I’ve been sitting here all morning, thinking about how there’s not a lot of Sussex news this week and how that’s kind of a bummer. And then this happened!! The Duchess of Sussex made an appearance – live, in studio – on Ellen DeGeneres’ show! It’s already been taped and the episode will air tomorrow, Thursday November 18th. Here’s the clip:
A lot has changed since the last time Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex, was on the Warner Brothers lot. Don’t miss the rest of our interview tomorrow. pic.twitter.com/pBihJLf0um
— Ellen DeGeneres (@TheEllenShow) November 17, 2021
The clip is just Meghan telling a story about her old actress days, when she used to drive into the studio lot where Ellen films because she (Meg) was constantly auditioning. She used to drive a beat-up car and she used to have to get into the driver’s seat via the trunk. It’s very cute and she looks beautiful! I wonder if she’s there to promote The Bench, or perhaps some kind of charitable initiative or something. We will see TOMORROW! I’m so excited. (Ellen’s site mentions The Bench, so this probably is more book promo.)
Anyway, I love that Meghan is now free to do these kinds of things, like drop by Ellen’s show unexpectedly or do the NYT Dealbook summit. She’s in charge of her own image now, she’s in charge of her own PR. It’s nice to see her embrace a lighter interview too. Ellen was probably trying to get her on the show for a while.
Photos courtesy of Avalon Red.
Great that she’s doing an interview, but did it have to be Ellen?!
I like Meghan a lot, but not even she can make me watch Ellen.
Yeah, I really side eye this. Ellen’s reputation is obviously very well known by now – and unkind, bully. It’s not a secret, it’s not even an open secret. It’s a bit disappointing!
Ellen, has been Harry and Meghan friend for years. I love that Meghan is loyal. and may another side of Ellen. Ellen, has supported Harry and Meghan when they were still in England going thru Hell. Ellen, was also one of the first people to see baby Archie. I trust Meghan who has a good heart and would not support someone who was cruel.
Ellen’s her friend. Is she supposed to cancel her friend simply because Twitter canceled her? Good for Meghan for not letting an industry smear campaign turn her against her friend.
@Nyro, Seriously?! What happened with and to Ellen wasn’t an industry smear campaign!
Ellen is kind to celebrities, just not anyone “beneath” her
This is the first time I’ve been disappointed by something Meghan has done tbh.
I believe it was a smear campaign to end her show. I read the Buzz feed article and in my opinion, 90 percent of the complaints seemed to be from coddled folks from the Participation Trophy/Helicopter Parent generation, who think their boss is supposed to love them as their parents do. When I saw the complaint from a YouTube calling basically whining about not getting the A-list treatment when she went on the shoe, I was done. I think most people looked at those complaints and saw that, at worst, Ellen is a bad manager, has no idea what’s going on with her employees, and she’s rude. Big whoop. Welcome to adulting with a job, where we’ve all had asshole bosses. It doesn’t mean she’s a monster. Harry Weinstein is a monster. Bill Cosby is a monster. Ellen’s a grouch and bad at being a boss. People who don’t live on twitter can see the difference.
Poc’s are still working for Ellen, not everyone disliked Ellen as Twitter would like us to believe. @Nyro, yes it was a targeted smear campaign. Eventually, the truth of the what happened with Ellen will be reveal. Is Ellen flawless…No! Did she deserve her whole reputation ruin…No!
Shame on those people shaming Meghan for doing an interview with Ellen. Did you all shame Jeniffer Anniston, and every other celebrity that have done interviews with Ellen since the allegations. Sometimes we as people are worse than the so-tabloid journalists Prince Harry and Meghan are fighting against.
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The choice of Ellen is really disappointing. I won’t watch Ellen no matter who is on
My first thought. Lining up the salty ‘bully meghan chooses bully ellen for exclusive hollywood interview!’
They are going to find fault no matter what she does. I do not know much about Ellen but she has been a defender of the D&DoS when a lot of people were silent. Who ever she chose to be interviewed by was/is going to get a British proctology exam from hell.
I am just going to be happy that she is happy and continue to support her.
They are neighbors as Ellen lives in Montecito too, so it was probably an easy gig. Don’t most of the other daytime talk shows film in NYC?
Drew Barrymore and Kelly Clarkson are also in LA, I believe. And those two are not known a-holes and bullies.
Yes but most other daytime talk shows don’t have the same audience Meg is trying to reach (suburban moms). She’s trying to win over People magazine readers, which is smart because it looks like the BRF has People by the balls.
I can see a criticism of well tabloids are bullies and meghan has spoken out against them but she appears on a talk show hosted by someone accused of mistreatment across the board by her employees?
@Meg I agree, the DM is going to have a field day with that parallel.
I have no where else to say this. But I see adam driver and his wife doing work with h&m. Adam and his wife are huge into veterans works. And actors. It’s such a natural fit.
Adam Driver is a Marine and a veteran, he served in the Marine Corps from 2001-2004 and used his GI Bill to get through Juilliard. He had a medical discharge because he dislocated his rib cage in a mountain biking accident.
@MillieMollie ITA. I get the desire to do a fun & light interview (assuming that’s she choose Ellen). But couldn’t she go on something like Fallon or the Drew Barrymore show?
I’m a total Markle fangirl but I’ll sit this one out. Ellen is known bully who mistreats her staff. She’s a millionaire. Since she refuses to develop compassion or people skills she could hire someone who is skilled at managing staff. Or just like stop bullying her staff & pay them better for making them endure her bullsh*t. I can’t see past that. Hands down, my fave Ellen interview will always be Dakota Johnson calling out her for lying about not being invited to Dakota’s party.
I will say that I don’t care what the Daily Mail says on the topic. Meghan could find the cure for AIDS & magically stop climate change and they’d still be salty.
Yes, I agree. Meghan is a wonderful and lovely person and Ellen is horrible, she doesn’t deserve to have her on her show.
You just know that Ellen wouldn’t even look at Meghan if she weren’t a duchess.
I’ve seen a lot of bad things reported about most talk show hosts, but Ellen by far seems the most problematic. It’s not like Meghan can even make out at this point that she doesn’t know. It’s not like she needs Ellen to boost her profile and she can pick and choose, which makes this feel even worse.
Marcelmarcel yes that was a very enjoyable interview! Not a fan of Dakota or Ellen but it it was so funny
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You are going to watch the interview. Come on now. LMAO Stop lying.
@MillieMollie & @MarcelMarcel, co-signed.
Meghan is smarter and savvier than most, so I’m sure she had good reasons and thought this through. But it’s okay for us to be disappointed and not think it was the best idea. It’s a mild observation about ONE interview; it doesn’t change how much we love and support Meghan one bit.
Love the clip and story is cute, but just why Ellen!!!!!! Ugh.
Cute story, but I have questions! Why go through the back, why not just try the passenger side door? Much easier than coming in through the back–Explorers are kinda big.
I’m disappointed in this but not because Ellen is a jerk, I’m shocked that Meghan would do such a dumb interview format with such stupid questions. The clip was low brow and common…she’s a Duchess for F’s sake! I think she just jumped the shark and it’s sad. With the right management she could have been a global influence 🙁
@BeanieBean. Meghan’s car was a battered and run-down car so it’s not surprising that her car doors were jammed or broken. I also saw this comment on Twitter and I just thought people will always find something wrong in every word she says. The British media and the Royal Family will definitely show and give no quarter to Meghan.
So like usual it’s smear galore.
^^ @Beaniebean, I see other people in the media asking the same question. Clearly, since the car was beat-up, the passenger door side must have had a problem too. LOL!
It must have been very frustrating at the time, but Meg can laugh about the experience, after achieving huge success. I’ve closely followed Meghan since Harry’s protective press release, in November 2016, revealed they were in a serious relationship. Therefore, I know Meghan has publicly told this story before. See Meg’s Create & Cultivate interview on YouTube, (at an entrepreneurial conference for women in October 2016).
The old car anecdote is humorous, but also reflective of Meghan’s down-to-earth, hard work beginnings. Meghan has always been grateful for her success, and willing to share hard-won lessons learned. By now though, her level of notoriety must feel surreal.
Meghan has always been someone special and worth knowing. It’s just a shame about the continual attempts by jealous, racist haters to smear her character. It’s surely Meghan’s strength of character, as well as her strong bond of love with Harry, and the rock-solid support of her mother and her close friends, that sustains and grounds her.
Ellen was one of those that saw Archie newly born and also elen defended her publicly in her show.
Ellen is still a bully who treats people who are “beneath” like crap .She treats her wife like crap.
Yeah, I don’t have an issue with this. I know Ellen is problematic, but it isn’t as if Meghan is the only person going on this show. Tons of celebrities interview with Ellen. Matter of fact, here is a website listing allllll the people that appear on Ellen’s show, none of whom have gotten scrutinized for their decision.
https://www.allamericanspeakers.com/Ellen-DeGeneres-Show.php
@superashes — I said similar in my comment below. There is a LONG list of high-profile celebrities that have appeared on Ellen since the reports about her came out. I haven’t been hearing any complaints or wrist-slaps about their decisions to go on the show.
This was my thought as well and I’m really surprised by this. I really don’t like seeing anyone give Ellen the time of day anymore. I adore Meghan but I feel like this isn’t a good look to be going on a known-bully’s show when there are so many better options to do a light, fun interview.
I just hate when H&M do anything that could possibly feed the trolls.
Did you feel the same way when Jennifer Aniston was on there a few months ago?? How about Michelle Obama?? This is Ellen’s last season! Many celebs have been on this year to say goodbye!
@Case, this is how I know you’re full of S** and want to have something to say about Meghan. You’re being passive-aggressive @ Shelley poses a fair question, but I noticed you never responded. Michelle Obama was, in fact, on Ellen and about 40 other High-profile people. It just goes to show some people have a herd mentality. Every day, it amazes me how people don’t keep the same energy for what they dislike when it comes to others.
@Shelley Yes, I absolutely feel that way about Jen Aniston and Michelle Obama as well. Extremely disappointed in everyone who is celebrating her after what came out about her behavior. Doesn’t mean I now hate the celebrities who chose to support Ellen or anything, but I’m definitely disappointed in that choice.
@Lulu I just saw Shelley’s response, which was posted less than 20 minutes ago. I love Meghan and have a history of loving Meghan on this board. That doesn’t mean I can’t take issue with her actions occasionally, as I naturally do with all celebrities I love because we’re human and have differing opinions. Which I think is healthy. I don’t blindly love anyone, even my favorite actors and musicians. Please don’t say I’m full of s**t and other rude things for no reason. It’s hurtful and unnecessary, and just completely unfounded because I’m a huge fan of H&M.
@Case
The point is: you did not go on a rant abt Michelle Obama or Aniston when they went on Ellen. But you found the time to for M. You fool no one.
I don’t think there was a post on here about Michelle Obama or Jen Aniston going on ellen so I’m not sure where Case was supposed to rant about them.
@case, where did you voice your opinion about Michelle Obama and Jennifer Aniston when they went on Ellen because I can’t seem to find it. That’s how the term “Keep the same energy” was born because of situations like this.
@Charm my initial comment about Meghan appearing on Ellen is far from a rant, lol. It is an expression of disappointment. And thank you, Becks1 — I’m not on this site every day so I can’t say if there were posts about Michelle Obama or Jen Aniston appearing on her show or not, but if I saw them, I definitely would’ve expressed the exact same thoughts there, as I personally thought that when I saw they were appearing on her show this season. I was very taken aback to see them still treating her normally.
It is really exhausting and over-the-top to get these comments about how I “fool no one” because of my very mild comment. I love and support Harry and Meghan, and me having a slight different viewpoint from them re: Ellen does not change that.
@Lulu, As mentioned by Becks, I don’t believe there were posts about their appearances on Ellen, but I felt the exact same way. I don’t know what else to tell you, but my “energy” was the same. I very literally had the exact same opinion of their appearances and don’t believe anyone should be paying attention to Ellen after the allegations of her bullying came out and appear to be true. I hope you can recognize how utterly ridiculous this conversation is and how very rude you’re acting toward me.
I really don’t think we should be going “oh what about the other celebs?!?!?” here. Like it doesn’t matter. Ellen is a terrible person and a bully. Why else do you think her show is ending? If people have reservations about Meghan appearing on a show with a woman like that, they’re allowed to even if all the other celebs do the same thing.
I think it’s important to keep some level of sanity about H&M posts. We can love them, support them, and cheer them on (as we do), but for heaven’s sake, it’s gotten to the point of Canonization in here! They are HUMAN. They CAN & WILL make mistakes. We CAN call them on it when we’re of the opinion to. That doesn’t LESSEN ANY SUPPORT of them.
Please don’t attack posters for posting an opinion. Yes, there are obvious Trolls, and some not so obvious ones, but alert the Mods. How boring would this place be if no one had varying opinions!
She obviously feels comfortable enough to do this interview.
James Cordon isn’t known to be that great of a boss to his crew and Harry did something with him. I think every public figure has some sort of scandal.
Bringing up the other guests, which includes Michelle Obama, serves to show how the reaction to Meghan appearing on Ellen is far more vitriolic than any of those guests. That’s the issue here. Most people here didn’t even know they went on the show until today because it was a non issue for them to do it. But when Meghan does it it’s like she is committing a crime.
People are going to either watch the show or they won’t. And since it’s Ellen’s last season, the high ratings won’t even matter.
Yes, I agree. Disappointed to see this. And I do feel the same way about any other celebrity on Ellen. In my mind, as soon as I saw it, it felt like a loss of gravitas.
@Nic919 “Bringing up the other guests, which includes Michelle Obama, serves to show how the reaction to Meghan appearing on Ellen is far more vitriolic than any of those guests. That’s the issue here. Most people here didn’t even know they went on the show until today because it was a non issue for them to do it. But when Meghan does it it’s like she is committing a crime.”
I totally disagree on this. As posters, we didn’t have a medium to discuss these other guest appearances, so how can anyone claim to know how we felt about those situations? One of my favorite young actresses, Anya Taylor-Joy, was on Ellen recently. I didn’t watch because I was disappointed she participated in that. *I* know I felt that way, but it’s not like we discuss every guest on Ellen on this website. I saw commercials or promotional materials that showed Michelle Obama and Jen Aniston would be on there, felt the same way once again. Literally NO ONE here is saying Meghan is “committing a crime” by going on the show, only expressing that they wish she chose another talk show to attend instead. This entire conversation is making a mountain out of a mole hill.
@Case ITA with everything you said. If this was a post about Jennifer Aniston going on Ellen, yes, I would have said the exact same thing. But it’s a post about Meghan so idk why the roster of all of Ellen’s other guests is relevant here. The fact that you were called “passive-aggressive” and “full of sh!t” for merely expressing your opinion is gross. What is wrong with people?
It has bothered me for so long that on this site, a commenter, even a long-term commenter with a history of supporting both Sussexes, gets piled on if they say, “I love Meghan, but…”
People claim that’s impossible, it’s a dig at her, etc. — but it is not impossible and we are proof of that! I DO love Meghan, but I’m also disappointed that she went on Ellen. We should be able to say that without people jumping all over us as if we viciously attacked Meghan FTLOG. Yes, it’s true she gets torn apart constantly on other sites, but that isn’t the case here. At all. So it is a pointless comparison.
Her fan base will have more credibility as a whole if the comments are balanced, and not always 100% “She’s so perfect!!! 😍” like the Kate stans are. The readers here are all very smart and can tell when someone is a nasty troll and when someone who loves Meghan but isn’t in favor of one particular decision that she made.
Team Case right here. It drives me effing crazy when people act like supporting Meghan means you’re not ALLOWED to dislike anything she does.
After Oprah released the teaser for their interview, there was a story here about it obviously and in the teaser Meghan literally did not say a single word and so all we HAD to talk about re: MM was her appearance. I commented on her appearance and first made a point to mention that I only understood “revenge dressing” after H&M’s farewell to the UK events. Then in my comment I expressed my happiness to see that she had returned to the messy bun, and stated how much I disliked those tight, severe buns she wore while in the UK. And said I wasn’t crazy about her dress. And I saw a FLOOD of criticism afterwards in the comments, not just against my comment (although one critic quoted my comment) but against all the people who had anything negative or even mildly negative to say. One person compared it to the Daily Mail comments (!!)
After H&M did their first NY thing, some people here didn’t like her outfits (me included), expressed that, and it was more of the same; people jumping down their throats, acting/talking to them like they’re the freaking enemy(!!)
I personally see NOTHING wrong with criticizing Harry or Meghan. As long as it’s fair, valid, civil, proportionate, and NOT regarding something petty. I have no doubt H&M are SMART enough to have people around them who aren’t afraid to disagree with them sometimes.
One thing I like about this site is that the vast majority here ARENT sycophants, blindly supporting, UNWILLING to say anything that might displease even if it needs to be said…..those sycophant types should go hang out with some monarchists. They’d be in good company.
I think you have to consider who the celebrity is and why they’re going on the show, because they’re not all in the same position. Jennifer Aniston might be A list, but my guess is that she still has the strings pulled for her, in terms of where she appears. People who influence her decisions and tell her this is what she’s going, rather than her having all the choice in the matter.
Michelle Obama gets just as much of a side eye as Meghan for this one though. It’s almost like Ellen is awful only to people that she knows she can be awful to, and sucks the hell up to anyone of benefit to her, until they’re almost blind to the other side.
Both MO & Meghan have enough of a profile and control over their own PR that they really do have a choice in this, and they’ve chosen to raise the profile of someone who has a history of terrible behaviour. Behaviour that they both talk about standing against. On top of this, it seems Meghan and Ellen are very friendly, which should get even more of a side eye.
Everyone has both good and bad sides. It seems as though people get hugely defensive of any mistakes Meghan makes because they feel like one wrong move is going to prove that she’s a terrible person. In reality, everyone makes bad moves sometimes. Meghan isn’t constantly making bad moves.
@Case said:
“I just hate when H&M do anything that could possibly feed the trolls.”
🤪 🤣 Everything Harry and Meghan do, including breathing and simply existing in love together, feeds the fcuksh*t trolls and slimy KP derangers.
My goodness, the arguing in here over Meghan appearing on a talk show, is over-the-top! So what about Ellen’s reported problematic behavior toward her employees. I don’t believe any famous talk show hosts are exactly angels toward their staffs. Ellen has certainly paid a price for whatever bad behavior, real, perceived, or trumped up. Her show is ending.
If other celebs and famous people felt Ellen is a complete a’hole deserving of being ghosted and ignored, they wouldn’t agree to appear on her show in its final season. They all must feel they know Ellen well enough to either forgive or discount the claims against her.
@Thirtynine said:
“Yes, I agree. Disappointed to see this. And I do feel the same way about any other celebrity on Ellen. In my mind, as soon as I saw it, it felt like a loss of gravitas.”
LOL! None of the big-time celebs and famous people who have appeared on Ellen’s show in its final season have lost any gravitas!
Are all the people who complained about Ellen fine, upstanding people? Or do we believe everything they say because Ellen being rich and famous automatically means she’s dismissive and a bully? Perhaps Ellen is self-centered and out-of-touch with regular people. If so, hopefully she’s learned her lesson from what happened.
I have never watched Ellen’s show regularly. I’ve just viewed clips occasionally. So I’m just not caught up in the drama either way. Why not donate to any existing Hollywood staffing union, and get over this angst against Ellen. I doubt that she’s the worst employer in the world, and not even the worst talk show employer in the world.
There is an over-abundance of scrutiny and criticism against Meghan for appearing on Ellen’s show, which is sadly in line with the over-the-top attention on everything Meghan does, including breathing, wearing clothes, and closing a car door. If you don’t like Ellen, don’t watch. But stop policing Meghan’s choices. Monitor your own behavior and your own life choices.
I’m with Case we aren’t a cult or collective group of sycophants we can disagree with H&M moves sometimes. There’s no need to attack people just because their comment isn’t full of praise
I disagree. Meghan and Ellen have a little bit of history. She was the reason Meghan adopted one of her dogs. I can’t remember if it was Bogart or Guy. I think you have to pick your battles. We don’t know how many offers she was getting and she needs to promote her book and be seen as well as not just Meghan the victim but Meghan the joyful woman – the epitome of what Maya Angelou was talking about in “And Still I Rise”
We have seen Meghan torn to shreds 365/24/7 multiple times a day HUNDREDS OF TIMES. Some of us have vicarious PTSD from experiencing the pain and empathizing with her suicidal ideation. She’s found some cooling waters. You never know, iron sharpens iron. Ellen may develop and friendship with Meghan and Meghan’s kindness and tact could rub off. Remember even the apostle Paul was first a Pharisee named Saul who held folks robes while they stoned Stephen.
@801matriarch Paul also said stuff like “Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says.” (It was either him or it was written by a later writer and ascribed to him). I realise everyone is influenced by the culture they’re raised in. However, it is a radically different approach to womxn then the one expressed by Jesus, when he met the Samaritan womxn at the well.
A lot of Paul’s teachings were used to justify the oppression of womxn in the Church.
I still think that Ellen is a bully and I don’t think anyone should agree to an interview with her unless she behaves better. The only reason I don’t scrutinise other celebrities for appearing on her show is because I ignore Ellen as much as possible. So I only know about her guests if they’re reported on here.
I do see the logic of your argument tho. I just think you could come up with a better example than Paul.
This just goes to show how loyal Megan is regardless of what you may think of Ellen, Ellen was one of the first people to publicly support Megan and Harry when they were going through literal hell in the UK. Did Megan need to go on Ellen DeGeneres show to promote a book of course not but this might be Megan’s way of saying you know what friend I’ve got your back just like you had mine regardless. Megan obviously remember where she’s coming from and who is her friend when she’s in need so you don’t have to watch up to you that’s your opinion. I’ll be watching!
The problem is, just because someone has supported you, doesn’t mean they’re a good person. If they’re supporting you, sometimes it’s good to have a check on their motives too. I mean in Ellens case, I’m pretty sure she saw an opportunity.
If someone is being kind to you, and yet you can see around you that they’re being awful to other people, do you really still give them a pass because you’re not their victim?
I thought this was an old post. I thought Ellen was a thing of the past with no show anymore. Guess I was wrong.
This is her last season and she’s wrapping up the show. She still has a lot of other entertainment projects happening but she’s quitting the talk show biz.
Meghan will plug her upcoming holiday season podcast, and of cause will talk about The Bench, which comes out in 4 more languages this/next month. A nice Christmas present, sales will defenitly go up.
I love how meghan’s appearance will be on the same day as another certain someone’s 😂😂
The cheap tactics Tweedledim and tweedledee try to use on Meghan and Harry seem to be turning back on them and these lot dont even do it intentionally. Perfect!
Same day as who?
I googled, ’cause I didn’t know either: “18 November – The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge will attend the Royal Variety Performance at the Royal Albert Hall.”
HAHA. And depending on what time the show airs in some markets, it could air exactly when the Cambridges are arriving at the hall.
This kind of thing is hilarious to me because you know Meghan did not plan it that way, and its not intentional, but its still going to drive the Cambs insane.
Well, if anyone is going to make me watch Ellen… But, I do appreciate the room to just be light and have fun. I really need it these days and an excuse to sneak watch TV during the day. Which always gives me such guilt – I need to get over that.
DVR it and skip to Meghan lol (a “preview” of the interview will on the show today as well). That’s what I’m doing. I can’t stand Ellen, but I do want to see Meg.
She looks/sounds great in the clip; an excellent definition of “thriving” (two fingers up to Salty Isles!)
Thanks @Jan90067 feels like I should have thought of that. LOL. I sometimes miss the part of a TV show I want to see when the rest of it bores me. Yes to “thriving.”
She is just full of light and joy, my goodness! Too good for Salt Isle. Waaaaay tooo good.
I have said for a while that they will be following the “Obama” path….yes they are not Michelle or Barack but they are clearly being advised by similar people!
I am looking forward to have her promote Pearl as well….
She is the most charming and radiant!
I guarantee the Mail is going to try to pass this off as “rich Meghan pretends to be poor” or something like that. She is not trying to act relatable- she’s just being herself. And the BRF can’t deal that this ambitious American woman is so successful and enterprising and well-known when she didn’t grow up with a silver spoon up her ass.
Unlike anyone else in the RF, Meghan actually lived a normal life prior. She doesn’t need to pretend to have these experiences. The Keen’s pretending to be a normal middle class family is regal, but Meg actually coming from humble beginnings is a problem. Bullsh*t.
They’re going to be so mad on that island. They’ll talk more about this more than their future king’s tour. And I’m LIVING (like Meghan’s living rent-free in their heads.)
Well, no, the 68 million of us across four nations are not going to be ‘so mad’. The vast majority, dealing with a disastrous government and corruption scandals, climate change, Brexit, Covid, inflation, huge and ever-rising gas and electricity bills, low pay, medicine shortages etc won’t give it a second thought. About twenty royal reporters will get their knickers in a twist and a handful of bored rightwing pensioners might have a flap or two on the Heil and Excess, but the vast majority of us are too busy trying to get on with the incredibly hard business of living. Great Britain is a mess right now. Please don’t judge all of us – be we Jewish or Christian, Muslim or Sikh, Hindu or Buddhist, Afro-Caribbean, Pakistani, Indian, Ghanain, Welsh, French, English or Irish, Scottish or Korean – by a few sour old colonial types. It’s not our nation, and it’s not us.
@AndrewsNemesis, I hear you. I can’t believe this still needs to be said at least once a week on here! Most commenters here obviously don’t mean all Brits, we mean the racist, DM-reading, Brexiter types.
Having lived through the T*ump administration as a white woman in the US, it was so incredibly frustrating when people made generalizations about Americans. Yes, a lot of them ARE total fcking racist imbeciles and that’s how he even got to be “president,” but it was so hard to not have to shout on a daily basis, “Not me! I’m not one of them!” There were times I wanted to get it tattooed on my forehead because it was exhausting feeling like so many people were painting us all with the same brush and I felt like I always had to defend myself or people would assume I was one of them by default.
But I think that here on CB, most of us know it is definitely not all of you. Not even close.
yes Britain is a multicultural nation the Brexit crowd and the daily mail readers types don’t represent the whole country or the entire nation just like those toxic morning Australian tv talk shows that hates on H&M don’t represent Australia
Stop with dumping on England…Without salty island there would be no Harry or Megan to fawn over…
Wait, what? Why are we pretending that being on Ellen’s show is awesome? Ellen is trash and this is all part of her strategic campaign to change her image. Wake up people.
Oh I’m definitely not pretending Ellen is awesome just because it’s Megan. I don’t get it.
People can like her or love her but let’s not put everyone on a pedestal for everything. Humans are flawed. Just liking someone doesn’t mean all their decisions are great.
Ellen was a very toxic boss. I wouldn’t be anywhere near her show until ot unless she fully “got” it.
I’m open for people like Ellen to grow but this feels like a weird choice. I
It’s like they’re just going wherever they think they’ll get the audience.
Humans gonna human.
I actually really like Angelina Jolie, but if she shot someone, I get the feeling her fans would be like: Well stay away from her bullets.
I’m ridiculously fair. I like what I like, I don’t what I don’t. Me liking anyone will never let me make them exempt from what I think are poor choices. We shouldn’t do that.
@RY, I totally agree. I can see why Meghan might have wanted Ellen’s audience. However, she just talked about the effects of bullying and harassment on her life during the television event of the year.
Still like her, however, this choice sucks. She’s a human being, not a saint.
I love Meghan! I hate Ellen! Considering how unkind Ellen has been, I do not understand this at all. I’m sure there will be lots of write ups on this, but I refuse to watch. ☹
The rich always stick together…nothing new here…
So you haven’t read any of the comments, have you?
People can have whatever feelings they want about Ellen. The fact is Meghan likes Ellen, they have History, starting with Bogart, with Jeny and Anae. So whatever your feelings? Those are not her feelings.
Thank you.
I agree. Suppose persons were to cancel Meghan because of what the British press said about her? Persons have to be careful they are not being judgemental like the RF and Rota and tell Meghan how to live her life. Meg probably know more about the situation than is reported if she has a friendship with Ellen. All the other shows persons are suggesting, do you really know those persons? or only what you see on tv today until something is revealed about them too?
Thank you.
It’s not just being on her show, it’s making it look lovely, fun and heyforgetaboutallthenegativethingsellendid.
I feel like they are jumping on anything at this point without much thought ..I get that Meghan was restricted and had a tough time before and now she wants to be out & about doing interviews and promoting her work but this is the wrong call I wish they had been more selective.
You people are exhausting. You don’t get to tell Meghan and Harry what to do anymore. Everyone and their mom goes to Ellen. Now because it’s Meghan it’s some kind of earth ending event. You all sound ridiculous.
Also Ellen hasn’t been charged with a crime. There’s no justifiable reason Meghan should avoid certain broadcasters based on fluctuating public opinion.
Girl, please. 🙄
@SunRae, I get that you want to defend Meghan and Harry, but please do it without patronizing the people who suffered under Ellen’s bullying. No, she hasn’t been charged with a crime, but she still made her staff suffer horribly.
Thank you! @SunRae
Its as if some folks feel emboldened by the sh!t-water drinkers on Sh!it-isle to tell H&M, especially M, how to live their life and have their being in the world. Here they are prepping the RotaRats with talking points.
@Demi ITA. I genuinely do not understand how on earth people made the jump to we’re “telling Meghan what to do and how to live her life” (??) or “canceling” her when no one said any such thing!! A few of us are just disappointed that she chose to go on Ellen. That’s all. I don’t like her any less, ffs.
Jumping on anything? Ok, give me an example not including Ellen. Unless you count Time Magazine, DealBook, Global Citizen and meeting veterans as anything? That’s how I know this is fake outrage, just a few weeks ago everyone was wondering when we would even see the Sussexes again and now they are “jumping on anything”. *eyeroll*
@Jules — maybe you have this the wrong way around. Maybe Meghan is having a positive influence on Ellen. Ellen did some abhorrent things in her time and is undoubtedly aware, and quite possibly remorseful, about it. But because of Meghan’s relationship with her I’m sure some of her inherent “goodness” has rubbed off on Ellen. Meghan has swum with the true sharks, she can handle Ellen.
Would be nice if that were the case – that Meghan is having a positive influence. Also good if Ellen has made changes because of all the publicity during the pandemic about her behavior re: staff (as mentioned below). And I remember the positives around her coming out at the time she did (also mentioned below).
That said, I watched Ellen several times a few years back, and stopped, because I could see the mean edge in how she was interacting with people, particularly audience members, and in no way found her charming. So, not having followed all the most recent details, I also said, ugh, Ellen about Meghan’s interview (and while we’re at it, also ugh re: Michele Obama, didn’t know she had been on. Don’t care enough about Jennifer Aniston either way.)
And that said, I assume Meghan knows what she’s doing, especially if Ellen has been openly supportive of her over the last few years (I did at least hear the dog shelter story previously!) For one thing, it could be a way to counter the barrage of “she lied” publicity coming at Meghan from overseas, by showing her in a pleasant, friendly, lighthearted interview that people can relate to. May watch it, may not.
But for sure, I do dislike the sleeves of that blouse…
The rich stick together…never forget that…
Ok joan you have said that a number of times now
@Kkat, lmao
@Sunrae I don’t understand how you can say something like “you people are exhausting” to those of us who love Meghan and always have, which anyone can see from our commenting histories. No one has said anything remotely like it’s a “world ending event,” or that “Ellen has been charged with a crime,” or that anyone is “telling Meghan what to do.”
I am not being snarky, I’m just so confused because I agree with you and your comments here 99.999% of the time. I’ve been Team Meghan since day one. To say things like that about people who genuinely adore Meghan and always have…idk, I’m just surprised. I truly don’t see how you (and not just you! others too) made that leap. I haven’t read every single comment yet, but haven’t seen anything that anywhere near that harsh, just people expressing disappointment that she chose to go on Ellen.
To say that people like us, who agree with you most of the time, are “exhausting” because we disagree that this one appearance was the best choice is just…I don’t even know. It feels so condescending, especially from someone I’m always on the same page with!
She looks gorgeous and relieved. I’m hoping they’re happy and starting to relax, I’m sure even though this was obviously the best choice, that it has been a lot to deal with.
Cute! I won’t tune-in because I can’t stomach Ellen, but I know Celebitchy will cover it thoroughly.
More Meghan, what a nice surprise! I wished she hadn’t gone on Ellen though, I think they’re neighbors. Supposedly Ellen was at the dog shelter the day Meghan went in to rescue her dog Bogart (who she rehomed before she moved to the UK because I think he was too old to travel there) and encouraged her to adopt him, so they probably connected over their love of rescuing animals too. I don’t love the shirt she’s wearing, the sleeves are a bit extra for my taste but it’s nice to see her doing whatever the heck she wants, whenever she wants, however she wants.
It’s not like her team doesn’t know what we all know about Ellen. I never watch the Ellen show and will be at work but I’ll watch a few clips after the fact. I prefer content like what she did on Dealbook rather than this format but I’m curious. Maybe they’ll touch on some serious issues, maybe it’s just book promotion ahead of Christmas shopping .
Dunno if I believe all this, i feel like suddenly now that Meghan is famous Ellen has suddenly remembered their “bond”. In all the those years she was on suits and could have used the coverage, why did Ellen not invite her on?
LOL Theres always someone with some misinformed cr@p to spew. LMAO
I love this clip! Reminds me so much of her interviews from her pre-Duchess days! So relaxed and bubbly yet poised and articulate at the same time. I care for Ellen all that much but I’m excited to watch the rest of the interview.
All of this. I loathe Ellen, but she is the biggest game in town, and Meghan is clearly friendly and happy to be there. (I like Kelly Clarkson so much better, but she would definitely fan girl too much at Meghan.)
If she did Kelly Clarkson or Drew, the naysayers would say she couldn’t book anything more prestigious because, like her or hate her, Ellen is the biggest name in the game, warts and all. Those two, nice as they are, are not in the same league. Hollywood is a business and this is what this is. Also, regarding talking about her acting days, this is Meghan saying she isn’t ashamed of having been a struggling actress because the haters are always weaponizing her profession against her and saying she is Z list or a failed actress, despite being on a successful show that is still being played and she is still earning money from. Go on Duchess, we see you!
This clip made me smile! So cute!
Meant to say “I don’t care for Ellen”. Daytime talk shows, plus her rep, just aren’t my thing.
I don’t hate that she’s doing an interview in general. I think it’s a good idea and if she is out there being herself, it’ll make the media narratives less believable for the people who casually follow this stuff (those who have already made up their minds about her, have) because they’ll be seeing her and it’ll make the disconnect between the narrative and who she actually is more jarring.
That being said, and please don’t throw the tomatoes at me, I don’t think Ellen is a good idea. At all. She was exposed for being a bully and doesn’t have the nicest reputation at all. There were so many other talk shows (even late night ones) she could have gone too but Ellen should not have been one of them. I know they’re neighbours/friends but Ellen is a terrible person, point blank. PR wise I just don’t think it’s a good idea. Although I’m sure they pay their PR people loads of money and I have no background in PR so I’m sure they’ve thought about this so what do I know but this is just my opinion as an onlooker/fan.
No one in the real world cares about the “bullying” allegations against Meghan. Because for her supposedly being such an evil monster even by Hollywood standards, no one’s charged her with anything. Being grouchy and inconsiderate is not enough for normal people to think someone’s a monster. Glad to see Meghan”s in step with normal folks and not the social media mob.
I didn’t even mention Meghan’s bullying accusations so I have no idea why you’ve chosen to reply with this comment as it has nothing to do with what I said. *shrugs*
But don’t let me stop you. Keep going I guess.
Nyro, I agree with you. People need to understand Meghan and Harry do not care what those racist media rags has to say. I love the fact that they are living their lives on their own terms. You can support someone and not agree with everything they do. I believe Harry and Meghan are moral people and they so far has not prove me wrong.
Re: Meg shouldn’t be on horrible Ellen’s show… I have a theory.
I wonder if Meg, due the unfair coverage towards herself, is giving Ellen the benefit of the doubt regarding her negative press? I don’t think Ellen deserves that, but Meg might, due to her personal experiences. It would explain her choosing Ellen when it might backfire for her (Meg).
I personally think it is a validly questionable decision on Meg’s part, and I’m trying to understand her choice because it’s less savvy than usual.
It’s nothing more than ratings: Ellen is the top daytime talk show by a mile. Plus, the casual viewer never knew, never cared, or never remembered all the controversy about Ellen being terrible.
I don’t think Meghan needs to give Ellen the benefit of a doubt because Ellen’s problem with her show were covered extensively in the press last year, including on this site. Everyone acts like nothing came of it when Ellen’s feet was held to the fire over it, and she admitted she messed up and her show had a toxic environment. Don’t have to like or excuse her but let’s not pretend she didn’t eat crow over it and had to rectify it.
You know what’s cool about this interview … she’s just being herself down to earth and funny. I think a lot of people turned against her and H for the constant preaching about making the world a better place which don’t get me wrong is awesome to be promoting causes but if it’s all the time people feel patronised and can not relate. This is relatable light and fun
!!!! I’ve been waiting for them to do some light-hearted stuff. They’ve been in fight mode for so long that a lot of people may have forgotten that they’re both a bunch of goofballs.
Agreed! I also love how Meghan’s talking about her hustle/audition days. The BM always made it seem like her acting career was so shameful and gauche, so to see her own it, make fun of it, and look back fondly on it is very fun and commendable.
As for going on Ellen, I think it’s just much harder when you have a personal relationship with someone and it can be even more hypocritical and cruel to ditch them for your public image over what you know of them personally. I’m pretty sure M is still friends with Jess Malroney too, but she’s been very careful not to be seen with her. Our friends are falliable and flawed, just like us, and in real life, I wouldn’t ditch them if they made mistakes, but would hope that they learn and become better people.
I agree. It’s time for some lighter appearances to balance out the seriousness of the work they’re doing.
I see this as a fun thing, a way for Meghan to say I am taking back control of my life and my voice. Plus like I said down below. Ellen had Meghan and Harry back when an entire country media and monarchy was gunning for their heads so I can totally see why she would choose to be kind to Ellen because acts of kindness to you in the mist of daily abuse, is never forgotten.
Ugh no, I despise Ellen and won’t be watching. I’m surpised by this choice.
I’m not a fan of Ellen, or talk shows in general, so this is not for me. But this is an example of the kind of skills you need to have to promote something in American media.
Meghan is very versatile, so good at projecting confidence in any situation – she can do an academic summit, she can be vulnerable and persuasive in a serious sit-down interview, and she can do charming/ funny things for the internet, like with Melissa McCarthy.
IF Meghan’s sister and brother in law continue with their plan to “charm” the US, they might want to take notes for their media strategy…
Even if they did take notes, Willnot & Cannot just don’t have IT.
The Telegraph – “Royal family on alert as Meghan Markle confirms ANOTHER tell-all interview in US”.
I made a mistake to look at a couple comments. As bad as you can imagine. I will write a long comment there tomorrow after the actual interview because everyone will be real quiet with the actual facts.
Sorry, “ANOTHER BOMBSHELL tell-all”. Sigh.
Remember how they were going crazy ahead of Meghan’s NPR interview and writing a ton of nasty articles, then it turns out it’s all about Meghan and the illustrator talking about the book. I don’t know why people act like the Sussexes don’t know what the reaction will be over in the UK every time they make public appearances. Meghan could go to the opening of an envelope and they’d still freak out. I’m not into Ellen, think the View would be better, but aware of double standards. It’s not like she’s the first assh*le Meghan ever worked with.
Which is funny, because who associates Ellen with “tell-all interviews” or bombshell interviews?
@Becks MTE! Clearly they’ve never watched an episode of Ellen if they think this will be some hard-hitting, investigative type interview in which Meghan will “tell all,” lol.
Meghan’s not going to mention those people. They’re bad vibes. She already said what she had to say on that. Ellen is not for that.
@L4Frimaire, the RF automatically thinks that EVERYTHING is about them and it’s laughable at this point. From what I saw in the clip and read online, Meghan mentions that Lilibet is teething.
She isn’t spending her time focusing on those toxic family members, she’s moved on and is talking about her work and her babies.
The BRF look like fools for assuming this has anything whatsoever to do with them. Contrary to their belief, the entire world does not revolve around the BRF.
ugh, Ellen. But then, no one really gave Harry any flack for the James Corden thing even though they have very similar reputations, so eh. Kinda curious what Ellen’s ratings are these days.
Corden hasn’t been exposed as much as Ellen. His a-holery hasn’t been covered muchbby the media.
That’s because he’s a guy.
Sure, could be.
But Ellen is/was so much more powerful and famous than Corden. That protected her for decades.
Just out of curiosity I checked the episode list of guests Ellen has had on this season. She’s had all the same high-profile celebrities (Jennifer Aniston, Jamie Foxx, Anderson Cooper, Tiffany Haddish, even fellow talk host Jimmy Kimmel) on that she’s always had, so I don’t get the feeling anyone is boycotting her show. I agree that James Corden has been outed as problematic as well and there wasn’t much criticism for Harry’s choice to interview with him (plenty about the content of his interview, but not nearly as much about his friendship with Corden, as I recall).
At the end of the day, Meghan is human and she isn’t perfect. Like all of us she will stumble at times and make moves that might be a bit of a head scratcher. My take: She has friends and acquaintances from all walks of life. It hasn’t been a secret that she’s friendly with Ellen, and she has shown that she has the tendency to give most people the benefit of the doubt. She might be looking at this as an opportunity to show people her lighthearted side with someone she has an established connection and feels somewhat comfortable with, and that’s all. Nothing more to it. To those saying she could’ve gone on Fallon or Kimmel — I don’t think she’s looking to the late-night TV demographic and honestly, the people who watch Ellen are the audience that likely has swallowed the crap the BM has made up about her. Those are the people who already have preconceived (and incorrect) notions about her. I don’t think the choice to appear here was made without thought and consideration. I’m curious to see the interview in full and looking forward to what she will say.
Not a fan of her, don’t watch her show ever, but to defend Ellen, she actually, eventually, addressed the issues with her show, got thoroughly dragged, and had a ton of negative news coverage about the issues with her show, way more than a lot of men who have done way worse ( like that guy from Bull or that toxic Hollywood producer Rudin). People on her show lost their jobs who were problematic and contributed to the toxic environment and harassment , and she did the public apologies and restructuring, as well as saying she’s ending the show after this year. It’s not like Ellen got away with something scot free. We don’t have to like her.Even Oprah, the gold standard, has had lawsuits and she faced a lot of flack for some of her decisions, like pulling her backing of that Russel Simmons documentary. Looking at the studio audience with this appearance, I bet the demographics match that of the same women trolling Meghan, mostly middle aged white women. It seems like it will be a light conversation about her current life from the clips shown, to show her differently from the headlines and to show she is moving forward. I’m actually curious to see this. I also have to add how everyone was saying how Dakota Johnson ended Ellen, now look at her sexist statements criticizing the MeToo movement. People are messy and Ellen was rightly called out.
@L4frimaire, totally onboard with what you are saying. There is a lot of criticism that is being veiled as “constructive” in this thread and I am NOT saying Ellen should not suffer the consequences of her poor behavior and choices, but it’s like Meghan can’t put one foot wrong without a chorus of critique of how she should and must know and do better. She’s HUMAN. We don’t know what discussions or come-to-Jesus moments she may have had with Ellen — we just know what has been reported in the media and gossip blogs.
My thoughts exactly.
Won’t be watching. Can’t stand Ellen and refuse to contribute to her viewer numbers. I’ve never understood why it took so long for people to see how toxic and angry she is.
Maybe Meghan appreciates that Ellen was one of the first high profile people to speak up for her. Her and Portia visited H & M when they were still in the UK,i think they could be real friends. Just like i think her and Jessica Mulrooney are still bffs. Its not easy to just drop people ,all you can ask is that your friends do better.
I wish this wasn’t Ellen – but I am glad Meghan is getting out there and showing who she really is. It’s not going to be a tell-all, that’s not really Ellen’s thing, even if there are some new revelations. This is going to be light-hearted and laid back and I’m sure that’s part of the reason Meghan is there – for something that’s not Oprah but isn’t Jimmy Fallon either.
How incredibly dismissive of Ellen being toxic
The issues with Ellen’s show and the toxic behavior was very much covered in the press, she had many public defenders and detractors and she addressed it directly as I recall. It’s not like these issues were swept under the rug and she made changes to the show, which by the way is ending. Her show took a big hit from it and she issued an on-air apology when the show returned. Ellen personally may be very different from her on air persona, she doesn’t speak to valets, she does not have to be universally liked, but she is very much part of the media landscape.
This is called- falling right into Ellen’s PR trap of revamping her image into light-hearted and laid back. eye roll…
I’m rolling my eyes right back at you and ME above.
I didn’t say that Ellen wasn’t problematic or wasn’t an ahole. I said this interview is going to be light hearted and laid back compared to the Oprah interview. That’s Ellen’s thing, its how she’s managed to hide her toxicity, because her public persona is so light hearted.
My first sentence was LITERALLY “I wish this wasn’t Ellen.”
But sure, I’m being “incredibly dismissive” and “falling right into Ellen’s trap.”
eye roll……
This is called “Meghan shows her funny, self-deprecating side on a talk show”. You’re overlooking the fact that Meghan is whip smart, has come through a living hell with her in-laws and not only survived but thrived, and she hasn’t “fallen through Ellen’s PR trap AT ALL. She’s using the opportunity to show how truly relatable she is.
Eye roll…
How is this revamping Ellen’s image? The Ellen show is ending after this season. FYI, Ellen or Meghan do not need their image revamped. They’re in the entertainment business and are doing what is expected in that business.
Personally, I’m glad Duchess Meghan is not a two-face friend. She is there for the good, bad and the ugly. And I’m glad her true friends are the same for her.
Give the lady credit, she’s smart and savvy and she and her team know what they’re doing. I also believe she does want to reach out to mainstream America where those trollers and haters lurk, and this is the route she’s choosing. Too many of the British press and “experts” are inundating America with their toxic spill and she sees this as an opportunity to get herself across in a lighthearted way to turn it around, much as Harry did with James Corden. Who are we to judge because she goes on Ellen?
You guys…Becks1 has been commenting here forever and clearly adores the Sussexes. Do people need to freakTF out when someone expresses mild disappointment at one of their choices? Come on. I love Meghan. But she’s not perfect.
I wish she hadn’t gone on Ellen either, but that doesn’t mean I’m not still a fan or that I won’t support her anymore or anything like that, and I’m sure the same goes for Becks. We can’t pretend she’s a saint and that every single thing she does ever is 100% the right thing to do or the way we would have done it, and imo it’s fine to express that here.
It would be SO BORING if all the comments here were glowingly praising her, 365 days a year. This is the site that covers Meghan the most positively, but it makes us look like ridiculous sycophants if we can’t say *anything* that’s not totally positive at all times. It feels as if there are some people on here (I am not referring to anyone in particular!) who automatically defend Meghan immediately, no matter what. If someone says anything that could be construed as even mildly critical, it will deter people from posting at all if they know they’re going to get jumped on.
The absolute worst thing said in this post is that people are disappointed she went on Ellen— there was no nastiness, no name-calling, just an innocuous opinion. It’s not as if Becks and I were replying to every person who commented that they were excited about the interview to tell them they’re wrong! I don’t think people should be piled on for expressing that opinion.
@Lorelai, we are all agreeing with Becks1 eye roll under Jules post.
Hive mind in full effect here, that’s all I got. Can’t rationalize with stans.
@Becks1: +1. It’s hilarious that some of it is coming from folks who have defended the Trumps, their supporters, and a TERF.
Guys, Meghan can’t choose to work exclusively with good people because then the promotion of her projects (and even donors to Archwell) would be scarce. It sucks, but awful people are the ones with connections and money. This is a debate we should have when their foundation is more established, not now when they are still on the early stages.
Let´s celebrate she is in full control of her life!
Sorry while I respect your right to an opinion this is really scraping the barrel. Meghan is huge celebrity, she didn’t need to go to Ellen to promote a children’s book.
Meghan and her team is very much aware of Ellen’s reputation, she’s not naive. She knows this business. There is a reason she is going on her show. She’s not just promoting a children’s book. I wouldn’t be surprised if we see her on other shows in the next few weeks either.
Yes, people come to Meghan to work with her and not the other way around.
She’s not just promoting a children’s book — apparently you got a special viewing of the whole interview. She’s there promoting her and Harry’s special “brand”, having some light-hearted chat and sharing some funny personal anecdotes. Hollywood is full of bullies and vipers, I’m sure Meghan experienced a lot in her acting years which probably accounts for the strength she showed in getting the hell out of Dodge with Harry. She rises above all the drama and keeps shining her light.
How is that better? And why is everything a “brand” in america?
The Windsor family have been promoting their brand for decades so this talk of “brand” isn’t solely an American thing.
@Mrs. Bump – everything isn’t a “brand” in America. The term “brand” refers to a business and marketing concept that helps people identify a particular company, product, focus or individual. Brands are intangible, which means you can’t actually touch or see them. As such, they help shape people’s perceptions of companies, their products, focus or individuals. And as such, clearly brands are utilized worldwide.
To first say she “can’t choose” but then ending with “she is in full control of her life” is quite a contradiction
I meant her personal life.
100%
Yea, no.
I just can’t watch Ellen anymore. Her interviews are unpleasant and stiff. Even if she didn’t have that awful reputation of how she treats her staff, it’s obvious that she just doesn’t want to be there. I really wish she would retire and give someone else the opportunity.
But I understand why Meghan went on the show. It still draws in a large audience and the right demographic if she’s promoting her book or paid family leave.
Love seeing Duchess Meg but I feel like Ellen is beneath her? Both because Ellen sucks and is a toxic bully and also because the vibe of her show is just, I don’t know, outdated and lame. It seems to me the only reason to go on Ellen is to pander to the middle America mommy crowd and I don’t think Meg should bother trying to appeal to them. This feels off-brand but who am I to say 🤷🏻♀️
She tells that trunk story in one of the Lifetime movies, and I’ve always pictured it being a hatchback. I sure hope so.
It’s a Ford Explorer, so it’s an SUV.
Very poor choice
Ellen sucks and this is a disappointing choice but maybe Meghan felt she needed to control the questions a bit more and Ellen was willing to do that in order to get her.
I will watch it, Ellen or no Ellen, as my favorite person is meghan. I am truly not a fair weather friend. Strange how so many are. Yes I said it. Meghan needs your support, and you people are jumping ship. Tell the truth, friend or foe?.
I can’t help it, my mother chewed me out for not hating people because she did. Either you like and support the duchess or you don’t. At least Ellen stood up for her, when others did not.
You don’t have to like or support every decision someone makes. No one here said that they were no longer supporting Meghan.
@miliemollie
You jumped ship, to dislike Ellen, you abandoned the duchess. That is your choice. Just don’t tear her down, for standing, with Ellen, who stood up for her. That is all I am saying. By the way what has Ellen done personally to you?. Stop reading and believing every tabloid headline about people, ie. Ellen, as you don’t know her. Lest you be guilty of the same thing anti meghan haters are guilty of. Listen it is just my opinion, please no harm, no foul.
This is a really odd take. Taylor Swift is one of my favorite musicians and I disagree with her choices regularly. Still a big fan. Even as a child, I didn’t blindly love any celebrity crush I had or anything like that. My friends and family make decisions I don’t agree with, doesn’t mean I don’t love them. It’s not being a fair-weather friend to wish Meghan had simply chosen another outlet for an interview.
This is a common sentiment in H&M comments sections and I find it deeply toxic and disturbing that we can’t have nuanced discussions about humans we may occasionally disagree with, even if we generally love and support them.
@Margaret, with all due respect, is is absolutely unhinged for you to equate someone not loving Meghan’s choice to go on Ellen with “jumping ship” and “abandoning the duchess.” JFC
@lorelei
Unhinged is a strong reply to a personal opinion, but , as I said no harm, no foul to each his own. I stand by my comment.
@case ditto.
This right here is the reason why I intentionally choose not to be a fan of anyone. Personality cults are dangerous, and reading the comments here, and the demands for allegiance and blind approval from the super fans, makes me feel like we’re a hop and a skip away from proclaiming that God/Meghan works in mysterious ways and we must bow down to his/her better judgment
Oh please. You never liked Meghan to begin with (I remember your comments when she and Harry were still working for the BRF and your occasional defense of the *Cambridges* of all people) and you’re certainly no “neutral, logical” observer now like you’re pretending to be.
@beachdreams
Oh and you read my mind apparently.
Somehow I feel like you would not be able to recognize logic nor neutrality. It’s really ironic, funny even, that you once again ask for a show of allegiance in a comment expressedly talking about why i am against it. Your response is exactly the type of sentiments I wish to never succumb to. Because everything other than a full fledged submission to the fandom mindset is seen as hatred.
I obviously do not dislike Meghan, this is the only site I participate on because everything else is just rabid hatred of her. If i have an opinion I prefer to share it here. Not that I should have to justify myself to a total stranger who doesn’t know Meghan anymore than i do.
@MrsBump: And where exactly am I asking for your “allegiance”? Where did I ask for “allegiance” the last time I called you out (in which you were rather blatantly trying to insult the Sussexes in praising Princess Mako without directly saying their names)? Perhaps you should focus on gaining some reading comprehension before accusing others of not being able to recognize logic. I don’t give a damn about trying to get your “allegiance” or that of others who have shown clear disdain of Meghan. I just roll my eyes at people like you who pretend to be above the fray when you’ve consistently been in the thick of it. When I see that nonsense, I like to call it out.
The fact that you bring up “occasional defense of the Cambridge” as a sign that i must hate Meghan is you implicitly stating an imaginary allegiance that you believe i have.
You seem to see insults in everything that doesn’t align with your fanatical worldview, the fact that you remember comments that i make when I rarely comment on this at all, and there are hundreds of comments under all the royal posts is a little concerning. It’s bizarre to have a stalker, but here we are.. everything you have said just proves how toxic this mindset is when pushed to the extreme. This is a really great site, differing views should be welcomed as long as they are respectful.
LOL, no one is “stalking” you. I’ve been reading and commenting on this site for several years, and the people who post frequently tend to stick out after a while. You were a frequent commenter back when the Sussexes were in the UK and you were also pretty consistent in your disdain of Meghan. You and several other regular posters who disliked her basically up and vanished when the comment section became stronger in its support of the Sussexes. Again, acting like you’re some neutral observer calling out “fanaticism” doesn’t work when you were a regular participant in the ‘toxic mindset’ that you claim to hate.
I have never been a frequent commentor though I have been reading this site for years. The fact that you are bringing up comments made when harry and Meghan were in the uk, what two years ago, proves my point.
@MrsBump- totally agree! People bending over backwards and suddenly excusing Ellen just because…
I am with you Beach Dreams
Beach dreams is right, you have never liked M.
I read all the posts on the royal threads and almost all the other posts in general and you consistently are negative about Meghan. No one is stalking you, we have eyes.
I and other people who have been reading here for years remember who said what about who
And Jules you’re another one who craps on Meghan or concern trolls on these threads.
MrsBump totally agree with you sometimes it seems like a cult if a comment just isn’t full of praise enough it’s strange how all other commentators get outraged why they taking it so personally and bringing old comments from 2 years ago
Agree with you 100% @Margaret.
One cannot say one supports someone and then, when it suits you, you start spewing the same bullsh!t that her enemies spew at her 24/7/365. Obviously no one is perfect. So when the person you support does something you dont agree with, just shut your mouth. Dont give her enemies more ammunition. Because they want nothing more than to be able to point and say gleefully: see, she is losing support!
Its like my admiration for Angelina: everyone and their inner demon knows that Angie, hvng grown up in the HW fishbowl, has had a life that went from one extreme to the other. I became a diehard fan when she and Brad got together in ’05. And through all the ups and downs of that relationship, I never typed a single word of criticism against her….not for a dress that i didnt like; not for a decision, for which i was not privy to the facts that led to their choices; etc.
Why? Not because I thought she was perfect and above criticism, but because i told myself there were enough bad-actors (no pun intended) out there who are ready and willing to criticize everything she does so why should I add to that. For whose benefit?
That’s nonsense. People should be using their brains about what’s going on in the world around them and adapting as things change and they get new information. Otherwise you end up with people who always vote for criminals because they always have and they’re not going to stop now. There’s no merit in being stubborn and unchanging.
@ThirtyNine, agree.
And the logic some people are using could be flipped the other way: if Ellen has known Meghan for so long but never asked her to be on the show until she was an international megastar, but never to promote Suits or the Tig? That’s just as hypocritical as the people claiming those of us who are disappointed that she chose to go on Ellen, of all shows, getting bent out of shape about our opinions.
I don’t really care about Ellen, but to people judging Meghan decision, remember that Ellen stood by her when she was going through HELL. Even if I don’t care about Ellen, I understand how it could be her way to pay her back for that kindness. It’s Ellen farewell’s season, it could explain her presence. Harry’s brother the real one, Nacho figueras, also supported Ellen. It’s not like Meghan doesn’t have enough haters who are going to jump at yet another chance to crucify her for that friendship.
ITA! Well said and this is exactly how I’m feeling about this, too.
Ellen isn’t beneath Meghan, guys. I know a lot of people aren’t fans of Ellen, but she still has one of the most popular daytime talk shows and a ton of celebrities flock to do press on her show. Michelle Obama literally just did a video interview on Ellen.
They know this. They always behave extremely when it’s Meghan. She can’t even wear coats without discourse.
I haven’t seen any mention of this yet but I expect the tabloids will screech about the cost of her blouse. Oscar de la Renta is pricey
She has Oscar de la Renta money. Notice she mostly wears American designers now. Hope she starts wearing a few younger, more up and coming designers, not just the established luxury labels.
She’s got enough coins to buy 3 of the same Oscar de la Renta blouses if she wants to, and since she’s not taking taxpayer money to do it, it’s not my business.
Sophie only wears high-end designers but the press never has anything to say about that and she’s funded by the tax payers.
Of course the tabloids will lose it on the cost of her blouse. They freak out on anything and everything she does. But, Meghan isn’t funded by the tax payers like Kate. She can afford to buy this kind of blouse. She makes her own money ( unlike Kate and the others)
Seriously. Someone said the residuals alone from Suits would maintain her in a very good lifestyle if she never earned another cent. The thing is, when Meghan makes these appearances, people expect her to bring it, to up the game. That blouse is gorgeous.
Not that she can’t afford it, but she is no longer restricted from accepting discounted or free items and I suspect that many fashion designers are now making those offers to her because she has huge visibility.
Oscar de la Renta money made me laugh. Hmmm of course you’re right, designers must be throwing stuff at her for the exposure. I’m happy she can wear what she wants and that blouse is gorgeous
My only issue with the blouse is that it’s twee and dowdy, but it’s her money to spend as she wishes. The tabloids will criticise because it draws in the readers.
It’s disappointing that Ellen is still able to draw the big names to her show, but I don’t blame Meghan for this, she has to play the game if she wants to build their profile. People in Hollywood are good at turning a blind eye to negativity if the result is good publicity.
Look at the big picture here. This is a boss move. After trying to drag Meghan in the courts over her omission about FF (BM, Jason/KP, Bad Dad and Scammy) Meghan is not hiding (you know you were excepting her to crawl under a rock now). Ellen could use the ratings given her issues, but it shows Meghan is loyal to friends even during their bad times. She cuts out people who hurt her.
I’m glad she’s doing whatever the hell she wants to do and isn’t letting herself be held hostage by the obsessive and racist Brexit/MAGA degenerates nor the virtue signaling woker than thou lefties.
Well said, Nyro!
You’re right and we are going to either tune in or read about it after the fact. She is not afraid to put herself out there. If she did an interview with the Atlantic or Mother Jones, she’d still get criticized. Ellen is as cuddly as a cactus but her show appeals to middle America.
It really is remarkable that with all those people on the lot and in the audience full no one leaked that she would be on this show. I know we say this a lot but that Archewell team is incredible and it’s so nice to see Meghan so carefree and happy again especially while the British Established is still gnashing their teeth trying to destroy her.
Not the biggest fan of Ellen’s anymore for obvious reasons but as a queer woman I still do appreciate the barriers she broke down and tbh she was one of the few high profile celebrities defending Meghan when she was at her lowest and before it was cool. And she did it repeatedly- both on her show and online when Meghan was postpartum and vulnerable so I appreciate that and I imagine they do as well. Doesn’t excuse the rest of her mess but I get why Meghan would go on her show.
We have continually praised the Archewell team for no leaks, for facilitating the New York trip where Meghan and Harry met with UN dignitaries and headlined that Global Vax live concert, the recent Wired and Dealbook forums, but some here think they are being naive about an Ellen appearance and isn’t a very deliberative strategic decision. No, just no.
@Chelsea, agree, that is what’s REALLY impressive: that none of the audience members leaked. We already knew that Harry & Meghan run a tight ship and their team nor anyone from Archewell ever leaks, but it’s incredible that all of those random audience members kept it quiet, too.
I don’t watch Ellen because I don’t watch talk shows, but I remember Ellen when she did stand-up and when she had her own comedy show and came out on Oprah – all of these were enormously difficult and enormously influential. She shouldn’t have treated her people like dirt and I’m glad she was called on it, but I can’t ignore that she was a groundbreaker in the business. So, I don’t have a problem with Meghan being on Ellen’s show. I might even watch a daytime talk show for the first time in my life.
Remember her mannerisms and the blouse please. I say it hear first. you’ll see this in the near future from copy Kate
Yup!
Agree, except somehow Kate will end up looking like Jerry Seinfeld in the “puffy shirt.”
Not everyone can pull this off like Meghan can. But, bless her heart, Kate will try.
I get why people have this visceral reaction to her choosing Ellen, but the outrage would have more credence if Meghan were the first high profile person to appear on her show since she was exposed. She isn’t. And this is guaranteed high visibility. That being said, it’s not the most thoughtful choice.
They want Meghan to cut off her actual friend, which is what they themselves would do just to please the Twitter mob.
I agree with this. Not a huge fan of Ellen, but where were the fits when Jennifer Aniston showed up, or Jlo or Michelle Obama. It only seems to be an issue for Meghan, which is a double standard here. It’s like Meghan has to be perfect and if she doesn’t do something as everyone expected, she gets crucified for it with an intensity that really no one else faces.
And if there is a level of friendship between them, then I can understand this decision even more. Ellen still has the top daytime show out there.
This! The reaction to this appearance merits a whole separate article. No one is coming for those other celebrities who appeared on this show, and they won’t. They came and went, as will this, except we’ll talk more about it. This is why we stay watching Meghan. She really is a Rorschach test for so many. Also, looking forward to seeing Meghan at work, because this is what this is.
“It’s like Meghan has to be perfect…”
This is it in a nutshell. Lord help this woman if she doesn’t do every single thing by the book. She’s constantly held to a completely different standard, and don’t tell me it’s because of their “brand”. Just because she and Harry have dedicated their lives to doing good for others, does not make them candidates for sainthood. They are going to do things that might not be how you or I might do it, but I truly do not believe there is any maliciousness or two-facedness behind this. This was done to reach an audience who is not getting the real story of who Meghan, Harry and Archewell are and are about. That’s it.
But were there posts here about those appearances? I usually only read the royal posts for the most part, so idk. If I’d seen a post about Jennifer Aniston or whoever else going on Ellen, I would have said the exact same thing.
Ellen doesn’t deserve to have Meghan on, imo.
Jlo has had a ton of posts about her on this site and no one commented about her appearance on Ellen. I am also prepared to bet money that most people didn’t even know Michelle Obama or Jennifer Aniston went on Ellen recently, because it was such a non issue.
And how many of the same disappointed people here today commented about James Corden after Harry appeared on that show? He’s been outed as a jerk too.
Ellen is an asshole. But I am glad we are no longer judging people by the company they keep.
Just like we stopped judging peoples bodies after whatshisface.
I will watch for sure. I won’t click on articles but some headlines of the two dozen articles probably pre written I predict will be :
Cosying up to fellow bully, blah blah blah.
Overshadowing F King, blah blah blah.
I had:
Deceptively climbing from the backdoor to the front since her actress days!
It’s so sad to see how ridiculous and easy it is to spin a story for clickbait. If we are anticipating them (and I’m 100% sure they’re not above what the BM would print) I’m sure H&M’s team has already combed through potentials 1000x.
They will absolutely be ridiculous! Back door to front.. Could be interesting 🤣
I loathe Ellen but I will watch for Meghan. Im excited to see her speak and just be herself and talk about her old acting days.
Yeah, so what she’s on Ellen. Ellen is still the biggest show in daytime. I’m just excited Meghan gets to do what she wants now. I’m sure the British press and royalists are pissed but their outrage will just make more people watch the show. BTW, James Corden is said to be an a-hole too, I didn’t see anybody being upset when Harry went on his show.
I will watch, Ellen had Meghan and Harry back when their own family turned their backs on them.William set Jason loose to destroy Harry wife and his children lives by extension. No one in that family stands up for them so yeah, I will definitely give Ellen the views. When someone is there for you, you should pay it forward and return the favor if you can.
Meghan should go on the Barefoot Contessa and they can bake that famous chicken and chat about food and their love of small dinner parties. That would be fun to watch. Ina if you’re reading this, please make it happen.
As for Helen, everyone has good and bad sides. We don’t know about Meghan and Helen’s relationship. If Helen was supportive and caring to Meghan during the though times. With so many people trying to cancel her, perhaps Meghan has decided not to participate in cancel culture.
Those of you going into hysterics about this interview should keep that same energy for everyone else who’s recently been interviewed by Ellen.
Say it louder!
So many meltdowns. This reminds me of all those times, myself included sometimes, when we would say if only the Sussexes just did the bread and butter appearances, if only they talked to the UK press, if only she visited her dad in Mexico, if only she toned down her look, be less visible, the attacks would stop, the royals would embrace her. No b*t*h, we don’t know what’s best for her, they are not being naive, they are not saints, and they do not hide away. This is all we’re talking about today and tomorrow and the next day. Today we’re going off about Ellen herself, it’s fine to vent, but tomorrow we are parsing content.
It’s the old respectability politics rearing its ugly head, as well as the Purity Contests that liberals often subject each other to.
For heaven’s sake. Ellen was rightfully shamed for mistreating her employees. She isn’t the only TV host who mistreated/mistreats employees. At least she was called on it.
The royal family consorts with child molesters and human traffickers, arms dealers, and racist media.
Meghan isn’t Ellen’s keeper, nor can she hold the torch for every mistreated employee on earth. She will lose that fight, and we all lose with her. Because it means the bad guys win. That’s what’s at stake. We support Meghan because we don’t want the bad guys to win.
I wonder how many of people writing angry retorts about Ellen did so on Apple devices, whose employees in China commit suicide from overwork. Or typed while wearing clothes made by kids in sweatships. That’s the slippey slope of purity contests, and that’s what makes them bad.
Does that excuse Ellen? Of course not! But like I said, at least she was called out on her crappy behavior, and she has a greater spotlight on her as a result. But how many talk show hosts continue to treat their staff like crap, and we don’t know about it? How many men knowingly treat their employees like crap, knowing that they will never be held accountable the way a woman would be, and knowing that someone will probably try to find some woman to blame for their crap behavior anyway?
If we expect perfection from Meghan then she will fail us. Black women fail when they are held to superhuman standards. Meghan has survived what for most of us (including me) would be unsurvivable. That’s what we should celebrate. She survived the people who wanted her dead, shamed, disgraced. She survived the people who wanted to destroy her good name, her hopes and dreams. The British media AND the royal family wanted her dead.
Ellen may be a crappy person, but Ellen never tried to kill anyone, as far as I know. Let Ellen pay for her own sins. Let’s not put them on Meghan. Guilt by association in this sense is absurd. We all fail that standard just by the fact that we’re on the site using internet devices.
@lanne excellent comment.
Where’s the like or upvote button?? Love this comment, @lanne.
Lanne, just Amen to this entire post. It’s not realistic to expect women to performatively distance themselves from everyone who has ever behaved themselves in a problematic way. She’s not discrediting or smearing victims of Ellen’s behavior, or shielding her. That should be good enough.
ALL. OF. THIS.
THANK YOU.
This is an old fashioned “can I get a witness” statement. I’m here for all you said and hope others realize Meghan is not going to be the beast of burden for others. Thank you for clarity.
I agree but also don’t agree. It’s okay to say “meh, I wish Meghan wasn’t going on Ellen” and move on. It’s different to insist that this means Meghan is a horrible person because of this OR to insist that this must mean Ellen is perfect because Meghan wouldn’t associate with someone otherwise.
There’s a middle road and sometimes that’s okay.
As for the other celebs who have been on recently – I don’t watch Ellen so I have no idea who has been on or hasn’t.
Basically – the people in hysterics about this on either side need to take a deep breath.
And I will watch the interview.
I agree with your “middle of the road” thoughts on this. Ellen is not and should not be absolved of what she’s done simply because of this interview and her friendship with Meghan — Meghan isn’t a fairy godmother who bestows goodness and a pass on every person she touches. She’s human like the rest of us and while I get the feeling she’s typically a good judge of character, she can have blind spots just like the rest of us, but opts to try to see the good in people because of what she’s endured. Just like she can call Kate “a good person” and give the Queen grace as far as her role in this entire saga, she has her reasons to uphold her friendship with Ellen. I keep reminding myself that we only know a tiny fraction of the true story of any of this.
I also can agree with the notion that choosing a different talk show to go on would have been better in that it would have avoided this kerfuffle with THIS issue (because we know that no matter whose show she went on, there would have been a fit thrown by someone about something). But I also think that the reasoning for this move was thought out and options were weighed, but because she’s Meghan it can never be simple and straightforward.
Agreed 100%. In an ideal world, the notion of Meghan doing an interview with Ellen wouldn’t even be a consideration. But it’s not an ideal world. I do NOT like Ellen, even a little bit. But I’m not going to really spend my time knocking on Meghan for this too, beyond wondering why she’d do the interview. It’s really not Meghan’s problem, nor is it on her to answer for Ellen’s behaviour. I don’t want her doing the spot, but at the end of the day, it’s really not a big deal for me.
Right? So many irrational comments about Meghan going on Ellen meanwhile the Royal family has been associating with Pedophiles and no outrage. They still go on with their business. The Obama’s had Chrissy T at their party no outrage, William worked with Bloomberg who’s problematic no outrage. Oprah was on Ellen’s first show this year I think….silence.
Meghan is held to a completely different standard than all these people. It’s like some y’all are just trying to find a reason to hate her.
I’m so happy she is speaking her truth. I’m so sick of the folks on Salty Isle and in the palaces putting out this bs narrative about her. She isn’t in their employ any longer. She has her own business and foundation. She can and should go on every talk show she can to promote her endeavors!
Meghan’s used to working with unsavory people, so this is nothing new. She spent two years working for the biggest grifters in the world who made Diana’s life (AND HER LIFE) hell. Sure, she could have gone on another show, but Ellen is the top right now and her show is ending. Ellen’s “rehabilitation” has been in effect all year, so I’m lost why Meghan’s being held to a different standard.
To me, this is just another thing folks get mad about, like her wearing a coat or wearing a certain color or sending emails at 5 AM.
And I don’t even like Ellen because her show is corny. Also, James Corden’s behavior is well known, and has been FOR YEARS. Yet I don’t recall any criticism directed towards Harry for appearing on his show.
Yep. Because there’ve been scores of A-listers on Ellen’s show since the scandal went down, including Michelle O, Eva Longoria, Jamie Foxx, Kathryn Hahn… and that’s just off the top of my head. These are all BELOVED figures and unless the posters above had the same breathless energy for them, I find their conniptions on this thread comical.
Not to mention that Prince Harry worked with Katie Couric with the Aspen institute regarding online harassment and cyberbullying. Katie, over the last year has revealed mean girl behavior towards Denzel Washington. Plus pretty much every single female staffer at NBC, showed how she basically under my her female peers, and then defended Matt Lauer.
Yes, some of the commentators here that are holding Meghan to a wholly different standard where silent as church mice on the page discussing Harry’s involvement with the Aspen institute and working with Katie Couric. They can miss me with the double standards.
YES…..someone else who has eloquently said exactly what I’m thinking. Keep the truth bombs coming.
She was dealing with a family that was friends with actual war criminals and pedophiles (Charles was friends with Jimmy Saville until the end) but Ellen being a bad boss is somehow on the same level as this?
Who are these unsavory people? Are you referring to the staff at KP, because it seems her Suits cast and crew were solid people.
To all the critics of any of the celebs appearing on Ellen: These celebs have contracts with different publishing and production companies who may be setting up these interviews. If you have a contract with, say Netflix, Spotify, Random House, sometimes their PR people require certain events.
Exactly.
Meghan looks fabulous for her appearance on Ellen. For those wanting her to have made appearances on a different talk show, why? The haters and UK press would’ve still targeted her and complained anyway. I mean, they were just a couple of days talking about boycotting StoryTime, where Meghan was reading her picturebook. Along with them going after any business or celeb that’s been publicly friendly with Meghan or Harry. They’re writing hit pieces on Adele right now, all because she said nice things about Harry and Meghan.
At this point, Meghan Markle and Prince Harry are happily living their lives. Neither appears to be the least bit concerned about the displeasure of haters about how they live. That’s what true freedom does; for someone, it frees them from the burden of having to live their life based on what others might think or feel about you.
So many organized passive aggressive comments, purposely creating content for the Fail. Bet they all watch the show.
You know they will be watching the show to pick apart Meghan.
The ratings will be great with all the 8aters tuning in, then claiming they only watch clips and can tell you every darn word she said.
I don’t mind this back and forth regarding this appearance. It’s interesting and like hearing everyone’s thoughts. Don’t have to like everything said but it keeps things lively.
Precisely. I do think this is a surprising choice for Meghan, and I’m curious about what went into making this decision for her and her team. I don’t think they’re stupid and unaware. I think they’re all remarkably up to date on what’s being discussed on social media. There’s just no way that Meghan or anyone else in her orbit isn’t also aware of what happened over the summer with Ellen, and what people, including Meghan’s own supporters/fanbase, would have to say about it.
So I’m curious to know what sorts of things were being considered when they chose this. If there’s one thing to understand about Meghan, it’s that she doesn’t make any decision lightly. So I’m sure there was some thought put into this, and I’m curious as to what those thoughts are. I wonder too, if this will change things with the demographic that still stubbornly watches Ellen, who I honestly think are somewhat more likely to overlap with the people who aren’t exactly fondly disposed to Meghan. I’m honestly curious to know what’s going to happen and what will be said/discussed on her segment.
@L4Frimaire ITA. I don’t like Ellen, but of course I’ll still record & watch the show for Meghan, and I doubt I’m the only one here who feels that way! I might dislike Ellen, but I love Meghan more, and would never claim to boycott watching anything with Meghan.
As a gay woman, let me just say F*** Ellen.
I’m a Meghan fan but I’m not a fan of US media. Sure, you can compare US to UK press, but it really is apples and oranges – let’s not pretend those little tabloids have the power of Warner Bros, NYT, Disney. I’m not blaming Meghan at all – our girl’s got security to pay for –
My guess is that her talent agency is cozy with Warner, Spotify etc.
I get it – she needs media allies and it’s a smart play – it just means it’s extra special when she works with orgs like 19th news.
Ellen is just so fake, I wish us gays had a better famous talkshow host.
Lol & smh at some of these comments. Meghan is a grown ass and well educated woman. Period. Not anyone’s property nor anyone’s fool.
Why aren’t these concern trolls upset that the Royal family still does business with the tabloids that have been making Harry and Meghans life a living hell? If not for Meghan’s sake then for Harry’s their own blood relative. So if Meghan wants to talk to Ellen, then fine at least Ellen apologized for her horrid behavior. We are still waiting to hear from The Mail on Sunday; instead they launch this fake appeal.
Hell, where’s the outrage for the royals consorting with known pedophiles, on a near constant basis by this point? Charles was friendly with Jimmy Savile wasn’t he? And some other Church of England higher up? The rot goes far deeper than Andrew, and yet. Nothing. How interesting.
PVR is set for tomorrow just in case I forget to watch it when is comes on. Go Duchess Meghan! Kudos to Ellen!
Hmm, all I am going to say I that there are a lot of new posters on this thread.
They always show up with their “concerns” whenever Meghan does something that surprises us, lol.
@Gingerbee & @ L4frimaire, I’m sucking my teeth /hissing at the concerns from the new posters. Their caring concerns for Duchess Meghan is very much appreciated.
And they always say how much the “like and support” Meghan even though they haven’t bothered to say “boo!” before. They are always “long time lurkers” who have never commented before but they feel compelled to comment now because Meghan something, something or other. I’m not sure what they hope to accomplish, they are not changing anyone’s mind. But I guess they get paid by the word or something.
Ellen is supporting Save the Okavango Delta. She and Portia have a vested interest in gorillas. 2021 is her final season, and I am sure many significant guests will appear. It’s not about Ellen; it’s the network. Before the alleged complaints, her show was popular because of the array of guests. Also, Ellen and Portia visited the Sussex household shortly after Archie was born, a time I’m sure Meghan welcomed company. Serena Williams said Meghan is always there for you when everyone else has left. In the words of Dionne Warwick, “That’s what friends are for.” Meghan, accused of being a bully, and we’re still waiting for proof. I loathe Jimmy Fallon but if he has a guest that I like, I will watch the segment. It’s called “pick and choose.”
Just recalling a few things about Ellen:
I don’t care for Ellen as a public personality because I’ve observed a bit of a mean streak in her in her interactions with contestants and some guests. I don’t watch her show as a rule, but if I hear about a guest I find interesting, I watch. i quit watching David Letterman because I observed he was really mean to a guest (who was not a celebrity), but watched if I was interested in a particular guest. I don’t think any less of the guest because the host is less than a steller human being.
i remember that Ellen touts her friendship with Michelle Obama and she certainly made a number of appearances on her show. So did Barack, and as president, I believe he awarded Ellen a medal probably for her work getting the story out for gay communities. He also appeared on her show, as did Hillary Clinton, and numerous other prominent politicians. Mind you, this was before the big scandal of Ellen’s bullying.
Ellen and Harry have worked together on conservation issues. I believe Ellen’s is gorillas. Apparently, she is supporting the Okavanga conservation issue that Prince Harry is working on. I believe Harry and Ellen worked on a conservation issue together when the Sussexes wee living at Frogmore Cottage.
I’ve heard Meghan mentioned by a Nacho Figueras, who is a great friend of Harry’s and who speaks out in support of the Sussexes on Ellen’s show. I believe Meghan knew Ellen before she married Harry. They’re neighbours now so it is not entirely surprising that Meghan would agree to appear on the final year of Ellen’s show. Like the Obamas, I believe that Harry and Meghan will make appearances on talk shows to highlight issues.
I understand that if you disapprove of a friend, that you would just cut them off. Some people do that, and some don’t. I understand people not wanting to give Ellen support for her show because of what has recently been revealed about her treatment of people in general and her staff in particular. I personally find all the comments about being “disappointed” in Meghan a bit patronizing towards her. She is a grown woman who has made good choices in life and moves in the world with kindness and compassion. I’m going to watch the interview because I like Meghan and would like to hear what she has to say. And I’ve never liked Ellen either as a performer or as a public person. Also, I hope she is treating her staff much better now.
I love Meghan but I stopped watching Ellen last year. I’ll pass & just catch the highlights on this site.
Meghan doing interview with Ellen because Larry King is dead. I love watching old Larry and Meghan interviews.
So Ellen is a bad boss, perhaps she changed (maybe not), but i do believe her staffs are in good place right now because of the exposed.
If meghan doing interview with
Fallon- he is so fake with his fake laugh. I cant stand him, meghan should go to Kelly
Kelly- kelly will definitely fan girling her the whole time, meghan should go to:
Stepehen colbert/trever noah: these men always talk about politic bla bla bla
Even Oprah has so many flaws that meghan shouldn’t be involve with her.
But remember kate has no mistakes.
I honestly think an interview with Colbert or Trevor Noah would be aces for Meghan. Both of them are incredibly fun, relaxed interviewers, but they ask hard hitting, relevant questions, and I think it would have been really great if she’d been able to do interviews with them. Especially Trevor Noah. He has on people of all types for interviews on his show, not just people who are politically affiliated, so I don’t really understand what the objection here on those grounds are.
That being said, both Colbert and Trevor Noah aren’t exactly getting the kind of audience Meghan wants to reach. Only Ellen is. And her viewers are, excuse me, more likely to be the type who say sh-t like, “I don’t hate Meghan Markle, but there’s just something about her that I don’t like.” That something being her race. So I think this interview is a way to turn the tide wrt that audience, in the way the Oprah interview turned the tide in so many ways for Meghan and Harry.
I’d totally forgotten that Larry King had passed away until I saw this comment! I loved when Meghan was on his show, too. The one where he asked her to show him some of her calligraphy was great.
Probably a lot has to do with location. Otherwise a show like Today with Hoda and Jenna would’ve been a good fit. Same relaxed vibe but with more Hoda. 🙂 And its ratings with women and overall are leaps ahead of Ellen. I’d love to see her on it when they’re in nyc next.
I wonder how long this crap will go on, with the fake outrage about anything Meghan does including when she wears her coats? There are two hundred comments on here, meanwhile Pedo is accused of possible money laundering and there is barely a peep in comparison. So what if Meghan appears on a daytime talk show to talk about her book? There has got to be a statute of limitations on this isn’t there? Or is that too much to expect.
Have you noticed the “I used to like Meghan, but not if she goes on Ellen” comments from the same frauds whose posting history shows they never liked Meghan?
These Karens need jobs, hobbies, and grass to touch.
Exactly Msiam. Yet there are no outrage for the Pedo.
Acting like Megan can do no wrong and every slightest question about her choices is a vicious attack is just as dehumanizing to this complex individual as hating every breath she takes. You all see that, right?
I have eyes, and I admire some other people, including Meghan. I know and understand that my faves are not perfect, but in cases like Meghan here, who is vilified every single HOUR, not even day, by anonymous people and by the establishment (press and grey courtiers), I would not dare criticise anything about her. Nothing.
IMO, Harry and Meghan are good people who are entitled to enjoy their own money and position, just as others do it. They do not have to be parangones of virtue. They can be flawed, just as humans are. What tabloids and haters do is inhumane.
Let other with a smaller heart criticise every milimeter of them, let them swallow their own jelaousy poison . H and M have had enough.
Let Celebitchy be a haven of goodwill for them. Hush, go, go away.
@Dashen’ka
You’re new I see, Noone is saying she is perfect, but she is not all wrong. You do see that. People will and do have their say, and there are differences of opinion. This is not a place for thin skinned commenters. Just remember to not take things personally.
I’m loving this unbothered Meghan living her best life. Happy and proud of who she is, where she came from and where she is now.
Let us list all the other famous faces who have appeared since the Ellen incident-Michelle Obama, Jennfier Aniston. Jamie Foxx, Anderson Cooper, Jimmy Fallon, Naccho Figueras(Harry’s good friend and polo buddy) and etc-Ellen is the Sussexes neighbor-Ellen/Portia were one of the first Americans who visited Harry and Meghan and got to see Archie-Ellen showed support to Harry and Meghan during their difficult time in the UK-Ellen and Harry have worked on a conservation project about apes-Dummies who are saying mean things don’t read the background for the relationship between Ellen and the Sussexes-This goes back before Ellen had bad pr for her work environments. The Sussexes are just returning the favor for the support Ellen has shown them in the past. These Satan Shitstains need to have a colon check before they think about saying dumb statements-More power too the Sussexes.
PS-I am not an Ellen viewer or fan-A supporter of the Sussex family.
Do I like Ellen Degeneres as a person? No.
Do I think this has the potential to be an incredibly fun interview? Yeah. I do. I think if nothing else, Ellen can have some fun bits. And there’s no way that every moment of this interview wasn’t planned and meticulously gone over before it was done, so I imagine Ellen can’t get up to most of her usual shenanigans that she does with other people. And, honestly? Her getting Prince Harry on her show for an interview was a long time pipe dream of mine, so this seems like it has the potential to be fun.
ETA: As for the outrage that Meghan is getting for this. Look, she’s the highest profile interview Ellen is going to have this season, if not her whole show. It’s a huge “get” for her, and it’s going to make people tune in. Again, I don’t personally care for Ellen. I don’t like her apology, and I take a lot of umbrage about some of the comments here suggesting that people complaining about her sh-tty management are just overly coddled millenials who need their hand held, simply bc they oppose the idea of being bullied or treated like sh-t at work. But at the same time, I can see why Meghan and her team would agree to do the interview, although I do think that they should anticipate some of the criticism that would come their way as a result of who they chose to do an interview with. Someone suggested in the comments that she can’t do one with Trevor Noah bc he only discusses politics, but honestly, an interview between Meghan Markle and Trevor Noah would be much more fun and interesting than one between her and Ellen. Maybe they have that slated in the works too, I dunno.
But for me, I’m taking an attitude of, it is what it is, and they should have known better, but I don’t care enough to criticize Meghan for it. Maybe that’s unfair of me, but the way I see it, this is someone who’s dealt with enough shit and criticism, and I’m wary of adding my words to that pile, given the circumstances. There will be a time and a place for appropriate criticism, but given that the tabloid media is not capable of being appropriate or fair, I’m going to hold my words on this one and just fully support Meghan all the way.
I honestly do think that the royals should do more of this type of stuff on the UK. Will and Kate baking with Mary Berry was a huge let down (outside of the infamous shoulder shrug!!!!!!!!!), bc what they really should have done was a Great British Bake-Off Christmas special with Charles, Camilla, Will, and Kate. Or literally any 4 of the royals. I’d pay to see Anne bake a dozen biscuits and get a stare down from Paul Hollywood. That’s the sort of easily relatable, good will sh-t that will get you instant fans.
Or like, panel shows are literally a dime a dozen over in the UK, and they’d be a ton of fun for any royal to participate in. Hell, imagine Willy boy doing a spot on Would I Lie To You. Or Have I Got News For You, or any panel show, really. Or shoot a skit for Red Nose Day, which I want to say Charles has actually done before. This is a family that, all things said and done, isn’t too shabby at performing on stage. So why not freaking put them there?
@A, you make some good points. I think Meghan’s team put a lot of consideration into doing this Ellen appearance. This was probably months of planning and back and forths, and they know, we all know, about Ellen’s workplace issue with her show. The press can reach out to Ellen herself if they want more explanation of how she resolved those issues, but they’d rather project onto Meghan right now. As for the other royals doing stuff like this, that’s laughable. They don’t have the personality or wit, they are not attractive and they are not motivated. William has been in documentaries and had his little award show, and it just does not work. Everyone, lovers and haters alike, will be watching this.
I’m so glad I’m not Meghan Markle because if she farts, the whole world has an opinion of how it should smell.
What an uproar over an interview. Ellen may have her faults as a person and as a boss, as they have been well documented, but she was also groundbreaking in terms of LBGTQ inclusion in TV programming. I’m not clutching any pearls over this.
I’d rather a friend who sticks by me through adversity because we’re all fallible. Meghan knew she would take a hit for being loyal to her friend and I believe the risk was worth it.
1. It really solidifies her loyalty
2. Ellen’s target audience are the very group with the most hate for Meghan, that is middle-aged suburban women, and what better way to show your humanity than with a light banter with Ellen
3. If we expect Meghan to not put a foot wrong then that’s a we problem and not on her. She is human!
Cancel culture is so annoying. The world is not black and white. People are typically not good and bad. They are a hybrid and can learn from the past. For all her issues, Ellen has done amazing things for people, communities, and above all the LGBT community. Literal game changer when she came out in the late 90s, she lost it all to live her truth. I personally have an insane amount of gratitude for her struggle and what her coming out meant to generations of queer people. I saw firsthand how society started to embrace difficult conversations as a result of that courageous act and will give her the benefit of the doubt when she messes up provided changes are implemented to ensure it doesn’t happen again. People who work for her show deserve a safe workplace. But I’m not going to pretend like she hasn’t made plenty of positive contributions and acknowledge the huge difference she has made for so many people. I’m happy Megan gets to tell her story and truth to whoever she wants. Looking forward to hearing what she has to share with us!
Lets take a moment to compare her, in this clip, to her, as portrayed in the headlines.
All I see here, is an ambitious woman, who pursued her goals in Hollywood. Not one trace of any malignancy, ill will or conniving.
The fact is– the RF just doesn’t like ambitious people, or anyone who upstages the crown or the next in line.
And she easily does that— so ‘off with her head’ but in todays allowed ways (ie via the media and public opinion).
The British media clowns, the Royal family and the haters are ridiculously freaking out about this interview. They’re scared shit that Meghan is about the spill more royal beans. They’re delusional. Don’t they get it that the world doesn’t revolve around them? Please.