Last week, Camilla Tominey suggested that the Duchess of Cambridge might not actually attend the unveiling of the Princess Diana statue on July 1st, what would have been Diana’s 60th birthday. The unveiling is happening in Kate’s literal backyard at Kensington Palace, and it’s happening on a weekday. William, Kate and the kids spend the work week in London for the kids’ school, and they spend weekends and school holidays in Norfolk, or at least that’s what they want people to believe. My point is that Kate will likely be around KP for the unveiling, and it will look very strange if she doesn’t show up. Then again, it’s also very likely that William has asked her not to come, because Kate and the Middleton press machine tend to make everything about how Kate is the keenest linchpin to ever button. Now Robert Lacey says that the statue unveiling needs to be about more than just optics, and there’s a little extra story where it sounds like Kate is demanding to go:
It was claimed last night that Kate will help the brothers put on a united front, having been involved in the project since the beginning. But historian and royal expert Robert Lacey says the meeting needs to have far more substance than just appearing for the cameras if the rift is to begin to heal. He told ITV’s Good Morning Britain: ‘Surely when they’re gathered together to honour their mother and what Diana stood for, that will be the time when we can hope for some sort of reconciliation and serious talk.
‘Otherwise if they just appear together in public in front of the statue and there’s nothing more, I think we would rightly conclude that it’s a superficial gesture.’
Mr Lacey also reflected on the brothers’ recent appearance at their grandfather, Prince Philip’s funeral, and how their relationship has altered since Harry and Meghan’s bombshell interview with Oprah Winfrey.
‘A funeral would be when you would hope brothers thinking of other things, honouring their grandfather, would come together,’ he said. ‘I’m not saying when they walked together across that courtyard it was fake. As we saw, Kate rather skillfully brought the two together, but apparently nothing came of it once they got inside. Certainly the reports they had a big family sit down were sadly denied on both sides.’
The Duke of Cambridge and the Duke of Sussex have barely spoken over the last few months but have called a truce ahead of the Diana statue unveiling. The two of them, plus Kate, are reportedly going to talk together on what would have been the Princess of Wales’ 60th birthday. Harry and William will make separate speeches as they pay tribute to their mother’s legacy.
A royal source told the Mirror: ‘The Duchess has seen this project evolve from its conception and now to the finished article and undoubtedly wants to be there to support her husband. No doubt there will be tensions between the Cambridges and Harry, but they all recognise that despite the obvious and deep rooted issues between them, they want the day to be solely about the Princess of Wales’s enduring legacy.’
I wonder if whatever Kate wants, Kate gets. She’s obviously trying to get credit for being the linchpin of this Diana statue, and she’s also going on a public campaign to convince William that she needs to be there. I mean, William is going to be screwed either way – if Kate comes, the stories will be all about how Kate is the peacemaker and how she’s doing the most and isn’t she clever. It will also look like William is hiding behind Kate, because he’s that dysfunctional and he can’t be alone with his brother. If Kate doesn’t come, there will be hostility coming off of Baldemort in heavy waves, and it will also look like there are big problems in the Cambridge marriage (and that William knows his wife is a foolish ass). LOL, congrats Baldingham. You played yourself and backed yourself into a big dumb corner. Well done.
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Wow she’s really starry eyed for Harry.
Yes, she always looks like she wants to eat him in one bite.
When I have a dry bland ricecake and a delicious tasty donut is sitting on the table, I usually look at the donut that way too.
Poor dry bland rice cake William. 😂
Seraphina, yes. A very fit donut!
The only confectionary that popped into mind was a donut. But he is a confectionary when compared to his dry bland brother. A life time of having ricecakes, I can see why FFQC is not happy.
She never looks at William that way.
William is never nice to her
And William hardly looks at Kate, at all.
Keen Waity has ALWAYS stupidly shown that she’d rather have married Harry than William. No, what Waity wants she doesn’t get: she wants to be Queen, and she wanted Harry. I really do have to stress that I wish no ill will towards William or the children, but I can’t help thinking how hilarious it would be if something happened to Willy and the kids, and Kate was left alone, and Harry was made king, and Meghan his queen consort. Ha! Unlikely…but who knows. And again, I’m not wishing ill upon Will & the kids, God forbid…it’s just how the succession works right now, and it would be just too much for the Saltines to handle…that country would explode in apoplectic rage…and when all is said and done, that’s what we really want to see 🙂
Harry wouldn’t be King. George is next in line.
Here’s the facts: Harry is NOT going to the UK. It’s now June 25th in the UK: he has to be there quarantine for 10 days, they claim, but that’s not entirely true. He did not quarantine for 10 days for the funeral: he used the special diplomatic process, which is he’s tested and in quarantine for 5 days at home before he leaves, he takes a private flight, and he is in quarantine for 5 days on arrival. Even this fast-track process can’t work at this stage, because you have to remember, he’d have to have left the US two days ago, because their timeline is way behind the UK, and also, of special note, his quarantine has to end THE DAY BEFORE the event, meaning, June 30. So he has to arrive today, the 25th, his quarantine then is five full days, which means technically it starts tomorrow, 26-30th June inclusive, so he’s able to attend on July 1st.
So he’s either arriving today (and if he’s arriving today, there’s no noise from Montecito, and that’s odd), or he’s slid into the country COMPLETELY unnoticed, which is impossible even on a private flight, or… he’s simply not going to be there. H&M’s silence is crushing everyone, and I LOVE it!! My bet is, he’s not showin’….
First they claim that “there was no point in talking to Harry at the funeral” and then at the same time they claim “Kate skillfully brought the two brothers together” which one is it?
If you’re “concerned about Harry leaking your conversations to the press” then has Kate really done her job as a successful keen lynchpin peacemaker? Don’t think so
Lol. Whichever one suits the narrative they’re currently selling. Consistency is not a feature of tabloid journalism.
i’m really tired of all the embiggening “kate the peacemaker” stories being shoved down our throats like, every two days now.
I think we need to bring up the whole situation where William basically told her to buzz off and it was so loud others turned to notice.
William could give a shit what she says at this point.
@NIC919 wait, what? When did this happen?
After the funeral. Everyone was walking out and at one point Harry and William were walking side by side. Kate then walked up for a brief moment but she backed off quickly and then you see Sophie put a hand on her back. Beatrice (or Eugenie I forget) was walking ahead of them and turned around at the same time looking like William sharply spoke to Kate . Harry remained in line walking with William the entire time so it wasn’t directed to him.
Omg we are not having the funeral truther discussion again are we LOL.
But if we are I’m just going to say that Beatrice turned around sharply BEFORE Kate backs off and before Sophie puts a hand on her back. Like they’re still on the sidewalk at that point and Kate backs off once they’re in the courtyard. The timing does not fit.
Where can we see this video?
That whole deal after funeral was about Kate giving the press the shots she promised them. She had already sold the whole peacemaker narrative. It was already laid out in the DM days before the actual funeral. And then like clockwork she gets her icon pic in the car and orchestrates her peacemaker shots after.
If she was smart she’d go get a nice condo beside Charlene in SA. Because she married to basically the same guy.
The Lone Ranger Funeral Truther has done all she can.
Red snapper, the original truther! Your legend continues.
omg that “icon pic in the car.” HOW POSED WAS THAT. It makes me feel like punching her, that smug “I’m so valuable to the Royal Family” face. GRRRRR….
Kween has to come because she’s got the hots for Harry.
Keen also has the hots for any camera.
I think it’s a little of that with a dash of relishing in the opportunity to cosplay and mug for the cameras, with a sprinkling of wanting to troll Meghan that SHE gets to be there.
This!! FF Queen Consort Petty McButtons will take every opportunity to lord it over Meghan – IIRC she has previous for pulling sh!t like with other Royals. Apparently she loves it when she’s at family events with William as when she’s with him she outranks everyone and they have to courtesy to her. Something that doesn’t happen when she’s on her own.
I can totally believe she’s attempting ongoing competition with Meghan, but Kate can’t be paying much attention if she thinks this would bother Meghan. Other than a tinge of “gee I wish Harry weren’t 5,000 miles away right now” I imagine strolling the lovely gardens of her secluded home with her two adorable children will fill some of that hole.
How is it trolling Meghan that she gets to be there when Meghan’s at home with Harry’s babies?
Like clearly, Meghan’s won. She’s free and happy in her coastal California mansion with a new baby from a man who’s actually wild about her.
Kate being the third wheel to 2 men who don’t want her at a statue ceremony holds nothing in comparison that.
“How is it trolling Meghan that she gets to be there when Meghan’s at home with Harry’s babies?”
I know that. We all know that. But Kate doesn’t. She thinks there’s nothing better than being titled and tiara’d and having the peasants bow and scrape to her. Kate likes to imagine that she won because she’s the one in the palace who gets to be queen one day (well, maybe). So having Meghan’s husband there standing next to her (because we all know she had an inappropriate crush on him) while Meghan stays home with the BM trashing her gives Kate a smug sense of self-satisfaction.
Trust me, I know Meghan is the true winner here–hot husband, hot marriage, adorable babies, beautiful home, brains, respect from her peers, world admiration, FREEDOM. But Kate likes to pretend she’s the winner.
@HeyJude, well said: she is, in every conceivable way, insignificant: to her husband, to Harry, and most especially to Meghan
They’re really trying their best to get Harry to stay home in California, aren’t they? I hope he does stay home. He’s already honored his mother by giving her name to his newborn daughter.
Agree. Diana, of all people, would understand perfectly why Harry would want to skip what’s sure to be an overwrought display of performative grief.
I think he honored his mother by carrying out the kinds of work that she was doing, with real empathy, with care, and with compassion. By treating the people he meets and helps using those same attributes that made everyone love Diana. He’s done it by marrying for love, and by standing up for and protecting his family. Him naming Lili after her is just the cherry on top.
It’s just a statue. The world will not be altered in anyway if Harry skips the unveiling. The build up to this is so exaggerated and silly.
Well now William will be going on tour in Scotland with the Queen until July 1st. Will he make it home in time for the unveiling?
Hmm I wonder if Harry IS going to attend and they are getting William to Scotland so there is no interaction between the two prior to the unveiling .Kind of like when they sent him to Ireland when H&M came back for their “you could have had a bad bitch” tour.
William shows up on the 1st, statute unveiled, over and done with. Then the british press plays it as “harry was desperate to meet with William but William was just TOO BUSY being the FUTURE FUTURE KING to meet with someone as unimportant as Harry.”
Agree Becks, it’s odd timing. I’m from the US so I have no clue on how long it takes to get from where they are in Scotland to KP but the timing is odd to me.
You know what would be hilarious? If neither Harry nor William attend and it’s only Kate standing there with her rictus smile, wearing her best Diana cosplay.
I am also trying to imagine the articles the BM would have to write. Crowning Kate the True Legacy of Diana?
Kate should get a button for every title she has. Crown Jewel. Royal Revolutionary. Kingmaker. Top CEO. The Baroness of Botox. Lady Flasher of Fillers. Catherine the Great. Future future Keen. The Linchpin.
I only believe Camilla when it comes to stories on the Cambridge’s. It’s clear she is a Middleton mouthpiece. I think William definitely doesn’t want Kate there and Kate is demanding to be there especially since Meghan won’t. She can make eyes at Harry and play Diana dress up.
I also love the fact that we have no official word if Harry will be there.
Agree that it seems like William does not want Kate to go but she is demanding to go. If she does go, it suggests that Kate can override will and as Kaiser says what Kate wants Kate gets. How does that work with the divorce theory then? We’ve been saying that if Will wants a divorce he will make it happen. But if he can’t even make her stay away from the statue unveiling, how could he manage a divorce? It would suggest, if Kate doesn’t want a divorce, there’s not a divorce.
Harry will there, nothing will keep her from harry, he has been gone to long. Harry without meghan is all she wants. Just watch
Lol. There is nothing surer than the fact that if William wants a divorce, a divorce shall happen.
And, by the same token, if William wants Kate at the unveiling she will be there and if he doesn’t, she won’t. So if she pitches up we have to assume William wanted it so.
I have a dumb theory. William told Grandma & Dad that he wants a divorce and was told no. Perhaps because of bad timing, bad PR or whatever, but he was told to suck it up for awhile longer. Thus, this why he looks like he’s feasted on lemons the past year and Kate’s been acting more secure/confident.
@chicken this is a good theory. I for one think that Kate is in a much stronger position than is generally acknowledged on this site. The sad truth (for the windsors) is that she absolutely IS their crown jewel and shining star, relatively speaking lol. Without her there is no fashion, no aspirational upper middle class family image, no sporty boat outings, NO ONE physically attractive at all. Yes they have the Queen but after her there is absolutely nothing and no one for royal lovers to watch but Kate. Damn, it’s a grim fucking state of affairs over there but I can’t feel sorry for anyone of them (except the kids, who, after Kate, are the next thing they have that’s watchable).
Diana was a star and had global approval and appeal. Kate doesn’t have that. She happens to be the youngest and thinnest one for now, but if she was that great they wouldn’t be bringing out Sophie and Edward. They are doing that because she doesn’t have the charisma that Harry has or Meghan. Diana died at 36 and her charisma was without question. If it wasn’t for petty jealousy, they may have been able to use that to their advantage. Kate will be 40 in a few months and she’s a total non entity. She doesn’t sell covers like Diana did and her causes are unknown. Mostly because she’s super lazy, but also because only royal watchers care about her. She doesn’t transcend to the regular folks.
And if William wants her gone, the she will be gone. Charles was able to divorce Diana and she was the People’s princess. Kate doesn’t have a fraction of that public affection.
The Cambridge kids are the future, not Kate.
@nic919 I agree with all of this and maybe the Sussexes’ departure shows that they didn’t really learn anything. Will will get the divorce if he wants it. And then it’s at least a decade until George is a viable commercial commodity. Who the hell knows what they’ll do until then. Camilla, Sophia, etc are non factors. They will have absolutely nothing that appeals to anything other than some septuagenarian Tories.
Camilla IS a Cambridges/ middleton mouthpiece but on this one im saying she’s going. Its funny because I actually think that is would be better if just the brothers went. This way it will be about them and their mother. Not kate trying to play “peacemaker” (even though she made harry’s wife cry and then lied about it) and scoring pr points.
I think it’s a case of Will backing himself into a corner, like Kaiser said. He’s pushed his brother so far away that he can’t even act right a funeral. Those new chapters he provided to Lacey just made everything worse and there isn’t even any confirmation that Harry will be there. So if Harry doesn’t go, he has no choice but to bring Buttons, because nobody wants to see Will Jung Un clenching and fisting his was through the unveiling.
For cryin out loud it’s them saying a few words to unveil a STATUE, I’m so ready for them to get this over with. Can’t believe there’s going to be another week of handwringing speculative tabloid stories beforehand and I suppose a week more of tabloid stories dissecting afterwards what will probably be a very mundane event.
I know, the media is trying so hard to make this a circus – tearful reconciliation, frozen stares or fisticuffs – doesn’t matter which. But you can’t have a circus if the animals won’t play.
And what sickens me is that the perception is that Harry and Meghan are the ones constantly inserting themselves into the news cycle, when it’s the exact opposite. Every damn day we get more updates on these ratchet shenanigans from William, Kate, and crew. It must be so frustrating for the Sussexes — “being everywhere while being nowhere”, indeed.
I am waiting to see how long before the Middle PR press machine is shut down. It’s not good for either Chuck or Wills. They have spent so much of their energy on Meghan and Harry that the spoiled child in the back has grown and causing more trouble.
I think the only way to let the Middletons eat crow is through divorce.
It will happen after Charles becomes King and before William is invested as Prince of Wales. No way will he allow Kate to have the title if he has someone waiting in the wings
If they ARE going to divorce it would be better financially to do so BEFORE Willy gains control of the lucrative Duchy of Cornwall, and that one is automatically passed on unlike the Prince of Wales title. As it is right now a divorce settlement may be relatively small. As Duchess of Cornwall you can bet there’d be a much bigger payout.
@SnoodleDumpling
That’s a good point. The minute the Queen dies, Charles is King and William is the Duke of Cambridge and Cornwall. It occurred previously with George V. And the Royals are all about money, regardless of their pretensions.
“A royal source told the Mirror: ‘The Duchess has seen this project evolve from its conception . . .”
Wow. They’re trying to make it sound like she was involved or even created it, when all she did was watch from a distance. Dear journalists, “We’re not that stupid.”
The amount of propping up kate is receiving is not normal. They actually make her sound like she’s the one holding the whole family together. As if the queen isn’t still alive and breathing and a whole camilla doesn’t exist.
We’re not stupid but some people definitely are the way they continue to believe this bullsh-t
This part had me confused. Why are they acting like this is her project too? She has never been mentioned in the planning of this event and now all of sudden she’s been there since the beginning? This is some Early Years revisionist history. The comment about them all coming together to honor Diana’s legacy is funny because…Kate didn’t even know Diana. It’s like they are trying to make it seem like she has a personal stake in this and cosplaying Diana doesn’t count.
@JT: its all part of the “kate is just like diana” pr. They’ve been trying that angle since she married in. But it fell completely flat as they refused to work. Now that there is an evil equivalent in the picture (meghan) they are trying it again.
Whet was there for her to do? It’s a statue I assume is in Diana likeness. Is kate a statue maker too now. Ffs.
@over it the makers of the statue owe their success to the DuChEss of cAmeBRidgE!! Haven’t you heard? Everyone owes their success to Kate
Yes, like she gave birth to the statue. Will she present a smaller version of the statue, wearing a polka dot dress, on the steps of the Lindo Wing?
DEE, that’s hilarious! What a visual! 🤣
Her sculpting and statue-making studio is just left of the beehives, aviary, and honey-making plant on her country pile. Actually she got killer bees in and they were trained to attack Rose on sight so she couldn’t hop the fence and let Will jump her bones 🙂
Yeah, I highly doubt Will and Kate were poring over the prototypes together with glasses of wine. He probably didn’t even show her a thing.
@Cecilia It’s dumb because if you have to work that hard to make the Diana connection, you’ve already lost. It’s unnatural because Buttons tries so hard. It’s so obvious what kate is doing and it’s creepy. Meghan being compared to Diana was organic and she didn’t have to dress up like her for the dots to connect.
‘The Duchess has seen this project evolve from its conception . . .’
As have we all.
Yes, this jumped out as the most desperate comment of all! Kate has nothing to do with the statute, so they say she’s “seen this project evolve” as a way to force a connection between Kate and the statue, LOL!
Before, I’ve thought she always came across as lazy and not very bright. But the desperation is recent. Makes me wonder what is going on behind the scenes to make her feel desperate?
I just can’t tell if it’s Kate being desperate, Ma Middleton being desperate, or the tabloid writers being desperate.
And of course if it’s the tabloid writers then is it genuine attempts at propping up that seem desperate because the writers are desperate for material and have to just throw this slop out there or is it deliberately written to make Kate seem desperate as a means of slipping in more sly jabs at this high-climbing vine?
Did anyone think Kate really wasn’t going to be there? Her big thing is Diana cosplay. She’s probably had her outfit picked out for this for years.
ETA I should say “did anything Kate really wasnt going to fight to be there”. The only way she isnt there is if William puts his foot down about it, and he might.
Oh yeah, it’s all been leading up to this. No way would Kate miss DianaCon 2021!
😂
Remember the sunken garden unveiling? She copykeened Diana’s wedding rehearsal look from top to toe
I’m trying to think what other significant Diana look she could recreate for this event.
I’m not a Kate fan as you all know, but I swear to god I would convert back to being one if she showed up in the “revenge dress” LOLOL
@Becks, I laughed out loud reading your comment. I can imagine the looks on Willy and Harry. Ohhhh – I would convert too!
LOL
As an aside, my favorite is when the Kate stans describe her hideous 2007 break-up clubbing dresses as “revenge dresses” to link to Diana.
The look wouldn’t be complete if she wasn’t wearing Diana’s iconic sapphire and pearl choker. Maybe Kate can borrow the Spencer tiara too.
After this heightened raging smear campaign, l hope Harry doesn’t attend either. Obviously nothing is off limits in how he and Meghan are being treated. As others have suggested, release a video tribute to Diana that will really make them choke on their hate.
@Layla, I had to look that one up. You are so right! I never realized it!
Has Kate appeared in Diana’s epic red sweater with the white sheep/one black sheep yet? It’s been reissued recently and you know Kate has one stored away in her closet. But maybe she’s saving that one for chilly Balmoral?
@Feeshalori – how mad do you think Kate was when she realized she could never wear the Spencer tiara LOL
@Becks1, l think she was livid and would have traded all her wiglets and buttons for a shot at that tiara.
Someone suggested she would wear Diana’s wedding dress in an old post. I still crack up thinking about her wearing the 450-foot-long veil.
I’ve said from day one that she WILL be there. This is like her Oscar night.
Yeah but the big question is – what Diana look will she be cosplaying?
The Elvis dress! Or maybe she’ll go for Diana’s super casual and wear pale yellow denim overalls.
I wonder if any British bookies are taking bets on what Diana cosplay outfit Keenie Mids will wear. Is there anything with buttons?
Haha! I hope she wears bicycle shorts and a HARVARD sweatshirt.
I’m a macabre asshole cuz I’m looking forward to this shit show on some level
Ohhh, @Vavavoom! You cracked me up with that….the image of it all….!!! And @Gruey, WE ALL ARE 🙂
She wants that picture of the three of them, William, Kate, and Harry, one more time. She’s just one of those women who wants to be the Only Girl.
This sums it all up very well. If Kate goes… it’s all about Kate overshadowing William. If she doesn’t go… it highlights so many of william’s less tactful traits.
Ultimately, it would be better if she didn’t go so William can start creating his own image without being propped up by his wife.
Also, yes there’s a divorce brewing. So less Kate will help the public adjust.
If kate doesn’t go the focus won’t be on william “less tactical traits”. It will simply be about the 2 brothers and hopes of a reconciliation. Im sorry but i think it will all be so much better if kate isn’t there.
That being said, there’s no chance in hell she isn’t going. Kate lives for these type of events.
I think she needs to stay home too, for the same reasons. For years the PR for William has been how much he needs brother and how much he needs his wife. That has been the most consistent party line and it’s not a good look. They make it seem like he can’t get out of bed without a shoulder to lean on. He needs to stand on his own, especially if his marriage is as awful as it appears.
@jt: i think william himself is growing tired of that party line. Which would explain his posture during royal events and when he’s around his wife. Im sorry to say but the more i think about it, the more im starting to assume that william is the hostage. He wants out but the palace won’t let him. Like i said above, this kate pr isn’t normal. I don’t think its just camp middleton anymore.
@Cecilia Maybe the freeharry hashtag is a case of projection. William is the one that needs to be freed. Harry did say he was trapped.
@JT: nah. That #freeharry was a 100% about harry because palace staff just hates meghan and wanted her gone.
Im talking about the Cambs marriage and that it increasingly looks like william wants out of it. Im pretty sure the palace won’t let him tho. Remember that article a few weeks back when it was stated that their marriage went from “william the king, and kate the commoner” to william and kate are equals?
Many of us speculated that the cambs marriage is now a marriage of equals because kate secured a certain amount of power. Personally i think she has the full support of the palace machinery.
I think the story about them looking for property and schools in Berkshire and Gary’s interviews about how Charles should be skipped is evidence she does not have support of the palace machinery, personally.
I was today years old when I learned the #FreeHarry tag wasn’t about freeing Harry from the Royal Family, but the RR & RF using it in hopes of getting him to separate from Meghan.
From the ENGAGEMENT interview on, Harry has been consistent. They are a TEAM.
Whatever they do, they will do it together. I do so wish they would listen to his words.
I used #FreeHarry incorrectly and I apologize to the world
Keen Guevara will save the day!
What the hell is Lacey talking about – didn’t he read his own book? After all the recent reveals of screaming and name-calling and incandescent rage, about how Will and Kate didn’t like Meghan from the very start, how in the world can he be talking about reconciliation?
I’m not up on the history of the Diana statue – has Kate been involved from the start? Or is this another pie chart?
Kate hasn’t been involved with the statue. Like AT ALL. And im actually so angry william is allowing her to make this moment that should be about his momma all about her.
As for the statue stories. Like kaiser said, last week camilla tominey wrote a piece about how kate wouldn’t be there. Obviously Camilla is a middleton/camb mouthpiece so it was weird. Now its being claimed that she will be there.
Meh!! Camilla Toomean is a big fat liar. She broke the infamous Meghan made Kate cry story, for which Meghan outed her. Now she’s being outed for yet another lie, quel surprise! 🙄
No Kate is never involved in any project. She only comes in at the end to steal the credit of other people’s work.
Kate and William are using the statue unveiling to bash each other through the media because their marriage is in tatters. Kate’s disgusting family and press are trying their damndest to make her seem like the backbone of the BRF while William’s family and press are are talking up the FFK to become the FK. It’s all childish passive-aggressive BS and only goes to show how totally useless they are to the UK and Commonwealth if that’s all they can do with their time and money.
I’m expecting her to turn up in a blonde wig and a puffy 80s wedding dresss.
@Emily thank you for the laugh this morning. I literally laughed out loud.
We don’t know if Harry is coming and I don’t think he is. One, KP is turning this tribute to Diana into a joke especially with Baldy banned Meghan to attend stories. Two, to adhere to the UK COVID rules Harry would have to quarantine for 10 days, starting the moment he landed. To make it to July 1 Harry would have had to arrive in the UK on June 21. No solid reports he is there and the US press would have reported it for sure. I believe the Sussex’s will videotape their tribute showing her legacies that are two of her grandchildren, Archie and Lili.
I don’t know whether Harry will come but I do want to say is that if he takes part in the “test to release” scheme he only has to quarantine for 5 days if the test is negative. And you can do that for whatever not just funerals or something.
Holy cow…now THAT would be incredible.
If Harry is vaccinated, does he still need to quarantine?
I agree that there was no reason for KP to run with the “Meghan is banned because of Willileaks” story. She wasn’t planning on coming and even if she were banned, she would have been classy about it and said nothing. But for some weird reason, William needs credit for this.
It shows how much power H&M have over the royal family because they continue to think that slighting them or insulting them in the press is some show of power while the Sussexes are busy making money moves, handing off potential lawsuits to their world-class legal team, and living their lives on parental leave.
I feel like he might’ve already been vaccinated when he went to Philip’s funeral, and he quarantined for about a week (or slightly less) before the funeral. I imagine he’d have to do the same if he’s going back now. There’s still a week to the unveiling, so there’s still time for him to fly there if he isn’t there already, but time is running out. I’m still ambivalent on whether he’s actually going since we haven’t heard anything from the Sussex spokesperson beyond the parental leave announcement.
All you need to do is Google “Harry arrives in UK,” or “Harry flies out of LA.” Look at how many hits you get for that from April, for Philip’s funeral. Try and find ONE for now. There isn’t one, because he ain’t comin’….he would have had to leave the US y’day LATEST to do the “embassy/consulate route” on quarantining (5 days at home in US/private flight/5 days in UK), and there’s no time left even for that, let alone the usual 10 day quarantine. So without any notice of him leaving the US yet, it doesn’t look like he’s even coming, and I’m SO HAPPY.
Prince Harry is travelling to the UK showing fortitude and a strong desire to honour his mother’s memory in person despite what it will cost him. At least the Spencer family will be present so he will have relatives to share memories of his mum with which will be of consolation. William and Queen Kate can hog centre stage due to their Royal status if they wish but Diana is being remembered at the ceremony by her entire family. She doesn’t “belong” to just FK and William could best respect his mum by truly embracing his brother and making amends for past wrongs not authorising his bestie to go tonto on Meghan in print!
Of course kate is going to be there. She is going to be overall harry like funeral. She is going to wear expensive dress and the makeup will be on and chris jackson will photoshop her beyond recognizable. She might borrow from queen or diana collection to cosplay. Come on now, meghan is not going to be there , so kate will be . The papers and her fans will fawn over how things are before Meghan and royal trio united.
Speaking of playing themselves, I always find it so hilarious when I remember how KP (basically William and Poor Jason) and BP(?) tried so hard to discredit Meghan around Archie’s birth where they tried to portray her as the negative Nancy who was “snubbing protocol” by not showing off her newborn lion king style hours after giving birth. They had all these stupid stories LEAKING out about how they made that decision to not introduce Archie the day he was born only for Meghan and Harry to later reveal during Oprah that they weren’t told to do the whole lion king thing. But what’s so funny was that when those leaks were happening, people were actually praising Meghan, saying how she (and Harry) made the right choice to put herself and her kid first instead of falling to the whims of desperados. KP and BP basically shot themselves in the foot and I’m so glad they did 🤡🤡
They really are just dipping their noses in red paint over there. I don’t understand why none of them have a lick of sense or intelligence.
I imagine that Willy the Spy thinks he’s plotting against the enemy with these “clever” ideas, but if this is what takes up all their time…I’m disappointed.
After the onslaught over the last few weeks, Harry will honestly look stupid if he decides to go. The smear campaign 2.0 is full throttle rn, and the lines he’s attempted to draw between family/firm/press are virtually meaningless from the public purview. H&M lose nothing if they give W&K this moment to bask in Diana’s legacy. It’s not worth it.
This is his mother, so I respect whatever choice he makes and won’t call him stupid for taking it. It’s just another opportunity for him to act more kingly than his brother on a global stage.
OR he is going because his focus is honouring HIS late mother with a project that has been years in the making & it is not about the press/firm/family. Diana wasn’t a member of the royal family when she died. Just because the press & his relatives will act a fool doesn’t mean he shouldn’t do something if his heart is in it, he’s supported in decision by his wife & those closest to him & it’s safe to do so.
And yeah never any doubt Kate would be there. I hope the Spencers are too
Harry is where he is & has achieved all he has because unlike some people he doesnt lower himself to the lowest common denominator.
Listen, this is his MOTHER we’re talking about. The ONE person in that entire wretched family who loved him unconditionally. I feel quite comfortable making that assertion because it’s clear that love is a very difficult concept for the Windsors. She’s also the one who made his and his family’s escape from the UK possible. I won’t blame/judge him if he’s either there already or is prepping to travel there, because it’s only for the sake of honoring his mother’s memory.
Insert Dj Khaled “congratulations you played yourself” meme here. Slow clap for you, William. Well done indeed.
Why wouldn’t Kate go? I think it would be bizarre if she wasn’t there.
Just like it was bizarre she wasn’t with William on Father’s Day, but here we are….
Why would it be bizarre? She never met Diana so surely wouldn’t be making a speech. Reportedly, Meghan isn’t welcome to attend so why should Kate be welcome?
I kind of feel the same way, why wouldn’t a spouse attend an event honoring a late parent? It’s weirder to me than anyone would be excluded.
There is no reason for Kate to go unless Harry isn’t coming, but if Harry isn’t coming, how can she pin the linch?
Kate should stop inserting herself into every story. It is bizarre.
I would stay far away from Kate. She likes to insert herself unnecessarily, cry white woman tears and her copykate ways are very disturbing.
Pay attention: William will still have the moral highground if he manages to get a quiet divorce, something his father did not have and he hoped, his brother would not have.
Ma Middleton is confused. The sole purpose of a royal married in for a Prince of Wales is not to draw too much attention, work as a horse and stay two steps behind her husband. Charles disliked when Diana got all the attention but was satisfied with her work ethic. In the end, he was too jealous.
What Ma Middleton is doing is the opposite what William wants. She is embiggning Kate as to buy public support so that William does not leave her, but the effect is getting William jealous. Kate does not have the hours, does not have the love, does not have the perosnality Diana have; all that she had was to live at William´s shadows now, and she is refusing. The heir, the spare and the third one were already provided- Ma Midleton, you are playing with fire!
I am more and more convinced Willaim and Charles already talked about the issue, of Kate not becoming Princess of Wales, some Middleton spy let Ma Middleton know and she is fighting very hard to have William believe he is nothing without Future Queen Kate. She might even believe it is working, because if Kate is demanding to go, she is enjoying the attention as peacemaker, not noticing she is only making things worse for her.
Willie is clearly blocking Kate from this event. But Kate seems to think there will be a public outcry if she’s not there. What she doesn’t understand is that no one will care if she’s not there.
Her own stans will say ‘it’s because she’s at home with the kids’ or it’s ‘because of the pandemic’ etc, they will come up with various excuses if she’s not there. They need to believe that Kate is perfect and has the perfect marriage, so Willie blocking her will be given a pass, because they won’t want to openly discuss William not wanting her there.
Kate needs public support over William more than anything, but their stans won’t publicly fight for her against Willie because they still want to believe their are the perfect couple. The only way she will get one over him is to throw him under the bus, which will happen, it’s only a matter of time. These two are experts at throwing people under the bus.
Does she really have stans? They just happen to hate black people. If she had real stans, her charities wouldn’t close.
People who like white royals like Kate. She didn’t have the derangers show up until Meghan was in the picture and put her laziness to shame. Then the bots showed up to post classy and regal under any tweet or post about Kate. And I wouldn’t be shocked if a lot of those bots are linked to KP.
Her stans are dull mediocre racist women who’s husbands no longer wanna bang them. They for some reason relate to kate.
@F-P I’m howling. That is the funniest thing I’ve read all day.
@Moderately, you hit the nail on the head. I also believe William has given up even pretending that he’s remotely interested in Kate. It would not surprise me at all if they divorced, because I’ll tell you one thing: what William wants, WILLIAM gets. No two ways about it. He has all the power, and you can bet your backside Daddy and Camilla are supporting him if he wants to divorce….and he does. He didn’t even WANT to marry her, and his anger towards Harry is due regretting the way he let himself be pushed into the marriage. I mean please: 11 years she waited? And the Queen didn’t even think much of her because she had no background, no work ethic. She still hasn’t!!! Cosplay is her work ethic. My God, she is THE singlemost biggest mess in that family…
If anyone was looking for reasons why Harry wanted to get away from the UK press and that whole environment, this statue debacle is example number one. The man can’t even enjoy the birth of his baby girl in peace without a bunch of bull crap drama.
Why on earth would he attend this bullshit event at all. So many reasons why it would be a really bad time, and allowing the press and William to treat him like a puppet, but quarantine requirements will necessitate more than a week separated from Archie and new baby. Why subject himself to that just to be William’s punching bag?
I mean I get to, she’s horrible but still
Drunk Harry makes me happy
I think the media wants her there. She is their main weapon against Meghan and that is their primary focus; demeaning and dehumanizing Meghan. It was never before even suggested that it was an event including anyone other than William and Harry. It was always W&H will dedicate a statue. It wasn’t until it was pretty clear Meghan couldn’t attend that it was even suggested that Kate might. Kate’s presence also guarantees leaks from the Middleton. It has been Myers and Tominey who have been testing out the Kate might attend narrative. Both have shown Middleton bias in their coverage. And since Meghan refuted the crying story. They have been the ones who have tried to defend. Most other RR’s have stayed away from it. Also, I think it’s completely unfair to criticize H if he attends. It’s for his mother. He can’t control all the BS from others. For the funeral, he ignored all the noise in order to honor his grandfather.
Precisely. I will add that she needs validation and seem unable to find it from within, so she needs the visibility provided by the media. Lack of self awareness means that she has no clue how compromised she has become.
The narrative is already written, just put the visual pieces to give the story/myth its authenticity.
Am I the only one that finds this whole thing weird? Why wouldn’t she go? Why would William want her to sit at home? Why is this possibility being floated out there?
Everything about this is weird. I think William wants Kate to go – the person he doesn’t want is Harry. But Will and Kate together will solidify the picture of the future royal family.
Actually, I can sort of see it being opposite.
William can’t stand Kate any longer and he doesn’t want her at this. He and Harry were Diana’s sons and are blood royals unlike Kate, so he will want Harry to attend for that reason and also to show Harry somehow that Harry is under his thumb.
I don’t know if that’s the case. I can see it being plausible though.
@Maria – maybe Will can’t stand Kate, but she’s still part of the Happy Family scenario for the moment and the Lacey excerpts paint a united front of the Reverent Cambridges against the Sociopathic Sussexes. None of Will’s recent leaks have shown any interest in talking to Harry, let alone reconciling with him – they’ve only been insults.
If they were that into promoting the united happy family he would have had her with him on Father’s Day. He would have done more than a few half-hearted shots for their ten year anniversary. There wouldn’t be articles like Camilla’s saying she isn’t going. His PR wouldn’t be clashing with her PR (her fluff articles versus The Other Brother cover story where Kate’s influence is largely ignored). I can see him being annoyed at how she overshadowed him at Philip’s funeral, too.
He clearly wants out. Whether that will happen, who knows. But I can see it having an influence in this decision.
Again, I will say that when you really think about it William attending that event with just the children alone on Father’s Day was really strange and out of character for this “happy family” narrative that everyone has been pushing on the Cambridges for the past 10 years. IMO, it wouldn’t even be that odd for Kate to NOT attend this unveiling — it’s something that literally only has to do with the brothers to honor THEIR mother. I will also say that I know she’s not anyway, but I don’t think Meghan needed to be there either. There doesn’t need to be any outside noise and distraction — this is a tribute that should just involve Diana’s two sons to keep it as clean and simple as possible (impossible for the RRs, I know).
So taking all that into consideration, to me it was MORE strange to spend Father’s Day apart from your “loving” spouse (and youngest child) — but that happened. The fact remains that William either didn’t want or need Kate there, and on such a family-oriented day. If he felt that way for Father’s Day, I really don’t think he needs Kate for the unveiling either and there seem to be a lot of clues he’s feeling that way as well.
Harry told us all from the get-go that whatever he and his wife have to tackle, whether individually or together, it will be tackled by them TOGETHER…..AS. A. TEAM.
Moreover, isnt marriage about 2 flesh becoming one? For the life of me i cant wrap my head around the argument that its unnecessary for kHate to go to the unveiling or its just as well that M cant go, because its H and bullyiam’s mom anyway, and nothing to do with anyone else.
Jesus H. Christ! do you folks hear yourselves?
So where do y’all place the Spencers? And the crowd of folks who would have attended if Covid restrictions didnt disallow it? How could a crowd of well-wishers or even ogglers be accommodated but not the wives of Diana’s heirs and their family?????
Oh, I hear myself quite well. And I think I’ve always made myself clear that I am 100% in support of Harry and Meghan’s equal partnership marriage. Under normal circumstances, yes, Meghan should be there to support her husband in this, and if you’re going to say that then by extension the same goes for Kate as well. But considering the utterly insane circus that this has devolved into, IN THIS INSTANCE I think having the wives there would only feed the piranhas further. This is not even about Diana anymore. Just about whether the keen hyena is going to show up and preen and peacock and whether William and Harry are going to be fistfighting with this statue as a backdrop. It’s tacky, pathetic, and tiresome. Meghan doesn’t need that bad energy in her life right now, and nor does Harry but as this is supposed to be about his mother the obligation for him to honor is stronger. If he’s going to attend, just go, do the damn speeches and get this over with because I think we’re all already beyond sick of hearing about it and we’ve still got a week to go.
It won’t be necessary for Kate to go because all she’ll do is co-opt it like she did the funeral of the Duke of Edinburgh.
It won’t be necessary for Meghan to go because yes, it’s a piranha pit and her presence will only give the RR’s more opportunity for articles for money. She is not going to let the entities that abuse her make profit off her too and especially not her children.
Too bad William and Kate didn’t see the idea of Harry and Meghan getting married as 2 becoming 1. If they had, this situation wouldn’t exist.
Harry going alone IS them tackling it as a team. That is the strategy they have *both* agreed on after working through this whole saga together. It’s to protect their children and Meghan’s mental health (to say nothing of her being newly postpartum).
@Carmen-JamRock — “Jesus H. Christ! do you folks hear yourselves?
Settle down. Meghan isn’t going to breast pump gallons of milk for Doria or a nanny to feed a 3 week old while she goes to an unveiling of a fakakta statue on the other side of the world. She isn’t going to EVER put herself in a position of vulnerability like she went through AGAIN. She knows if she goes it will cause media chaos at a time when 2 brothers simply want to honour the memory of their mother along with her family and some specially chosen patronages and close friends.
Yes, Meghan and Harry have made it clear that they are a team, but I’m sure Harry’s protective instincts are on high alert right now and would never expect his post-partum, nursing wife to throw herself in harm’s way by attending. My bet is Meghan will post a warm tribute to Diana and her legacy via Archewell or Insta. If I were Kate I’d do the same thing via their YouTube channel and leave it at that. The last thing you want to do is turn a somber tribute into a 3-ring circus or a fashion catwalk.
@carmen-jamrock I’m pretty much with you (though maybe not at ur level of indignation).
Imagine a more common scenario wherein an average person has a notable parent who has passed—like a local teacher or philanthropist or professor—and there’s some kind of memorial event (like maybe some kind of charity gets created in their name). Happens all the time. No one is gonna be like “oh my god how weird that your SPOUSE attended the dedication/memorial service/whatever.” Any argument that wives aren’t appropriate is totally weird and convoluted. Since when isn’t the default for married couples to attend events as couples? I guess this is all on another level but still, seems really weird to say a spouse shouldn’t attend.
Have they been seen together for anything since the Scotland tour? I think he had his fill of pretending right there.
They were at the G7 together but William only did one event I think, Kate did a few.
This! Thank you. She’s Will’s wife, his family. Her being present shouldn’t even be a question. To me, it’s just another sign that all is not well in that marriage. It’s like he doesn’t want her in to be in the pictures because she might not be around in a couple of years.
Yeah technically it shouldn’t seem weird for a wife to accompany her husband to an event honoring his late mother. People mostly assumed she would be there until Tominey mentioned that she wouldn’t be. It’s weird. Seems to suggest there’s stuff going on that we just don’t know about. We can speculate but either way it’s weird.
Yeah the more I think about this – it is weird that this is even being discussed. I said above that I didnt think there was any chance in hell Kate would miss this event. the ultimate chance for diana cosplay!
So why is it even being tossed out there that she might not attend? I think most everyone (regardless of our opinions on Kate) assumed she would be there. Why are we now hearing that maybe she will, maybe she wont? Is it meant to add drama to the event? The Cambs don’t want people only speculating on Harry’s attendance? If so, that’s a weird move.
I think everyone expected her to attend because if Meghan is not there she won’t miss this chance to be the only girl in the room. That Tominey is saying she might not attend is what’s interesting. Just that it is being suggested when we we know she is not busy and school is done by then just adds to the speculation about what is going on.
But really all this coverage over the statue unveiling has been ridiculous.
Sticking with what S808 said way upthread. It’s just plain weird. Still feel like William just plain doesn’t want her there. The miserable looks on his face throughout the Scotland tour. None of the articles promoting him as TOB or the new excerpts from Lacey, ahem William, promote Kate as a peacemaker. In fact, they strait-up contradict the peacemaker narrative. Possible scenario: William told Kate you’re not going. She told Tominey in hopes that it might gin up interest in her going or to lessen the blow when she’s not there because, as Tominey said, its about the two brothers. Battle of the Cambridges?
I mean maybe someone else doesn’t want her there and that’s a possibility. There’s also a slim chance that she doesn’t want to go or that she’s using going as leverage for something, but that wouldn’t be my first bet.
Yeah, I think it’s weird. I would have thought that anyone’s mother being honoured in some way would be an event that at minimum that person’s spouse would attend, and older children. I suppose I see it as a family thing? One of our own? It sends a very weird vibe to exclude a spouse from a mother-in-laws tribute. The most natural thing (non-BRF thing) would be for Harry and William and their familes to all be invited, and for Meghan and babies to stay home this time on account of travel with such a young baby.
I’ve never seen so much drama around a statue unveiling. I mean WTF?????
Imagine being the sculptor/manufacturer? This better be one hell of a statue – the eyes of the world are on it.
I know, right? Let’s hope it doesn’t look like that weird wooden Melania sculpture.
+1
It has been sculpted by the chap who creates the Queen’s likeness for British coins. H&W settled on him after much clashing about who would do it and some attempts that failed
If she doesn’t go, I’ll be surprised tbh. I know the media will spin it as “2 brothers only” or “William’s journey alone” or whatever (depending if Harry is there) but I expect her to be there. I would also imagine Meghan to be there if there wasn’t a pandemic and she hadn’t given birth just weeks ago.
I couldn’t care less if Kate attends or not but I really hope that Harry decides to stay home with his family and sends a pre-recorded message instead. He said that flying into London gave him anxiety so why put himself through that?
If the press is hoping to see a hug between Harry and William, they’re going to be disappointed. Kate will be there to serve as a buffer between the two of them. She will attempt to make it seem like the trio is back together again. I still don’t want Harry to go but if he does, I hope in his speech, he’s gives the Royal Family a piece of his mind.
Yup. Agree with you. A speech not unlike the one Diana’s brother gave at her funeral (even tho he turned out to be a louse).
I am curious, how exactly is keen mcbuttons going to help the brothers put on a United front? Is she going to literally walk up to both of them and join their hands together like teachers do for 3 and 4 year olds. I really want to know how is she going about her keenest here. One minute she is the bridge builder of the family. When the lights go down and the cameras shut off she can no longer be bothered. These people have got to pick a story and stick to it, cause if you can only talk to Harry with the cameras around Karen keen, then you are nothing but a circus act.
Considering Kate is part of the problem since she has gone after Meghan in a variety of ways, Harry doesn’t care what she thinks. She’s only a peacemaker in her mind. Harry was MAD at her during the commonwealth service and he didn’t look enthused when he saw her at the funeral. Harry won’t ever be rude like William, but he’s stopped being nice to her a while back.
Harry isn’t going. He’s not will, he’s not going to leave his 1 month old and toddler with his wife to go to some lame unveiling. Especially after the crap KP has been putting out against Megs.
Lili Diana is 3wks old tmrw.
you’re right, he’s not going. There has not been a single word from the US about him either leaving his Montecito home, of arriving at an airport, or of being on a flight (even a private one). Even more, there has not been one single report of him landing in the UK, and that is something he simply cannot hide…even if he arrives by private jet, every paparazzi in the UK is camped out at every single possible entry point, they’re watching every single black SUV with darkened windows and 2 or 3 men surrounding a redheaded 6’2 guy whose face is the most famous in the UK…no way can he sneak in, and if he ain’t there now, today, then he ain’t gonna be…he’s gonna be phonin’ this one in, and Meghan will be just off camera, laughing at her huge crushing of the Saltines and their outrage at Harry not being there, when they didn’t want him there, cos he left, cos they wanted him to leave (see how insane they are?!)
Kween had been wearing Diana’s iconic engagement ring everyday for a decade, you can be sure she wants to be there with the ring prominently displayed.
I have this visual in my head of Kate showing up with a Diana haircut in full Diana cosplay.
@Lizzie, the thing about that ring is, it’s never, ever going to be hers. It’s simply property of the RF. It’s on loan. When they divorce (yeah, they’re gonna do that…), the ring stays. Meghan’s, however, is hers: actually Diana’s ring was in Harry’s care, he chose it when his mother died, and it’s always been “his” so to speak. He gave it to William because he said Will was older, and he was going to be king, and his wife should wear it. Fair enough. But Meghan gets to keep hers, because Harry had it made 🙂
The way Kate treats that ring, wearing it to zipline, sticking it into dough, etc., I’m convinced she was given a copy for the engagement. The real ring is in a vault.
If anyone should be going it’s will and Harry HER SONS’ gosh darn it I’m so over this drama peace y’all
I can imagine Harry cannot stand to be NEAR that hyena grinning heffa.
That’s one way of putting it!!!! Thanks for the laugh.
If this was happening in a run of the mill family, the story would be:
1. A man fell in love and married a woman.
2. The man’s brother didn’t like this woman, maybe because he fancied her himself.
3. The man’s sister in law was livid, too, because she had always lusted after her brother in law and thought they had a special relationship. She felt threatened by his new wife.
Hasn’t it occurred to W&K that the farther they carry on along this path, the brighter the light will shine on the ruined dynamics of their own partnership?
But all the time, I come back to Meghan saying Kate is a good woman. Why? Is there some deep understanding that Kate is a conflicted and troubled woman who, despite harbouring an infatuation for Harry, needs support?
Maybe they got on just fine? She also said they had a disagreement, that there was an apology, a note and a plant…like adults. The whole construct of Kate having the hots for Harry and Willy having the hots for Meghan is a construct created in a chat room, not something either Sussex has implied.
People have been commenting on Kate’s inappropriate behavior towards Harry since before Meghan ever entered the picture and Kate has tried to freeze out his girlfriends when she could (aside from her campaign around the wedding to get him to date Pippa which he shut down immediately, publicly). It’s just that now, with Meghan, he doesn’t go along with it and certainly didn’t when she was pregnant.
There may have been an apology and a note but there was no retraction in the media from Kate. Meghan didn’t use the name Waity Katy out of nowhere in the interview supplements.
If they had gotten on just fine, Kate wouldn’t be letting her mother and her disgusting uncle shade Meghan multiple times in the press over the course of two years.
With the amount of hatred coming from William for Meghan, some twisted subliminal wish he had a woman as beautiful, self-possessed, and capable at the job as her is not implausible. How many women here have dealt with that from men? Nobody said either Sussex said it.
Thanks, Maria. Behaviour can be unsaid but obvious. Just look at the pictures. It’s been talked about for years and prior to Meghan.
The pictures at public events possibly reflect two people who hate being there – Kate because she gets anxious and Harry who has admitted they were sometimes an ordeal. I think Kate latched onto this idea that they were in it together, with a very generous pinch of fancying him to boot. The visuals suggest that he found this element of her behaviour uncomfortable.
I think it is also obvious that William harbours a hatred for Meghan, driven by jealousy that his brother has found such a great woman. Yes, I have known men like this. They are hugely interested in women they profess to dislike.
Again, I agree with Maria. If things truly were OK behind the scenes with Kate and Meghan, we would not be getting these passive-aggressive (along with outright nasty) digs towards Meghan from Kate’s camp, and she would have shut down the crying story if only through one of her mouthpieces. PERIOD. With “friends” like that, who the hell needs enemies??? We know they can deny shit IF they feel like it, and they never feel like it when it comes to Harry and Meghan, only about themselves.
@LetsGetReal, if you want to get real, then understand that Kate has indeed had the hots for Harry from the get-go, and that Willy was triggered by Meghan’s appearance on the scene…likely because he felt an unwanted and therefore hateful attraction to her, and Kate saw his reaction and fuelled it, because she, too, was eager to dislodge this woman from the scene and leave Harry to her, Kate.
So yeah, let’s get real, but know all the underlying and VERY OBVIOUS history.
Look, I don’t know, obviously, but we used to say “Oh, she’s/he’s a good person” about people we didn’t get on with–it was a polite way of saying you would never be friends without coming right out and insulting him/her. But that’s what I’ve always thought from the time Meghan said it.
Meghan knows she couldn’t come out and say Kate is a bitch in any iteration, truth or not, without being thoroughly lambasted even more than she has been. “She’s a good person” may have meant that Kate’s said and done shitty things, but she’s got a lot of her own crap she’s dealing with which may influence why she’s acted the way she has. Basically, in keeping with character Meghan extended Kate grace, though Kate would never do the same for Meghan.
Thank you. Perhaps it’s a matter of perspective, but it boggles the mind when I see people take the “Kate’s a good woman” comment to heart and try to completely absolve her actions or encourage sympathy for her (NOT you, @Robin, just speaking in general). From *my* perspective as a black woman, I knew damn well that Meghan couldn’t say anything negative about Kate without people pushing the “innocent white woman vs. mean (biracial) black woman” trope even more. Like yes, Meghan probably knows some things about Kate that sparks some pity for her, but let’s be real about how saying anything less than “Kate’s a good person” would play out.
Thanks, Beach Dreams, that’s a helpful insight.
Agree with you Merricat and also swirlmamad – Meghan may have just “she’s a good person” bc there’s nothing else to say (you notice she didnt say “we spent a lot of time together, she really showed me the ropes, she’s funny and warm and sweet” etc…just “shes a good person.”)
But regardless, I think Meghan knew two things extremely well going into the interview – she could not disparage the Queen, even slightly, and she could not expose the Cambridge marriage. So we got “she’s a good person” who is “going through some things” aka her husband is cheating on her and is never around and treats her like crap.
Fair enough — I guess I’ve always been more honest than that.
I don’t second guess Meghan — I don’t think she’s the type to play word games and innuendo and the “bless her heart” route. I find that to be disingenuous and that isn’t who Meghan is. I also don’t really buy the “she couldn’t say anything negative” because it was HER interview with HER perspective which was LONG overdue and she didn’t need to mention Kate at all. She could have corrected the crying story which she did.
She was under no obligation at all to go further or declare her a good person….yet she did. And y’all don’t take her words at face value.
Disingenuous take. Meghan was already getting death threats just by saying Kate is a good person. How insane do you think people would get if she came out and told the truth?
I love how everyone is just ignoring the fact tht Harry has a wife. Has anyone else noticed tht the palace mouthpieces are trying to nake this seem like the old days of the trio?…..and retroactively giving kHate credit for being involved wth the project from the start….as if H’s fiance-now-wife wasnt also there in 2017.
I recall a story in FF that there was a Diana-honor event (I forget wht it was) tht M had flown to England for to support H but Bullyiam nixed tht, saying she wasnt his wife so it wasnt appropriate.
Well those fckers seem not to understand tht this is C21st. where us human beings became experts at doing things remotely.
Watch this space.
So if Kate doesn’t go it’s because Willy is creating his public image without her because he is getting the public accustomed to seeing him solo because he is just dying for the day he can divorce the old, botoxed, wiglet’ed hag and move on to a more appropriate future Princess of Wales.
If Kate DOES go it is because she put her foot down, has something on him, is forcing him to stay married to her, wants to bone Harry with her eyes and make it all about her and bonus points if she wears something that can be compared to a Diana outfit. Oh yea, buttons, keen, lynchpin, peacemaker.
LetsGetReal, you forgot K the revolutionary.
So Kate’s been involved in this statue since its inception? Be ready for Diana to be immortalised in stone with a gurning mouth and holding up a pie chart.
For cripes sake, it’s a statue. It’s a long overdue tribute that should have been done years ago but was probably delayed because Diana’s popularity did not decrease. Once the unveiling is completed, do you think you will hear stories of any of the royals visiting the statue? The only reason this story keeps resurfacing is because of the background stories that are being surpassed.
If this had been a new children’s hospital that a royal could be a patron for and make visits for and fundraise for, that would have been in line with what Diana did while she was alive. Instead these folks are stuck on who will be present for maybe 45 minutes and a couple of speeches??
The point was to honor Diana’s legacy and that has been pushed aside. ..
There are other tributes to Diana that have been around for years. It isn’t like nothing was done before now. There’s a public playpark in Kensington Park and a massive (albeit trouble-ridden) fountain also.
I despise her more than Baldemort now. Maybe because she is a woman and I expected more humanity from her. I just can’t help myself, I’m recalling her at that golf charity play, and how she played with her children completely ignoring Meghan with Archie. This was so mean! Pure evil. More than hers Commonwealth behavior I think. People can hurt us most through our children. I can endure some things but when the same is done to my kid, I “see red”.
I hope Harry won’t come. And then I don’t care whether she will be there or not. Though if TOB wants divorce she will be better not attend.
Gina, I agree. To not have the grace and class to recognize a newborn baby and his mom at asocial event is to show the world that you are trash. Trash with money, like all the royals.
I sooooo agree with everything you say, @Gina!
PS: it was a charity polo event.
I agree too. Lacey said that Kate had a bad feeling about Meghan from the beginning. I think it was before Meghan even began as a working royal. Kate saw Meghan and thought, oh fck, here comes the first POC in the royal family. She’s going to take the spotlight from me, and I’m the FFQ! I’m the star! I am higher up in the food chain and it is my right!
Kate was jealous of Meghan from day one. And because Meghan was from the real world and the same age as Kate, and way more confident, Kate couldn’t bully her like she did with Chelsy, Cressida and the York sisters.
Getting Carole involved really showed their hand to me. Carole does her first interview and decides to shade Meghan’s work ethic? Nope, that was a jealous and insecure family who helped attack Meghan in the media any time they could …. And still to this day with uncle Gary on the loose again.
Nic919- I didn’t realize that was the first interview Carole had ever done? Wow.
@Gina. Well put. You articulated what I was feeling. Yes!
What bothered me most about the polo event was that George and Charlotte showed no interest in either Meghan or baby Archie. That seemed so unnatural for children their age, especially Charlotte, who was just 4 years old. I found it quite sad. You had to wonder what they might have heard or been told about Meghan, or how much of her they’d ever seen – it was as if there was zero relationship there. The only one who was interested was Louis, who at 15 months old, showed the natural curiosity you’d expect in the situation.
Funny thing is there’s a picture of George looking at Meghan and Archie at the event; he actually looked like he wanted to go see his new cousin. I think it speaks volumes that he and Charlotte were kept away. The Cambridge kids are going to grow up hearing terrible, hateful things about their uncle’s family. It’s why it’s for the best that Harry and Meghan protect their children and keep that branch of the family at arm’s length.
I can basically smell her breath through those nutty laughing photos.
If she thinks campaigning to the public is going to get her an invite, it won’t, literally no one cares. But it is interesting that she has to do this and not just ask her husband directly to go, further proof that all is not well.
Willie already knows kate will make it all about herself, when he wants to make it all about himself. But keen can’t miss an opportunity to exploit a dead person for her own personal gain.
My prediction: Harry attends; Kate doesn’t.
Harry committed to this thing years ago, before the present nastiness. I think he likely feels obligated to follow through on a commitment to his mother’s memory. I think both Harry & William want the focus of this to be on their mother. And I don’t think either of them wants it to turn into a photo op for Kate (I actually think William was more annoyed at her funeral photo op than Harry, who was just there to get on with things). No one could plausibly ban her from Philip’s funeral, but as I said the other day, I’m pretty sure the “William puts his foot down about Meghan attending” was actually about Kate.
So I think we’ll wind up with some sugary things like, “Kate has been part of the Firm long enough to know when to step aside so as not to pull focus. Out of respect for her late mother-in-law, the children’s beloved ‘Granny Diana,’ the Duchess decided to let the two brothers conduct the event without her. She is secure enough in her position that she doesn’t need to make this about her. Privately, she is said to be quietly working to heal the rift….”
+1
I could definitely see your last paragraph being the angle they go with!
Except that the Spencers are also expected to be there. Other close acquaintances (perhaps including representatives of the major charities Diana supported…eg Halo Trust and AIDS charities…and other well-wishers and friends, to the limit allowed by Covid restrictions. So why in heaven’s name would the spouses and children of her heirs not be there?
If M could travel she would definitely be there, as well as their children. As it is, I feel strongly that there will be streaming of the event and perhaps M might even say something and…..holding breath….perhaps even have Lili and Archie with her!! (Fingers crossed).
William forbade Harry from bringing Meghan to events honoring Diana before. I am sure that both she and Harry are done with events where William has the power to gatekeep like that. Harry might go because it is his mother but that will be it. There is no reason to get the children involved in an event where William will poison it. I wouldn’t begrudge them attending but this is not the only way to honor his mother and Harry and Meghan know it.
And William doesn’t want Kate next to him in public these days, so that explains that, if she ends up not going.
I mean, my prediction is worth about as much as you paid for it lol.
It’s on a weekday, so the children would have to be pulled out of school, which they might do. But it’s also a perfectly good reason for them not to be there. Having the Spencers makes sense in that the point of this is to center Diana. Same for the charities–I’m sure both of her sons know it would be important to highlight her work & impact. Having Kate attend doesn’t really do anything to keep the focus on Diana. I think William & Kate/Carole are sort of fighting this out in the press currently. We’ll see who wins. But she was nowhere to be seen on Father’s Day, so I have my suspicions.
@Maria…for heavens sake bullyiam does not have any power to “forbid” Harry from having his wife with him anywhere he wants her to be!
At this kind of event? Yes, William does. He will throw a tantrum, and as he is the Heir the grey men will make it happen, because it coincides with what they want too: edging Meghan out.
If William was able to ban Meghan from a private memorial service for Diana at Althorp (this happened) he can do it here too if he wishes. And even if he doesn’t, the fact that he has that power is enough for Meghan not to want to participate I am sure. And I am also sure Harry as her husband knows it is less detrimental to her well-being and mental health this way.
If Kate does go, and I think she naturally will, she will have been dressed down beforehand and threatened with a muzzle and handcuffs to keep her from trying that peacemaker nonsense again. If she’s there, she won’t be given free rein to walk here or there … she’ll have a seat in the audience with a security guard handcuffed to her to keep her down. Will and Harry do not want the same pre-event articles talking up how Kate will save the brothers like we got for poor Philip’s funeral.
I don’t agree that this will be the event where we will see Lili. We would never hear the end of how the Sussexes selfishly tried to co-opt the event by showing off their new baby, and I think they are self-aware enough to know that. It is entirely possible that we will see Meghan virtually, but I would absolutely bet no on the kids.
Actually, William as FFK does have the upper hand on whether or not Meghan attends. He also has daddy’s backing. However this is moot because Meghan just gave birth, is nursing, and the last thing on earth she’d want to do is make an arduous, stressful trip to a bitter, ugly country only to have the fury of the Cambridges and attending media frenzy unleashed on her yet again. She’ll likely do a heartfelt video tribute to Diana and that will be that.
If only Charles Spencer had told William it is HIS property and he wanted Harry AND Meghan there. William does not own Althorp nor does he have any say in who goes to pay tribute to Diana.
@Tessa – Diana’s statue will reside at Kensington Palace, not Althrop. Charles Spencer had nothing to do with it’s location, nor does he have final say over who would attend the ceremony.
@lizzie if you ever need a job you could write for the DM girl that was scary accurate
I mean I always assumed that she would go. In my opinion it would look really weird if she didn’t. I think it would play into the rumors that their marriage ain’t so good.
More of the speculation and false stories like the many that were put out all around the Funeral of Prince Phillip. I think they have a “Prince Harry is arriving” template they are using for these rehashed and inaccurate stories.
Harry and William will both give speeches? You’d think that Will would be upset at the thought of dueling speeches when Harry can speak so well and so persuasively. Is there any place in the world, any service, any words, anything at all where Harry does not outshine the nightmare older brother?
Nope. LOL
And thats whats killing bullyiam and his puppeteers-in-grey-suits.
There was a story a few weeks ago about how it was supposed to be one speech, signed by both brothers, and Harry said NOPE, I’ll do my own lol.
Kate wants to go. Carole wants Kate to go. William & Harry don’t want Kate to go. I mean…it would be understandable if she didn’t go since Meghan can’t make it. But when you’re insecure in your marriage and your standing in the family, you bogart your way to the front of the crowd to pay homage to your dead mother-in-law, in her signature jewels, in some godawful coatdress copied from Diana’s wardrobe in the 80s.
Yeah, I think William and Harry don’t want her there but she is DESPERATE to be there so she can be all over Harry and play Diana dress up.
“…how their relationship has altered since Harry and Meghan’s bombshell interview with Oprah Winfrey.”
Lacey, give it up. The relationship was ruined before they got chased out of “Merrie Olde England” with Meghan suicidal and Harry fearful for their safety. Doesn’t get much worse than that; their interview with Oprah, if anything, was soft pedaling the damage that had already been done.
Its so obvious that KP got to Lacey and bought him off. If they could withdraw the original book and pretend no one has read/seen/heard him discuss excerpts of it already, they would give it the Men In Black (the movie) memory-erasure treatment. LMAO
Hence, their next-best was to make Lacey write almost a whole other book with that 12-chapter addition…..such desperation. Now suddenly he’s out there saying almost the exact opposite of what he said before, as covered by this very site.
@Jaded…I think you are correct in that the soft-pedalled much in that interview…
“Kate is the keenest linchpin to ever button.” 😂 😂 😂
I think it’s Harry who doesn’t want Keen there. Probably saying no wives.
Does this really seem like Harry’s M.O. though, walking around with a puffed chest demanding people be banned from events? I don’t think so. Sounds much more like Big Bully William’s jam to me.
It’s Bulliam for sure. He makes it painfully obvious every time they’re together that he’d rather be miles away from her.
I am so tired of “bombshell” always being attached to the Oprah Winfrey interview. In the future, I hope they say the Sussexes have 16 bombshell bathrooms!
Best laugh today, thanks @betsyh!!
I guess I just can’t imagine Harry going at this point. It’s just a statue for goodness’s sake, it’s not like Diana herself is coming down from the heavens for one day. (Though if she did, I’m pretty sure she would visit Montecito and her grandbabies there.) Harry has put a lovely photograph of “Grandma Diana” in Archie’s and (I’m sure) Lili’s rooms. That’s better than any statue. Why would he go to a statue unveiling and go through the risk and bother of dealing with his family and the British press? I can’t see any reason for him to go at all.
Exactly. I’d stay away. The memories are the important thing, and the continuation of her legacy within your family values and work. It’s turned into a public farce and an opportunity to rip into him again. Leave W&K to it; let them have their pathetic day.
I’m still not convinced that she won’t show, but I do find it interesting that she’s not accompanying TOB to this mini Scotland trip with the queen. She’d never willingly pass up an opportunity to be seen and photographed with her.
The only reason she is not going on that trip is because she was explicitly told “no.” (by whom? William? the queen?)
Becks1- well I keep thinking it’s William that wouldn’t want her at the unveiling or on this trip. But lol maybe it’s the Queen in regards to this trip. Seems like the Queen does not have much patience for Kate. Or could be Charles, through EY, trying to reign in the middletons. However, it’s prime vacation time and I wonder if Kate just doesn’t have the patience for these events anymore either.
Maybe both, though I lean towards William being especially vocal. This just makes the hoopla of whether Kate’s attending or skipping the unveiling even weirder IMO.
Bottom line is, Kate BLEW IT BIG TIME on that Scotland tour, doing her Scottish flag cosplay crap…and they met ONE citizen and had “tea.” Pleeease. That tour was laughed at by the whole world, and Scotland was P!SSED. Seriously p!ssed…they hated that these two entitled, out of touch nobodies landed on their turf just to coax them into NOT going independent, because, after all where would we go if Balmoral was suddenly not in the UK!?!?!
So she has been SHELVED, and the real power is going to Scotland, with her second-in-line, Will. I wonder if they’ll chat about divorce on the train….
I think the Scotland trip is about future heirs and continuity which is why it is just the Queen and William. And yes Anne is going a few days later, but she is less likely to piss off the Scots. Kate is a flake and the Queen probably doesn’t want to have to deal with her issues and the awkwardness of her and William together.
Doesn’t anyone think that from the children’s point of view this ‘Granny Diana’ nonsense is just morbid schmaltz. I never knew my maternal Grandfather and his wife died when I was 5. My children have never known their paternal grandparents as they died many many years before they were born. It’s one thing to sigh ‘I wish I’d known Grandpa’ in conversation and another to get small children allegedly writing ‘Granny Diana ‘ cards. As for Keen making Prince Philip’s funeral all about herself I’m speechless. The RF have done nothing to stop the Middletons. It’s time someone did.
No comparison really, ChattyCath, because the fact is Diana was, as they called her, “the most famous woman in the world.” I never knew 3 of my grandparents, and no one mentioned it. But Diana was Diana: it is natural, especially with their historic royal family lines, that the children are “introduced” to Diana as early as possible, that they know her as their grandmother, and they learn about her from their parents FIRST, before they’re old enough to read all the stuff we know of her and the way she was dealt with so badly by the RF.
No way the Duchess of Attentionwhoring and her Mumsy miss this.
My tin foil tiara theory:
Wills is tired of Kate, and Kate knows it. She had Louis as an attempt to strengthen the marriage, but it didn’t work. She’s disliked and been jealous of Meg from the get go because Meg is the things Wills is mad at her for not being: poised, well- spoken, articulate, competent. Meanwhile, Wills doesn’t want Meg and Harry marrying because he sees his control of Harry slipping away. He does not like Harry putting Meg first. Hence he had “concerns” about her and tried to prevent the marriage. They were racist sounding but may have just been concern trolling, whatever.
Kate tried to help stop the wedding in her own way, hence the crying incident. But wedding went through. Gears shifted to making her a degree wife. Both Kate and Will worked on that through staff, hence the Sussexes leaving KP. But the pregnancy/Oceana tour got the smear campaign in overdrive with the Cambridges seemingly having a better marriage (or so Kate thought) cause they were working together against Meg. The goal: get rid of Meg and Archie. But then Wills, unknown to Kate, would kill two birds by getting rid of Kate too, as she’d get blamed for the smears on Meg.
The whole plan was Will wanting Meg and Kate gone so he could be King with Harry as his whipping boy. It all backfired, with Sussexit. Will is pissed, blames Kate. Wants out even more, but now no chance cause Harry was supposed to get divorced first and lay the groundwork, giving Wills precedent and a bus to throw Kate under.
Chuck and TQ are just inept and it’s all a mess. Kate is desperate, but Wills is digging her grave…these embiggening articles are doing the work for him.
My thoughts.
This really doesn’t sound that farfetched at all. Lol
This is BANG ON TARGET, @Rapunzel. Absolutely. Watch this space…
Harry’s possibly thinking that no matter what he decides it’s weeks of abusive headlines ala the funeral and then the naming. So he’s definitely going to do what HE thinks is best for him, his family and his mother’s memory.
If harry doesn’t go, William’s best play is to keep Kate away. Then he can play up the ‘poor son, trying to put aside differences and honor his mom and his awful, selfish brother can’t even put his pettiness aside to show up’ narrative. Lonely William in front of the statue would be his ‘Diana alone at the Taj Mahal’ photo.
I feel like the media is forgetting that this unveiling is supposed to be about Princess Diana. I personally think the ONLY two people who should be there should be the brothers aka her children. Now, if Harry were not to appear (which I doubt, he’s going) then sure let Kate appear with her husband but my goodness it’s about DIANA!!!! If one man’s wife is going to appear then the other should appear as well, if Meghan isn’t coming then Kate can sleep in.
It’s clear that Kate wants to be the only woman in William and Harry’s lives (especially Harry’s). Probably Harry never realized it for years. Maybe he still doesn’t. When you have an unappetizing husband, a succulent brother-in-law just hits the spot. I think it is all fantasy for Kate. I don’t believe she would really make a play for Harry. But it’s clear she resents Meghan for breaking up the “threesome” and being better than Kate in every way. All Kate can do is starve herself (at least she “wins” in that department) and try to re-imagine the threesome in whatever ways she can, including the Diana statue unveiling. To say something nice about Kate, I truly believe she adores her children and is a good mum to them.
Holy cow this statue thing is a cash cow.
We are collectively going to complain about outlets using speculation for clicks…with a straight face.
Well, yes, because the RR speculation that we complain about is rife with racist abuse and is in bed with racist Royals. That would be the difference between their speculation and ours.
Harry left late this afternoon around 4 or 5 clock-he will be in covid protocols for 5 days before the statute unveiling. the same protocols used when his grandfather died in April.
Kate and her children shouldn’t be there in the unveiling. She always calls attention to herself. She’s not the important woman being celebrated. It is the one and only Princess Diana . Only her two sons should be there. Keep off Kate !