Booster shots for immunocompromised people have been available since mid August. This is for people who’ve had either the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines, with a booster shot to be given of the same vaccine. There’s no official word yet for the Johnson and Johnson folks. We’ve heard that the CDC and FDA are due to sign off on booster shots for everyone, starting September 20th and given eight months or earlier after the second shot, depending on the official decision. It was assumed that the boosters would be for both Pfizer and Moderna recipients, but it looks like that might not happen. In an appearance on Face The Nation, Dr. Anthony Fauci said that the Pfizer vaccine is on track for booster approval September 20th, but that Moderna may not meet that deadline. The regulatory agencies don’t have enough data to support mixing shots from different brands, but that may change soon. Some data suggests Modern may generate a better antibody response, although whether that matters and how that translates to real world protection remains to be seen. Here’s some of what Fauci said in that interview, thanks to People.
On Sunday, [Dr. Anthony Fauci], 80, said there is a chance that recipients of the Moderna vaccine will have to wait longer than originally expected to get their third shot.
“Looks like Pfizer has their data in, likely would meet the deadline. We hope that Moderna would also be able to do it so we could do it simultaneously, but if not, we’ll do it sequentially,” Fauci told guest host Weijia Jiang on Face the Nation. “So the bottom line is very likely, at least part of the plan will be implemented, but ultimately the entire plan will be.”
However, there is no guarantee the Pfizer vaccine will be ready to roll out on Sept. 20. As Fauci noted in the interview, the boosters must receive the “appropriate FDA regulatory approval” and a recommendation from the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices.
Fauci also said researchers are currently assessing whether the vaccines can successfully be mixed. For now, he advises against it.
“Hopefully within a reasonable period of time, measured in a couple of weeks, we will have that data. But right now, we are suggesting and hopefully it will work out that way, that if you got Pfizer, you will then boost with Pfizer. If you get Moderna, you’ll be boosting with Moderna,” he said.
Fauci said it would be “at the most a couple of weeks, a few weeks delay” for Moderna boosters to get approval. I got the Pfizer vaccine so this doesn’t affect me as much, but it’s frustrating that the Moderna recipients probably won’t be able to get booster shots on the same timeline as the Pfizer-vaccinated people. Hopefully they’ll fix this in time for everyone to get boosters as needed. In that interview Fauci also said that the Delta variant might be more severe in adults, they’re still looking at the data, but that they’re not sure whether it’s more severe in children. It may just seem like it is because it’s more easy to transmit. The more people who get infected, the more who get seriously ill. He also said that even with the new Mu variant, a “variant of interest,” that the boosters are highly effective. “If you get the level of antibody high enough, which boosters actually do, then you can feel pretty confident that you’re going to be protected against virtually any variant.” People who have been vaccinated and who have not yet received boosters are still overwhelmingly protected against hospitalization and death. This is critically important now that ICUs are full of unvaccinated people and those with other medical conditions and emergencies are being turned away.
Here’s that interview:
Meanwhile in Canada still says mixing vaccines is ok and it’s perfectly fine and we also aren’t rushing into booster shots yet ugh!
From all that I’ve read and heard (a LOT! lol), Pfizer and Moderna have the same building blocks: MRNA. That’s why they’re saying you can interchange the two if you need to. You just can’t mix the J&J as it’s like a “regular” vaccine.
You may want to dig further on this… J and j is still designated as a one dose so you wouldn’t mix that with anything. The study was on mixing AZ (similar construction to J and J) with Pfizer (mRNA). I believe it was published in the journal Nature. They found mixing the two types of vaccines could result in a small improvement in immunity.
I had AZ for my first dose and due to a severe allergic reaction I got Pfizer on the second dose.
Peer-reviewed studies said that I’m even more protected…. having said that, for obvious reasons my booster will need to be Pfizer or Moderna.
I just want to cry when I think of how we, as a nation, *could* be seeing the back-end of this virus, looking at a mask-less late fall/winter season, if those ^&^%$! MAGAt, GQP nuts didn’t hijack this for political/monetary profit and power grabs.
I truly don’t understand what the reasoning behind what they’re doing, other than profit/power. They are killing off their base by the 100s of thousands; do they think that just gerrymandering and voter suppression will give them the easy win(s)??
I feel so very lucky to have gotten my Moderna booster last week. Was expecting to be laid out like after the 2nd shot; only thing that happened to me was a very sore, swollen, hot itchy injection site (something that happens to me with all vaccines), a *little* tiredness, and after 3 days, it’s almost all gone. If I need *another* booster in another 6 mos., well, I’ll be first in line, waving my hand, to take it, just like my yearly Flu shot, and my Pneumonia shot (every 5 yrs).
Science/Medicine is here to HELP make our lives better.
If it is a couple of weeks for Moderna, I’ll just have to wait. It happens.
That way I can also get my flu shot at the same time.
Just FYI- usual recommendation is two weeks between vaccines.( don’t ask me why they give children tons all the same time). would even say with the MRNA needing to make the protein then the antibodies, you might want to wait a month between flu and covid if you get covid vaccine first. maybe ask if they have flu vaccine today and go get it now then you’ll be all set for your booster! I have a doctor appointment today and if they have the flu vaccine I’m getting that. but if they don’t I’m going by the pharmacy and getting the Tdap cuz I’m 10 years since my last Tdap. and I figured an extra pertussis couldn’t hurt even though its not related to covid. 🙂 then I’ll be all ready for my booster in October or December if its 6 or 8 months
You right Ashley.
Considering how I felt after my second vaccine shot, I will need to give me body a break.
Please check your numbers before posting! Minimum is longer than 2 weeks and recommended between doses one and two is much longer and even longer between two and three/booster. I am not an expert so not posting specific timelines BUT please let’s stop being armchair virologists and posting misinformation here.
Ashley please ignore my comment above I didn’t read your comment properly that you were talking about time between flu vaccine and covid vaxx. Not going to post numbers here as I’m not a doctor but what you have said about two weeks in between should be checked as there is different guidance out there.
I currently live in TN, which is nearly as bad as SC for transmission right now and have heard that being vaccinated here still leaves us at as much risk as unvaccinated people in NY. Everyone needs to get vaccinated, get their boosters and do their part.
My 78 year old mom got her Pfizer booster last week. If you have people you are worried about, have them check with their local health department to see if they will do it. Ours did.
I wish that they wouldn’t release some of this study data quite so early. It gives the appearance that the science is actually changing, when in fact it’s a just progressing through a normal repeat/check findings process. It’s creating some unnecessary public confusion and frustration, which at this point is leading to more folks refusing to be vaccinated.
just to explain why a Pfizer Booster may be approved prior to the full approval for Moderna’s vaccine. Both companies have been submitting data on a rolling basis so the FDA’s been getting the data from the booster trials in parallel with the final BLA submission in May (for initial approval of the 2-shot regimen) and has already approved the Pfizer vaccine. This was a priority review so most people expected a decision from the FDA on Pfizer’s vaccine weeks before it actually came out.
Moderna just completed it’s final BLA submission to the FDA on August 25th. This was also submitted for priority review. Whether the FDA will take as long to complete their review for Moderna as it did for Pfizer remains to be seen (but considering the FDA accepted Moderna’s plan to unblind immediately after EUA while engaging in the whole debate about whether Pfizer should continue participants in blinded fashion until each risk group was ready for dosing at vaccine clinics, I suspect the FDA may take less time to approve Moderna’s application)
I am in Canada, and just had my Pfizer booster. First shot AZ, second shot Pfizer. I am 64, and was allowed to get it as we have business travel plans to Europe, and UK won’t recognize AZ.
Very mild side effects from any of the shots. Will continue to use precautions, mask, distancing.
Uk won’t recognise AZ???
In Britain everyone over 40 had AZ for a vaccine, only some of the elderly and those under 40 could get Pfizer and Moderna.
In Canada we recieved the serum institute (India) version of the Oxford vaccine. Not the same according to NHS.