Prince Harry’s “friends” have been talking a lot since we learned about Harry’s memoir. It feels like so many of his “friends” couldn’t wait to run to the Sunday Times, the Daily Mail and the Telegraph to threaten Harry with exposure if he… like, tells his own story. I don’t know. It’s all very hysterical and it’s giving me deja vu to other dumb stories in recent years, where the British press is trying so hard to make certain Sussex issues into controversies and most people just don’t give a sh-t. Maybe that’s just me being jaded, I don’t know. Anyway, one of Harry’s “friends” claimed that Harry has a “Prince Andrew complex” about being forgotten or overlooked.
Prince Harry harbours a ‘Prince Andrew complex’ and fears he has a ‘limited shelf-life’ before the public become ‘more interested in Prince George, Princess Charlotte and Prince Louis’, a friend of the royal has claimed.
The Duke of Sussex, 36, who is currently living in his $14 million mansion in Santa Barbara, has given a series of explosive interviews since he stepped back from royal duty last year.
A friend has said he ‘always been in such a rush to make an impact’ before he begins to slip down the pecking order in the royal family.’
Speaking to The Sunday Times, the companion said: ‘Harry has always been in such a rush to make an “impact”, because he thinks he has a limited shelf-life before the public want to hear more from George and his siblings and he worries that after that, he’ll turn into his uncle.’
Eh, I feel like this is actually more complicated than “this is a total lie” or “this is the God’s honest truth.” Before Harry met Meghan, he was already aware of the fact that the monarchy would eventually be all about William and his children. That was why Charles always insisted that the streamlined monarchy was going to be about Harry and William assuming major positions and all of that. Which fell apart as soon as Harry met Meghan, because suddenly the monarchy didn’t need Harry or his American wife. Until Charles, William and the courtiers figure that out – whether Harry is vital to the monarchy or he isn’t – there will always be this back and forth. Anyway, I don’t think Harry feels like he has a ticking clock over his head, I think he was totally fine with staying in his lane and doing the work he passionately loved. It was his father and brother who had a problem with that because they both hated how charismatic Harry is and how easily Harry overshadowed them.
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I was wondering how much Harry’s mansion costs. I would almost forget it if Daily Fail didn’t remind me, phew
And what about the bathrooms? 😉
Oh wow, we need to write to them right away and remind them to include this crucial information next time
Is it 16 or 87 I can’t remember? How many bathrooms does Kensington Palace have I wonder? Lord they are working on our nerves
Gee, I wonder how many bathrooms it has? 😉
I think 16 but don’t quote me on that /s. My husband asked me about it and I had to walk him through why someone would have that many bathrooms and then he was like oh that makes sense.
I know. They have to put the price in every article. I get it – it’s an expensive house, a mansion, lots of bells and whistles. He’s rich and he lives in a rich person’s house.. It’s not a double wide trailer. Blah, blah, blah But i think we can move on from that now.
I remember – it was 14 million dollar mansion
I’ve been thinking about this, and 14 million in Montecito sounds like a median price. Yknow? I bet there are much more lavish places. In the San Francisco suburbs, so many relatively normal family homes are offered for 5-7million in the current market- no tennis courts attached! I cannot stress enough how expensive the housing market is in CA. Whereas, in the UK suburbs you could probably buy an estate the size of the Sussexes home for a fraction of the cost. UK homeowners weigh in, I was a London renter for a few years back in the day, but no idea about the situation now.
I live in CA and yes the housing market here is crazy, but I was also quite surprised to find out my in-laws 3br UK home in the suburbs would likely sell for the equivalent of $1mil USD. So I’m sure the UK has it’s share of pricey real estate.
Their home may not be palatial but it is definitely upscale. And the median home price in Montecito is $4mil, so even within that quite wealthy enclave, they have gotten something more than “normal”. They’ve absolutely earned it and I suspect that going for something more budget would present security issues (there’s only so much you can do to secure half a duplex for example!). I don’t care for how the DM is making out they have an insane home but let’s also not pretend they are in anything “normal” or “median”.
Ikr? 😆
I believe it – but in the sense that his “shelf life” was limited if he had to follow the Royal Family’s rules about working (doing only what they wanted him to do, when they wanted him to do, and siphoning off the money from the fundraising). After a while, he would lose relevance because they wouldn’t let him actually do anything relevant. His escape has shown that he is working now to remain relevant (I don’t mean that as an insult – but through his philanthropy and public messaging) well past any RF limitations.
Relevant in Harry’s case would equal “living a life with meaning and working towards improving people’s lives, reducing suffering and increasing joy”
Wouldn’t the world be a nicer place if all people tried to be “relevant” like that.
What they have said is not news. I personally have seen interview where Harry has said what the article has said but without the shelf life part, so no ‘friend’ had to tell them that. Someone who has receipts can post the interview, but he essentially said he wanted to make an impact before George and Charlotte gets older, but he said it in a joking way to me, but that interview is there
honestly, I don’t understand why anyone would have a problem with someone working to make the impact they can while they have the platform to do so, especially if they know they will only have that platform for a limited period of time. It’s not about working to be a celebrity and doing things to “remain relevant” for ego’s sake, it’s about making the most of his “life of service” when, if he remained a senior/working royal, he has limited choice in what he’s even allowed to be involved with publicly
@Sheffaneese Knight, I’ve tried finding that article and am not having much success. Most of the interviews/articles I’ve found, in regards to the monarchy, had to do with him wanting to do his duty for the Queen. If someone has a link, please share. Otherwise, it almost sounds like something Angela Levin would have written in trying to sell herself as Harry’s biographer and someone who put together tabloid/BM stories with creative writing about him. I’m good with being corrected. One of my favorite reviews of Levin’s book (I’ll note that I disagree to some extent that William is not like his Gma in embodying the wall unless it’s to his advantage and the disadvantage of Harry), is this following. Love the line about ‘but there’s only so much you can do when the guest of honor fails to show up at the reception’. Angela’s conversations with Harry happened in her head.
https://openlettersreview.com/posts/harry-a-biography-of-a-prince-by-angela-levin
Anyhoo, a friend of Harry’s wouldn’t be talking about this. The only comparative to Andrew is being called a ‘spare’. Harry hasn’t been concerned about the ‘pecking order’ or making an impact before George & Charlotte-it would be something he felt internally to do like Diana regardless of anyone else.imo He has questioned for a very long time whether or not royal life was for him. Way before Meghan. I’m sure the fact that William’s f&ck ups being protected and his weren’t, attributed to Harry’s knowledge that the royal life wasn’t what he or his mother would want for a life worth living. I don’t see him thinking he had a ‘shelf life’. Working, doing good things and caring about others is something that is probably inherent in him (and Meghan just made it that much moreso that it was okay). Granted he wasn’t in the USA Army, but, he kind of exemplifies & embraces the slogan ‘Be All You Can Be’.
The royals are always eclipsed by the younger generation. We live in a society obsessed with youth.
Harry’s identity isn’t tied to the monarchy and they can’t stand it.
The only thing William has going for him is his futur role. He’s not charismatic, he’s not particularly intelligent, he doesn’t have anything like Invictus or any other projects that have had any significant impact on people’s lives.
Without the crown, he is nothing. But Harry will always be Harry.
+1, well said.
+2 again, well said
We need a like button up in here yo!
They’re talking about a Prince Harry that doesn’t exist anymore. Harry is not the same person he was pre-Meghan. He may have been concerned *at one point* about his position or what his role would be, but hello, that’s all null and void now. It’s as if they are pretending he didn’t move to another continent and is living an entirely different life. The desperation is so pitiful to watch.
IKR? 2015 called and wants its story back.
Excruciatingly but laughably pitiful, is what it is……this need to try to diminish H&M.
Its not surprising that they told M, right off the bat, that she needed to reduce herself by at least 50% so that she wouldnt outshine those ahead of her in the pecking order.
I mean, where else but in cults is a person required to do that!?!
I think it was more like – Harry really wanted to make a significant impact in his life and NOT end up like Andrew, a useless, train wreck of a human who leached off the taxpayer. If the Cambridge kids came into it in any way, it was because he knew how the system worked and where the money and support for projects would go once they became old enough to work. He was already fighting with William over getting money from Charles.
I think the continuing attempts to equate Harry and Andrew are gross and offensive. Whatever Andrew may once have been (and admittedly he was a young, handsome, glamorous war hero back in the 80s), right now he is a public embarrassment and utterly toxic – whatever people may think about the British media and the British people more broadly, one thing that everyone in the UK is united on is a hatred of paedophiles to the point where they get publicly lynched when it becomes common knowledge where they live. Now, that’s not likely to happen to Andrew, but he certainly can’t be rehabilitated. The best he can hope for is to keep a low profile out of the public eye and hope it all goes away, unlikely when the Maxwell trial will be all over the news.
And I don’t see interest in Harry and Meghan waning. Whatever people think about them, they are INTERESTING. They are intelligent, they have views, causes, and they keep busy. They have lots of celebrity friends and allies, and the British media are nothing if not star fuckers. They have two children that will inevitably receive lots of attention from the US and UK media, no matter how far down the line of succession they get. The Sussex family might never be seen in public or speak in public again and people will follow them because of who they are and what they represent to millions of people around the world. Love them or hate them, people want to know about them.
Yeah, something tells me Harry is not concerned that he will one day turn into a pedo like his uncle.
I can see him being concerned that he would be relegated to useless playboy status if he didn’t make his own mark – but I don’t think that concern is tied to Billy’s children. I think he’s seen what happens to spares in the family and never intended to let it happen to him. Hence things like Invictus and Sentabale. He’s probably thought about it for a long time.
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Exactly! I REALLY hope he dives into what it’s like to live your life as a “spare” in his book. I often wondered if he had any discussions with Margaret, Anne, Andrew and Edward about it.
I don’t think his feelings had anything to do with Will’s children either. Didn’t Harry say he was happy to move down the line when asked about the Cambridges having another child? I think it was after Charlotte. I think Harry knew he wasn’t going to be fulfilled having to spend his life supporting William or the monarchy, so he tried to create a life outside of that. It’s why he built his own connections and kept Sentebale and Invictus separate. It was smart for him to think ahead in that way.
Well this isn’t news. He stated as much in an interview a few years back. He wants to use the power of the public stage that he has atm to impact things because he knows that in a decade or two no one will care or listen to him. I think that’s why he spent so much of his time as a working royal building things that would last beyond him (invictus, Sentebale)etc. A very healthy realistic attitude if you ask me.
So, I can kind of see this being true, but its more complicated than that – its not a complex like Andrew, where it seems that his problem is that his importance was waning, not just his ability to have an impact. I think for Harry, its just more of a normal realization – you have a window of time to make an impact, before people move on to the younger/shinier/brighter new thing. Some people are able to really extend that window of time (Oprah is a good example of this IMO), and some people are not. I think Harry was always trying to make the most of his “window” because he did know that eventually he would slip down the line of succession AND public interest, and his initiatives would get less coverage ,etc. And now he and Meghan are looking to extend their window as much as possible, and to do as much as they can with what they have now.
I don’t think any of that is really surprising. I think its less about “omg I’m not as important as I used to be in the eye of the public” and more “I need to make the most of this time.”
Harry was always third in line and always knew that when William had kids he would slip down the line. Andrew spent the first 20 years of his life being the second in line and I have to think that he might have thought he had a good “shot” of getting the big job, if Charles never married or had kids (let’s remember that he would be the….third second-born son to be king in the 20th century? right? so it wasn’t that far fetched an idea in his head.) So I think for Andrew, being pushed so fast down the line when Charles did finally marry and have children was a bit of a shock. He went from being the spare to being fourth in line and then even farther down at this point.
Exactly. I don’t think Harry (or Megan) are coming from a place of selfish motivation really, or at least not more than anybody else. I think they want to have a positive impact and are trying to strike while the iron is hot, so to speak. Andrew (and pretty much all the royals) are concerned first and foremost and about power and how it benefits them, not how they can use it to help others.
I think he wouldn’t have been concerned about this if he’d been allowed to stay in the military. Honestly, I think he threw himself into work because he was absolutely miserable and he’s one of those people who buries themselves in work in hopes of outrunning their depression. He was so young when he founded Invictus and seems to have poured his literal soul into it. I think any considerations about impact and the window of time probably came later, after he realized how deep the mental health issue goes in the military and also among men in general, who I think still associate societal stigma to reaching out for help with and opening up about depression, anxiety, etc.
Ooh becks, I am feeling all your thoughts about Andy thinking he had a shot at the crown. Couple of things to support this- andy was born ten years after Anne, so for all practical purposes, he was like a first born, with all the little entitlements that come with that position in the birth order. Secondly, the Queen maternally imprinted on him in a way she didn’t with Charles, boosting his sense of importance, because even before he became aware of Mummy’s importance, he was secure in feeling loved by her as a mother.
As he grew older, as you said, his mind turned to the oddly large number of second sons who ascended to the throne, in his own direct line. (I think to the scene in the crown season 4, in which young Andrew asks Mummy for the York Dukedom when he marries. Not at all far fetched!)
When Andrew was in his late teens, there was a big hullabaloo about Charles not being married yet, or rumours of him being gay (gasp for the 1970s). So in his little mind, he may have been waiting with bated breath for his turn. It was so close!
What a f#%^ed up way to live.
By 1982 Andrew knew that he wasn’t going to be king. Despite that he still wanted the largest wedding he could get and he made sure his daughters were HRH. Andrew always had a massive sense of entitlement that warped his personality so much that he was okay with raping underaged girls caught up in sex trafficking. He was always severely disliked by his colleagues in the navy and there is a reason we don’t hear much from them as opposed to the guys who served with Harry.
Andrew was never going to leave because he wouldn’t survive in the real world without his royal connections and mommy’s money and power to keep him out of jail.
THANK YOU for bringing this where it need to go.
Oh by 1982 of course, and then even more so by 1985 – but it was a fast fall for someone as arrogant and title obsessed as he is/was. He went from being second to being fourth pretty quick there, and if it was in his head that there was a chance he would be king – that’s an even harder fall.
To be clear i’m not putting that in the context of excusing any of his actions with Epstein etc, I’m just saying that his sense of his own self-worth/importance was more exaggerated from the get-go in a way that I don’t think Harry’s ever was – Harry’s “fall” in the line of succession didnt bother him the way it bothered Andrew, Harry welcomed it.
@Becks!
I am genuinely interested in the following: I always read your comments (or at least skim over it & glean the gist of it, as I do with most comments) and heres what I find abt yours that bugs the cr@p out of me: you always, always! are able to commiserate with the purveyors of misinformation about the Sussexes……always able to “…..see this being true….” before you go on with “….but….”
And I find that so maddening. Because in this way, you assist the liars and propagandists in their agenda, helping their lies become subsumed into truths and facts. I believe, gossip notwithstanding, that it is the job of decent people everywhere to identify and reject lies; and speak truth, not only to power but also to lowlifes like the Rotarats and leaky “palace sources,” etc.
And its not as if it isnt possible to point out the lies that are being passed off as plausible. We all know that the lie merchants’ MO is to take a kernel of truth and fold it into their lies so that unsuspecting persons or others who secretly wish to spread the lies, can pass it on.
The diff between your type of approach and that of the many other gossipers on this site is that, before the latter highlight the kernel of truth in the lie-merchants’ statements, they point out the lies, misinformation and propaganda.
Carmen- I have never thought Becks was doing what you accused her of doing. Ever. Becks is one of the most rational posters on this site, and I’ve never felt she was supporting the liars in any way.
Just saying.
Becks1 always has a realistic take on these royal issues, she doesn’t go for conspiracy theory/tin foil hat nonsense. Andrew has come to the end of his relevance, he got there some years ago when he was busted for consorting with all manner of unpleasant warlords, despots and shady characters in order to enrich himself. The Epstein debacle was icing on the cake of his irrelevance. His facade as UK business promoter/diplomatic trade official was revealed to be a sham. Remember his “Airmiles Andy” nickname? Harry obviously knows that at some point in time he won’t be getting the same attention he and Meghan do now, that the RRs will die off or fade away or hopefully go to jail for libel, which is a mature and realistic way of looking at things. His father will ascend to the throne, Willnot and Kannot will continue garnering favourable press for showing up to cut a ribbon or chuck a baby under the chin, and though he’ll continue doing good works and shining a light on mental health issues, the military, climate change, wildlife preservation, etc., it will be done more behind the scenes. He and Meghan are making hay while the sun shines but just because the spotlight won’t be on them with the same intensity in years to come, they’ll still be far more relevant than any other of the lazy toffs in the BRF.
Sorry you don’t like my approach Carmen. I don’t see all these stories as black and white as others may do – and often, there is a kernel of truth in the meat of the story, that the RRs then spin out into lies and exaggerations. Frankly I think its laughable that I’m being accused of furthering the propaganda and lies because you disagree with the ORDER of how I word things in my comments.
And “always” is a strong word to use considering I just started seeing your name pop up here within the past few months.
If you don’t like my comments, you can feel free to pass right over them. No one makes you read them.
Becks is a devil’s advocate where you can clearly see the two sides of a situation dispassionately, the latter being the key word. I believe anyone with cognitive thinking skills would recognize this position and be interested in exploring the issues more in this manner. Andrew is a head case for sure, but l can see where he’s coming from in such an enabling, dysfunctional, power-hungry family. But that certainly doesn’t mean anyone who recognizes this approves of what he’s done or make excuses for him. It’s all part of our discussion in the breakdown of the RF before our eyes and what makes them tick. We may be seeing history in the making and of course there’s going to be a lot of discussion about how this is going down because we’ve never seen a spare waving bye-bye to his position and status. And l think this is what makes Celebitchy different from the rest of the forums out there and anyone who joins should realize this because Celebitches are smart and perceptive!
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I have to say that it’s Beck’s even-handedness that tells me she’s seeing clearly, rather than through rose-colored love glasses. I always appreciate what she has to say.
Hey camren-jamrock- are you saying we should point out the lies and misinformation first before getting to the part where we try to analyze the motivations of the players in this saga, who are all terrible, minus MH, lol. I guess I thought most of us on this site were all starting from the assumption that the kernel of truth is baked into the lies and propaganda and mistruths so I’m not sure it needs to be stated first? Maybe I’m misunderstanding or being naive in that we’re all starting with this basic framework. But I’ve always thought becks1 gets that as do the majority of posters here. It’s why we like coming here. Obv Andrew should be locked up and Harry is nothing like him. Ugh he’s gross beyond belief.
I’m sure Harry saw the writing on the wall. But that just proves, to me anyway, that the “Harry is so stupid” stories were always a lie. If he was that stupid then a prescriptive life of “Go here, do this!” would have been right up his alley. No need to figure out what to do, just do as you’re told. No wonder his family wanted him to be a depressed drunk, they felt that would be much easier to manage. But I think this story is trying b to drive a wedge between Harry and his cousins, since they are supposedly supportive of him.
He is on the record about wanting to leave the RF from a teenager, spent 10 years in the Army, must have been trying not to be overlooked, instead of wanting to be anywhere, that is not England.
@ Jan. And Andrew never said anything about wanting to leave the RF. I think he loved how much attention and good press he got from his royal status. He was quite handsome when he was younger and seemed much cooler than traditionally stodgy Charles. And when that faded (can’t be the pretty boy forever), I think he couldn’t handle it. Harry never seemed as hooked on the royal perks and saw the situation as a mixed bag.
I feel like Harry has always wanted a different life for himself because of the way the royal siblings live. Not just Andrew, but Anne and Edward, as well. I don’t think he wanted that kind of life for himself and being with Meghan, he saw a way out.
Harry has the good sense to know that white hot fame is fleeting, so he’s laid the groundwork for a solid future as a philanthropist. That shows more intelligence than the endless trying to make Kate/Sophie/Louise/insert-white-female-royal here happen.
Exactly. While the other royals are frantically trying to stay relevant (while doing as little as possible) by self-aggrandizing themselves via the Woottons, Junors, Andrews, Nicholls, et al, Harry and Meghan always seem to have their noses to the grindstone and will continue to do so after the incessant media coverage fades.
I don’t think anyone over there, or many people period, believe that Harry has truly left the royal family. I think the RF is operating under the illusion that he will be coming back at some point. Even Tom and Lorenzo, the fashion bloggers, suggested in their latest podcast that Harry and Meghan would inevitably go back to the UK when Charles takes the throne. I was annoyed that they don’t seem to understand that Harry has just as much right to tell his own story as anyone else. No guys, it’s not tacky of Harry to write a memoir and yes, royals do write memoirs! Sigh.
They think that Harry, who has said he is close to the Queen and has issues with his father, is more likely to go back when that father is king? Talk about reaching.
I think it’s just that people who don’t follow royals closely assume being royal is the grandest thing a person can be, because they do such a great job of showing a polished veneer. But that veneer is pretty thin, and when you look closely, being a royal is about as horrific a life as a life of privilege can be. The wealth comes with a cost that quite frankly, isn’t worth bearing. To have someone willingly walk away from such a life seems unfathomable— royalty is the epitome of white privilege after all. Harry is seen as betraying his position, and as he thrives, he devalues their mystique.
I can think of a lot of worse things in life than fading into oblivion in a giant mansion in a sunny climate with your smokin’ hot wife, watching your adorable kids grow into normal, well-adjusted adults.
Let’s be honest living in someone’s shadow is no fun. And for palace life , it would mean harry would have to give up any ambition or aspirations he has to make room for the heirs to the throne because he cannot be more popular. Thus he would have to make himself small and later wait on handouts to pay his bills. That is no way to live. Thus, if he was worried, he had a right to be. Look at Prince Andrew, he is dependent on the stipend he gets.
The palace expects the Harry to eventually make room for the family of the heir when the time comes. How demoralizing is that. You have no meaningful future by virtue of the order of your birth. And the CHarlie Boy and Elegant Bill would have marginalized him to neutralize his likeability.
This is the best thing that ever happened to him. There is pride in an honest day of work. He is pursuing his dreams on his own terms. And i promise you, Harry is just the one that started it but he will not be the only one to walk away. Palace life is very seems to be very stifling. And if you are a woman that marries into the family goodluck to you. Although I think women are going to be less tolerant of hte bs in the future.
The only way a woman should marry into that family is if she is already an aristo or perhaps a foreign princess. No middle class woman should be considered by George or Louis. That is, if the RF still exists in its current form. For those kids sake, I hope it doesn’t. Or it’s at least deemphasized and devalued.
@ Lanne : But Kate is considered to be middle class (I.e. not from an aristocrat). The last aristo to marry into the BRF was Diana.
I don’t think her sons will be able to marry even a girl like Kate. I think it will be aristos from this point forward
I don’t think there are any European royal girls around George or Louis’ age except for maybe Madeleine of Sweden’s girls. And they are growing up part of the time in America and I can’t see them giving up their freedom to be chained to George or Louis. I don’t know of too many aristo girls who would really want to be with George or Louis; the aristo girls really didn’t want to be with William or Harry.
For the preservation of the British Royal Family, George & Louis’ wives need to be commoners who are UK citizens and who either have no independent income or whose parents will be happy to sell them to to the Royal family. Basically people like their mother’s family.
Yeah, I think Andrew’s “complex” is a little different to Harry’s. Andrew is very entitled and ridiculous. He thinks he’s just as important today as he was when he was 2nd in line. He has no real desire to work or make an impact. He just wants people to bow down to him and give him all the perks he thinks he deserves. Like in his interview, he genuinely thought people would just believe him because of who he is. It never crossed his mind that people might not believe him.
Harry’s is closer to Anne’s issue with the monarchy. Essentially, no matter how hard you work, you place in line is your place in line and after a certain point you start to be ignored. I think Harry is more focused on making an impact than her though. Her real issue was working hard and getting very little appreciation from BP and the public.
Harry has literally said this on the record so no need for anonymous source, but the context is that he only has a limited time where he can bring media attention to charities and causes. It’s in the context of media attention on him being unavoidable until the next generation is older so he might as well use it for some good.
I do think there’s some truth here. Not the direct Andrew comparisons but he’s right that he’s got a limited window before people move onto the new younger/more glamorous royals. It’s why the Sussexes are making deals and content now because who knows what interest might be like in 3 years let’s say, let alone 5+.
Given that Harry has said this in the past, the “friend” doesn’t exist and the Sunday Times just used his own words to write a story. The “friend” that William told he couldn’t put around Harry anymore was actually a Sunday Times editor. What Harry said was true, overtime the attention that he had as a royal would go to William’s children and so his time to make an impact was short. That’s just how the life of a spare is and Harry was very much aware of this. He was also aware that at some point he would be told by the Palace to stop his work because he would be overshadowing the monarch and his heirs. However this was not the reason why he left which was what the Sunday Times was trying to imply with this piece. Now having left the royal family he has his whole lifetime to work on the issues that are important to him. I’m sure he will write about this situation in the book.
They make Harry wanting to use his position to make an impact as soon as possible seem like it’s a crime, oh wait I forgot, Aristos and royals don’t do work,they depend on their names and positions in society to see them through life.This just makes me love and admire Harry more. He actually gives a damm and isn’t afraid of hard work.He doesn’t expect things handed to him because of his titles and that is the main difference between him and Andrew and the rest of the Windsors. That and Harry doesn’t go after children for his sick pleasure.
And give me a break, Harry children will forever outshine the Cambridge’s because they are the only biracial children in that salty dusty outdated institution so the world will forever be interested in them , so ha Harry will forever win.
Harry was smart enough to establish Invi ctus, and co- found: Sentabale, two huge legacies, and still going sttong. Next year we will have Harry’s book, and The Invictus Games. He was never the dim one, it’s all royal propaganda. Those ftiends are exfriends, with bad behaviour, Harry has moved on.
And Endeavour Fund. He also, I think, came up with Heads Up.
Maybe friends should be downgraded to acquaintances ( a person one knows slightly, but who is not a close friend ).
You know who actually has a shelf life and risked slipping into irrelevance? Kate.
You’ve gotta love the way they work in the cost of his mansion into every article they write about him.
I, for one, would love to see the same treatment for the rest of the BRF.
“HM, the Queen, from behind the solid gold piano at her 100 million pound estate in Windsor, said blah blah…”
Or, “HRH, the Duke of Cambridge, touched down at his 60 million pound estate in Norfolk today, having taken the Royal Helicopter (at a cost to the taxpayer of 17 thousand pounds) from KP, his London residence, valued at approximately 40 million pounds, etc and so on…”
I live for the day that all the values of the BRF’s castles, palaces, estates, duchys, artifacts and methods of transportation are constantly and mercilessly plastered all throughout every article written about any and all of them.
Please karma, make it happen!!
Harry likely viewed Andrew’s life and simply said, I do not want to be like him.
Sure, Harry knows he will become less important as time goes on, but that is why he is making his mark now. When he’s Andrew’s age, he will be accomplished and won’t need to worry about his place in the monarchy because he’ll have his place elsewhere that is not reliant on his petty father and brother. It has nothing to do with his nephews and niece.
And he’ll have financial freedom. Just look at the Wessexes and see how degrading it is to be dependent on handouts from your mother or your brother.
The Wessex situation IS degrading and embarrassing. People should take one look at Sofiesta and Edward begging for titles and kissing the Keens ass and know why Harry wanted to get the f*ck out of dodge. To be in your fifties and have to rely on handouts from Tampon Charles and Big Willy is pitiful. The monarchy relies on the enmeshment and codependency to keep the lesser royals in line. Harry did the right thing for himself, Meg, and especially their children, by getting out and building his own life. Imagine how Archie and Lili Diana would be treated had they stayed.
I believe there are some aspects of this story that are quite true, i dont think he was under any illusions of his life as a royal, and i think he prepared accordingly, i think the problem is the family couldn’t think outside the box of what is normally done. according to reports they had had several conversations where things werent going anywhere, where he wanted to get out, the half in half out scenario would have enabled them to carry on duties until such a time where they were no longer needed, and once again the RF were very shortsighted. i would say this is probably the best possible out come they are off in sunny california setting up their future,
I mean, I think Harry was smart enough to look at Margaret and his uncles and realize that he didn’t want to live his life utterly dependent on his father or brother’s favor. It warps relationships and personalities.
Bottom line: Andrew is a pedophile rapist who supported Epstein traffic of children. Andrew deserves nothing more than to go to jail.
Harry- not that.
So this comparison is insulting and useless.
Thank! You!
Your comment is the only thing that needs to be said in response to this particular piece of gossip.
Off topic but why does a house need 16 bathrooms? Genuine question. Is it something to do with the way houses in the US are built?
Maybe the guy who had it built had a prostate problem. Or he had a lot of guests and wanted people to have individual bathrooms.
Well, there are nine bedrooms, so maybe they each have a bathroom. There’s a gymnasium and a sauna/steam room, there’s a theater, probably an area for staff, a bathroom or two for the general living areas – plus a swimming pool area, and a guest house with a couple of bedrooms. It’s not at all like regular houses in the US.
My US house has two bathrooms, so no, lol.
but their house is huge so my guess is there is a bathroom for every bedroom, so 9, plus a few off the genera living areas (maybe two on the main floor, two in the basement) so that puts us at 13. Factor in any staff rooms, and I’m not sure if that number includes any bathrooms in the guest house, swimming pool area, meditation house, etc.
When you are looking at those size houses, the bathrooms add up quickly. My house is from the 60s so two bathrooms was a big deal at the time lol, but in the development next to ours, from the late 90s, four bathrooms is the norm in those houses (basement, main floor, two upstairs for the bedrooms.) And those houses are about 2k square feet, maybe 2500. so if you consider H&M’s house is probably 10 times that, then 16 bathrooms doesn’t seem that many.
There was actually a headline that popped up on Bing today: “Prince Harry Told He Could Learn from Kate’s Work” from the Daily Express.
@equality
I had to Google that. They were actually serious!
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Well obviously BetterUp should have hired Kate to be Chief Impact Officer! The girl is an expert at making nothing out of something.
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 I needed a good laugh this morning. How crazy can these people be writing such nonsense. Amazing.
What work?
I’d like to know what work is that also.
Harry forgot the all important pie charts!!!!!!
Max Pemberton must appreciate Kate’s “work” ethic since he’s shown it’s similar to his own.
February 19, 2016 he wrote an article for the Fail about his opinion on Kate saying something about encouraging George & Charlotte to talk about their feelings. May 16, 2021, after the TMYCS came out, he wrote an article about Harry for the Fail. The 2 articles are almost identical with a few added things and Harry’s name instead of Kate’s. So now he’s changing his tune to support Kate & denigrate Harry. Very curious machinations happening. Laughing that he actually wrote Harry was probably turning people off from seeking therapy while BetterUp is expanding.
I like the typo – “limited self-life.” But Andrew’s “complex” includes demanding rewards for doing nothing – like wanting a promotion to full admiral so he can wear a fancy uniform and more medals to his father’s funeral.
This family needs the spares to be useless, it’s the only way the heirs will shine because there’s nothing remarkable about any of them. They needed everyone but the heirs to be broken wrecks, or unappealing which when compared to the heir who is protected at all cost from seeming like broken wrecks, appear better. Harry’s shine before Meghan was tolerated because they probably had plans to diminish him in time and there’s the fact that he would be dependent on those who need him to be diminished. Meghan coming along and adding to his “there’s something about Harry” lure sent both the institution and the family over the edge and in their reflex overreaction to her/them, they pushed Harry out the door. Now he’s no longer in the position they need their heirs to be – controlled. That’s why they’ve been acting so unhinged since it was announced Harry and Meghan were stepping down as working royals and leaving the UK. Everything that institution and that family feared would happen if a spare successfully escaped is happening and it’s wonderful to see.
LOL Its beautiful to see!
Prince Andrew was never “required” to be Prince Charles’ wing man. It seemed to have been expected of Harry by Cambridge stans.
PH has always said that. After the army he made a commitment to his grandmother to be a working royal and he figured he had about 10 years to make an impact on important issues. After that he believed his influence would wane when the spotlight shifted to his brother’s kids. He was practical and also very focused as a result. They are reporting on Harry’s work ethic and record of achievement. I don’t think their story means what they think it means. Go Harry.
99% of those in the public eye have a shelf life of public interest. Prince Harry will never be part of that 99%. He one of Diana’s sons and the monarchy has created such a huge, multiyear media campaign against him and his wife, so interest may lag at some point but no chance of becoming irrelevant.
However if they want to make a comparison to a spare I think Margaret would be better. She could have been the been Harry’s original inspiration to get out from an early age as he saw his aunts unhappiness as she moved further down the line.
Harry will be making headlines till the day he dies.Harry works and make things happen for his charities .Harry is not an idle man neither is Meghan. William will have a title as the heir/future future king, but he is too lazy and his wife is more lazy ,they not motivating each other to be better. i think H/M children will also be more popular than William children, if and when they follow into their parents charities causes.William/Catherine will always be left behind in M/H dust.I doubt children being born today , they will be about 25 or 30 yrs when and if William becomes king, i can’t see them looking up to William and Catherine. rich people dressing up to greet the poor people.
lol Going by this logic, Kate and Camilla should have both overshadowed interest in the late Princess Di a long time ago. But lo and behold, Diana is still more popular than both combined, even though she has been dead for over two decades. I don’t see George and his siblings overshadowing Harry and Meghan anytime soon. Even William and Kate haven’t overshadowed him lol