It’s cute that some people think that Prince William and Prince Harry will ever find a way to reconcile. Robert Lacey, the Royal Rota and the palace courtiers have atried to make it sound like there are reconciliation plans afoot, and that all that’s really needed is action by the Sussexes. When really, William doesn’t want to reconcile. He just doesn’t. He’s the problem and he’s the one who could do so much to end it. He doesn’t want peace and maturity, he wants capitulation from Harry. Failing that, he just wants Harry and Meghan gone. William can’t even play along for a few days with the obvious scheme cooked up by his aides and Buckingham Palace, which is that a reconciliation could possibly be in the cards. Nope. How do I know this? Because William cannot shut up about how angry he is. Yes, William is Forever Incandescent With Rage.
The early signs do not augur well for Prince William and Prince Harry reuniting joyfully this Thursday for the unveiling of the statue of their mother at Kensington Palace, where they grew up. William is still “reeling” over Harry and Meghan’s allegations in their bombshell Oprah Winfrey interview, including the as-yet-unsolved mystery of a royal racist, as well as claims about William and Charles feeling “trapped.”
“William is still angry about it,” a close friend of both brothers told the U.K. Sunday Times. “It’s despair, as well as anger.”
The brothers will make separate tributes on Thursday to their mother.
“Neither are offering an olive branch,” a close friend of both brothers told The Sunday Times. “I fear it will be the same as at Prince Philip’s funeral, a nod of recognition, and that’s about it.”
However, another friend told The Sunday Times to expect the best: “It will all be lovely. They’ve just got to get out of whatever moods they’re in and make it about their mother,” another source opined. Another source thought, “On the day, it will be difficult to separate the statue from the occasion, which is now loaded with all sorts of unwelcome baggage.”
A source close to the brothers in 2017, when the statue was commissioned and they were closer, told The Sunday Times: “I remember being with them when they commissioned the statue, looking at all the maquettes together. And then all the unity around the 20th anniversary documentaries. They watched each other’s interviews, they wanted to hear what the other was saying. They were so close. It’s so sad to see it come to this.”
Prince Charles will not play a role in Thursday’s ceremony. “He does find it terribly difficult,” a friend told the paper. “These moments have the potential to resurface old wounds, and it brings back memories for him; happy, sad, regretful. Since Diana’s death, he has felt it’s best to keep those memories to himself and leave his sons to it.”
With Meghan back in California, it seems unlikely Kate will be at Thursday’s ceremony either. The Sunday Times says William may visit the statue privately with her and their children.
[From The Sunday Times & The Daily Beast]
Quelle surprise, William is telling anyone who will listen that he’s “angry.” He doesn’t know any other emotion other than anger. Good luck to those crisis managers too! And why, perchance, would Harry “offer an olive branch”? William was the one being a racist a–hole. William is still briefing against Harry and attacking Harry’s wife. It’s a fantasy to think that Harry and William will be fine with each other minus Kate Thee Keen too. While William has his own reasons for telling Kate to stay home, make no mistake that William is still going to be grim and nasty to his brother, with or without Kate there.
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Truth hurts, doesn’t it Princess William the Incandescent. Get over it.
Please don’t call him Princess. Let’s stop making “being a girl” a slur towards men. There are so many awesome William nicknames, many created right here on Celebitchy!
P*nis With Teeth is my favourite.
Agreed. Being a girl should never be an insult.
One of my favorite nicknames for him is The Other Brother because it is so dismissive. You know he hates that.
I agree with this, and also to risk sounding like a pearl clutcher I personally have a hard time with the other nicknames as well. I think insulting someone using their looks or appearance isn’t great. If someone used insults like that in regards to people whose side we were on, we’d have something to say about it.
We don’t need to push people down to raise others up.
*off my sensitive soapbox* 🙂
Yes!
@Vavavoom
Well then, fortunately,: TheOtherBrother/Bullyiam/Willieleaks are just 3 nicknames for Mr Incandescent that come to mind immediately and if you notice, they all describe his behaviour, not his person. And which he deserves to be called.
Unlike PenisWithBigTeeth or Baldemort (which, btw, I strongly believe he deserves to be called also.)
I’m good with PWT because the other word used to describe is rage, besides incandescent, is “engorged”
I’m good with PWT because the other word used to describe is rage, besides incandescent, is “engorged”
I’m good with PWT because the other word used to describe is rage, besides incandescent, is “engorged”
I look at these ridiculous palace people and all I can think of is that old, old Monty Python skit, “Upperclass Twit of the Year.” It must be on YouTube — Heavens! They’re digging their own graves and can’t see it.
Elizabeth.. that was my exact thought when I saw the headline
I can already predict the obvious differences between the two brothers speeches. William will throw digs at his own mother and at his brother too. Harry will be lovely and blast the press.
He’s mad because it’s true.
Ding ding ding!
In the discussion yesterday, someone listed out possible “secrets” the press might be holding on other brother, and how none of them (barring violence) were actually that big of a deal.
But to gaslighters/control freaks, The Truth is what they’re terrified of. That’s it. Like a certain ex president, just the actual facts being different from what they said is what scares them.
An aside, my first reaction to everything is being mad also, it’s easier than icky feelings like sad or scared. But I’ve worked on it, so I look for what’s under the mad. I’m not saying he doesn’t have problems, just saying some people do go to anger first, it’s not always unhealthy.
@Lucy … Yes, but he’s been stuck in/on ‘anger’ since 2018 at least. William definitely would have been one of the ‘Off with their head!’ monarchs of the past.
HE’s predictably salty. He’s gonna be king, he’s gonna have the reigns of the money, he will be the ultimate CEO, everyone in the family has to cater to him, to appease him, and they do so because of interest. Harry has left. He cannot control whatever Charles or Elizabeth give Harry as inheritance, but I bet he will try to put his foot down.
He has the status quo behind him and cannot bear his younger brother leaving his influence, so he will continue to punish him. What are his chances for healing? Close to none.
Here is my question, the Queen could easily live another 5 – 10 years. If Charles refuses to make Willy the Prince of Wales, does that mean he won’t get his hand on the Duchy of Cornwall and all of its money?
As far as I know, as it stands now, Charles and the Queen hold ALL of the purse strings. William has Diana’s money, assuming he hasn’t burned through it already.
Willy can shriek “Just you wait until I’m in charge!” all he wants, he still won’t have his hands on that money for a LONG time.
It is my understanding that the Duke of Cornwall title and funds are automatically conferred upon The Other Brother the moment Charles ascends the throne. It is separate to the Prince of Wales title.
@Lise is correct. When Charles becomes king, William automatically becomes the Duke of Cornwall. The Prince of Wales title is what I think charles is going to hold over his head.
@lise
Thanks. He’s still got a while before he can get his hands on it. And I feel like if Charles is concerned about William running it into the ground, he would put as many roadblocks and restrictions in place to minimize what Will can do. I just can’t see Charles allowing Will destroy his decades of hard work.
And if continues to be such a horrible tyrant, I can see the Queen cutting him out of her inheritance and only setting money aside for the Cambridge kids and putting strict parameters on that too.
I have a delusional fantasy that Charles makes Harry the Prince of Wales instead. I know it’s crazy, a girl can dream though.
William automatically becomes Duke of Cornwall, but he doesn’t inherit anything personally. The Duchy doesn’t belong to the Windsors, there is a board that oversees how all the money is spent.
I hope William and Harry will set aside all differences and make this about their mother.
Harry has a principled position and it doesnt affect a task such as the one he has on Thursday. Said task doesnt require him to “set aside” his principled position.
And FYI for anyone who doesnt know what H’s principled position is, its this:
until the Firm (meaning BP as the seat of the organization’s power and, more specifically, KP as the source of the wrong) takes responsibility for libeling his wife and move to correct the record, there will be no “reconciliation.”
William was racist and abusive to Harry’s wife and children. This is not a “difference,” this is protecting his family from bigots.
I swear whiteness is a mental illness.
Oh Lord, William’s speech is going to be an absolute disaster, isn’t it? Just totally passive aggressive and full of underhanded digs. I bet he says “my mother” instead of “our,” or maybe something like “while some might say my mother was trapped, in reality blah blah blah.”
Maybe we should start a Bingo card now…
OTOH, Harry’s speech could say “while some might say my mother was paranoid…” Knowing Harry, he will rise above all the nastiness. A true king.
Guaranteed that Harry’s speech will be about Diana, not Harry.
Does Raging Will have literally NOTHING else to do? One would think the FFK would have some other items to occupy his mind —like the people of GB and their many needs—but it appears he just spends all day actively being angry. Does he sit in a chair, angry? Pace the floor, angry? Take hot baths and scream at the bubbles? What kind of “man” is this?
No, it really seems that he doesn’t.
Even with Charles, the line trotted out was that he was disappointed and he wanted to do the point by point rebuttal and then it switched to “but he’s just going to focus on work” and then you know what? It seemed that Charles DID just focus on work. We’ve gotten some additional leaks about how Charles is sad or disappointed some more or confused about Harry or whatever, but it’s all seemed pretty mild compared to William just being incandescent with rage all the time. And we’ve seen Charles pretty much back to his usual schedule.
Meanwhile William has barely been seen, its kind of weird. What has he been doing? Just screaming about Harry?
Agreed. Plus, he hasn’t been looking well lately. There is something really off with him.
His big cause is mental health and yet he fails to recognize that he needs anger management treatment.
No one has an easier, more direct path to fame and wealth than he does, and all he had to do was be born. Every mistake he made was fixed, every emotion coddled, every action praised. A better man would realize that the position comes with great privilege and responsibility, but not Will-di Amin. He has spent the last five years seething with jealousy, and the last 2 years wallowing in bitterness. Why isn’t all that he has, his wife, mistress (es), children, palaces, wealth, privilege, opportunity, why isn’t that enough? And why won’t anyone in the U.K. media explore that? That fact in itself is reeking with pathology. He shouldn’t even give a damn about Meghan. I don’t think Charles ever gave a damn about Fergie or Sofiesta.
Good lord, don’t these people have any dignity?
A loving brother would be angry that Harry was attacked in the press and felt that he had to leave. A loving brother who was innocent of racist remarks would be up in arms wanting to know who made a remark about his nephew. Of course, a loving father and grandfather would do the same. So are both Charles and Will guilty of remarks or one covering the other? Maybe all the recent articles about Will calling Meghan names is trying to subtly out him as the racist? Only Will found it necessary to publicly declare “not racist”.
Is he mad cause Harry said he’s trapped or is he mad cause Harry’s right?
I think if PWT finally gets rid of keen and is actually happy, he may change. Charles is less disgusting now that he is with Cams. I think once he leaves keen he will abdicate rather than have it taken away.
If William has any love for his eldest son he will not abdicate (at least for the next 20-30 years). Being king would be a terrible curse for a child/teenager/young adult.
So is he angry about the Oprah interview or ‘that bloody woman’? I need a whiteboard or a flow chart to track his rage.
Also I’m here to say nothing that Harry does is his business and there is no reason for the rage. How Harry affects him as king is decades away, and it is never one siblings place to criticize the others choice of a partner. Doesn’t he have his own job and family to occupy him without his nose in the Sussex business?
I mean there was a Times piece on Charles where it talked about him wanting to do all he can before coming king as he would be more hamstrung in that role. His staff even referred to it (king role) as a jailhouse or something. His friend Selina Scott quoted him as saying he was trapped as he couldn’t determine his destiny. Then William’s press in his 20s until like 2016 referred to him hating his destiny & wanting to escape to the US. When Harry said in 2016-nobody wants to be king I always thought that was based on conversations with his father & sibling.
And it’s clear that William’s approach to the press has changed even though I doubt his animosity towards them has.
So we are in complete agreement that it was definitely Baldimort that had issues with Archie skin color.
100%. I never had any doubt but I think everyone should now be on board with this.
Agree. Baldemort the color dictator
100%
I’m beginning to wonder if he didn’t’ say it as some kind of “joke”…like he joked about a fellow being stripped searched for bringing him pizza.
Because it was a “joke” why the hell isn’t anyone laughing, Willy?
“There were several conversations,” “I heard from several members of the family.”
I love how the narrative we’re all comfortable with is that only one person asked about Archie’s skin colour. Because racists happen in a vacuum. There can only be one per family.
Bullying is often couched as joking. ‘Hey, don’t be so sensitive I was only joking’.
There’s a saying, “Many a true thing is said with a smile.” Whether it was one or several people who may have tried to pass this off as a joke, they meant every word of it. But l believe William instigated this “ha, ha, Harry, where’s your sense of humor?”
The number of times a white person has compared me and mine to monkeys, calling it a “joke…”
They know what they’re doing. They always do. It’s only other white people who give them the benefit of the doubt, thus becoming accessories to bigotry.
STOP.
It was more than one conversation, likely more than one person. My money is on both William and Kate making offensive, racist comments.
I think William was the first one to say it, right when he was trying to dissuade Harry from marrying Meghan. But let’s be honest, from what Meghan said (“multiple conversations”), I really doubt he was the only one.
Republic Republic!!
These sources are funny and all over the place. He feels anger but also despair. Despair is a serious word. Imagine Meghan felt that a lot. Juxtapose that source with the one that is clearly smoking something when they say “it will all be lovely.” That is some serious delusion right there.
This maybe an unpoular opinion but this ridiculous fight with Prince William and Prince Harry is breaking their mother’s heart (Princess Diana). Just putting out there.
So we all better hope that William cleans up his act, right?
But it’s not ridiculous. It’s very serious and has caused serious harm to Meghan and Harry.
The thing is that the status quo is behind one of them, with all the courtiers and media having his back, while the other has been reacting to all this orchestrated attacks.
It is an uneven “fight”, and even if there are no winners, Harry and his family have been treated so unfairly.
Diana has been dead for decades. There is no heart to be broken. Sometimes siblings just drift apart, and it’s for the best.
Diana knew what it was like to be betrayed, used, and abandoned by her brother. Just as Harry knows what it is like to be betrayed, used, and abandoned by his brother.
This rift is all of William’s making.
Cocoa, “this ridiculous fight with Prince William and Prince Harry”. Ridiculous? That isn’t the word that I would use. W&K very deliberately smeared Meghan. Very deliberately. The result of this smear campaign is hate and death threats. The smears continue and they’ve been out of the UK since March 2020. I personally would use the word “dangerous”. Since the smears continue and in some instance are worse, I have to wonder how many people in the brf want Meghan, the children, and possibly Harry, dead. You call that ridiculous? Really? There are consequences to actions–EVERY TIME. The fact that they know this and continue with this abuse tells a story of its own.
William’s “friends” talk a lot. If William doesn’t see that what he did to Harry and Meghan is the cause of the rift then no reconciliation will take place.
I think Meg coming into the family showed Wills just how trapped he is, which is why he hates her and Harry now. He’s jealous of their freedom.
Also, tin foil tiara time: maybe he’s got a mistress he’d like to get legit with and Harry’s exit prevented that.
I also wonder if he hates Meg because maybe when Kate made her cry, it was because Meg was trying to encourage Kate not to put up with Wills’ philandering? Wills would hate to be called out on that.
Dont get it twisted. M wasnt giving kHate any advice when kHate made M cry AT M’S OWN WEDDING preparation, FFS.
“As yet unsolved mystery of a royal racist”. I think pretty much the whole world has solved that “mystery”.
Harry has come into his own, with or without Meghan he’s never going back to being William’s wingman (a story peddled this weekend – something along the line of that’s what Diana would have wanted)
On a podcast yesterday it was mentioned that Harry refused to show up for the statue unveiling if the Rota was there and that William was fine with Harry not being there, but the Rota wanted a picture of the two brothers and was willing not to be there if that meant they get the picture of Harry. I think Harry asked for an international photographer because he or she would be less invested in shading Harry in the pictures.
Possible that this all works in Charles’ favour to keep bad press off him during Diana recollections? Imagine, if the brothers were actually getting along: negative press coverage might have focused on Charles and Diana instead (especially since the story has been revived with the Crown on Netflix). Lots of ways that this sibling dispute can be used to others’ advantage.
Yep, the divide and conquer strategy.
Doubtful. William abusing Harry for all of Harry’s life, William attacking the love of Harry’s life, William the racist questioning the skintone of Harry’s future children, William continually briefing against Harry and Meghan for four years, William’s staff SO’s caught selling secrets about Harry and Meghan? That isn’t Charles worried about a statue, that’s on William.
Sure but let’s not act like William isn’t the one giving Charles the ammunition (if he is in fact getting involved). He’s doing it to himself and because of that, Charles really doesn’t need to get involved and help William dig his own grave with regards to his relationship with Harry.
Choose between me and your wife and family? What brother asks that? William is a jerk.