A new book is coming out next week and shockingly it’s not some sleazy tell-all from someone who worked in the Trump administration. “I never knew he was a fascist!” Yes you did, shut up. No, this book is about the Democratic Party and how they defeated Trump. It’s called Battle for the Soul: Inside the Democrats’ Campaigns to Defeat Donald Trump by Edward-Isaac Dovere. Dovere has some interesting details about Democratic leaders and some comments which basically sound like sh-t Barack Obama was saying to donors and congressional leaders. Those comments from Obama… well, they are stuff we’ve all said. And I wish Obama had said all of it as we were going through it. But it’s good to know he was saying this sh-t privately.
What Obama was saying behind the scenes: According to a new book, Obama called Trump a “madman”, a “racist, sexist pig”, “that f–king lunatic” and a “corrupt motherf–ker”.
Jill Biden was mad at Kamala Harris: Jill Biden is quoted as saying now Vice-President Kamala Harris should “go f-ck herself” after a memorable debate-stage attack on Joe Biden early in the primary.
Obama was initially more concerned about a Ted Cruz candidacy: Dovere reports that Obama first preferred the prospect of Trump as president to Ted Cruz, because Trump was nowhere near as clever as the hard-right Texas senator, the runner-up in the Republican primary in 2016. But from 2017, as reality swiftly set in, Obama reacted like many in the US and around the world.
What Obama was telling donors: “He’s a madman,” Dovere reports Obama telling “big donors looking to squeeze a reaction out of him in exchange for the big checks they were writing to his foundation.” “More often: ‘I didn’t think it would be this bad.’ Sometimes: ‘I didn’t think we’d have a racist, sexist pig.’ Depending on the outrage of the day … a passing ‘that f–king lunatic’ with a shake of his head.”
On Trump’s Russian vibez: Obama’s strongest remark, Dovere reports, was prompted by reports that Trump was speaking to foreign leaders – including Vladimir Putin, amid the investigation of Russian election interference and links between Trump and Moscow – without any aides on the call. “‘That corrupt motherf–ker,’ he remarked.”
Whomst among us has not used those exact words. For four years, every single one of us was like “motherf–ker” this and “corrupt piece of sh-t” that. The thing that surprised me was the bit about Ted Cruz, and Obama thinking that Trump would be preferable to Cruz. Talk about from the frying pan into the fire. While Cruz is technically smarter than Trump, it’s kind of bizarre to me that Obama didn’t have the same gut-check instinct about Trump in 2016. The whole “he didn’t think it would be this bad” thing – like, really? Obama was arguably one of the best political minds of three generations and he was shocked that the neo-Nazi was in fact a neo-Nazi?
In the same book, Obama also described the Tea Party as a bunch of “racist motherf—ers.” Which also checks out.
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Where is the lie?
Yep, spot on BO.
He missed a couple more adjectives, in fact.
I agree….. he was “generous” in his assessment
I mean we been knew. While usually ex-presidents avoid saying anything about the president in charge, the fact that Obama was openly criticizing Drumpf with polite words just told me that much less polite words were being said in private.
I wish he would have been publicly vocal too, but I kind of understand why he wasn’t. And yes we’ve all said similar things repeatedly about orange and his administration.
He was only saying quietly what the rest of us were shouting loudly.
And water is wet. I think Obama may have thought that Trump while being evil, didn’t really know how government works. But Cruz was evil and knew how to work the machine. I think Trumps ignorance made him more dangerous to the country because he was so easily manipulated and the puppet masters knew this.
Also Obama couldn’t foresee that Trump would develop a large cult following who are willing to do anything for him. That has made him more powerful and dangerous and is the reason that the Republican party is now beholden to him for the votes that he can get them. It has also emboldened the fascist leanings of other American and international politicians.
I bet that’s not all he called him….and he’s not wrong!
I bet you’re right. I’d like to have heard it though!
Yes, I am certain that both Obama and Michelle would be having their morning coffee and breakfast, but unable to eat, as they saw the destruction that occurred everyday. They were probably more incensed than we were as Drumpf dismantled as much of Obamas rulings and actions, like the Dakota pipeline and his complete disregard as to his inability to actually be a president. Now we can throw our hands up in the glory that all of these AG’s coming after him and Rudy is stuck and will sing for his freedom as there is not thing worse than having to face a longer jail term and will certainly lose his license. Plus, he will never see a penny from Drumpf!!
Truer words…
Well, he was right.
I think the shock may have been in the level of absolute incompetence and the destruction of our federal agencies
Obama, publicly at least, persisted in the belief that the GOP was just another political belief system (rather than a sexist, racist murder/suicide pact) far longer than he should have, but the GOP hasn’t exactly made a secret of their desire to ruin everything.
They’re really more regressive/anarchists than they are conservative.
I had the same thoughts in 2015 and after the election – that Trump was better than Cruz. I kept falling back on the fact that he was a New York Democrat and hoping that without being beholden to the GOP apparatus, he might actually govern as a moderate, independent. Obviously that was stupidly wishful thinking, but that’s what I told myself after he won. I thought “This might be ok. He’s not Ted Cruz.” Sheesh….I think President Obama and I were both suffering from delusions because he was as bad – if not worse – than I feared.
How were you to know what a treasonous, corrupt daughter-r*per he was? I don’t like to think of those early days; we had so much slogging left. We’re still slogging but we have Biden and both houses.
He was a New York Democrat because that was the only way to get invited to the best parties where the people with power in the city and state could be found.
He’s the original Trumper. A party of “whatever is best for me, the hell with the rest of you” with a generous helping of “burn it all down” and “the cruelty is the point.” He has no political ideology (or any sort of allegiance) to anyone or anything other than himself. I can’t wait for him to be indicted.
I loveeee me some Jill Biden. She seems like the type who would fight someone throw down style who attacked her husband or kids. She’d also be your fiercest advocate if you were her student. She can do no wrong in my mind, we could all benefit from having a Jill in our corner.
Doctor Jill is awesome!
He is being generous. I call him much worse.
@Dss Me too – Much worse LOL
I am just beyond grateful that POS is not torturing us everyday from the Oval Office anymore!
The most interesting part to me is the fact that Kamala Harris put herself on the Bidens’ shit list after trying to paint him as a racist in that primary debate. I’m so curious about what went on behind the scenes between then and when they chose her to be his Vice President. I know that he promised it would be a woman of color, but there were a lot of potential woman of color VP picks other than Kamala that he hadn’t been in personal conflict with.
I mean, she definitely did but at the same time…what did she say that wasn’t true? I had the same problems with Biden. I mean, he’s gotten a lot better, and it’s fantastic to see someone can grow even in old age, but yeah I had issues with this guy. Kamala took a gamble that she could take Joe out and coalesce the stop-sanders base. She lost that gamble, but became the first woman VP, and in position to become the first woman President anyway. I’m not sure I want to know the details because I really like all these people. Biden so far is a great President. They got over it. You know, good for them.
I thought he promised a woman, I don’t recall that he specifically said woman of color.
That’s true.
He initially said a woman but as the vetting process went on and women like Kobluchar, Warren, and Gillebrand were considered, he changed to a woman of color. The final list included Harris, Susan Rice, Val Dennings, and another woman from Florida.
He promised a woman at first, but with the BLM movement exploding over the summer and that becoming such a dominating issue, he specified a woman of color.
Her relationship with Beau Biden seems to have been a major contributor. He really trusted his son Beau and Beau’s instincts about people and she and Beau were close friends who worked on some tough issues together as Attorneys General.
@ LightPurple, I agree. Kamala was very tight with Beau and from that perspective, he knew that given their friendship told him what he needed to know about her. Biden cherishes his family and their opinions, especially Dr. Biden. And I love Dr. Biden!! I watched her present the Teacher of Year on CBS and she was extremely supportive and was very congratulatory to her.
This says a lot about Biden to me. He put country over his personal, hurt feelings. It’s a 180 from the last guy.
Such a classy president and family we had. That he said that does not detract from that. He said it privately. Which is still on brand for him. I wish like hell he could run again.
My read isn’t that he was surprised that Trump was racist fascist etc, but he was surprised at how effective he was and how much his party let him get away with.
He tells no lies.
So Obama has called 45 the same things most sane people have been saying all along? How newsworthy…LOL!
Obama and his family were excellent people to represent America on the world stage.
I miss him as POTUS.
He is correct about Trump. And because he said these things in private vs. in public, just shows how much class BO has.
Classy, well spoken, intelligent, etc. all traits Trump lacks.
Susan, yes, this is exactly the way I feel too! Thank you for stating it so well. The only thing I would add is that after the way Mr. Trump taunted him for years, and Obama would stay cool, and only publicly responded a few times, all the Trump supporters would yell, he’s not the President anymore about Obama, but YET it is perfectly fine that NOW it is the Trumps and his crew that won’t shut up and go away like they wanted Obama too. Hypocritical, and ironic.
You know Trump is missing his Twitter right about now
Ha ha! YES! 😂
I’m still amazed that Kim Jong Un, of all people, was the one to reach deepest into the dictionary and pull out the most perfect word to describe Trump that nobody had ever thought of: the Dotard.
All I see in the pic of the 2 couples is the side by side comparison of the size of the two men’s hands. Donny Small Hands indeed!!
He totally 100%%%% correct. 45 is below scum and shouldn’t have even been allowed to be president!!!!! I hope dies in prison
I honestly don’t think very many people had any inkling in early 2017 how bad the Trump presidency would be. Looking back on it now it feels almost like an out of body experience. Remember in Spring 2017 when everyone was upset that he gave code-word Israeli intelligence to two Russian spies while entertaining them in the Oval office? We were so innocent then.
Me…reading what Jill said about Kamala……
😛😝😆😅😀😃🙃😡😬😉😛
I ain’t mad at Jill…nor Kamala❣
Obama was absolutely correct in every comment. He privately used these words and they are all true. Racist? Check. Sexist? Check. Corrupt? Check. A madman? Check. Racist, sexist, corrupt, motherfucking madman. Check. And that’s 45 as per 44. Add traitor, murderer, rapist, abuser, liar, incestuous and terrorist and I think we’ve mapped out the whole picture of that motherfucker, 45.
I despise 45 and even I didn’t think it was going to be as bad as it ended up being. It is difficult to comprehend the depths these people will go. However, many of the republicans still in office are just as bad. Maybe worse.
He wasn’t wrong.
It’s such a relief these days. I don’t curse enough to attract a lightning strike anymore. I still grumble though when they show clips of Drumpf and those complicit, cowardly republicans on the news.
Another thing I noticed, those bottom two pics are rare of examples of Drumpf wearing a genuine, human, smile. Strange, isn’t it? Most of the time he has that snarl and his eyes and brows look furious. What a mess of a lost soul he is!
He’a not wrong…
Haven’t we all? Lol