I genuinely thought that the Duchess of Sussex was due later in June. Meghan said, in the Oprah interview, that she was due “in the summer,” and for some reason, I really thought we had a few more weeks to go! I even said that in this week’s Gossip with Celebitchy podcast. I also thought it was a strong possibility that Lil’ Montecito would be a Cancer and not a Gemini. Nope on all of that! My bad. I was wrong! Meghan gave birth on Friday to a little Gemini baby girl named Lilibet Diana.
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry are now a family of four! The Duchess of Sussex welcomed the couple’s second child — a baby girl — on Friday.
“It is with great joy that Prince Harry and Meghan, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex, welcome their daughter, Lilibet “Lili” Diana Mountbatten-Windsor, to the world,” read a statement from the couple released on Sunday.
“Lili was born on Friday, June 4 at 11:40 a.m. in the trusted care of the doctors and staff at Santa Barbara Cottage Hospital in Santa Barbara, CA. She weighed 7 lbs 11 oz. Both mother and child are healthy and well, and settling in at home,” the statement continued. “Lili is named after her great-grandmother, Her Majesty The Queen, whose family nickname is Lilibet. Her middle name, Diana, was chosen to honor her beloved late grandmother, The Princess of Wales.”
“This is the second child for the couple, who also have a two-year-old son named Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor. The Duke and Duchess thank you for your warm wishes and prayers as they enjoy this special time as a family.”
Lili! Lilibet Diana. I take that to mean that she’ll go by the nickname Lili. Which is a flower name, so we were right about that, at least. Glad they didn’t name the child Philippa, good lord. There was also a story this weekend about how Meghan was due on Philip’s 100th birthday, which is the 10th. I’m sort of glad that it didn’t happen on his birthday though. Also: how great is it that Meghan gave birth on Friday and they got to announce the news on their own schedule? It wasn’t leaked to TMZ or the Daily Mail!!
As for the name… we figured that “Diana” would be in there. Lilibet is genuinely a surprise, just because that was one of the names shortlisted by the gambling sites. I take it to mean that Harry still has a great deal of affection for his grandmother, and that Meghan doesn’t blame the Queen for what happened in the UK. Oh well! Congrats to the family of four!
Photos courtesy of Backgrid, Avalon Red.
wow, was not expecting this
A lot of people expected a flower name so Lili satisfies it…..but I didn’t expect Lilibet. I will call her Lili and forget the betty part.
I am so happy for Meghan…jeez, a peaceful pregnancy; 2 days with no one in the world knowing except them! it must stink for some in the UK
I wish the Sussexes family of 4 now, all the happiness in the world
vs, you don’t have to “forget” the betty part! It has been announced she will be “Lili,” though the full name is Lilibet. It’s beautiful, Lili Diana…
I wasn’t either. There’s a lot attached to those names.
Too much, imo.
First of all I cannot believe I was so busy with chores today I’m late to the party. Second, Lilibet?? IDK. Lili’s parents may well be the catalyst that brings down the monarchy and she’s saddled with the name of potentially the last real monarch? Well they know what they’re doing. I’m sure they have a valid reason. And I do love the name Lili.
Harry is a Royal, and this is what they do, is honour their children with names of their parents/grandparents; they stepped out of the mould with Archie, and they’ve continued with Lili…only her legal name will be Lilibet, and it’s honouring the Queen but not in a formal way, I think it’s sweet. Why shouldn’t Harry’s children have family names?!
There’s a lot attached to these children in general. They could name her Lisa Ann and it wouldn’t change a thing.
Maybe, but the Lilibet may fall by the wayside the same was that Harry’s “Henry” is never remembered. Being named after the queen obviously be a big deal in the near future, but “Lili Windsor” could easily be just another middle schooler in California in 12 years.
@Niamh … I always thought they would name their daughter Elizabeth. Some of the Queen’s other granddaughters have ‘Elizabeth’ as part of their names, but none of them have the first name Elizabeth … or Lilibet, which is what the Queen was called by her family growing up. I think it’s a very sweet gesture. 🙂
Harry has always had a wonderful relationship with the Queen. I think they share a similar sense of humor as well because there or loads of pictures of them laughing when they’re out during engagements together.
Oh, and I’m not surprised by the date. I actually thought it would be a May delivery because Meghan looked HUGE in the Oprah interview. Another thing? I think they might sneak to England sometime in the next month and lay low at Frogmore Cottage.
@Yvette,I don’t agree with you on them sneaking off to England anytime soon. Do agree with you on not being surprised by the date. When they said summer I took it mean after Memorial Day which is when a lot believe is the start of summer. And, they said summer to keep the media at bay thinking June 21st and after. It’s what I would do if being hounded was a possibility.
The name is a sweet gesture and Lili is a lovely name. My petty self also wants to see it as an FU to the tabloids who made it an issue about Meghan choosing lilies of the valley for their wedding but not when Kate chose them for her and Carole’s – oops Kate & William’s wedding.
I reckon if they do sneak over anytime this year, it will be a direct flight to Scotland to see the Queen at Balmoral and then straight out without touching England. The Scots will not leak it and it will have the added effect of two fingers up to the tabloid press (who are predominantly London based).
@ADS I truly hope this happens!
Just heard the great news! A baby is a joy and a blessing and the names are lovely. Very pleased that both mother and baby girl are safely delivered and doing well. ❤️
I wasn’t expecting it, either, but I’m thrilled they named their baby after me!
I am SHOOK! So unexpected! Lili will be a beauty— I hope we see a photo soon!
STUNNED! But I love it. Blessings to the family in Montecito, and may the rest be forced to watch their ever increasing joy and success as their own diminishes.
+1
+ 2 🙌. Every single word you said will come to pass and I will sit back and enjoy watching.
This makes me so happy! Hope they are all doing well ❤️❤️
Same!! Especially after their recent loss, I wish them all the happiness in the world!
YAY!!!! Best news all week!!!! Being a Gemini baby myself I’m so happy! Love that this name is tribute to both Philip and Elizabeth as well as Diana. I never understood the people trying to make Philippa happen. It’s not going to happen.
I caught the Philip tribute in it, too. Lilibet honors them both.
Another Gemini here who is excited by this! I just realized the other day that with the due date coming up, she could have ended up sharing my birthday (which is next weekend). But you know who else is not only a Gemini but also has a June 4 birthday? La Jolie! I don’t know why that thrills me, but it does.
I hadn’t initially thought of the Philip connection to the name too, but I love that. Congrats all around, completely delightful news on a Sunday.
Our baby was born on Friday too (I know! I shouldn’t be on the internet, I should be sleeping) and we were due at the end of June so just because she came this early doesn’t necessarily mean she wasn’t due “in the summer” a bit later on.
Also, I’m just relieved they didn’t choose the same name we did!
CONGRATS Anony83!!
And enjoy your time on the internet! “Me time” is also valuable and in short supply with a new baby. 🙂
Congrats Anony83!! In my culture, Friday is the best day to be born so double congrats on the new arrival 🙂
Another 12 hours and 20 minutes and she would have been born on my birthday! So happy to welcome a new Gemini sister! So, so happy for this little family!
Absolutely thrilled for them! Surprised by the name, but I dig it.
Waiting for the BM to chime in: how dare they insult the queen by…naming her great-granddaughter after her! The palaces are blindsided by this news!
And Piers will devote his daily tirade to their naming the child Lilibet
The good news is that beside is twitter account, Piss doesn’t have any platform to spread his hate. Sounds to me he has a harder time finding a new job!
OMG I can’t wait, shut out 😂😂.
I’m over the moon for them and truly wish their little family so much happiness, so deserved. 💛
Yes, my reaction was:
1. Hoorah! Safely delivered, lovely news.
2. The RF/Cambridge stans and RRs are going to MELT DOWN about those names.
Hahahahahaha.
@Henchmen. That was my exact reaction too 😂😂. I love this little family. They bring a smile to my face on even a bad day. I pray for continued health love and happiness for them.
I was so gleeful when I saw the name! I was OMG the RF (except the Queen, I’m sure she knew) and the RR and BM are going to explode lol
Lili is very pretty, specially with the French spelling.
Lilibet? Mmmm…. It’s veeeery twee isn’t it? And it’s so clearly the childhood nickname of one specific person. I even thought it was a joke when I saw it tweeted earlier.
I’m a bit sad both names are from ‘his side’. I would have like to see Meghan add one of ‘her’ names too.
I was hoping for Doria Diana, but Lili Diana is okay.
@Carmen me too! Doriana would have included both mums, but it is their choice. Lovely names! ❤️
I’m glad they didn’t go with Doria. I think it’s a lot of pressure to name a child after an adult they’ll grow up knowing but I do feel like Meghan’s heritage isn’t getting fully acknowledged with these names.
@Capepopsie: I suggested Doriana a while back. They could call her Dori.
@Carmen that would have been awesome.
I agree with the other commenters that Doria will likely be so involved in the baby’s and Archie’s life that honoring her namesake would be a bit redundant.
And let’s face it… Doria is the only one on M’s side worth acknowledging. I’m not surprised they went full-royal considering that.
It was a nickname but in the next ten years I am sure it will become a bonafide name that people will choose.
There are tons of bonifide names that began as nicknames for Elizabeth. Liz and Lizzie are still usually nicknames but Eliza, Liza, Lisa, Lily, Betty, Bette, Beth, and probably others are all extractions from Elizabeth.
I was sad about this too. It kind of hurts to see how badly Meghan was hurt by that family, yet her children’s names have no connection to her and only to that family. However, I think they maybe made the choice to go “full royal” on her name because they realize she might not have much of a connection besides that. Like why name her after Doria when she will be very much in her life? There is a real chance she will never meet the Queen.
Not necessarily. Maybe Meghan just doesn’t particularly love any names from her side of the family. When I was pregnant and thinking of names, I really wanted to honour my grandfather but ultimately, I absolutely hate his first and middle names. Doesn’t mean I love him or cherish his memory any less, but Bernard Charles just does not work for my tastes.
Megan is living very close to her mother and both children will be able to have Grandma Doria in their lives but Diana… they can’t. and the Queen is the Queen and Harry has spoken very highly of her this entire time which tells me that she hasn’t come for them the way his Father and his Brother have. She is also very old at this point and i’m sure he’s anticipating that her time is coming sooner than later. i think this name choice makes sense. and i think it’s beautiful and fits Archie’s name as well (in terms of sibling names together)
Harry clearly adores the Queen and Meghan has always spoken very highly of her also.
I think it’s like you said, they named her after Harry’s family because they know they won’t be as significant in her daily life as Doria. Being named after the Queen and Diana (the two most important and beloved family members for Harry) gives her a connection to that side of the family that she might not otherwise have.
It kind of balances out in that way. She’s named after the Queen and Diana, but she’ll likely grow up an American in California with Doria as a constant in her life.
I really, really love my family, but I still did
Not want to use any family names for my only daughter. It was sort of a tradition as none of my siblings were named after any relative, actually only myself. I still honored my husband’s wishes to give her his grandma’s name. She has one “new” name and one “old”.
I totally understand,
Also, Doria is in the baby’s life, whereas Diana is not, and the Queen would hardly be even if they still lived in Frogmore, due to her duties, schedule and management (courtiers). There is no better way to honor them both. Such a “cachetada con guante blanco” to all their detractors. They honored the real human that the queen is, the more private “Lilibet”, not particularly the institution.
What Chimes said. I loved my dad but I though his first and middle names were awful. So we named our son Daniel for his paternal grandfather.
So we know for a fact that none of the names have come from her side? Has there been confirmation of where the names Archie and Harrison come from? Those could well be from her mother or fathers extended family. Why are we assuming they are linked to Harry?
Same, I love Lili. Lilibet, meh. But, not my daughter.
My daughter and I are both Geminis…then she reminded me last week that Trump is, too lol.
Another Gemini in the house 👍
I was actually not thrilled when I found the ‘Orange Cheeto’ is also a Gemini, but eh
Lots of fellow Geminis here! My birthday was last week and I was SO hoping that Baby Sussex would be my birthday twin, but she waited a couple of extra days. At least we’re both Geminis : )
@Lorelei, she was born the day before my birthday which was Saturday. So close, but am so happy we have a new Gemini sister!
Yeah, I have to agree. Lilibet is like a nickname a child gives another child because they can’t pronounce the full name. It’s like if they named her Beezus, for any Beverly Cleary fans out there. To each their own, but I can’t imagine being a grown adult with that name.
This is an amazing comment. 🤣
Beezus, yes! Good comparison. Also Lilibet is sort of a tongue twister. Hopefully she’ll always be Lili.
It’s a nod to Philip. He was the last one who called Elizabeth by that name in the family to pass away.
That’s exactly how the nickname came about. The Queen couldn’t pronounce Elizabeth as a small child, she said Lilibet instead. I think their choice is lovely. They’ve both repeatedly said they have no will towards his grandmother and he loves her very much. I can’t understand why people continue to project their own feelings and beliefs about Harry & Meghan’s relationship with her and refuse to listen to what they themselves have said.
Wishing this beautiful family all the happiness in the world.
Typical snobbish people thinking that if they don’t approve of or can’t pronounce one’s name then they have the right to make snide jokes and remarks about you and your name, SMDH. I don’t like the name Lilibet and most especially because I dislike the English queen very much, but if the Sussexes like that name and chose it for their “black” baby girl, then all power to them. A lot of times people tell me how my African native indigenous name is “very hard to pronounce and don’t you have an Anglicized version that is easier?” and it makes me so mad. Like who are you to even make any stoopid remarks or comments about my name? Idiots!
Many congratulations to the Duke and Duchess of Sussex and to their beautiful son Archie Harrison on the birth of their equally beautiful daughter/little sister miss Lilibet Diana Mountbatten Windsor. Be blessed Sussex family.
I’m an Elizabeth and my mother uses Lilibet when she’s babytalking/teasing me, so yeah, definitely a nickname, but a pretty one and it’s easily shortened to Lilli or Betty, so… It’s lovely and I hope they’re all healthy and happy.
Honestly though — Doria is the only grandparent those children will know and who will love on them. That’s more important than having them named after her. Diana, who we clearly know was so special to Harry and was getting in there one way or another, and H+M have been telling us from jump that they still respect and have a relationship with the queen. She’s not going to be around much longer and this is the way they will honor her. It makes sense all around.
Exactly swirlmamad. Meghan and her mom have a very close relationship. Pretty sure there are no hard feelings with the name. Doria probably suggested keeping her name out. Just like over all these years she’s run under the radar with her quietude. It makes sense all around.
‘Lilibet’ was apparently how Margaret pronounced ‘Elizabeth’ when she was little and it stuck.
It’s very California and – even though I’m sure that this isn’t their main goal – a real poke in the eye to the BP Hater Squad. Every Time they invoke the name of that little girl, the shadows of her grandmother and great-grandmother will hover….
Mazal Tov to the new parents & Big Brother Archie!
I put a bet on Lily l wonder if the bookies will honour that spelling. I also put a be on Diana.
mE TOO (RESPONDING TO POSter who wanted somehow, somewhere some kind of acknowledgement of Meghan’s side. I’ll be happy if I could know she’s back on Archie’s birth certificate though. At least there won’t be any shenanigans with Lili’s birth certificate!! So that parts a win!
I thought it was a joke too. I really like Lili but not the queens nickname. But she’s going by Lili. However, I’m sure Harry asked TQ for permission, which she gave. So that makes me feel good.
Congrats, Harry, Meghan and Archie.
I felt yesterday she’d given birth. Just a feeling.
I can’t say what Meghan was thinking, but if it were my choice, I would totally claim my daughter’s birthright – and there’s no better way than emphatically naming her after a Queen and a Princess. The RF tried to erase Archie, but didn’t succeed. And they’re not going to succeed with Lili – her great-grandmother is Elizabeth II and her grandmother was the legendary Princess Diana. The RF can froth at the mouth as much as they like, but they won’t be able to forget it.
@Eurydice this is my absolute favorite comment on the name. The way you worded it is perfect imo.
Agreed, this is the best take @Eurydice! I admit feeling a little.. conflicted about the name ‘Lilibet’ at first but thinking of it this way totally makes sense. And like @Calibration said above, this was definitely done with QEII’s knowledge and blessing which makes the affection and the association all the more evident.
FANTASTIC take. The haters wanted the name to be something devoid of royal connection so they could pretend there wasn’t a connection. H&M said nah.
YES — love this take on it! Claim that birthright, Sussexes! Those kids are royal whether the haters like it or not, so they can suck on it.
I’m actually glad they didn’t use Doria. I don’t like the idea of using names for people that are still alive.
I know so many young Lili’s, it’s crazy how names come in waves. One of my dear friends named her first daughter Lily and the second one Lila. I mean…I guess if there’s a certain sound that resonates with you…
Congratulations to them!!!
Lilibet is a lovely name and while I’m sure it’ll be twisted I doubt it will dampen the joy that happy and healthy family is feeling.
If the Sussex both have no Ill will towards the queen I wonder just how much she really knew and how much everyone around her was and co to yes to manipulate her.
I strongly believe tht Harry has been pointing out, ever since January 2020 wth their first statement and wth every statement & utterance thereafter, tht betty is not in charge of any decision made by the firm or family.
He practically said as much in the O interview, especially his answer to O’s ques: “doesnt the queen get to do whatever the queen wants to do?” And H said “No,” then went on to explain abt her advisors and the “bad advice” she had been fed & continues to be fed.
But she was in charge when her son Andrew was protected right ? She was the only one who had the power to stop the Meghan and even before her Diana bullying but she didn’t do anything.
It also came up in the same interview, when Harry talked about seeing TQ on his trip in early 2020. At first it was, “Oh it will be lovely to see you.” And then when he got to the UK, all of a sudden, it was “So sorry, she’s too busy to see you.” When he finally got her on the phone, it was pretty obvious to him that she was no longer “allowed” to see him.
That was what was most fascinating to me about The Crown – seeing how little power she has in The Institution itself. She couldn’t even pick her personal aides, she had to pick the one Next In Line because That Is How It Is Done. She gets “advice” but it seems more like orders instead of true advice.
I can’t think of a better example of a gilded cage.
She is to be known as ‘Lili’ just as Harry was announced as ‘Henry, to be known as Harry’.
Exactly. People need to take a breath and stop freaking out at Lilibet because that is not what she is going to go by. It’s her formal name for legal documents but Lili Mountbatten-Windsor it is!
@Swirl I agree. It’s probably why they announced the “Lili” nickname – because they thought she may prefer that over lilibet. And after a while people are going to think of her as Lili in the same way everyone knows Harry as Harry and no one really thinks of his legal name Henry.
And if it’s too much for her then she can do what her mother did and go by her middle name instead
Yes, Lili will be the name their daughter goes by.
From Archwell website:
A MESSAGE OF THANKS FROM THE DUKE AND DUCHESS OF SUSSEX
“On June 4th, we were blessed with the arrival of our daughter, Lili. She is more than we could have ever imagined, and we remain grateful for the love and prayers we’ve felt from across the globe. Thank you for your continued kindness and support during this very special time for our family.”
Anotherlily swirl
I have a formal name and a nickname which is half my full name. I go by my nickname and use my full first name. Lilibet is lovely and I’m certain she will go by it formally and maybe as she ages she will choose Lilibet.
I didn’t think it was Incorrect to compliment her full 1st name. Unless I’m reading tour comments wrong.
Regardless of whatever one thinks of the name, I think Archie and Lili sound cute together!
@Wiglet Watcher I actually like both names. Something about Lilibet works for me, and Lili on its own is just lovely. A few people have mentioned this but it may be a nod to her father as well — Harry is legally Henry but no one ever calls him that. It may be intended to be the same for her — she’s legally Lilibet but everyone will call her Lili. And I agree that Archie and Lili sound really nice together as well!
I really love the name choices. It also makes the point, we are family and royalty and there’s not a damned thing the courtiers or the Daily Mail can do about it. It also reminds Charles of his 1st wife who he treated so horribly. Well done Meghan and Harry!💜💜💜
I like the name Lili, but not really a fan of Lilibet, but not my child so it doesn’t matter. I would say as far as the sticking it to Charles thing, pretty sure that isn’t really an issue. If it was wouldn’t Charlotte’s name have been an issue. She is Charlotte Elizabeth Diana. Which could be the reason they didn’t go with Elizabeth for all you negative nillies out there. It would really be a bit too much like her cousin, and no matter what the relationship is with William, it’s nice they didn’t name her that close to her cousin. Although, I know in some big families that ends up happening. Still kudos to M&H for doing that.
Just curious what’s the issue with how many names they name a child? It doesn’t seem to be title or how close you are to the thrown, is it just preference? Harry, William, Charles and all his siblings have 4 names. Prince Edward’s children both have 4 names. Queen Elizabeth, Beatrice, Eugenie, Zara Tindall, Peter Phiillips, Peter’s oldest daughter along with all of William’s kids and Eugenie’s newborn son have 3 names. Obviously, Meghan and Harry’s children only have 2 names, along with all of Zara Tindall’s children and Peter Phillip’s youngest daughter. Also, am I the only one looking at all proper sounding names and realizing the original rule breaker was Princess Anne with her daughter’s non traditional name of Zara.
Do not like it. Why put so much preassure to a little girl?
Hope they both are strong and healthy
Where is the pressure? You don’t name children after beloved family members so they’ll be the 2nd coming.
I think you’re confused with how popes and royalty choose their names to show how they will hold their positions.
It’s not like the Queen names her 1st born Charles so he would mimic the other King Charles’s… long story short… they weren’t great.
LOL! No, they were not.
I’ve often thought of that, @Wiglet Watcher. The first Charles of England was executed. The second was a dissolute lout. And someday there’ll be a third Charles — a cold, unfeeling jerk who’s insensitive to any pain but his own. I doubt the monarchy will survive past Charles, but if it did, then it’s probably best if no other heirs are named Charles. That name has bad juju for that family …
Yes – we’ve had one King Charles who managed to end the monarchy, albeit temporarily. Maybe this one will manage a more permanent job?
She will probably be called Lili. No pressure.
She will be called Lili, just as her father Henry is called Harry. That’s why it’s in the announcement.
What pressure? It’s a name.
What pressure? She’s American and nobody really gives a feck what she’s named. It’s only the salty UK whites that seem to care. It’s a way of honouring her heritage in a modern fashion. At least they didn’t name her Victoria or Margaret or Anne or some stuffy royal name.
Why don’t we just celebrate for them and their darling little daughter?
By all accounts she’s going to go by Lili. There is absolutely no weight or pressure in that whatsoever.
Anna, Seriously? What pressure are you talking about? You mean having loving parents and brother? Why do people have to be so negative with it comes to H&M?
I think this is a valid comment. So many of us said we hoped she wouldn’t be named Diana because of the pressure it would put on her and the immediate and constant extra amount of interest there would be in her for bearing that name.
I’m also really surprised at the name. We went from Archie Harrison, who has no connection to any royals to Lilibet Diana who carries the names of two royals. Many of the comments on the last naming speculation thread were basically “They’re absolutely not naming her after a royal! No way, no how.” Maybe the big statement here is that royal women, or at the very least these 2 royal women, are not the problem over there. The problem is largely with the press, the courtiers, and the men in the family. The women (or the queen, Diana, and Meghan at least?) are exploited and used? Perhaps Meghan and Harry feel a great amount of sympathy with these 2 royal women. Diana, obviously. But I always thought of Elizabeth as pretty coddled and in control of the things she cared to be in control her. Like if she insists on something she cares about, she can make it happen. Like Andrew. And then fairly happy to be the face of everything else and to allow any monarchical criticism to be squashed in the name of not wanting to “upset/offend the Queen.” A bit too silent when she should have spoken.
I think Lili is a beautiful name though. I’m surprised they didn’t just go with Lili, though. It would still honor the Queen without having the full Lilibet. And Archie is formally named Archie.
I think the name could be a lot of pressure but Harry will help her carry it. And remember this child is born in America even further away from royal tradition, history and to certain extent legacy. Maybe part of the rationale was in part to reaffirm her status that certain things cannot be taken away, in the same way Archie Harrison’s middle name is “Harry’s son”
Amy, W&K’s daughter is Charlotte Diana. Do you think that’s a lot of pressure on her? I don’t think so because middle names pretty much get forgotten in day to day life. As far as naming her Lilibet? I think that Meghan must have had a good relationship with TQ or they would NEVER have named their daughter with her nickname. What is the pressure being name that? It isn’t Elizabeth, who everyone knows is TQ. I think Lilibet actually describes the grandmother that Harry grew up with and who (I believe) had a good relationship with Meghan. She might be the only member of the brf who actually liked Meghan and enjoyed her company. We never know what’s going on behind the curtain, but do you really think that Meghan and Harry would have named her after someone who treated M horribly?
Why would there be pressure associated with her name? Pressure to…be a tall British blonde? To become a queen? To be a fashion icon? There will always be attention on Lili even if they had named her Jane Doe because she’s the daughter of a blood prince. Great-granddaughter of the Queen of England. At the end of the day, a name is just…a name. It’ s not the essence of who a person is or what they’re going to be in the future. Just a name.
@Amy too, the “pressure” sentiment was one echoed by just a handful of people on this site though, certainly NOT by the majority of the rest of us. I honestly don’t think there’s any pressure in any names these kids get, be it Diana or Elizabeth or Charles or whatever. These kids are unique individuals, not mini clones of the adults they’re named after.
Anyways, I just love the Sussex family and whatever they name their kids is fine by me. I just feel like its really so nice of these people to share their good news with us fans so…..
Saucy&Sassy, her full name is Charlotte Elizabeth Diana. A few years before her birth, Earl Spencer named his latest daughter Charlotte Diana.
I don’t think Diana as a middle name adds pressure. Charlotte has Elizabeth and Diana as middle names and they rarely get mentioned.
Lilibet won’t really be used but Lili and that is distinct enough.
The UK tabloids will be jerks to these children regardless of the name given and since they will grow up in the US, they will be protected far more than they ever would be in the UK.
I’m not saying that I personally think there’s going to be a lot of pressure, or any pressure, but that it’s a valid comment/opinion and a whole line of people jumping in to act like it’s a crazy thought that no one has ever mentioned ever before when I’ve read it on many of the baby name posts is kind of… unnecessary.
I don’t even know if the OP meant that names like Diana or Elizabeth as middle names would add a lot of pressure, and you’re all correct that lots of these royal kids have the names of their family members as second and third middle names. That’s a fairly normal and common way to honor someone you live without actually naming the baby directly after them with the same first name. But all the other royals kids also have unique first names that they’re known by as well. The Queen doesn’t have any granddaughters or great granddaughters that share a first name with her. This is the first one to actually have the Queen’s (nick)name as her first name. Baby Lilibet Diana doesn’t have any names that are not associated with either a living or in recent living memory royal. That’s interesting.
I like the name Lili, and it seems like that’s what she will be known as. Maybe Harry and Meghan were planning on Lily and then they thought “hey, she could just formally be lilibet, then we can get your grandma in there too even though we’ll only really call her Lili.” The name Lilibet is growing on me a lot. It’s like Archie. A bit surprising at first, not what anyone expected, but lovely and I’m sure we’ll start to see Baby Sussex as a natural Lilibet, owning the name and putting her own stamp on it, instead of thinking of her as a baby that has the Queen’s name.
@AmyToo I agree with you in that I would have preferred just “Lili” as well. However, I am enjoying the thought of all of the heads that exploded all over the UK today 🙃
The one thing we were all right about is that once again, they succeeded in surprising everyone with an unexpected name!
I think some on here are being a bit insincere. I don’t think there should be any added pressure to any name actually, but it was a concern of a fair amount of people the names shouldn’t be too royal or after any royal, but maybe Diana as a middle name just not a first. Which honestly kind of bummed me out a bit as I think Diana is a pretty name and it would be nice to see it live in the next generation. Yes, as I stated already I think it was nice that H&M didn’t use all of Charlotte’s names. I realize the Earl of Spencer did use Charlotte’s names and it bugs me a bit. I was also hoping for Spencer. Meghan’s suits co-stars wife played a part in Pretty Little Liars where the girl was named Spencer, and I think that would be unique and nice to his mother.
Still, even to those who are not a fan of the name they chose, you have to admit it is far from the worst name we have seen used by a famous person for their child. So let it be, it’s their choice.
What pressure are you talking about?! William and Harry were always going to use “Diana” for their daughters one day, because their mother is, dead. Sheesh. The name “Elizabeth” is used already within the family.
I figured early June for the birth. I know she shows quite a bit to the point people thought Archie would be born in March but she looked like she was comfortably in her 2nd trimester when they announced her pregnancy so early June made sense to me.
As for names, agreed that Diana wasn’t a surprise. A tribute to the queen wasn’t one either really but I didn’t predict Lilibet. The Sussexes have both made it clear they’ve got nothing but respect and love for the queen and blame the institution more than it’s members. I think a few people predicted “Lily”. Lili going by a nickname might be a nod to Harry who’s Henry but goes by his nickname. But I also know going by nicknames is common.
Anyways congrats to the family! Hope they get to enjoy it all!
I agree– based on Oprah interview, my suspicion is due date was late May/early June.
The name is nice, but really what makes it extra is it low-key trolls the Windsors– like it’s a way of saying “you will not erase us [the Montecitos] from this lineage.” What a claim to Diana, too, a month before the whole statue unveiling! Even if Harry doesn’t go to London, his daughter’s name clearly signals honor for his mother. I know the british press will try, but you can’t claim Harry dishonoring Diana not attending when his own daughter is named after her.
Yup, I thought she was due late may/early June, so this fits with that.
I am really surprised at the name – did not expect a nod to betty AND Diana – but it’s pretty and Lili is a lovely name.
I also predicted May/early June….I think a few other people predicted it after the Oprah interview.
I am so happy for H&M…..for Meghan first because she gave birth with not the useless noise coming from that island! for H because he is finally a girl dad….
I also figured that since her book launches in two weeks that baby would either be born late may early June, or late June early July but that seemed far too late. I wonder if Meghan will do any press/publicity for her book? Or if it will be a sort of joint baby talk/book publicity thing. Like people will want to ask her about the baby and such and if she’s already doing press for the book and has a main thing to focus on with that, then she can drop little tidbits about the baby and the family of four dynamic but still be able to guide the conversation back to the book so that it’s not constant baby questions and demands for pictures and sussex baby news. They’ll be providing press about a tangible real actual book that she presumably wants to talk about so maybe there won’t be tons and tons of speculative articles written about the birth and baby like there would be if house sussex was just completely quiet for the next few weeks?
@Amy Too
The Bench goes public this Tuesday, June 8. H&M are now on paternal leave…..wont be doing any public-facing events. But I do believe tht tmrw we’ll see whatever press she did BEFORE giving birth. I’m almost absolutely sure tht we’ll be seeing something on the network morning shows (CBS/Gayle; Today/no idea who’s on tht show…hopefully NOT savanaDaSaltyBitch guthrie…and ABC/hopefully Robin.)
I said launch, but I think I got that confused with the usual time for doing publicity which is the couple of weeks after a launch. I remember people talking about how middle of June would be book tour publicity time. But yeah, of course it makes sense the actual book would launch before the publicity interviews.
That’s interesting about parental leave. I guess they honestly don’t even need her to do any publicity for this book, preorders sold out on Amazon the same day they became available. I bet the book will sell out quickly as well. Maybe she’s pre-recorded some things for it though?
Someone predicted Lilibet in the comments but I forget which post. Maybe the one where the media thought it would be Pippa. I am surprised but not really. The nickname version of Elizabeth matches how Archie is also a name that’s normally a nickname.
I love the name, but didn’t expect them to actually use it. Thought it was just another weird rumour.
Anyway, congrats to them! I’m sure the Queen will be touched
I love the name. Archie and Lili sound great together.
Almost could’ve been “Archie and Bettie” (if they used the “bet” part of Lilibet) 😄 Gotta say, I do prefer Lili.
I’m sure the haters will refer to them as Archie and Bettie, because that’s how the haters are.
If they went with Archie and Betty, they would have gone FULL Archie comics. Which, deep down, I think that’s what Meghan was secretly thinking as she was a huge fan of the comics growing up.
😜
Ahaha oh no!! Please not Archie and Betty! I didn’t even think about that.
Well, “Lili” immediately made me think of Lili Reinhart, who plays… Betty on Riverdale, so there’s still a connection there.
Me, too! Love Lili Diana —so pretty. Huge congratulations to this beautiful family. May they all be happy and healthy. ❤️
Despite what many think, the men in grey are running the show, not the queen,
Love the name Lili.
If im completely honest im not to found of lilibeth but lili is a cute name. Wish they simply went with that one.
Anyways congrats to them. And i hope both are healthy and happy
Yeah, me too. “Lilibet” just feels a bit over the top. I would have stuck with a simple “Lili.” However, she is not my baby to name and as long as baby and mother are healthy, it’s all good. I also noticed there were no leaks to DM, so I think we can all assume that Will & Kate (and possibly no one in the UK) were not notified until just before the official statement.
Same here. Lili is fine but Lilibet… Anyway congrats to them. I hope TQ will notice that. Finally after all of the articles and interviews Harry seemed to be dissappointed w/ his father more than w/ everyone else.
Also a bit disappointed that there’s no nod to Doria. She’s been an absolute rock to the both of them.
Me too, I do love the name Lili I think it goes really well with archie. But I don’t like lilibet mostly cos I’m petty towards the queen. I think they should have just gone with Lili officially, but atleast the baby will go by that.
I’m so happy our Princess has arrived healthy and all are happy and well!!!
Oooh!!! Baldemort is incandescent with rage rn!!!! Both Grandmother names!!! He’s ticked as a mofo I’ll bet
CONGRATULATIONS SUSSEXES!!!!
If he could be assured that they would have a girl, he might just get Keen pregnant again just to one-up Harry and Meghan.
Except that Charlotte’s full name is Charlotte Elizabeth Diana. So W&K got there first.
Not really, Charlotte is a Middleton and Windsor name. And the Sussexes used the QE II nickname as the first name with Diana the second name not the third name. Uncle Charles Spencer named his daughter Charlotte Diana.
Zara, Louise and Beatrice ALSO have Elizabeth in their middle names. They got there before the Cambridges. Actually Anne has the middle name Elizabeth so Elizabeth beat everyone to the punch before it was a thing.
Well, hold your horses.
After all, Will & Kate named their daughter “Charlotte Elizabeth Diana”.
So William will be incandescent and leak he thinks Harry and Meghan ‘stole’ their daughter’s name. Like their weird attempt to steal Archie’s name by claiming George used it as a nickname. Earl Spencer named one of his daughters Charlotte Diana a few years before W&K had a daughter.
Yeah, there’s going to be a lot of “How dare a man name his daughter after his grandmother and mother” nonsense, isn’t there? And, of course, all the other girls in the family already cantering about bearing the name Diana or Elizabeth will be conveniently forgotten. I’m off to make popcorn and enjoy the screaming and frothing at the mouth.
@Kelly, they did and personally I found it problematic back then. I’m from a big family and there was an understanding that no one person could implement more than one of the great/grandparents names into a child’s name. It was important to leave room for siblings to work in beloved names. Obviously, not royal. But it was sketchy to me then…..leaving one to believe that William & Kate are the a&&holes to do that and thinking Harry wouldn’t marry and have children. So, no biggie to me. I’m just shocked that Will & Kate didn’t work in one of Princess Michael of Kent’s names into their children’s names considering they seem to be on the same page with her.
I just wished Meghan had a name representing her as well ,her kids names are full Windsors and Spencers.And Archie was supposedly named after one of Harrys friends.
Agree. They’re doubling and tripling down on royal connections. Interesting choice in light of how badly Meghan was treated…
The Sussexes have made it clear that they like the queen and have no issues with her. It’s the institution and the courtiers that they have an issue with.
“Doubling down on royal connections” – You mean his grandmother and mother? Whether people like it not, Harry is related to these people and they’re his family so yes, the Sussexes can and will continue to mention the royals.
I think it makes sense when you consider the fact that the baby will likely have little connection to the family except for the name. Meghan gets to live in her homeland and raise the kids as American. Harry gets the names lol.
Yes, but they have taken such a stance against the treatment of that way of life. By all means honor your mother and grams. I just find it interesting that Meghan’s mother and roots aren’t involved as well. Not unexpected but I won’t go further because that’s not the type of post for this.
Elisabeth and Diana are His family…but why didn’t Meghan include her mother or her family? Courtiers and the institution have been put in place by Lilibeth and now we know in the 60 she didn’t want hiring diverse ppl in higher rankings in her palace…Well it’s her daughter,she does what she wants…
She has said she has no issues with the Queen, Phillip, Diana, and Harry.
( and these are the people Archie and Lilli are named after) Harry and Meghan stress that they are a team so I am sure Meghan was fine with this
Again, the Sussexes have made it clear that they have no issues with the queen and see her as a loving grandmother.
Their issue is with the institution and the courtiers and for H&M, there’s a line between the family and the firm. We can argue and say there isn’t one (and I won’t disagree with that) but that is how H&M feel and as a fan, I get why they have those feelings even if I don’t necessarily agree with it.
@ Sophia you are right and like Victoria said,it’s not the type of post for this so congrats to Meghan and Harry
Maybe Lilli is personal for Meghan and Doria. We don’t know. Maybe Meghan wasn’t crazy about any of the names on her moms side of the family. I know I wasn’t when I named my kids. That doesn’t mean I love my mom any less. It’s a name Meghan and Harry like.
Archie and Lili have dual nationality. They will be raised in the US but they also have strong connections to the UK, including being in the line of succession. It was made clear when Archie was born that he would be raised to understand his dual heritage.
Meghan really can’t do anything right, can she?
Doria is there helping to raise the kids unlike Elizabeth or Diana. They left and came back to California specifically for that, among other reasons.
Their issue is not with the Queen. In any case how feel about her is their business only. Naming their child after her nickname is a far cry from endorsing the Royal establishment which they are no longer part of.
They can name their children what they want.
End of story.
This was in no way intended to say “Meghan can’t do anything right.” I notice how you have chosen to twist my comment that’s critical of how the institution and royal family treated Meghan into some kind of a blanket condemnation of Meghan.
The royal family, as well as the institution, were hurtful. Just today we had a post on Sophie and Edward laughing at Oprah and an interview where Meghan talked about being suicidal. Obviously you can’t disentangle family from institution… the queen is both. Harry clearly loves her and Meghan’s expressed positive feelings as well. That’s their prerogative. Harry and Meghan were both clearly prepared to support the institution (until his family kicked them out).
But I don’t feel like pretending today. I’m not going to pretend the royal family is wonderful. I’m also not going to pretend the queen is some compassionate visionary who deserves this honor. If you all want to live in some imaginary space in your heads where the queen is just a sweet little old granny, I can’t stop you.
But remember this is the same woman who prevented people of color from her “empire” from having any job other than servant in her household until VERY recently. And I’m extremely tired of the weird ass idea I see a lot here that none of the moral responsibility is hers because she was controlled by puppet masters among her staff. She’s the reigning queen of England. If she wants for example to protect a pedophile son, she has the power. I love how she only doesn’t have power when it comes to treating Black and brown people like human beings. But she has power for protecting Andrew and protecting her shady money. Okay!
I wasn’t actually even replying to you (where is your first comment anyway? Are you using different names perhaps?🤔), but it’s a very very large stretch to pretend that using the Queen’s private nickname is an official endorsement of the reign of Elizabeth II and everything she stands for. That’s like saying the Sussexes endorse Prince Andrew because they’re close to Eugenie.
I don’t like Elizabeth either, so why you’re assuming everyone here does or that that is even the crux of the issue is beyond me.
Harry and Meghan don’t work for said monarch or represent her and how they have chosen to name their child in a topical nod to one of her grandmothers is absolutely nobody’s business. It’s not a betrayal of Meghan’s mother nor does it show a lack of principles. It’s a baby name. Everything else is projecting.
Do Sussex fans all have their kids named after some family member? I know I don’t and I’m really baffled by all this hand wringing about no Doriana or whatever in Lili’s name. I have 5 kids of my own and only my eldest son was named after my late brother but the other four of them? None is named not after me nor their father and certainly not after ANY family member on either side.
Maybe Meghan isn’t into that naming kids this or that name; and its Harry that is mostly wanting to name the kids after this and that person, and Meg is like meh, whatever, IDC. Y’all know they’re Harry’s kids too, right? The Sussexes act as a team, they make decisions as a team, and they name their kids as a team of a mother and father that love their kids. Whatever name they chose should be okay people.
Everything you all said! Harry’s side was important enough to name your daughter after, yet, no one on Meghan’s side? Beginning to wonder if they were really treated THAT bad. Colonialism wins again🙄
LOL, yeah, I can just see Harry thinking “Hm, how best can I publicly defend the behavior of Winston Churchill during the Bengal famine? I know, I’ll name my kid after my grandmother’s private family nickname and her day to day name will be completely different!”
@Bamaborn: Seriously? They named their daughter after a woman they have no personal issue with and you’ve decided to start questioning Meghan’s experiences and say she’s exaggerating?
You know you’ve got issues when fans start acting like tinhats.
They aren’t fans, lol.
It’s fine to not like the name even if I personally think whining about it on the birth announcement is tacky, but people are really acting like Doria is their mother or something…or worse implications!
@Maria While I know some people aren’t fans, there are some regular posters in this comment thread acting up, including some of the ones I’m replying to.
Oh yes, some are regular posters (even if others are not).
But if a baby name is enough to disappoint them I don’t know if fan is the right word…
I did a quick Google search on this out of curiosity.
Meghan’s great-great aunt was a Lillie Ragland, who was a college dropout that managed to become an extremely wealthy realtor in LA active in community improvement (since she was born in 1913 this was obviously no small feat). She died when Meghan was 22, so Meghan knew her.
So this may be that connection to both their families – maybe she and Meghan were close. But I don’t know for sure and it’s obviously none of my business really.
I Get what @Hanna is saying and think Maria and other commentators are being deliberately obtuse. Archie and his sister are not just any royal babies. They are the first royal babies of mixed heritage as was stated by Meghan in the Oprah interview. The fact that none of the children have any ties to their African American heritage, as such historically important babies, is sad. Period. It IS disappointing. That there is specifically one child with a name to honor TQ who presided over a racist institution, even after Meghan’s racist abuse is disappointing to black people. Period. Even if that is Meghan and Harry’s right to do, it disappointing. Anyone acting like it isn’t is on a somewhat fantasy cloud.
I don’t see it as a right or wrong, as all sentiments are valid and true. It sucks. And people who feel this way are no less fans for being triggered over this. Representation matters. We are in the trenches pushing back against the racist abuse Meghan endured, it is disappointing to feel like the black heritage of these children are not held in as equally in high regard as the white side in the symbolic gestures that have played out. Those are just facts.
It is complicated. Acting like it isn’t is such BS. Even if M didn’t like any of the names on the black side, which is valid and understandable, that isn’t going to diminish the way the negative vibe (erasure of symbolism honoring the black heritage) hits a person in reality. These are royal children of mixed heritage. They are not some average family. This is not some average marriage. It’s Meghan put commonwealth flowers on her veil and a California poppy.
I think it’s deliberately obtuse to pretend that this family owes you or anyone else anything in terms of this baby’s name because of your own personal perception of her significance.
As I stated above, there is a Lillie in Ragland family heritage. Whether or not Lili is a way to reference her as well, I don’t know. But the point is you also don’t know that either. You have absolutely no idea what is paying tribute to her Black family or not. And they are her family, not yours.
Representation matters in things for public consumption. The baby is not for public consumption. Her parents are public figures so they announced her birth but that doesn’t mean she is one.
No, not all opinions are valid if people are going to pretend Meghan is somehow upholding racism and colonialism by using a family nickname. It is no different from linking her avocado toast to terrorism.
Saying that it’s disappointing even if Meghan just didn’t like the names on her Black side is so entitled.
Her entire wedding was a tribute to her heritage and that was for public consumption. You seem to have forgotten this. How they raise their children is their business.
@Noki I had a similar thought. It’s a pretty name but I do wonder why neither of the children’s names reflect Meghan’s family (her mother’s side). Maybe they do but it was just never made public. I can’t remember Archie’s full name. Either way, congrats to them and wishes for health and happiness to mom and baby and rest of family.
My take is that those children are going to have a very close relationship with Granny Doria. Their names are as close as they might get to the rest of their family.
My niece, first granddaughter on my side, has no names connected to my side of the family. First name is her maternal grandmothers name and middle name is maternal great grandmother’s name. Its fine. I like her name And she is just as much a part of my side of the family as her mother’s side of the family.
FFS Meghan wasn’t left out in the naming decision. This is a name they chose together. If Meghan had wanted a different name, or a third name with a name from her side, it would have been in there.
Agreed. Like I said above — Doria is the grandparent who will be hands-on and love on those grandkids. She will get to help mold and influence them. Much more important than having a child named after her. The Sussexes are smart and knew what they were doing when they named THEIR child.
@Nota Oh have some class. No one said she was left out of anything,the majority expressed why they wished Meghan also had a name from her side and said it respectfully. I think we all know Meghan is smart and strong enough to have added whatever name she saw fit. We were simply saying as fans ‘it would have been nice.’
Oh lord, not another one of those. Tiring this constant hand-wringing that somehow Meghan is being left out, Harry shouldn’t have married her if he really loved her, Harry is to blame for everything, etc.
If she wanted a name from her side of the family in there, there would have been one. You’re taking offense on Meghan’s part for something that clearly doesn’t offend her.
Honestly, swirlmamad it is obvious to some of us but others seems to be spinning off on tirades. If Meghan had wanted different names for her daughter, the daughter would have different names. This is a choice they made together, not any slight towards Meghan or not having Ragland family names in there.
@notasugarhere – first, longtime lurker here, have loved your screen name for years, glad to finally get to tell you 🙂 second, I think most of us get that Meghan 100% had a say in the names, we are not doubting that. Cute names, again wishing mom and baby and family happiness and health
@ notasugarhere, yes!! Meghan and Harry are a team in every possible way.
Had Meghan wanted a family name represented, she would have been included. But, as we all know, TQ holds a special place for them both and TQ is not in control, and hasn’t been for quite some time. In addition, she has been fed lies and has been manipulated by those around her.
We should all spend this time congratulating the happy family of four, instead of questioning their choices.
I am extremely happy for Harry and Meghan, and to hear that everyone is home and Lili was born healthy is all that matters! May all the days that follow bring them the joy, happiness and love that they deserve!!
AND her name will be on Lili’s birth certificate, unlike on Salty Isle, where her name was removed!!
@Noki, I get what you are saying. I was adamant they would have something in their name from my side. But my husband is not heir to the throne of England. But still………..
One of the most important things is that this time Meghans name will be on her childs birth certificate.
@BritdDebbie so even as of today her name is still on on Archies birth certificate. I hopes that they changed it after they left.
Perhaps Meghan wanted to include Harry’s family in the name because she carried the baby and has her mom around all the time now. I think it’s lovely. My mom gave me a middle name after my dad’s side of the family, but she wanted to do that. It has never felt like my mom is missing out because her family isn’t included in my name. She loved the significance.
OMG. Huge congrats to the Sussexes! Lilibet is eh, but Lili is such a cute name, especially with Diana. Lili Diana sounds so delicate and pretty.
It’s a lovely name. I expect the royal reporters are in a total meltdown trying to find the negative spin.
Whatever it is, I’m sure it’ll start out as “How dare they….!
Anyway, congratulations on the new bundle of joy. Lili Diana is a beautiful name.
I love Lilli. Not a huge fan of Lilibet as a legal name. It has a very cutsey nickname feel.
I’d call it a bit “twee”, but it’s Harry’s grannie’s nickname, so it’s okay. I love Lili though. So classic and simple. Archie and Lili = Awwwwww!
“Lilibet” is Queen Elizabeth’s nickname from childhood. She named herself that because she couldn’t pronounce her own name. Now that Philip is dead, there is no one left who calls her by that nickname anymore. The grandchildren and great grandchildren call her “Gan Gan”.
I wish they hadn’t used it because it’s a nickname, plus Will & Kate already used both “Elizabeth” and “Diana” as Charlotte’s two middle names.
I thought Lilibet came about because Margaret couldn’t pronounced Elizabeth?
Nonsense. Why should the Sussexes have to be restricted by what the Cambridges named their daughter?
Kelly, Lilibet is not anything like Elizabeth. I always assumed that they would name their daughter with a nickname just as they did Archie. I think it’s cute, but I doubt it will be used much except on legal documents. She’ll be called Lili.
I don’t know why anyone would find this name inappropriate in any way. She’s their daughter and they can name her whatever they wish. I for one am just happy for them and wish them lots of happiness. If you don’t like the name, I suggest you keep it to yourself and just be happy for them.
I know the origin of the name. Still don’t like it as a proper legal name. I think legally calling her Lili would have been sweet and gone well with Archie.
@Saucy – when did you become the moderator? I’m allowed to have an opinion, or else what are we doing here?
Kelly, of course you can and do have an opinion. I don’t understand why people can’t just be happy for H&M without nitpicking their choices. That’s the only issue i have. I don’t pretend to be a moderator, and I’m not sure where that comment came from.
You know who else has the middle name Elizabeth? Anne. Zara. Beatrice. Louise.
I have a cousin whose legal first name is Davy, because his mother didn’t like the name David. He’s hated that since like age eight.
Lucky Charm, I know two men–one in his 50s the other in his 70–named Bobby and Jimmy. That’s what they’re called and never think anything of it. If Davy doesn’t like his name, couldn’t he just call himself Dave? Pretty easy to fix, don’t you think? Lilibet is cute and is H&M’s choice. I’m just happy for them.
He can apply for a name change if he really loathes that name.
Same. This will be an unpopular opinion, but I think it’s kind of rude to use Lilibet. It’s so personal & intimate, so specific to one person. There is not a lot of independence from the RF in that name choice.
Jesé, 🤦🏽♀️. Why is it rude. Trolls are out today
@Gingerbee: if you want to see some trolls, read the comments on the Daily Mail. (P.S. Have a barf bucket handy.)
Seriously @Gingerbee. What is it with the trolls?
I guess I’ll let my husband know it was rude of his parents to name him after a beloved grandparent (eyeroll).
Carmen, it seemed as though those trolls escaped from the Daily Heil. I do not give that racist rag any click.
I’m sure the Queen is thrilled and they would have asked her permission before making it public. It’s called respect. Since when does a name reflect a lack of independence from the BRF? Trolls gotta troll I guess.
SO it’s unpopular because you’re a troll. Go back to the Heil and be with your tribe.
Her name is Lili and she’s a member of the royal family. Stick that in Heil comments
Are you positive that Harry and Meghan didn’t discuss this with Elizabeth and Elizabeth was delighted with it? If not, sit down
Aww. So happy for them and that Meghan & babe are doing well.
Not loving the formal name, but I do love “Lili Diana”. Wishing her much happiness and love in her life.
Congratulations to the happy parents, and Big Brother Archie! I hope they’ll all have a wonderful time settling in as a family of four! ❤️
So happy for them! (And I predicted the name 🙂 What wonderful news. Long Life and happiness to M&H and A&L. Mazel Tov!
That’s my birthday (and Angelina Jolie’s, haha)! Welcome, fellow Gemini! Congrats to the family.
Lili and Archie – perfect!
Congratulations to them. Until I watched the crown I had not known that QEII’s nickname. It is a nice and unique name that honors QEII in a personal way. Love it.
Beautiful! All the best wishes to them all!
Lol the sun was right 😂😂😂😂
Lol forever at the weak trolls who would rather hate a baby than confront their own racism. All trolls are stupid, but racist trolls are the worst in terms of what they are capable of comprehending.
Lili Mountbatten-Windsor, welcome!
I was expecting a late June birth (just around the Summer solstice) but I think second babies sometimes have a tendency to come earlier ? Not sure
I believe Meghan was due around this time. She asked for the trial in her lawsuit to be delayed around mid October last year, so it checks out. She probably got pregnant in early September.
Isn’t The Bench also out today or tomorrow? Her lack of more public promo for the book maybe should have given us a clue about how close her due date was.
I wasn’t expecting this today 😁. Congratulations to the Sussexes and little Archie 💞. Lili Diana is awesome and totally unexpected.
And thank god they could do this this time on their own terms without the media circus. Imagine announcing that you’re going into labor?
Anyway lot’s of love and happiness to the new Sussex family of four 💓🥳
Yes!! Love that the birth was kept secret until they were ready to announce and safely home.
Congratulations to Harry, Meghan and Archie! I like the name.
I think it’s a pretty name! Lovely and elegant. Congrats!
I dislike nicknames as names but clearly they disagree lol. At least it wasn’t Philippa.
Agree and agree!
Glad the wee baby arrived safely and all are happy and healthy
I was hoping she’d be born on my birthday in late June, but 6/4 was my grandma’s birthday so I don’t mind! I don’t know how I feel about the name- on one hand, it’s unique, on the other hand it feels like pandering. Archie and Lili sound cute together!
Or maybe it’s just a grandson’s tribute to his grandma. They know the true nature of the relationship and what transpired. I have a very special relationship with my grandma so I tend to assume everyone loves their grandma the way I love mine.
Pandering. That’s exactly how it feels to me, unfortunately.
Pandering just like W and K did for Charlotte (Prince Charles) Elizabeth (Queen) Diana (W & H’s mother) right? Or is that honoring your family?
For what purpose? It’s not like association with the Queen will be advantageous for a long time since she is 95 and not really in control at the palace anymore. Pandering for long-term use would have to be to Charles or Will.
Pandering? They don’t have to pander to anyone, that has become abundantly clear over the past year. They appear to have genuine love and respect for the Queen and it shows how they’ve risen above all the spiteful, racist, vicious treatment by TOB, Keen, other family members, courtiers and grey men, and the tabloids.
Give it up SO.. we all see you. It’s Harry’s grandmother and tthey’ve always been close. Most of the girls in that family have Elizabeth in their name. Even saint Kate’s daughter who also has Diana.
Unfortunately? Fortunately for you, they could give a fig what you think. Obvious troll is obvious.
“Pandering”.
I think you guys are lost. This is not the Mail.
LOL! Maybe they’re delirious from going back and forth from too many places and need directions back to their homeland?
Pandering to whom?? I highly doubt they would choose their daughter’s name based on a PR strategy. C’mon, get some sense. It’s their daughter’s name… that she will have forever.
And if you think they’re pandering to the family… I believe two things have been pretty clear: (1) they have absolutely no desire to return to the UK or the family in any meaningful way, and (2) the public has absolutely no idea what really happens behind closed doors/what the relationship between TQ and the Sussexes is actually like.
Loveee Lili, hate lilibet. I think Diana as a middle name was to be expected. Really glad they didn’t use it as a first name. Way too much pressure for a child of theirs. Meg finally has a little lady to even things out. Congrats to the Sussexes!
i did suspect all along that she said the baby was due in the summer partly to throw people off and surprise us.
i did expect, though, that they might wait a couple of weeks before announcing – on their podcast or something! idk.
anyway, congratulations to harry and meghan – they deserve all the joy!
Awwww. So happy to hear Lili has joined the world safely.
Awwww yaaaay!!!! I’m so, so happy for them and I love the name Lili! Wonderful news!
Calling the girl after petty Betty!
Steph, No they named her after a grandmother who is loved. I suspect that she and Meghan got along well, too. We saw them together so very little that we don’t know what went on behind the scenes. I think naming their daughter Lilibet tells us that Meghan only has positive feelings about TQ.
Agreed! Yes. Time for me to stop calling Queen Elizabeth Petty Betty!
I’ve been calling her Petty Betty in my mind for a long time now, maybe this is a signal from Harry and Meghan that that they don’t consider her petty. Harry has indicated it’s the men and grey and his father and you know, incandescent, so I’m giving up petty betty from now on. If she were, they would never have named Lili after her.
And she’s a Gemini!
Lilibet is not a great name.
Apparently her parents think otherwise (as do many of us CBers) and that’s what matters most.
I had guessed that she’d have the baby in late May. She looked quite far along in the last released photos.
I really like Lilibet, and of course Diana. Lovely name.
This was earlier than I thought, but congratulations to the little family! Gemini’s rock!!! Wishing them nothing but joy and happiness. I am surprised both granddaughters (Charlotte and Lili) have almost the same name, Charlotte Elizabeth Diana and now Lilibet Diana. Welcome to the world little princess.
Beautiful! So many trolls who say they loathe them and call them irrelevant are first in line commenting, LOL!
I will be looking for a charity for children or women nearby to donate, I haven’t done so in a while.
I am cackling at all of the new posters on this thread who suddenly have something to say about a stranger’s baby’s name, but never a peep from them on the numerous articles exposing the BRF’s racism, hypocrisy, etc., etc.
Congrats to House Sussex on the new addition!
Yep, the trolls are all out today.
Yup….so many never-before-seen names with so many snide comments. It was to be expected, sadly.
Ugggh… what’s cringy about “Lilibet” is that it’s not just a nickname, it’s obviously one of those nicknames that comes about because the young sibling can’t pronounce the name. It’s like if you have a baby Alex and his toddler brother calls him “A-wex” and then later on down the line someone names a descendant “A-wex” as their legal name. Just no. Thankfully they have the Lilli nickname because Lilibet is toooo cringy.
@Lola agreed. I would’ve just gone with Lily and stated that it was in honor of the Queen’s nickname.
No, that’s not the origin at all! It was Philip’s pet name for his wife, the queen.
@LovesitinNM: It is the origin — “The Queen was known affectionately as ‘Lilibet’ by her parents and grandparents while she was growing up as she was unable to say ‘Elizabeth’ at a young age, with her father, King George VI, even once saying: “Lilibet is my pride. Margaret is my joy.” Philip continued to use it as an affectionate nickname for her.
I thought Philips nickname for her was cabbage or potato or something.
He did call her cabbage sometimes, perhaps like the petite chou affection of the French?
I love Lilibet though I would never ever use it for a child of mine. It’s a little strange that it’s a nickname buuut it’s giving me a real upper class , or maybe boarding school English vibe like the expected Poppy, or Daisy or Bunny, or like Fifi Trixibelle Geldof. A child this famous and high profile could handle a name like this…. at once modern and also semi historical because of the Queen.
I feel so shallow.
My first thought, of course, was happiness and joy for the family and relief that mom and baby are safely home.
But my second, super shallow thought was that TOB, Keen Guevara and the gray old men must be enraged, engorged, apoplectic about the name. 🤣
Why would they be upset about the name?
Will & Kate named their daughter, “Charlotte Elizabeth Diana”.
Because as William has shown, he only wants himself and his family to be remembered as Diana’s son and grandchildren. Kate feels the same way too (dressing her second son in Harry’s old baby clothes!) The rest do not want that distinction on Harry’s mixed-race wife and children.
The name is beautiful ❤️
Because W&K might think they have the ‘sole rights’ to names like Elizabeth and Diana, because they named their daughter first. Of course, Earl Spencer named one of his daughters Charlotte Diana a few years before W&K had a daughter.
@nota, I read a lot of old British detective fiction, and the characters are always calling each other fish,, sausage, potato or whatever inanimate object pops into their heads. A British friend of mine calls one of her friends “Trout”.
Congrats to Harry and Meghan on the safe arrival of their daughter! ❤️
They named their daughters on the same lines: Charlotte Elizabeth Diana vs Lilibet Diana.
I’m so terrible my first thought was “WE HAVE A BABY GIRL!” and then had to calm myself down because I was absolutely in no way involved. But I’m so very happy for them and hope they continue to do well.
I am not expecting anything but I’d love to see a picture one day of Archie holding baby Lili. Especially if he is anything like my niece who would not stop talking about how excited she was to hold her cousin (my son). She held him for 15 seconds and was bored and the picture really shows it!
So when are we going to get a report about someone in the royal family getting their knickers in a twist because HM stepped on their news cycle/choose the wrong name or pretty much didn’t ask them when would be good time for Meghan to give birth?
One royal message board is already spewing hatred about how harry and Meghan waited until today to announce because Charles had an event today. Also that it was disrespectful for thrm to use the queen’s nickname after all they did to the queen and royal family
I really like the name. I think Meghan & Harry are both fairly sentimental, so this makes sense. And it confirms to me that they both maintained warm relationships with the Queen, who I suspect was able to be a better grandmother than she was a mother. From that, plus what Harry alluded to in the Oprah interview, it seems clear that after 2017-when Philip retired & Geidt was ousted as the Queen’s private secretary-Charles was installed as a shadow regent.
But anyway, congratulations to Meghan, Harry & Archie!
I love this name! A tad twee but a lovely tribute to the family members they love and respect and a clear signal that they are still down with the Queen.
I really like Lilibet.
Both kids given nicknames as names…I think that’s Meghan’s influence.
I’m so happy! I hope we get a shot of a baby foot or hand!
Yeah it’s interesting that they both have nickname first names. The informality contrasts with the rigid formality of the institution. I can see why they wouldn’t do Elizabeth Diana because its too similar with Charlotte but at the same time it seems purposeful beyond just that. They are not necessarily honoring Queen Elizabeth of the monarchy and the institution but Lilibet, the woman and grandmother outside of the firm and all the pomp and pageantry.
Excellent comment. I hadn’t noticed that both children were named usual nicknames. That really does feel like a breath of fresh air compared to the bland and royally expected Anne Elizabeth Francis Margaret Diana Victoria Mountbatten-Windsor.
@Jais..I absolutely love your last sentence. It’s a perfect sentiment.
Lilibet “Lili” Diana Mountbatten-Windsor.
😍 I’m really happy they named her after his mom. What a lovely tribute 💜💜💜
I don’t think that the Queen deserves the honor but Harry really loves his gran so…
this is exactly it tho… they are naming her after his grandmother. not the queen, the person.
Lilibet is a cute name, but it does sound childish. It’s somewhat hard to imagine an adult Lilibet, so I’m glad she can fall back on Lili as she gets older. Also, Mountbatten-Windsor is such a ridiculously posh surname, isn’t it? Almost to the point of parody. It does kinda make me think of the Upper Class Twit of the Year sketch (not that either of Harry and Meghan’s children will ever be like that!).
They didn’t “tack on” Mountbatten-Windsor as some made-up afterthought, it’s actually the personal surname used by some of the male-line descendants of TQ and Philip, even those without royal titles.
Oh, I know! I just meant that if OTHER people, without any claim to that surname, were to tack it on, it would make almost any name sound posh.
They’re using their legal surname. If they used Sussex instead of Mounbatten-Windsor, that would no doubt upset the swarm of haters.
I think they fully intend on calling her Lili most of the time, which is a great name for a child or adult.
Super pretty name. I like how Lili is spelled, and how it sounds with Archie. I’m sure G-grandma is chuffed!
I actually really like Lili! And you know what….no matter what we THINK happened between the Sussexes and the RF…. at the end of the day Harry and Meghan clearly do NOT hold blame against TQ, and that is their right to do so, especially as they are the only ones who truly know what happened and who were the ones responsible for what they were put through. So if they chose to honor her, I respect that. If they like it I love it and all that matters is that they have a healthy, happy baby girl to match their happy, healthy boy.
I think it’s a lovely name and congrats to Harry and Meghan. So happy for them. “Fans “ need to take a deep breath. Obviously H&M have a close relationship with the Queen and have honored her and Diana. That’s their right as parents to name their child as they see fit. And honestly NO ONE but Harry and Meghan know the details/truth of their relationship with the Queen. We’re all outsiders looking in. Folks need to chill with the bashing.
This is true! And Lili IS a pretty name.
+1. I love Lili…blessings on the Sussex family.
Am especially happy that they were able to announce the birth in their own time.
Congrats to Meghan and Harry!
I love the fact the announcement was embargoed for two days after the birth and announced with their dual royal cypher. Lili won’t have HRH (now) and the right to be recognized as a British princess of the blood. Or Lilies could forgo all that because being born in the US she is eligible to run for president in 35 years.
That’s my favourite part. The uk tabloids had no clue for days and the notice came out at 5 pm UK time after the deadline for the UK papers. Meanwhile the US and Canadian media will be able to cover it.
Congrats to the Sussexes! Name your daughter whatever you like. When she gets older she might choose something different, like using Diana instead, or she might keep Lilibet – it will be up to her.
Not what I would have guessed!
Honestly, that’s a lot for a little girl to carry.
I don’t think this little girl will find it a lot to carry, she’s being raised by two strong, compassionate and caring people. I don’t think her name will be a burden at all. This little girl is going to shine no matter what she’s named.
How is Lili a lot to carry?
The fact that in the birth announcement they referred to her as Lili shows that that is what they plan to call her, and likely what she will always go by.
lunchcoma, why are you and others being negative? I like the name–it’s a nickname which is what Archie is and shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone. She’ll be called Lili. Tell, me is that a problem for you, too? BE HAPPY FOR THEM. I am.
They seem like nice people and good parents. I’m glad they have a healthy baby. I’m not a big fan of the name they picked, but taste in names varies.
It goes so well with Archie congrats on the birth and the charities they;ve suggested if people want to donate are just perfect!!
As far as I can tell, none of the royal SM accounts have acknowledged the birth yet. Are we thinking they were not told until today to avoid them leaking? You’d think they would have all had prepared posts ready to go as soon as the news hit. Those PR folks are, once again, looking stupid and helping the BRF look terrible.
Both the DM and the Sun claimed just yesterday that the baby was due on Philip’s birthday 😂 Those idiots had no idea which tells me that no one in the RF was told.
I bet you they were fed a false tip to throw them off. Now they’ve clowned themselves.
I bet none of them had a clue when her actual due date was. They were probably told this morning, well after the fact, that Meghan had given birth.
I agree! Bwahahahaaa!
Still, they knew she’d have the baby eventually–someone should have been waiting with finger on the button to post a congratulations the moment they heard the news. That they did not shows their passive aggressive behavior, which flies in the face of the lovely name that honors the monarch. *shakes head at how dumb the BRF continues to be*
They’re busy celebrating the anniversary of D-Day on their SM accounts.
They have since posted something. I have a feeling they knew from yesterday because I am sure the Queen was told yesterday but since Knauf isn’t around it was kept quiet.
While I agree that Lillibet sounds like one of those names children have trouble pronouncing, I feel this was the best way to honor Philip, Elizabeth, and Diana, all three of which were figures who clearly influenced Harry’s life on a major scale. I can’t think of any other name that could have the same effect.
And people that Meghan had some affinity with -otherwise the name would not have occured.
Yes! Lilibet honors the 3 royals that Harry had the closest/most special bond with. The more I see it and type it, the more it grows on me.
Congrats to them! This is great news and I’m happy both mother and baby are doing well! As for the name, I don’t like it. There I said it. My grandmother was “Lillian” so I like the name Lillie or lily or however you want to spell it. But Lilibet sounds like a nickname not a name that will age well as the child grows into adulthood imho. Also, I’m kinda sad Meghan didn’t incorporate a name that includes her family/heritage. While I know they have said they have no issue with TQ, at the same time she never made any attempt to curb Willies attacks against them either. So I’m very puzzled by this.
Lilibet was a nickname – her parents and grandparents started calling her that as a little girl because she couldn’t pronounce Elizabeth. Philip continued calling her that throughout their marriage. Lili/Lily/Lilly is a lovely name and has been popular for generations.
Someone mentioned Poppy, I so loved that name. Poppy Diana Doria and the rest. They made their choice, just so happy for them
Completely stunned. I like Lily not crazy about Lilbet – because that is a TRUE nod to Petty Betty. If that is really what will be on the BC.
Congrats to the happy family and I wish them all well. Happy news.
In a way the name honors Meghan and Doria because Doria called Meghan “Flower” and Lili is a flower.
I’m just so happy and RELIEVED that Meghan safely delivered a healthy baby girl!
Congrats to the Duke and Duchess of Sussex on the birth of their daughter. How they named their daughter is they own prerogative. How is the name pretentious, this is directed to one of the new poster above. 🤦🏽♀️
I love that so many anti-Sussex trolls are asking why Doria wasn’t honored. As if they weren’t still complaining about Doria’s nose ring and dreadlocks two weeks ago.
Honestly, I don’t think it’s a “troll” thing to wish Doria had been honored. That’s a big reach.
Kelly, I understand your view but since you are on this post taking issue with this name because the Cambridges already used the names Elizabeth and Diana I’m going to take your comments with a grain of salt.
And furthermore, if you will check the time stamp my comment was posted before many others (not all, but several, so the point stands) mentioning Doria and it is not directed at those who wished in good faith that Doria had been more explicitly honored (even though it’s still not their business), but to those who are using the “Black grandmother” as a stick to beat Meghan with, when up until now many of them have been very racist towards her (Daily Mail commenters etc). So, since I mentioned specifically “anti-Sussex trolls”, if that doesn’t apply to you, no need to answer.
Here’s one big way they honored Doria- they moved back to be with her and she will be part of the kids’ lives in the way Elizabeth and Diana will never be. Furthermore, it’s a “flower” name, and as Doria calls Meghan “flower”, it’s quite possibly a nod to her that way.
In any case, it is absolutely nobody’s business to criticize what Harry and Meghan and very probably Doria too decided on for the name.
Oh, it’s troll thing. All across SM and other sites almost as if it’s coordinated. These people don’t care about Doria at all. Just using it to bash Meghan.
Now if H&M’s Lili is anything like the Lily in our family, they are in for a treat 🙂
It’s as if Meghan had no say in choosing her own child’s name. It is Meghan’s prerogative to decide which names she wants and since she’s close to her mother we can assume she simply did not want to add Doria. It’s not like Harry decided and simply told Meghan. They both decided this and clearly Meghan is okay with this.
Dr.Shola are dragging those trolls on IG and Twitter, which they deserved.
Congratulations to Harry and Meghan! Hope mother and child are doing well and just hugs and kisses for the entire Sussex family. I like the name and Lili is such a lovely nickname. H&M have stated no pictures will be shared for awhile So I bet the Rota Rats are engorged with rage they can’t profit off Lili’s birth😂🤣
M+H and #sussexsquad to the rota rats “no money for youuuu!” 😂
Cue the so called royal reporters sending out articles about how Meghan and Harry’s choice of names personally affects them.
What’s also so beautiful is when you learn that on June 4 in 1996, Princess Diana visited Northwestern University which is Meghan’s alma mater. ❤️
Oh my god, she did???
My heart can’t take this ❤️
I searched for it and yes, she did.
https://news.northwestern.edu/stories/2018/may/princess-dianas-visit-to-northwestern-remembered-on-eve-of-royal-wedding
wow what an amazing connection between princess Di, Meghan her daughter in law& baby Lilli Diana’s granddaughter..
That is absolutely amazing!!! Harry said in “TMYCS” that he has never felt Diana’s presence more than he has over this past year or so since they left the UK and moved to CA. Talk about a sign (which I truly do believe in).
I really hate this name. I can understand the family significance and following their previous pattern of cutsie name, then a formal one but btwn the two Archie Harrison has the better name.
@watson most people hated the name archie when it was announced. Looking at him now, I can’t imagine any other name for him. So it is okay if you hate the name lilibet, not up to you , and you don’t have to worry about. It is a pretty name, and a unusual one, she will be special and will lead her personality to it, like big brother Archie.
@watson
PHEW!!!!! Thank God you had no say in the choice of name then, innit?
Totally! THANK GOD! It’s almost like they don’t care what I or anyone else thinks on this website!!! 😀
Not a fan of Lilibet at all, but Lili is a lovely name and it goes well with Archie. I wonder if they’ll release a picture?
A little gemini! I’m June 3rd so this makes me irrationally happy lol Angelina Jolie’s birthday is also the 4th, so little Lili is in good company.
So happy!
Wonderful news. Congratulations on ‘Lili’s birth to the Sussexes and especially Archie who is now a big brother.
Called it, sort of. I thought when they said summer that she looked too far along for late June, july and on. I mean babies come when they want but you know
Congrats to them and Archie for officially being a big brother now!!
I’m pretty sure most people are probably going to call her Lilli.
so happy for them!! i thought we would be due about the same time but i was due to be induced the ending of July.. so this news is a surprise! whats funny i call my baby Lili but its just short pet name for Liora ( i had her at 22 weeks. in April ..) so Lili is sweet but lilibet?! its kinda cute. Diana as a nod to harry’s mum is wonderful..
In the choice of Lilibet they are also again making a distinction between Harry’s grandmother they know privately and the Queen head of the institution. The courtiers were obviously blocking Harry from being able to get an audience with the Queen for a reason.
+1
I like the name. She’s going to be called Lili. It goes to show the issues that Harry and Meghan have are not with the Queen. She has been good to them on a personal level but she’s not in charge. I’m glad they were able to have Lili without anybody knowing.
Well, they did name their son “Archie,” which is also a nickname. I think it works. And I love the name Lili.
It is not a nickname for the many Scottish boys who are given that name 🤦🏽♀️
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Exactly, Gingerbee — And it’s not a nickname at all — it’s a shortened version of Archibald. People seem to be equating shortened versions of names with nicknames. A nickname would be “Lilibet”, or “John Boy”, or “Big Al”, or “Stumpy”, lol. The name Archie is a very common name amongst Scots everywhere.
This is a wonderful time for the Sussexes and two days before the book dropping! I can’t wait for a picture. Unfortunately the press will drag out Bad Dad to cry why he wasn’t informed and that Lili was not named after a Markle.
Im so happy that she was able to deliver on Friday and then had a couple of days to get home and settle in before they released it. (And the petty side of me is happy that they were able to avoid the Sunday papers and make the Sun and DM look dumb af for their stories on Friday claiming the baby was due on Phil’s birthday).
Tbh my initial reaction to the name wasnt great. Im not big on the Queen but we all know Harry adores her and Meghan has never had an issue with her either. But i was happy to see they already calling her Lili; Lili is a cute name that goes well with Archie and Lili Diana kind of reads like lil’ or little Diana which is adorable though at the end of the day it doesn’t matter what i think of the name since it’s not my kid lol. Also: im really happy they announced on the Archewell they are going on paternity leave so there is no expectation that Harry has to go back to Shutter Island in the next 6 weeks or so for whatevee event and they can enjoy this special time together privately as a family.
Oh I didn’t even think of the unveiling when I read about the parental leave! Great point – might be an indication that he is indeed not going to attend.
OOOH you’re right — he definitely isn’t going back for the unveiling since they are on parental leave. It’s a wrap then!
I really like the baby’s name. Lilibet actually sounds like a beautiful medieval name to me (yes, I realize it was a baby sister-created nickname for Elizabeth in reality). Lili is the perfect shortened version and it sounds great with Archie. I thought Archie was a weird choice but it’s grown on me. Hopefully Lilibet will grow on others.
People are saying it’s out of order to use someone else’s nickname. When I say people, I mean DM posters. The queen’s nickname was actually only used by a few close relatives and her nanny. I can’t imagine she’s been called it for decades, apart from by one of her cousins and closest friends. I think Philip’s name for her was another nickname entirely. I suspect Harry approached his grandmother and she gave her blessing. I’m in two minds as to whether I like it. But my opinion doesn’t matter. My happiness to hear of her safe arrival is more important.
Actually her cousins and other family members still use it. King Felipe and Queen Letizia addressed her as “Aunt Lilibet” in their condolence telegram when Philip died.
oh wow, this is sooner than I expected. Congrats to them!
While I was hoping for Alice, honestly, I think Lilibet is a pretty name just in general, without the context of it being a childhood nickname of the queen, but even with the context, I don’t see anything wrong with that at all. Lots of families legally name their kids nicknames from the older generations, or else you’d be running around with like 10 Elizabeths or Marys or whatever in the same generation. There’s a ridiculous number of variations on the name Elizabeth, besides it being one of the most common girls’ names in the world, and Lilibet is unique at least. And it has the double benefit of being directly tied to the family member she’s named in honor of, while also easily being shortened to “Lili”, which is obviously what they want to actually call her. And Diana is in there too, so it’s all cool.
I love 💕the names so sweet.
Congratulations 💐
How lovely! The name is adorable. And it’s not like Archie is a formal name either. It’s also a nickname. What a delight to hear the news on the couples’ terms, in their chosen timing. Well played, House of Sussex.
Thank you Nota. People want to act like Harry told Meghan she had no say in their daughters name, my God.
So true, Emma. Archie and Lili are names that are so ‘friendly’ sounding and ‘happy,’ too.
Also, Meghan told us the name months ago!! She wore the Armani dress with the white Lily for the interview- clever! Perhaps Harry and Meghan were able to share the naming news with both Philip and Elizabeth during one of their weekly chats. I’d like to think so.
I wish them every happiness!
Ooh hadn’t even thought about that. We were all thinking poppy for that pink/red dress but that was a lily on the black dress!
Hmm ok actually it was a lotus? But I mean it looks like a lily too lol
Hi Jais, you are correct – it may not be a lily. I went to the Armani site to check, and it just describes it as “floral print.” Oh well, I like to think Meghan was sending a clue with both her beautiful flower print dresses! ; )
Welcome Lil Diana! Don’t like that first name, but not my business. Most important thing: Meghan got to enjoy her pregnancy, and baby is healthy.
Beautiful name, I’m so happy for them!
Congrats to Meghan and Harry! Both kids have nice names.
Happy for them! 💚
Congratulations to Harry and Meghan! Lili Diana is a beautiful name.
I like the name.
Archie is a nickname and they used that for his legal name.
Origin:Hebrew
Popularity:10160
Meaning:God’s promise
Lilibet as a girl’s name is related to the Hebrew name Elizabeth and the English names Libby and Lilibeth. The meaning of Lilibet is “God’s promise”.
From https://www.thebump.com/b/lilibet-baby-name
Does anyone else think that the Windsors all got the news the same time as us or about 10 minutes before us. It’s what they would deserve.
I am so happy for this beautiful wonderful family of Harry and Meghan. Congratulations and loving each other is the best thing for all four of you
BP did put out a statement that the queen, Charles and Camilla, and the Cambridges were told and the BRF was “delighted”.
I imagine that the queen is delighted but I’m not sure about the rest of them.
Remember when Katie I know nothing Nichols said Meg would have the baby at home and not a hospital, and we were all like yeah , like Harry or Meghan or anyone close to them would ever tell you anything. Just proves once again that she really is Katie I know absolutely nothing Nichols
I feel like a giant asshole, but I really dislike Lili. It’s cute as a nickname for Lilibet, but I don’t understand why they wouldn’t use the wildly more popular* spelling of Lily. Nicknames are not beholden to the letter choices of their base names? It just seems like an odd choice.
*In the UK and US.
A good friend of mines is named Lili, short for Lilia.It’s still an easy spelling. Lili is a legitimate name in and of itself.
No one should reproach you for having your own opinion! My 2-year-old granddaughter is named Lilith–Lili for short because there’s no “y” in Lilith. Her nickname? Lili-pad!
Lili-pad is adorable!
I’m so thrilled for them! This is the BEST news and I love that they were able to release the news on their own terms.
I was initially surprised at the choice of “Lilibet.” But I’m over it lol. Meghan and Harry are such forces to be reckoned with that I feel like any child of theirs will absolutely embody their own name. So not even 30 minutes later, “Lilibet” to me is more Achie’s sister than the queen’s nickname. Not that I expect to hear it all that often since it appears they plan on shortening it to the lovely alliterative sounding “Lili.”
I see no slight in Doria’s name not being chosen. Her bond with Lili is assured regardless.
On a final note, I hope we are finally listening to what Harry and Meghan have been saying about their relationship with the queen, regardless of how we may feel about the BRF.
Can I just say I LOVE your name…
haha you made my day! The LEGO Market Street set has a special place in my heart lol
She could go by Betsy which is darling.
I do think that Harry is in the middle of processing so much of his life. And often times
when doing that, a person picks someone. Who just …. they need to be good and sound and wholesome. And they aren’t. Because they are part of the toxic mess. And it takes forever to start to unravel their part in everything and it really hurts. I know that’s waiting for Harry. I feel strange about the name as a result. But before you know it, it will mean only his delightful daughter and not the queen.
Forgiving is part of healing, it doesn’t mean you put yourself in the way to be hurt again, just that there is a healthier path to live.
I have been hurt, and forgave. Trust was gone, but there was some relationship to be salvaged and which made me happier. It totally depends if the other side is up to the task, tho.
Yes. My side was not. And Harry’s side doesn’t seem capable of change at this age. BUT it’s also possible that it doesn’t matter to him because at this juncture she is a good grandma and he wants to enjoy the time he has left. His decisions and his choices are his own, valid and good.
So happy little
Baby and mama are happy and healthy. Wish I them all of the very best. Always.
Congrats Duchess!!
I’m thinking Charles is betting on repairing his relationship with Harry and Meghan once he is king. I think he knows that William and Kate won’t step up that much.
I don’t think that he has the ability or power to totally curtail the negative or racist press against Meghan and the kids.
@Bess – It matter less whether Chuck could have held sway over the reporting, and much more that he neither expressed an interest nor made an attempt to do so.
Harry made it clear in the Oprah interview that he (Harry) wants to repair the relationship with Charles. He also made it clear, at least to me, that a relationship with William is unlikely.
I just hope Meghan does not return to live in the UK full time. Once people have an impression of you, it is almost impossible to change it. This is especially true because Harry and Meghan won’t be all that newsworthy when George, Charlotte and Louis reach young adulthood. The BP has no incentive to change their view of Meghan.
I don’t think it would be right for Harry to spend time in the UK without his wife and children. Not everybody dislikes Meghan. And it would be cringeworthy to see Harry in the UK with William and Kate (who will grin and simper) with his wife and children not there. I think that Harry and Meghan and their children will always be interesting.
That interview was filmed in February. Way before they accused Meghan of bullying and tied her to knowingly wear earrings gifted to her from MBS who’s responsible for Jamal Khashoggi.
Lil’ Diana ♥️
Yes, it does sound like Little Diana or Lil Diana. Very 😍
I know I wasn’t the only one but called Diana as the middle name
Well so not Poppy lol.
My guess is they loved the name Lili, so decided to make it a full on nod to The queen.
I did something similar with my second son – we had a nickname we loved, and the full name is my dad’s middle name. So we named him after my dad (so my son is Dads MiddleName, Dads first name) but the driving force was the nickname we loved. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was along the same lines here. They loved Lili/Lily, Harry wanted Diana so that was set, and they figured Lilibet was just a nice gesture for the queen.
To me It also just cements the point that Harry has ZERO issues with his grandmother.
Nope. No Poppy. Crushed. (Not really)
When I was carrying our first MerlinsDad wanted to name her AFTER THE FIRST GIRL HE EVER DATED if you can imagine the nerve, so I countered with “sure if it’s a boy we’re gonna name him after my ex fiancee, you good with that?”
So. No girl he first dated or ex fiancee.
We refused to name any of our girls after anyone in our families. It works for lots of folk, it just would have caused more issues than not for us
When I was a kid after watching Dr. phibes I fell in love with the name Vulnavia. My girls are grown and I always remind them of what could have been😂😂😂😂😂
Yay! Baby Montecito is here!
I assume the rest of the family was told a half hour before the press release went out, or Dan Rotten would have written it up before the news was released officially.
Revising my estimate: they were told just before Team Sussex hit “send” on the email that sent out the statement or posted it to the Archwell site.
I wonder if Harry will give Meghan a push present? Lili’s birthstones are pearl and alexandrite.
I love Lili! Lilibet is a mouthful, but I thought it was a sweet way to honor his grandmother. Let’s be honest here. Elizabeth & Diana will not have the opportunity Doria will have to influence and love on Lili. So happy she’s here!
So happy for them; they must be over the moon. I noticed that the Fail has a headline, Meghan’s Baby No2. No mention of Harry. They are nuts over there.
Anyway, LOVE the name Lili, which they said they will be calling her. Lilibet will be forgotten the same way that Harrison, Archie’s middle name, has been.
Well CONGRATULATIONS to the Sussex family!!!! Healthy baby and Mama doing well is all anyone can ask for
I like the name. I would imagine they ran it by Doria and made sure she was cool and not too worried about not having her name/a family member name in the mix
Can’t WAIT to see the giddy mess Haz is gonna be with a girl!!!!
I bet she’s beautiful!
On every tree there sits a bird
Singing a song of love
On every tree there sits a bird
And every bird I’ve ever heard
Could break my heart without a word
Singing a song of love
Hi Lili Hi Lili Hi Lo
Thanks for sharing this, @h-barista! I love old movies and music, and had never heard that one before looking it up just now. Now to watch the whole movie!
Congrats to their growing family too! I now love the name despite being surprised at first reading it earlier. As the day has gone on, it’s grown on me.
On a selfish note: I know it will be awhile, and I don’t want them to rush it either… but I can’t wait to see pics of all 4 of them together! ❤️
The fact that the BM, RR, and carnival of royal experts, left looking kinda silly with their inside info, tickles me to no end. Their still questing when Lilli would arrive today in their media, little (7lb. 11ozs) Lilli has been here for 2 days.
So much for inside sources. Once again congrats, to the sussex family.
Amazing how vested we all are in a baby’s name, isn’t it? Especially in this day and age when parent give their kids all sorts of “out there” names. My personal take on the choice of Lilibet “Lili” Diana is: 1) H&M are reiterating that they have no personal beef with the Queen; 2) they are honoring Diana*; and 3) they will not allow themselves to be erased from the BRF.
*The choice of Diana also gives Harry an out if he decides to skip the statue unveiling, as another poster noted upthread. Pretty hard to accuse him of dishonoring his mother when his own daughter is named after her, though G-d knows the BM will try.
I love the name and actually know a grown woman legally named Lilibet (Denmark) – so I think it’s great. Love that they’re just being themselves.
I can totally see that, i.e. your Danish friend’s name If I didn’t know the origin of Lilibet in this case I would have just assumed it was from one of the Germanic languages. As it is, someone elsewhere mentioned the name is used for girls in the Dominican Republic. I did a little googling and sure enough a bunch of Lilibet results appeared with Spanish Dominican last names.
Aww. Congrats. Obviously I’m kind of biased lol. See my name. But I understand why they didn’t want to give the Diana as the first name. That is a lot for a little kid to deal with. I don’t love Lilibet. But I think Lili is cute. Seems like the Queen was a better Grandmother then a mother.
So glad they honored Diana. Im sure she would have adored her grandchildren. Felicidades to the Sussex family!
Congratulations harry, Meghan and archie, I bet she’s gorgeous. I guessed the baby would be born the end of may/beginning of June so I was close.
Geez. I know not everyone is going to like a name (I didn’t like Archie Harrison) but come on. Some people are acting like the Sussexes have personally offended them
Yeah, they are definitely offended. I have seen some comments (not on here) that say they can’t trust Meghan now because she didn’t name her after her mom. They are taking it WAY too personally. It’s creepy.
That’s just pathetic. I think some fans are getting slightly too invested into the Sussexes. But I would bet that the person who said never liked Meghan in the first place and wanted an excuse to rag on her.
If you’re a genuine fan then a choice of name shouldn’t make you question her entire self or personality or whatever.
Honestly, who cares what anyone thinks of their name choice for their own damn child? There are people here today who would rather hate on a baby than deal with their racism. We see you.
I’m so happy for them. The name is unexpected but cute.
Princess Lili has a nice ring to it.
It’s a lovely name! Very cute.
What a lovely tribute to his grandmother and his mother. Lilibet is the family name for the Queen. I’ve seen a few references to Philip being the last to call her that but the name is used by her niece and nephew and her cousins and her cousins children as well.
Aww! Love the names, and I hope they do call her Lilly 😀
Congrats!
I am so happy for them 💗💗💗💗! I was rooting for Wednesday, because that’s my birthday .
Naming a child is a very personal event. It is Harry and Meghan’s choice. 99.9% of the people on this thread would object to having strangers telling them what to name their child. Lilibet Diana is her name and I love it.
I agree! And I’m sure that Meghan and Harry put a lot of love and care into their choice of these names, just like they put love and care into everything they do ❤️
Wow, people have feelings about their choice of names. I’m always a little taken aback by this—so many hope and dreams go into a couple choosing a name, and then family and friends and even strangers share their dismay, concerns, confusion, as if their opinion is welcome? I’m pretty sure that the parents would have asked it they were interested in anyone’s thoughts on the matter. So Liliabet Diana it is, Lili for the daily. Beautiful. Now where are my damn pictures?
So it’s weird for us to snark on the names celebs pick for their kids, but not weird to be desperate to see photos of some stranger’s child? If one is weird the other is weirder. None of this is any of our business at all really so it makes no sense to say it’s not our business when we’re snarking, but it’s very much our business when we’re fawning.
No one is “desperate” for pictures, it was a joke, and it’s invasive to criticize the baby name on the pretext that it’s insulting a family member on either side when it’s not our family.
I’m curious about all these new names here having an opinion suddenly. And that that opinion is that the Sussexes made a bad/disrespectful choice. Whatever.
Saying something like “where are my damn pictures” about a total stranger’s newborn baby is less desperate or invasive than having an opinion on a celeb’s baby name choice?
Let’s face it: either their lives are either none of our business at all, or not.
But I’m not here for being told that when celebs put their lives out there for public consumption, and all the power and $$$$$$$ that goes along with that, I’m to fawn, and fawn only, and any other reaction is “invasive.” That’s bs.
My name ain’t new, you can find me in plenty of comments, usually not on royals-related stories because they are ALL tedious and uninteresting to me.
But “Lilibet” is so cringeworthy to me it was worth discussing.
Honestly, yes, making a joke about wanting cute baby pictures is less invasive than calling the baby’s name cringeworthy and implying the Sussexes should be taken to task for it.
Criticizing a newborn’s name on that basis, in a post announcing the birth itself no less, is weird. Nobody said you had to fawn over them.
I never said your name was new specifically, but hit dogs will holler.
Also, it’s pretty telling that you are saying they are “celebs who are putting their lives out there for money”. Kinda sounds like the troll “I thought they wanted privacy!” line. To each their own.
Agreed, Maria.
@Lola – you know what’s cringeworthy? Celebs giving their kids idiotic names like “Saint”, “Bronx Mowgli”, “North”, “Chicago”, “Pilot Inspektor”…etc. Whine about those all you want but Lilibet (AKA Lili) is a lovely name. It clearly shows that whatever rancor Harry is experiencing with his father, awful brother and his equally awful wife, he and Meghan still respect and love his gran and have reflected it in a perfectly suitable and sweet way.
Furthermore, if you find royals articles tedious and uninteresting why are you commenting? Repeatedly. Just don’t click on them.
Yes, Maria, a great many new and trolling names on here today.
@Lola: Dude. I hate the name too. You’re not alone, and I also know you’re not a new poster (weird that that would be insinuated).
I also was super uncomfortable when everyone on this site was so excited about the pap photos of Archie. The photos were unauthorized and that child should be given the privacy and safety to go to daycare/preschool without being hounded.
Are baby photos darling and cute? Sure. But these two owe us nothing. We all can have opinions on fashion, baby names or speculation over what they do and why, but they don’t owe us photos of their kids or anything concrete that would jeopardize the loss of anonymity and potential safety of their kids.
Congratulations to them all! I hope Archie is settling into role of big brother well (I was the oldest in my family and apparently did not do well with the arrival of my first youngest sibling, so I always feel a bit of empathy with oldest kids). I do find it kind of weird that Archie has such a non-“family” name and then their daughter’s name is pretty loaded with references to Harry’s family. I would think they’d kind of want the kids to be “equal”?
Things have changed a lot in their relationship to the royal family between those two pregnancies and births. After all that happened with Archie, with her name being stripped off his birth certificate, no HRH, and his security being abruptly taken away, I think their thinking has taken a turn towards emphasizing their children’s connection to the BRF rather than downplaying it. To make it harder for the BRF to strip the children of things that could hurt their well-being.
Agree!
The BRF has no power to strip Lili of anything. She’s a private U.S. citizen.
@Lola – there’s nothing to strip. Lili and Archie will likely be titled Lord or Lady Mountbatten-Windsor if Meghan and Harry so wish. It’s also possible that once Charles succeeds to the throne, protocols about titles may very well be changed as he’s been clear he wants to slim down the monarchy.
It’s silly to think that the Sussexes have only named their daughter Lilibet to reinforce her connection to the BRF. They did it out of respect to the Queen who has a close relationship with Harry. They have stepped back from royal duties and certainly aren’t conniving enough to think a name would buy them a chance to represent the crown again. Lili is what she is, the daughter of a prince of the BRF.
What a strange idea, that a child’s name would have to do with them being ‘equal’? Zara’s kids are Mia, Lena, and Lucas Philip. It wasn’t unil their third child that they went more formal or traditional, but does that mean the first two are ‘less equal’ than the third?
Harry and Meghan must like the name Archie. Could be from a soldier’s young son Harry has known for years, could be from Meghan’s childhood pet, could simply be because they like ‘Archie’ and not any of the dusty Windsor names. Ditto Harrison. Could be for ‘harry’s son’, could be because her wedding dress designer friend has a son named Harrison and both Harry and Meghan liked the name. Or maybe they really like Indiana Jones and Star Wars?
It doesn’t have to do with naming this child ‘royal names’ and trying to get something out of it. They didn’t name her the royal name ‘Elizabeth’, they used the family name of ‘Lilibet’. As others have written, it shows an ongoing closeness with Harry’s grandmother. Not ‘The Queen’, but Harry’s grandmother.
@Nota – I think that was a big part of the name. They deliberately chose Lilibet and not Elizabeth. They wanted the connection to the Queen as a person, not as a figurehead.
First off, congratulations to Harry and Meghan and I’m thrilled that Meghan was able to deliver safely without any press or tabloid ‘maccos’ finding out about the birth.
Secondly, I don’t like Lilibet (simply because of my dislike of Petty Betty & the RF) but I love Lili and I accept they are her parents and it’s their baby to name, not ours.
I’m not particularly a fan of nicknames as formal names or first and middle not flowing but it isn’t my child. Congrats to them! Pray for them with a Taurus son and a Gemini daughter 😃
Gemini (Lili) and Leo (Meghan) are a strong friendship match, as are Taurus (Archie, QEII) and Virgo (Harry).
My 4 yr old is a Taurus. I always joke about having a Taurus son but they are the best and I’m a Pisces so he’s in my 3rd House of Communication ruled by Venus and I’m his 11th house, which is friendship. So it works out for us. It’s cute to see that their family group signs are just as positive.
I have a Taurus son and Gemini son and who boy is it work at times. But the best kind of work.
Personally I love the name. Both the full name and call her Lili. And if the post above about both Archie and Lilibet meaning “God’s promise” is accurate (it sounds like something they would think of, but I didn’t click the link…), it’s thoughtful and lovely in several ways.
I had a feeling they were gonna go with poppy or lily for some reason and I love the names spelled lili even more, so cute
I just immediately think of lili Reinhart from riverdale 😂
Wondering how incandescent egghead will get over the fact that Harry went there with the names. Heh heh heh 😏
I know Baldy and Mumbles are live. And Carole Kardashian’s probably popping pills.
I’m surprised with Lillibet but as someone who worked in the schools for years, oh Lord. The spellings! Britney was popular but the spellings were unreal. One little girl was huffy when I continued to call her Burgundy. Her name, she corrected me, is Bourbondy. I stand corrected.
There was a time when it seemed every child was named after some kind of cheese – Brie, Colby, Blue, Stilton, even just Cheese.
I don’t like the name Lilibet but let’s face it, in the grand scheme of names, it’s not in the same league as ABCDE.
How lovely that mom and baby are home and fine before we hear anything. Continued well wishes for the safety and health of the family of 4. Once again, they did it their way, as it should be. I’m sure they are over the moon with happiness
So can we finally stop calling QE2 “Petty Betty” around here? The Sussexes think highly enough of her to make her their daughter’s namesake.
Since this is their only girl& last baby Harry wants to honour the 2 most loved women in his life his mother & the queen.. the queen is his beloved grandmother they have a special connection & she is 95 so she is on her very last years& Diana is no longer here so it makes sense that Harry wants to honour their memory..
I didn’t even know she was pregnant. I like that about myself.
Good for you. Golf clap.
You came all the way here to say this?
You know, you don’t have to lie.
Ok great. Sit down then.
@jax haha liar
:::insert “Sure, Jan” meme here:::
Aww, Eugenie’s Instagram Story said “congratulations dear cousins “. At least someone acts like family.
ahh Lili is a lovely soft name for the baby.Lilibet Diana will be on her papers. sounds cute when you say her name out loud . like Lili time for school. or also call her Lili Di. like Lili Di is dinner time lol.sounds soft and tender and cute.
Current Daily Fail headline, for those wondering how the RRs could spin this news negatively:
“Did they ask the Queen first? Royal family may have been caught cold by Harry and Meghan’s decision to call their baby daughter Lilibet, the monarch’s childhood nickname, as California couple announce they are taking parental leave ”
Lol…these crackers in the royal rota are even duster Saltines than Sophie and Edward.
One thing Harry and Meghan have made very clear is that they speak with Elizabeth regularly. But the Tablouds have to lie about something.
It seems like she sees more of her American great-grandkids via zoom than she sees of the ones who live near her.
I am screaming at “crackers in the royal rota” LMAOOOO
Lili Diana would had been perfect to honour and not bring negative to the name by association
The only negative that results from naming their daughter Lilibet is entirely in the minds of the rabid royalists/anti-Meghan crew. I think the name Lilibet (sounds French) is adorable and Lili Diana is lovely.
I’m laughing at the way some people are taking this so personally. I thought these 2 were supposed to be irrelevant? All the pearl clutching over a baby name. The reminder that this little baby girl who is part black, a person of color (gasp), is related to and named after their beloved queen kills them. Stay mad bitches. We see you.
WORD.
Agree. She’s their baby and if they want to name her after Harry’s grandma with a quirky girly name, so what. All these people in their feelings need to sit down. The baby is here, the name is recorded and will be on her Social Security card, and while it’s unusual, it’s not totally weird. I think it’s very much in keeping with how they named Archie. Both of my kids have middle names related to their dad and I don’t really reference my name or family directly on my side. Lilibet Diana will be her own unique person.
@Keri- it’s not all royalists. There are a lot of Sussex fans who think H&M should cut all ties to the family and they are taking this name personally because it’s clear they will not cut all ties. The same people who were super ticked that Harry was civil at the funeral to William. Harry has made it crystal clear his grandmother means a lot to him but some don’t accept that.
Was having breakfast while heard the news. Thought the name at first was not the real name but it’s cute and why not. It’s very girly. Happy for them and glad they’re doing well. Thought she was due later and glad they had a couple days to rest before announcing it.
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i wonder if they did a zoom with the queen. Harry must have called the queen and told her Meghan gave birth . The queen is the only mother figure he had after his mother died.
He wasn’t devoid of older female family. He’s very close with his godmother, Lady Sarah Chatto, his former nanny Tiggy, and his Spencer aunts to name a few.
Welcome to the world, Lilibet Diana! Harry and Meghan chose to show the love they have for each woman and included the way his grandfather, Philip, addressed his wife, Harry’s grandmother, privately in a way that is meaningful to them. Lili is a lovely name that will be identified with THEIR daughter. She will wear the name Lili making it individually hers. Blessings to this lovely family!
reading about the name Lilibet i found this –How many people with the first name Lilibet have been born in the United States?
From 1880 to 2019, the Social Security Administration has recorded 28 babies born with the first name Lilibet in the United States.
Wow!
I also want to point out the weird story here about a month ago where the name Lily, specifically for Lilibet, moved suddenly up in terms of odds for the name. I wonder if someone in the RF did know and leaked it? Not that different from when George introduced himself as Archie.
I wonder if someone ‘overheard’ the convo Harry had with the queen when he told her what they planned to name the baby? Because I highly doubt Harry told William or Charles directly….otherwise we would’ve gotten a story like we got with George allegedly calling himself Archie or some nonsense.
I was surprised that some people called the name in advance, but think it’s lovely and unique without being too crazy. My daughter (Eleanor Pippa) was a month old on Saturday, but her original due date was May 25. I figured Meghan was close to my due date. I had a dream that I met Harry and our daughters became friends, which hey, they’re only a month apart so maybe one day, they will. I’m very happy for them and wish them the best.
Congratulations to the happy couple on the birth of their precious daughter. ❤️ I have a best friend named Lili so I’ve always loved the name. Harry and Meghan both said they were only going to have two children, so I’m glad Diana’s name is in there. And Lilibet is such a sweet gesture to his Grandmama. But Harry and Meghan both seem to have huge hearts, so this is not surprising. I’m sure his grandma is delighted.
Their baby their decision.
Lili Diana is a cute name.
Maybe petty betty ask them personally to put her name as a tribute, since she knew that charles and willie will make their mission to block sussex kids from having any title. who knows?
Maybe harry had chosen diana as his future daughter’ name even before he met Meghan.
Personally to be offended by a name that is not your child is silly.
I absolutely adore the name, regardless of the connections to the British Royal family.
In fact, when reading it quickly, I get a visual illusion of ‘Lil’ Diana’, which brings a smile to my face,
I am so happy for Harry and Meghan. Two beautiful, healthy children – blessings. I wish them, Archie and Lili the best.
Now, onto donating to two of the charities they recommended in honor of her arrival and support of H&M.
Who will leak the birth certificate? Since She was born in America , will Meghan get to have her ACTUAL name on the birth certificate?!?? And will the Queen be her guardian the way she is for Archie?
Neither the Queen nor Charles is the guardian for Archie, nor do they have the legal right to take the kids away and raise them themselves. That’s a steaming pile of fan-or-hater fiction.
They (the queen and Charles) are not the legal guardian. Plus both children and American citizens. Chuck and Betty have zero legal rights over the children.
I’m in california, birth certificate’s are not private so it will be leaked eventually.
Lily-Beth would have been a beautiful name but I’m sure they went with Lilibet for sentimental, affectionate reasons. She will probably never be called her full name, like Harry was not Henry from birth, she will be always Lili. Congrats to them. I hope they 4 have a lovely, long nesting period in peace.
Yeah, I’m pretty sure they’re just going to call her Lili
Congrats to the Sussexes! Its funny how so many people pitched a fit over Archie’s name but now its no big deal. I was watching a TV commercial the other day that was set in a classroom. The teacher called one of the students “Archie”! Lol, I wonder where they got that name from. Anyway, I like Lili or Lilibet and I’m sure it will suit her perfectly.
Hah, I had a feeling that the little girl had arrived, they’d gone all quiet and completely dropped off the radar except for made-up tabloid nonsense.
Interesting choice of name – I feel like it’s a nod to Her Maj as a human being, rather than as the Queen.
I love that “a nod to the queen as a human being” 💯. I think Harry’s always been close to his granny even thru everything
I do find it funny that technically they could be Archie and Betty 😀
my cat’s name is Lilibet! we are thrilled
blessings to the family
Congrats to H+M on the safe arrival of their rainbow baby Lili. Happy they got to announce on their terms and there were no leaks. So funny the British press were trying to troll Meghan & claiming Harry had told a source she was giving birth on Thursday so they claimed she was trying to overshadow Philip’s 100th birthday. Nice to see their lies blow up in real time. I’m sure Harry is made up as he’s talked about wanting a girl.
Archie & Lili go well together. Apparently Harry mentioned liking the name Lily when Meghan was pregnant the first time. Names as tributes seems to be a royal family thing so I can imagine like William, Harry was always going to incorporate Diana for a daughter. and then perhaps with Philip’s passing, Lilibet was a thing for both his grandparents. Its not a thing in Meghans maternal family although Doria’s aunt was called Lillie so for all we know Doria cheered on the choice of Lili especially as it also conjures up ‘flower’ which is her nickname for Meghan.
So are the tabloids and trolls claiming that way back in September, Meghan was plotting to get pregnant and give birth on Philip’s EXACT birthday so she could overshadow him? They sound as deranged as Trumpers!
I love this whole comment and agree totally on your naming theories!
What a beautiful name!
I wss hoping for a royal-free name so I’m not a fan of Lilibet. But I’m absolutely enjoying how it’s pissing off all the right people, lol. The name is the highest of the high as far as royal clout is concerned. Everybody’s going to be wrapped up in what little miss Lilibet Diana of Montecito is up to. Just her name alone overshadows all three of WK’s kids. Their fans are so pissed for them. I know they’re upset Kate never had the nerve to do it. Haha!
Lilibet Diana sounds like a girl who has tea parties with fairies and then grows up to change the world. I think it’s lovely. It honors Lilibet the human being who I’m sure has a lot of regrets in her life and ignores Elizabeth the monarch. And it pays tribute to the grandmother who isn’t there to be a daily influence like Doria. Doria will help make sure Lili never gets sucked into the white patriarchal society that in many ways destroyed Elizabeth (she’s alive, yes, but look at what that family does to its own to survive), as well as Diana despite all of their privilege.
That’s how I see it. They didn’t name her Elizabeth, they named her Lilibet. That is a name only family call/ed her, and she is Harry’s family. I see this as Harry pointedly NOT naming their daughter after “The Queen” but rather after his grandmother, the person. Both have said warm things about her, of how sweet she was to Meghan, of how much he respects her, of how they are still communicating with her.
I am not defending Elizabeth as a monarch, or the institution or monarchy in general. I’m not a fan. But it’s their baby and they have every right to name her in honor of family members. And Lili is a pretty name.
sometimes i wonder how much power does the queen really have , and if it is the courtiers that use the queen to keep whatever they doing in place. if they have the power to overrule the queen if they don’t like what she wants to do . Maybe Harry understand how the system works for the royals. when Harry said the queen wanted to see him, but then got a call saying she was busy.seems like the courtiers made her cancelled her date with Harry. the courtiers thought it will be too risky at that time for the queen to have alone time with Harry. I think Harry knows that the queen can’t do much business wise for the firm without the courtiers agreeing. I think in that sense, the queen privately gave Harry/Meghan permission to name their baby girl after her nickname Lilibet. guessing the queen did not discuss it with the courtiers.
Same. I’m thinking she’s mostly manipulated by those that surround her and has been for a while. By family mostly who also give orders to her courtiers.
Scary when i think about it . she is the queen but its the courtiers that are protecting the royal family. outsiders ,like the ones who married into the family don’t get protected as the Royal bloodline. The Queen couldn’t protect Meghan,cause it have to go through the courtiers. Charles is running the show now. the queen is only Queen by name. Charles is the one making the decisions with the courtiers.Meghan didn’t stand a chance with the courtiers. the courtiers rules the royal family. I saw on a video where Diana was speaking about how nice they all was with her when she was guest.but as soon as she got married everything changed. they weren’t so nice and friendly towards her anymore. Happy that Harry/Meghan got out of there and are doing well in their life. no courtiers to rule over them. The other outsiders,Sarah also got screwed over by the courtiers, and Diana got it worst than Sarah. so far Catherine seems to be ok. the courtiers and the press seem to leave Jack and Edo alone .cause they not working royals.
I know TQ has done things that she should have regrets about (and maybe she does, and has made her amends) but comments like these make me think of elder abuse and even with everything else that’s happened, the idea of that is sad if that’s indeed what she’s experiencing.
Why disliking the name is being called racist here? Or why is having a differing opinion such a problem? H&M are fine. They’ll be fine long after the Keenbridges divorce and BRF implodes. But they’re not saints. We can all have different views and different tastes in names. If we should all be having the same POV, why bother having a comment section at all? It’s not mandatory. Lainey doesn’t have one.
Literally nobody here said not liking a name is racist. Literally nobody. Can’t speak for everyone else but I don’t have an issue with people who don’t like the name. Wasn’t my top choice and I wasn’t a fan of Archie Harrison. My issue is with people who are accusing Meghan of lying/exaggerating about her experiences because of a name.
Oh, the old “Harry and Meghan aren’t saints, why can’t we criticize Harry and Meghan when they do something wrong?”
The problem is, the “something wrong” is usually completely innocuous like Meghan’s writing style or what they choose to name their own baby.
Get back to me when one of them gets picked up for drunk driving or something.
I really like the name. Lilibet isn’t too bad but im glad they are calling her Lili.Lili is such a pretty name and pretty spelling of Lily. It’s a very soft sounding,delicate name.
Congratulations to the couple! They picked Lily, the easiest guess (my favorite) so It is true that Harry & the queen have a special bond. I am surprised they there is nothing referring to meghan’s mother.
Hooray to the Harry, Meghan, Archie, and Baby Lili !
Wish you all love and joy!
I love the name. Before I opened the article yesterday with news of what they named her, I had “Lily” as my final prediction, so I feel so accomplished, lol.
I think Lilibet is a sweet nod to Elizabeth; I love that it’s a “nickname” name like Archie — it’s fun and they seem like a fun couple, so it fits. They’ve ALWAYS made it clear that their issue was not with the Queen specifically and that they have a great relationship with her, so I’m not sure why it’s surprising!
Congrats on the new babe! I’m upset that Harry made Meghan honor his grandmother after all they had put her through. It’s just wrong and no one can tell me different. She’s blinded by her love and I worry she might regret it down the line. Harry seems to make most of the decisions in his family.
Awwwww….she’s going to be fabulous.
Congratulations to Meghan and Harry (and Archie)! Welcome to the world, Lili!
I agree with everyone saying that Lilibet is a tribute to his grandmother, not the Queen per Queen. I’m not a huge fan of her but I honestly wonder how much she’s in control of things right now. I also hate her visible support of Andrew but, from the standpoint of a mom, I kind of understand it? You still love your kids even if they do crappy things. That being said, I think she’s being counseled extremely badly, hence PR missteps.
She must have some goodness in her for both Harry and Meghan to pay tribute to her in this way.
The nastiness I’ve seen directed on Twitter towards a defenseless baby is so gross.