It’s inevitable that Sussex-defenders want to defend the Duke and Duchess of Sussex everywhere, but I am sometimes concerned that the squad ends up amplifying people who should be ignored, you know? I’ve already seen some nasty tweets about Lilibet Diana Mountbatten-Windsor and her name because y’all are tagging me like “can you believe this?” Yes, I can believe it. People are hateful and I remember the negativity around Archie’s birth too. At least this time around, Harry, Meghan and the kids are safe in Montecito and those dusty saltines can’t do anything but screech and whine from thousands of miles away. So, I’m not going to do this with every single hater, but I guess we should talk about Angela Levin and Piers Morgan, two of the most disgusting “commentators” out there.
Angela Levin told ITV’s Good Morning Britain that Her Majesty will be offended [by the baby’s name] – but others claim the Sussexes’ tribute is an olive branch to the monarch after dropping months of ‘truth bombs’ including accusing Harry’s family of racism.
Ms Levin explained that the moniker Lilibet was given to her by King George V, her grandfather, because she couldn’t pronounce her name Elizabeth as a toddler – and her late husband Prince Philip also used it until he died this year. When asked if the Queen would be happy about Lilibet being used by the Sussexes, she replied: ‘Not after what’s happened, I think she’s desperately unhappy because they were desperately rude about her. I don’t think it’s a good idea. I think it’s quite rude to her Majesty the Queen’.
She added: ‘It was a very private nickname from her husband who hasn’t been dead for very long. Prince Charles would never dream of referring to his mother as Lilibet. He’s never used it – it was a special name, especially for the the Duke of Edinburgh’. She added she believes it was ‘demeaning’ for the Sussexes to have used it.
Journalist Afua Adom, who was also on the show, hit back saying: ‘To say the Queen would be unhappy is frankly ridiculous. It’s a bit of a nod to Meghan’s mother Doria as well, her nickname for Meghan is flower’. It’s also a bit of a stretch to say that the Queen is fuming that her great grandchild is named after her. I think it’s a nod of affection’.
Piers Morgan has said Prince Harry and Meghan Markle’s decision to use the Queen ‘s nickname for their new baby daughter was ‘ironic’ given the couple had spent weeks ‘trashing the Royal Family and the monarchy’. Last night Mr Morgan appeared on Australia’s Today programme on Channel 9, and was asked by host Karl Stefanovic what he thought of the name. He replied: ‘It’s quite ironic, isn’t it? You have this couple who have been trashing the Royal Family and the monarchy for the last few weeks and they have named the baby after the Queen.’
Mr Morgan – a fierce critic of the couple – said he wondered if the decision to honour the Queen with their daughter’s name was Harry and Meghan’s way of trying to rebuild bridges with the rest of the Royal Family. He said: ‘Maybe it’s their way of reaching out, as the Americans say, to the royals and wanting some kind of end to this on-running feud.’
Mr Morgan, 56, then offered a few words of support to the couple – adding the birth of a child was not the right moment to put across a negative opinion. ‘I always think when a new baby is born – I’ve had four myself – it’s churlish to put any negative slant,’ he said. ‘At such a moment. I wish them all the very best. There is four in the family now. I wish them every success and a long and happy life.’
I was not expecting the “actually ‘Lilibet’ is super-rude” argument. I was expecting a more general “really, you’re naming your kid after the head of a racist, colonialist institution” vibe, but I didn’t think it would get so personal. It’s clear to me that Harry and Meghan intend to only call their daughter Lili anyway, just as Prince Henry has been called “Harry” from birth. They used a name which honored Harry’s grandmother, his grandfather and his mother. Anyway, as I said in the birth-announcement post, it’s clear that Meghan and Harry both want to send the signal that they’re fine with the Queen. They had the same message in the Oprah interview too – they adore the Queen. Their issue is with the men around her, the men who control her. Also: Piers Morgan ending on a mostly positive note?? Weird.
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Imagine being a grown adult human and being distressed and vexed by the name of a newborn.
L O L. Get a life. Stop bullying
I really can’t. I try to think about the people behind the screen that spew such venom but I just can’t. If you can’t take a day off from hate for a newborn child, all hope is lost. I know people can be deprogrammed from cults but I don’t know if they can be deprogrammed from hate.
Hating the Sussexes is now the UK’s national sport. Every day, the island reveals itself to be a toxic, putrid cesspool of hate. The porcine one made a huge mistake in walking out on live air. I suspect he is finding it difficult to get gigs and remain relevant. I don’t know why I think this but I’m pretty sure that there is more dirt on him than he has on people. It’s just a matter of time till he is exposed and brought down.
Think he’s afraid of being sued for something? That’s what it feels like.
@Lady D. I think it’s more a case that he realized that he had crapped in his own pool because he has become so toxic. Imagine being that obsessed with someone that you screw yourself out of a job and career.
Given Harry and Meghan’s popularity in the US, he is not going to get job offers in the US. No media company in the US is going to touch that dungheap and the job offers in the UK have not materialized as he expected.
He is just attempting damage control. But that ship has sailed and is waving goodbye to his career or what could be called his career.
Yes. The reactions have been pretty pathetic.
Piers Morgan sounds vaguely unhinged like always but then seems to pull it together at the end. Huh. That’s weird.
Angela Levin is just out and out unhinged. It’s not an insult to the queen. It’s the opposite. And we know that Harry told her about the name, so i’m assuming she was okay with it. I do think it must be sort of bittersweet for her, to hear a name that she might have never thought she would never hear again, even if its not addressed to her. Everyone who called her that has passed, so I think there must be an element of….nostalgia? grief? just memories?…associated with it. But I don’t think its painful, just bittersweet maybe.
Angela Levin is just mad she got caught lying about Sussex sources saying the baby would come on Philips birthday and they’d name her Pip or some nonsense. She doesn’t even have the decency to be embarrassed. As for Morgan, there’s some story is wife is begging for him to have a job somewhere, his screed got little to any traction, and the way he came for Naomi Osaka got to people in a way that his bashing and stalking Meghan never did. Him going after a newborn would just look worse, if that’s even possible.
I agree with you. Devilla is just pure evil. As much as I hate to say this, her mother probably saw something in her to treat her that way. No wonder she can’t stand to see someone else happy, particularly a woman of colour. The porcine oaf went too far with Naomi. He’d been getting away with abusing people with mental health issues, he thought he could do it again. His abuse of Naomi effectively put paid to his career in the US as even the most bigotted right wing media know the blow back they will get if they hire him. He is now left with the UK and maybe Australia but I suspect that there are mere opposed to his presence on TV than ever before.
He’s become so predictable at this point. He’s going to continue to use Meghan and Harry because they’re the most talked about couple right now but eventually he’s going to have to move on and it seems like he’s so desperate for her attention, I beginning to think he won’t. He’s angry not because he was. “Ghosted” he’s angry because he couldn’t use her to further his own ambitions especially because she was American, and he wants to be back in America but it’s not happening.
I love how Angela ‘presumes’ to know and speak for the Queen in a family matter. Who is her source? And where is the push back from those self important courtiers?
I think his inherent racism was freed by whatever injury to his head whenever he received that inches long forehead scar. Some frontal lobe injury lets the evil id fly and be free.
Maybe Pier’s mother has already given him fair warning about slamming the baby. I seem to remember he said his mother really got on him one other time about something he said about Archie.
As to Angela, she is just as wacked as Pier’s. “Devastatingly” so! She acts like she and the Queen are super besties. I frankly don’t think any of them have a clue what the Queen is thinking.
They– ok yknow what?
Just stop it.
Why are you surprised that Piers Morgan ended his commentary on a weird note as Piers Morgan is just plain WEIRD.
I think it’s the ‘positive’ part that’s baffling. It is for me, at least.
Well, Piers also said – “To those asking for my reaction to the new royal baby, I am respecting her parent’s constant pleas for privacy and declining to comment,” so, that should temper the positivity.
Somebody responded to him with something like – now she’s had two kids by Harry, I guess she’s really over you.
“ Mr Morgan, 56, then offered a few words of support to the couple – adding the birth of a child was not the right moment to put across a negative opinion.” And then proceeds to do just that.
Poor Piers, fighting to remain relevant.
Exactly. He’s literally embarrassed and humiliated himself over an obsession and it’s gotten him nowhere. His wife is begging for him to get hired and he’s still threatening a woman that doesn’t care or acknowledge him. He’s basically in the same boat as the Markles at this point. A waste of airtime and predictable.
Consider the source. A pasty faced, inbred, island bound, inconsequential, tiara worshiping motherf@#ker. Thankfully, I can be objective.
I think that was perfectly even-handed – one hand across each side of his face.
You showed remarkable constraint and true insight.
Hear, hear!
+1
Angela Levin is beyond unhinged. She’s miserable and pathetic. I doubt she does anything else other than refresh the Mail’s homepage every 2 seconds to get some crumb of Sussex news.
I’m guessing Piers doesn’t want to get dragged to badly by insulting a kid (a few who did were) so he’s decided to try and stick in something nice at the end to say “Look! I’m not mean to a baby!”
She’s in deep with the megxit crew. She even believes the whole moonbump conspiracy theory. This woman simply cannot be saved
The only reason Morgan didn’t get too nasty about baby Lilibet on Twitter is because he doesn’t want to get suspended. That racist hag that insulted the baby and George Floyd got a ton of complaints, was actually suspended even thought she said she wasn’t and has deleted her account. A family lawyer who piled on also deleted her account and was suspended by her firm with complaints lodged against her professional association. Piers is looking for a job so while still noxious, he doesn’t want to lose his other platform.
Also, speaking of Sussex haters – I’m not going to look but remember Emily Giffin’s breakdown last year about Meghan reading to Archie, and then her IG stories got reposted from when Archie’s name was announced and she was just in TEARS because it was “just Archie” – not Archibald, no royal connections ,nothing. She was so invested and it was weird (coming from someone who posts here daily, haha.)
I wonder if she’s okay with the “royal connections” here or if she’s in tears again LOL.
Of course she’s not ok. She hates Meghan for spoiling her white supremacist fantasy. This is a woman whose most famous work is a novel where a basic bitch steals her best friend’s man, and it’s sold as a tale of female empowerment.
Speaking of emily giffin. I haven’t hear from her since she got dragged for that unnecessary nonsense on archie’s birthday. Is she still posting mean girl sh#t or is she staying away from royal news for now?
I checked her IG cause I’m a petty, messy b*tch and she hasn’t posted or shared stories about little Lilli-Diana. She posted a SH*T ton about little Charlotte’s birthday and the Cambridge’s. Racist ole goat. I cannot STAND that woman.
I don’t understand why these people keep pointing out that Charles never called his mother Lilibet. Most people actually don’t call their mothers by their names. Mommy would be an odd name for an infant.
Technically, it would be “Grandma Mommy Mountbatten-Windsor”
lol
Angela lies so much. To be a fly on the wall when she meets her maker. I know that exit interview is going to be bananas
In the words of Nene, ‘You never can win when you play dirty.’
Even satan will be scared of her as she out satan’s satan.
Royalists and haters are more focused on the “it’s super rude” angle because they’re so upset with the name’s indelible connection to the queen. It’s one thing to have Elizabeth as a name, but Lilibet is much more personal, sentimental, and unique. I didn’t care for the name initially but I’m warming up to it fast because these people are so amusingly triggered by it.
Additionally, combined with Diana, Lilibet/Lili Diana is a name that is striking in a way that her cousins’ names are decidedly not. Another source of rage for those who harp on and on about the Cambridge kids being more special than the Sussex kids. I’m sure a certain keen pair are feeling especially bitter about the name.
“Royalists and haters are more focused on the “it’s super rude” angle because they’re so upset with the name’s indelible connection to the queen.”
The Royalists and haters would be upset no matter name the Sussexes gave their daughter. The next big bunch of hype will be over the christening, the christening being held in California and claims that Oprah is a godmother. Never be amazed at what the totally unhinged will say.
You are right that they would have been upset about any name given to the baby. If they had chosen the name, Olivia, for example, the RRs would have found a way to declare it horrible, the worst name ever, an insult to the world and also the all Olivias ever born….Fortunately, the RRs can’t talk trash name of the Queen, just the use of it.
The personal nature speaks to the Sussex’s brand and they have been consistent in that. Their statement when Philip died and Harry’s statement about his mum with regards to the Bashir debacle points to that.
I like it, because it honors his grandmother and grandfather without being maudlin.
@Beach Dreams, what you said. The anti Sussexer’s are going all Stephanie Tanner with the “rude” angle because they have nothing else. Most of them probably had prepared statement templates readying for the name being too American, too California, too Woke, too foreign and too whatever else. Angela would have found a way to whine about the name if H & M named the baby Angela. The anti’s couldn’t find a way to insult the name without insulting the Queen. It also shows the poor listening skills they have when Harry & Meghan have discussed their relationship with the Queen. Over the next year, the odds are good, Lilibet will see a rise in babies named that.
P*ss is only being mildly passive-aggressive for the moment. He’s probably shredded up enough rough drafts attempting to diss the name to have enough confetti for the Super Bowl winner at this point.
Yes–sounds exactly right, @Agreatreckoning. Kudos to The Sussexes for selecting a name that is lovely in itself, a touching tribute, distinctive, AND outmanoeuvres their detractors.
No matter what name was chosen, they would have found reasons to rend their damn gardens about it.
Mary? “Do they think their child is as good as the Virgin Mary? How presumptuous!”
Bella? “These California liberals claim to be so tolerant, but all they care about is if their daughter is beautiful.”
Poppy? “THE SUSSEXES LIVE IN AN OPIUM DEN!”
This is so true!! Lol.
Mary is also one of Queenie’s middle names, so best be certain they’d insert some apoplexy over THAT.
Actually, scratch the apoplexy, that would suggest speechlessness. Absurdly catastrophizing screeching, maybe?
I think the press, after months of saying that Harry and Meghan disrespected and trashed the Queen, are having a hard time accepting that Harry and Meghan have a very good relationship with her and that she’s been very supportive of them.
Yep. They want the Queen to punish and hate Harry and Meghan so badly and the fact that her and Harry have a good relationship is irritating them. They know the Queen is in contact with him and they have no clue of those conversations and how they that can be leaked. This all comes back down to money and control.
How low and pathetic one is to be a bully about a newborn baby. Pathetic.
Go outside. Pet a dog. Talk to people. Take a step back and realize you’re bullying a helpless innocent newborn.
“ Pet a dog.”
OK, but they might give the dog rabies.
Or kick the poor dog.
Every time I see “Lili Diana” I accidentally read it as Lil’ Diana.
Since you (or someone) said this on Twitter, I was purposefully reading it like that!! But that might not be fair. They don’t want a little ‘shy Di’, they want Lili to be her own woman,
The other Lili/Lily/Lilly that keeps coming to mind for me is from ‘Modern Family” and I’m having a lot of fun with Harry and Meghan being the epitome of a Modern Family!
Morgan added “now is not the time to put across a negative opinion” about the baby, after having just done so! He’s so predictable. I was not waiting for his opinion or approval.
The scorn over Lili’s name echoes the kind of rhetoric I have come to expect from salty island. The name is “presumptuous”, “insulting” – just say “uppity” and be done, y’know? That’s what they mean. If this were Beatrice, they’d be slobbering all over it, but Meghan? How dare she believe HER daughter is good enough to share the Queen’s nickname!
I read it as “I’m saving my negative opinion for a more appropriate time.” Like, you know he’s got negative things to say, he’s just waiting so he doesn’t look like he’s piling on on an actual newborn. He’s all, “I’ll be proper and wait until she’s a month old.”
Piers got overshadowed and his 60 minutes Australia interview was a bust 😂 He’s damaging himself at this point because no one cares about his vendetta anymore. People are getting seriously bored with it and Angela Levin needs therapy
Angela and Piers are poor examples of the human species. Both seem to exhibit a significant degree of frustration/tension and seem to be seeking some release. Angela needs batteries for her rabbit toy, and Piers needs to rekindle the passion with his wife. They express a huge amount of dissatisfaction with the respectful/loving relationship M and H have in their marriage. The boundaries have been established, and the days are long gone for the so-called biographers who do a one-hour interview and milk that one conversation for a book and years of appearances on talk shows as a royal expert.
They’re so obsessed, lol. They both severe problems over a couple who could care less about them.
Piss is such a twisted, dark, racist, misogynist soul. Just last year he said in an interview with the Sunday Times:
‘Have I taken things a bit too far? Probably,’ ‘Do I think that will govern and temper how I talk about them going forward? Absolutely.’
He hasn’t dialed it down one bit. I suspect it’s because Harry and Meghan has found so much success and popularity here stateside that his envy and jealousy cannot be contained. I’m waiting for him to really get his come upings.
Agreed with your last part. He’s jealous because they’ve been embraced and successful in America. I think a lot of the hate they get in parts of the BM is because of jealously. America is the land of opportunities and Piers had a small taste of it but it didn’t last. He wanted to use Meghan to help him reclaim that because she is American.
So I have opinions. I dont care for the name but honestly u dont tell people that. That is rude. I have a particularly low opinion of the Queen, especially in light of her lack of comment on the genocide of aboriginal children at residential schools in Canada, that occurred during her reign. We are a Commonwealth country. And Anglican Churches were involved in these “schools”. So to me naming a kid after her is a bit like naming a kid after dear old Uncle Adolf.
Thomas Markle marked ownership of what he considers to be his in his response: MY daughter MY granddaughter MY love. It really is all about his possessions!
Piss’ meltdown on 60 Minutes Australia and his wife publicly begging for someone to hire him are admissions that he didn’t quit; he was fired. Karma has come for this bully and with a vengeance.
OMG. Piss Morgan’s wife really is begging someone to hire him! I thought people were just making fun but NOPE, she is begging. I love it.
she’s probably sick of him being around all day!
I think Piers is mostly just pissed with Meghan and thinks she ghosted him. Which is pretty funny if you think about it. He’s gone crazy nutty in his assertions, and for whatever reason people seem to be eating it up, both for and against him. I don’t think he’s angry with the children or even Harry. Although, I do think he thinks Harry is dumb, which is a story that’s been around for a while.
Piers’ comments here make sense It is my big scratch my head moment how the Sussexes seem to split the institution with some members of his family specifically the Queen. It just seems improbable she isn’t more involved in these action than they think. Who knows though since none of us know the inner working. Still Piers’ comments here are not bad, especially compared to others.
Why are you making excuses for that racist pos. Birds of a feather flock together
Piers Morgan seems like he needs medication or therapy or something.
He probably thinks others need to get those things to cope with his behavior.
Piers is rly embarrassing
There’s something very wrong with Angela Levin, even by demented ‘royal expert’ standards. She’ll say ‘what a lovely new baby’ then fall over foaming at the mouth.
As to PM, is that phone hacking class action lawsuit with Harry as one of the complainants still sitting under him like an unexploded bomb?
Dang he needs to just leave Meghan be… he is seriously obsessed with her.