Just a few days after the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s Oprah interview aired, the Daily Mail’s Richard Kay wrote a completely bonkers article which read – partially – like he was regurgitating sh-t which was shouted down the phone at him by Prince William and/or Carole Middleton. Kay’s piece was a ham-handed defense of Duchess Kate’s honor, but Kay couldn’t help but be a bit shady. It was supposed to be damage control for the Cambridges, but like so many of their keen damage-control pieces, it was strangely revealing in a negative way. Kate came across like a mean girl and drama queen who was jealous of Meghan and possessive of Harry. Which is probably pretty true, right? I bring up that Kay piece because the end of it stuck with me for months:
While this is no doubt a perilous moment for the House of Windsor, William and Kate can surely be its salvation. For they are the only two family members who have the star power to out-dazzle the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. With support for the royals on a knife-edge in America, they should be sent there as soon as travel restrictions allow. Not to California, but to New York and the East Coast: Diana territory. There, they could give a real example of duty and public service that is far removed from the woke monarchy channelled by Harry and Meghan.
Kay was telegraphing the fact that Harry and Meghan did real damage to the Windsors’ image and standing in America. As we know, the British royals thrive on American media interest, American tourism, American charity donors and on and on. They thought they could abuse an American woman within the UK and no one would find out about it, because they’re too stupid to realize that all media is global now and that people around the world were paying attention to the scorn, racism, sexism and anti-Americanism being thrown at Meghan.
Kay was also the first person (from what I saw) to point out that the Windsors absolutely needed to put in some face-time in America, lest the Sussexes get the full run of the place. Seven months later, and the Cambridges are finally acknowledging that. Katie Nicholl reported this week that “Team Cambridge is very focused on America and making sure they have a high profile over there,” and that W&K are likely to make a trip to America next year. The Cambridges also “are aware that their popularity took a bit of a dive post the Oprah interview, and that the focus now is on getting that support back. America is a very important audience for them.” I guess all of the royal reporters got the memo too, and Project Embiggening The Keens For American Audiences has commenced.
The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge could be expected to embark on a royal tour across the pond soon. Royal expert Duncan Larcombe, who wrote Prince Harry: The Inside Story, has claimed that “going over there will no doubt rock” Prince Harry and Meghan Markle who have now settled in California.
“A royal tour to the US is long overdue,” he told the Daily Star. “They are our most important allies and there is a huge appetite for the royals over there. Royal tours take around six months to plan in secret, so it’s likely there’s one in the works to visit later this year or next, and my best bet is it will be William and Kate. It’s part of their royal duties to visit the States, so they’ll go at some point, whether it’s next year or the near future.
“Harry and Meghan have made the US their home and their target audience. So the prospect of William and Kate going over there will no doubt rock them.”
A potential royal tour from Kate and William to occur “under Harry and Meghan’s nose, on their turf” would be “very awkward” for the Sussexes, Mr Larcombe stated. The royal expert believes the Cambridges are most likely to be the ones visiting the States due to their popularity.
“I was there on their 2011 tour to California, and Kate and Wills went down a storm. At the moment, it seems like they can do no wrong,” he said. “They’ll be the royals’ best bet in boosting the popularity of the Firm in America.”
Stalker much? Is this the start of a full-court press where the Cambridges are really leaning into American markets ahead of visit in the next few months? I don’t even think it is! I think Will and Kate might be too lazy to actually follow-through. I mean, maybe they will end up visiting New York in, what? March of next year? I say that because their M.O. seems to be taking off most of January and February in years past.
As for the sh-t about how the Sussexes will be quaking in their boots because Will & Kate will do a royal tour… it’s funny because I get the feeling that the CopyKeens are just going to end up doing exactly what Harry & Meghan did on their tour of New York. And by then, Harry & Meghan will probably have done more trips and charity works too. Oh, this is going to be so much fun.
These are photos from their last tour in America, their trip to New York in December 2014. It was on that trip that Kate wore hot pink to the 9/11 Memorial.
Photos courtesy of Avalon Red.
Haha, no it won’t.
Once again…..Americans are NOT British subjects. William is a future King of England. He should keep that shit in the UK. We don’t need William and Kate doing a tour in the USA to tell us what?? To highlight what?? Don’t they have issues in the UK and the Commonwealth they should focus their time and attention. Can some one name another country where the future King is planning a royal tour to the USA? Just one country please… William/Kate must understand that because Meghan is an American Citizen she has the privilege to speak to her fellow Americans…they have no such privilege, tread lightly Cambridges…tread lightly
Right?! I cannot think of anyone I am less impressed with than TOB and Keen. I realize I am just an uncouth American, but Girl Pkease keep your drama in Britain. Maybe you should take some time to reach out to actual British subjects who are struggling instead of trying to outdo your brother over here!
That’s where I am with this. If they actually come, I feel like, why are you people here? Go home. Don’t you have your own country and Commonwealth to worry about?
Feeling the same. No, they don’t have to come here. The writer says it’s a part of their royal duties to come to the states. No, it isn’t. Get that they want the tourism etc but this isn’t their country and they don’t own us. Don’t play cutesy pictures over here after your anti-American, racist, and sexist treatment of Meghan.
Ironic because in the US, they are viewed purely as CELEBRITIES.
My favorite part of their last visit to NYC is still Kate openly rolling her eyes at a volunteer who told her to get back to work. It’s a very handy GIF now!
I cannot wait for them to find out firsthand that “Diana territory” is now “Sussex territory.”
Lol they’ll tour America, but not visit their own niece and nephew?
The greatest part of H&M’s “tour” was they did big business, had many photo ops, visited the local communities and made several donations to highlight worthy causes.
What will will and Kate do?
They will smile and chat briefly about nothing, but their keenness. Wear expensive clothes and leave.
We are not obligated to praise another country’s royalty. Especially when they’re so racist and boring.
Shouldn’t they be going to the commonwealth countries to shore up support? Like this is a vanity move and obviously so. They’re going to put the final nail in the monarchy’s coffin.
Who will pay for this? When they visit CW countries, don’t those countries pay for the tours? Because they’re part of the CW and because they pay for the royals in some capacity? Is the UK and CW going to pay for the Cambridges to take a big glitzy NY your in the US? Because that seems like a stupid idea that would make a lot of struggling Brits mad. They’re already a little pissed that they pay so much for these royals that do nothing for them, now they have to pay for the royals to go have a PR vacation in a country that has nothing to do with the royals or the CW and can in no way benefit British citizens?
Does America pay for some of this, like the security? I can’t imagine that being a good idea either. Why would we want to pay for these racist mean girls to drag their rota across the ocean so said rota can write anti Meghan, anti American stories directly from America? This just seems like such a bad idea. They need to build some interest before they come here. They need to make themselves actually popular in their own country first, and then in the rest of the UK, then in the rest of the CW, and then maybe America will be “excited” to receive them, or it will at least seem like more of a legit diplomatic visit. I feel like it would be easier to sell them as “representative of the British government” if Brits actually seemed to like them and were excited/at least not embarrassed about having Will and Kate represent them. How are we supposed to accept your “soft diplomacy” diplomats here and expect that literally anything productive will come out of the visit when the places they actually represent like Scotland are actively trying to reject them and get pissed when they visit?
@lorelei and it is important to note that the volunteer who told her to get back to work was a black woman and so kate rolling her eyes has extra context. And foreshadowing of her behaviour to come.
@AmyToo, people would definitely be pissed when they found out that Americans were paying for the bulk of it.
But before any visit even happens, don’t they need to be INVITED? Presumably by the Bidens? If we invite them, then at least it makes a modicum of sense that we would pay for their security while they’re here. If the Cambridges just…show up? Or invite themselves? IDK
@amytoo
Stop. You’re making too much sense! This is why William will make a piss poor King. His focus should be on the UK, the Commonwealth and international soft diplomacy. But he’s become obsessed with beating Harry. And he’s letting himself being egged on by the royal rota. Their priority is getting their profits back up. And since nothing is working to get the Sussex’s back on UK soil, they have no choice to come to them. The are trying to either force a reunion or think that the threat of the Cambridge’s coming to the Sussex’s “turf” will force them to come out more often in order to compete. None of which will work. The Sussex’s are not reactive like the Cambridge’s, they’re proactive. They’ll make their appearances on their own time for their own projects and nothing else.
This just feels to me like when the US would send Ivanka off for “diplomatic missions.” The vibe here was always like “cringe. She’s so embarrassing, hopefully she doesn’t do something to *irreparably* harm relations there.” And the host countries were probably like “whelp. This is a ridiculously expensive farce. She’s not actually smart enough or respected enough to do real diplomatic business with, so I guess we’ll just have to put government business on hold for a few days so one of us can babysit her around the country and keep her entertained so she doesn’t cry to daddy about us not treating her like Princess America.”
Like whenever Will and Kate go anywhere for tours, I get the sense that the British press and the rest of the RF are holding their breath and crossing their fingers just hoping that Will doesn’t tell any “jokes” and Kate doesn’t have any wardrobe malfunctions. And if the country that the “diplomats” are coming from acknowledge that the people they’re sending are ghastly stupid, out of touch, and incompetent, than how is the host country supposed to feel? Like is anyone actually going “ah Prince William, third in like from the throne, he definitely has the power to make promises on behalf of his country. He’s definitely got the education and the successful work history that makes me believe he will understand all the intricacies of this diplomatic problem we need to fix”? No. The RF is basically just asking that we pay for and entertain their brat kids for a few days Bc the brat kids needs a vacation and would like to have their picture taken next to something “exotic” like a school in Harlem. It’s such a farce.
I get Royal visits to the CW and the rest of the UK. That’s who is paying for the RF. and they probably get a little thrill out of seeing them, or they at least want to feel like they’re getting their monies worth. These are their supposed representatives who can make plans to help these communities based on what they see on the ground. (Not that w and k ever do.) But America? We have no connection to them. We don’t get anything out of the visit. They’re not going to go home and think of a huge project to help that one school they saw in Tulsa, OK build a library. They’re not part of our culture. And we have way more and way bigger celebs here that we keep up with and who do things like charity visits and surprise visits to schools. We have no need for the royals on a PR/cultural level, or even a gawking celebrity level.
So then it must be for government relations….except, Will and Kate aren’t authorized to act on behalf of the government like the Queen or Charles and Camilla are. So maybe it’s charitable travel? Like Harry had to came here with the idea of helping American vets and checking out the warrior games so he could bring the idea back home and start invictus, and he also made connections between various vet charities throughout the world, because he actually does stuff like that. But Will and Kate don’t have that either. Theyre not coming here for Earthshot inspiration bc Earthshot is already “the biggest most prestigious green awards show of all time, not even kidding, take that Harry!” And we know they don’t set up links between their charities and other charities. Their minds don’t think like that. They’re going to go to museums and frown at things, visit a daycare or school and hyena grin at things, go to some fancy thing and glare at each other, go to a sustainable garden and cross their arms in front of their crotch while head tilting at things. It doesn’t make sense on any level except as a super obvious PR stunt for them/competition with Harry and Meghan to see who had a “better looking” tour or who had the best outfits in NY.
Only British royal fans would believe that. Will andKate together Don’t make one Harry or Meghan.The Cambridge’s like the other royals are really Clueless
I mean, how stupid are they? I delight in finding out.
Meanwhile–no, we don’t care a fig for your racist monarchy. Come on over, we’ll show you.
@Merricat My thoughts exactly!!! I really hope they do come over. And I hope protestors show up everywhere they go and scream “racists” and “abusers” at them. They have been protected in the UK, but there will be no hiding here and I am so ready for it.
@Merricat @Pink Flamingo
I’m rubbing my hands together at the thought of their showing up thinking they are revered as Future King and Queen Sh*t, only to find protestors dogging them at every stop, screaming abuse with overripe tomatoes in hand…
I would LOVE to see them visit Boston or Philadelphia. Philadelphia is the city that threw batteries at Santa Claus, and Boston has been slightly rabidly anti-monarchy since the Stone Age (the burning of the HMS Gaspee will live FOREVER in Bostonian history). Those two towns in particular seem to have a very creative attitude towards expressing public disapproval and I want to see what they’d come up with this time.
First, no American tax dollars should pay for ANY portion of this lazy lot’s visit. EVER! Jerks. Second, these people who forced their way into (was it Scotland during the height of the pandemic?) think they can just force their way into America? Hah! You don’t get to stake out any coast in this country because it’s not yours. The gall of these jerks to just declare that they’ll tour here, and think they can challenge Meghan in her own country after treating her so badly when she was in England. I just hope Americans on social media give them a taste of the same medicine they gave Meghan, and treat them just as poorly. To me, this just seems like a typical palace dick-move, and a stalker-move too, in that they (English royals) are so preoccupied with Meghan and Harry. They actually think that forcing yourself on people will make them like you more… where did they learn this the Harvey Weinstein School of Charm?
The BRF have seriously over estimated American interest in them.
right? I mean, we all circulate in our own whirlpools, but I don’t know one single person in the US who gives half a shit about royals. We have enough celebrities here. Royalty has historical significance from the days of old when they actually ruled countries, but now it’s just more like…nostalgia for Brits or something.
@ Mac, yes they have. I guess we are still inhabiting Delusional Island with regards to the Lamebridges!! TOB and KKWeen are forever copying/angry/jealous/lazy/racist asses think that the US is interested in them visiting, but we aren’t!! Not even a little bit!! They need to stay in the England and stick with those who care and that’s no one here, for certain!
Baldimort, stay in the UK and stick to CW countries. There is NO welcome mat here….keep walking….
It’s like they think that bc People magazine puts them on the cover once a month that every American supermarket shopper must want to see them. When we know that the editor of People is British and he’s part of the silent contract so gets quotes and insider information in exchange for writing fluff about Catherine: the Next Queen and airbrushing hair onto William.
I seriously believe that Lacombe is on crack or maybe popping 💊💊s. That’s all I have.
@Lorelei, that’s an excellent point. Who invited them here?? NOBODY. They’re gate crashers!
That poor idiot got it wrong again! Sending the Cams won’t get americans attention. The only person who could accomplish that would be Andrew! The press would be full of stories about him! They might even get the US to pay for the trip if they send him. The line of americans who’d love to meet him would be looong! FBI agents, Virginia Roberts solicitors… Maybe not the attention they want but, any PR is good PR, right? Right?
@Couch potato – I’m DYING!!
LMAO!
Cheating Willie and haggard Kate won’t upstage Harry and Megham.
Instead they bore us. Willie is just like daddy who cheated all during his marriage to Diana and expected her to suck it up like the Queen did with Phillip’s constant cheating. I have no respect for any of them except Harry and Meghan.
Is this soft diplomacy to lure us back into Britain’s arms? Cause the revolution pretty much quashed that dream. Visiting Canadian would make sense (sorry Canadians!) but wtf would they accomplish here? The intro tour after they were married was a bit much but could be seen as soft diplomacy but keep your unmasked butts over there!
We don’t want them either.î
we do not want them either, now if it was Harry and Megan that would be different lol
As a Canadian I can tell you honestly that I cannot think of anything more boring than Baldimort and Gurning Face showing up in Canada. I am old. The queen has always been on our money, since before I was born. I am OK with that, as she has earned the right to be on our money and will be on our money until long after Charlie achieves the throne.
But to those two idiots who really don’t care very much about what is involved in actually representing the throne and the Commonwealth, I have only this to say: William and Kate, you are selfish, lazy, entitled, and boring as hell. I was not that much invested in Harry and Meghan until I realized the cruelty that they had been subjected to, and then I got quite angry on their behalf. Nothing you have done since she came into the public eye has made me convinced of anything but your stupidity, racism and cruelty and outright jealousy. So by all means do your charm offensive in the United States. I’m sure it will just go over as well as Prince Andrew’s BBC interview did when he explained he was at a pizza joint in Woking and couldn’t be possibly groping a teenage girl in London.
Do these island dwellers have any idea how big the USA is? They are going to show up on the East coast acting like they are in Harry and Meghans backyard. Also. They have an agreement with the UK press. That’s not how things work here. I’m sure their White supremacist supporters will love for them to show up. ….. and that’s it. No one cares about them. They don’t work. They aren’t interested in anything. They aren’t interesting. Abs they hate America. F off.
I live in NYC. They’re more than welcome to come over so I can yell at them to apologize to Meghan.
This is what I was thinking. There’s no way people in NYC aren’t going to heckle them.
Coming on the day of Meghan’s letter. This is so gauche. Honestly. Do better. Be better. Do some good in this world (that goes for the Cambridges and RR).
Its clear they don’t even believe their own PR nonsense, if they had to insert the Sussexes into everything they do
Surely the second they set foot in the US, the media will be asking whether they’re going to meet up with Harry and Meghan somewhere/somehow, whether H&M come to them, or they go to Montecito? And it’ll look really bad when that doesn’t happen, and re-open (not that it was ever closed) the question of who the royal racist is and what the war of the Waleses was really about?
Yeah I agree if they come to the US and there isn’t at least one joint engagement or private visit it proves who the racists are and who was behind them being driven away. We all know it was them, Harry pretty much said that in the Oprah interview when he said that he speaks to his father rather than his brother.
So true. A tour of the U.S. is just bad all around. If they meet with the Sussexes then naturally all the headlines will be about H&M. If they don’t meet with H&M that’s gonna be an even bigger headline. Baldimort and Keen need to learn you can’t compete where you don’t compare. A trip to the U.S. is just gonna highlight how unpopular they are.
Yes, I don’t think anyone over there is thinking rationally or strategically. This whole thing, as it has been from the beginning, is being driven by W’s insane jealousy, pettiness and sense of entitlement.
Will needs to get himself one the Sh$t Show Supervisor sweatshirts popping up in ads.
The irrational idea of a “tour” in America just shows me that Prince Harry and Meghan’s U.S. moves have been really unsettling to the RF. Then, H & M’s recent New York trip must have sent the English royals into paroxysms of fright, especially as it was in New York – which I hear is really coming into its own, any day now, just wait for it. At least that’s what I hear.
Anyway, W & K just come off as reactive, petty, and trying hard to compete. The only thing I have to say is H & M never go anywhere without bringing a little gift. So, W & K should copy this move as well and come to America bearing 2 gifts: 1) a big-ass apology to Meghan and 2) bring Andrew.
Exactly!
( also I know I am being petty but the USA is not a commonwealth country so it is a business trip or pr trip. We are not subjects for them to visit via a Royal tour.)
The only way this can end well for W&K is if they reconcile with H&M. As far as I can see, H&M hold all the publicity cards here – they have no incentive to bolster W&K’s ambitions in the US or their PR in the UK. The only way out is real and sincere apologies, not just from W&K, but from the entire RF.
Your comment is spot on. No point coming to the US if the feud with Sussexes is still raging. William and Kate need to apologise to Meghan for all the nastiness that has been flung at her while they allowed it to happen. I believe the need for an apology is what is holding things back. It needs to happen before the Queen’s Jubilee.
@Eurydice, ITA, and hell will probably freeze over before that happens.
*Every single encounter* with a reporter will include at least one question about the Sussexes. The American press does not take marching orders from the palace, and they sure as sh!t won’t agree to a pre-approved list of topics they’re “allowed” to ask the precious Cambridges about.
William’s temper will get the best of him. IMO he won’t be able to handle days and days of this, all while smiling and not letting his fury show through tightly clenched teeth. The Cambridges should either be prepared for this, or cancel this ill-conceived trip.
“William have you talked to Harry yet?!?!?!”
“William have you called your brother?!!??!”
“Are you two going to meet Lili while you’re here??”
“William tell us how was concerned about Archie’s skin color!”
“William do you think Archie and Lili should be HRH???”
“William why did your father pull your brother’s security??”
“William WHO IS ROSE HANBURY?!?!?!!?”
yeah its going to be a hot mess.
@Becks: So. Much. Clenching.
@ Lorelei – If this trip is necessary for UK/US relations (and we don’t know that it is), do you think it would be better if Charles and Camilla made the trip? He’s the actual future king, he wants to cement Camilla as queen consort and the Queen could pop off any minute.
There would still be the issue of reconciling with H&M, but it seems that could be easier from a PR standpoint – father/son, grandfather/grandkids – more understandable than sibling rivalry and uncontrollable jealousy.
Kate will also get asked about why she let a false story blaming Meghan about making her cry remain uncorrected years later. American media hold people accountable for their actions so these two won’t be able to handle it. Not all reporters care about scoring an interview with royals so there will be a reporter that will ask hard questions.
@Eurydice, imo, probably? If Charles and Camilla were to come for a state dinner, I think that would at least be seen as a legitimate reason for them to be here, and while I don’t think they’d generate a ton of press, imo the coverage they would get wouldn’t be nearly as negative as it would be for the Cambridges.
Everyone knows Charles is just as complicit as William was, but imo people just wouldn’t get that worked up about C&C? He’s a soon-to-be Head of State, so it’s to be expected that we’d have to host his racist ass at some point. Although I can’t imagine Jill Biden is looking forward to any more time with Kate, lol.
Not just questions about the Sussexes, questions about Andrew. The FBI still wants to talk with him and lawyer David Boise has a lawsuit going on. Surely they can help the US in this area, aren’t they future king and queen?
“William have you apologised to Meghan yet!”
If I were Charles, I would be planning a visit to the U.S. with the express purpose of visiting Harry and Meghan in Montecito, with Camilla. I don’t know if it has occurred to any of these morons, but he actually holds a really strong hand, PR-wise, if someone with two brain cells points it out to him. He could be basking in the goodwill glow he had after Harry and Meghan’s wedding, and as the actual future king, it would matter if he took the steps to start mending this sh*t show.
@Christine, that’s a very smart idea that makes sense tactically, and would buy Charles an enormous amount of goodwill (which I don’t think he deserves, but if reconciling with Charles is important to Harry, that’s what counts) so no, I’m sure it hasn’t occurred to anyone in the palace PR brain trust.
It would have the added bonus of making the Cambridges look even worse than they already do, if Charles put aside his pride and made it clear that mending his relationship with Harry and being a part of his grandchildren’s lives is a priority for him.
I would hope for Harry’s sake that if his father did attempt this, he would be sincere, but tbh Charles has never given us reason to think he’s doing anything without some sort of self-serving motive, so IDK.
Thank you Christine. My thoughts too. Charles should take a few days off to go and see his grandchildren in California. Charles and Doria are the only grandparents.
^^ As p.r. for Charles, sure @Christine. But in such an instance, I doubt that M&H are willing to throw open their doors and bathrooms in Montecito and be hospitable to the Papa who pulled his younger son’s security to try and force Harry to abandon Sussexit.
In so doing, Charles endangered the lives of Meghan, Harry, and Archie, in early 2020. I don’t think either Meg or Harry have yet fully forgiven Charles. Harry said he would like to work things through with his father. However, it is the Sussexes’ friends, Tyler Perry, Oprah, et al., who helped them during a time of great need, not any of the Windsors.
Although, I think the York girls, especially Eugenie, have remained supportive of Harry & Meghan. Maybe behind-the-scenes, the Queen has been sympathetic too, but apparently she’s hapless to do anything other than follow courtiers’ directives? And Harry appears to be sentimentally protective of his aged grandmother.
Bottom line: Harry & Meghan likely expect a public apology re the attacks against Meghan and KP’s ‘bullying’ claim against Meghan. In addition, private apologies from Charles b/f any p.r. visit, along with private and public apologies from Cain and Keen Unable.
Yes!!! I wrote this in another post a couple of days ago; no matter what they’re coming here for the $1,000,000 question will be have you seen your niece and nephew and have you visited with Harry and Meghan?
I hope that the Rota Rats get zero photo opp of the Sussexes and Cambridges should the Keens decide to be a nice Uncle and Aunty and go visit their nephew and niece.
Imagine losing a one-sided competition you started yourself.
How embarrassing.
I hope we get a wide view pic of the tens of people who will show up to see them in person.
Haha! I love this comment! 😂
Co-sign. Perfect summary!
The Keens are boxing with themselves and getting knocked out every time!
I would simply die from embarrassment.
@TheDuchess, same. Except we wouldn’t, because we would know enough to not come here in the first place! Especially not with Sussexit so raw, less than a year after The Oprah Interview. The Cambridges’ intent is obviously damage control, but imo this will backfire tremendously on them.
You win today!😂
I really don’t think Meghan and Harry care at this point as they clearly have different objectives than Will and Kate. The former are putting in the work, being selective about their pr, keeping their children hidden. The latter are hyperventilating at every move M&H make, are over hauling their closets to mimic them and forcing their kids out into the spotlight. What’s weird is how obsessed Will and Kate are about trying to be the most popular. These folks are so insecure.
Apples and oranges.
“What’s weird is how obsessed will and Kate are about trying to be the most popular”
You said it, @watson! It is weird and honestly it was that way from the start and thus the smear campaign.
@Watson … What Harry and Meghan should do is travel to England as soon as William and Kate touch down in the U.S. Now, wouldn’t ‘that’ be something? Because we know who would get the most attention. 🙂
@Yvette that would truly be so, so funny 😭
A new variant has popped up in England, and one case was found in an 11 yr old in Israel, and this has been said to be “causing concern” here as well. This “visit” could be a moot point depending on how fast this spreads and if our vaccines can keep this variant at bay, too.
I don’t think they should start packing just yet.
I was thinking the same exact thing!!! H & M sneak in a visit with grans and the media go nuts and all you hear from the states is crickets and three MAGAs showing up to grunt with the Keenbridges. I am putting this idea in to the universe so it happens.
I mean, maaaaaybe if they do some hands-on service project on an Indian reservation or inner city housing project … Something where they dig in and get disheveled with a smudge of dirt on their face. Maybe work feeding wilderness firefighters… something completely unexpected that doesn’t involve wiglets.
But they won’t. It will be Met Gala-level stuff. It will be utterly boring and predictable.
Well, this was Kate’s reaction to a charity worker telling her to keep wrapping when wrapping presents during the 2014 NYC visit. The spin at the time was against the charity worker giving orders to a royal. Charity worker should have been praised.
https://vine.co/v/O6BhFAhwWig
LOL that you mention wiglets and Wig is at the end of the link.
@AGreatReckoning imo that will forever be the most iconic moment Kate will have in the United States. She’ll never be able to overcome it so she shouldn’t even try. She didn’t even TRY to conceal her contempt for this American peasant daring to tell her what to do.
Followed quickly by the hot pink coat to the 9/11 memorial. If they’re smart, they’d stay away from NYC and maybe they could pull off DC without *too* much humiliation? But they’re not smart, and they’re arrogant enough to think New Yorkers will adore them.
If they really have been planning this trip for months, that means they were waaaaaay angrier than any of us even imagined when the Sussexes took NYC by storm, lol. I’m so glad Harry and Meghan’s trip happened when it did, before Bill and Cathy could try their “charm offensive” (lmfao) on Americans, and particularly New Yorkers.
The charity worker was a black woman so more context on Kate feeling she could show that look of contempt after being asked to do some work.
Yes, Kate (famous by the BM for not putting a foot wrong yet famous for putting a face wrong-Commonwealth 2020 a big one) has been excused for everything. The eye roll is who she is. There is no look of contrition. Just irritation. Sorry girl, you’re not that special. Rude is the proper adjective.
Lebron James. I’m not reacting to the specific posts. My comment is that back then the BRF? didn’t respond/react until they received negative reaction from Mr. Pissy Morgan’s comments about Lebron having his arm over Kate’s shoulders and touching her/breaking nonsensical protocol. Mr. Pissy seemed rather concerned that a sweaty (he didn’t say it but I will) black American basketball player touched a royal. If it was a popular white male celebrity like Channing Tatum, Chris Hemsworth, Mark Wahlberg, Hugh Jackman, Liam Neesom from 2014…Mr. Pissy would have been all cool beans about it.
I can’t wait for a real, American journalist to interview them. Even a morning show journalist would be better than the U.K. sycophants.
Not on the Today Show. They seem to have a fondness for the putrid royal experts-so they would probably be sycophantic. Stopped watching them a while back when Tominey was considered their “royal expert”.
Lmao, I’m sure the Sussexes are losing sleep over this…
Alexa: Play ‘Shook Ones’
Hahahaha! Shaking in their boots are the Sussexes.
Idiots. Do they really think the US press will not ask about the Sussexes? Until they patch things up with Harry and Meghan and GO to Monticeito this will be a bust.
That’s what I’m saying. The whole trip will be overshadowed by the Sussexes anyway. The same people who claim to be Cambridge supporters will be foaming at the mouth at the prospect of leaks and pictures of a reunion.
I mean the rr can grow up. Cain and Unable can come to NY and it isn’t going to matter to the Sussex one way or another. The only reason to frame this as damaging to Harry is that is the only way they get attention. They are a flop at home and at best they will flop here and at worst the media here might do real damage and deservedly so.
Lol: “Harry and Meghan have made the US their home and their target audience.”
H&M don’t have a target audience. They live their lives and because they’re naturally charismatic and do actual tangible good works, people are just naturally drawn to them. It’s W/K who long for an audience, and we all know how that kind of sweaty desperation plays out.
They’re very angry about that. They pushed them away and made their fears into a reality. Literally a self fulfilling prophecy.
@Nicki, exactly, and to the extent that they do have an “audience,” it’s the whole world, not just the US.
America just happens to be where they’re based.
What? This is Meghan’s home. Her husband just happen to be British and decided to move here too when his wife decided she wanted to go home. What a bunch of idiots.
Here’s a thought. The reason why so few British personalities make it over here is because they don’t understand the culture.
A British accent gets you only so far. They should ask their pal and spokesperson Piss Morgan
@nina, uhmm, Harry’s wife didn’t just decide she wanted to go home. Harry got them the hell outta there because he didn’t want history repeating itself with another woman he loves and seeing her end up dead. Smear campaigns, racism and other abuses can have that effect.
How is it part of their royal duties to visit the US?
they still think we’re their colony. Someone ought to tell them about the American revolution…
Right?!! Don’t they have a bunch of their commonwealth countries about to jump ship to which they had better turn their attention?
@ Chaine, Canadian here. As part of the Commonwealth, we don’t want a visit either. Last time they visited Canada, it cost us tax payers over $800,000 in security and hospitality costs for a mere three days of them being here, and I still don’t know the reason, but no, please keep these asshats away from this country too.
@Kelly – ITA.
If I had my way we would have left the commonwealth a long time ago. There is no need for a Govenor General or any other “dignitary” here in Canada to be a representative of the Queen, nor should she be on our money.
We have plenty of deserving Canadians we could bestow that honour upon.
*STANDING OVATION*
I hate that we still have the monarch as our head of state – Im so done!
As an Australian, I totally agree. It’s ridiculous at this point. We need another referendum.
They always visited Canada before, for logical reasons. Now, after they forced H&M out, they want to come here and stalk them. In New York, supposedly “Diana country,” whatever that means. It’s bizarre. William isn’t even planning to visit his brother.
He is a future king, not THE future king. That would be Charles.
What the hell is Duncan Larcombe smoking?? Must be the good stuff to make him so delusional. NEWS FLASH: No one gives a sh*t about William and Kate here. They will not “go down a storm” or whatever stupid colloquialism you want to use. If they actually get their act together enough to come here on a tour I hope they get tomatoes thrown at them in the streets. And as a native NYer, my advice is to stay the hell away from NYC….trust us, you don’t want this smoke.
Whatever he’s smoking has given him amnesia. Nobody here will forget the Oprah interview. And the US media is just as insatiable in its own way as that of the UK. Well before W&K hit the tarmac, the media will be filled with “Reflections on the Oprah Interview”, reruns of the Lifetime movies, commentaries on racism and mental health, and great ponderings on “How To Heal The Royal Rift.”
That’s the hornet’s nest they’ll be walking into.
So weird that they’re stuck on our (American) obsession with Kate back ten years ago, based in her looks and her “middle class” roots.
Now she’s older, her looks are gone because she’s not a nice or kind or charismatic person, she’s just empty and spiteful with fake smiles plastered on her face in a cheap imitation of charisma.
Oh and I finally figured out her pink coat. She was cospalying Jackie O at her iconic tragedy. Like Melanie tried to do at Cheeto’s fake inauguration. As if.
Oh goodness YES! I see that now, too. Also, in one of the pics, I noticed for the first time that her lady in waiting behind her is wearing a black skirt, gray jacket and a PINK scarf at her neck that matches the pink coat exactly.
Cosplaying Jackie O when her husband was being shot dead…damn, that’s cold.
Are you kidding? We’re lucky we were all spared the sight of Kate re-creating JFK and Jackie O’s fateful ride to Dallas, TX in a convertible (complete w/ Kate’s Phillip funeral veil), all the time with twin towers falling around them during their last U.S. tour. Such is Kate’s thirst for attention.
They were only even exciting in 2011 because they had just gotten married. That was the only reason anyone cared. Of course nobody’s going to care now, lol.
So to me its kind of ironic, right? They were exciting to me in 2011 because they had just gotten married and I was excited to see what kind of royal Kate was going to be, what would she do with her platform, thinking about what I would do with it, etc.
Then……nothing. she was lazy and boring and wore too many coatdresses and it was just meh. The excitement fell flat.
Enter Meghan, who is hardworking and engaging and exciting and INTERESTING to follow and I definitely had a feeling of, “oh this is what I expected from Kate and never got.”
So Kate’s own boring-ness and laziness made Meghan that much better, in my opinion, not just bc of the contrast, but because Meghan was what I had thought kate would be more like.
If Kate had been less lazy overall (pre-Meghan) and then less jealous and petty when Meghan came on the scene, I still would have been a Meghan fan, for sure. But the contrast would not have been so marked IMO. It would have been more like the contrast between Meghan and Sophie….meh, she’s fine, she’s a ford fiesta, they’re fine cars, Meghan is a lamborghini. With Kate it’s like….she’s not even a car.
Actually it’s pretty funny because I’d been following their story pre-dating (not hugely in depth but enough) and my first year of UK university (actually a month after I arrived) they got engaged.
The entire country went nuts in preparation. And I thought she was pretty and elegant. But I knew she wasn’t really going to do much, lol. I remember they said she was taking a long time picking and choosing her first patronages and she only chose like, what, five? I wasn’t surprised they fell back on the “living in Wales” excuse. Still, I liked her a lot more then than I do now.
Meghan was mind-blowing in comparison. I never ever thought in a million years any one of them would have fallen in love with someone like her (with good reason very sadly as it turned out). But it makes it even sweeter that they are flourishing so much outside that environment!
I hope they come to LA, just so they can feel the contrast a decade of being lazy has earned them. I lived not too far from the home that hosted Wills and Kate in Hancock Park, and I remember a lot of media helicopters hovering. I cannot imagine in a million years they would get the same reception now.
@Becks1 said:
“Enter Meghan, who is hardworking and engaging and exciting and INTERESTING to follow and I definitely had a feeling of, ‘oh this is what I expected from Kate and never got.’
So Kate’s own boring-ness and laziness made Meghan that much better, in my opinion, not just bc of the contrast, but because Meghan was what I had thought kate would be more like.”
While I understand the points you are trying to make, I have to counter that you couldn’t have expected from Kate what we’ve seen Meghan accomplish. Meghan is extraordinary and unique, particularly in her approaches to getting things done.
None of us knew what to expect from Meghan, and we still don’t. That’s one of the reasons why the Sussexes garner such enormous global interest. Meghan has constantly surprised us with her ideas and her work ethic that arise naturally out of her character and from how diligently and cleverly she utilizes the life lessons she’s learned. We have been continually surprised and fascinated by M&H’s every move, both collectively and individually.
Meg started working as a senior royal even before she was married, bringing compassion, relatability and creative ideas to help the women of Hubb Community Kitchen. #Compassion in Action! Look back at all Meg accomplished in her two years as a working senior royal, and imagine how much more she was prevented from achieving due to jealousy, racism, and the smear campaign.
Therefore, I would think you more aptly mean, you expected Kate to want to work, to want to use her huge platform, and to actually be a better, more proactive, and less selfish person. Kate could never be like Meghan, not in anyone’s wildest dreams. Kate is inauthentic, insecure, incompetent, uncaring, and lazy.
I agree that Meghan entering the royal firm is what fully revealed Kate’s sad, true colors.
These RR’s are delusional. They are literally pushing their delusions and revenge fantasies on a couple that is not thinking about them. They don’t care about the Cambridge’s at all and if they do come over here, it’ll be made about the Sussexes anyway. Why they visit California?, Will the make up? Etc. I’m starting to think that the purpose of a tour is about getting access to the Sussexes. There is a level of desperation with these experts and the RF. Something about this is very forced and desperate.
That’s what I think too. If the Keens come over here to the US then they have to take the rota with them. The rats think they’ll be back on American TVs giving their expert opinions and are hoping to get some access to the Sussexes.
I absolutely think the family is being pressured behind the scenes to get the Sussexes over to the UK and nothing has worked. So now they want the family to go to them. The problem is that the RR’s aren’t getting access no matter what happens. I didn’t realize the lengths some will go for access and proximity to this couple. The Cambridge’s are jealous and competitive and want respect/popularity in the US but they’re clearly being pressured to be more Sussex like and to get the press access to Sussexes.
I think you’re right Brit, that’s why we’ve been hearing for months about Christmas, the christening, the Diana reception, the Diana Awards, the jubilee next year – there is enormous pressure to get the Sussexes back to the UK and the Sussexes are not biting. So now the focus is on getting the Cambridges to the US – but that still won’t get the press access to the Sussexes. Harry is not letting the British press anywhere NEAR his children or his wife at this point.
Or more so, I think the RR want wills or one of their team to snap a picture of Lilli so they can make money. That is the only reason they want the lames to come to the US without an invitation and not being heads of state.
I think that is exactly what they want, access to the Sussex family.
Well, this might be as close as they get. The sussexes will not play with the Cambridges, esp. if they bring all the RR along for their American tour, which surely they will. But they will get a lot of attention bc everyone will want to ask them about the sussexes and see what they say. It’s the only way they can get attention and clicks now so it’s the best they can do. Will it possibly be embarrassing and mortifying for Will and Kate? Hell yeah. But that’s the price they gotta pay now after so successfully bullying the sussexes out.
Zzzzzz.
The projection from this guy. The same guy who said the sussexes with 2 young kids and jobs should travel to the Uk but William could travel but but but is too busy blah blah.
He’s trying to stir s**ht up because this is what he wants so he can write more stories and fan fiction.
they’re popular with the same crowd here as they are in the UK: MAGS/Trumpies/old people. I think their effort to “win” my generation will be just as futile here as it is there. they really shouldn’t have foster this us vs them situation cause we want them.
Not only does this appear to be “stalkerish” but almost comes across as being a bully too. I agree with @Jane. They will have to face questions by the American media they may not want to face. They won’t answer them of course. They forget that the American media doesn’t have a “gentleman’s agreement” with the BRF nor is People magazine our sole source of information.
I too think this may a visit to NYC and maybe a few pit stops before jetting back home.
Wills and Kate would be wise to spend energy back home and on their charities like a FFK and FFQC should.
I agree they should put more effort in their home turf. Because they are doing a half assed job where they go ama for a while then show up randomly to events. The queen is older than them and she does more function than W & K. If they are the future monarchy they need to step up their game in their home turf once they have that ground covered then expand. Its like they are playing a terrible game of monopoly where they want all the properties but do not have the funds to keep them.
LOLOLOLOL.
First – the old bit about New York being “Diana territory” – there’s such a misunderstanding to this DAY among the royal family about Diana’s appeal. Yes, her youth was part of it. Yes, her glamour was part of it. But her warmth and charisma and her actual WORK were the real core of it. We love glamour and youth and beauty here in the US. But we have lots of that. The reason Diana is still so beloved for many is because of her actual work. Oh, and because we don’t like how the royal family treated her.
So if we’re considering glamour, beauty, charisma, work, and oh, poor treatment from the BRF – the royals who fit that bill are already here and have already “taken” NYC, thank you very much. We’re good.
Second – I don’t know what they think will happen with a royal tour from these two. Their tours are more memorable for what goes wrong than what goes right, or at the bare minimum, Kate’s clothes, which are usually boring, even on tours. I can remember Kate asking if they still made Faberge eggs (that may have been a day trip), Kate saying “how interesting” when told of how children maimed themselves, being carried in the Solomon Islands, and her floral two piece dress at a concentration camp.
I don’t remember their 2014 royal tour in NYC being this triumphant…..what? takeover? I think most people didn’t even pay attention to it.
the thing the royals and the rota can’t seem to understand is that we like princes and princesses here in the US. We like tiaras and palaces and beautiful gowns. We like money. But we also like people who work, we LOVE a good bootstraps story, and we love someone who says “eff you” to “the man” and makes their own way and carves their own path. So with H&M, we still get the prince and princess, we still get beautiful gowns, their palatial house in Montecito, the money, the glamour, AND the own-path part of the story.
How can the Cambridges compete?
They can’t compete, and they have no comprehension of how the U.S. perceives monarchies, especially the British monarchy. Haven’t they seen “Hamilton?” Lol.
Do they actually think we don’t remember that Meghan’s country of origin was one of the “reasons” they hounded her to suicide ideation?
Come on over, Cambridges, please do. We have a few matters to discuss.
This 👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼
Well said @Becks1 & @merricat
Wasn’t the 2014 NYC also the one where kate and William posed with Lebron James and she looked afraid to have physical contact with a famous black athlete?
Love Lola love tweeted a while back that she was in NYC during that tour and she noticed that the hotel where they were staying at had barricades but no crowds.
The Cambridges never got large crowds in any US tour and that was before the Oprah interview happened. They are never going to get crowds like they once did in the Australia tour with baby George. They just don’t have the star power.
@Nic, it sure was! LeBron put his very sweaty arm around Kate for a posed photo, and her stans freaked out at the audacity. Meanwhile, Kate was the one who kept a warm wool coat on throughout an entire basketball game, and those arenas are not cold when they’re packed with people.
I went over to the Carlyle to see them when they first arrived, and there was a decent number of people waiting outside, but they just flew by in their Range Rovers and were then whisked right into the hotel, and there were definitely no more crowds after that first night. The anticipation of their arrival was more exciting than the actual visit, IIRC.
Lol….hope they come to NY so we can booo them. We love our girl Megs.
PS: I live one block from the restaurant in Harlem they visited and she is a vision. Meg is more beautiful in person, beautiful skin and sweet smile. Harry is handsome too but we loooove Meg here.
I’m here for this. The boos and the chants of “Go home racists!”
The former president just got cussed out when he visited Trump tower a few days ago. There were so cuss words shouted at him, the attempts to bleep it out made the audio sound like a school bus backing up.
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!
Lol they’re fools if they think Meghan and Harry gives a crap about their tour and affairs in the US. No matter how many ‘good’ articles they make come out, it is a fact their popularity is rock bottom and now they’re trying to salvage it following in M&H steps (and failing cuz lol they’re not them and have near to zero charisma).
Can’t wait to hear the boos, and chants of Harry! Meghan!! Can’t wait.
But the keens hate everything American. Why would you ever want to degrade Your royal keenness status and visit AMERICA? No no . Absolutely not. We are royals not celebrities. These people are pathetically desperate for Americans to want to worship their racist lazy snobby asses.
Right. Then have a story pulled about having a tradional English pub garden lunch eating a burger at a pub that may not have been a “traditional English pub” but an American one. See, now, I want to see them having an English “traditional” meal of fish & chips. We could then call them Future Future King Cod & Future Future Queen Consort Codpiece.
The Cambridges want American crowds to come out and fawn over them for merely existing. The Sussexes get crowds at events because they DO THE WORK. Americans loved Diana because she did the work. She put herself out there to advocate for people. The Cambridges will be highly disappointed when they realize that we here in NY on the woke East Coast don’t care about a bunch of work-shy monarchs that lack substance and style….
And Keen and Unable are too stupid to see that Harry’s reputation in America works in his favor is because he put in the work ( he has the numbers of a former President and First Lady Obama, current President and First Lady Biden, and American institution Oprah Winfrey; he also took seriously the importance of stateside connections and money which is why the Invictus Games were going to be in Florida before the pandemic
hit). Then he met, fell in love and married and had children with an American woman and had no problem uprooting to her home country so she would not have to endure pain.
That is why Harry is popular here. We have been paying attention more than Cain and Unable think.
I hate how the monarchy is co-opting Diana when they literally slandered her and attacked her for her work. She was harassed for fighting against landmines and fighting for HIV and AiDS patient visibility. RR and the royal family called her horrible names for being kind to black and brown people. This whole oh we are Diana’s legacy in the royal family is sick. They hated her and she despised them. Kate and Will are both the exact opposite of Diana.
Diana was gaslighted and accused of lying. Same as the bots do to Harry and Meghan. But then oddly enough they go say Diana would be Disappointed not realizing or not wanting to realize Diana was put through the same thing.
An East Coast Tour Itinerary Suggestion:
Tour Boston – I hear they throw a great Tea Party!
Hahahaha
LOL!
Great idea, but mostly because I, a Bostonian, would love to show up to heckle them
Just so long as they don’t try to showcase their environmental consciousness and take a boat, Boston has a bit of a history with British government ships (see: HMS Gaspee).
They’re really misreading the room – Americans like royalty when there’s some glamour and a compelling story. We really could not give a shit for the British media’s obsession with royal sErViCe. To us they’re just going to look like a couple of boring white people over here to lecture us. William is bald and ugly and Kate looks frumpy and has bad clothes. I’m sorry I just don’t see the hook.
That reference to America being Harry and Meghan’s “target audience” is…irksome to me. Because I doubt that H&M think of this country as an “audience”. It’s probably just “home” to them, isn’t it? Calling it their “audience” suggests that the royals believe (or at least want the public to believe) that H&M moved to the US for the increased exposure, absolving the as-yet unnamed racist and xenophobic members of the family of any responsibility for bullying them away from the Salt Lick.
There is an old clip going around on Twitter of Diana with Charles and the boys around 4 and 2 years old. Diana has a rabbit in her arms and she’s trying to get William to pet it but he wasn’t interested. So she hands the bunny over to Harry who starts petting it. The second, and I mean the SECOND William saw Harry touching the rabbit, he started demanding that he get to hold the bunny. There is another one, around the same age, where Harry is in Diana’s arms and William was several feet away in the garden and Diana was trying to get him to come inside and he was refusing. The Diana said “Alright, Harry will have all the fun then.” Then immediately William started screaming “NOoooooooo!” and began running towards her.
Now, I know some will say, William was just a kid, sibling rivalry is normal. And that’s true, but William never grew out of it. And he’s taken this rivalry in his own mind to inflict as much emotional damage on Harry and everything he loves as he can. And now he wants to take his pettiness global. William is emotionally stunted in the worst way.
Agreed.
Yes indeed, he is. He was raised to believe he was special and that’s that. He is emotionally immature and approaching 40. Sad.
The fact that he didn’t want to pet the bunny is a tell-tale sign to me. I understand it if children stay away because they’re afraid, but that wasn’t the case here. You’re so right, “something” hasn’t been right with Willnot from the early years. The differential treatement as FFK while growing up and in adulthood, has escalated his bad traits over the years into the s$%^^ we now ses. Maybe that’s why his wife is so into the importance of early years? /s.
I think it must have upset William when Diana took Harry for the picnic lunch after William barred his parents from the Eton picnic and took Tiggy instead. He probably was seething over Harry getting the lunch.
Deliberately snubbing someone and then getting upset when said someone decides to take that snub and have fun with someone else? Yeah, that tracks with his current behavior.
From what little I’ve seen, William seems to always want what Harry has. He may not be fully aware of it himself.
Their last trip to NYC, not only did they look out of place ( the eye roll during the gift wrapping, the hot pink coat at a memorial for one of greatest tragedies on American soil; it can go on) but they allowed LeBron James to get dragged in the British press after the photo of them together and his hand on Kate’s shoulder appeared when they posed. All they had to do was sent out a one line press statement talking about how great it was to meet a future Hall of Fame athlete.
That was the end for me and it was not one bit surprising what they did to Meghan.
Lebron was just posing for a photo like they normally do but Kate gave off “omg a scary black man is trying to grab me” looks in the photos. That they went after Lebron for Kate’s racist reaction is very telling.
“Lebron was just posing for a photo like they normally do but Kate gave off “omg a scary black man is trying to grab me” looks in the photos.”
THIS !!!! She knew exactly what she was doing when she made that face.
LeBron didn’t even have to pose for that photo. He did them a favor and was doing a solid. Not one Knicks player came into the fold or they (PR team for the KKKeans) didn’t even bother to ask. It was their home game.
So service should only be in favor of already rich white ppl or is he saying equity and equality and championing those in need is not real service?
Oh please. This is just the ratchets itching for something to do. Going to America would give them lots to write about. I just don’t think it will be the triumph they think it is unless everything is minutely stage-managed to the second. When the Cambridges aren’t treated like the rock stars and celebrities they want to be in the US, when they don’t get the crowds, when the MAGAs talk them up, the comparisons will begin. The ratchets and the courtiers think they can stage manage a US royal tour like it’s 1985. They aren’t even considering the comparisons that will be made, the think pieces that will be written, or even social media. But again, the mindset of the courtiers is “Dispatch a random royal to win the love.” Just send a royal somewhere and the world will swoon. Um, no.
Right now, they are on course to show up spectacularly unprepared. It will be funny to see what happens when they’re asked questions they don’t want to answer, or they’re talked about on late night TV. SNL, Amber Ruffin, John Oliver, Trevor Noah are going to have a field day with them. Can Cain and Unable take it?
Oh, I can’t wait to see SNL’s take alone. 😈🤣😈
Outside this site, who in the US even thinks about W&K unless they’re in line at Safeway?
I bet the US couldn’t give a damn. They haven’t the charisma to cause a stir and they haven’t the intellectual clout to attract serious audiences.
Has anyone on here seen the black and white Earthshot photos they released yesterday? It’s pretty obvious they were in the back pocket for a later show, but I think KP put them out yesterday in an attempt to wash away the photos of real life Kate at the Addiction event.
Harry and Meghan aren’t trying to be ‘Royal’ at all. Total misreading of situation again?
As if NYC “belonged” to one royal hahaha. NYC belongs to no one, do the Windsors think they own London or something? Let’s not forget NYC was also where Prince Andrew took that infamous stroll with Epstein through Central Park. Of course the Windsors would like us to forget what Andrew got up to in his spare time in NYC.
I remember Kate and William’s trip to NYC in 2014, I think Kate was pregnant with Charlotte. They did get a lot of attention from what I remember but it was still early on in their marriage. The bright magenta coat at the 9/11 memorial… that’s when I realized Kate was truly useless and a word I will not type here.
That trial is going on in New York also.. if this trip of theirs does happen I cannot help but think it is going to be very very bad pr wise here.
I think Kate and William really feel they have the charisma of Diana. I really do. They are so out of touch. I see those People issues languishing on the shelves and having to be tossed out over the weekend.
Why would it be part of their royal duties to visit the United States? The US is not their colony or part of the Commonwealth. Nobody in America except MAGA is burning to see them. Why would the Sussexes be “rocked” if Cain & Unable come? All H&M would have to do is drop a picture of Archie and Lili and all of America will forget the Cambridges are even in the US. They better hope nobody reads Bot Sentinel and learns all those Twitter accounts abusing Meghan originate from them. If they visit the US and not Canada they will be so transparent…
Canada has no interest in having them visit. The last time they came they brought the kids (Louis wasn’t born) and even then the crowds were minimal outside of the welcoming event in Victoria, which was likely stacked with a lot of government officials and workers.
And do William and kate want to answer questions about the role of British colonialists in setting up the system that has lead to the murder of so many indigenous children? Maybe the FFK should give an apology that his grandmother has yet to provide.
Believe me, Canada doesn’t want them here either. I saw them from a distance because I was downtown (Victoria) for a dental appointment but wouldn’t have made the effort had I not already been there. This bullshite about how they’ll be rock stars when they visit the US is so blatantly a competition with Meghan and Harry that it’s risible. They will bomb in America, mark my words. The Sussexes got Time Magazine’s cover as ‘people of the year’, whilst Willnot gets a cheezy People Mag cover. An apt metaphor for how the Lamebridges measure up to the Sussexes.
10 bucks says the cambridges bought and paid for that People cover.
The timing of this proposed US tour will be interesting. It probably won’t be before the Queen’s Jubilee which is in June. It won’t be in the July/August because that’s when William and Kate take time off. It’s likely to be timed for this time next year to coincide with the Earthshot Awards but people have pointed out that it would in the midst of US midterm elections so the awards show may be pushed down to November/December. What’s not being factored in is that Harry’s book which comes out in late 2022. I think the Cambridges’ US tour is going to be overshadowed by Harry’s book, which would be poetic justice.
You know Harry’s publisher would push the book release up to the week before Burger King and the Nothing Burger pop over to the states, giving US reporters lots of questions to shout out. Will would not want to arrive here in the midst of new tea dropped by Harry so this will be a very tricky timing situation.
Also, really, with Britain in the Covid/Brexit toilet, why would a vanity trip to the USA be top priority? When are Betty or Charles going to check William on his ridiculous competition with Harry & Meghan?
@AmyBee, Tina Brown’s book is also coming, as well as another season of The Crown which will eviscerate the royal family and I think (?) focus on Diana’s death and the callous way the BRF handled it. They really need to rethink their timing…
@Harper omfg that would be DELIGHTFUL. That’s the one thing that might make people look forward to seeing the Cambridges here— the prospect of them finally being asked questions about the Sussexes by real journalists.
Brown was not all that kind to Diana in her book, she may also criticize Diana. The CNN special series on Diana. is spinning it to try to make Charles look not so bad. Penny Junor is a commentator on it. It makes it look like Charles “honored” his promise not to “see Camilla” after Diana complained, despite a lot of evidence to the contrary. Though Morton provided a balance with his comments.
I don’t believe Tina Brown’s book will be what some Sussex supporters think it will be. Hoping I’m wrong. Saying that because she had for a long time said Diana wanted to get her story out with Morton and wasn’t influenced in any way, shape or form. But, over the last 10 years or so, seemed to divert her intial stories, in a different direction. Brown has been crickets? with the recent BBC investigation. If she goes against what she’s said about her supposed friend’s (Diana) beliefs & thoughts 25 years ago…Brown IS a sellout to Diana’s memory…just like her son William calling his mother paranoid.
I’m betting Betty doesn’t make it much past Christmas, and a lot of to-doing is going to be put off in lieu of mourning next year.
Oh, maybe they can combine the 10 day Official Monarch Mourning Lockdown with a Covid lockdown to save them too bad a hit to their economy.
Oh! And commemorative funeral memorabilia might just be the thing they need to boost the economy. Because honestly, another Jubilee is not going to get the tchotchkes selling quite like an historic funeral will. Who wouldn’t want some nice, tasteful plates of Queenie’s face with a lacy black design around the edge? Or black handtowels with a glittering gold E II R embroidered on it, maybe a line of dolls with her trademark bright color blocking and matching cake hat?
This made me absolutely HOWL with laughter, it’s so pathetic and desperate. Ask Google if the Cambridges can compete with the Sussexes. 🤣🤣🤣 This is like watching Charles try to compete with Diana for attention, except the Sussexes are just doing their own thing and minding their business. Get a life, you idiots!
I agree with Kaiser, they’re floating this out in the media as a test. Will and Kate were welcomed back when Will and Harry were close and everyone saw William as Diana’s son as opposed to Charles’ protégé and nobody knew how truly cruel Kate would act towards her Black American sister inlaw. Fast forward 10 years and I also agree with a previous article that Will and Kate are behind one of the most racist smear campaigns of all time. I don’t know how Americans feel, but Meghan lived for a long time in Toronto, so when the BRF was cruel to her, we saw it as them being cruel to one of ours. So I imagine Americans feel similar. You can’t drive an American woman to considering suicide and leave her biracial children for dead and then gaslight Americans with your keenness that you’ll do any good there. You know, I hope they do tour the US and the US shoves it right back to them!
William is an opportunist. He brings Diana in for his own PR (like the little children writing cards to Nana Diana). Then at the same time, he uses paranoid in reference to his mother.
If William and Kate do make a US tour, that would be an excellent time for Harry and Meghan to take the children to England for a visit. A great opportunity for some snaps of the children with their grandfather and great-grandmother while William is not around to make a fuss. 😀
Margaret, great time for a Windsor baptism!
This move would be a thing of beauty. LOL!
I haven’t read all the comments so I’ve popped in to say purely for my own entertainment I hope they come to America, it will be wonderfully amusing God I hope it happens
I actually have a different take on this visit, which is that it will be fine. In the eyes of the US royal family fans, it will be good. In the eyes of most Americans, it won’t even matter one whit. In the eyes of Sussex fans, it will be a disaster. But overall, the impression W&K will leave will just be…fine. The press (like People and Murdoch-owned papers) will just paper over their awkwardness and mistakes and faults, so no one who isn’t a royal watcher will notice whether they are or aren’t close, whether they actually say anything meaningful or do anything real, etc. The vast majority of Americans will hear, “Oh some royals visited this week,” and that’s it.
But we who watch the royals closely will know this is basically William trying to have the equivalent of a Trump rally, in his “enemy’s” territory. We will see the narcissism, insecurity, bullying, and weakness behind this entire visit.
I agree with you, @Dee Kay. I will actually go one farther and say that the Sussex popularity in the US is taking a serious hit. I have seen several negative articles in Newsweek about them, which has been very surprising. I also read nothing but ugly, hateful comments on any story about them, good or bad. Its pretty discouraging to see people prop up Kate as so regal, so elegant, and see Will perceived as Harry’s victim. I agree the MAGA and Murdock are big fans, but it also feels like MAGA and Murdock are winning here in the US, too. I hope I am wrong and sorry to be such a downer. I have so little hope for good triumphing over bad, or kindness, decency, etc., winning the day. We are losing ground big time to the forces of greed, envy, hate, and white supremacy.
@BlueToile, I’m repeating myself when people bring up Newsweek – what once was a credible source with good journalists. It is not anymore and hasn’t been for a long time. Search the collapse of Newsweek, downfall of Newsweek, Newsweek and the Rise of the Zombie Magazine. And if that’s not enough, here is another read.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/14/business/media/Etienne-Uzac-newsweek-fraud.html
No, the Sussexes’ popularity is NOT taking “a serious hit” and I cannot believe Newsweek (which has taken a huge hit in reputation and reporting in the past few years) is being used as evidence. The royal reporter for Newsweek came straight from The Sun…of course the articles are going to be negative.
The only reason the MAGA voices are winning to you is because they’re loud and obnoxious. If the Sussexes’ popularity in the US was truly being harmed, they wouldn’t keep getting the reception that they’ve consistently received since they moved here. They wouldn’t keep getting so many positive reactions to their projects, announcements, and support of various causes.
@Beach Dreams, right. I think it’s an idea some want to sell that they’re taking a hit – not the reality. The Cambridges will not be taking over the US…we are not available for the taking.
I’ll believe their popularity is taking a ‘serious hit’ when anything they touch sells out (see the purse Meghan carried in their NYC tour), when their books don’t sell, when their documentaries are panned by critics, when they struggle to raise funds for vaccine access, when they’re not greeted by wild applause by ordinary Americans at public events, when the Vogue issues they work on don’t sell out at a record pace, when the organizations they work for don’t see their value increase, etc. Negative stories in tabloid-esque ‘news’ magazines don’t mean s*** nor do the bots paid to leave negative comments. The proof is in the actual impact of everything they do, and it’s constantly amazing how things they touch do incredibly well.
I am certainly not here to “sell” any idea that the Sussex’s are anything. Tiger McQueen, you make an excellent point that everything they do is successful, I just don’t understand why there is so much hate for them online. However, I am not on Twitter or Facebook, so my access to reactions is severely limited. I am just not in a very good place emotionally as we do see MAGA winning. They are setting up barriers to voting, removing or flat out bypassing election officials who won’t play their game, and they are already coming up with a serious plan for when they are able to take power in the WH and Congress again. It feels so hopeless that the Democrat party, the courts, and decent people still are struggling to undo everything from their last rampage. I truly believe this Sussex hatred is directly tied to the rise of MAGA, and not just in the US. The western world is on the precipice. I need to get dressed and leave the house before I become even more depressed. Sorry everyone.
Hey @bluetoile, I’m from GA and I hear you on how the votings rights are being taken. Not sure where you are but it can absolutely feel very crushing. I have my share of days feeling depressed and cynical too and I hope you’re okay. There is a lot of hate for them online but I try to remind myself that they have also inspired a very strong-knit and vocal group of supporters who have their back.
@Jais, you are a nicer person then myself. When I see posts saying things like their reputation is taking a hit or Sussex hatred framed in a certain way, it looks like an agenda to me. The hatred started with the BM/BRF when Harry dating an American WOC and who, through no fault of her own, other than simply being the charismatic, intelligent and hard working person she is, outshone the FFK & FF Queen Consort. I could be wrong. Sometimes it’s hard not to see the false concern when there is a post about a fabulous letter Meghan wrote and instead of posting on that thread at all-while Meghan was receiving very positive reactions from very well known names and commitees-someone chooses to post about their reputation taking a hit and how they are hated. It doesn’t add up in a good way to me. Reminds me of a poster that was trying to convince people that H & M paid for the Time cover because they “knew” that’s how it worked. Prior to that they were posting different versions of H & M’s reps taking a hit while being passive-aggressive with Sussex compliments. Referencing Newsweek is a big red flag.
On a slightly funny note-in a newsletter I received today-New York Mag is looking to hire a Diner at Large. You might have to be willing to eat two meals a night and other things. The funny part to me was if the Cambridges plan on storming NYC with the Keenshot Prize, the advert for the Diner at Large position included the name of the perfect venue-Keens Steakhouse.
Honestly, it would be better for Will to wait at least two years before Coming to America. Waiting out a year or two after the “bullying report” results and Harry’s book would be in his best interest. Preferably not coming to the USA is my choice. He should try having it where one of the non American founding partners of Earthshot live-France(I believe) the Aga Khan or Dubai the Sultan Ahmed Bin Sulayem. Or, have the awards ceremony in a country that received a prize would be a nice touch.
@BlueToile: One thing to get you out of your funk is not to adopt the Right Wing’s talking points, such as referring to it as the “Democrat” party. It’s the “DemocraTIC” party. You can’t bemoan the sad state of affairs, while marching in lock step to it.
The royals can spin things anyway they want they can say Oh the Cambridges were a huge success and have the usual stans on comments sections calling Kate a “goddess” and “just like” Jackie Kennedy (LOL). They thrive on spin.
I think you’re right. If they go to NYC and get cussed out by crowds out to just shout the racists down, the BM will likely have headlines about it being a “triumph” and how they “didn’t put a foot wrong.” In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re pre recording a Carnival of so called experts docu series right now and pretend it was made after the trip…and furthermore, i wouldn’t be surprised if they PAID actors to stand outside their events and pretend to be supporters.
Even people who don’t care about the royals watched the Oprah interview – the ratings were huge. I don’t think the US media will ignore that.
They think they’re going to to make an impression on the East Coast and New Yorkers in particular? Hahaha! I don’t think the impression they’ll make is the one they’re going for. They are in for a rude awakening. I love the fact that they are delusional enough to think that an East Coast tour is gonna help their popularity because it was Diana’s territory. New Yorkers, Bostonians, and New Englanders don’t play. Let the booing and heckling commence.
I can’t wait to see their reactions when real reporters start lobbing tough questions about their behavior and treatment of their American sister-in-law. I’d pay good money to see a reporter question why they are desperately trying to win points in America when everything they have spouted on record through their mouthpieces indicates that they are xenophobic, anti-American, and racists. They can’t control the media in the US and they are too stupid to realize that. I can’t wait! This is gonna be good. Stocking up on popcorn right now.
They seem to have this idea that the East coast still take their cues from England or something. It’s baffling. If anything, they’re more likely to get cursed the F out over there! 😂 Did they not see the twitter dragging tv writer and proud Baltimorean, David Simon, gave to the British in defense of fellow American, Meghan. He revived old anti-English slurs my Southern ass had no idea even existed.
Why is the press framing this over there as the Cambridge’s chasing after the Sussexes. At this point it looks like it wasn’t enough to get them out of the UK to get all the spotlight,but now come to the US with the main focus on “ rocking” the Sussexes? Like WTF? So we can let go of the pretense of duty and God and country, and see the jealousy and copying out there on full display. Meghan and Harry will continue on with whatever they are doing because they have obligations, deadlines and actual deliverables, and they are building their postRoyal life. It’s like the farther away from Meghan’s years in the UK we get, the harder the royals and the UK media are trying to hold on to it. Hence trotting out Thomas Markle during the Cambridge’s big pr push to attack Meghan, and dragging up Lilibet’s christening to show they still have some leverage with this couple. I don’t see how anyone would want or get involved in KP’s petty drama. Anyway, those terrible two can continue to play at whatever it is they think they’re supposed to do. Gowns, beautiful gowns,lol.
Pretty pathetic, right? Two grown adults (allegedly) acting like they’re still in junior high & trying to be most popular. Did they never learn that you can’t ‘try’ to be popular? Kids, and adults, see right through that. You’ve got it or you don’t. And these two ain’t got it. As others have mentioned, diplomatic visits–which is what this should be–have to be at the invitation of the government. Why would the Biden administration want to invite them? Why now? What would be the purpose? We’re all still dealing with a d**n pandemic & the aftermath of an insurrection.
WK want to show that they’re still king and queen of the prom.
William & Kate will do what exactly? They can’t even generate star power on their own island without glomming on to someone with higher wattage or creating their own embiggening projects. Harry & Meghan are beloved here not only because Meghan & the kids are American, but because Harry embodies everything we loved about Diana. America took notice of the BM’s disdain for all things American. We haven’t forgotten how they treated one of our own. If anything, the Cambridges and the RF need to be concerned about those Commonwealth nations preparing to depart the Commonwealth once Elizabeth dies.
Kate and William can take a private holiday or trip to the USA. They might attract the odd fan and cause security concerns. They can do an official trip, representing the Queen, who represents the state, but they need an invitation. I notice that European monarchs often accompany their government ministers on trade trips. They could come to promote British companies and trade in the USA. But if they just want adoring crowds and publicity, then they have to think of a reason for it. They can’t speak about a visit to the US in terms of a royal tour; that can only be done in other countries with monarchies, or in countries where the Queen is head of state, or in Commonwealth countries that the Brits used to oppress. If they come for the Earthshot prize, then they still should try to limit the carbon footprint and be environmentally responsible, so what is the point if they can’t make a big splash and have a red carpet in real life?
It would cost more to bring them to the US and to give out the awards than the awards are actually worth. They need to make the awards 10 times bigger to justify the cost of holding the ceremony in the USA.
Why don’t the Cambridges visit the Commonwealth countries and court them hard to remain with the Commonwealth? Why do the Brits allow these two jerks to squander their taxpayers money to exact their personal revenge against the Sussexes who have long gone far, far away from these two lazies? Just like Thomas Markle, William and Kate want to go after the Harry and Meghan to feel and look like they are relevant. They need the Sussex oxygen to make them alive. Poor Cambridges.
Maybe while they are in America, they could stay a few extra days and do a private visit with brother Harry. It would be a great way to meet their new niece. That is what any loving family member would do.
Except they’re not any loving family member.
Remember when Amy Robach of ABC News was caught on ‘hot mic’ expressing disgust on the networks decision to strategically quash the investigation into Jefferey Esptein and Andrew and an interview with Virginia Roberts Giuffre – Amy said, “Then the Palace found out that we had her whole allegations about Prince Andrew and threatened us in a million different ways,” says Robach. “We were so afraid we wouldn’t be able to interview Kate and Will that we, that also quashed the story…” The was exposed in 2019 from a hot mic three years prior. Interest in the british royal family sells for America media and that means the invisible contract still exists when the royals are outside of the UK. I’m sure when will and kate arrive, they will get full positive courage with a lack of questioning on tough topics and the british media will tout it as a success every step of the way. Kate and will not get back the full target audience, but they might get some.
That was then. That was when Wont & Kant were in the first few years of their marriage and folks thought they were the hottest thing to come out of that staid, institutionally racist, crime family.
In other words, that was before H&M happened.
American reporters can and will ask questions that the RR would never ask. But that doesn’t mean the RR don’t want to ask lol. Maybe pushing the Cambridges for an American tour is a way to indirectly get some of those answers. If an American reporter asks, the RR can still write about it and get clicks without crossing any invisible contract lines.
What happened with Amy Robach was before the newsnight interview and the oprah interview, so now American reporters asking softball questions would be seen as not doing their jobs at this point.
Agree 100%. The Oprah interview changed the landscape about the coverage of royals in the US and it can’t go back. And all the disrespect shown by UK tabloid writers toward Oprah won’t be forgotten either. She is a serious interviewer that they tried to diminish. Maybe it works for some British people, but in North America, even if you don’t like Oprah, you still acknowledge she is an excellent interviewer and a player in the media world.
Will they bring Uncle Andrew with them?
@ Julia, now THAT might win them some positive attention! Just drop Andrew off at the local FBI field office with a post it note stuck to his forehead reading ” With our compliments”!
Kaiser, love the top pic. Wild eyed Kate in her 80,000 pound necklace, chatting up the famous people. She cancelled engagements earlier in the day claiming sickness, while staying back to eat pizza in her room. But the chance to schmooze with Sir Patrick Stewart and others? Gosh, now she feels just fine.
I’m 99% sure there is no tour in the works. This is a fantasy cooked up by the courtiers & the rota. They’re looking to soothe William’s ego while also teeing up future stories. Reasons they won’t “tour” the US:
1. They’re really, really lazy, you guys.
2. With the Brexit disaster, I doubt UK taxpayers would feel good about a splashy tour, complete with a bunch of new (bespoke!) outfits for Kate.
3. As many pointed out above, they’d face questions about Harry & Meghan.
4. Tour NYC while Andrew is facing a lawsuit there?!
5. If they don’t meaningfully engage & donate where they go (& they won’t), the comparisons with H&M will be too embarrassing.
So when this tour fails to materialize, the rota will have created more material for themselves. Perhaps Meghan refused to let Harry visit his beloved brother. Perhaps William thought better of a “celebrity” tour & decided instead to work with quiet dignity on his future king lessons (out of sight, naturally). Perhaps Kate, teary at the prospect of not showboating at a memorial, nevertheless buttoned on bravely to show up for the Jubilee. We’ll see.
‘Buttoned on bravely’. I like that!
the bots keep going on about the “good old days” (LOL) when the Cambridges and Harry were Oh so close. RIdiculous.
The queen wears bright colors so people in the crowd can see her, I think Kate is trying to do the same.
I live in the tri-state area and worked in NY at the time and didn’t even know they visited. The idea that Americans care is exaggerated.
Maybe they can time it with the Kentucky Derby. It would make sense if they attended that and hold their award ceremony in a southern state.
The Queen would never, ever, wear a bright color to a memorial. Never. Only black.
Kate frequently dresses to stand out from all the other attendees, as she did deliberately with the disgusting pink coat. Everyone else in navy or black, Kate shows up in her bespoke white floral outfit at the concentration camp. Same at an event commemorating battle of Somme, and another war commemoration where she wore that ugly zigzag coat to stand out from everyone else is black and navy.
Everyone else knows it is inappropriate to wear those bright shades at these solemn events. Kate wears those other colours deliberately to stick out from the other attendees. That’s ego and famewhoring.
Damn, Baldingham hasn’t aged well. Jowly and bald. He and Prince Albert.
In this article, Richard Kay (unwittingly, perhaps) sets up the Cambridges for failure by setting them the impossible metric of outshining the Sussexes on their own turf! Why would you do that?
Why would you ever challenge a pair of heavyweights at something you know they are really good at and you are not good at? And we’ve seen plenty of sour commentary from the royal rota about the Cambridges attempting to copy the Sussexes and being “celebrities”, so even if they managed to put together some kind of half-assed tour to “charm” America, they could lose support from the diehards back home.
Plus, as I have mentioned previously and others have noted above, the American press won’t be gentle with them, and they can’t NOT do any press if it’s a charm offensive. You can’t just get yourself invited to a state dinner and then fly back home. And, for that matter, I don’t see how they can set foot on American soil but not see the Sussexes.
I’m literally going through every form of promotional media I can think of, and I don’t see them being comfortable doing a single one of them. Can they do a morning talk show bit that goes viral? Can they share a relatable story about their home life or their marriage? Can they poke fun at their own images? Can they be funny or witty? Can they admit accountability and culpability in racism and colonialism, and the treatment of Meghan? Can they go indepth on any of their issues in a longform interview or podcast? I think the answer to all of these is a hearty “no”, so I hope they don’t waste our time.
Listen, there are so many people in the UK who have never met the royals. Don’t the Cambridges have some small villages to visit to ensure they stay relevant among their own people rather than venturing out to foreign lands? Why do they feel they need to grovel and get American approval to stay relevant. What’s up with Maxima, Mary and the other European royals. Why isn’t Keen reaching out to them. Why isn’t William partnering with Haakon to do some vanity project? Oh, they know the Windsors are full of shit.
From what I’ve read, Mary and Maxima seem to be able to do some effective things and have influence in various spheres. I don’t see Kate as having any influence as a result of her work or knowledge or force of character. I don’t know if this is just a false impression, and I know that Britain is separated from the continent physically, but the British royals seem to have a bit of a snobbish attitude about the other monarchies, like they’re in a class of their own, which I guess they were, considering the reach of the old British empire.
I’ve read that they and the royals in general tend to stick to visiting the Home Counties, which are basically the areas surrounding London. Maybe they should focus on their own backyard and consider expanding beyond the Home Counties instead.
Yes, they stay where they have support from the aging white population. They don’t venture to the majority of the UK, where they’d be mocked and questioned.
Sure Jan
Maybe they need to drag the kids along…
George would be put up front and center if that happened. With the other two not seen and staying with the nanny.
Americans would be like “WTF” if they prioritized George and we didn’t see much of Charlotte and Louis. No one else cares about their precious line of succession, and it would just look strange and somewhat mean.
Nope, they need to leave their kids out of their desperate rides through the valley of petty.
Um, don’t they realize that if they come to the US it will look bad if they don’t plan to visit the Sussex family? Even if they only come to NYC, six months notice to Harry and Meghan would give them time to plan to meet them there. If they don’t meet up it will only make the Cambridges look even more petty.
just an FYI – today is National Count Your Buttons Day
You are not even kidding! LOL…someone is going to be busy and tired at the end of the day.
It will be like Christmas for Kate.
https://www.daysoftheyear.com/days/count-your-buttons-day/
Kate and William are very petty and jealous. A lot of the problems could have been stopped if she had denied the crying story and if they had both been gracious to Harry and Meghan. William does not show good traits for a future King to put it mildly.
@Tessa, considering how everything has turned out, I wonder if either of the Cambridges regret their actions.
Remember when that one New York woman yelled at Kate to keep working and Kate rolled her eyes? Anyway, that real a$$ New Yorker is my hero.
I’m trying to think of where the “safest” places the Cambridges could go are. A place where the majority of the locals will be excited to see them, where no one will come out to boo them, where there are non-controversial things they can do, and where they won’t run into any places/topics that could lead to gaffes.
I was thinking Charleston, SC: very old south, very aristocratic and into pedigree and hierarchy. They would definitely get some cheering and find some wealthy friends who would invite them to dinner and such. But those same people are likely to have slave owning ancestors, live in old plantation homes, and all of the historical sightseeing stuff is Confederate Civil War or revolutionary war (or both in some cases).
Maybe somewhere in Florida: it’s like the Midwest of the south almost, with lots of old people and lots of conservative people, but there’s still some diversity so it won’t seem super white. I wonder how W and K would do with Latinx minorities, would it look less like they’re using them as props and would it be less likely to set off claims of hypocrisy? But most of FL’s politicians are legit terrible people, and Trump is there.
Maybe something like NY or another big NE city would be okay. I feel like there’s a lot going on there and people are busy and apathetic, so while they wouldn’t have huge crowds, they’d also probably just be ignored rather than actively protested. There are less controversial historical sites to see and lots of charities and organizations. Politicians are pretty acceptable and neutral and are used to doing a lot of these kinds of greetings so it would be well staged with less opportunity for things to go wrong.
I feel like I’m trying to find a doggy daycare for an overly excitable dog with bathroom issues who’s already been banned from a few daycares for bad behavior. Will this place take him? Are the people and dogs nice there but not *too* nice and excited? We already tried this place and they said they don’t want him back. Does this place give enough night time potty breaks? Maybe if we broaden our search to anywhere within 100 miles…?
If they went anywhere near FL, Cheeto would demand that they come to Mar-a-Lago so he could use them as props in his never-ending quest to aggrandize himself. I’m not sure Will or Kate need that sort of press — although Cheeto would love it. And if they hung out with the Antebellum-worshipping South, without a brown face to be seen, their
press would be even worse.
Y’know what? I hope they do come to Charleston. Let Willie try his “very much not a racist family” schtick while surrounded by lily-white faces (and maybe African American servants to drive home the point). It’d be glorious.
I don’t believe the Sussexes care where they go. These two have the personality of paste, I don’t believe that they belies that these two are any kind of threat to their work at all.
This just reminds me that I cannot believe will and especially Charles hasn’t visiting them yet. Seriously! These are his grandkids.
Got some news for you, Willikins — nobody on this side of the pond gives a sh*t for you and your bony-ass wife. Do everyone a favor and stay home.
Oh please. As soon as W&K announce any tour and do anything regarding the tour, the commentary will be “What do H&M think about x?” Even from the rota. So the pretending that they’ll be able to outshine the Sussexes is hilarious because it’ll be the same rota that will ignore W&K and think of hypotheticals about H&M.
Let the lamebridges come to America. The question I have is what’s wrong with uk?. Is their idolatry not good enough foe them?. Are their royal watchers getting boring in the echo chamber?.
Is it just old willie wanting what harry has still. He and she are truly superficial pricks, ffk, ffq or not,
Maybe Will can make it up to Italy and have it there? Ya know, after being a poor sport at the Euro Finals and his team losing.
Hee. I bet Jill Biden can’t wait for another deep confab with Kate. 🤣🤣😍
A lot of breathless stupidity from so-called royal experts again. Isn’t Britain in a whole lot of economic trouble? Aren’t there issues that could be championed by the resident royal do-gooders? There’s no point in getting worked up by the prospects of a Cambridge visit.
When she wore hot pink to the 9/11 memorial I lost ALL respect. That is essentially a graveyard, and those royals get so uptight about ‘when black is to be worn’. That is when, Kate. When visiting a graveyard of hundreds of people.
You’d think that they would be the ones feeling awkward, given all the anti-American rhetoric that their palace has been spinning since Meghan married Harry. And why do they need to do a royal tour in America? Did they not get the memo re: revolution? I truly hope that their little tour crashes and burns. Let us all join hands and come together to boo them when they come:)
“Let us all join hands and come together to boo them when they come:)”
Why not? My friends and I went to boo Ronald Reagan when he visited Boston as president.
Wow so many comments. I’ve said before that I don’t know where the confidence comes from that W&K will fail. They won’t achieve the popularity and respect they are begging for, so maybe that’s a kind of failure, but IMO they will be received in the places & parties where the BRF is usually welcomed. They will act as trade enthusiasts and find British/American initiatives to showcase, and tout Earthshot thingies. All of this can be done with pomp and glitter and leave their existing fans and Murdoch MAGA and conservative users boasting about….something. This of course will have absolutely no affect on anyone else, including the dynamic-duo in House Sussex. So let them come, and let them go. Let them toot their own horn and believe their own press. We’ll just go on supporting and celebrating the real ones.
The Posers better tread softly here in the U.S. when/if they visit. We’re not like the fawning Daily Mail type bootlickers they’re used to. Step out of line with their royal self-importance and watch the fallout. Of course, I expect they’ll be well-rehearsed but still, it’ll be hard to ignore their arrogance and lack of charisma. Best stay home where you belong and where your subjects blindly accept you.
these idiots. even the royal reporters who denied racism being an issue argued that there was a ton of anti-americanism against Meghan. and now they want to be admired by america? everything that was said that was anti-american needs to cover social media and the news if they try it.
It’s so weird how the British Media are framing this, as if H&M deliberately went to America to set up a rival court to try and steal all of the spotlight from W & K
When in reality what happened is H&M where working hard in Britain and the Commonwealth and proving to be very hood at it, they were pretty much bullied out of the country With constant negative, nasty bullying stories against Meghan, Which she tried to endure and tried to keep doing the work that she was doing despite all of the nasty smears and slanders
They were basically forced out to find a sanctuary away from the bullying ,
W&K thought that they had won! they thought they had run H&M off with their tails between their legs, but now seeing them thrive and build global audience , they are determined to go over to try to destroy H&Ms peace, because they’re so petty and vindictive and jealous
They are the ones that are destroying the Monarchy with this shit