In yesterday’s story about the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge’s appearance at the Keenshot Awards, I noted that Prince William said that next year’s awards ceremony would be held in America. That was one of his big announcements at the event. I said that Will and Kate were being “super-obvious” and then I wrote this: “Those salty people have been rabidly anti-American about all things Harry and Meghan, and then wait a minute, they need American donors, American financing, American tourism, American media and American interest in their lil’ white supremacist family, whoops!” It’s all true. The British royal family isn’t *just* committed to selling their racist fairytale to British people and Commonwealth countries. They need the support from America, American wealth, and American media. Well, in case you needed that point underlined, here’s a little excerpt from Vanity Fair’s coverage, co-written by Katie Nicholl:
William also announced Sunday that next year’s Earthshot Awards ceremony will take place in the United States. According to a source close to the couple, Kate and William are setting their sights across the pond. “Team Cambridge is very focused on America and making sure they have a high profile over there,” the source said. “The possibility of them making a high profile visit is very much on the cards for next year.”
The source added that William, Kate, and their staff were sensitive to the aftereffects of Meghan Markle and Prince Harry’s March interview with Oprah. “[They] are aware that their popularity took a bit of a dive post the Oprah interview, and that the focus now is on getting that support back. America is a very important audience for them.”
These short-sighted dumbf–ks should have thought about that before they orchestrated one of the most racist character assassinations I’ve ever seen in my life. The smear campaign against Meghan was largely spearheaded by William and Kate, because (again) they were and are jealous, petty, lazy, small-minded and short-sighted. If the American market was so important to them, they shouldn’t have behaved the way they did for YEARS.
It’s also kind of funny to think that the Cambridges are going to really push themselves forward to American audiences and presumably American media. The American media won’t play the same moronic games as the British media. Meghan and Harry’s presence in Montecito changes the way all of this will be handled in American media markets too.
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Competitive much – the Keens really are the most petty jealous idiots, they cannot stand that the Sussex’s are popular in the US and want to destroy that. News flash – the Keens don’t have what it takes to win over the US media esp with the way that they and the BM treated one of their own.
I hope the US rags spill the Cambridge tea!
Lazy entitled and absolutely useless pair. Their latest vanity project award show had 2million less viewers for an equivalent programming slot for that time of the day. If they can’t capture a passive UK audience or even be bothered about their commonwealth audience, how can they hope to capture a clued up don’t give a f**ck about royalty American audience?. More cosplaying? More hyena grins? More “loving looks” or will they continue to heap more dirt on the Sussexes? Petty is not a great colour to wear.
It amazes me that the BBC used some of their public funding to promote W in such an obsequiosly showy way. I guess this is how they compensate him for the Bashir interview. It’s nice though that W hasn’t spent a pence of his own money on HIS Egoshot award.
I’ve been wondering about the ratings in the UK for the Earthshot Prize hootenanny, or whatever it was called. Have they been reported anywhere? Was it really a dud (as I strongly suspect it was, given the lack of news coverage)?
Appears it didn’t break the top 50 for the week.
@Booboocita: motion to refer to all Cambridge engagements as “hootenannies” going forward
LOL, seconded!
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I’ll be here patiently waiting for the American media to drop a dime on Willileaks. We won’t be as coddling and protective of the little prince over here.
Remember when Andrea Mitchell asked Kate if she had met Lilibet yet? Yeah Andrea Mitchell is veteran enough not to give a f*** about kowtowing to some princess when there are questions to be asked. 10 Katie Courics are not worth one Andrea Mitchell and let’s have her ask about Prince Andrew next.
How does a future King of England/UK set his sights on a country that literally fought a war to end the tyranny of his ancestors. This make ZERO sense. William should be focused on the UK and The Commonwealth of Nations. Here is what William doesn’t understand. It is because of Meghan, Archie and Lili, Harry can take any stage in the USA. It is his wife’s and children’s citizenship in this country that gives Harry the privilege to express his views in the USA. William has NO such privilege. William coming to the USA telling the American People how they should focus on climate or how Americans should spend their money will FAIL. Americans will not be lectured to or by a future King of England….just watch and see. Thus begins the rapid decline of the British Royal Family on the world stage. If I had to give William advice I would simply say…..”Let it go. Focus on your role and how you can make that role better. You can’t beat Meghan/Harry trying to be Meghan/Harry 2.0. Be who you are. Yes your life will be boring but what did you expect as the Future King of the UK. Just take a look at your grandmother and father….yes that is your future”
Yes, Americans really love being lectured by the future King of Britain after his family told everyone they didn’t dislike Meghan because she was biracial, it was because she was AMERICAN. That them being ANTI-AMERICAN was the reason why they hated her.
I agree completely, but wealthy Americans keep writing big checks to the Prince’s Trust and whatever else will get them an invitation to a reception or lawn party.
@Goofpuff, there have been so many times online that I’ve seen the reason people give for hating Meghan but praising Kate because Kate “never lectures them about anything.”
I beg to differ; have they listened to her opining about the “right” type of childhood she thinks every child needs to have if their parents want them to grow up to be problem-free? Sounds like lecturing to me.
Idk if this applies only to the women in the BRF, but if Elegant Will is smart (he’s not), he would tread lightly here
ETA: Isn’t the stated purpose of the BRF — literally their reason for existing — to “bring attention” to various causes? But then when they do, they’re “lecturing?” Make it make sense
They need to stay in their lane, which is the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth. Once they have a really high profile there — especially in the Commonwealth — then they can worry about the rest of the world.
This drives me nuts. Harry and Meghan are out. There’s no need to compete with them; it’s apples and crabapples at this point.
I would also say to people saying the keens should stick to the Commonwealth, that the Commonwealth is largely made up of nations that are majority black and brown people so not a hot look when you racist your only non-white family members out the door. Basically, I don’t think they have a great audience anywhere outside of England.
Wow, is the original bluhare? Glad to see you posting again.
How do the Brit’s and commonwealth people feel about funding a Prince and earth shot prize money for a show filmed in the USA? I mean Canada, India, Australia have great production companies and large populations just to name a few.
As a Brit and Canadian, I’ve mixed feelings re your question. On the one hand, it’s insulting they choose a non-Commonwealth country that didn’t want the royals. But on the other hand, as an ex-Royal fan (love Harry and Meghan) I don’t give a rat’s … what they do.
Seriously! I can’t put this any less mean to Will & Waity- we hate you.
You bullied one of our own nearly to the point of suicide, then striped her dual-National American children of protection against unwell stalkers out of spite, and disrespected the 2 most real and earnest royals in modern history in Harry now and his mother before him, with the way William talks so awfully about her now.
We have a royal family here and they’re ours! It’s Di, Harry, Meghan, Doria, Archie, and Lilly! And y’all 2 conservative twits suck and we don’t want you.
Hit the bricks you racist Imperialistic wankers.
Good luck with that.
I honestly really hope they do. They are in for a RUDE awakening the day they set foot over here. Who knows though, they pay for bots on Instagram and the mail, so maybe they’ll pay for fake fans to greet them in the US. Still won’t be enough.
@Pink Flamingo … Well, the Sussexes are supposedly setting up a rival Court in America (because they’re so popular here) so the Keens can’t just be satisfied to pound them in England, they have to attempt a media pounding of the Sussexes in America as well.
I just don’t get it. If the Sussexes are so insignificant and flawed, why all the paranoia from the Keens and the British media? Why the constant campaign to belittle and discredit them? Sad.
“A rival court in America”
WTAF are these people talking about?! This is not a thing!
I guess they don’t want to admit outright how popular the Sussexes are in the US, and how much of a problem this is for them, so they use these asinine phrases to tiptoe around the obvious.
Re: @Eurydice’s comment below, “they think they’ve made it through Meghan” — “think” is the key phrase here. It isn’t 1943 and they don’t control the narrative the way they used to and I don’t know if that has fully sunken in yet. And looking at the immediate future— Ghislaine’s trial, Harry’s book, ANOTHER season of The Crown eviscerating Charles, the possibility of “Queen Camilla” — they still have a ton of hurdles ahead and it’s going to be a bumpy road for them for a very long time.
I doubt Americans will ever view the BRF the way we once used to. The bloom is off the rose. Seems like it’s taking a long time for them to realize it.
Good luck with that. It’s going to be much harder to make waves in the US. This barely gained traction in the UK. There is also something so juvenile about this “pursuing the US” nonsense. Isn’t there an entire Commonwealth coming apart at the seams that they should be focusing on?
Agree. I also don’t understand to what ends. Why America? How does the United States shore up the monarchy? Shouldn’t they be focusing on the Commonwealth who don’t want them as future King and Queen?
The only way this makes any sense to me is from a political standpoint. After Brexit, the UK needs to ally itself in some other ways. This could be an offshoot of the recent security pact with the US and Australia. Not that W&K can do any better job than they did in Scotland, but they are the UK’s premiere combo of celebrity and royalty. It could be another “charm offensive” – this time with Kate cosplaying Annie Oakley – cowboy hat, fringed skirt and shooting at bullseyes.
If this is about Brexit and America’s help they had the 2 stars. Harry had personal and professional relationships established with top tier American politicians. And Meghan is American and very well liked. And they forced them out in a racist hate campaign after also putting their lives in danger and onto us to not speak out about racism. They let the tabloids smear America like we’re some awful world of trash.
William really is so short sighted.
@NCDancer … Why America? Because Harry and Meghan are popular here and the British media have been pushing the narrative that the Sussexes are attempting to set up a rival Court. And the Royal family can’t have that.
I believe that the Keens (William, especially) are annoyed by Harry and Meghan’s popularity in America and they’re attempting to (once again) put them in their place. It seems extremely petty to me, but then again, they are.
@Wigletwatcher – the entire RF is short-sighted. In human minds, the monarchy has lasted forever – why think short-term when the road ahead has no end? Sure, there are bumps here and there, but when the Queen dies there will be Charles, and when Charles dies, there will be William, and then George, and, and, and. Above all else, the RF has been bred to think that even their own members aren’t as important as an infinite monarchy. They made it through Edward, they made it through Diana, they think they made it through Meghan, they think they’ll get through Andrew, and who knows maybe they will. But it’s surely remarkable that Harry was able to get away.
Yep. If he is born to be king and god made him superior to the rest of us peasants maybe he should put his efforts into getting his own house in order rather than trying to be an international celebrity.
The stench of desperation is putting me off my lunch.
Think about it: Who goes from country to country to announce a winner for an Award. It’s completely ridiculous. William truly underestimates his popularity. I don’t know of any individual from another country that feels they can walk into the USA and is owed a national platform. That the American People should roll out the red carpet carpet to him because he is the future King of England….I mean have they really thought this through? Do they understand that William represents something completely different than Harry? Disaster in the making.
@MMadison, this comment should be required reading for the Cambridges and their entire staff. Truly, you nailed it. I doubt that any part of what you said has ever crossed William’s mind.
They’re coming across as WILDLY deluded. At this point, even I’m getting secondhand embarrassment for W&K.
Agreed, 100%.
Diana is still beloved here (we didn’t fall for the rewriting of her history), the Queen isn’t all that popular, The Crown Season 5 will be out next year & of course there’s Andrew, who’s only going to be under more scrutiny with Ghislaine’s trial & Virgina’s lawsuit. It would be best for Mumbles & Egg to stay over there and soak up their supposed popularity.
“Mumbles and Egg.” 🤣🤣🤣
Ugh! I’m really not looking forward to the full year of speculation from the RR wondering if Harry and Meghan will be there and then the flurry of King William shuns H&M/How dare they not support the FFK&Q?!? Also the Keenbridges may want to reconsider this high-profile tour once H’s memoir comes out…
You know the funniest thing? If H&M wanted to be petty and knock W&K right off this little “glamorous” pedestal they’ve got themselves on lately, they could do it in an instant. All they’d have to do is release one photo of pretty much anything, and it would push the Keens right off the pages. They don’t need to do that because H&M are simply living their lives, but it’s hilarious to me that they could if they wanted to. W&K have not grasped what they are up against.
Denial and superiority complexes are a helluva drug…
You’re so right! Even if H&M don’t do a single thing (and they probably won’t because they’re booked and busy) their shadow is gonna loom over this entire trip and Burger King and his wife won’t have a single headline that doesn’t also mention H&M. I’m cackling at the thought!
Right now all H&M would have to do is be photographed on the beach or be photographed going to lunch at an exclusive restaurant. Even one far away picture would be enough to put them on the front page of every paper in the UK.
(except as we learned last week, the paps are staying away from them because they don’t want the litigation expense, so the picture would have to be authorized, and H&M don’t play the game, so I’m not saying it will happen. But I’m saying it would be just that easy to take over the headlines.)
@Becks1, could you imagine if they were papped and Lili or Archie was with them? It would likely never happen, but if it did? The BM’s heads would explode and the papers would be wall to wall Sussex news.
Exactly 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼.. @L84Tea
ONE pic, in b/w, taken of the *back* of the kids: Archie in the Chick Inn, with Lili sitting on the ground watching… and BOOM! The world explodes and Keens are knocked off the pages for DAYS.
It’s such a Karen move to presume that they are wanted here. Americans love Harry because many of us loved his mom, and he is most like his mom. And he married a self made American to boot. William and Kate aren’t like Diana.
The thing is, they do have an audience of racists in the US. Look at the crap daddy Markle spits out. Someone is buying the National Enquirer.
If Meghan wanted to, she could have dropped a photo of one of Lilibet’s toes and it would have knocked William and Kate off of every single front page. Luckily for them, Meghan is not as petty as I am 🙃
@L84Tea, They could easily be petty-sometimes I wish they were. It’s not who Harry & Meghan are. The other two on the other hand.
@Lorelei, hahaha, After all the f*ckery the Cambridges have pulled, my petty self would be announcing, if I were H & M (who are much nicer than me), that I’m fully supporting the Goldman Environmental Prize and believe in the long history and work they’ve done.
I actually think they want to leach off of the memoir for more interest when they come. They usually do that anyways when Harry or Meghan announce something.
But they’ll come, get their few days in the media, then go back home. Then what? Constant articles on people magazine praising them for being future kings in waiting? Lol okay.
If they also do this around this time next year. We have US midterms. Sooo a lot bigger fish to fry.
Will looks like he’s serving Hugh Hefner cosplay… where’s his bubble pipe? Are they going after the same market our former president appealed to?
“Bubble pipe”! *snicker*
Is he allowed to use a bubble pipe without a minimum of 4 spotters?
Don’t forget protective goggles in case a bubble pops near his eyes!!!!
I’m just imagining them having their awards show and a bunch of MAGAs with Trump flags showing up to support them and cheer for them, but then the Cambridges have all those people escorted away (like how the Queen didn’t enjoy her picture being on the MAGA bus(??—something like that)) and then the MAGAs will instantly turn on them and hate them. Will and Kate want to get the Democrats and the liberals, the cool Hollywood types, the Kamala Harris types to come out and support them and their climate change awards show thing, but those people won’t want to pick the Cambridges over the Sussexes. And the people who will pick the Cambridges over the Sussexes are people that the cambs would be embarrassed to have on their side. They went way out of their way to not be photographed with the Trumps. It’s going to be a disaster. Fox News will likely want to follow them around and have them on, but they won’t want William to talk about climate change and environmentalism, and William probably wouldn’t even want to be on Fox News. They’ll be mostly ignored I think. There will be some morning show coverage about what Kate wore, but even then the hosts of the morning shows do their little chit chat around the stories and they *will* mention Meghan and Harry and the Oprah interview and the feud.
I wonder if this is somewhat part of the silent contract: the British royal press is desperate to break into america and keeps getting shot down, but will and Kate will bring them along because they work with the rota, and then the rota will be the go-to commentators that shows like Today will have on to talk about the Cambridge tour.
I also feel like they would bring the kids to soften the blows of criticism. People won’t protest them and yell things at them about how racist and mean they are if their kids are there. Reporters won’t ask the harder hitting questions if the kids are there. MAGAs might even be less upset if they’re told to move along because they “want to keep things unpolitical in front of the children.” Shots of the Cambridge family at Disney World, little George wearing the Harry Potter sorting hat at Universal Studios….? Maybe. Then that also gives the morning shows and the general tabloid news something that is 200x more interesting and cuter to talk about and commentate on.
They can take the kids to euro Disney or Gardaland.. I do not have as much faith in people holding their tongues even if the children are present. Not when the Sussex’s babies have been fair game. Best if they host their projects elsewhere.
“… but will and Kate will bring them along because they work with the rota, and then the rota will be the go-to commentators that shows like Today will have on to talk about the Cambridge tour.”
Yep. Sounds like what they think is the smart play here.
This all makes sense and sounds plausible but if ES is happening in the U.S. a year from now won’t the U.S. be like right in the middle of midterms?? Sounds like if this tour even happens it’ll be forgotten.
@amytoo yes, I was JUST thinking that their fan base overlaps (more like perfectly eclipses) the Trump MAGA base and how embarrassing it will be for them to send out invites/feelers and get rejected at every turn.
It will also be SO telling who is willing to have a photo-op w the Keens! In the past, Reese Witherspoon had expressed great admiration for Khate, and Taylor Swift is tight w Ed Sheeran/attended several Cambridge-sponsored events in England. And of course Leo DiCaprio is renowned for his environmental causes so if the Keenbridges can even get one out of those three to attend, I would eat my fugly fascinator.
Other guesses? Biden and Dr Jill will probably have to make an appearance for diplomatic purposes. Otherwise, Hollywood celebs…attend at your own risk!
Yep, they aren’t going after the same audiences that H&M have. They are going to appeal to the MAGA racists who were pissed that a biracial woman joined the royal family. They will love rubbing shoulders with the pretty white princess.
Fox News will be jumping to show how these two uphold traditional values.
I thought he looked like a human Brocoli. That color looks unappealing to him and the fitting terrible.
This is one story that I don’t really believe – I think they are perfectly happy on their tiny little island where (in their minds) people fawn over them, and (again, in their minds) they are the center of the world.
Do you really think the UK fawn over those two? From the pics I have seen from the awards show, no one showed up. They had all of these barriers and no fans. It looked incredibly sad. No one cares. If the UK doesn’t care about these two then the US definitely won’t. Especially since they have been pushing anti America since Meghan joined the family. The US isn’t fooled by those two.
That would be a sad, sad commentary on his whole “legacy endeavor” because he had other celebrities that have fans that would have loved to be by those barriers, like Shakira, for example. That earth thing really fell flat didn’t it?
I don’t think the UK does, I think maybe that’s what the parentheses are for.
Yes – big fish, little pond.
If W&K were perfectly content on their little island?
– they wouldn’t have pulled the stunt trip to Hollywood with the madeup BAFTA event on their first tour
– there wouldn’t have been a William stunt charity polo match in California, which was so shady the guy handling the USA funds was ousted
– they wouldn’t have pulled the stunt trip to NYC complete with staged Beyonce and JayZ meet centre court
– William wouldn’t have announced the next handoff of his struggle prize would be in the USA
That’s their usual baseline discontent. If they really cared, they’d put some real work into it. We say that W&K are lazy, but they can get things done if they want it enough. They worked really hard to get rid of H&M.
Yep, they did work really hard to get rid of Meghan.
Let them try. The Queen was recently booed in Scotland. I would love to hear the thunderous booing crowd in New York City or Los Angeles for Baldimort and Karen of Middleton.
Yeah, I don’t think so. I won’t speak for all Americans, but this American wants no part of a duo who has consistently pushed an anti-American narrative the last 2 plus years. They’re in for a very rude awakening if they think the US is going to fall for their phony bullshit. The US media will never give these two bottom dwellers the adoration they believe they deserve. William really disgusts me on another level. First he pushes his brother out but now wants to hone in on his brother’s territory. It’s the bunny rabbit clip all over again.
+1
That’s some magical thinking they have going on here, to think that non-Trumpian Americans want anything to do with the likes of their racist, anti-American worldview.
Lol. If you live in an echo chamber, you think the five people and 10,000 bots who claim you’re perfect are the whole world. Come and find out.
The issue is that there are plenty of Trumpian Americans who I bet would clamor for this. They were willing to overlook the Russians interfering with our election, they will overlook a few anti-American things the royals unofficially said.
You stated it with much nicer language than I could 👏🏼💐
Wasn’t that the go to excuse when they didn’t want to be accused of racism? That Meghan was “too American”? Why court Americans now after that clear dismissal?
This American agrees with you 100%. We barely gave a damn the two previous times that they came over here on their tours, and those were back when they were supposedly still in their “cutesy” prime. Overall they come across as bland, lazy, uninspiring and transparently inauthentic people, which is bad enough before you even begin to factor in everything they did to Meghan…..but now on top of all of that, they’ve participated in orchestrating the biggest and most vile racist smear campaign that I’ve ever seen in my lifetime against one of our own, drove her to the point of suicidal ideation while pregnant before literally hounding her out of their country, continue to use their media to try to harass her in her own homeland, and have made VERY clear that they had a big problem with Meghan being an American, and that they look down on Americans in general. All of that, and now they dare think that they can waltz over here and mumble some bs about being keen for the climate, and expect the American public to now buy what they’re selling?? Who the hell do they think they are? Actually, the better question is, who the hell do they think WE are?
I’m not worthy!! Yes to all of this!!
In my personal opinion, I think this is mostly William. I believe deep down Kate would be content sitting back and coasting by in the UK, spending her days avoiding work, shopping, working out, getting her hair done, and not much else. I think it’s William who has this MUST DEFEAT attitude and wants to conquer the US with his keenery.
Eventually, the more they court exposure the more they’ll open themselves up for scrutiny. The pair are largely beyond reproach rn, especially K, but these very heavy handed attempts to garner PR in larger markets like the US might backfire at some point. No one gets unmitigated praise and adoration forever.
And you’re making points here. The BM’s survival really is dependent on them fading in the background and not rocking the boat or else people will start to wonder what exactly they’re paying these people to do. W&K’s desperation for more PR is gonna invite a lot of scrutiny they can’t actually handle. Oh well. They wanted the spotlight pretty soon it’s gonna feel like an interrogation lamp.
Oh goody, I’m right here with my popcorn waiting for that!!
I mean…. are they really just confirming the obvious that Will and Kate are desperately competing and totally engaging in the drama and oneupmanship? I thought they were pretending to be above all that? This ‘looking to have a big profile over there’ sounds suspiciously ‘hollywood celebrity’ of them which we all know if SO UNROYAL no?
Right. The media is oversaturated with Will & Kate and their nothingness. The media is doing a great job Z listing them. Especially since a W & K articles don’t get much attention unless Harry or Meghan’s names are mentioned.
But what about the Commonwealth? When the queen passes I believe that the Commonwealth will start coming apart at the seams and if the FFK and FFQ don’t start paying attention they will only have a small salty isle to reign over.
They have no business setting their sites on America. It’s not in the Commonwealth.
Am I right in thinking that William & Kate have never done a royal tour in the Caribbean and Africa? . You’d think that would be priority with Barbados dropping Betty as head of state & other Caribbean countries suggesting they may follow rather than USA. And shouldn’t KP be focusing on U.K. generally with all the mess with Brexit & covid? The royal family really could have played a unifying role after Brexit & the toxic climate after the campaign. And even with covid the papers like the Mail are going after doctors & nurses right now & the royal family should be uplifting them. This is where all those thank you calls etc could be helpful as the morale is probably low & they should be empathising how important key workers are etc. but they have flopped
I know the Cornwalls & Wessexes tend to travel to Africa & Caribbean but wonder if knowing they can’t send Harry anymore as a younger royal who was able to charm even republican politicians also caused consternation with Sussexit. Oh well I’m happy for the dominos to fall.
It would be hard to go to South Africa after Meghan and Harry–Meghan introduced herself as a “member of the royal family and a woman of color.” It would be really awkward for the Cambridges to show up after the woman of color is no longer a member of the royal family. It would be definitely noted. The headlines write themselves at this point. There’s no avoiding that kind of talk, which would be embarrassing. I think that would happen anywhere on the continent where the Cambridges might show up.
And then there are those pictures of the Cambridges being carried on chairs by black people–yes that’s the Solomon islands and not Africa, but those pictures have aged really poorly. They need to stick to the white commonwealth countries for any tours. But I don’t think any commonwealth country is going to want to pay for a royal tour anytime soon. Maybe big royal tours will become a thing of the past.
I just watched a great episode of “explained” on Netflix, on Royalty (around the world).Only 25 minutes but well worth it. I especially liked that it was bookended in the beginning and end with 2 academics from Jamaica speaking about how ridiculous it is for them to still be part of the British Commonwealth. Loved to hear the truth from their mouths, I hope a lot of people see that episode.
lanne, those pictures aged especially poorly considering that when Charles visited the Solomon Islands, he was smart enough to politely turn down being carried and walked instead. So the elderly dude has enough sense to know it would be a bad look, but that didn’t occur to the young, allegedly “with it” royal couple?
There’s no super-celebrity, googobs of money, or Netflix deals to be had in the Commonwealth. 😉
And that’s exactly why! They can say how important the Commonwealth is to them but at the end of the day it all comes down to money and popularity.
I was going to say exactly that. They need to sure up their support with the Commonwealth given nations are looking to exit stage left.
The Commonwealth may remain without further interference from the Windsors. It is an economic and trade union of 54 countries. Only 16 have the UK monarch as figurehead head of state, one of which is dumping them any day now and becoming a Republic. The last vestiges of the colonial empire will end once QEII passes. Charles is the figurehead ‘elected’ head now, but they can vote tomorrow to remove him.
So the reason Diana was such a huge hit over here was because she was glamorous and gorgeous, yes, but also because she connected with people and she connected with causes and we loved that. William and Kate don’t do that (and the glamorous part leaves something to be desired.)
You can’t have a “huge presence” in the US just by declaring it so, just by going on a few royal tours (I think their tours here are kind of weird anyway, we’re not a commonwealth country, I get why the Queen would come here as the head of state, or even Charles, but why do we need the FFK and FFQC to come here?)
And their bigger issue is that everything they do now in the US is going to be overshadowed by H&M. They visit a school? Yeah H&M visited a school and donated necessary items to said school. They visit a hospital? H&M donated a hospital wing – please see the Archewell Center for Babies. They attended a sporting event? H&M attended and had the team make the night “Diaper night” and attendees were asked to bring much needed items for diaper banks. etc .
(obviously the last two haven’t happened yet, I’m just spitballing.)
The bigger problem with H&M isn’t the Oprah interview, its that they show how useless royals like W&K are, and that’s something that they can’t overcome with a “green carpet” and a royal tour. And that uselessness means that they are a lot less interesting to Americans. We like the royals who work and earn their own money .
Becks: Part of Diana’s popularity in the US was also due to Charles and family poor treatment of her.
And that is something that would play in H&M’s favor, so to speak……not W&K’s.
yes Amy Bee, very true. America LOVES to help those hurt by BRF – kinda makes sense since we did revolt against the crown ourselves.
Becks: Diana came to the USA focused on charities. William is coming to USA focused on a climate prize. Climate is a political issue in the USA. Like it or not it is. So the question is: Why is a future King of England traveling to the USA with an agenda that some within the USA would see as political. I said this on another post. The thing that makes The Queen an asset to the British Government is that they can leverage the pomp/pageantry of the RF with foreign leaders. If William is seeing as political in the USA do you really believe a POTUS would want to be seen with William if they knew it would have political consequences back in the USA? The Royal Family should think about what William is doing here. It is not Meghan/Harry or the pedo Andrew that will be the downfall of the RF it will be William and Williams PRIDE and need for revenge.
Right, I know she came here focused on charities, that’s literally why I said “she connected with causes and she connected with people.”
I agree though about climate change being so political here in the US. It makes William a political figure and its going to be divisive. If we assume that the biggest Cambridge fans here in the US are probably right-leaning, Fox News watching, MAGA types – how are they going to feel about “their prince” being the face of action against climate change?* About William “lecturing” others on carbon footprints and travel and how their actions affect the environment?
And that’s ignoring the other issues like: How’s he going to get here? How’s he going to get around while here? How large an entourage is he going to have with him? These questions are all going to be front and center and the US press will ask them.
(I don’t think he’s actually the face of it, but just for argument’s sake lets pretend.)
Very good point.. he got backlash for criticism already.. I doubt JB will be donating next years prize money.
Becks: Sorry I was agreeing with you on Diana. I was making an attempt to contrast that to what William’s stated purpose was for coming to the USA which is his Earthshot prize. As far as Fox is concerned the minute William started speaking about Climate they stop covering him and stopped covering Meghan/Harry. The RF really doesn’t t fit in well with the MAGA agenda. These folks are all about “America First” and “Anti vax this and that”. The only thing they have in common with William is that he hates the WOC. However, William stance on Climate and shaming the wealthy well lets just say the WOC issue falls a distanced 3rd. Murdoch is really pushing the RF on his FOX viewers. They really don’t give a rat ass about William. They are more concerned with worshiping Trump and making sure that FOX worships Trump. I don’t think the RF understands that Meghan has the birthright in the USA to speak on issues not William. There is not a single soul in this country that will tell an American citizen that the future King of England can have his say but she can’t….it doesn’t work like that not even with the MAGA crowd.
@MMadison – gotcha. I feel like I’m having reading comprehension issues on this site lately lol.
but yes, for william and the US, he’s kind of backed himself into a corner. The liberals don’t want a whole lot to do with him – they might make an appearance with him but the days of celebs fawning over him because he’s Prince William are over. The Americans who LOVE the royal family probably dont’ want them especially political, they like the queen because she’s just the sweet old grandmother (in their eyes), so william “lecturing” about climate change from his palaces and with his millions and future billions is not going to go over well.
Time will tell, maybe we’ll be wrong, but I think its going to be a tougher road than the Cambridges think.
@Becks: Once it becomes political it becomes very difficult for William. Liberals will side with Meghan. WOC is a huge voting block even Biden stated it was AA’s that put him in the WH. I don’t understand why the RF is taking this stance with the USA. Why are they trying to make is as if the USA will choose the Cambridges over the Sussex’s? I don’t get it and I don’t think they realize the HUGE risk they are taking. Whom ever they are speaking or is advising them about the USA they need to fire them. The British Royal Family sending William to attack an American WOC on USA soil…..WTF!…..meanwhile they refuse to send Andrew for questioning by the FBI.
AIDS was seen (and sometimes still is seen) as a political issue, so I’m not sure I 100% agree with you. But the fact that William is advocating for something more than general kindness is going to be a problem.
@Becks, I thought I made this comment here but it’s on a different post so I just copied it.
Their team would really have to think very carefully about how to plan it and where the Cambridges would go. The reaction they receive will very much depend on where they are & what the context/event is, imo.
If they walked out onto a stage like H&M did in NYC, they might get a smattering of polite applause (their aides would make sure there were enough people who would clap planted in the audience so they wouldn’t be *completely* humiliated) and some light heckling; a few stray boos (one being me), but mostly bored silence (or people murmuring to each other “that’s Harry’s brother, right? The racist one?” or “is she the one who made Meghan cry?”) like there was when they were shown walking to their seats at the BAFTAs.
As you said yesterday, interest in them in 2014 was way down compared to 2011, and back then, I don’t think anyone actively disliked them. Most people I know didn’t even realize or care that they were here— and we live in the place they visited, ffs. The video-turned-GIF of Kate rolling her eyes at the volunteer at whatever organization she was visiting is pretty much the only memorable moment from the entire time they were in NY.
(Well, aside from Kate’s hot pink coat at the 9/11 memorial. And the look of slightly alarmed surprise on Kate’s face when LeBron James “broke protocol” by actually daring to touch her in a posed photo. Oh, and Tom Hanks canceling a planned appearance with them at the last minute.
Other than all that, I guess it was a raging success 😂)
But now? There’s a not-insignificant number of Americans who have VERY strong opinions about them post-Sussexit, imo, and none of them good. Especially now that the Sussexes live here and are beloved and considered our royalty. More than 17 million people watched the Oprah interview, and I think (?) only the Super Bowl got higher ratings for the entire year. Most of the US is aware that they were literally bullied out of the family, and I feel like there’s sort of a ‘protective’ feeling toward H&M here, if that makes sense?
Anyway, they would probably have a decent turnout of fans in the Rust Belt. Maybe they can go to some of the airport hangars where Trump held his rallies! #PoorJason can start researching now, before he leaves them.
“[They] are aware that their popularity took a bit of a dive post the Oprah interview…”
They admit that?!? Now, there’s a shocker…
But they’ve never been popular here. Their last tour here didn’t make a splash. Their tours within the UK flop, and Earthshyte got very little engagement. To announce all those financial heavy hitters and only have $5,000,000 to save the Earth is a joke.
Will and Karen aren’t popular anywhere outside the UK, and that’s only with the press agreement to destroy the Sussexes to prop up the Keens, and a Tory pollster who is related to their National Sidechick Camilla Parker Bowles.
That’s a good point about the prizes. This year, they gave out 5 prizes worth £1m each. That really doesn’t seem that much to me, given the scale of some of the projects concerned. And in particular given the corporate donors supporting this, for whom £1m will be small change. For example, one of the winners is the Republic of Costa Rica. Another is the City of Milan. How much difference is £1m really going to make to them?
It just seems like a load of hot air to me.
“a BIT of a dive?” That’s quite an understatement.
Please come, our media will love to ask about your uncle Andrew and if you discussed Harry’s child’s skin color. Looking forward to it.
Btw, isn’t this overshadowing the queens jubilee next year?
@Lizzie: Kate got a taste of that when Jill Biden visited. The US reporters are not going to be afraid to shout out those questions to them.
Exactly. They can’t order the American press to fawn over and pump them up and ignore the growing number of elephants in the room. They will dig deeper and look closer at their actions and projects and will see that it’s all smoke and mirrors. You can’t force crowds to come out and adore you. In fact, chances are high that people in the crowd will hurl insults and push their buttons. US Paparazzi will DEFINITELY do that. US celebrities and power players are mostly Team Sussex. And the ones who aren’t are MAGA types. So they will be associated with racists, xenophobes and homophobes.
And finally, no matter what they do, every last one of them will bring up Harry and Meghan in some capacity whenever they do ANYTHING and they will be left wanting.
Along these lines ,the hot mic from a few years ago is going to be a problem for them – where the reporter admitted that she dropped the Andrew story bc the royals threatened to cut off access to William and Kate. That’s going to be in the back of many minds if we see the same sycophantic coverage of the Cambridges here that we see in the UK (from sources other than People etc.) “What deal was made here? Were you told what you could and could not ask?” The rota have certain rules they stick to with the royals and asking them questions etc, the US press does not – will the palace try to enforce those rules though? Will US media play along?
I think a few years ago they were willing to, bc they were so desperate for pics of the Cambridges – I think at this point, there are many, many in the US press who are not willing to and are not going to play along, because pictures of the Cambridges walking into an event just aren’t that interesting.
Snuffles I said the exact same thing somewhere below! Agree on all points!
Agreed
They should’ve thought about America before they started on their smear campaign. The Windsors are some of the dumbest people on earth and I include Charles in this because he sanctioned the smear campaign.
I don’t know who is dumber, the Windsors or the jokers who write this crap. For f sake you’re paid by the UK, help the UK. Glam PR is secondary.
Did they not take the hint when we told them to fuck off almost 250 years ago? If they come here, I think the updated “tea party” should involve hot tea, throw directly in their faces. (But we’re not savages, we’ll be sure to have our pinkies up when we throw it.)
I would rather yell ‘why haven’t you met Lili yet?’ From a distance.
But do you really want Lili to meet them? I’d rather they stay far away until they apologize in public and private. Not gonna happen.
Kate’s extraordinary grimace when she was asked this at the roundtable with Dr Biden was quite something.
“Why did you lie about Meghan making you cry?”…..actually we could make that a chant, lol!
@Justpassingby – we should make that a t-shirt.
@justpassingby, yes!
@justpassingby- yes, to the why did you make Meghan cry? tee. I want that amplified at every event they go to. It’s literally been reduced to they both cried or Meghan claims Kate made her cry. So yes tshirts and signs should be made reminding the world that Kate “let” that false story get out and said nothing for years. Add in some why didn’t you speak up when Meghan was……insert anything that was said about her in the press. If they want to come here to compete in their petty games, then let them be greeted by this at every event and let them get no rest from it until they go back home. F- these f*ckers wanting to come here after how they treated Meghan.
As far as I can see, the only real role of the monarchy over the past 100 years has been to increase tourism, as walking and talking pieces of history. The Queen might be head of state, but she doesn’t do anything remotely beneficial in that role. The British public have far less interest in the Royals than the media would have people believe, and really it serves no purpose to have the British public too interested because then they start asking question about money.
So of course the Cambridges want to raise their profile elsewhere. As someone else pointed out in comments yesterday, while the Sussex’s might have their fans, the Cambridges do too, but now they’re all about clawing back whatever they might have lost due to the Sussex’s. It would have been far easier not to have created that situation in the first place, but here we are.
As someone living in the UK, this looks much more like self preservation to me. The UK is full of history and there will be plenty of tourism, with or without the royals. Even if they cease to exist as a monarchy, the history will still be there. So if drumming up tourism is their main role, and actually they’re not having much impact anymore, I’m guessing they know people aren’t going to want to keep funding their expensive lifestyles.
GraceB: Thank you for your UK prospective. I can tell you for a USA prospective most Americans don’t care about the British Royal Family. I think that William will do more harm than good by coming to the USA. If he doesn’t meet with Meghan/Harry it will not go unnoticed and he will look very petty and Americans will embrace Harry even more. Climate is a political issue in the USA. His earthshot prize will be seen as political by some and preachy. Case in point he had John Kerry welcome the prize to the USA. The right in the USA HATE Kerry. William is stepping into a political hornets nest in the USA. He may end up reducing tourism from American citizens to the USA with his visit. He should focus on your country. We don’t want a King nor do we want a future King telling us how to live.
I think the RF’s behavior over the past four years has done the most damage to tourism.
Does William actually believe Americans are going to validate his behaviour towards the Montecito royals?
The official tourism boards have repeatedly debunked the ‘royals bring in tourism’ argument. Not directly, but when they release stats showing nothing in the top 20 visited sites relate to the Windsors, it reveals the truth.
ITA with all of you. And there will also be a lot of “WHO’S PAYING FOR THEIR SECURITY?!” type questions followed by bitching when people learn the answer.
As far as I can tell, the Cambridges are pretty much a joke over here…occasionally a photo of them will make a good meme, but that’s about it.
To the extent that they even make headlines in the US, most have been about either their raging racism or why they’re shielding Andrew from any consequences for his behavior. They love to say “well the age of consent in the UK is 16, so he didn’t break any laws!”
It doesn’t seem to occur to them that for many of us, the issue is his criminal behavior while he was HERE— and the fact that Virginia is an American. But we already know that they care about Virginia’s welfare as much as they do about Meghan’s.
They’re the least self-aware people on the planet.
We already know which news outlets will bother to cover this: Page Six (Middleton side), US Weekly (playing sides to see what sticks), and People (for its Royals magazine, it will need the most out of a visit from them). No one else will care. Why bother?
I’d add Fox News to their very short list of insignificant supporters. The right wing, which has always been so obsessed with the Founding Fathers and that archaic brand of patriotism, got a sudden hard-on for the royals as soon as they were outed as racists.
And that right there is a huge reason they will never succeed here with Hollywood celebrities and big power players. In the US, it’s the MAGA fembots who all love Kate (because she’s skinny and wears expensive clothes). Who in their right mind would want to associate with them when they’ve got the Fox News seal of approval stamped on them? Can you see Reese Witherspoon touching them now after what was revealed in the Oprah interview? Angelina Jolie? They’d get eaten alive. The Keens will have to stick with Scott Baio and Ivanka.
God, Kate and Ivanka being stuck in a room together would be great. You just know that each of them would consider herself “above” the other, when they’re both just useless parasites and the only real difference between them is hair color.
Kate and Ivanka stuck in a room together No Exit style–beautiful. They deserve each other. They could make money for Earthshot by selling passes to watch them for 15 minutes at a time. I’d PAY to see that.
If they expect royal treatment here, they can fuggetaboutit. Prepare to roll around in the mud, dainty flowers of your own mind. Prepare to be skewered and made accountable for your despicable and disgraceful takedown of a Black American Woman whom you nearly drove to suicide and hounded out of your country. How fucking dare you think we’ll welcome you with open arms, you stupid, toxic, useless people. You are dumb. We are not. Just don’t come, like ever.
There is definitely potential for a US trip to go rather badly for them, and part of me would like to see this.
@Tabitha, a LOT of me would like to see it, too
They’ll come to the south and rural areas full of white supremacists everywhere else. It will be an attempt at MAGA 2, which is basically the last thing the US needs.
Hmm…were they focused on America when they started that smear campaign? They obviously weren’t thinking ahead, or have become jealous, didn’t think H&M would succeed after leaving-or all the above?
At the beginning their goal was to exile H&M to “Africa,” out of sight, out of mind.
Still wouldn’t have worked anyway, the Sussexes are out of sight (by choice) but never out of mind.
The royals obviously do care about the US, before Meghan too. And I can understand why because what happens in the US is shown worldwide and it’s very much considered the “centre” of the world. I’m not trying to kiss the US’ ass or whatever or be like “USA! USA! USA IS NUMBER 1!!!!” but yeah the market and the publicity potential in the US is huge, especially compared to the UK.
All I’ll say is good luck to them I guess. “Glamorous” events like the Oscars that have been around for decades are struggling with viewership so a niche environmental award that’s a year old is going to struggle even more. And they better learn some media training. While they’re able to guzzle the UK press and not answer anything they don’t want to, the US press won’t be so “kind” and will ask what they want, when they want. See Andrea Mitchell asking Kate about Lili.
@Sofia, I read the other day that the Golden Globes probably won’t even be televised here this year, so if William thinks that Earthshot would be, he needs a reality check.
There are two reason why fetch wont happen.
1. American liberals hate billionaires ( self made) , they will hate these royals evenmore because of ideology and hierarchy.
2. Their conservative base hate anyone who back science and they will be in rude awakening.
No way is Burger King getting a whole crowd in Central Park amped up and cheering for him and his wife, but that is the adulation that he wants for himself here. Instead, he could very well get angry crowds calling him out for his racism. They will have to bring the kids to use as buffers.
Harper, everyone on thread has been saying they could get a negative reaction at their events so I think you’re spot on. They very well could bring the kids and use them as buffers. Not sure that would stop some people though. Protests can be peaceful so it might be an education.
Hee. I’d pay good money to see these two in front of any NYC audience. Preferably at the US Open and the Apollo. 🤣🤣😈
Well, I’m not worried. W&K will focus on the US with the same commitment, energy and effectiveness as they do all their other half-assed projects.
These idiots still think that all they need to do is show up somewhere and they will be loved and fawned over by all. That was the thinking behind the lame choo choo tour of Scotland, and even BP thinking they can “dispatch” Edward and Sofiesta to Scotland to stanch the independence movement.
The only people who will fawn over the Cambridges unquestioned are the MAGAts. So they can go to Mar a Lago, or to Texas to pose with gov. Abbot, or Floriad with deSantis, and get interviewed on Fox News by Tucker carlson and whatever blond is working the fox and friends circuit.
Anyone else is going to ask them questions that they won’t/can’t answer. Kate can’t handle anything but the softest of questioning, and it wouldn’t take much to set William’s temper flaring. A trip to the US would be an utter disaster. It’s funny that their handlers don’t seem to know that.
I’ve said this many, many times: Americans don’t give 2 shits about the Crown. We make fun of it. We fought a revolution against it. The mystical union of the crown and the people is ridiculous to us. We care about people: We cared about Diana, we care about Harry. We care about Meghan, who’s one of us. Plenty of royals have struck out in the US. No one gives a rats ass about Brooch Bitch’s royal books, and we think Fergie’s a joke. We don’t care about the York Princesses–both of them lived in New York for a time and they could live their lives unimpeded. We could have cared about Kate–we were certainly interested in her, but she never did anything to grow that interest. She’s a shiny surface and that’s all–she squandered her chance to be beloved in the USA, probably because she didn’t dare try to overshadow her husband.
It’s too late for them in the USA. The “cone of silence” over them, the “agreement” they have with the British media doesn’t apply here. They will get eaten alive if they do any media at all, and even if they do a soft media interview somewhere, all of our media will dissect it and talk about it. If people ignore them, they fail. If people pay attention to them, they fail.
Stay out of the US, Cambridges. I say this for your own good.
The queen has survived by sticking her head in the sand. She considers consequences then decides it is safer to do or say nothing. Apparently no one at KP has this ability. What if a smear campaign doesn’t work and makes you look like a loser? What if taking earth shot to the US leaves you shredded by the US media? Maybe the doolittles will be left off of the balcony at the jubilee if this goes bad.
Would love to hear that some USA media outlet asks why not a commonwealth country and why choose the USA at all? What other Monarchy hosts their awards shows here? It reeks of petty harassment and one up manship.. stay home.
Wow, This was part of the plot for the recent limited-run West End musical “The Windsors: Endgame”! Billy and Kate went to the USA and tried to woo Americans with song and dance. Kate wore a sequined red-white-and-blue showgirls bodysuit. Did the showrunners predict the future?
@Drperson, I sincerely hope this show comes to NY!!
I hope so too! It was definitely worth a watch. The run here has ended unfortunately, not sure what will happen to it now.
I don’t see what the Keens have to gain by coming over here. Like others have said, all it will take are a few press questions about brothers feuding, blocked christenings and skin color and poof! There it all goes! Not to mention being asked about what it means to be “too American”. I think that’s the real reason they kept Baldimort away from Pres. Biden during the summit.
I really would love to hear the Keenbridges’ answer to this question – what being “too American” means. lol
I, among others, have theorized the whole Royal Magazine of People that just features either Wills or Kkate on the cover, signaled Team Camba was not satisfy with being the only game in town in UK, that they would want America and we all know it us because they fear Haz and Megzz and want everything they have….
Greedy little piglets of anger abd dullness
The only Americans who are actually fans of these two are the same ones that supported a certain President and watch Faux News…so good luck with that!
And considering MAGA folks don’t believe in climate change, I don’t think Earthshot is going to go over well with them anyways.
MAGATs are remarkably flipflop. They might like William because he criticized Bezos. You never can tell what those loonies are going to do.
@notasugarhere – hypocrisy has never stopped the MAGATs. The only thing they are always in full agreement on is the white supremacy. Even the MAGATs who aren’t white, still support keeping the existing racist infrastructure because they figured out how to make it work for them and screw everyone else.
The Keens don’t want to be seen with MAGAs. Even Trump doesn’t even really like his base. They want to be seen with the same people that H&M are. The want to be at the cool kids table with the Hollywood elite, hobnobbing with the likes of the Bidens and Oprah. That’s what it all about. They want to be in the same playing field as the Sussexes because they are jealous, so they’re throwing together some half assed trip to some American town (they didn’t even pick a city so you know this was not planned in advance) because they need a reason to be here.
I, among others, have theorized the whole Royal Magazine of People that just features either Wills or Kkate on the cover, signaled Team Camba was not satisfy with being the only game in town in UK, that they would want America and we all know it us because they fear Haz and Megzz and want everything they have….
Greedy little piglets of anger and dullness
I noticed for the first time I’ve googled Meghan or Harry no new story attacking them popped up. Almost 2 days of nothing after their ethics partnership annoucement. Usually there’s some story about how Harry is snubbing Will or Meghan was “bad.”
Some of the main stories were pulled from what supporters have been tweeting like meghans style of coats we love, or wellness stuff that she showcased on the tig.
Soo that makes me wonder…with the plan for will and Kate to come the US will they now “call of their dogs” per se to try and look like the “good” guys (too little too late) or have they just stopped trying to look like a**holes in general since they’ve had to prop up their earth prize.
I really think their PR people are finally being listened to. Lol
Either way I don’t think any of it will work. Over 70 million people watched the Oprah interview when we all were mainly in lockdown. Since then most people are back to their lives. Not many people pay attention to gossip mags like people, Us etc. So their lasting impression of the RF is from the interview or even the crown/Diana
Super interesting observation. Really, their PR has been a series of flails and fails for years now.
But I really don’t think they’ll be making a push into the US at all – that takes planning and organization, willingness and purpose and they don’t have any of that.
Exactly. Wills and Kate would have to have an ounce of work ethic, and between them, they are in the red, on that count.
Sadly not Polo. Good morning Britain (piers Morgan old show) had thomas Markle on this morning shredding Meghan& Harry the usual. What was interesting is that the presenter mentioned how Harry isn’t going to tonight’s Diana donors party & how they seem focused on the US. Considering the U.K. tabloids always say how unpopular Harry and Meghan are in the polls you’d think that would be good.
Shows me that the British media are furious Harry didn’t go to that Diana party and clearly the press are agitated about when Harry AND Meghan AND their kids will be in Britain & when they might get pictures of them especially the kids. So Toxic dad was brought out for revenge and to blame Meghan for Harry turning his back on Britain. Only way he can prove he hasn’t in the media’s eyes is to bring the kids/ do Lili’s christening in Britain. Think that’s what’s driving the christening stories.
For all the promotion, artists like Coldplay & ed Sheehan, national treasure David Attenborough & polls around how popular the Cambridges are Earthshot didn’t do great on tv. The final episode had peak of around 3 million viewers (2 million viewers down in that usual slot) and my guess is that was highest rated episode. For the costs involved in the award show not sure the interest justifies but it’s the inaugural one so who knows.
I just saw he’s back from the grave!! Ugh!!
I agree I think that’s ITV trying to get ratings/BM mad that they don’t have control of H&M. I think at this point even the RF want him gone because of how unpredictable he is.
But I still believe that Will and his people have pulled back. There’s less quotes from royal courtiers and palace aides now.
I really think Jason is trying to sell anyone who will buy on how great Will and Kate are. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if we got magazine covers or interviews with an American media soon esp with all that’s going on with Andrew and his court case. For that to happen they need to not looked at as being the “bigger” person. We used to get a lot of William is angry stories quoted from palace aide, etc. Now we don’t
It was short lasting thing. British Press put out Thomas Markle, who has new/old portion of dirt to throw on his daughter and her husband. PoS!
Hmm, I wonder if chickens are coming home to roost. Did the queen tell prince elegant that he has made a mess of things with his smear campaign so go clean it up and this is his attempt?
Think they are already trying to plant some lies for an American audience. Did anyone see this on Deux Moi? https://instagram.com/stories/deuxmoi/2687459047750720864?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&utm_medium=copy_link
Someone claims W&K were being all lovey-dovey backstage and that Kate and Rose and other gal pals were all giggling and sipping champagne. Sure, Jan.
Why does anyone pay attention to DM anymore? There is nothing of interest there. On another forum, the Meghan haters work up what lies they’re going to submit, send them to DM, and DM publishes them.
Besides the fact that story reads like fanfiction, the writer exposed that they are clueless. There is no way Trinny Woodall and Kate could have been friends at Marlborough. Ms. Woodall is almost 60 years old and would have attended decades before Kate.
Ahahahaha. Can’t wait to see the British either press spin this or react to this with record-breaking sodium levels.
A perfect example of what we are talking about just happened on the Today Show. They did a segment on the royals. The initial story was about the Diana event happening this month (today?) but they immediately segued into Harry and Meghan not being there. Are things still strained between Harry and William? Will they ever make up? When will we see them together again? Will the Sussex family come for Christmas? Then a passing mention of Earthshot which was all of 5 seconds. Then after the segment ended continued talking about how it would be nice if Harry and William would make up. Except Al Roker, who was clearly biting his tongue.
Don’t hold back, Al!
Today seems like the channel that would the most fawning to the Cambs.
Ugh this is why I need Ronan farrow to dig into Jason knauf/William/BM secret agreement or a whistle blower to come forward and blow the lid of this operation. For the most part William has gone unscathed. Only those of us paying attention know William was behind the whole smear campaign of Meghan
This American liked them just fine until the f’d with our Meghan. Now? Not a chance. Bye!
If they visit I’ll have memories of Kate rolling her eyes, wearing pink to the WTC Memorial, and King in training words to describe MM. Psychopath. Bitch. Diplomacy.
Instead of shoring up the Commonwealth (and good luck on that, Britain), they’re jealously making a play to horn in on M&H’s turf. It won’t work. No doubt they’ll get attention and some nice photo ops, but they’re just showing how unseriously they take their positions as British royalty.
Proof once again that this is all about jealous twisted projection. They would kill to be in Harry and Meghan’s shoes, which is why they slam them so viciously.
American media won’t be afraid to ask Kate why she still hasn’t apologized for letting a false story about Meghan stay in the media uncorrected for years. The Cambridges don’t understand that American media are not going to be kept silent like the UK media can.
The last time they went to the US no one cared and that was before their despicable actions against their American sister in law.
Since Katie Nicholls doesn’t tend to wholesale make things up, this plan to come to the US was clearly told to her by KP sources and it shows that Billy is more focused about completing with his brother for popularity in a country that explicitly rejected monarchy 245 years ago. He clearly isn’t busy enough with helping his own people if he’s obsessing over trying to be popular in the US.
The ONLY reason Will & Kate have gotten pub over here in the past was due to Harry…on their own they are non-starters…good for immediately press but not good for that lovely PR after taste that TRULY builds a lasting audience…I grew up with an oil painting of QE in my house…knew ALL about their modern & historical lineage…stayed home from school to watch Charles & Diana marry and Diana was the FIRST royal that I felt an emotional connection to because she had the ability to foster that…a trait that Harry has…and NOT William…
William will be King…which is his birthright….and Harry will ALWAYS be the 🌟 which is his birthright…and no amount of H&K publicity tours will change that fact.
I was wondering when a member of the royal family would next dare step foot in the US or any country with a sizeable population of people with African heritage. I advise them to choose their events and the people they meet very carefully. Focusing on MAGA type people and places might be good for them.
I think they want an Oprah interview like … Adele
Yup I agree with this. Problem is they have nothing to talk about. It would have made sense if they did one for their wedding anniversary but at this point they both haven’t done anything worthy of a 1hr special. So the only thing they would have to talk about would be a response to Harry and Meghans interview. By spring it will be a year since it’s happened. H&M have moved on. I think Will and Kate would look bitter and jealous esp since they weren’t talked about that much in the Oprah interview.
They also can’t do an Oprah interview bc she is not going to have her questions be approved or have limits set on what she can ask. If they sat down with a real journalist, like Oprah, they would be in trouble, bc the questions wouldn’t be “so what do you like to do for fun,” the questions would be “why did you make Meghan cry” and “Harry said your relationship was ‘space,’ how do you define it?” and “do you support your niece and nephew being made HRHs when your father ascends the throne?””
And that’s just going off her H&M interview, that’s not getting into the leaks, the threatened lawsuits if anyone mentions “rose hanbury,” the invisible contract, etc.
She’s not going to give them a platform to say “Meghan was mean! She expected us to work! We don’t do that in the royal family!!!!”
I don’t know if they want an Oprah interview (I feel like they would never do a sit down interview with someone who’s not a sycophant and will actually ask them real questions) but they certainly want people to forget everything H and M said in their Oprah interview. They think they can charm the “American commoners” so everyone forgets they’re just a bunch of racists.
Considering all the troubles that Britain is having (empty gas stations and shelves) I don’t understand why they would venture to America. They need to shore up support at home and inspire their countrymen otherwise the average person won’t look kindly to their sparkly pr machine.
We fought a revolutionary war to get away from these people.
That comment actually got a laugh from me! I guess stalking is a national past-time with these people. If you leave their country to get away from them, well by golly, they’ll follow you to your new country! Jeez, give it a rest Will & Kate. Do us all a favor and stay in your lane.
Great, just let me know where to show up to boo and wave a rude sign. 😘
I’ll keep you company. All I know is that no U.S. taxpayer dollars better go these moochers. Otherwise one Tea Party won’t be enough for me.
They should focus on doing some actual work in the country that supports their over privilege, spoiled asses.
Fox News? OANN? Newsmax? I feel like their shenanigans would appeal to a very specific market share…
If they’re pushing for environmental causes I am fine with this. I do think that it’s a little arrogant, though. Like anything British, it feels colonial to have royals coming here telling us how to live. I feel the same way about Meghan and Harry using their titles here.
This doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. They so badly wanted Meghan gone from the UK, but now they need to come to the US to do a stupid award show? So he can spout his uninformed opinions about climate change because he knows so much better than Americans or the politics involved in passing the most minimum of change ? I can’t believe that after almost 2 years, they are even worse now. You’d think all the pomp and circumstance of the Crown and fawning UK press would be more than enough but no. Maybe he can have his pendejo award show at Boston Harbour.
Pathetic isn’t it. How needy they are?
I’m wondering a little bit if Will’s plan for having the next Earthshot in America was to spend time hanging out with people like Bezos and Elon Musk and the other billionaire tech giant guys who can fund the prize money and who would support the cause? Not too liberal, not too conservative, not too Hollywood, not too MAGA. So maybe that was the idea when they were planning for american Earthshot. But oops, during his PR for London Earthshot he said all that crap about how billionaire space cowboys are stupidly spending money on space tourism rather than fixing this planet and he got everyone mad at him. There were a surprising number of articles and news clips about those quotes of his and a lot of pushback. So….. what’s the plan now? Where is he going to host this thing? Who is going to sponsor and help pay for the awards show? Who’s going to willingly hang out with him now? Maybe that’s why they didn’t announce a city when they announced America. I kind of hope they are scrambling now after William’s big mouth got him in trouble.
omg, That turtleneck and velvet suit is HILARIOUS. He looks as comfortable in that as a dog on a bicycle. Kitty & Willie will have a harsh reality if they think anyone over here gives a fig about them. They are soooooooooooo boring!
I think William is going for the Hugh Hefner look.
Well they had better make sure the BM gets the memo bc slamming all things American and Hollywood, and esp Madame Duchess, will not endear them to the vast majority of us. Neither will deciding to just grace us with their presence while still publicly abusing M&H. Prince Harry has repeatedly proven himself so has been accepted by most. We’re good at seeing through bs and calling people out on their bs. The BRF had better hire competent people to plan, prepare and accompany them on this or it will be disastrous. The Cambridges need to take acting lessons to better hide their disdain for the lesser mortals, and each other. Most grifters are incredibly skilled actors – they don’t have a national media propagating and perpetuating their con. However, most grifters are also intelligent and adaptable so…good luck?
This couple needs to concentrate on matters in their own country rather than trying to bring their dog and pony show here. The majority of Americans won’t forget how disdainful they are of us, how Hollywood we are, and hopefully they’ll get a reminder of why we took a walk 250 years ago. The American media won’t pussyfoot around them the way the rotor does. In the words of Bob Grant, a radio talk show host from years ago, they’re fakes, phonies and frauds.
I just…how do they see this playing out? If the plan is to promote their “brand” and this awards show, they’ll have to do press. A “prestige” program isn’t necessarily going to give them much of a boost, and I don’t see them doing talk shows. And even the most milquetoast interviewer is gonna ask about racism and the Sussexes anyway. They could do a speech to the UN or congress (but that’s been done, and anyway they’re “not political”).
Can William’s ego handle doing SNL? John Oliver? I think not.
So where does that leave them? They can visit some sustainable projects or programs and pose with cute kids, but they are not particularly personable or impressive on their home turf. They might be able to do some celebrity events, but that could backfire and alienate the royal rota back home! They could probably swing a state dinner at the White House, and Kate would have an excuse to don a tiara and rewear a dress from her teens (which still fits her after three pregnancies, guys, isn’t that astonishing? Such an accomplishment).
Not to mention I don’t know how they can step foot in America and not visit or meet with the Sussexes, and that will for sure overshadow anything else they try to do. Maybe they can wait until Harry announces a work trip and then just make the Earthshot awards that day?
If the plan is to travel the world to present their Earthshite prizes, why not start with Commonwealth countries to shore up their crumbling desire to stay in the Commonwealth? Here in Canada Harry has highlighted the egregious and quite probably criminal oil drilling and quasi-fracking that will have a terrible impact on the wildlife, water supply and peoples of two World Heritage sites in Botswana, including the renowned Okavango Delta. UNESCO has repeatedly warned that it has serious concerns about the petroleum project of Vancouver-based ReconAfrica so Harry has picked up the torch and is running hard with it. National Geographic and other eco-targeted publications are writing articles about the shocking cover-up. Harry is actually doing something about it whereas the Keens are merely trying to catch up to him, but they never will. They look like a couple of hamsters running on a wheel compared to Harry and Meghan.
Wilie and waity didn’t accept a Hollywood actress into their family but they want be welcomed in Hollywood. They have no concept of reality
Well they believe Hollywood can’t wait to welcome them with open arms and bask in their glamour and importance or something.
You’re right, no concept of reality.
The UK media was condescending to the U.S. media during Biden’s visit. The UK media made public comments about the U.S. media on radio and podcasts, so yes do come over here with William and Kate and see how that goes.
Prince William ego-shot project be like:
First England
Second America
Then moon and then
Mars
F*ked it I’ll be the king of the world
I’m more cynical. America has been an outlet for burnishing the royals’ place at the top of the social/ diplomatic ladder. We loved Diana & were always charmed by royal WH state dinners & formal charity events in the past. Royal foundations have US branches & donors. W/the sovereign as head of state, the official gateways to American diplomacy & elite are open to W&K. No one in those circles will turn them away. But they can’t manufacture respect or affection. They’ll have some from existing partners, Cambridge fans & from self serving right wing pundits & media outlets. But those of us who hold W&K accountable won’t be moved by their charm offensive. They’d be better off repairing the damage done to H&M, because Oprah had nothing to do w/the abuse W&K perpetuated/approved and how it damaged their own reputation. They can come for the show but they can’t grab the Sussex love or support.
@LRobb I agree there would be a core group of donors in DC and they could fundraise by attending a couple of dinner parties or whatnot. Unfortunately for William and Kate, the exact people who they want to be seen with and worshiped by are the ones who wouldn’t have anything to do with them. William might assume that since he’s a keen environmentalist now, Leo DiCaprio would be sure to attend something like Earthshot, but it’s not a safe assumption by any means. They could definitely get Kid Rock.
I can see them being in a photo with, for example, someone like Kellyanne Conway, lol. The real stars are Sussex fans.
Let the Cambridges come to America, hopefully a reporter can ask them when Pedo Andy is going to cooperate with the FBI.
That source quote 🤢… It says a lot that their reaction to the Oprah interview is to bemoan their popularity rather than condemn racism 🙄
They never cared about us before…………
This is dumb.
I was just looking at the top picture of Kate and William, and Kate looks rather stiff, and like a mannequin whose arms need to be adjusted to look a little more like-like. They’ve really caught her in an unflattering pose.
I think this is a test the waters move by Big Willy and Keen. I don’t think it generated the excitement they expected. This will just quietly fade away. The comments in the Washington Post article was meh at best and some people questioning why they would publish a puff piece that belongs in the tabloids.
So William the Conqueror is ready to invade the US Colony to restore the Windsor’s claim on the colony’s resources: money, fame, power and privilege. Expecting the American peasants to fully bow down to his Earthshot propaganda …!! Wake up, Willy! It’s easier to mend the rift with your brother and sister-in-law than to convince Americans to believe in your fairy tales.
If they really wanted to make a splash in America, they should bring Uncle Andrew with them and leave him for the feds.
Bwaaaahhaaahaaaaaa!!!!! If only they’d had a glamorous, hard working American in their midst. Can you imagine the positive attention that could’ve generated in the US? Bwaaaahahhahahaaaa!!
America has always been a huge market for TRF. Their sole claim to relevance is that they boost brand Britain and draw tourism to the UK, the majority of that has always come from America. Americans love themselves the princess fantasy & everything that the monarchy sells them, which is why it was always particularly stupid for them to take the tack that they did with M&H. They’ve always needed the US, they just were dumb enough to let their petty jealousy fumble their bag.
M&H were the best thing that happened to brand Windsor in years, but specifically to maintaining their hold on the American market. They thought America loved the family rather than the fantasy of joining that family, and now that they’ve seen how the fantasy of the American girl turned princess played out, TRF is finding out that the only thing people care about is the fantasy not the specific family acting it out. We got a better princess story than we expected, we got the prince actually loving the girl, and we don’t need the rest of them to watch it play out. Now they are scrambling to try and hold onto the bag.
I thought the Sussexes abandoned Britain. how are they praising Kate and Will for focusing on a country outside the commonwealth, and not only that, one that fought a war to kick them out?? So much cosplay.
I don’t believe this is true. William & Kate know that they are second in line to be King & Queen Consort of the UK. They will have a powerful institution with a lot of prestige behind them. They don’t need to compete with H&M in the US or any other country.
Since the awards are global, it makes sense to hold them in a large country where there is a lot of talk about climate change, but not a lot of action.
Also, I don’t believe the average American cares about either couple too much.
With their dull personalities and lack of anything special what makes them think America needs them. Have to laugh, they can’t even manage to look halfway interested in each other let alone an entire foreign country. Talk about deluded.
Watching Harry and Megan’s wedding, it was clear that no one in that family understood Americans. That wedding was such a lovely integration of two cultural religious traditions (the Church of England and the American Episcopal church), with some of our most American elements very much on display. William’s expressions during the service indicated that he really didn’t “get it” – and he’s not going to. He will not be popular in the US if he has such disdain for our culture and our values.
Number 1 rule: never underestimate your audience ..
if myself and the other posters here are rolling their eyes at their weird , fake , frankly ridiculous attempts at meangirling, leaked saccharine and lunatic stories to the tabloids ; about statesman William and top CEO Kate (who has NEVER put a foot wrong.. ) then many others are rolling their eyes too
I mean there are a few complete squares out there who might just love all the fan fiction, but most average people would read one of Caroles fanciful planted stories and proclaim ..” do they actually think we are all completely gullible and dim witted??
Will reminds me of that little brat you see that only is interested in the toys that other kids are having fun playing with.. once he has grabbed the toy.. he’s no longer interested in it.. these two are so obviously obsessed with whatever they think the sussexes have and trying to jealousy grab any piece of happiness and peace they have …
We are ahead of the curve .. their karma is coming
This jealous couple chased H&M out of the UK now want to come to the US thinking they can play the same games but they forgot the US media isn’t like the tabloids rags
They want to “reclaim” those American dollars they see Harry & Meghan scooping up.
They just seem more and more toxic, not to mention thirsty. It’s pretty pathetic.