At this point, I’m trying not to spin out some wild conspiracy about Robert Lacey and what he’s actually doing. He’s a royal historian who was somewhat respected at one point. Last year, his book Battle of Brothers was pretty shady towards both Prince William and Prince Harry, almost in equal measure. Then it definitely felt like Lacey was co-opted by Kensington Palace/William and suddenly Lacey began parroting KP’s talking points about everything. Lacey co-authored the current People Magazine cover story, claiming William is (already?) the perfect king and he’s the future of the monarchy, not Charles.
Is it weird that to feel like Lacey is also sort of talking out of both sides of his mouth? He’s writing in that very specific way of certain royal reporters, leaving enough room for interpretation for people who actually follow royal gossip. In a previous story, Lacey wrote: “As royal parents, both Kate and William have focused on … working to ensure that all three of their children enjoy the peaceful childhood that eluded William and Harry.” While factual, it does feel like the idea behind it is “William and Kate are staying together for the sake of the kids.” Lacey also seems to be saying that William is very image-conscious and he’ll do anything to avoid divorce:
Prince William and Kate Middleton marked their 10th wedding anniversary this past spring with a set of new portraits in which the royal couple (who were together for eight years prior to their engagement) beam and embrace. Whether they’re glittering on the red carpet or stepping into nature with their three children, the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge represent a united front — supportive spouses and partners in parenthood.
According to royal historian Robert Lacey, William’s steady, stable relationship with his beloved Catherine makes for a sharp contrast to the generations of strained royal marriage before theirs.
“The House of Windsor has an abysmal track record of marital failure, but William has broken the cycle,” writes Lacey, who surveyed the future king’s fraught relationship with his younger sibling, Prince Harry, in Battle of Brothers.
Lacey gives much credit to Kate, whom he describes as an “empathetic outsider from middle class origins.”
Lacey notes that Kate understands the importance of her role as future monarch’s consort and mother to a future king and key royals — and that providing stability in all those areas is paramount. She and William “have focused on … working to ensure that all three of their children — [Prince] George, 6-year-old Princess Charlotte and 3-year-old Prince Louis — enjoy the peaceful childhood that eluded William and Harry.”
If you ask me, I think Harry is the one who has truly broken the cycle of Windsor dysfunction. And that’s why all of the dysfunctional Windsors are so mad at him: he married for love, not convenience, he married someone strong and awesome without worrying about being “overshadowed.” He left la isla de saltines and truly broke out of the toxic cycle. While William and Kate’s marriage may not end in divorce, let’s not kid ourselves: the Cambridge marriage is not actually breaking any kind of toxic cycle. Their marriage is its own toxic cycle.
Photos courtesy of Avalon Red, Backgrid.
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Wait, that wasn’t satire??
That was my reaction. What’s he smoking?
I’m loving the toxicity spin cycle their marriage is stuck in. Both are truly trapped. if nothing else Baldimort will hate to be compared to his father and Kkopy Khate will not want to lose face or rank. It’s the poor kids stuck in the spin that I’m sorry for.
I literally laughed out loud when I read this item.
Don’t you just want to shout, hello Robert, have you met will and Kate? Cause I don’t know what that is, but it’s definitely not a happy marriage
Umm yeah, the “don’t touch me” moments scream healthy happy marriage 🤭🤣😳
So trimming another woman’s rosebushes is healthy? This guy is delusional.
“His beloved Catherine.” PLEASE. Gimme a break!
Uhm, William’s parents divorced after 16 years. That means their marriage still 6 years on the Cambridges. So, please do calm down dear Cambridge sycophants.🙄🙄
I’m conflicted on this. Part of me things william will go for a divorce once the queen kicks the bucket. On the other hand Lacey is right, william IS very image conscious and this whole family man image is the only thing he’s got over his father. Plus in the wake of sussexit a royal divorce would be disastrous.
There’s no reason for William to get a divorce unless Kate kicks up a serious fuss, and I don’t see her ever doing that. Then again, William could fall head-over-heels in love and want to marry someone else, but I have trouble imaging that, too.
the only reason for william to divorce is if he finds someone else he would like to marry and who would want to marry him. that is not going to happen for a long time because he is just repulsive. so Buttons is stuck with him and she will maintain her silence to continue living the life of leisure she has always dreamed of.
Yeah I don’t see him going for a divorce. He’s just going to have his fun and expect her to accept it.
I fully agree that Harry seems to be the one who has really broken the cycle. It’s kind of fascinating and sad, to see what their childhood did to each of them – Harry was kind of lost, then grew up and found his backbone and a purpose, and William has just dug deeper and deeper into the monarchy.
He would go for a divorce as long as there is no hint of scandal, no hint of affairs. We’ve gotten several years worth of PR that leans towards ‘William the single father and his kids’. If he could pull a concious uncoupling, he’d do it, and no one would fight it. The Middletons are not popular, nobody would be sad to see them go.
There’s one very good reason for William to go for a divorce, and that’s that he obviously cannot stand being around his wife. It’s not like the Queen and Phillip, where he had his affairs and they lived pretty separate lives at the end etc. William can’t even fake it at something light like the Bond premiere. They can’t pretend to get along when they know the cameras are rolling (shrug-gate). William can’t even look at her when she is talking without a look of contempt or embarrassment on his face.
Why would he want someone he can’t stand being around present for historic moments like his coronation, or his investiture as Prince of Wales, etc? Why would he want to have to fake it in those pictures for the rest of his life?
Maybe he can because the rest of the time he lives his life and does his thing so those photo ops don’t bother him. But we’ve seen his behavior towards her in public deteriorate very obviously in the past few years; this isn’t a couple who live separate lives but come together well enough when its required of them.
Miserable keen stans love that William chose keen because she represents everything that they are, dull, boring and bland af. Their stans are in denial that he doesn’t really love her because they are so desperate to validate Kate’s desirability as a way of validating their own. So if Willie rejects Kate and divorces her, those stans (his only fans) will not be happy about Kate being rejected, because they will feel rejected. So my point is Willie has a lot to lose by dumping Kate and he’s so desperate for any fans.
But I think he is well and truly done with her. I think kate thinks he will divorce her based on how threatened she is about losing her position. If she thought she was safe she wouldn’t act the way she does. But Willie would have to well and truly villainize keen, and find another wife to is just as dull as her, so the stans will be satisfied.
Not just that they had 6 yrs over the Lames at this point, but Ol’ Brenda and Phil had 73 yrs, didn’t they? And how is TOBB different? He cheats, just like Phil. He *seems* to be living apart from his wife, just like Phil, he meddles in govt, just like Ol’ Gramps.
So how is TOBB *the first* to break ANY cycle??
If anything, HARRY broke the cycle.
I wouldn’t say just like Phil, Phil actually seemed fond of his wife when they were in public together…
These RotaRats are ALWAYS projecting the Sussexes success on to Willnot & Kannot and the RF in general. Its always Opposite Day on struggle island. LMAO
Nah, William will not get divorced. No reason to. He can maintain his image and trim rose bushes on the side, as he has always done.
I think they will likely live apart, and in fact may be doing so already, but he’s not going to bring scrutiny on himself.
I think they’d rather be miserable together than happy apart. William cares about his image and Kate was basically raised to be a royal wife. Unless something crazy happens, they’ll stay together. Maybe live separately, but remain married.
This reminded me of the kind of quotes that are published after a celebrity makes their first statement after having a baby. They all say things about how motherhood is such hard work, but worth it, and how much being a parent has changed them.
I always think, “Your baby is less than one week old! Get back to us in 15 years with your thoughts on parenting.”
Ten years isn’t nothing, but it also isn’t enough time to declare the marriage a total success, imo…they’re still young and things could change.
So true. My marriage was great the first ten years, then middle age angst kicked in for both of us and the next five were really really rough.
These two have been gimping through this marriage, just as they struggled through the few years prior to their wedding. Repeated breakups, cheating, William wanting any woman but Kate.
This was a uni romance that should have ended at graduation, but for the Middletons, their ambitions, and William’s general laziness.
I totally agree lorelei. I can’t believe this is the hill they want to die on? So many unpredictable things can happen in your personal life that you can’t control. What may look stable suddenly….isn’t.
I always thought they were taking a huge risk by presenting themselves as the perfect parents/family and therefore their kids will never have mental or emotional problems, because God forbid those kids are ever less than perfect, they’ll be eating crow for the rest of their lives. And presenting the “perfect couple” image also has similar risks. Sigh. Can’t they just focus on their “work”?
Charles and Diana separated in 1992 so I don’t count the last four years of their marriage before their official divorce in 1996. They were leading separate lives even before their separation. They put up with each other for 11 years (and we know that Charles had been cheating with Camilla years before 1992). Length of marriage is never an indicator of success.
They were leading separate lives but coming together for public appearances. They still were married however, legally. Kate and William could be together for appearances and the children, but they could stay technically married.
Charles and Diana also barely knew each other when they got married – they had met 4 years earlier (when she was 16 and he was 29, which… ick. He was also dating her 21-year-old sister at the time, which is also ick.) They started courting in mid-1980, he proposed in February 1981 and they married that July.
Katie Keen and Willie have been together for 18 years (which, wow I feel old!) at this point, which is 1 year shy of Diana and Charles’s entire time knowing each other – from meeting at 16/29 to the divorce being finalized. K&W knew each other for a couple years before they got together as well, and lived together before getting married (which I recall scandalizing my royal-loving ultra religious grandmother.)
I don’t really have a point here, I’m just procrastinating at work.
@lucy2 – To be fair…no, I don’t want to be fair…but, to be realistic – William has the throne to look forward to for the rest of his life. The best Harry had to look forward to was Wills getting run over by a bus.
Aw, yes!! Baldimort has truly broken the vicious cycle of divorce but has remained a steady bevy of loyal lovers on the side…you mean that kind of steady and royal relationship? Please, Lacey, that type of royal marriage commitment? If so, yes!! He has truly broken the “curse” of disastrous marriages that have plagued the royal family!!
Until TQ dies, then all bets are off!!
Well, if the model Royal marriage is TQ&Philip, yes, that’s what it means. The good old days of discreet cheating are back on, hip hip hurray!
And honestly, I’m pretty sure both parties entered the marriage with their eyes open. William’s whole relationship with Kate and the Midds is a subtweet of Charles/Diana/Camilla.
It’s his unique selling point. The grand facade will hide the crumbling ruins for a while longer, I’m sure – until George can take focus on his own, at least.
We always talk about William and how miserable he looks and assume because Kate is always giving him gooey eyes she feels the opposite. She could be just as miserable behind closed doors but just has a better public poker face. At this point she probably feels better to stay in the circle than out(what happened to Fergie,Di,Meg) is not worth it.
I agree. She probably doesn’t have the same feelings for William she once did but knows that if she’s caught scowling at William or making faces at him, people will wonder why she’s doing that. And people zoom in on her because she gets the most attention between her and William.
I mean, #PigeonShrug made its rounds on the internet.
Remember when they did that video for st. Patricks day? There were so many comments about the state of their marriage. “If she could throw him under a bus, she would”, “there’s no way these 2 still sleep in the same bed” etc etc. It was very interesting to read, especially since they weren’t royal watchers.
I do remember the vid of them being on some TV show, and she shrugged off his hand. Things were not happy in Lameland that day.
TOBB also got Covid, and no one else in his household did.
ALL of a sudden they’re Zooming from Sandringham instead of their own huge home (you will *never* convince me they couldn’t find a quiet room there, or have the nannies take the Little Lamelettes outside to a park to insure the quiet when they had to do the calls).
All is NOT happy in Royal Land.
I agree, Kate knows how to put on a show. As long as she smiles like a bobble head at William, people eat up that everything is great. It’s a lot of fun though when Kate accidentally slips–the infamous shrug was definitely a reflexive accident that I bet Carole raked her over the coals for. And even with the recent Bond movie premiere, there is some footage of her gently but reflexively pulling away from William’s touch.
L84Tea: I agree she is all show and pretty good at it. She lets the facade slip every so often … There are clips on Twitter where it shows her moving away from William on the red carpet for the James Bond movie the other day. I wish I could find them, but I can’t.
William def does not pretend in photos and barely looks at Kate, which always leads to discussions of divorce. What’s interesting here is that Lacey is mentioning how William actually takes pride in the fact that he’s not divorced, like it’s something he has over his father, this perfect marriage. If that’s true and Kate knows this, then wouldn’t that make her feel pretty secure since William is so invested in this image? But if he’s so invested, why in the world doesn’t he try harder in the photos? I still think that at some point the truth will leak bc the press will not hold back forever, especially after the queen’s death.
@Jais, seriously, it comes across as if William thinks he deserves a gold star for *not getting divorced*. Someone shouldn’t be praised for doing the bare minimum, exactly what’s expected of them in the first place.
People always do this when they see a father taking care of his children: he gets praised for “babysitting.” As if half of the responsibility isn’t his in the first place, and he’s being magnanimous by spending time with his own kids. It’s not “babysitting” when it’s your own child, ffs. 🙄
Just like honoring your marriage vows is automatically expected. (I’m not saying there aren’t valid reasons for many divorces, but in this case, people are acting as if William is doing something heroic for the monarchy simply by not divorcing his wife — yet.) And they may stay married until they die, but what is that worth when he only looks at her with derision?
All I see when I look at these two , are two people putting on a play of unity and togetherness for the public. And she is clearly doing her job better. He can’t even manage to look at her and fake it for 1 minute.
@Noki, ITA and definitely think Kate is miserable behind closed doors. She puts on a good act (well, she tries), but not only is it clear that William is not proud of her, he often looks as if he’s actively embarrassed by her.
It’s the most obvious when she’s doing any kind of public speaking when he’s there…the mortification is written all over his face. It is so rude and disloyal, and imo it reflects poorly on William, not on his wife. No, Kate isn’t the best at making speeches, but her HUSBAND should be able to manage to look supportive and encouraging, not as if he’s thisclose to rolling his eyes. I’m not even a Kate fan, but still feel sorry for her whenever this happens. In photos, she’s always looking at him like the heart-eye emoji, and he generally ignores her.
I hate the fact that my mind always jumps to making comparisons between Kate and Meghan, and those of us here on this site have been saying this for years, way before Meghan came along— but the fact that Meghan is naturally *such* an excellent public speaker (I know some people attribute it to her acting experience, but I don’t; imo she sounds the same when she’s speaking off the cuff with no script or prepared remarks) and the way that Harry is so visibly proud of her when she speaks really underscores how nasty William is compared to his brother.
I think like a lot of people, when your obsessed with someone you think you love them and are in love with them. But the reality is she just wants validation from him. He probably gives her zero love, praise and affection. She’s just wants him to tell her he loves her. Just like Charles and Diana, I think Diana thought she was in love, but really she just wanted him to tell her he love her, because she needed to hear that validation from him.
But keen is definitely miserable in her life.
I think William has a mean streak. Always has always will.
Kate has a mean streak too. Always has, always will.
They’ve only been married for 10 years. It’s too early to say they’ve broken the cycle. Once all of the kids are grown and out of the house then they can say that.
Yeah they seem really happy together. Lol.
One of my FB contacts used to spend a lot of time posting about her ‘wonderful’ husband. The flowers and cars he bought her, how lucky she was, the trips they took etc. Yesterday I found out that she had just divorced and is now telling everyone her husband is a narcissistic a*sehole who cheated on her throughout the entire marriage and treated her like crap.
This saccharine insistence on the perfection of the Cambridges’ marriage is ringing all the same bells to me.
She could have bought that stuff herself. My BIL doesn’t buy gifts for my sister. He just tells her to go buy something and she’ll pass it off as he bought it for her and her kids have tattled on her.
Same thing Kate does. Buys herself stuff with Duchy money, passes it off as gifts from William. Eternity band is one example.
+1
(I’ve known far to many of these blissfully happy and morally superior couples who were miserable, and it all comes out during the divorce).
The pandemic broke at least 5 marriages that my husband and I are aware of. They definitely acted ‘so in love’ both in public and online. Now the mitts seem to be off and it is not pretty.
As a family therapist I see a lot of couples who talk about their acquaintances “perfect marriages”, not know that I’ve seen those people and know how not perfect they are. Lots of people put on an act, or try to for the kids, other family, or status.
Yup. Usually the louder someone publicly crows about their “perfect” partner, the more unhappy they probably are. I’ve seen it in my own life too, including someone who is “happier now that ever” after their “perfect” spouse passed away (!).
And in celebrities too, it reminds me of how Heidi Klum and Seal used to do a big, publicized vow renewal every year, and then splat, divorce. The Jolie Pitts always raved about each other until that imploded. Hiddleswift.
Yes, I remember when Jolie and Pitt got together and had the large family. They were the darlings of Hollywood, perfect couple, happy at last. And look how that turned out.
This happened with someone I know. She was ALWAYS posting about how important it is to find a good man who loves you, how lucky she was, blah blah blah, then one day… BOOM! She’s single, her divorce is fast-tracking. We went out to a food festival a month later and I was like “what the he-l-l happened?!” She tells me that they hadn’t had sex in seven years and he wouldn’t tell her why.
That was the moment I realized that if someone is posting on FB constantly about their over-the-top happy life, marriage, etc., the opposite is almost always true.
I agree, Harry is the one who broke this cycle. He’s not a petty little man jealous of his wife’s popularity — he is proud of how strong, intelligent, and personable his wife is, married for love above all else, and acts as a true partner to her in life and in their community work. He removed his young family from a toxic situation and didn’t look back. THAT is breaking the cycle of dysfunction and unhappy marriages.
I thought William was a little too into rose bushes to pay attention to Kate, no?
@Case, ITA, it’s absolutely Harry who has broken a dysfunctional cycle, not William.
Its always Opposite Day in royalLaLaLand. Count on it.
So this is the party line. William has “broken the cycle” of marital strife…by living separate lives and hoping no one notices. This could be the grey men at BP boxing him in–telling him he can’t leave his wife no matter what. Lacey could be parrotting their party line and not KPs. After all, Phillip was able to live his separate life, so William will be expected to toe the line.
Phillip actually had respect for Betty and I think that is the difference that will determine whether or not the Keens stay together. The way William looks at Kate is just awful. He can’t even look at her when she makes a speech; he’s literally looking at clouds. William doesn’t even try to pretend that there is any affection between them the way Kate does and that is the kicker right there. Playing the part so you can both save face at least shows that you have a semblance of caring about how it makes your spouse look, but William straight up ignores her. He doesn’t respect her so the separate lives and keeping up appearances won’t work for took long. It’s not going to be a Betty and Phil type of relationship. If you don’t have respect, you have nothing, not even love.
Yeah Phillip at least seemed to enjoy being around the Queen, even at the end, when we saw those pictures of them at Windsor around the time of their anniversary – they seemed to be laughing together in a genuine way, not in a forced way.
sure they had their separate lives and he had his affairs but it seems they still had some type of a relationship besides that .
The difference between Philip and William is that Philip came from nothing, knew his place and his role and was good friends with the queen. They came to an arrangement and knew how to keep a lid on things. The Incandescent one is not highly emotionally intelligent and can’t even keep his emotions in check. Plus he has very loose-lipped inlaws who love to prattle to the press at the drop of a hat. I am eagerly watching this space.
In the beginning William enabled Kate’s laziness and leaned into the normal Bill routine. Their laziness began biting them in the ass around 2016 and then Meghan came along and it blew up in their faces. Now William sees Kate and her complete ineptitude as a liability. Of course he doesn’t respect her as she’s supposed to make him look good and her schtick of mostly stay at home mother doesn’t sell so well with the team of staff and full time Nanny. This is not to say William isn’t utterly contemptible but this would be his entitled and grandiose perspective on things. He’s not shining like Harry and Kate is partly to blame cuz she doesn’t shine like Meghan.
In the James Bond premiere, as William and Kate walked to the entrance Kate looked at William and was trying to engage him but William was adamant and didn’t even give her a passing glance all the way. It gives people the impression that he’s not proud of his wife despite the fact that the British media were fawning over how lovely she looked that evening. He’s not ashamed to show the world that his wife embarrasses him for being shallow and not being smart. She doesn’t make him proud. He doesn’t love her. She’s just convenient. No matter how much the British media prop this marriage up, it will end in tears.
Not to make too big a point of the Bond premiere, but it is our most recent example of their body language, especially after a summer where Kate was MIA, and she was oddly banned from the Diana statue unveiling.
Not only did William refuse to make eye contact and give her that Meghan/Harry loved-up moment, but he redirected her once they were on stage, making her move from the center of the foursome to the outer position. Kate did not like that — there was no real reason why Kate couldn’t stay where she was.
Then, there are photos from below of them standing in the royal box before the movie began and the spacing between Burger King and his Side Order of Fries is enough for two or three more people to fit in. He really distanced himself physically from her. No chance of Kate leaning in or whispering to him when they were so far apart.
If the marriage is affectionate, if the marriage has love, you interact and exchange glances and little asides to each other. The Bond outing had none of that.
@harper, the photo you are referring to actually has a person in the background easily seen between them and that person is set back further, so the space is even more than just the width of one person.
Also there is video of William briefly touching her back and she flinched a bit.
So they really need to stop with the perfect marriage stuff because it’s more than obvious something is off, even more than usual.
Phil did not respect Betty. He publicly cheated on her with an actress while she was pregnant with Chuck. His mistresses flaunted their relationships with him.
William probably looks at Phillip and thinks if he could it, then why can’t I?
I think Philip had his moments. There were lots of rumours and press reports in the 60s about his shenanigans. However that was a different time. He needs to be a far better actor and both need to choose their side pieces wisely.
I think William sees Kate as liability at this point and that does not bode well for her security. She doesn’t make him look good at all, which is what a consort is supposed to do. If it wasn’t for the sycophantic press surrounding her, it would be more apparent to the public. Meghan being such an asset to Harry’s image, probably made William rethink things, on top of the fact that he can barely hide his contempt for Kate. Philip was invaluable to the queen, to the point where the family is falling apart without him and we know the William values the kind of support Phil gave because he said so in the BBC special. He cannot be saying those things about Phil and not be questioning what Kate brings to his role as king.
@JT, ITA. I think he was always mildly embarrassed by her, but it wasn’t until Meghan came along and the comparisons between she and Kate began that he realized just what a liability Kate was, and how the right partner could make him better himself. Kate has been mediocre for the entire time they’ve been married, but once he saw Harry’s wife in action, it became impossible for him to even pretend anymore. Meghan was the better duchess from day one and the Sussexes were a much happier couple. It was so obvious to the entire world.
The thing that William doesn’t seem to realize (or accept) is that this also applies to him and Harry. Seeing the way Harry treats Meghan only highlights how badly William treats his own wife, but I doubt William is self-reflective enough to see it and/or to care. I’m sure he blames Kate (actually everyone except himself) for the way the Sussexes made the Cambridges, their work ethic, and their success look in comparison.
@Lorelei I agree in all points. Meghan coming along changed everything for everyone. She highlighted Kate’s uselessness in her role, reminded William how he settled, and once again proved that Harry was better by landing such a woman, and that’s not even getting Charles and the Diana comparisons to Meg. I absolutely believe that Harry and Meg’s relationship has William questioning his and he felt that his own marriage was lacking. William wants to be a power couple in the same way the H&M are and Kate isn’t cutting it. I also believe he is attracted to Meghan and obsessed with her , which is one of the reasons Kate was “wary of Meghan from the start.”
@ JT and Lorelei… that’s what I think too. William could conceal his disdain prior to Meghan showing up because he didn’t realize how bad Kate was at the public aspect of the job and Meghan coming in and being good right away really showed how little Kate did and how bad she was at speeches, after a decade.
That and H and M being publicly affectionate likely got him annoyed because he never wanted to do that and he had moved beyond being able to pretend in public. Kate would do the public affection in a second. Ok maybe not now, but prior to the rose affair coming out she would have.
@Jt I agree with you. I think William started the smear campaign because he could not have Meghan. He has been extremely aggressive towards her in the press. Using piers as his proxy in the media. Unfortunately this kind of thing happens to women all over the world. Spreading lies about her on social media, calling her all kinds of bitch, whore, psychopath. Starting rumors she was a prostitute. He did all of this to shame and punish her for not being with him. Women have died because of men like this and it almost killed Meghan too.
@JT you’re right, it comes down to respect. Do the parties involved respect each other and/or what they bring to table. Even if love’s sheen has faded, the structure and foundation of respect should hold. In professional relationships, I don’t need to like the person to work with them. Yes, it makes it easier, but I do have to respect their work ethic, work product, and whatever else of value they bring. It is objective, quantifiable, and nonpartisan. These two lack respect for real work, each other, and themselves.
@Harper. You’ve described the moment in minute detail in terms of where, when and how.
While I am not sure of the why, the results of a you.gov poll conducted in NY, Spain and France indicated that Kate is 5%, more popular than Bill and the Cambridges are more popular than Harry and Meghan. The poll was not reflective at the Sussexes wildly successful trip. Other details include that Prince Charles had 39% in France and the Sussexes topped the others in Spain.
There were no details provided as to the size of the sample (normally below 2,000), the geographical area(s) and the questions that were asked nor who paid for the poll.
Some clues lead to People Magazine, its editor was formerly employed by the Sun. It had two recent covers with the Cambridges of which Kate being centre, as it continued the illusion of Bill’s competence and popularity.
What is revealing in the accompanying article is Bill’s continuing eagerness to be monarch, even though there is no evidence that he is up to the job.
Can it be that the reason he seem keen to leap frog over his Grand-mother and father to be king is so he can somewhat punish his more successful and charismatic brother? The obsession is clear, along with the obvious envy, and need for the familar supply.
Kate being more popular even in You.gov poll (that would have to do with sales of a magazine), will not sit well with Bill.
But then again, he usually ignores her, so there.
Just by being in the royals system, their relationship is toxic. The whole monarchy is toxic, period.
I mean, they haven’t divorced yet. That’s literally the only good thing about their marriage. He married a doormat and she has obliged him by lying wherever she is tossed and not saying a peep when he walks all over her.
she tried peeping about Rose Hanbury, and we saw how that went.
Is it a good strategy to put so much emphasis on how they are the perfect family ? There’s so many ways they can be propped up, putting so much focus on what is actually going wrong seems stupid to me.
I don’t get what the rota and Lacey are getting by siding with the Cambridges, since Harry and Meghan left whst worthy exclusives did they get ? They will never loose access to the Cambridges, the press has the upper hand in the situation. Did his book even sell out ?
It’s crazy because anyone with eyes can see that things are not okay. William isn’t even pretending to treat her with respect in public. He didn’t even look at her at the premiere. That’s not a normal reaction in a happy marriage. I don’t even think Charles was acting like this in public during the end days of their marriage.
Has he ever treated Kate with respect? Not that I recall. Thinking of Jubilee boat parade, him leaving Kate behind with no umbrella. And that was only a year or two in to the marriage. He knows she will stick around no matter what, that’s what she and her grifter family made clear to him way back when.
Its because the perfect family is all they have. It’s why the public excuses their lack of work – “they’re hands on parents” and why their disappearances for several months are okay “they are off with the kids” etc. If they aren’t the perfect family, then what the hell have they been doing for the past 10 years?
… Edward and Sophie have been married since *checks notes* 1999… Cool cool cool revisionist history to favour the heir’s heir.
You’ve only been married a decade Wills, lots if time for things to go wrong.
Lacey ” Sophie who?”
Lol,Sophie and Ed are truly unremarkable.
THey turned out to be stage parents after years of wanting “privacy” for their children. Now Louise is pushed as Princess in the tabs.
Not to mention the queen! Long stable marriage, okay, mostly stable.
I’m kind of sick of Kate’s parents being presented as an ideal for staying married for decades, and all these public declarations reek of desperation. Harry and Meghan rarely talk about their bond — it is self-evident in everything they do.
Granted Andrew and Fergie are technically divorced but from the point of view of finding your perfect partner/birds of a feather, they have absolutely found each other and stuck together.
Fergie and Andrew are using each other IMO. They are co-parents and grandparents but have not been “true” to each other waiting for QE II to give permission for them to remarry. She now goes out to promote books to the tabs and “helps her ex. She gets room and board after she squandered her money ANd Philip did not want her around in his lifetime, now she can hang out at Balmoral.
That’s an excellent point. And even though neither is setting the world on fire, Sophie has always out shined her husband.
In all fairness, I think one single gold sequin from Kate’s dress could outshine Edward
As I have been saying since they got back from vacations, Kate seems relieved and it reads to me as if another contract has been signed and she feels she us secure.
Lacey aside, I still believe Dan Wontons words: Will will not divorce Kate because he respects TQ too much. Meaning- he might divorce Kate after TQ dies.
She did seem more secure around him at the Bond premiere (which is the only time we’ve seen them together since July, right?) than she seemed in Scotland last May/June, but its hard to tell if that’s because there’s a new agreement in place or because she got to take two months off and the press covered for her.
There was another engagement September when I noticed how relaxed and sure of herself she seemed, especially when William has the same sour face as always…
She seemed to be playing to the cameras except with Loving Looks that were not returned by her husband.
Their expressions in the car were very different from the public performance.
I wonder if she’s found herself a discreet lover? If William can do it why can’t she?
@Jaded, somehow I don’t think Kate has it in her, but what a plot twist that would be!
@ModeratelyWealthy I agree with you that she’s definitely seemed more relaxed lately. But if the reason is in fact that a new contract has been signed — which I think is a very distinct possibility — my god, that’s so depressing.
I don’t think Kate is interested in sex except as a tool.
@Merricat – as usual you’re spot on. Her recent “glow” is no doubt due, in large part, to some very good cosmetic procedures, not getting a good shag or two.
Oh, this would be so awesome – please, somebody make it so. Kate doesn’t seem like a particularly sexual creature to me, but neither did Camilla. Maybe it’s because Will is such a human Eeyore, the anti-sexy, that Kate looks like such a stick. But she kept giving Harry the eyeball, and she’s been all coy and hair-twirly around various tennis players. Is there maybe a riding instructor in the vicinity or some earnestly handsome fellow who’s keen on early childhood?
Eurydice, I will stop cracking up every 20 seconds at “human Eeyore” some time next week, hopefully.
Very strong “the lady doth protest too much” energy here.
Oh, lord. This is getting ridiculous now. Is this the bar we’ve reached? Is this how low they will go to try and convince people that everything is totally fine in their marriage? Just one look at the Keens together is enough to convince anybody that they ain’t happy. Like Kaiser perfectly stated, they’ve created their own toxic cycle. And boy, is it toxic.
Just sit back and watch the house of cards topple. The Keens have reached full blown panic mode because they know H&M are out here thriving, both professionally and romantically.
Funny this is coming out at the same time TikTok users are posting clips from the Bond premiere where Incandescent with Rage is completely ignoring Buttons, and Buttons in turn flinches and pulls away when he goes to move her. If this is love, then let me stay single.
On IG the stans are going nuts over this super-doctored clip of them at the Bond premiere….it’s slowed down and heavily edited, as some sort of proof that they are so in love and into each other….granted William is actually looking at her in the clip (for once) and puts out a hand to her back to move her along, but they’re like “oooh look how he’s looking at her, biting his lip and he’s so in love with her and how glamorous she looks!” Sorry but I don’t see it. The clip very abruptly cuts to another angle and it’s fairly obvious it was edited to make it look better than it actually went down.
@Swirlmamad, and every time Harry did all of those exact same things, the reaction was that he was weak and powerless, Meghan was “holding him hostage,” gestures like holding hands were “inappropriate” for royals when they were on official engagements and should be saved for their private time, etc. etc.
That’s the clip where she flinches and moves away. That’s why it suddenly cuts out, I guess.
Lorelei, YES, you are so right! Remember during the wedding when Harry bit his lip, eyes looked a bit misty, and he blushed a bit? It was raised up as the egregious infantilizing of Harry by Meghan, AT THEIR WEDDING. God, these people are utterly clueless about how moronic they look, holding up this dried out husk of a marriage as breaking any kind of cycle.
It definitely is interesting that whenever anyone in the press talks about their marriage, they always emphasise their focus on kids and rarely go into how they are as partners beyond again, “they’re partners in raising their kids and want them happy”. On one hand, I get that (William didn’t have a great and stable childhood and they don’t want that for their kids) but on another hand, it’s interesting.
As others have pointed out on this thread, framing W&K’s marriage as existing primarily for the sake of the children puts a terrible burden on those kids. I would never want to feel that my parents stayed in a miserable marriage on my account.
None of the divorces in this family happened before the couples had each been married for at least 15 years so as the Cambridges are at the 10-year mark, don’t count your chickens is all I’ll say…
EDIT: The Yorks are the exception but don’t count in my mind.
Yikes. The more these two and their band of sycophants insist their marriage is unshakeable, the more they’re setting themselves up for embarrassment and failure.
Mte. I’ve never seen the media build two public figures up like this, but it can’t last forever… can it?
No, Kate has broken the cycle. By being willing to be a door mat. It’s her choice, she made the choice and she “broke the cycle”.
Alexandra a royal princess pre marriage turned a blind eye towards Edward’s mistresses. But she did use passive aggression on him according to her biographers. ANd she was not lazy like Kate.
Jokes!! This is NOT gonna end well!
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
I mean, they’re not divorced, and they seem to have reached an understanding after Kate’s disastrous attempt to cut out Rose Hanbury, but unhappy parents staying married is rarely the “peaceful childhood” that some think it might be.
Agreed. Kids are a lot smarter than people give them credit for. If their marriage is as bad as some say it is, George has probably figured it out and Charlotte may have too (or already be on her way) with Louis not being too far behind in a few years.
Two happy homes may be much better for the kids rather than 1 unhappy home but if the separate lives rumour is true, they probably do have 2 homes. Whether or not it’s happy, I don’t know.
It’s more peaceful for the Royal children than most children in their position because W and K have the money to live separately or live in a property that’s so large they barely see each other. They also have staff to do hand offs if necessary. If William could control his blatant contempt every time they are in public together (you have to wonder what he is like in private if that’s what he considers putting on a good show), he and Kate could give a perfectly adequate public performance of happy families and co-parent like any other separated couple in private.
And moving to Windsor will make those 2 happier homes much more easy to attain and keep under wraps at the same time.
For all their constant talk about giving their children a happy peaceful childhood, they fail to realize that they are modeling a horrible example of marriage to those children. Kids are smart and know when their parents are unhappy or can’t stand one other. William can’t even put on a ‘game face’ with his wife in public, I shudder to think about their dynamic in private.
William is very image conscious and will never divorce Kate. He doesn’t want a repeat of his parents’ relationship. So they mat not be a happily married couple but I think they share the same goal which is to be King and Queen Consort. That can only happen if they remain married.
They’re not demonstrative people but that doesn’t necessarily mean anything. The big crack was during shrug-gate. That was very weird and very telling. Also, William has Harry’s wife to hate on and abuse when he needs to let off steam. It seems weird how he always needs to leak his latest petty move against Meghan to prove how “strong” he is. These two are so basic and boring,
That’s Kate’s goal. She can only be Queen Consort if she is married to William.
For William to be king, all he has to do is outlive his grandmother and his father. Whether he’s married or not, that doesn’t matter.
I don’t like the idea of a monarchy myself but I don’t see it being abolished based on William’s marital status.
Charles paved the way so it was OK to get a divorce and still be in the line of succession. If William falls madly in love he will ditch Kate and remarry. NOt as difficult as in the old days.
Divorce hasn’t been an issue with the line of succession in the last 100+ years. Margaret was divorced, never a question of she or her kids not being in the succession. The only time that was questioned was when she wanted to marry a divorced Catholic (Townsend). She would keep her spot in the line, her royal titles, her housing, expenses, and engagements. But her kids wouldn’t be in the line because her marriage wouldn’t be considered valid by the Church of England.
Anne, Andrew, Peter, Linley/Snowdon, and more that cannot be recalled right now. They’re all divorced, some remarried, and they all remain in the line of succession.
The more they talk about Kate’s stability and middle class origins, the more it sounds like William is unstable and inbred. But maybe it’s just that her “stability” allows her to overlook William’s affairs – in which case, that’s more like the Queen and Philip – so, not breaking a cycle, but another lesson from granny.
Actually, I don’t know what Lacey is talking about – is it a cycle? Or is it the monarchy meddling in the marriages of the RF?
There’s a weird fetishization of Kate’s middle-class origins.
Yes, it’s like they’re talking about breeding horses or dogs. Like they need some sturdy middle class stock to ward off porphyria or something.
Eurydice, I’ve no doubt that that’s EXACTLY the way they talk about it.
It makes sense from a Brexit-disaster POV, though, to fetishize Kate’s middle-class background. I mean, it’s weak, but it might be their attempt to make the normals less resentful of all things royal while they’re waiting in line for gas and bread.
Hasn’t there been talk of Mike having his own side piece? If so, this is Kate’s example as well. The MIDDS put on a *great* show of family unity; if the Lamebridges want to copy something, THAT should be their blueprint.
They may not want to focus on that too much because there have been rumours about Carole and Mike living separately for a while and that he has a girlfriend.
@Nic really?! I hadn’t heard the speculation about Mike having a girlfriend.
But regardless, it’s so blatantly obvious that Carole calls ALL of the shots in their family and he has no choice (short of leaving her) but to just sort of nod and go along with it.
Which is not the healthy family dynamic that Kate seems to think it is. Just from what we’ve seen, the Middletons appear to be in a very unequal partnership, and not the type of marriage people should strive for.
I thought that Mike’s side piece married just married his son.
One look at their body language and you can tell there is no mutual affection left between these two. Kate was desperately trying to get some eye contact with her Burger King during the Bond premiere and he would not have it. I wonder if the pigeon shrug seen round the world pissed him off to the point where he will no longer give her a chance to reject him in public again. I mean, what are the chances TOB did not see the reaction to that moment? He’s a mean, angry fellow and I think he’s punishing Kate by refusing to look at her in public.
He is a real Sulker as well as a shouter. I speak from experience as a people pleaser in previous relationship with a Sulker and I recognise Kate,s over animation as a way to soften up a brick wall. He does not want to be appealed too and due to his higher status and tabloids goons believes he can ignore her in public and still have fan fiction written about their ideal union!
Well, he’s not wrong. So far, he practically ignores her in public and reporters still dutifully write about how stable their marriage is and how in love they are. So, at this point, why would he change?
They did seem like they used to be more affectionate or at least engaged with each other more? I’m trying to remember when it started getting so cold? Was it after sussexit or maybe the tatler article?
Yes Jais I can’t remember when they last looked genuinely happy together? Any body else recall ?
@LadyDigby, I think there were a couple of times they looked genuinely happy in each other’s company back in 2012, during the Olympics when it was held in London?
@Lady Digby, Like Lorelei said, they seemed to get along very well in the early years of their marriage. They visited Canada together for the first time in 2011, and it looked like they were having a lot of fun together then. Go to Google Images and search on “2011 Royal Tour Canada” — the body language and expressions were much noticeably warmer then.
This whole relationship is so sad. I don’t like them at all but what a sad way to live. With someone you don’t even like.
I’ve always found the Kate and William dynamic to be very sad. I understand Kate knew what she was getting into, but it seems like a selling your soul to the devil kind of situation. I can’t imagine any kind of wealth is worth being in a loveless marriage where your husband is encouraged and expected to have mistresses. It just can’t be worth it. Not to mention all of the other toxic messages that are being sent to their children regarding class, race, etc. I wonder if she ever regrets the choices she made.
I hear what you’re saying, and agree to it mostly, but let’s face it. There are multitudes of women (and some men) that think that:
1) “marriage” will change things
2) “I” will change things/him (“He’ll do it for *me*!)
3) I don’t care, at least I’m getting what “I” want out of this
I think Kate started out with 1&2, and is on #3 right now.
JMO ¯_(ツ)_/¯ 😊
@Sigmund, ITA. There aren’t enough tiaras in the world to make up for how miserable she looks to be feeling a lot of the time.
@Lucy2, you’re probably right, and that is so sad to me. Imagine viewing your marriage as a “duty” you needed to perform for your country?
I think so too. I’m sure they look at it as their “duty”, but the whole thing seems miserable to me.
Aren’t the royal family the OG open marriagers? Haven’t they always just “not gotten divorced” and then the men were allowed to have as many mistresses as they wanted? Then, it was Diana who broke THAT cycle, choosing an authentic life. Sounds like William and Kate are just following what every other royal marriage has been for centuries. Yes, and I agree, that Harry is living the life his mother wanted and carrying out her legacy and that’s why the BRF are so crusty.
Honestly, I think the Diana situation was different from most that came before because she not only had to deal with the mistresses, but she ALSO was not getting the bare minimum of public respect that their social circles demand the wife gets.
Charles was openly dissing her at official public events under the guise of ‘jokes’ and having his maitress-en-titre stand in for her as hostess at private events. In short, Charles was not holding up his end of the marriage bargain in public and violating the social norms of their circles…but he’s the Prince of fucking Wales, so he can do whatever he wants to do and she just has to take it and smile.
In that respect, the Cambridges do seem to have fallen into the same sort of marriage that Charles and Diana had, except Kate is a middle class golddigger-to-end-all-golddiggers with apparently no shame and no self-respect so she actually WILL take it and smile FAAAR beyond what any aristocrat would tolerate. I think that’s why no aristo would have William, because they all knew what Charles was like and that William was every inch his father’s son, save the work-ethic, and none of them was willing to put up with that BS. I would imagine it is also possible that the family as a whole is like this, which would explain why so very few UK aristocrats married in in the last 2 generations.
So they’ve decided to try and PR-spin their way out of their very obvious flaws and problems. Much like the Tory government and it’s mounting Brexit issues. I’m sure some people will buy the BS for a while but the dam will eventually break and flood the public.
Oh please, if William was truly image conscious he’d at least try to look like he can stand the sight of his wife in public. It’s off putting to see Kate smiling like a banshee to make it seem as though they’re a happy couple, but William can’t even look her in the eye, while his jaw looks like it’s close to cracking due to his incandescent rage.
I think Kate is effectively a single mother at this point, she keeps the kids, William does whatever he wants with his separate lodgings and they come together to do their abysmal soft power tours that amount to absolutely nothing.
I don’t think this man has ever lost fairly in his life & Harry being happy, successful, in love and independently wealthy is going to drive him to violence…the question is when?
I agree that William can’t care about image that much since he hasn’t made an effort to pretend to look happy around her for a long time.
Right? He’s always been dismissive and disrespectful to her in some way or another, but his demeanor has seriously screamed “over it” for the past year or two. I can’t remember another time when his disdain was SO obvious. You could drive a truck through the gap between him and Kate at the Royal Albert Hall.
Also, I know some folks here think Kate seems happier or at least more secure in her recent outings, but I dunno…something about these latest stories is starting to remind me of the weirdness of this spring. Maybe it’s just a continued freak out over the success of Harry and Meghan’s NY trip, but I’m not sure that’s entirely it?
Harry has 100% broken the cycle, which is why the family is so pissed. Honestly, William and Kate very much seem like they’re continuing the cycle, at least to me. I’d be happy to be wrong, of course. But their marriage appears loveless, and I can only imagine what that’s doing to their children (plus the overall unhealthy environment fostered by the royal dynamic).
Kaiser, it’s funny because while reading Lacey take before I got to yours, I was going to say nope, it’s Harry that has the love of marriage and broken the dysfunctional marriage cycle. I don’t know how anyone can look at kate and william and see anything other than two people staying together because they are hell bent on being king and queen consort. They is zero love between these two. Well she probably thinks her obsession is love but for him , he is actively working on being near her and not barfing.Also didn’t Lacey say in his first book that it was Harry that married for love? Also is William calling the queen and Philip marriage toxic. Lololol.
Broken the cycle because William chose a woman who accepted his 20 years of cheating in exchange for the title and position? As others have written above, too much fake PR shine on a marriage is often followed by divorce.
That photo of her where she’s wearing the red and white dress and William is slightly blurry always makes me sad for her.
I know she’s a terrible person in countless ways, but imo no one deserves to have their spouse treat them the way William always treats her. There are plenty of reasons to legitimately criticize Kate, but she has always, ALWAYS been loyal to William— yet you’d never know it by looking at him. He takes her for granted to the point that he doesn’t even attempt to conceal his disgust for her a lot of the time.
Kate has always been loyal to the title, position, wealth, and status. That’s been clear through their entire relationship, esp with the Manipulating Middletons and their two decades of PR games. Kate would put up with 20+ years of infidelity for any man in exchange for getting the life she stalked since she was 15. She wouldn’t put up with this for Billy the Plumber, William the man has nothing to do with it.
@Nota oh ITA she’d never be with Bill the plumber. Regardless of what her motives are, though, she’s always been loyal in that she’s kept her mouth shut, even during their breakups, and that was probably her main selling point as far as William (and the Firm) was concerned.
Your comment above about how she allegedly buys things for herself and then pretends they were gifts from William (or lets people think they’re gifts, without correcting them) is just so sad to me.
She was a horrible b!tch to Meghan and will never be forgiven for that. But I do still feel sorry for her because I don’t think her life is anything like what she thought it would be when she got married. Pippa and James both seem to be a lot happier.
Kate did go to the media for “help” she apparently alerted them to her weekly clubbing appearances during the breakup in 2007 I recall it was every Thursday night. She would dress up in shorter skirts and be seen with other men. She did not sit back and put up with it, she clearly was waging a media campaign. It was hardly discreet and very obvious IMO. It was like the see through outfit, clearly a media campaign for her. I don’t feel sorry for her at all, she let Meghan take the heat for the “crying story.”
Agreed Tessa. Kate and Middleton have been going to the tabloids for 20 years now. Kate chose to stalk and marry a cheater; cannot have sympathy for her and her choices.
Kate knew Meghan was suicidal as a result of the press attacks she, Will and Carole launched, and still she didn’t let up.
Kate deserves far worse than being trapped in a loveless marriage. She’s a monster. All the sequined dresses in the world won’t change that.
‘While William and Kate’s marriage may not end in divorce, let’s not kid ourselves: the Cambridge marriage is not actually breaking any kind of toxic cycle. Their marriage is its own toxic cycle.’
Wish I could applaud this line, Kaiser. Brilliant.
Something’s broken, all right.
@JT “ She doesn’t make him look good at all, which is what a consort is supposed to do. If it wasn’t for the sycophantic press surrounding her, it would be more apparent to the public. ”
This is very true. The fawning press is Kate’s protector. But still William can’t hide his disdain for his wife. He could barely look at her. It’s as if he’s so repulsed by the sight of her. He’s obviously not proud of her. So much the opposite of his brother toward his wife.
She seemed to be “trying too hard” at the premiere. With the exaggerated grins. ANd staring at the cameras. ANd she knew there would be fawning comments most likely.
I am so weary of this family. They represent the absolute worst of society; racism, classism and greed to name a few. And let’s not forget prince andrew, the alleged rapist and Jeffry Epstein bff. Never forget what he did and will likely get away with.
Pretty bold to criticize the failing Windsor marriages – the queen and Philip were married for the better part of a century, her parents were generally considered a supportive partnership, and Victoria and Albert were famously schmoopy. So when Lacey says “Windsors”, he’s really just criticizing Charles, I guess? Interesting.
Was it Lacey or Wooten that said something like “William and Kate will break the Windsor curse and be together as long as they are both alive”? This has the same feel- unintentionally ominous.
@Jay, well, Anne and Andrew, too. All of her children except Edward (and there’s still time!).
Yes, Anne and Andrew, they are senior royals, but they’re not really the faces of the monarchy, and the reference to Will and Harry’s “broken” childhood makes me think this is a direct swipe at Charles on behalf of his son. Like part of the “case” for William as king is that he is this family man with a connection to the commoners (through Kate).
A man of the people!
I think it was Wootton who said that, and right around their 10 year anniversary too.
A business arrangement for the sake of the Crown and national identity. The government is the slave master and the BM is the overseer.
William and Kate will divorce when one of two things happen: 1). When the Queen dies and Charles ascends the throne, or, 2). Charles dies before he ascends the throne.
William knows that he can divorce his wife as things stand, but once he’s King, he could never divorce the Queen. When he’s next in line, instead of next behind his dad, they’ll divorce.
Sadly we’re in the 21st Century, with a young married couple (under 40) pretending to be in love for the sake of public image and a position that may not happen for another decade if not two.
According to the photos from the movie premiere that I saw, William behaved like the “other woman” was in the room, and he didn’t want her to feel uncomfortable. There is someone else in his life.
I think Wills has utter contempt for his wife. The body language says everything. Lots of couples have personal problems but manage to act friendly and normal in public. He can’t even be civil to her.
I think Kate and her family leaked the Rose stuff and he wants to be rid of her because she didn’t play by the rules and he can’t do what he wants.
Interesting why the body language experts are not harnessed by the UK press to dissect the body language of their favorite future king and queen consort. UK press knows the truth about this fake marriage but wouldn’t dare write it. Not because they love these two dorks but because they have an invisible contract to romanticize them and make the Sussexes look like a failure.
“He’ll do anything to avoid divorce”
…..except actually be a good husband? 🤔
I think between the Queen and Prince Phillip there was at the start real love and affection which transitioned to respect and affection.
Cheating aside they seemed for the most part to enjoy each other’s company and you see it in pictures of them together. They may be a picture or two out there of one looking a little annoyed at the other, but with William, he’s oozing contempt. I can imagine in private him making comments which would chip away at whatever self esteem Kate has left. If that’s what’s going on there will be a breaking point for her. Why would she think this person would be monogamous once married when he wasn’t while they were dating. How can she reconcile spending her whole life trying to please someone’s who will never be pleased.
A man who loves you doesn’t keep you waiting for 10 years, banging all his aristo friends along the way while you pretend to have substance by faking a job and doing “show him what he’s missing” pap strolls. That what has the Keen stans so enraged re: Harry and Meghan. They are witnessing true love and passion in action the bubble has been burst re: their own lackluster relationships. The same is probably true in William and Kate. A relationship where both people are truly in love Will enrage fakers close enough to witness.
Lacey might have just jinxed the Cambridge marriage.
The British media keeps talking and harping about Kate’s evening gown. But they deliberately shut their eyes to the biggest story of the evening: William ignored his wife despite and in spite of how she looked that night.
He looked as if he hated everything about her and no amount of beauty and glamour can change his mind. Not even for appearance’s sake. This marriage is fake and is in shambles.
Not getting divorced is no indication of a happy marriage. What’s next, high praise for wearing blue so consistently?
I always thought that William would never divorce Kate because it would destroy his ‘normal Bill’ cosplay, but my mind has been changed.
William shouldn’t divorce Kate. That is what the palaces and the Middletons are trying to ensure, that the Cambridges remain married for appearance’s sake. Instead of embiggening William and Kate separately, now they are embiggening their marriage.
However, when William is consumed with jealousy he doesn’t stop to consider the bigger picture – he does what he wants. It was William’s jealousy that ran off Harry & Meghan. The Sussex exit was a huge blow to the monarchy. Harry and Meghan were wildly popular with young people, the very people that William needs if he is going to ever be a successful monarch.
Now, William is again consumed with jealousy, he is in England watching Harry and Harry’s wife meeting with Politicians, World Leaders, going to the UN, holding events with the WHO, and then he looks at Kate . . .
The same Kate that fumbled the joint event with Jill Biden, the same Kate that can’t give a speech after 10 years, and all he sees when he looks at her is how Harry is winning. Harry has the better wife, Harry’s wife is charismatic.
William is so disgusted by Kate now, he isn’t even bothering to dial it in. He doesn’t look at her, he barely tolerates her, and even though it will destroy the myth of ‘normal Bill’ he is willing to do whatever it takes to win against Harry.
The separation, divorce isn’t coming from a place of reason, logic, future planning. It is coming from a place of jealousy, ego, and id. William is LITERALLY all in his feelings.
The more visible Harry & Meghan are, the more likely it is that William ditches Kate. I truly thought he would ditch Kate within 18 months, but seeing his reaction to the Sussex NY Working visit – it may be much sooner than that.
Perilous times ahead for House Middleton, bc should William decide that it is time for Kate to go, the press will be firmly on his side.
The only part of the article that seems to jive is that William is image conscious, he will want to mirror his grandmother’s union rather then the disastrous outcome that was his parents marriage. William and Kate will not divorce but they will at some point live separate lives.
They don’t even live together. He doesn’t even look at her anymore. She just looks at him.
Wishing doesn’t make so, saltmongers. I love the photo where Bill is casting his eyes heavenward in long-suffering disdain.
Re: Isla De Saltines, since some people seem to be taking issue with the ‘saltines’ thing may I nominate as an alternative La Isla De Saladitos? Because the people at issue are wizened, crusty, salty, bitter prunes.
Also saladitos are Mexican, and few things would annoy a British aristocrat OR their Brexiteer supporters and American MAGA supporters quite as much as being compared to something foreign, especially something from Mexico. I can’t find any other unpleasantly bitter and salty items from any other country that both the UK and the US tend to look down on/hate/would be offended to be compared to.
I like saltines. They’re great for an upset stomach. The anti-Meghan brigade have the opposite effect. 🤮
Kate is the perfect wife for William, because she always plays the part of the exquisitely-dressed, hand-shaking, ribbon-cutting figurehead, and she will never leave him no matter how broken the marriage is behind the scenes.
So: Not wrong, but also not right. The marriage is broken, but it’s not going to end.