrooms have to do with mental health?

  23. Brielle says:

    Angela Levin seems in love with Harry and like jilted lover…she seems irrational and unhinged about Harry

  24. Janerys says:

    Come on now. The “Salty White Folk Isle is offensive and lazy and stop trying to make fetch work frankly. You’re talking about England, Scotland and Wales and millions of people and diverse cultures. Even with a crappy government and Brexit Britain is more progressive than the US in terms of maternity rights and employment rights to name two things. There is a free at the point of entry health service that is very much appreciated by Americans who benefit from it and there isn’t a gun problem. Capital punishment was abolished more than half a century ago. It’s really not hard to separate the ranks of the aristocracy and upper classes and the tabloid press from the country.

    • Lindsay says:

      The UK has a lot of great stuff going for it, no question. I really think that this forum uses “Salty White Folk Isle” and similar monikers to refer to British tabloid culture and its many contributors and devotees. It’s just shorthand for “folks who are incandescent with rage over every single thing the Sussexes do.” Lots of UK folks support H&M, even if it’s hard to remember that sometimes amid the tabloid maelstrom.

    • lanne says:

      Lots of us in the US despised trump, but from 2016-2020 the US was Trump’s America. It was a fair assessment, even though there were more people in the US who were against Trump than for him. It was fair because we had a system in place that allowed Trump to become president, and when people talk about Trump’s America, they are criticising that system. Likewise, the UK has a systematic problem with right wing media creating and driving stories. Your tabloid media is an accepted part of the mainstream media, so that tabloid writers who represent news organizations that hack phones, bully people to suicide, and outright lie are given voice on mainstream institutions like the BBC. Writers for Newsmax and OAN are not invited on NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN. Salty White Isle reflects the state of your tabloid press and the chokehold that your tabloid press has on all of your media.

      • Janerys says:

        Fair point about Trump’s America. I actually campaigned for HRC in 2016 – in PA and GA. You assume I’m British because I made a point about lazy generalisations. I’m an Irish citizen.

    • Sofia says:

      As someone who is not white and lives in the UK, I know exactly what that phrase means when people use it. It means the white royal reporters who act outraged and salty and live in the UK. Most people here aren’t shitting on the entirety of the UK when they use that.

      PS: there’s no real need to enter into a dick measuring/pissing contest into which country is better or worse. Yes the UK has a lot of good things going but it’s also got a lot of shitty things going – past and present.

      • JT says:

        @Janerys So Brexit and all of the ramifications it entails isn’t happening then, including Scotland potentially leaving the Uk in a referendum? Ok then. No country is perfect, but let’s not act like the treatment of Meghan isn’t direct tied to the right wing movement happening in the UK right now. We have are problems in the US for sure, but we don’t pretend that we don’t have any problems.

      • PrincessK says:

        @JT you are correct. There is a horrible wave of right wing nationalism spreading across the UK, and Unfortunately Meghan entered the UK as it was building up. People hated the fact that Harry was introducing African blood into the royal family.

      • Janerys says:

        @Sofia and JT – I’m an Irish citizen. By no means do I think GB is perfect. The Windsors were the accidental inheritors of the throne after dozens of better placed Catholics were passed over. By it’s nature the royal family is pretty ludicrous. I’m not some flag waving, Rule Britannia Brit and I think the stereotyping of Brits based on views of H&M is offensive. I read the boards and there are people who can’t separate the country from its press and “elites”. Of course most can.

    • lanne says:

      With Brexit, you are likely to inherit a lot of America’s problems, unfortunately. How sustainable is the NHS under the Tories? I think they’re itching to dismantle it and replace it with a health care system like the US’s. God help you if that happens.

  25. ABritGuest says:

    Predictable reaction & glad Harry said sections of the press feel ownership over the royals but he’s overcome his fear of the press & will continue to talk on mental health etc.

    Personalities aside, I’ve always felt a lot of sympathy for Bill & Harry. Wealth & privilege doesn’t insulate you from one of the most public family breakdowns & then having to put up a stiff upper lip in front of the world when your mother dies. I never blamed William for having railed against his destiny before because I think royal life has come at a personal cost to him-loss of Diana, press intrusion since he was young etc. I’ve seen republicans say that a great argument for ending the monarchy is to set the royals free from their gilded cage & think it’s a good point.

  26. Plums says:

    omg this ridiculous fixation on the price of the montecito mansion and the bathrooms. Like, why is it even a thing? It’s a typical estate for the ultra wealthy. Why is it a surprise that guestrooms of the elite probably come with their own bathrooms? Or that on-site staff quarters would have them, or the gym or yoga studio or sauna or detached guesthouse or pool house or tennis court or whatever. This is not a surprise. What would be a surprise is if a billionaire family (they aren’t yet but they probably will be) live in a sprawling, multi-acre estate with all the amenities for convenience one would expect of the elite, but people would have to walk down a flight of stairs or to the other side of the estate or wait in line to use a shared bathroom. No.

    And honestly, I remember looking at articles about Montecito when the news first broke they bought that home, and compared to some of the other celebrities in the area? They got that place for an absolute STEAL. $14 million versus mansions going for $30-$40 million.

    • (The OG) Jan90067 says:

      Have to tell you, in So. Cal, $14M for a home is NOT considered “ULTRA” wealthy. It *is* “wealthy” of course, but in Montecito, as well as the West Side of LA (Bev. Hills, Century City, Santa Monica/Malibu) $14M is *not* considered *that* much for high end homes here. There are people that will buy homes on big lots for that price, and tear them down to rebuild.

      “ULTRA wealthy” are homes that run over $50M.

  27. Lizzie says:

    Just for future reference, what is the exact number of bathrooms that preclude me from discussing certain subjects? I would hate to embarrass myself by making a comment when I have too many bathrooms to have a valid point.

  28. A Guest says:

    Angela Levin is so unhinged about Harry that folks on Twitter were openly mocking her and what her response would be about the podcast. They are now calling her the female “Piss Moran”.

    She’s so far gone that she doesn’t realize that people are laughing at her. Talk about someone who could use therapy. She’s written about the way her mother treated her but apparently Harry can’t say anything about anyone ever.

    • Brielle says:

      I really hope that ‘mocking’( nothing at the scale of what Meghan suffered and still is) will make her re assess her behavior but she is so far gone that I don’t know…She was the one who hated the choir on their wedding day…it was on CNN and Don has to tell her off and go to commercials

  29. Merricat says:

    Angela Levin is demented, and everyone knows that. She has no livelihood beyond her insane rantings about a couple who don’t even live in the same country as she. I hope she saved her money.

  30. Curious says:

    lmao the royal family are going insane that they can’t take credit for Harry /Meghan work in the usa..

  31. Izzy says:

    Lord Baldingham of Keenbridge lives in a fcking PALACE, why doesn’t she tell HIM to shut up about mental health?

  32. Jannie says:

    Ladies and gentlemen, you are currently sympathizing…. to the effing Windsor! Certainly he could’ve bought the same house with his military salary, or his ambitious American actress wife could’ve chipped in, who knows??

  33. Dl says:

    I do not understand the BM fascination with bathrooms. Do they not have enough in the UK? Is there like one per building or something? Is it some kind of luxury to have more than one? No one asks or reports on how many toilets Oprah has. It is amazing!

    • lanne says:

      well, royal ratchets do seem to be peculiarly obsessed with their own waste products. But they prefer smearing said waste products all over the media instead of, you know, flushing it down the toilet.

  34. Dizzy says:

    I’m not British, but I lived there for a few years. How can you dismiss a whole country as Salty White folks isle. People living day to day in the UK don’t give a second thought to the Royal family. It’s a vibrant county populated with people of all colours and backgrounds. There are many immensely creative and talented people there.

    • Carmen-JamRock says:

      Um……because the criticism is aimed solely at the Salty White Folks on that Isle? Its their isle too, rt? Hence, Salty White Folks Isle.

      • Brielle says:

        This is like ‘All lives matter’…I mean of course Kaiser is talking about the likes of Angela Levin,Jeremy Vine,BBC who said that Meghan radicalised Harry ( which is super dangerous) so the vitriol doesn’t only stay on tabloïds like British ppl want us to believe…and isn’t that crazy when Dax was researching about Harry he said he talked with one of his British friend who is super intelligent,said that he didn’t like that a stranger(Meghan) talked about her experience with the royals…in other tweets an entrepreneur said that she sat with very intelligent men in meetings in the UK who repeated every lies said on tabloids and when she questioned them,they didn’t know how to respond…

  35. Mia says:

    If the number of bathrooms negatively correlates to emotional intelligence, therapists would never poop

    Put that in your pipe, Angela Levin 😄

  36. BnlurNforever says:

    Sorry, I read this and haven’t stopped cackling since it was posted. I cackled and cackled and cackled and cackled. I stopped cackling only long enough to come tell ya’ll that I’ve been cackling my arse off.

  37. savu says:

    I listened to the whole podcast today. Harry specifically talked about “they think you can’t possibly have mental health struggles AND privilege.” It’s just so funny which parts of the quotes they choose to use.

  38. Curious says:

    Harry said so much of importance. an this woman decided the bathrooms in his home is more important to discuss…if she knew what they was eating for breakfast she would make a whole article about it ..

  39. mpetz76 says:

    The reason H+M chose that particular house, other than proximity to her mother and easy to secure, is the property around it. And only a big house would have all these ‘amenities’. Meghan has been said to want a house that has gardens, especially roses, and from the moment I saw pictures of the property with those flowers, I knew that was why they chose it!

  40. Legalese says:

    I will never understand people who think that rich people are immune from suffering and therefore aren’t allowed to talk about their mental health issues. Money doesn’t equal happiness – the cliche is true. I had SO many close friends in college who came from incredibly wealthy families but were truly the most tortured and messed up people I had ever met in my life. Owning your privilege is certainly really important. But as long as you do that, you shouldn’t be precluded from speaking about your struggles, no matter how much money you have. It’s not like suffering is a zero sum game. I think the backlash against Harry, among many other things, reflects a serious problem with empathy in our society.

  41. Leona Sodke says:

    Oh seriously? Even the bathrooms are a problem? We had one. Yeah there were times when that was a problem with 8 to 10 staying in the house at one time. But….we were not “entitled” so we just mostly took it in stride. How many people in the United Kingdom alone do not have any inside bathrooms? I did promise myself to ignore any stories about that whining bunch of ninnies from now on. After all I swore off soap operas a long time ago.

  42. Likeyoucare says:

    I hope Dax will talk about the unhinged royal rotas in his next podcast.
    He can read all the headlines and stories from the newspapers and then interview real journalists and expert to comment about those clowns.

  43. jwoolman says:

    I have never understood the idea that if you are wealthy then you can’t be depressed or unhappy or anxious or suicidal etc. We know that money isn’t equal to happiness and that rich parents can be a curse for children while the right poor parents can be a blessing.

    The only person in my brother’s high school class who died by suicide was most likely from the richest family. She was popular and seemed happy, until she wasn’t and then was dead.

    As far as the number of bathrooms is concerned – considering they live in a big house with room for a lot of guests, I sure hope they have a lot of bathrooms. I could use an extra one myself, and I just live in a tiny place with two cats. Waiting for somebody to finish in the bathroom so you can use it yourself is not fun at all.

  44. embrat says:

    They can’t live in a modest home with 2.5 bathrooms in a suburb because they will not be safe from the plethora of threats they face. They need to live in a gated community for safety and guess what- they’re filled with big homes with lots of bathrooms and gates and fences. No hate from me for where they live or what they bought with their own money. Being scared for your safety is not good for mental health.