I didn’t expect to write this kind of story about Chris Noth, and yet I’m not completely surprised. Covering all of the #MeToo stories in recent years has made me so jaded about what men are like when they have any kind of fame, money or power. For Chris Noth, he’s been held up as an iconic (if dysfunctional) romantic hero on Sex and the City for more than twenty-two years. And he abused that fame, he abused the interest younger women had in him because of SATC. Two women separately contacted the Hollywood Reporter in recent months to describe how Noth raped them. One rape happened in LA in 2004, and the other rape happened in New York in 2015, in Noth’s apartment. Both of his victims – whose names are protected by THR – told friends, colleagues, doctors and counsellors about their assaults. Trigger Warning: You can read the full THR piece here, their stories are harrowing and I believe them completely.
It was the revival of the television series that had made him such an iconic character that was triggering for the two women.
Zoe, now 40, and Lily, now 31, both allege they were sexually assaulted by actor Chris Noth. The two women — who approached The Hollywood Reporter separately, months apart, and who do not know each other — said promotions and press reports of HBO Max’s Sex and the City sequel series And Just Like That, in which Noth reprises his role as Mr. Big, stirred painful memories of incidents they say occurred in Los Angeles in 2004 and in New York in 2015, respectively. To protect their privacy, THR is allowing both women to use pseudonyms.
Lily, now a journalist, reached out to THR in August. “I’m not sure how you go about this sort of story and how you find the other victims,” she wrote in an email. THR heard from Zoe in October. She still works in the entertainment industry and is fearful of repercussions if her identity were known. But “seeing that he was reprising his role in Sex and the City set off something in me,” she says. “For so many years, I buried it.” She decided it was time “to try to go public with who he is.”
Contacted for comment, Noth sent THR a statement: “The accusations against me made by individuals I met years, even decades, ago are categorically false. These stories could’ve been from 30 years ago or 30 days ago — no always means no — that is a line I did not cross. The encounters were consensual. It’s difficult not to question the timing of these stories coming out. I don’t know for certain why they are surfacing now, but I do know this: I did not assault these women.”
THR has their first-hand accounts and independent corroboration via interviews with the people Lily and Zoe spoke to after they were raped. These are credible accusations and eerily similar assaults. In one of the situations, Noth continued texting his victim for weeks after he raped her, almost like he was checking to make sure she wasn’t about to go to the police. The whole thing is disgusting and evil. Chris Noth makes me sick.
Within hours of THR’s report, Peloton removed their viral ad with Noth, the one which was shot within days of And Just Like That’s first episodes premiering on HBO Max.
Photos courtesy of Avalon Red.
In the criminal justice system, sexually based offenses are considered especially heinous. In New York City, the dedicated detectives who investigate these vicious felonies are the actual predators themselves and our society shields them from accountability. Dun-Dun!
Please let me publicly rescind and disavow my comment from the other day. I knew he was a wide open cheater. I did NOT know he was a serial rapist. Wonder what’ll happen now with his part on The Equalizer.
Nice use of Law and Order SVU intro.
I’m disgusted by these allegations. He definitely has an M.O.
Have you seen the movie White Girl? It’s on Netflix. He has a cameo in it which he plays an attorney who gets the main character incredibly wasted and then rapes her. It’s really eerie watching it now because he rapes her from behind, just like these women say he did to them. Like… did he suggest that on set?
@Iris I immediately thought of White Girl. The rape scene is disturbing, as is much of the film, but I remember feeling particularly unsettled by Noth in the role, like he was too comfortable. That feeling never left me & it was the first thing I thought of when theses allegations came out, and yes, it eerily matches his apparent pattern.
According to the filmmaker, Elizabeth Wood, the film (including the rape scene) was informed by her experiences & those of close friends. I read that Wood was explaining the real story behind the scene to Morgan Saylor (the lead actress) in an actual closet when Noth burst in & basically insisted on hearing a rape story Wood didn’t necessarily want to broadcast.
Yes, he does. I was a fan but these women are
believable.
I hate rape scenes in film. Disturbing. They are not necessary. Gratuitous.
“In the criminal justice system, sexually based offenses are barely considered at all, because you were definitely asking for it in some way. Detectives are unlikely to investigate, especially if the man says you are lying. Even if you seek medical treatment, the backlog on evidence processing is soul crushing and the statute of limitations will expire beforehand anyway. If it does go to trail, you will be retraumatized and dragged through the mud. Don’t even bother reporting. These are just stories. Dun Dun!”
Nice one!
@Robyn – And therein lies the biggest problem. It why I (and God knows how many millions of others) just don’t report. I would’ve been crucified. Hell, the majority of the *women* in my life were hesitant to or flat out said that they didn’t believe me. To the point that I wasn’t sure *I* believed me. So why TF would the police???
But you know what? My rapist’s BEST FRIEND believed me. And confronted him. Made me realize that I *wasn’t* imagining what happened…and wonder how many women had not reported the rapist’s actions in the past.
Thank you for believing me without question, Michael.
Well played. Law and Order Chris Noth is the one I love. The one I want to believe he’s really like. But apparently he’s Big after all. A total dirt bag. (Peleton cannot catch a break. They should just give up and accept they’re always on the wrong side of #metoo).
What sucks so hard about this one is that even after what he did to Beverly, he still had a long, successful career, and is almost 70 now (I think?) so even if he’s punished now, he got away with it for DECADES. He might have been thinking of retiring from acting soon anyway, since apparently (I just learned this yesterday) he owns a tequila company? And he’s had half-ownership of The Cutting Room in NYC for years and years. He might have been trying to go the George Clooney route and still make $$ from things like that while dialing back on how many hours he actually worked? Who knows. But in the end, he got to enjoy many years with no repercussions.
So glad I didn’t invest any time into watching that piece of sh!t (both), AJLT… & Chris Noth.
Let me summarize. Cougars do better in London. Shoes. Heart attack. Shoes. Rapist.
Men with power and influence too often use it to abuse women – I’m at the point where I assume powerful men are trash until they prove me wrong.
Me too. What’s sad for me is when I read the headline for this post my first thought wasn’t disbelief that he raped someone, but was curious as to why their cases hadn’t been prosecuted. The fact that I’m no longer shocked by these stories is very depressing.
Or men who crave power. Some of the worst are the ones who feel they’re lacking the power they feel entitled to. (This is a weird aside, but I was recently thinking about how it’s sort of nice that Succession doesn’t paint the sons as rapists. Unrealistic probably, but nice that we can just enjoy the power grab without that side of it since it’s technically fiction).
When will you people learn to stop racing to conclusions off the back of media reports and allow due process to take place? Like the rest of you I don’t know what happened, so let this play out in a court of law. Trial by media and Kangaroo courts are for idiots.
Wing,
Which part of this statement do you disagree with? “Men with power and influence too often use it to abuse women”
I disagree with “I’m at the point where I assume powerful men are trash until they prove me wrong.” It flies in the face of innocent until proven guilty.
Which part of trial by media and Kangaroo courts are for idiots do you disagree with?
Wing, “innocent until proven guilty” means that we don’t fine or incarcerate people if they haven’t been convicted, not that they are spared the consequences of social pressure. No one is owed a platform, and it’s not illegal or unjust for him to lose fans over this. Particularly given how few rapists are ever tried, let alone convicted, suggesting that everyone has a responsibility to withhold personal judgment on the matter is ridiculous.
It’s also not a kangaroo court, a term you are wildly misapplying. It’s a public conversation.
@Wing
To add on to the excellent points @Nope made; as we’ve seen over the past several years, oftentimes there IS no due process in sexual assault cases until media coverage and public conversations draw attention to how badly the criminal justice system is failing.
Look at the case of the rapist Harvey Weinstein. HW was a predator & a criminal for decades, with no repercussions from law enforcement, even though his behavior was an ‘open secret’ in that industry. It wasn’t until media reports brought a national spotlight to the stories of some of his many victims that he lost his ‘untouchable’ status. If there were no media coverage or public conversation about his predatory behavior, Harvey Weinstein would not be in jail right now, he would still be actively harming people.
Or you could consider the case of Brock Turner, in which ‘due process’ at the time resulted in him spending only three months in jail after being convicted of three felonies for sexual assault. Media coverage and conversation resulted in CA changing its law to mandate a minimum 3-year sentence for the exact type of crimes he committed.
Whenever people are adamant that public conversation about sexual assault allegations shouldn’t happen until ‘due process’ has occurred, it sets off so many alarm bells to me. Victims bravely sharing their stories and the public’s interest in hearing and discussing them have a huge impact on holding predators *and* the criminal justice system accountable.
But you have no problem believing Noth right off the bat, why is that? Nothing wrong with believing victims, believing women.
I don’t believe or disbelieve Noth. I’ll just wait until the legal process has run its course and see what I think as it unfolds and reaches its conclusion. In regards to conversation, I’m all for it. I’m just not into leaping to conclusions until I hear all sides of the argument. But I conceede the point about due process not always happening and that sometimes what passess as due process in the courts is woefully inadequate.
Excellent points @ lemontwist. I’m glad you brought up the Brock Turner case. Chanel Miller (though her name wasn’t known at the time), the victim, was villified, crucified, sl&t shame through different media and commentaries. He was portrayed as the victim. The judge was recalled after that case too. I’ll never forget that Persky’s explanation for his decisions was that he thought a prison sentence would have a severe impact on Brock. FFS. Chanel’s memoir -Know My Name-is a good read. Triggering, yet healing to some extent. Her victim statement was excellent.
The Hollywood Reporter’s/victims story must have a lot of good sourcing and credibility. Noth is being dropped in different areas fairly quickly. It took a bit more time for another skeeve monster, Armie Hammer, to be dropped in similar areas.
I wasn’t a dedicated SATC fan. Liked him in L & O and Equalizer. I hope Queen Latifah equalizes Chris Noth. Very tired of all the atrocious/criminal behavior against women being hidden and excused. Those texts Noth sent are not the king that someone sends after a consensual situation.imo If you’ve ever received one like that…you know.
These women are incredibly brave to speak up.
They are! I am so upset what these women went through. I read THR article and they both sound credible and both of them were raped by Noth. I feel so bad for women when the rapist is a powerful person. Zoe was just a kid when he rapped her. The response from Noth makes me want to vomit.
Noth needs to be held accountable for his actions.
As one that was raped by a coworker, this brings all my nightmares back to the surface as well. I can’t imagine how I would feel seeing my rapist on the tv screen, but for these two women, I feel terrible for them.
A newspaper article from the 90s about model Beverly Johnson detailing in court how terrified she was of Chris Noth/his abuse after they dated has been revealed this week too. This is a dangerous man with a history of abusing women.
Also a history Of believing he did NOT abuse women. I can bet you real money that he will say they just regretted it and are trying to cash in on his fame. I can also bet you he ACTUALLY believes it! He is so far up his own a$$ that I doubt he can believe anyone would not want him.
I’m sure enough women over the years said yes because of his fame, that he just doesn’t hear no anymore. Which in some ways is worse because he will not change, ever. Why change if you believe you are not doing anything wrong?
@ LaraK, yes!! He doesn’t think he did anything wrong so why should he change? Noth will never change. It appears he has been an abusive douchebag since the ‘90’s. A man that beats a woman is one of the worst forms of abuse there is. Noth has been an abusive man his entire life, always harming women.
Noth should be held accountable!
I remember this! I thought they had a bad breakup and he beat her. It appeared and disappeared very quickly from news.
That was it! I was really confused when I read that Mr Big was in the new SATC thing, because I vaguely remembered that there were some MeToo accusations. With this news I also went, “wait, wasn’t there something already?” Thank you for reminding me what I was thinking of!
I was just coming to post about Beverly Johnson’s account of abuse from him. I echo all your comments. It’s truly despicable how he got away with it all these years.
He’s always had that vibe about him though, and so has his character Mr. Big. Honestly, I never understood why women liked that character so much, he had douchebag controlling abuser written all over him. It’s sad the actor who played him turned out that way too, but oh well, why are we still shocked men become a-holes when given the power and ability to get away with anything….
Re: Mr Big – yeah, I was never a fan of the character. he was always toxic and treated Carrie like crap. I guess lots of people are in toxic relationships like that, so maybe that part of it was realistic, but then to have him end up as Carrie’s savior or whatever was pretty bad.
as for noth – I’m surprised at the allegations but at this point very few of these allegations really surprise me, you know? How horrible for those women.
I always wanted Carrie to chose Aiden.
Yeah, her ending up with Big was the worst thing. I frankly don’t remember like 80% of the plot of that show now, but I remember that Aidan guy being the best thing that ever happened to Carrie. How sad the show portrayed Big as somehow better, for ANY woman.
Same, I never understood what women saw in him. He was very romanticised in the show but actually incredibly toxic
Just yesterday before these accusations I wrote on a CB comment that their phony so happy marriage scene made me want to puke. So rich, so happy, he’s so good to her she has freedom and wealth and her big closet! She wins! No, that’s not how it works in the real world.
Now it makes sense. She married the abuser so she could get the closet. She’s NYC version of Kate. Putting in a fake facade to sell to other women how important it is that they sell themselves to an abusive man so long as he has wealth and power.
I don’t think that Carrie choosing Big over Aiden was a way to portray Big as “better” but rather to portray Carrie as an emotionally immature, shallow, self-serving woman who’s incapable of making the right, moral decision.
I was always team Aiden, but I’m glad he didn’t end up with Carrie because he deserved way better than her. Carrie wanted a rich a-hole and that exactly what she got.
I have always thought Big and Carrie deserved each other, and Aiden was too good for her.
I think a lot of women liked Mr. Big because the show clearly wanted us to like Mr. Big. Like, the show really pushed the Carrie and Big angle. The show almost never called out how Big was lousy to Carrie, strung her along, etc. Even her alleged friends never really called out exactly how awful he was. I think a lot of people who watched the show never really watched it very critically – it was more a show about shoes and clothes and outrageous sex over substance. At least that’s how I always saw it.
im rewatching Sex and the City, and i think that the show until the last season at least, made it very clear that Big was toxic, and Miranda especially and even Samantha called out Carrie again and again over how bad he was for her but she wouldnt listen. This is why the ending in season 6 was so jarring, they clearly wanted to wrap the series up in a big bow.
You’re right. Which made me go and look up who was the principal writer and director, and well what do you know, it was a man of course
I know the show was based on a book originally, written by a woman, but I’ve never read it. I wonder if the same plotline happens in the book too and the main woman ends up with such a douchebag following a very unhealthy relationship portrayed as something “exciting” and “attractive” any girl would dream of..
Big and Carrie we’re both pretty toxic. That’s why the lovey-dovey ending of the original series rang so false.
Sex and the City, the novel, was written by Candace Bushnell. I just Google her name and Chris Noth & she likes him.
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/sex-and-the-city-candace-bushnell-chris-noth-mr-bigger
The ending of the Sex and the City series was like a romance novel. Girl gets rich guy.
To me, the ending wasn’t saying that Big and Carrie were a great couple but that Carrie was getting what she wanted after not wanting what she needed with Aiden and not needing what she wanted with Alexander.
And I always thought that the ladies’ support of Big in the end wasn’t support of an ongoing relationship but the knowledge that Carrie wasn’t happy where she was but would totally come home if Big showed up in some grand gesture.
The show itself made it pretty clear imo that Carrie and Big were similar in their toxic self centeredness
His character in Law & Order had the same vibe.
I met him at a jazz bar in NYC in 2004. He was drunk and kept flirting with me. Initially I was very excited about meeting him, but his slimy advances totally turned me off. I believe these women, I saw firsthand what kind of man he really is. Ugh.
@Becks I met him once, too (I actually have a photo with one of his arms around me and the other around my friend— which I’d like to find and burn now 😬) and it was around the same time— early 2000’s. We saw him in some off-Broadway show, and the theater was so small that there wasn’t even a stage door, the actors just walked out through the same exit that the audience did.
Since we were big SATC fans, we loitered around in the hallway waiting for him to come out. He was talking to a couple of people for a while, and obviously we didn’t want to interrupt him, so we kind of hung back (although I’m sure it was so obvious that we were totally stalking him, lol), and then after he was done with his conversation, as he started to walk away, we approached him.
We told him we were big fans, loved the play he’d just performed in, and asked if he would mind taking a photo with us. I really wasn’t sure how he was going to react— some celebrities act so put-upon about stuff like this — but he was actually very nice about it. He thanked us, asked us our names, and took the photo. (I think he even might have taken two because the first one didn’t come out well!)
But he never made us feel like we were a pain in his ass, holding him up since he wanted to get out of there asap, he seemed happy to chat for a minute, and never made us feel like we were harassing him or anything. Also, a good friend of mine lived around the corner from him when we were in law school, on University Place, so she saw him a lot, but never had any notable stories, I think they just passed each other often.
The encounter was so brief so I know absolutely nothing about his true character, but my opinion of him after that night was that he seemed like a pretty nice guy.
I worked with celebrities a lot in one of my former jobs, and not all of them treat fans that kindly (one of the worst I had to deal with was actually SJP’s husband, which was disappointing in a different way; just seeing how rude and obnoxious Ferris really was). So I actually *was* surprised when this story broke, but obviously I believe these women, and am just disappointed that he turned out to be like so many others.
Lorelei, all of this is just so disappointing and gross.
@Kitten: you’re back. You were gone for like two years. Where were you? Are you still with the paramedic?
Add his treatment of Beverley Johnson to his list of offences. He’s a terrible person and deserves jail time.
God, things used to be so much worse. The first black model on the cover of Vogue had to hire a bodyguard to protect her from Noth and the world just shrugged.
I have been seeing a lot of people come to his defence and scream ‘trial by media, what happened to innocent until proven guilty.’ I have to say the Alice Sebold case where a man was recently exonerated after spending 16 years on false claims left a bad taste in my mouth. I think its valid to wait and hear both sides through the justice system.(imho)
I mean, the Alice Sebold case was decided (wrongly) through the justice system…
I feel like these are two very different, unrelated issues. One is about systemic racism and the falibility of eye-witness identifications while the other is about not continuing to pay millions of dollars to a man credibly accused of rape for his continued portrayals of toxic men. It’s the equivalent of suspension without pay, not imprisonment for 16+ years.
I hear what you’re saying, but I honestly think ingrained racism in the police department contributed to that case turning out the way it did more than anything else.
And also, nobody is officially charging Noth with anything, so don’t worry about his potentially poor innocent a-s rotting in jail unfairly. The worst that’ll happen to him is losing his career, but I doubt he’ll ever end up behind bars for decades. He’s too white and rich for that.
This case and the Alice Sebold case are on two completely different planets. The accused are on opposite ends of the power spectrum. There’s a heaping pile of systemic racism that went into the wrongful conviction of Anthony Broadwater. Chris Noth is a powerful white man with a history of red flags around him that have been overlooked because of his status. Not even remotely the same thing.
Beating up Bev Johnson was not a red flag. It was criminal behavior. And we live(d) in a world were he escaped *any* responsibility.
Please don’t do this. They are not the same situation. Also Sebold was raped. The point of contention is she blamed the wrong man. Do you think these women mistook someone else for Noth?
Ok fair enough that the Alice case is on another spectrum,that may have been a reach. But can we agree that smear campaigns and PR takedowns do exist? It is an individuals perogative to believe which ever side but can we wait and hear from the other party involved(in the same details). The media is so powerful and can have people believing anything if the details and scenarios are right and repeated enough times. The BM managed to make half a nation hate Meghan because of ‘details’ and repition too. My point is innocent until proven otherwise.
I’m with you Noki… and I am a person who has been raped. Innocent until proven guilty.
what a severe case of “whataboutism”.
Totally different, here’s why:
There is little is dispute here. Noth has already conceded that he had sex with both these women – he is not denying it. The only thing in dispute here is the consent issue. Did they consent or not? That is something none of us can KNOW with 100% certainty – we were not there. It comes down to – who do you believe? Essentially, it is a credibility issue. And if you tend to believe Noth, you have to ask yourself, why? Why is he more credible then the women accusing him? What evidence does he has to support himself? What evidence do the women have? Well, they don’t know each other – they live in different cities. They’ve never spoken. They both tell very similar stories – from the lead up, to the act itself. That lends itself to greater credibility, in my mind.
Alice Sebold WAS raped. The issue in her case was that the justice system did not work as it should. We are supposed to have protections in place that make it so that defendants have protections, and those failed in her case. It failed her (because her attacker has never been caught) and it failed the man who was wrongly imprisoned. But don’t conflate the two.
You’re conflated two very different situations. The point in the Noth accusations is TWO women who did not know each other reported the same rape scenario years apart.
These accusations were checked out and found to be credible. That process isn’t nothing. It’s not just rando accusation.
Nope. I don’t need to wait for anything. I distinctly remember how he dragged Beverly Johnson though the mud years ago when she accused him of domestic violence. The man is trash, point blank period.
After Donald Trump and Brett Kavanaugh (and Andrew and so many others), I think it’s exceedingly obvious that rich white men are typically protected by but not bound by the law, in a way no one else experiences. Without making an absolute judgment in this one particular case, I can definitely say that in general that is how the system works. So I’m extremely suspicious of a rich white man saying of multiple different accusers that they were ALL lying. What’s far, FAR more likely is that he is lying. This is not condemning someone without a trial: this is simply acknowledging reality in the way the world works.
In 2015 I was raped by my then-boyfriend and never reported it. I’ve never told any of my friends or family. I knew no one would take it seriously plus I was inside a domestic violence situation that was broader and deeper and consumed my whole life and I couldn’t even conceptualize or name what was happening. There are many reasons women don’t say anything for years. I fully expected everyone to say I was lying and/or I would just be retraumatized by the police or traumatize my friends and relatives who had to hear about it.
We need to give women support when they speak up, not assume they may be lying. It is very rare for a woman to falsely accuse a man of rape. It almost NEVER happens. Let me qualify that to say a white man, because it is true Chris Noth’s situation is absolutely worlds apart from the railroading of Anthony Bridgewater and that Black men have historically been and still today are demonized and murdered by our racist legal system. Noth is going to have every advantage possible. Frankly I’d be extremely surprised if he even has to go to court.
I’ve been there, Emma. You come across as outaged, full of integrity, and strong. Bless you. I’ve been in your position.
I believe the storis I just read. There are details and the first lady called her boss, which she does not remember. Probably due to shock and trying to block it out. I hope the victims that have not been able to work through the trauma get the help they need now. These wounds should not be left unchecked.
I believe them as well. What haunts me the most is that Zoe was basically just a child, 22. I know she is an adult but at 22 you don’t have a great deal of life’s experience to help guide you.
The worst part is that Noth, and all of the other powerful, white men get away these vicious atrocities. Rape is a serious offense, it should be considered as dangerous as murder. The intent is purely vile.
Saraphina I also believe what I just read. There are dozens of witnesses who remember the behavior of the women after they were attacked. It is incredibly well sourced. I am so in awe of the courage of these two women for coming forward to tell the real story. Men like this need to be stopped. Especially since, as was stated above, they are too far up their a$$ to even conceptualize that they were in the wrong. He is a creepy power stalker racist. He needs to not be in a position to do this anymore.
The behavior of the women after they were attacked, the behavior of Noth before and after they were attacked… it’s all corroborated. It’s hard not to take this seriously.
Just as an aside, he is pretty old now but somehow looks a good 20 years younger than he is. I am not sure how his face has held up that well!
He clearly had a lift during his time on Criminal Intent. When he started on CI he was looking pretty haggard (I mean, he was already in his 50s and apparently has been a hard drinker all his life so could have just been normal aging plus partying taking their toll) and then in his second or third season he looked noticeably refreshed. His surgeon did great work., though — he doesn’t have a typical Hollywood Frankenface.
“I didn’t expect to write this kind of story about Chris Noth, and yet I’m not completely surprised.” @kaiser, I feel you on this. Their stories are horrifying and I believe them 100%.
Nothing surprises me anymore. The similarities are frightening. Queen Latifah will kick his ass right off her set.
I didn’t realize he was on that show, but agreed. I’ll be very surprised if that doesn’t happen, if she’s helping to produce it and has the power to do so.
Terrible men are why we can’t have nice things.
In SO many contexts, @Monica. If you make this into a bumper sticker, I will buy one.
Yes and yes.
There definitely is truth to that, from smaller things to opportunities and rights women are commanded to give up entirely just because there are terrible men out there.
I’m a die hard SATC fan. I loved Big at the time but then I was in several toxic relationships in my 20s, so I makes sense I would love that. Now a middle aged lady, I’ve looked back and realized what an ass he really was. Now in reality, we now know Noth is a serial rapist. A violent, sickening rapist. Like many of women out there, I’m a survivor and I feel lucky they weren’t violent like this. I’m not going to be able to watch the series because I can’t not know what I know now. These are very credible accusations. My heart goes out to all of victims because you know there are a ton more. Even his response of questioning the timing. It’s disgusting. I hope his wife leaves his sick ass.
So horrible, poor women having to go through that and to add the pressure of him being famous and powerful.
If one of them contacted them in April, why are we hearing about it only now? this is a huge story, why sit on it? I hope THR wasn’t protecting Chris Noth
It sounds like THR took the time to contact these women’s friends, coworkers, rape counselors, etc., to verify they had told them about these incidents when they happened before publishing (as good journalists should do).
^this^ they did the investigative work, which is evident in the article.
+1
I had the same question. Yes absolutely these stories must be carefully vetted and investigated before they are published (or at least they should be) and that takes time. But the story just happening to be published right after his character was killed off and not a minute before? Yeah, no, some favours were called in here.
Yes unfortunately. Too much money to be made by the series reboot so im positive producers begged publications to wait probably revealing he’ll be off after the first episode
Is this why they premiered the first two episodes together? So the funeral episode wouldnt air after this reveal?
Maybe it wasn’t as a favor to him, but to boost their own readership. Everyone’s been talking about Noth all week. Great time to drop this article for maximum impact.
Because they need to fact check the shit out of it to avoid a lawsuit. Publishing it now gets the most eyes on it. So yes, THR gets clicks but also, more women (and there are definitely more) will come forward and hopefully get some justice. The timing is not the issue – the crimes are.
Yeah…i would not say I disbelieve. He seems like the type. But this coming out now and not any time before is odd.
don’t know how you can say the timing is odd when both women buried their trauma and then had it shoved in their faces with the SATC/AJLT revival promos etc
like if my rapist was suddenly super famous and all over the news i might actually talk about it to more than my closest friends. but in that hypothetical, i also wouldn’t want to reveal my identity. and *also* in that situation, i know my rapist would say something with plausible deniability.
it happened over 15 years ago but he’s not rich, famous, powerful, i don’t even know or care if he’s dead or alive and i don’t want to know. but what if i was forced to know?
Can somebody please enlighten me once and for all when exactly is the “right” timing to report something like this? If she had reported right after it happened: “Oh how odd that she timed this while he’s in his career prime with SATC, she must be looking for a payday”. If she had reported a few years back: “Oh how odd that she timed this with the Me Too movement, she must be looking to jump on the bandwagon” Any other time no matter what: “Oh how odd she timed this when he is on Law and Order/is in a new movie/ is doing nothing at all and hasn’t been seen in years, why didn’t she report it when he was more famous?” So once again, when exactly is the “right” time?
I don’t care if the news was timed for maximum impact. Maybe if it came out at any other time it’d sink into obscurity like all the other accounts of his behavior. Whatever calculating shrewdness may be involved, it is NOTHING compared to what he is said to have done to these women.
This.
1) stories involving this kind of legal risk take FOREVER to fact check and lawyer and make sure they’re airtight – THR clearly did their footwork and the fact they got it to print as quickly as they did shows they’re pros – i don’t doubt it was a full-court press just to get this done in time
2) OF COURSE you aim to release the story when people are talking about Noth and googling Noth! If you believe the allegations are credible, you don’t want them to get buried – that’s not calculating, that’s making sure you do your duty by the victims who trusted you with their story.
3) generally, it’s gross to cast doubt on allegations because of “convenient timing” and suggests you haven’t taken two seconds to put yourself in the shoes of the victims – seems very reasonable that after years of trying to bury trauma suddenly seeing a lot of press about your r*pist would trigger action
You’re right.
Yes,I’ve been through the process and not only do you need a mountain of proof (which I had) and a second or third accuser whom you never knew or had contact with, but also people need to care enough for the work to pay for the publisher. His name wasn’t “big” pardon my pun, as in current, until now with the reboot.
Hopefully we won’t see SJP come out and defend him…
Oh, she will, mark my words. Eye roll.
Oh, god. That just reverberates like a tuning fork. I’d bet $$ we see that soon. 🤦♀️ Toxic women can be counted on to defend toxic men.
I read the THR article early this morning and felt sick. He preyed on *young* women, wielding his fame and their romanticization of his TV characters, and their accounts both showed they felt uncomfortable as his attentions escalated. TRUST YOUR INTUITION! 😩
Nevermind.
Thankfully they killed him off so I’m thinking she could lay low for this one but who knows..
Oh I don’t know – if it affect her paycheck, shows ratings and TV comeback opportunity she will.
She’ll definitely go with the “He never did anything to ME!” angle.
Exactly Robyn. Just like he came out and said that what Cattrall said about SJP was “not accurate in his experience” or however he put it.
I don’t see SJP defending him unless it interferes or bring bad media to “Sex in The City” . That’s the only thing she cares about.
Terrible. That he was able to have a career after Beverly Johnson made her complaints about him in the 90s says a lot about the industry.
Absolutely horrible. I 100% believe the victims. And the industry ignoring Beverly Johnson’s detailing of his horrible abuse during and after their relationship highlights the ways women of color’s victimization, but particularly Black women’s victimization, is ignored, downplayed, and diminished. Shameful. Not sure he’ll be held to account for any of his actions in legal terms (given statutes of limitations, etc.), but clearly time Hollywood makes him persona non grata.
I applaud these women for their bravery in coming forward with their stories. It’s rarely something you can do immediately; you need time to process the anger, fear, feeling of being sullied and spoilt, and worry about repercussions. I read their accounts – his dominance and desire to watch himself dominate them disgusted me. Like you, Kaiser, I read the report with an inner sigh of ‘another one’. It’s high time that toxic masculinity is buried and gone.
I didn’t expect this either, but not surprised. I know he will be defended by his co-stars/and other people who worked with. And I understand that accusations are just that, and we have a legal system in place to determine guilt…blah blah blah. But we have seen this same scenario played out time, and time again. Wealthy, powerful & connected men, think they can do whatever the FUCK they want. Especially to young, vulnerable women, involving a horrible power imbalance to keep them quiet.
I believe these women and applaud them for telling their stories xoxo
Keep them quiet by deleting their comments, too. 🙁
What stuck out to me about the stories from these 2 women was the mirror part (if you’ve read the story, you know). 2 women, who don’t know each other, with a story that was incredibly similar. How anyone can NOT believe these women is beyond me. I’ve never followed Chris Noth other than his roles. I hated Big but I will say he did a good job playing him and I liked him in The Good Wife but now I feel icky that I even liked him as an actor.
The mirror detail made me gasp – clearly he has a pattern, and there are probably more victims out there with a very similar experience. He’s a monster, I believe the women.
The mirror detail jumped out to me too. Very disturbing. I have a feeling there will be more victims speaking out soon.
Yep. Same exact pattern def lends credibility to the accusations.
I read about them last night, and when I got to that part….wow. Yes, there was a pattern, even if there are only two examples allegations right now. They were years apart and so similar, from the way he lured them right to the end. And I can understand why it took both of them a long time to be able to come forward.
I read the account of these brave women and I absolutely believe them. I hope that they received justice and that he never works again. I’m just so tired of these predators who are allowed to roam the earth and terrorize us. I am tired.
The actor Zoe Lister has reportedly accused Noth of ‘sexually inappropriate’ behavior and being drunk on a TV set. Disgusting.
I’m not surprised at all. I met him once at Chateau Marmont and he bullied me so much he made me cry. He was smoking cigars in the smoking section while drunkenly singing Beatles songs with another guest. I made the mistake of trying to sing along and he started verbally harassing and cursing at me. As I was leaving the hostess told me he was well known for being a dick and that no one liked waiting on him. He seemed completely entitled so I can see him thinking he’s also entitled to female bodies.
Sorry that happened to you, Delphine, and thank you for sharing it – the way people act in public, especially the way public figures act in public – says a lot.
Seriously, the sheer number of normies coming forward with stories of him being a drunken ass around them makes this alllllllll ring so true!
Wow….after reading the article, not only did I find these accounts completely credible, but my immediate takeaway was, “there has to be more victims out there.” There is no way in hell that this man took an eleven year sabbatical between two nearly identical rapes. Whether they come forward or not remains to be seen, but there are more victims, I guarantee it.
Absolutely. What are the odds his *only* two victims contacted THR independently? There are more out there.
Me too — Hollywood protects bad men and women who have suffered rape by these bad men know they will not be believed because the industry throws its entire weight behind them by portraying them as consenting gold-diggers, EVERY.LAST.TIME. I hope a legion of women come forward with their horror stories and Noth gets, at the very least, drummed out of the industry and at best is convicted of at least some of the crimes and does jail time. They got Harvey Weinstein, they’ll get him.
I wonder if this is part of why they killed him off in AJLT and they seem to be shading his character now too… We’ll see where the story goes but it has potential to be truer and more interesting than I’d imagined…
No, i don’t think that’s the case. I’ve read his death was planned at least five years ago. He was supposed to die in the never-made third film.
Ahhh I was thinking it would be an interesting turn to find out he’d had a whole secret life all along, which if this were truer to the character’s past cheating, his job (RE in NYC), his general lack of transparency, would be v cool to uncover now. Could mirror all of the revelations about the other Big’s of that time like Brad Pitt on and on and on… But I know that would be a whole diff story : – ) And they seem to be really leaning into the idea of Carrie being the love of his life.
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When I lived in Brooklyn in the early aughts it was well known he frequented certain bars and was super creepy. What a disappointment.
I live near his apartment in NYC and he’s clearly the type who takes any opportunity to “connect” with admiring fans who are young and cute. I’ve avoided his creepy gaze more than a handful of times passing him on the sidewalk.
Peloton can’t catch a break tho…
LOL
Lol. And just like that, this series is gonna tank.
I dunno. after all, they killed him off, so technically, he isn’t in it anymore. if it fails, it will be on account of being one of the worst written cringeworthiest shows on TV. But then again, I think most people watch it for nostalgic reasons. Those who dropped out, did so after the first movie.
@Tanguerita: right before this story broke, I read a vague quote from him; he was extremely coy about it, but he said something to the effect of, “you might see more of me” — I forget the exact wording but it was along those lines. So maybe there are flashbacks? And if so, will they edit them out now? SMH. This one is a real disappointment.
Zoe Lister-Jones also came out last night talking about his predatory behavior toward her. Very disturbing, and sadly not surprising to me. But honestly, there are very few men in Hollywood I’d be shocked to learn this about.
The stories about him on Lipstick Alley are hair raising. Always woc in their early twenties, all targeted in similar ways. I believe these women. I wonder if the crew behind SATC were tipped off about this coming out?
A “friend of a friend” who was a model and young lack woman said he aggressively pursued her in NYC on the street.
….and this is why we can’t have nice things. F-k. sigh. My support to the victims, known & unknown.
+1
I had no idea about his past known behavior with women. Horrifying to find out it’s even worse.
He did that sh&t guilty as F&. Yes to the poster who mentioned LSA absolute hair raising and frightening. I an anonymous nobody left a message of support on Zoe Lister-Jones’ IG. Sick and tired of the abuse of women. Charge him and lock him up.
What kind of messed up is a person to enjoy and get off by having sex (raping) who is crying and saying no? I. Do. Not. Get. It. Seriously. I am disgusted. What an incredible creep.
He’s always been a perv in my eyes. His acting drips with conceit. But I certainly didn’t expect rape. Hang him.
‘iconic (if dysfunctional) romantic hero’s
IF dysfunctional? IF? LMAO
And just like that, I’ll bet Kim Cattrall is even more relieved than ever to not be part of this shit show!
I bet Cattrall has always known–at the very least, she has great instincts.
Don’t forget what he did to Beverly Johnson. Yet he went on and did a ton of shows after and had consistent work. Why is it so hard to believe women and especially women of color?
This is sickening. I believe the accusers too. Hope he is prosecuted and convicted, and that these brave survivors get justice and peace they need to heal. As a survivor – i refuse to call myself a victim – I have so much empathy and compassion for these strong women. My rapist – who was also my husband & abuser – had me absolutely petrified to report him. When I finally left him, he gaslit me and convinced a few family members that I was lying about it for attention and to get out of the marriage. Completely understand why someone would not report it and just try to move on.
I read a recent interview where Noth talked about how he was “really annoyed” by the fame SATC brought him. He literally said “I don’t like being called a character’s name on the street and actors don’t like (characters) sticking to them.”
I actually burst out laughing because when I lived in NYC I actually ran into him a few times at Starbucks and another coffee shop in the West Village. Each time, he was wearing his cast/crew jacket from the SATC movie. Can you get more thirsty than that? Dude WANTED people to recognize him, and I absolutely believe that he used his fame/status to lure these women into compromising situations. What a creep.
@Mo I am lmfao at this! I get that it must be frustrating for some actors to be so closely associated with one role that they feel pigeonholed and it affects their career options. I remember Jason Alexander once complaining about always being known as George Costanza, but I was kind of like, my dude, if you hadn’t been George Costanza, no one would even know who you are, so…
I’ve always hated Big.
If I remember correctly, back in the 90s he was infamous for hanging out at B.Smith in NYC and had a bad rep there.
No , not Logan 😞
I was wondering if he did this on the set of SATC.
I also was wanting to hear more and then more women came out.
The late 90s early 2000s pin up boy for rich white women, heh?
I feel sorry for his wife.
I disliked the last SATC episode when she ended up with Big. He mistreated her ditching her for Natasha. She behaved badly cheating on Aidan and sneaking around with Mr Big while he was married to Natasha.
I wanted her with Aidan but since he has a bad real life rep now too, we need a whole new character for Carrie. Lol
Anyone notice the bruises on the thighs of the above lady in orange dress standing next to him?
Yes I did notice the bruises on her thigh.
The lady in the orange dress is his wife and mother of their 2 sons, one 13 and the other 1. Can you imagine what she must be going through…
A third accuser has come forward. Daily Beast just put out an article about it. I think they’re about to come out of the woodwork. His tequila deal just fell through and I all I have to say to that is good. The bigger they are, the harder they fall.
Yes and her story sounds simar to other two. Imagine this guy walking around being worshipped while ruining 3 (probably more) women’s lives
Just as we predicted — I think you’ll see a tsunami of women coming forward to complain about everything from inappropriate language to full-on groping and rape. That this has gone on for so long is incomprehensible. Of course he can fight the allegations with sleazy lawyers who will blame the women, as usual, but his life as an actor and all the high-paid work he get schilling stuff is coming to a screeching halt. He and his wife have two kids, one 13 and the other just 1. I wonder how she’ll be able to cope with this or will we see her filing for divorce? I feel so sad for her and the older son who will undoubtedly find out about it.
A reporter is asking NYU girls to tweet her about any encounters they had with Noth. It sounds like he was prowling around there for years.
@Minx…jeebuz, this just gets worse and worse. Stalking young girls at NYU…can’t get much lower than that. Like I said…his poor wife and son.
“He once approached a friend (we were 19) and very blatantly asked to have sexy facetimes with her, in exchange for dinners. She said “no, I’m 19 and have a boyfriend,” he said, “no one will have to know.” This was in the middle of the day in downtown Manhattan, he smelled bad.”
What a disaster. Why are there so many sh*tty men who do this? Won’t be surprised if more women come forward.
I always believe the accuser.
At the same time belief innocent until proven guilty. My hubby day how can u be both. I have no clue.
“Innocent until proven guilty” is a legal phrase. It means that we don’t put people in prison or fine them for crimes they have not been convicted of in a court of law.
This does NOT mean that anyone needs to disbelieve victims or continue to be a fan of a person who has standing accusations or other obvious evidence against them.
I don’t always believe the accuser! Woman lie too. There are a ton of sleazy selfish, manipulative woman out there.