Over the Labor Day weekend, Page Six published photos of John Mulaney’s girlfriend where she seemed visibly pregnant in a baggy sweatshirt. Page Six didn’t even say the word “pregnant” but the photos went viral anyway, because Millennials have a thing about John Mulaney. He’s their North Star or something. Well, he was before he dumped his wife two seconds after he got out of rehab and took up with a Japanese Potato Eater and got her pregnant in short order. In any case, John Mulaney has confirmed his girlfriend’s pregnancy during an appearance on Late Night with Seth Meyers.
Olivia Munn is pregnant! The Love Wedding Repeat actress is expecting her first baby with John Mulaney, the comedian revealed Tuesday during an appearance on Late Night with Seth Meyers.
“You’ve had a year,” Meyers, 47, told Mulaney at the top of the evening, to which the comedian replied, “I packed a lot into this… Is it September now? I went to rehab in September, I got out in October, I moved out of my home from my ex-wife [Anna Marie Tendler]…”
“Then in the spring I went to Los Angeles and met and started to date a wonderful woman named Olivia,” he continued. “I got into this relationship that’s been really beautiful with someone incredible,” he said, adding how grateful he is that Munn has held his hand throughout his challenging year. “And we’re having a baby together. I was nervous when I was about to say the news!”
While thanking Meyers for having him on the show, Mulaney said, “Olivia and this baby have helped save me from myself in this early journey out of recovery.”
If you watch the video, Mulaney’s timeline is a lot more involved that what People transcribes. We only found out about Mulaney’s rehab stay last December, and it was widely assumed that he had entered that month and underwent some kind of 90-day treatment. Now he’s saying that he was out of rehab by October of last year, then he relapsed and went back into treatment, then he moved to LA to get away from Anna Marie Tendler and he started up this new relationship when he was separated from his wife? If that’s his timeline, who am I to dispute it. I kind of think he’s just trying to put a bow on a very messy situation though.
Olivia Munn steps out in baggy sweats sans boyfriend John Mulaney https://t.co/osHypgInux pic.twitter.com/a6vwzoy3qz
— Page Six (@PageSix) September 3, 2021
Photos courtesy of Avalon Red.
His poor wife.
I don’t really have a dog in this fight — I am an (older) Millennial and like Mulaney, never really thought much about his personal life until recently — but agree with this sentiment whole-heartedly. At best, it’s messy and confusing. At worst, ooof, well, it’s really bad.
Absolutely – must be horrible for her. Hadn’t heard of him before this story but he seems like such a walking cliche for all this.
Also, I swear Olivia posted about wishing him the best for recovery in December? How does that line up with his timeline!?
She also gave an interview about meeting him at a wedding in 2015 and being obsessed with spending time with him, so how did he meet her in L.A in Spring this year? In fact the wedding they met at was Seth Meyers.
It doesn’t. They are trying to change the narrative of their messy situation from the first pap shot of them together. “They met in church.” Yeah right! Years ago at a mutual friend’s wedding where she tried to stalk him even though he was engaged at the time. Don’t rehabs advise you to stay away from relationships for at least a year so you can work on your sobriety? Didn’t he always claimed to not want to have children? I hope his ex gets a good juicy divorce settlement and realizes she dodged a bullet with this mess of a man.
Seconded.
@ Natters : Yes, many rehab programs advise you to not get into a relationship for a year because you need that year to focus on yourself and your recovery. Just because someone is off the drugs or booze doesn’t mean years of addictive behavior and thinking have disappeared. You need time to reprogram all of that.
@ Still_Sarah, AA recommends a year and I would imagine rehab would recommend longer. You truly haven’t recovered if you are jumping into a relationship/baby/parenting in such a short period of time. Munn better get ready to be a single mom!!
Sounds like Mulaney and his ex-wife had a toxic last year of marriage from what I’ve read – Long before he and his ex-wife went to rehab. I’m sure they are both better off not being married. I don’t get why people here don’t like Olivia Munn but I like her and Mulaney as a couple. Hope they last but not putting any money on it.
Her memoir was really degrading to other women, she was super cruel to fat people, she attached The FUG Girls for a (fairly mild) critique of her outfit in the name of “feminism.” She’s generally not someone I’d want to spend time with.
She has a history of going after married men and leaking about it–Justin Timberlake, among others. Also while I don’t remember this happening, she went after the website the Fug Girls and mischaracterized an article they wrote about a dress she wore that they didn’t like or something.
And for me personally, she isn’t really that talented or that great of an actor. And she isn’t that funny, I’ve seen her in interviews and she just comes across as obnoxious and annoying.
I’m genuinely curious. What did you read? All I read is that they both sought treatment, him for substance abuse and her for an eating disorder. Clearly he wanted out, but she did not. Her posts about it indicate that it was not her choice and she was heartbroken.
I feel badly for her because of how he handled the aftermath. He empathically said he did not want children and now he’s gushing about having a baby with his new GF so soon after their official split. That has to sting his ex no matter what their circumstances were.
@ Ann
A lot of Mulaney fans accused Tendler of abusive and toxic behavior towards him without any evidence when the divorce was announced, even here on this site.
Carol
Anna went to “rehab “ for treatment on depression and an eating disorder. It was said to have been brought on by the stress of JM addiction and all of that behavior. Addiction hurts everyone around it. And the addict will run from that because they would have to admit fault and hold themselves accountable.
JM is the reason the last year was toxic. Addiction to hard drugs is the reason.
And OM chased a man from engagement to marriage to divorce with emails and text messages and social media and sealed it with a poorly timed pregnancy to a man that never wanted children and is battling a life threatening illness.
Anna Marie went to rehab for emotional and eating disorders, I believe shortly after John went to rehab for the second time. Now that all this mess has come to light, I wonder if she was triggered because John was gaslighting the hell out of her.
I don’t know if Seth Meyers still has a minimal audience due to COVID restrictions, but the lukewarm applause when John came out was noticeable, also when he announced the baby news. Interesting.
It’s weird that Meyers still has only a production crew audience. No one seems to have explained that either.
I have seen parents who have children under the age of 12 playing it unusually safe, given that there is no vaccine for the under 12. If it were my show and Delta was raging I would skip having an audience too. Seth’s boys are really young.
What a mess… Justo hope everything goes well for the baby’s sake. I imagine it was an oops baby because choosing to have one in that situation wow
Yes! A baby cannot SAVE you from addiction. Unbelievable. That poor child.
No one can save you, you have to save you. That kid is gonna need therapy as soon as it can talk.
Having a kid with the jump off girlfriend you got and knocked up immediately after your divorce while you’re still in recovery seems like a super healthy and well thought out choice.
Best of luck to that kid.
The poor kid is already “saving” him too. I sincerely hope John gets a good “Look at your life, look at your choices…” therapist.
This is a hot mess, no matter how the timeline is massaged.
Nah, he knocked her up before the divorce. He says they started dating when he was separated but I don’t buy that at all. They were probably corresponding while he was in rehab and maybe even before.
Sources and even OM co formed OM was trying to get JMs attention for years while he was married. Nonstop attempts.
Yup, agreed. Rebound oops baby out of rehab….give it 2 years at the max, unfortunately.
Also Seth Meyers helped stage Mulaney’s intervention, how could he not know all of this is moving along way too quickly? It’s absolutely insane, sending good vibes to Mulaney’s poor sponsor.
Yes, I like Seth a lot, but I question him giving Mulaney a platform to “explain” his behavior when it’s clearly problematic.
Yeah, they advise against getting into relationships when you’re early in recovery…and considering he went to rehab and relapsed, it seems his sobriety is very young and fragile. Starting not only a relationship but having a baby is risky…and then he says it saved him. Sigh. That’s a lot of responsibility to put on a little baby.
Parenthood might “save” you long term, but babies TEST you not save you. I sincerely hope he’s ready.
Especially since he said for ages, very publicly and empathically, that he did NOT want children. Yikes.
I get that it seems to be a fairly murky & messy situation but why not say he & *Olivia Munn* are having a baby instead of reducing her to “his latest girlfriend”? A lot of us know who she is and she’s been the topic of posts on here in the past. She’s not A-list but she’s not completely unknown either. 🤷🏻♀️
Because John Mulaney’s girlfriend is a giant a–hole.
https://www.celebitchy.com/618690/olivia_munn_attacks_mischaracterizes_the_lovely_joyful_go_fug_yourself_blog/
Ok, that explains it. I have no idea who he is, i just read the post expecting drama so reading the girlfriend in question is Olivia Munn was surprising because I believe she’s more known than him yet was not mentioned in the title
So she’s, like, the Voldemort of the gossip world. Fair enough. I shall never utter her name again on this site.
I burst out laughing at the title.
The title made me burst out laughing….at the neurologist’s office lol. Still hahahahaha
she’s also SUPER try-hard and has been chasing fame through other famous people because she’s just not that good of an actress. and yes, the whole “japanese potato” business.
I’ve disliked her since I saw her on that gaming show all those years ago. her who shtick was being a “hot” nerd/gamer girl. I feel like her whole bit on the show was “see how hot I am? and I’m such a nerd! I’m a hot nerd girl. Did I mention how hot I am and that I’m a nerd?…”
Whatwhat
It was said OM was the top mean girl while at spike. Whatever it took. Whatever you’d think a person like that would do in a highly misogynistic environment to get ahead. So said my old Viacom intern source.
This info came before her career really happened. She was just very known and disliked.
💯 Perfect. Also Japanese potato eater.
It’s done on purpose. The reasoning was explained in the comments under the last post about them.
I 100% agree with you….lets not reduce her to a girlfriend role, she is well enough known in her own right. In fact, outside of America, Olivia would be a lot more known.
This has already been explained.
To all commenters who say “let’s not reduce her to a gf role”… Potato Eater, is that you? LOL
She seems to actively seek out “girlfriend role” more than almost anything else.
Anyone who does this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvtHcBCutpA&t=35s
doesn’t need to be mentioned by name. This is absolutely vile and I don’t know why she isn’t called out for it as It is beyond fat shaming for both of these idiots. It is abuse and cruelty. Yet she loses her shit when her outfit is objectively critiqued (Fug Girls).
@Wildflower, that link — holy sh!t. I’d never seen it before, and have always disliked Olivia anyway, but that was some next-level cruelty. Wtf is wrong with her?
I never saw a movie with her (or maybe I did and she was simply forgettable?), so I only know her as”the girlfriend of “insert name of famous/semi famous person”. So I think the description fits just right, since that’s the narrative that she had been trying to push throughout her “career”. They both don’t seem to be nice people…poor child that still isn’t born and its existence is already being used for “saving daddy” and giving exposure to the mommy.
I have no idea who John Mulaney even is. I guess I am off to Googleland.
Because you don’t feed the Gremlins!
I’m still convinced that they have been involved way longer than spring and her pregnancy made him leave his wife. She looks pretty far along so she got pregnant on their first date? Nah, i don’t think so. He’s trying to save his good guy reputation.
I think so too, she looks pretty far along.
Saying a new relationship and a baby “saved him” right out of rehab is not good or healthy.
Poor baby. Not even born yet and already got a job.
Way too much pressure on the new gf and the baby. He’ll blame them if he relapses.
And it was a low dig against his ex wife. He really seems to hate her now. He’s a selfish dick.
Yup. And if Mulaney ever relapses, the poor kid is gonna blame themselves for not *saving* their dad good enough. Fingers crossed this situation is an exception and it all works out happily ever after. But generally speaking, no part of this situation is a good and healthy choice.
This. They announced their divorce in May and I would bet money that OM was already pregnant. She looked very far along in those pictures, maybe even 6 months. Plus they rolled it out so officially and so soon, if it was just dating I think they would have been more discreet about it.
And I’m sure they were dealing with each other for months before that. It’s absolutely clear by Anna’s statement that John left her and learning that he knocked up his side piece must have been awful for her.
She publicly wished him well in December when it was announced that he was in rehab. They were probably already messing around by then.
December last year his reps confirmed his split from his wife to Page Six and stated he’d asked her for a divorce back in October just before his first rehab stint. This was after his ex scrubbed him from her social media and changed back to her maiden name.
So unless you think Olivia is 12 months pregnant, that’s obviously not why they split.
No. In December it was just announced that he was in rehab. The split was announced in May and a few days later it was announced that he was with his new girlfriend. He appeared on Kimmel in December via Zoom still wearing his wedding band and talking about his wife. Why would he do that if he already asked for a divorce in October?!
Wow. Is the ink from his divorce even dry yet? Has he actually even divorced his wife or are they still legally separated? What a messy situation.
He’s filed and I hope she gets everything with alimony and sues her for alienation of affection. Especially with how OM times her pap releases with Anna’s announcements of her art and showings.
He looks and sounds really thrilled in this video. NOT. Like a guy who has claimed repeatedly that he does not want kids.
They both deserve each other, she was obsessed with him and persuaded him when he was vulnerable and he most likely cheated on his wife. Even if he didn’t cheat he should have known better than to give in to her advances right out of rehab.
This has left a very bad taste in my mouth. What can I say: Mazeltov! and to her: Be careful what to obsess and stalk and “wish” for.
Yucky mess!
Ugh, I used to love him but Olivia Munn, dude, really??? ugh…..she is just the epitome of thirsty, messy, attention-seeking celebrity.
Yes!!! She really is and I was kind of wondering if thats why Kaiser is not really naming her in any of the headlines? Because technically Olivia is a celebrity that I think some people would be familiar with. So I’m like is calling her “the girlfriend” subtle shade or something? LOL if so!
Congratulations and well wishes to their baby.
As far as how these two sell themselves as a couple… John Legend & Chrissy Tiegen have written half the playbook for them already.
Did they start off messy like this too? Or is it just the attention seeking? Sorry…I’m more familiar with Current Messy Chrissy.
I think there was a similar element of ‘pursuit’ in the way Chrissy/John and Olivia/John got together but I’m referring to their contrasting public personas.
Part of Mulaney’s widespread appeal was that he endeared himself to women with his ‘wife’ guy schtick. Munn has shown herself to be an aggressive bully & someone who punches down, esp towards other women (see Kaiser’s link about the FUG girls above).
Legend & Tiegen have a similar dynamic where his wife’s a**holery is covered by the public’s benevolence towards him.
No red flags whatsoever.
Lol, exactly.
This will end well.
“ Olivia and this baby have helped save me from myself in this early journey out of recovery.”
His recovery is already derailed. It is NOT the job of a partner to “save” someone from their addiction. You can be supportive but you can’t make someone want to change or get help. And to put that kind of expectation on a BABY? What’s going to happen when this kid is older and just behaving like a kid? If dad relapses, is the kid going to be told “it’s our job to get daddy through this?” Because it isn’t.
What a hot mess.
You said it before I did Izzy. It is no one’s job to “save” Mulaney. That is HIS job.
Exactly. When he says the baby “saved” him…what if he relapses? The child will inevitably feel that they weren’t enough.
I think if you’re looking for someone to admire, maybe comedy isn’t the place to find them. Comedians are famously and frequently messed up.
I appreciate Mulaney’s comedy, but he’s not my hero. Neither is he my villain. I’ve known enough people who are addicts to feel that Anne-Marie Tendler has a great career and is better off with someone who is not struggling to stay sober. I also think his needs have resulted in a frying pan into the fire situation: no one who is struggling to stay sober needs a new girlfriend and baby.
It’s all sad, for everyone…even Olivia Munn, who should have been careful what she wished for.
I haven’t seen anyone here saying they admire him or claiming he’s their hero, only stating that they are/were fans of his. He used to be a very likable (imo) guy, so it’s disappointing to see him behaving so cruelly toward his not-yet-ex-wife.
I mostly just feel sorry for his ex and for the baby. However this ends, it won’t be good.
Staying sober is hard enough. Now he’s gonna try and do it in a new city, with a new gf, and have a baby? Good luck to them.
So I guess Anne-Marie kept Petunia
Petunia was her dog before they got married-so yes she kept the dog
Easily six or seven months pregnant in that pic… Also does anyone think there’s more than zero chance she got pregnant by accident? I know stranger things have happened but given her history and age it feels really sketchy and icky…
She definitely got pregnant on purpose.
he’s also been quoted as saying (Pete Holmes interview) that you can’t leave a pregnant woman…
@Sunny and @Natters, I know it’s generally frowned upon to claim that a woman purposely got pregnant to “trap” a man — and we never know what went on behind closed doors, but in this case it really does seem possible. Olivia doesn’t strike me as a person with a particularly high level of integrity, and the timing certainly fits.
As someone who celebrated 4 years clean yesterday I just feel like all of *this* is going to blow up in someone’s face, mainly Olivia’s. People change their mind about having kids but for me that was a 4 year process, not straight out of rehab and into divorce and a new relationship. I was 2 years clean when my divorce started and it was rough, throw in a new relationship, pregnancy/newborn?
I could be wrong but I do feel like this baby was planned, maybe earlier than expected, but was a way to keep John around and it’s just… I hope she can handle being mom to a baby and a grown ass man.
Congratulations on your 4 year anniversary!
Congrats on Four Years! That’s awesome
Congratulations on four years!
Happy belated birthday!
@Meghan
I’m super early in my recovery process so I just want to say Way to freaking go on 4 years! I’m super happy for you!!
Brava on 4 years! A great achievement.
Congratulations, that’s awesome!
As I maintain, if Anne-Marie truly did not want children, she’s going to be feeling like she dodged a bullet and she can move forward in her own life, which actually might be better without an addict man-baby comedian.
If she kinda sorta maybe did want kids? And John very strongly did not (resident man-babies often do not, they want all the attention), this must be really painful. And as I said before, I only hope that he had the decency to get this news to her privately. I’m stunned by the lack of decency/any residual warmth that he seems to hold for her.
I think she is still going to have some major feelings about it and that’s okay! My ex and I decided to divorce almost exactly 2 years ago and he was already in an entire relationship before we pulled the plug. A couple of weeks ago my son said that dad’s girlfriend is pregnant (same woman) and I cried and was upset about it. He and I would never get back together and I don’t want another child with him but it was still emotional and I was still sad about it. As it turns out my son was making up stories and she isn’t pregnant but still.
I do think that at some point Anne Marie will go “whew dodged a bullet” because I’ve definitely felt that way but this is going to be hard on her and I wish her the absolute best and she BETTER HAVE PETUNIA.
Yes, I agree, it’s awful. I don’t know her. I’m not saying she’s a saint, but she clearly did not want the marriage to end and he KNOWS that. She didn’t bad mouth him publicly or anything like that. She wished him well in his recovery. They were married and he owed her some respect in how he handled this but showed her little to none. It’s all so public and messy and I feel terrible for her.
And I’m sorry but as someone who has had a functioning uterus for decades, has had two planned kids and plenty of protected sex, I side-eye the notion that this pregnancy was not intentional. Birth control fails, sure, but used correctly and regularly it’s pretty darned effective. I went off it twice in my life and both times I got pregnant within two months. When I’ve used it, my luck has held.
@Ann you nailed it; your comment says it all. I feel incredibly sorry for Anna…she deserved better treatment even if he wanted to end the marriage.
I thought some of his comments to Seth almost came across as jabs at her? He might not have been aware of it (he’s so happy and blissed out in his “new” life 🙄), but the way he worded certain things— I just hope Anna doesn’t see it because it would be so hurtful to her, imo. It’s still so raw and he’s out there acting like he *finally* met a great woman without giving any thought about how this would sound to his ex.
This feels like he went on Seth’s show (who Mulaney’s friends with) to try and clean up his image. Even with the explanation, it all seems messy, like he’s fudging the timeline.
I feel sorry for Anne-Marie and the baby. Having a baby so immediately after a relapse is a recipe for disaster, especially since he famously didn’t want children.
I watched the whole segment and it made me very uncomfortable. I know they are comediants and they laught at the hard stuff but God, an intervention, a coke addiction, being worried for your friend’s life are serious issues. This was very badly handled. The audience was uncomfortable too.
I het that Seth is trying to help clean John’s image, but we are not dumb.
Yes, it seems like because John is a close friend, Seth gave him a lot of time to present his side of the story. I have always loved John, I think he’s hilarious and I have seen him perform in person several times. After watching the whole long clip above, it’s obvious that John has many good friends who cared about him enough to stage the intervention. They have to still be massively concerned about his entering this next stage of life when he is so unstable. All I can say is that this couple is going to need a lot of outside support to handle the care of a newborn– a family presence and day and night nurses as nothing messes with your physical and emotional health like the sleep disruption and constant needs of a baby. Can’t stage an intervention for what this next stage of life will bring them.
I watched it and it’s really cringe. He’s so raw and not comfortable in his skin. He seems lost. Not funny. Embarrassing. I wish them well. If this ends well it will be a amazing.
John is a writer on the show as well. Seth helped him out to keep him busy while outpatient out of rehab. Seth seems like a mensch but to anyone else he will look like a douche bro looking out for another one.
U nailed it! The dude bros looking out for each other.
I watched it and it felt really human and vulnerable but important too. It humanized him for me. I feel badly for him that he went down so hard. I don’t excuse his current actions but I also understand he’s not remotely in his right mind or remotely emotionally stable.
I’m worried for him in this new relationship with a soon to arrive new born. That’s brutal. Infants are all encompassing. I didn’t see the part about them saving him- but I hope his friends have eyes on him.
I feel badly that he’s an addict/ I hope he recovers. I feel so so badly for his sweet ex wife who doesn’t deserve an ounce of this. And for the innocent baby to arrive.
One day Anna Marie will thank all the goddesses that she did not waste one more minute on this loser.
yes, here’s hoping. he’s treated her w such insensitivity to the point of cruelty through all of this, not one decent or kind word or action at least in public. she deserves so much better.
Wow. How long has JM hated AM for? This is some cold sh*t.
@laughysaphy and @lillyfromlillyooet, it’s guilt. I think his coldness to his wife, acting like he hates her/she wasn’t good for him etc. comes from a place of knowing he screwed up and feeling mad at himself for it. So guilt and projection I guess.
I’ve seen this before: guy is not in a good place and wants to change. Instead of looking at his own self-destructive impulses/deep-seated issues, he changes his external reality. So new city, new partner, total 180 life choices (baby).
Sadly some therapists see no problem with this. Instead of challenging their clients to do the hard work, they encourage “change” with no caveats, no caution against “pink clouding” behavior.
Notice we’re all still calling Anna Marie his “wife” even though they’re divorced now. She’s going to hang over him, in how we see him and how he sees himself, even if she’s on Pluto living her best life. At least for a couple of years.
He’s mad that deep down all this feels wrong. He’s trapped by his own choices and is internally blaming his poor ex-wife. It could be possible that their marriage was bad and he needed a fresh start – but his actions and choices indicate that the problem was him, and he’s going to be taking that into his next relationship.
They’re not divorced. He announced they were divorcing but it’s not a done deal yet.
Interesting take. It would make sense.
“Then in the spring I went to Los Angeles and met and started to date a wonderful woman named Olivia”
But Olivia gave an interview about meeting him at a wedding and being obsessed with him in 2015? It’s almost like he is a liar, mhm.
He said the same thing in the full-length interview with Seth Meyers (that they met at his wedding).
She had a lot of plastic surgery and injections and claimed her completely new face was from eating “japanese sweet potatoes.”
Thanks @Betsy…I wondered what the “potato-eater” reference was about.
She reshaped her face via surgery pretty dramatically if you compare old and new pic. She must have had jaw surgery, which is crazy, but she went from a square shape to an oval, and it was bone structure, not just fat when you compare the edges of her jaw. Plus she had her eyes done and her lips. She credited her new look to eating “Japanese potatoes” and weight loss. It was and is a huge facial change and the media definitely gave her a pass with it. Her old face was so pretty though.
Also I saw a vogue interview with her several years ago and I really wanted to like her but she seemed…pretty salty. And she said horrific things about fat people in her memoir.
Oooof, I just found the quotes.
From her book:
““I will fix America’s obesity problems by taking all motorized transport away from fat people. In turn, I will build an infrastructure of Fat Tunnels, where all the fat people can walk. This will create jobs and subsequent weight loss.”
And this from an interview:
“‘Wow, you open up with the Holocaust?’” Munn recalled. “I said, ‘No, no, it’s cool. I dated a Jewish guy!’” (That would be actor Bryan Greenberg of HBO’s How to Make It in America.) “See I date different guys of different religions and races so I can always make the joke,” she continued. “I date the blacks, I date the Mexicans. I date ’em all for comedy. You can’t buy that kind of gold. Having sex with a guy once is worth it.””
Brutal on the wife AT FIRST GLANCE.
Alas, she’s the winner here! Bye! Good luck with that! He’s shown his true colors…
Children never “save” a thing; what a colossal projection. In fact, the pressures and responsibilities of one will challenge every shaky button John has.
His wife is now free and clear to go live a peaceful life if she chooses, including children with a non-high-risk partner. John will have little peace, especially if he says things like this. The word is “codependency.”
I feel compassion for all, but consequences are real: that child will have a lot of challenges.
Oof.
This is an excellent take. I wish them all well(especially AM) and while there are a ton of red flags for John and Olivia I hope they manage because they are bringing a baby into this world.
I thought Olivia was being paid to be his gf. (Just based on her other “relationships”) I’m floored.
His poor wife.
Phew very messy timing and that “saved” comment is a red flag to me. Good luck to the kid.
I think anyone that’s been paying attention knows that timeline is complete BS. I’m disappointed in Meyers to frankly for letting his spiraling friend come out and throw the ex under the bus like that. She was the one who had called him to set up the invention and he’s clearly chosen mulaney side. Also cheating, rehab (maybe twice?), new touring show, divorce, baby in less than a year is a recipe for disaster.
I’d bet he was gaslighting the ex all fall and through the holiday that nothing was going on and she was crazy and then dumped her as soon as he got out of rehab. They didn’t legally file for divorce until July so he’s still technically married.
That poor kid. Poor Anna. What a mess.
I’m guessing that too. In fact, I’ll take it a step further and say that maybe he wasn’t intending to even leave the wife until the mistress ended up pregnant. Which could be why AM worded her statement the way she did. Pure speculation on my part, of course.
Did anyone else catch that he mentioned she was in recovery too? What a mess.
I can’t believe these two are 41 and 39 years old. They’re not kids by any means, and yet the irresponsibility and pettiness is off the charts.
Jumping into divorce, a new relationship, and having a baby within a year of getting sober is an awful idea. Very sad, especially for Tendler.
Karma will come for them.
I wish the baby to have a healthy and happy life.
Will Olivia feed the baby Japanese potatoes when they are born with her pre-potato face?
She went her whole adult life without having a child and now she has one at her age.
I’m going to believe it was no accident — at least on her end it wasn’t.
I’ve never cared for Olivia and this just gets added to the long list of why.
I don’t really have a horse in this race because i’m not a particular fan of any of these people, but is there a reason we’re framing this around a dude instead of the woman who’s actually pregnant? why is this “john mulaney’s girlfriend is pregnant” and not “olivia munn, a person actually famous in her own right, is pregnant, and the father is john mulaney.” i mean, i get that he’s the one who did the reveal, but i don’t like that she’s reduced to “his girlfriend” and doesn’t even get named in the headline.
This has already been covered upthread and on previous posts.
This gets asked in every post about them and it gets answered in every post about them. Read the comments.
“Saved him,” huh? God, the inherent narcissism of that statement, as if that’s the responsibility of a new partner, much less a baby. 😂
I feel for his ex-wife, but trust me girl, you’re better off in the long run. When he inevitably relapses, and I’m sure he will, you’re not the one with a child to carry through it. Godspeed, unborn mid-life crisis baby. You’re going to have a time of it.
I read about his addiction issues. Had no idea his issues spanned that far back. Because of his life-long addiction problem, I can see why he (wisely at the time) didn’t want to have kids. I can see a correlation.
Based on personality, why is Olivia Munn attracted to him and why would she want him to be the father of her child? (I’m not talking about looks, which are completely fine, but he’s outright said he’s been an addict all his life. That would be enough for me to run away.)
I’m also fascinated by the fact that he generates obsessive fandom. He’s better looking than most comedians, but since he looks like a hedge fund manager on Wall Street, he’s not someone I’d immediately peg as generating this much interest (even with the drug problem). I really had no interest in this story, but his name kept popping up everywhere eventually I succumbed. Without prodding from the media, I’m not sure if I would have bothered having an opinion which I clearly have now.
He’s really funny. His stand up is great. He seemed like he had been through shit and now was making it work. Much like many older millennials. This will not go over well with them.
He’s highly thought of in comedy circles. This is a case where although the general public sees him as a C+/B- celebrity, actual celebrities and entertainment journalists, particularly people in comedy, and see him as an A+ comedian. That’s part of the reason he’s getting kid glove treatment by reporters.
If you watch his Netflix specials, he talks a lot about his former addiction issues before he became sober (this was before last year’s relapse and rehab obviously) but he also talks a lot about his childhood, his own family, and his now ex-wife and their dog Petunia. In his stand up, he talks a lot about how he respects his wife, how they don’t want to have kids, and basically presents a very wholesome image of a man besotted with his wife. That comedy has not aged well obviously.
I personally don’t think his standup is THAT funny, maybe it’s a different experience in person but I do find it very overblown. I didn’t laugh much when I watched his specials on TV but I get the appeal. He is good-looking in a 1950s newscaster kind of way, he is charming in interviews (which is where I find him funniest oddly and not on stage), and he seemed so in love with his wife and their dog. So for him to relapse, go to rehab, separate from his wife (who released her own statement that she was heartbroken over his decision), hook up with a (mediocre) actress who had publicly said she was obsessed with him and stalked him at Seth Meyers’s wedding, and get her pregnant all in less than a year really is so antithetical to the image he presented over the last few years. That’s why his fandom is being so obsessive, because all of this has been so out of left field for someone who cultivated this laidback, wholesome, nice guy persona.
Yup. You pretty much nailed it. A nearly perfect assessment.
I only know who he is from scrolling by him on my way to Hannah Gadsby.
Comics are known for coming to laughter through their pain. If the whole devoted husband routine had become a lie, well, he was going to blow it up somehow, that’s what unhealthy people do.
I feel for his ex-wife because this all had to deeply hurt, but she’s definitely better off figuring out what she wants and needs now without a gaslighting addict distorting things.
Same reason why singer Melissa Etheridge chose David Crosby -CSNY- (acknowledged druggie/alcholic) to father her kids. She discounted the addictions and thought she was getting the “musical genius” genes to combine with her own. The son died, age 21, from an OD of opiods. Anyone else remember that?
Never heard that, but yiiiiiiiiiiikes 🙁
Excuse me but what the hell is this take? So people with addiction should never ever have kids and anyone who dates a person with addiction issues and has a kid has to blame themselves if the kid later on has addiction issues, are you for real? And no one in the comments thinks that this is toxic and outright horrible but are here complain about Olivia being toxic? Jesus Christ.
The level of disrespect, coldness and cruelty he is treating his not yet ex wife with is staggering. He’s clearly lying about the timeline and his buddy Seth is trying to help him clean up his image. Nothing His girlfriend does is an oopsie. She’s extremely self serving and calculated. Getting pregnant with a married, just out of rehab guy is right up her alley. She already admitted being obsessed with him in the past. I can’t imagine the gaslighting that his wife has been subjected to. Oh and John, you callous a-hole, it’s nobody’s job to save you from yourself. Especially not a baby.This has disaster written all over it.
I also found it extremely disrespectful to his ex wife that he called his life up to this point “boring”.
Brad Pitt vibes (JA)
Agree.
I’m sorry but I have a really hard time believing that a 42 year old woman accidentally got pregnant by her boyfriend of like two months (who has been very vocal in the past about not wanting kids).I know I’m a bad feminist for saying this but I feel like this is a perfect example of a woman trapping a man with a baby. Don’t get me wrong, Mulaney should have used a condom, but with how obsessed with Mulaney she is, I fully believe she would be the type to say “don’t worry, I’m on the pill”. Obviously I don’t know Munn but based on what I’ve seen of their interactions before they started dating- her obsessing over him at a wedding they attended with his ex wife, plus her weird fan girl “hi john” when she didn’t know the camera was on her, I feel like she’s nutty enough to pull that “I got the birth control covered” lie.
Well, I wish them well.
This comment is gross. If a man doesn’t want to impregnate a woman he’s sleeping with he should wear a condom full stop. It doesn’t matter what pill she’s taking or “claims” to be taking. And even then, birth control can fail. In any case, people this rich can’t really be trapped. He doesn’t have to marry her, he doesn’t really have to see the kid if he doesn’t want to. Sure he’ll have to pay child support but that’s it.
And it doesn’t surprise me that a 42 year old woman who has never had a child might decide to carry a surprise pregnancy, regardless of how messy the situation/baby daddy is. This might be her last shot at motherhood, and if that’s something she wants, of course she will keep the baby. He is a mess, and this relationship will not last, but at least she got to have a baby, if that’s what she wanted. And she is also rich enough to manage childcare on her own if necessary.
They are still both terrible and Team AM.
I get your point but Mollie isn’t letting John off the hook. Like you both said, he should have worn a condom.
The thing is that while Olivia can take care of a kid financially, and John is under no obligation to marry her or anything, she didn’t just want him as a sperm donor. She’s basically been pursuing him for a while, so this isn’t all about having a baby. It’s about HIM, for her. And now she has him. Good luck to her, I guess.
If he was so adamant he never wanted children, he could have gotten a vasectomy.
Life is a series of choices, and JM has, well he has made some, I’ll give him that.
That interview was incredibly uncomfortable
It was a cringe fest that’s for sure. No laughing and why should anyone? It’s all uncomfortable & sad and Seth knew John had to come clean about the obvious baby bump & he seemed apologetic and nervous about the whole thing. I don’t know how his stand up is going to incorporate this new wrinkle: I know I said I was deeply in love with my wife and didn’t want kids but I was JUST KIDDNG. Yeesh. What a disappointment.
Is he the first person to ever end a marriage? Is he not allowed to change? I don’t know why people are so emotionally invested in a marriage between two people they don’t even know.
Rebound baby? I see this going well ….
I don’t understand why there is so much vitriol for Oliva Munn. Yeah, he moved on quickly, but people do it all the time. It may not be the best choice in terms of getting over one person and being fully ready to date another, but a lot of people can’t be alone. Maybe this situation touches a personal nerve for other women, but he’s free to be with whomever he wants. He’s not with his wife anymore.
I don’t know much about her personal life so I’ve never based much dislike on that.
But I would see her referred to as a “comedian” and I never understood why since I don’t find her remotely funny. Conventionally attractive, yes. An actress? That seems plausible. But funny? Not at all. So my overall dislike of her has always stemmed from that. I could never understand why she was referred to as a “comedian.” To be fair, maybe that description has been removed over time. But there was point I could have sworn she was referred to as that, and it baffled me.
The reason for the “vitriol” has been covered in every article/thread about these two, including this one. See above. Reading all the comments before posting your own is Important.
I’ve read the posts. This is some celebrity none of us knows. People move on. It happens. Most people can’t be on their own, but, in particular, most men can’t, even if they are only dating casually. They have to have a woman.
none of us KNOWS her, but we know her public behavior. she’s not a nice person and has been chasing fame through other famous people because her acting is lousy.
what’s she known for, by most people? being *insert famous person here*’s girlfriend. whether Aaron Rodgers or the next famous person.
if you’ve “read the posts”, you’ll see the info from THIS SITE’S AUTHOR explaining why the vitriol.
What are any of us known for? I’ll say this much — she’s made enough money that she doesn’t have to work. Sounds good to me. Beats an average life with an average job.
well, I can’t speak for you, but I’m known for being a nice person and helping my friends when they need it.
seriously, though, what are ANY of us known for? and, more importantly, what are any of us who are trying to be famous known for? that was my point. that she’s not known for any kind of talent or skill, just known for who she’s dating *right now*.
your point, which seems to be “who cares how nice she is, she makes money” doesn’t make any kind of logical sense. besides that, your original question was “why the vitriol”. it was explained. you then shifted your argument to “but she’s rich!” that’s not a sole reason to like someone.
like her for having money if you want to. the rest of us will think she’s trash for her personality.
When I wrote “known for,” I meant accomplishments and/or a name. You know her name. She has shoved her way out of the faceless crowd.
Yeah, I wouldn’t mind not having to work.
This reminds me of the stuff about Ioan Gruffudd and he wasn’t even dating anybody up to this point.He told he was leaving her in September (and she went on a rant then shut her self down ) yet 6 months later people on here were dissing him for dropping it on her out of no where according to her
I don’t like cheaters. I don’t like people who gun for married people. And I heavily side-eye a person who chases a married person in rehab – it seems predatory. Don’t have experience with any of those situations but they seem pretty obviously sh*tty to me.
If all that is totally ho-hum to you, why read and post about it on a gossip site? Does this situation touch a personal nerve? lol
This! I also don’t like Cool Girls, fatphobia, faux feminists, pick me types, or people who make fun of their mothers accented English. So yes, these are my “personal nerves” or you know, why people feel any type of way about anything really. In this particular instance, she’s a demonstrated long time asshole.
Has anyone watched the video??!!!
They spend most of the time speaking about his recent intervention (like less than a year ago) and now he’s starting a family with a woman he just met.
When he leaves his girlfriend lord…
I did, it’s pretty raw but I love the image of a serious Fred Armistin
This guy gives a horrible name to addicts. My god… Believe it or not, we’re not all like this. One of two things will happen, he’ll either relapse, or he and OM will eventually split, sooner rather than later most likely. Those are the only 2 options if he didn’t “save” himself.
I’ve never gotten a good vibe off this guy, ever. I tried watching his “comedy” and it wasn’t funny in the slightest. Him and Munn are completely perfect together. Good luck to the baby. Poor thing will need therapy to deal with the horribly messy parents he or she has.
Co-sign. However, I’ve seen a lot of addicts do this. They get into a gnarly deep relationship newly into recovery. I, too, don’t think it will end well.
His humor in his big shows was funny. His humor in off the cuff interviews or his Broadway show was …. Intentionally cruel. Just …. Mean spirited. I liked him a lot so I wanted to disagree when people first said that. But I watched his less mainstream stuff and it’s true. It’s high class razor sharp “wit” but damn it’s mean. I don’t like mean.
can you give some examples of interviews, not being snarky, honest q. I used to love him and a reason was he seemed so decent. but def seeing him in a new light, and guessing a lot of the old jokes, esp the ones about his wife, will land diff now.
@KissMyA**23 – Yes I agree! Addicts are not f**king horrible people. They have a disease, like cancer. Furthermore, their brain chemistry reacts to substances differently than normal people. Do they do horrible things because of their disease?? YES! But until you really understand the psychology of addiction, please reserve your judgement, seriously. It doesn’t happen in a vacuum, and there are serious underlying issues contributing to one.
Take my ex-husband for example, who was a serious cocaine and heroin addict. He came from two parents who were abusive, serious alcoholics that told him he would never amount to anything, and essentially ignored him. He was sexually abused by his older brother when he was young. He started using at about 14-15 because he figured negative attention was better than NO attention. When he went to his first rehab at age 17, he found the courage to tell his parents about this sexual abuse, and they refused to believe him.
You think that his addiction was for no reason? Wouldn’t you want to escape that trauma?????? He was not a bad person, in fact, he had a very loving heart. He was just treated like garbage for most of his life. In fact, he finally got sober in 2007, several years after we divorced. It is possible.
His story is hardly unique. So before you go judging an addict, consider where it comes from .
+1
Their dog had an instagram, really interesting/sad to look back at some of the pictures. https://www.instagram.com/laviepetunia/
Also Anne-Marie did a post for mothers day (in May) which. is super poignant now: “Happy Mother’s Day to all the women who have chosen unconventional paths of motherhood, and to those for whom the unconventional paths have chosen them.”
I wonder if she knew?
So very messy. I must admit that the peek into this intervention packed with famous comedians was truly interesting. I loathe OM (was mostly indifferent until she got catty and went after the Fug Girls) but I really like Mulaney as a comedian, and just don’t see any of this going well for him. His comedy is one of the few I can listen to on repeat and laugh every time. I dated a famous comedian in the past, who was sober by then but still incredibly damaged from it all. I don’t see John embracing dad life.
It may not have been an oops baby on both their parts.
This is a sobriety baby. You see it a lot in the rooms of AA. I’m gonna just say, while messy, this is pretty typical. The good news is they are both in recovery. They can take their issues back to their respective sponsors and if they really get on each other’s nerves they can go to Al-Anon.
I don’t mind that he’s putting a bow on a messy situation. If there was no overlap, great. It’s not Olivia and the baby(!)’s job to save him, hope he never leans on her too hard as he should really heal before having a baby. I guess it is different when you don’t need to work though
Whoa. So much shade thrown at Olivia.
The only nice thing about that interview is that it’s good that John got help and is sober for the time being. He is lucky to have such a good friend in Seth Meyers. But with all the chaos in his personal life I wouldn’t be surprised if he relapsed again before the end of the year, I hope that’s not the case obviously and I do wish him well in that regard.
I do wonder if this was a planned thing between Olivia and him–the pap photos in the parking garage and then him going on Seth’s show to discuss his chaotic year and confirm the pregnancy. Or did she go rogue and force him to confirm the pregnancy to quell rumors? In any case, it was a very revealing and deep interview covering his intervention especially. I didn’t expect them to go so in depth and it was a little TMI for me with how deep it got, considering it is still so recent. It really can’t be easy for his soon to be ex wife to hear how Olivia makes him happy and how she and the baby saved him. Not sure he’s excited to be a dad given he made it perfectly clear he didn’t want kids before, he seems more resigned about it. I doubt this was a planned event, it’s pretty clear it was an oopsie baby and Olivia, being in her early 40s, decided to keep it despite the messiness because at her age who knows when she might get the chance to be a mother. They will not last, it’s too much too soon. My guess is he’ll relapse and Olivia will realize hooking up with a (married) guy straight out of rehab was an idiotic choice, but hey she got what she wanted. Even if he doesn’t, they still won’t last, I predict a breakup not long after the baby arrives. She desperately wanted to hook up with John Mulaney as we all know and decided to have a kid with an addict who didn’t want kids. Be careful what you wish for. The only person I feel bad for is the baby getting saddled with two messy parents.
This. Weirdly, I have had some experience obsessing over, nearly stalking, and then getting to date a well-known person. More than once. It NEVER turns out how you think it will.
I have several child free friends whose boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/wives have immediately moved on to have kids with their next person. Unless folks have done that internal work and know that having and raising kids isn’t for them, ‘I don’t want to have kids’ usually means, ‘I don’t want to have kids with you’. This is not unusual for un self aware, immature men like Mullaney. The trappings of a traditional home life that they themselves don’t have to manage but can just show up to whenever they feel like are very enticing, until they feel safe and then bored and then it’s on to the next thing. My brother is an addict and also like this. Thank God he hasn’t brought innocent kids into his mess though.
But also, he’s been trash for a long time. His friendship with and vocal support of that well-connexted writer who stalked an anonymous goodreads poster and then swanned through the media bragging about it confirmed that.
If you ate a grown ass man who knows he never wants children then get a freaking vasectomy. Men need to learn to take some responsibility about sex and reproduction.
WILD APPLAUSE!
This.
I don’t really care what happens with this guy’s personal life (he can love whoever he wants), but some have asked why people don’t like Olivia Munn. Honestly, I think the answer is that she’s simply not that likable. Some people just aren’t.
If he were having a baby with someone people actually liked (I’m blanking on a name at this point but it would probably be someone who didn’t previously say they were “obsessed” with him when he was engaged and she was also with her boyfriend), I likely wouldn’t have clicked on this story. I wondered what she sees in him, given his addiction issues, but I also wonder what he sees in her.
Why are people blaming her for the pregnancy?? That’s disgusting. People are so supportive of John Mulaney they are largely blaming her.
It is because she’s generally disliked round these parts. You don’t have to like trash people just because they are women
I can’t stand either one of them. They both suck.
I feel like everything has been said about this situation (so sketchy!), but I wanted to point out that OM died on the hill of getting a scene with a sex offender removed from a movie she was working on, and stuck to her guns even when the rest of the crew got mad at her about it. I still don’t like her, but she’s not an unprincipled monster. Good luck to them both, they are going to need it. And I hope JM’s wife emerges on the other side of this feeling relieved to be done with this mess.
???
OM is a monster that will strike down a persons livelihood and instruct their fans to go after you in your personal and professional life simply because they didn’t Gush about how pretty you look.
That is fact from her own words and actions.
I remember, Sophie. And pretty far in advance of #metoo she brought attention to the fact that Brett Ratner took advantage of her and other young women. (Before launching her acting career in earnest, she was “in videogames” — which is its own sexist wringer.) She’s been through a lot. I think she’s thin-skinned about some little stuff because she spent her grit on the big stuff, tbh. That happens.
Also, remember like a week ago when OM said she was “dialing things back” w JM. How is he/seth/everyone missing that… so so messy…
Getting into a serious or casual relationship is severely frowned upon after rehab and having a baby with a jump-off is a straight-up terrible idea. I spent 6 months in an inpatient rehab and several of the women I met had babies with men who were in the rehab (at a different location). It has been disastrous for all involved – sobriety is new and scary, and the stress of caring for a baby when you are unfamiliar with responsibilities in general is a recipe for disaster.
It feels really personal for a lot of his fans just because SO MUCH of his material is about his (now ex-) wife, how much they loved each other, and how they didn’t want kids. I’d conservatively estimate that’s about 40-45% of his best-known routines! And it doesn’t help that OM is genuinely unlikeable (trying hard not to be mosgynsitic about OM but it’s sadly true)….she’s not responsbile for his bad decisions though! Thoughts and prayers for the innocent baby!
The only thing I have to offer is my fake Brit headline: “Mulaney Leading Lady-In-Waiting With Munn-laney Baby In Preg-nay Frenz-ay!”
Seems like Seth is still very concerned about his friend and John is trying to convince him that was so long ago and he’s better now. Hopefully I’m just reading it wrong.
I hate to say it because it seems like Seth’s heart is in the right place. And his reputation as a person is much nicer than I would have imagined. But is giving your friend who is struggling through recovery a platform to not take accountability for his actions a good idea? I understand if someone thought the pregnancy needed to be addressed. But this way? Cumberbatch tried to create some special timeline for his first kid to Google 20 years later too. And it’s like, dude that’s not going to work.
I think the interview was trying to minimize the damage to his career more than anything. Seth knows that when Mulaney isn’t working, he’s struggling (which he’s admitted before). So, as a friend, he wants him to continue to have a career he can focus on, and not fall into bad habits again.
I’m a Millenial and I’ve never heard of this guy. Who is he? What makes him so important?
Messy post rehab. I hope he gets the help he needs.
Trash. Anna apparently had her tubes tied because he didn’t want children.
What?! And I thought I was already disgusted with him. The callousness is mind-boggling.
I understand that he has an addiction and I am not faulting him in any way for that. But he doesn’t get off the hook for treating someone that badly.
Ok I just watched the interview. I actually liked it a lot. They went deep and I think it worked. I think they had to. It made me feel for John – current actions aside – addiction sucks.
All my best to his lovely ex.
I really liked the interview too. Seth doesn’t really have a full live audience because of the pandemic, so not much energy for them to feed off of.
But as far as this relationship lasting? Meh. He’s extremely fragile right now. You can feel it. Olivia was there, available, probably made that clear for a very long time, and so he just ran to her while his life was crashing around him.
He’s clinging to her. It’s fresh and new, no baggage like with a long-term marriage. So she’s his answer, he thinks. But add a baby and it’s going to be a relationship filled with stress. I dont’ think he was with his wife back when they did the intervention, because I’ve never heard her mentioned as part of the intervention. I do feel for his wife. Although, I don’t know what their marriage was like for the last year. Olivia definitely intentionally got pregnant.
Who knows? Olivia may be a crappy person, but will be a great relationship with him as he enters this sober period. I always felt Chris Cornell’s second wife was very unlikeable, but he seemed to be crazy about her and dependent upon her for his happiness.
Comics don’t really have to do damage control. He’s the talent and people will forget the shock of the divorce and move on to his newer material with him. Robin Williams left his wife for the nanny and his career was fine.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he relapsed. I hope not. But you can see he is clearly struggling as his newly sober self. He reminds me of Dave Gahan of Depeche Mode in his very early sobriety period. He didn’t even know how to perform on stage and had to have a sober companion with him for a few years. He went into rehab married (his wife used heroin also), and came out with a relationship with a woman who was in rehab, but who had herself together. She went back to NYC. He eventually moved there to be near her and said being with her, who didn’t care about celebrities and committed to being sober, and living in NYC, not LA, saved him. He’s been sober for 20-something years off of booze, heroin and cocaine and still married.
His wife is the one who organized the intervention and called Seth. It’s awful.
@Moxylady, thanks. I didn’t know that.
Obviously I don’t know any of these people personally. I do however, have my own history of anorexia (recovered from that). I do have my own history of being married to a drug addict for ten years. We are divorced because he would not get sober. I am intimately familiar with AA, and what they teach you about maintaining your sobriety. I used to go to meetings with my ex, and went to Al-non as well. John’s wife also, apparently went to her own treatment for an eating disorder. So we have two people with serious addictions going on here. No one knows what the dynamics of their relationship is/was….but I can tell you right now: John Mulaney jumping into another relationship right away, and he and Olivia having a baby so suddenly is one of the WORST things he could do for his sobriety! No sponsor would support that. Of course, he is his own person, he can choose to do as he pleases. This will not end well, IMO. And I am not putting all the blame on Olivia – in fact, I put more on John here. He is the one who is putting his sobriety at risk, thus putting his child’s future at at enormous risk as well. Let me tell you from personal experience – being the child of an alcoholic parent is fucking awful, just ask my daughter.
I feel bad for that child, and I do feel bad for John’s ex to have to live this out so publicly. Obviously they must have had some serious issues in their relationship, but this cannot be an easy pill to swallow for her, so publicly.
This is just ugly any way you cut it – sorry.
I always think how awful it must be to be married to someone famous and be left and have his new relationship plastered everywhere with the headlines all about their amazing relationship and how happeeee he is, blah, blah. But I realized it’s just as awful in regular towns where all you hear about through friends or your social circle is about your husband with their new (probably much younger) girlfriend and all of a sudden he’s doing all these fun things he would never do with you. I hear it from friends all the time, or vice-versa women leaving their husbands. It’s hard for the spouse left when their other half leaves the marriage, no matter the reasons or issues in the marriage, but twice as painful is when they have a jump-off they are proclaiming makes them so happy.
@Jayna I agree. Yes, divorce is hard enough. It is truly painful, for whatever the reasons are, even if it is for the best. But, to see your ex move on so quickly in such a public forum would be knife in the heart for anyone. I do feel very bad for John’s ex, even though I am sure her issues played a part in the marriage’s demise. It rarely is just one’s person’s fault. Even though, in my marriage, my ex was the one with the addiction, I feel into very co-dependent behaviors, which was not healthy for either of us. I became very angry and resentful, which was not good for him. The end of long marriages are never simple, especially ones with the dynamics of addictions. It took me going back to therapy to accept my role and responsibility as well.
As I said in my original comment, this is just so messy.
Amyb
In any normal relationship that ends you can safely assume both sides played some fault.
But this is a marriage with addiction to hard substances. One side can definitely be doing everything to help the other that is battling addiction. They can do everything right and still it ends. That doesn’t mean both sides had fault. That means addiction ruins people and everything they are near.
I believe firmly addicts that are not well into long term recovery will seek escapes to avoid facing the pain they’ve caused others.
Like JM… go back to your wife that worries for you, that you’ve scared and put through pain for you? Or go to this person that has stalked you on social media looking for her chance. A fresh start with someone that hasn’t been hurt by your addictions.
The choice is easy to rationalize for addicts. And leads to temporary recovery because of new distractions, but they always fade.
@Wiglet Watcher – I never ever said John’s ex was enabling him. I said in some situations, addicts are enabled by their partners. I was trying to give an example of how addiction is a family disease, and not just solely the addict’s fault. It is far more complicated than that. Again, I have no clue of the dynamics of John and Anna’s relationship. Neither do you. Neither does anyone, but them. No one really knows if Anna had a relapsing ED? It was reported she checked into rehab for an eating disorder around the same time as John checking into rehab for his addiction. At least that was what was reported in the press.
I have said over and over, the one thing I do know, from my own experience of suffering from anorexia (and recovering after 15 years) and being married to a cocaine and heroin addict for 10 years – that John jumping into a new relationship is ONE thing almost everyone agrees could be very detrimental to his sobriety. Yes, he absolutely should have worked on himself – that is the key. Until he deals with all his issues, they are simply just buried, waiting to come out again. That is the only thing I know for sure about this situation. But of course, it is his choice ultimately.
Yes @KissMyA**23 – you are correct too, some sponsors are not good; just as some therapists are not. And many people do relapse, yet some do not. It really can be a crap shoot.
@Wiglet Watcher
I do hear what you saying, but addiction is a family disease, there is no dispute about that. It is not fair to think, oh the addict just has to stop using and all is peachy again. People can sometimes enable the addict for their own reasons. John’s wife apparently had her own issues of addiction with an eating disorder. So you had TWO people here with SERIOUS addictions. Eating disorders are just as, if not, more serious. Rather than just quit using the substance at hand, an eating disordered person has to learn to cope with gaining a normal relationship with food and their body. And at the core of all addictions, are serious fundamental issues that have nothing to do with just using. The using is an escape. Which is why having a therapist, or using the support of a community or group such as AA, is so vitally important. Furthermore, you are correct. Part of recovery is facing the consequences of your actions, and being held responsible for the collateral damage you caused the people you love. That is part of the 12 steps of AA.
People used to say to me, just eat, just gain weight. Until I addressed the trauma of my childhood, that was not the solution. There were very dysfunctional dynamics going on. Essentially, that is the case with almost all addictions, whether they are drug, alcohol, eating, gambling or sex related. Trust me, I have dealt with these things for most of my adult life. As the addict and as the partner of an addict. It is simply unfair to say, John just had to go back to his wife. We do not know the dynamics of their relationship.
I can say, his choice to jump into a new relationship and now have a baby, is VERY unhealthy for his sobriety. And to do so publicly has got to be devastating to his ex.
Amyb
By all accounts it seems Anna did not have relapsing ED. It was stress induced by the situation caused by JM. Which might be me assuming, but yours makes a lot of assumptions.
I’m generalizing. I’ve been well acquainted with addiction in a partner and the horrors of it. I’ve also battled my ED. And let me tell you my ED was out of control when I dated an alcoholic. Not for reasons it previously had. Just because life was chaos. I also think it’s a bit unfair to say she was enabling him. How? She organized his intervention. I’ll need more with statement like that.
And no. Of course, JM never had to return to his wife, but did he have to start up with his long term pursuer between rehab stints and not divorce his wife until he knocked up his side piece? Especially when you should work on yourself first and he’s already talking like his sobriety depends on this new baby. Which is beyond unhealthy.
Here’s the thing about the sponsor message you stated, “no sponsor would support that”. We don’t know his sponsor, or when the pregnancy occurred. Obviously, if they were casual bc he just got out of rehab and then she got pregnant, it’s understandable that now he would want to be with her. Is he supposed to not be with Olivia because she had an oops baby?
Yes, you are correct, there are so many things that are unhealthy with his new sobriety. But life happens around you, what are you going to do with it? People die, big changes occur and you don’t have control over it, but that’s LIFE! It’s how you deal with it that matters. I’ve been sober 15 years. I’ve been through so many things while sober, and it sucks, but you deal. Was I ready for a relationship at 9 months of sobriety, no I wasn’t. Is he ready for his? Probably not. Try to tell an addict how to live being newly sober and you’ll get an earful.
Not to mention, he’s famous, his sponsor may coddle him, who knows. I’ve seen sponsors that are great, and some that suck. Hell, most of the sponsors I’ve had, relapsed. And I didn’t. Also, what they teach you in AA/NA is that you will relapse. Which is BS. I did because they told me I would, so after I relapsed, I never went back.
Just goes to show you, sometimes going against the grain works, although 95% of the time it doesn’t. Just depends on the person.
I do not know who this dude is and never heard about him or paid attention to him before this website. From my perspective, this entire situation is a non-entity. Perhaps going to rehab made him have a “Come to Jesus” moment regarding certain life goals. Perhaps for him, he wanted a clean break and a fresh start. Maybe there were unconscious emotions present and once he did some emotional work in rehab he decided to make a different choice. There isn’t anything scandalous here. A man decided to divorce his wife and move on. He does not share children with his soon-to-be ex-wife; therefore, he shouldn’t tiptoe his life events around hers either. That is a part of the breakup process. It sounds like a lot of his fans are projecting.
If you think there’s nothing scandalous here, you’re not paying attention. But you did admit to not knowing or paying attention to this whole thing Before this. It’s been going on for a bit. It’s all messy and scandalous.
I think because you don’t know the background you’re filling in the blanks, but it’s good gossip with even more backstory to why OM is not referred to by name around here anymore.
Wiglet Watcher, I don’t know him as a comedian but I have “following” since hw went to rehab. And my opinion is a giant shrug. Sounds like he is disconnecting from what he doesn’t want anymore and is choosing something else. I know that addicts aren’t supposed to be in relationships after rehab. I’m rooting for the baby in this scenario
My understanding is that it’s not a good idea to jump into these kinds of situations quickly when you’re just coming out of rehab.
Even without the addiction issues, all of this seems a bit too fast. Even if you’re a perfectly well-adjusted person, I would get whiplash from reading how fast all of this moved.
In the video, I can’t even really tell if he’s actually happy with his life choices. When he said he’s having a baby, he seemed kind of subdued yet petrified at the same time. I think I was expecting him to seem a little more elated. I got the impression this appearance was done as some kind of damage control to make sure he said everything correctly so he could temper down the Twitter frenzy and gossip.
Remarks, I honestly started dating my now husband a week after I broke up with my then boyfriend. So I guess him moving quickly doesn’t really bother me either.
He’s having a kid though. That’s the part that looks extremely fast. And you had a boyfriend, not a husband. Your timeline has been slower.
Hmmm… interesting because nobody knows the true timeliness but him and his soon to be ex wife. People moving fast into relationships isn’t necessarily a bad or good thing. It’s just a thing. It’s something that only the people involved can determine. Lastly, I don’t personally think it’s wise for someone so fresh out of rehab to be in a new relationship or expecting a child but once again, to each their own. He’s entitled to change the direction of his life at anytime if it is for the greater good. He is the only one to determine what that looks like and what that means. We can all chat good gossip but no one’s opinion is more wrong or right in this particular scenario.
I don’t think anyone’s opinion is more right or wrong either since we don’t really know any of these people, but, to be honest, I didn’t really have an opinion until he went on TV to discuss his whole life and now the media is writing about it. This story would have probably gone over my head if his talk show appearance hadn’t happened. Now I’m more inquisitive and curious than I ever would have been just from reading all the stories. It’s like when you pick up a book by accident and suddenly want to learn more — how is it going to end?
Prior to the talk show appearance, I don’t think I had an opinion on him whatsoever even though I’d seen a bit of his stand-up on Youtube and thought he was kind of funny, but not enough to really feel strongly about him.
Everything else might be ambiguous in the timeline, and technically, yes, only he would know, but a pregnancy you can just clock back 9 months from the time of the birth (or however months premature the baby comes in which is usually admitted to in the press release). That part is almost impossible to keep vague. And unless he was outright cheating with the new girlfriend farther back in the marriage than we know (which isn’t a good look at all, either way you slice it), the pregnancy at this point in time does look a bit fast.
Either he was cheating early on and moved slower with the new girlfriend than we know, or he was faithful until the breakdown of the marriage and got the new girlfriend pregnant at a very swift pace during a recovery period — the first scenario with the alleged cheating makes him look bad; the second scenario has everyone hoping all three come out of the situation unharmed and unscathed.
What a masterfully written and delivered set of talking points. It was like listening to a dissertation defense. Not for one minute do I believe John was clear with Anna that their marriage was over last October. I feel for her.
Neither of them are much on my radar, but I kept seeing headlines about Mulaney and a new gf. Kept thinking I was crazy, like, “I totally thought he was married.” Kind of sucks how that little detail has just been glossed over. Hope this ends peacefully for everyone, but it sounds pretty ugly.
Slightly off-topic, but him saying that Harry and Meghan were desperate for publicity was off-putting. Really, John? That’s the only thing you got out of Meghan explaining what she experienced as a working royal? smdh.
Especially since he got with someone that is very, very hungry for publicity. Harry and Meghan pop up every once in a while and then they’re wrote about for months and months. John’s girlfriend would love it.
I had the same problem. The stuff with OM was sketchy enough but when combined with those comments about Harry and Meghan, John just seems like an ass. Calling Meghan in particular attention seeking is a huge red flag because it’s not a fact based conclusion (we’ve only seen her and their children a handful of times over the last year and half) and it reveals a huge lack of empathy. Lack of empathy on John’s part is backed up by the way he spoke about Anna in the interview after she’s been so respectful of him.
His new relationship wouldn’t strike me as strange if the new girlfriend hadn’t admitted she was obsessed with him while he was engaged. That does affect my perspective of the situation.
I couldn’t help but wonder if she pursued him while he was married and once he had a moment of weakness (as in addiction breakdown, not necessarily fulfilling a sexual need) she kind of plowed in. Granted, he’s the one responsible for his marriage but her obsession with him prior to actually even meeting him doesn’t really make her sound endearing.
I don’t get why people are doubting his timeline given their split was already big news last year. Did people just forget that? There’d been rumours for months (and for longer within comedy circles) and then his ex scrubbed him from her IG and changed back to her maiden name in December, which opened the floodgates and they both leaked stories about them living seperate lives. His reps told Page Six back then that he’d asked her for a divorce in October. None of this is new information, the timeline he’s giving is the same as they both gave in December.
:shrug: The only statement from his reps in December I remember was that he was going to rehab. However, there was speculation that his marriage was in trouble due to Anna’s social media behavior at the time. And that didn’t seem too outrageous. Obviously, we’ll never know but it seems like she thought things might be salvageable and he told her in March that they weren’t? Who knows. Maybe he didn’t even do that.
John M is well known in comedy circles to not have been faithful to his wife. And he may have been on/off the wagon a few times. The comedy world protects him but they talk amongst themselves. His wife should be better off after the initial trauma. Gaslighting someone is no joke. It’s better she’s knows and heals.
I don’t know where you heard that, but it’s not true, and I’ve known plenty of comedians. In fact, what I’ve heard from them is that, for example, Mulaney’s ex-wife didn’t attend the emmy awards with him because she told him he wasn’t going to win, anyway. The point is, they weren’t good for each other and they broke up. He isn’t the first comedian to be imperfect and he won’t be the last.
Considering the fact that John himself told that story about the Emmy’s on television on stage, it doesn’t really make sense to present it as something you heard from your contacts in the comedy world. Also, who knows what was already happening in the marriage when she said that.
Oh, Kaiser, how I love that you did not mention that thirsty opportunist’s name. Now if only someone would make an app to replace her and her fake face with a potato.
I don’t have it in me to be attracted to an addict. I would always be worried of when “falling off the wagon” would happen because most likely it WILL happen. His ex may be in pain now but this is actually the best for her. She actually has a lucky escape. I don’t have anything against the new couple, I am just speaking about the element of one of the members being an addict.
Well sometimes you are in a relationship, and you find out later the person is an addict (my situation). In John’s case, I think it was a known history. But when someone has a long history of sobriety, which he seemed to, one can see the positive in that. It is a risk for sure, no doubt about that! But addicts/alcoholics can achieve long term sobriety. John M might just not be the best example.
I totally understand, just not for me.
I saw a what I thought was a good comment about this. People are allowed to move on with their lives. Yes at one point he loved his ex-wife, maybe she was his muse, but now they are no longer in that place and are now divorced. He was a mess and caused her a lot of pain,. Why stay in that situation? Sometimes it’s good riddance when the bad guy leaves. He’s moving on with someone else, having a child. Now they will have to deal with whatever comes if it. I don’t follow these people, not invested in any of them to feel outrage, but this year has messed with a lot of relationships and brought out a lot of people’s issues.
I think one of the main issues is that he said frequently and publicly that he didn’t want kids. Not just them as a couple but HIM. He talked about it in his comedy, talked about how cold his father was. He didn’t use those exact words, but he made it clear. He’s talked about his father’s formality with his kids, how the four of them would be clamoring in the back seat to go to Burger King and he would then pull in and order nothing except a cup of coffee for himself.
Now he immediately moves on with a woman who was actually gunning for him while he was engaged and she’s pregnant? Huh?
He didn’t handle the end of his marriage with respect for his wife, and that’s very uncool. She was clearly in pain about it, if you look at her social media posts. I’m not disappointed in him for having addiction issues or for ending his marriage. I’m disappointed because of how he went about it.
Whether or not he wanted kids, he’s not the decider in this one , and people are allowed to change their mind. Many a time you change partners and your outlook changes. He seems like a wobbly mess and moving so fast, but it is what it is and the baby is coming. Hopefully he’ll step up and be a better parent than he had, but he needs to work on himself.
The interview was weird. He referred to OM as “this woman”. It didn’t sound like he is in love. She’s just someone he hooked up with and oh yeah, they’re having a kid together now. He doesn’t seem to have hit rock bottom and I think he knows it. I think he was trying to convince everyone including himself that he’s okay now when he clearly isn’t. I agree with others that a relapse or worse is coming. It’s sad to watch this happening.
Seconded.
The lede is one slick burn, hahahahahahahahahahahna!