The Mail’s Becky English wrote an epic story about the Duchess of Cambridge ahead of her fortieth birthday (January 9). The piece isn’t all “insider” quotes – English quotes named sources at length, like Kate’s current private secretary, Rebecca Deacon/Priestley. Ordinarily, no one currently working for a royal primary would be caught dead being a named source for the Mail. But I guess the Mail and the Cambridges still continue to have their suspiciously cozy relationship, especially given that the Keens authorized Jason Knauf to turn over evidence intended to harm the Duchess of Sussex’s case against the Mail. Does the Mail “own” William and Kate, or is this just a mutually beneficial (or mutually parasitic) situation? In any case, this story is so long and there are so many ridiculous parts, I need to split up this Mail piece into two posts.
This is Part 1, and these quotes are about Kate’s (lack of) work ethic, how she always understood that it was a “fool’s errand” to try to be the next Diana, and how Kate is not self-absorbed in the least, which is likely why Kate and her staff organized this and many other embiggening stories to fluff her up for her 40th.
Kate will be the Princess of Wales by her next landmark birthday (after 40): As with everything associated with the Royal Family, her apprenticeship as future queen has been slow. Too slow, say some. But, astutely alert to the royals’ unflustered ways, Kate has refused to be rushed. Of course, one of our monarchy’s immutable strengths is its repudiation of the modern fad to bend to prevailing fashion. Significantly, too, Kate has brought another unswerving value to the Royal Family: the Middletons’ way of doing things. Steadfast and unflashy.
Rebecca Priestley, Kate’s private secretary: Priestley worked for the duchess for seven years, recalled how newlyweds William and Kate approached the daunting task of a life committed to public service together as if it was a ‘blank piece of paper’. All three were in Anglesey in 2011, where the couple had chosen to spend their first years of married life while William worked as an RAF Search and Rescue pilot. Rebecca says of their conversation: ‘I said: ‘Right, what next? You have the philanthropic world at your feet. There are so many directions you can go in terms of causes you can get involved in. Catherine [as William prefers her to be known] had clearly put a lot of thought into it and made very clear that, for her, it was about listening and learning.’
Kate never wanted to become the next Diana? Some critics felt frustrated at the new duchess’s cautious approach, and she was cruelly dubbed the Duchess of Dolittle. The public had waited years for a young, glamorous new member of the Royal Family, but, wisely, Kate realised it would be a fool’s errand to try to take on Diana’s mantle. Instead, she assumed more the Queen Mother’s ‘steel marshmallow’ character. ‘Catherine wanted to get under the skin of this new role and the challenges she was about to take on,’ says Rebecca Priestley. ‘She wanted to learn. There were a lot of under-the-radar visits and she saw people privately to help her understand the issues she wanted to put her name to. These were lifelong decisions she was taking. She wanted to have credibility when she spoke. And that actually takes huge strength of character.’
Kate isn’t self-absorbed: Heads Together — the mental health campaign fronted by William, Harry and Kate — was her idea. ‘Not that she would ever be so self-absorbed as to tell you that,’ another friend says. Rebecca says: ‘It’s been wonderful to see Catherine achieve what she wanted to and it’s all the more powerful because it is so genuine. Mental health, the Early Years and addiction are all being talked about more openly because of her interventions.’
The Queen is okay with Kate: The Queen has nothing but admiration for her and feels comforted that the future of her dynasty appears assured. Prince Philip was also a particular source of support for Kate — often writing her ‘very warm and loving’ letters. By then, she had lost her own grandparents, so his advice was much-welcomed and he became something of a role model.
She finds it difficult to be a working mother: According to another source, it has ‘not been easy’ for Kate to combine being the mother of three young children with fulfilling a busy schedule of public duties. ‘She’ll be the first person to say how lucky she is to have the help of a nanny and staff. But going from being a mummy, worrying if a child is not well or had a good day at nursery, to transforming herself into a public figure and shining at an evening reception is tough emotionally. Ultimately, her children are her priority.’
Nursery drop-offs? I have been told by several different sources that as a first-time mother, Kate struggled initially to cope with the adjustment of doing the nursery drop-off, then racing to London for meetings and to attend official functions such as state dinners. This was particularly the case when William was an air ambulance pilot in Norfolk, often leaving the house himself at 5.30am. Kate worried whether she and William would ever be able to create a sense of normality for the kids. ‘But Catherine is not a quitter and she determined that she and William needed to work harder at finding a better balance for their family,’ says a friend.
Kate organizes staff: Of course, they have help from their nanny and a housekeeper. But Kate is very much a hands-on mother and, as a member of staff says: ‘It’s all about organisation. If there’s an evening event, Catherine tends to get her hair ready between meetings during the day so she can finish up while the children are eating dinner, which allows her the time to put them to bed. Her attitude is always ‘we will just make it work’. And nowadays, she has more confidence [during the planning process] to say: ‘No, that is too much for that week.’ ‘
Kate has found an ally in Prince Edward’s wife, Sophie Wessex. Seventeen years her senior, the countess is a confidante and a sounding board. They both, I’m told, ‘repeatedly’ reached out to Meghan after she first spoke of her unhappiness in 2019. However, I am also told that both Kate and Sophie were ‘rebuffed’.
Kate welcomed Meghan!! There is no doubt Harry and Meghan’s acrimonious departure from the Royal Family, and repeated attacks on it, have deeply upset Kate and William. The duchess has been accused by some in the Sussex camp of being ‘cool’ towards Meghan — an accusation those close to her vehemently deny. ‘As individuals, they have nothing in common. But Catherine wanted to see Harry happy and felt she was very welcoming to Meghan,’ one friend tells me.
The crying at the 2018 bridesmaids’ dress fitting: As the Queen might say, recollections may vary as to who made whom cry. I’ve been reliably told that the account which suggests it was Meghan’s behaviour towards Kate’s daughter, Charlotte, possibly over whether she should wear tights, that prompted the dispute is ‘broadly true’. Meanwhile, the allegation that the notoriously private Kate schemed to have details of the incident leaked to the media (in fact, there was a number of witnesses present) is laughable. In short, it is her maxim to stay out of family rows.
“Kate struggled initially to cope with the adjustment of doing the nursery drop-off, then racing to London for meetings and to attend official functions such as state dinners…” After her giving birth to her first two children, she had lengthy maternity leaves and after those leaves, she would maybe work one day a week. As for nursery drop-offs, she has at least one full-time nanny AND no one forced the Keens to spend all that time in Norfolk, necessitating a “race” to get to London. They were always supposed to be London-based in the first place.
As for creating Heads Together and “Not that she would ever be so self-absorbed as to tell you that” – she literally is that self-absorbed, because “sources” have given her credit for it from its inception. That was also why she and William took credit for all of Harry’s work too, because “Kate created Heads Together.” Will and Kate have done f–k all with it since Harry left too.
The Meghan stuff – as I said, I’m splitting this up into two posts. Kate can’t exist without sniping at Meghan, that’s Kate’s whole persona now. She and Sophie were “rebuffed” by Meghan, oh no. And once again, Kate returns to her favorite worry stone, the bridesmaids’ dress fitting and the ever-changing story about what actually happened and how Kate is the wronged party. I’ve lost count of how many different versions KATE has promoted. What an a–hole.
As for what Rebecca Priestley says about how Kate “clearly put a lot of thought into it and made very clear that, for her, it was about listening and learning” – Kate knew from the very start that she didn’t want to work, that no one should expect her to do anything but pose for pie chart photos and take credit for the work of professionals. This whole thing (Kate) is asinine.
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Meghan and Harry were engaged in 2017 and Kate/Sophie waited until 2019 to reach out to her? How kind of them.
Exactly! And I would bet a million dollars they were dispatched to try and convince her to drop her lawsuit. I’m sure the courtiers thought that getting the other married in to talk to her would make her understand what her place is.
At that point Meghan and Harry had one foot out the door. The time to reach out was when she first joined the family. They did nothing to make her feel welcome and largely ignored her.
Probably a case of far too little, far too late and the reaching out was probably based on orders from TQ because of appearances. M and K were both at Wimbledon in 2019 and Meghan seemed friendly toward Kate so it’s a lie anyway. That was when Kate’s “sources” put out that she “invited Meghan to sit in the royal box” like that was up to Kate.
@Emily: If true, (I suspect that they did not reach out to Meghan) I don’t know how Sophie and Kate expected Meghan to be receptive to them when they caused her so much grief in the past.
Also what does it mean that she rebuffed them? I’m sure she was polite but at that point she had their number and wasn’t going to sit around and chat and say anything that could be used against her.
A real life fairytale landed in the BRF’s lap with Harry and Meghan. It was a PR dream. They could have worked that “happily ever after” to erase all the sins of their past. Instead, they bullied them out of the family and the country. Stupid is as stupid does.
Mac, I know we talk a lot about this on here – or we used to – but it just drives me crazy because you are right. H&M were a PR dream in every way – their work ethic, their very visible love for each other, their way of connecting with people, their popularity, etc.
Being nice to Meghan and allowing her and Harry to thrive would have been the best thing for that family. Remember how much positive PR Charles got after the wedding, from walking M down the aisle, to walking out of the church with Doria and camilla on his arms, having H&M at that garden party where they seemed to have a good time together, etc. It was all a big win for Charles!
Then for some reason he – and the rest of the Firm – threw it all away, while the whole world was watching.
Yep. 💯
So much public goodwill was handed to the RF on a silver platter at that time and they just totally blew it. They’re their own worst enemy.
No. Kate never reached out. She was threatened by Meghan’s strong global presence because she was a big hit the minute she and Harry first stepped out to greet the UK. She was shook by Meghan’s impact. Kate never reached out even at the last moment when she could have shown some moments of kindness and basic manners. Remember the Commonwealth Service when she totally iced Meghan out and gave her the mean villain look?
This woman is so embarassing and cringe
…especially regarding Buttoned Mutton saying ‘no’ to ‘too much’ work. She does about one event a week; she records meetings with her secretary as work! And as for the tights fiasco – all that shows me is someone who is determined to win the narrative at all costs. And that narrative is that Meghan was the Angry Black Woman who disturbed a white woman’s fragility.
The reason I never ever believed Kate’s narrative on the run up to the wedding is who the hell would cry over tights?! Seriously!
So fu***ng insufferable! She has the hardest life, everyone is mean to her, she has way too much work and not enough support, it’s hard to get her hair done, it’s hard to helicopter around the country from country home to city home, childrens tights has been the greatest hardship in her life for the past 4.5 years! So whiney for someone so privileged. Nothing is ever her fault and everyone is always so mean to her apparently, expecting her to be, like, um….doing things…? when all she wants to do is lounge around her multiple mansions, watching the nanny look after her children.
This! What a completely accurate summation of all things Kate.
This BS article calls Kate cautious, unflustered, and refused to be rushed. Another name for all these is LAZY. Why not just go to the point ?
When 5 phone calls to 5 different people in one day count as 5 engagements, then you know they are scraping the bottom of the barrel to try to make her look good.
💯 agree. Her infantilism is embarrassing as a woman and a functioning adult. Her mean girl bitchiness is disgusting. Release all the stories you want Kate. Everyone knows who you are at this point.
It’s interesting how they’re focusing now on the “matter” of the Kate vs Meghan crying issue, and not on what they published and never clarified for years. They clearly stated that Meghan made Kate cry, and now they’re repeating useless info on the situation, but not on how they were caught creating a distortion of the truth to sell papers.
I think if Meghan had said or done something they would put out precisely what happened, not the vague “broadly true”. I bet M said something to Charlotte about not having to wear tights because it was going to be hot and Kate went off the deep end about protocol. I hope this inspires M to put out a statement about precisely what happened.
@equality
Meghan already said her piece. It’s pointless to try and re-litigate the situation again. It would just be giving the RRs what they want.
@equality they are doing this to force meghan into responding and she should never respond to this. ever. they know that kate’s white fragility appeals to a certain demographic and they are goading meghan to respond to this particular story and to deny that kate and sophie reached out to help.
Or the Fail is trying to goad Meghan to release the apology note, which would mean copyright infringement and a lawsuit of Kate vs. Meghan. Meghan won’t do that. The only way the contents of that note would get out sideways is as part of a Scillings investigation into the abuse Meghan got from W&K&Knauf&KP.
@nota But the note’s contents could be paraphrased and reported on, like the MOS would have gotten away with if they had restricted themselves to that with Meghan’s letter.
From the Oprah interview, Meghan declined to elaborate on what exactly happened when asked because she said Kate apologized. She also said there was no disagreement. She clearly stated Kate said something that hurt her feelings and it made her cry. She also said that she would never have put that information out in the world, would never have let that out and kept it in the room. I think Meghan has nothing more to say about it while the fact that Kate continues to spin about it shows that she can’t let it go and is either angry or embarrassed her lie was debunked in a very gracious way.Even way before the Oprah interview, they started spinning different versions of the crying Kate story because the Tatler article made her look like a control freak who tried to hijack the bride’s wedding.
@selene: It sounds like they are trying to make excuses for why kate was mean. And instead of just admitting that is was 2 women under stress that simply butted heads, they are trying to justify it by saying that meg was mean to Charlotte. I don’t know about you but if someone was mean to my child i wouldn’t then later write an apology note and send flowers. And i don’t think kate would either
Exactly. Meghan gave Kate a HUGE out in the interview about this – saying she was going through some things, that it was a stressful time overall, that maybe Kate wasn’t allowed to correct the story, that Kate was a good person.
But we keep getting various defenses and explanations for why the original story was, in fact, sort of maybe kind of true, if you just look at it the right way – even here, its painted as Kate having no choice BUT to make Meghan cry bc of the way Meghan spoke to Charlotte.
I just keep thinking that the whole incident is tied a lot more to William’s affair than we realize and that’s why there is a desperate scrambling to keep the real story from getting out.
This is an excellent point. If Meghan were mean to Charlotte (she was NOT), there’s no way Kate would apologize to HER. You only send someone flowers and a note if YOU were the offender, and you were also a bit worried that the person you hurt might put you on blast.
@Chloe it wasn’t both women butting heads. Kate made MEG cry. Kate apologized and sent flowers to Meghan. Kate was being an asshole at another woman’s wedding.
Totally this. Kate was upset because she had learned about the affair around that time and so Meghan understood why she flew off the handle about the bridesmaids dresses even though she was not right to do so.
But kate is still trying to throw the blame on Meghan for this despite not correcting the lie in the media after years. At this point Meghan should just post a photo of the note and the flowers kinda blurry but making sure the C monogram is visible to shut this beyotch down. It’s beyond disgusting that she is still trying to using the crying story against Meghan.
I agree. If someone had mistreated my child, I certainly would not go out of my way to give them flowers and a note. And I agree with @Becks1 that this incident was related to William’s affairs. Kate found out about them (maybe it was the Rose one maybe it was another one) and took her anger out on Meghan. She realised what happened (and maybe to stop Meghan from spilling the beans. Not that she would IMO), Kate apologised.
It’s why we’re getting a different story about it every month. It goes beyond wanting Kate to be the victim, it’s to cover something else.
A few weeks ago, they tried the angle that Kate was 1) crying and 2) justified because Kate was so upset Meghan was ‘bullying’ KP staff. This is typical poor messaging from Kate, same thing she did around ditching the Irish Guards. She put out three different lies as to why she did it, trying to find the one that the Rota and public liked best.
@Chloe … But they, the ‘she was tired, worried about William, had a hangnail,’ defenders of Cate did the same thing after she mean-girled Harry and Meghan–with resting B-face–at the March 2020 Commonwealth Day ceremony. They had to make an excuse because Cate’s actions were caught on TV for all to see.
And why do the RR keep rewriting history about Harry and Meghan’s departure by saying it was ‘acrimonious’ when it was anything but? Harry and Meghan graciously completed final commitments with smiles and attention to detail. There was no anger or pettiness, yet the RR write about that time like Harry and Meghan were stomping around having temper tantrums over every little thing, flagging their noses while sticking their tongues out at the Queen on the way out the door.
Wouldn’t be surprised if the only reason Kate sent a note and flowers to Meghan in the first place was because Harry had a chat with her about whatever went on. Nothing we’ve heard or seen from Kate leads us to believe she’d care enough to think of doing it herself, or even consider that she might be the one at fault. Harry though at that point was probably the only one whose opinion Kate still cared about, so she was willing to appear to make amends. Of course, once Harry made it clear Meghan had his total loyalty, all bets were off. Could see Kate then carrying a grudge against Harry, and feeling incensed that she, the FFQ, not only stooped to making an apology, but Meghan later announced it to the entire world. Hence, the story that will.not.die, and attempt #1082 to explain it in a way that will finally make everyone feel sympathy for our dear Kate because of what mean Meghan did.
@JT: Thank you SO MUCH for your remark above. That statement by Chloe saying that it was just 2 women butting heads, under stress (so, they’re even, right?) simply elides the truth, which was that Kate made Meghan cry. Regardless of whatever stress or fit of bitchiness Kate was going through, it wasn’t Meghan’s fault. Kate, or her people, then went to the press with a manufactured story that was meant to malign Meghan, then let that lie stand for years. Now, after Meghan corrected the lie, Kate and her people are moving the goalpost, so don’t let them by adopting the new lie that they BOTH upset one another.
Okay people, call me crazy, I am a mum of 5. If some woman, any woman had yelled at my child or children and upset them to the point of tears, I won’t be sitting there crying, I would be ripping them a new skin. Furthermore if that person that upset my child thinks I would then be sending them flowers after what they did to my child, well then that person must be crazy. Kate is a liar . And a very bad one at that . She is a selfish,self centered B . Who got pissy because Harry fell in love with someone who wasn’t her. She never cared for him. She waited two years later to see if the woman married to the man she supposedly cared for was okay? Like no . F Kate and sophie but mostly F Kate.
@Over it … And Meghan has receipts in Cate’s note of apology. I wonder if Cate spells out why she sent flowers and apologies in the note?
I think she’s jealous of H&M relationship seeing hers going in shambles (plus she’s a racist a-hole).
they don’t deny that Kate made Meghan cry. They say the story re tights is “broadly true” wtf does that mean.
They just keep saying accounts might differ. That’s not a denial.
I wonder if the reason we are getting so many versions of the crying story is also because Camilla Tominey got the story from Kate in the first place (if not directly, then via Ma Middleton). If Kate is feeding the press false stories then that gives Tominey something to hold over her head, so they need to find another narrative. Trouble is, they’re trying too many of them.
I also believe it was the Middletons who gave Camilla Tominey the breaking story, that Harry and Meghan were dating.
The Middletons leak to the press more than we know of. the way uncle Gary was comfortable saying that kate should be queen NOW.. this is an entire family of social climbers who won’t be satisfied until they get to be the top of the top
I think it’s only copyright infringement if you try to make money off the note. If someone took a photo of it and posted it to social media without running ads, etc., it would be okay. Plus the laws in the US are different than the UK. It would be like when Tristan’s baby momma leaked his text messages to her. I bet the English tabs would lie and say that it was the same thing and call Meg a hypocrite, though if she did do that.
(She wouldn’t.)
The published comments about Kate are basically gossip of what’s been happening between the royal family members. Why isn’t Kate being investigated for leaking private family matters to the press?!
the problem with regurgitating tights-gate is that everyone then remembers something that should have been put to bed a long time ago. it doesn’t make kate look good to anyone. and her stans will always think Meg was horrible, and the fail readers will all think meg what horrible, and the Meg stans will know the truth and the people who don’t care will keep wondering why any of this crap matters? the UK is suffering under all that’s going on at the moment with supply chains, covid etc and someone crying at a wedding dress fitting of super wealthy people, that happened nearly 4 years ago, is a really weird hill to die on.
This whole piece is so unhinged i don’t know where to start
Let me just say that i would have rebuffed her too if she would reach out only after i had to shame her and other royal family members publicly for being cold (south africa documentary)
And i’m all here for kate finding her feet first but i think we can all agree that 10 years is way too long. Its embarrassing that they are trying to make excuses for it. A whole grown woman.
@Chloe … But doesn’t this DM piece smell a lot like the Tatler “Catherine the Great” magazine piece that got Cate so hot and bothered because it said all the extra work put on her by the ‘selfish Sussexes’ leaving was too much? That story was supposed to be a puff piece but turned into a hit piece, but the purpose is the same: Cate is too wonderful for angels and is too involved with her children and Big Willy to be bothered by pesky work. As long as she keeps a ‘stiff upper lip’ and merely ‘looks’ the part, all is well.
Nope. The tone is completely different. The Tatler piece was incredibly snide in a way that this piece isn’t. And one of the reasons Kate threw a tantrum about the Tatler piece is the fact that it is a magazine that the aristocrats read.
It feels very tongue in cheek, damning with faint praise while highlight how she’s done nothing for 10 years. Or the last 20 for that matter.
@ArtHistorian … Cate was caught off guard by the Tatler story because the Editor is a school chum and she’d had tea with his mother during the weeks leading to release of the story. However, the writer who wrote the Tatler piece evidently didn’t get the memo. I think Cate was promised a bit of fluff but got a bit of real. 🙂
@notasugarhere — I agree, this is damning with faint praise. Even to the use of the word “unflashy” to describe her style. We all clearly remember the numerous Marilyn Moments where she flashed her bits for all the world to see.
Yvette, this article is interesting, because it’s actually stating a good many facts about the FFQ-C. I really enjoyed this “she assumed more the Queen Mother’s ‘steel marshmallow’ character.” Yep, I bet she does and is truly a very unpleasant steel marshmallow to be around. She has taken all of this time because ‘Catherine wanted to get under the skin of this new role and the challenges she was about to take on.’ This is a good a reason of any for why she doesn’t work but instead plays at it. Also, is that shade being thrown about the whole learning thing? It’ pretty obvious to me that she doesn’t put any effort into learning anything, and she wants it that way.
I think someone has been reading the comments here and repeating them in the paper with a “positive” twist. This article doesn’t do her any favors, though. Geeeeeez, I’m glad that no one has ever talked about me the way they talk about her. I’m also quite happy to sit back and laugh at their attempt to make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.
“Of course, one of our monarchy’s immutable strengths is its repudiation of the modern fad to bend to prevailing fashion” is, in my opinion, the real chef’s kiss in this piece.
Because “bend to prevailing fashion” actually means “acknowledge reality and enter the 21st century.”
I really wonder how long the British monarchy will last after QE II’s death.
Old monarchies have only survived because they changed with the times – the feudal English monarchy of the medieval age was very different from the Tudor monarchy of the Early Modern age, and the Tudor monarchy was very different from the Georgian incarnation, etc.
The idea that the British monarchy is an unchanging 1000 year-old institution is a nationalist fiction. Insisting that they cannot/must not change at all could very well sound the death knell – but I suspect that they will be forced to change because the political establishment still want it to exist.
The only thing I believe here is Kate saying “We’ll make it work” all the time. I’m sure that’s her excuse not to prepare for anything.
We don’t need to put in effort, we’ll just make it work somehow. This totally fits with lazy Kate’s “just wing it” attitude.
I think she is really saying “we’ll make up work” because that’s the only effort that seems to happen. How to find new ways to boost numbers without actually doing anything more.
She’s saying, ‘Staff will make up work, no need for me to lift a finger’.
Stock photos from the Duchess of Stagecraft, I’m here for the pictures, pretending to be a COO. You can’t speak of work when you never had a job, earned money, or paid bills. I’m halfway curious if she had or knows what a chequing account is? Reconciled a cheque book? Debits and credits? How about managing the household accounts on a fixed allotment? More likely than not, all the bills went straight to her mother, as all of their bills now go to Charles.
As for Rebecca English: it is a tale/Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,/Signifying nothing. Maybe idiot is a bit heavy handed, but she is a useful empty vessel making noise.
We saw just how welcoming they were at the commonwealth service 2020 where they acted so childish deliberately ignoring Meghan and excluding her and Harry from conversations. Kate and Sophie were so badly behaved and they cannot rewrite that moment caught on video try as they may.
Kate was a bitch at that service over a dumb procession so it’s pretty obvious kate is that petty vindictive person we all said she was from day one. This woman has been observed for decades now and she never has a kind action for any woman she thinks is competition.
There are so many versions of this crying story coming from one person. Was it bc Meghan was bullying staff or was she bullying charlotte? I’d say I’m surprised that Kate is bringing her daughter into this more but I’m not. Yep, she is not a nice person. And this whole article is trying to give so many reasons and justifications to show that she is not actually a mean girl. It’s like her team has a list of everything said about Kate on SM and they are going down that list and refuting each item.
Lurker8 and nic919-what’s interesting though is that the CW service isn’t even mentioned in the article but all our minds go there when thinking of Kate. Has any source or reporter tried to spin why her behavior was so terrible that day? It wasn’t explicitly mentioned but I guess bc she was supporting William idk?
Plenty of Meghan haters (aka Kate ‘stans’) insisted Kate acted that way because Meghan was destroying the monarchy. Meaning they think Kate is completely justified in abusing the WOC for anything – just because. Remember, most Kate ‘stans’ are rabid Drumpf supporters.
Yeah, the comparison to the queen mother as a “steel marshmallow” is NOT a compliment. The queen mother was … not a nice person.
@Emma, yep, the comparison to the QM is not a compliment. Oddly?, Rebecca English wrote an article in October 2011 embiggening CarolE, in which RE called/compared CarolE a ‘steel marshmallow’ (the reference to QM was made).
Will the real ‘steel marshmallow please stand up, please stand up?
The Queen Mother was a social climbing crow who coveted other people’s shine/shiny objects. She was a behind the scenes manipulator that was jealous of other woman and a racist. QM also didn’t correct a false story until she had to and still managed to slip in some petty. So..it is kind of a perfect comparison.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/sep/15/tanya-gold-queen-mother
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An excellent receipt as it were. Meghan warmly smiled and greeted both Kate and Sophie who deliberately snubbed her for the world to see. So now we’re supposed to believe Meghan was the one snubbing them at another time. All I can say is GTFO.
Of course Kate and Sophie were rebuffed! I would rebuff someone one only shows concern when it will make them look good. By that point everyone had seen the abusive articles written about her and for 3 long years they did nothing so their last minute concern feels less than genuine.
But also, it’s extremely normal for someone in the midst of a deep depression to rebuff other people and not want to socialize. I’m sure any “overtures” to Meghan were like “get all dressed up, do your hair and makeup, leave your newborn home, and come for a really strained and formal tea service at our house where we’ll all secretly compete with each other in our own heads for the title of who looks the best today and whose clothes are the most expensive and well tailored, and then we’ll sit around very uncomfortably talking about nothing for 45 minutes, before we curtly say goodbye to each other and go out separate ways.” I HIGHLY doubt Kate was actually calling Meghan on the phone for a heart to heart chat, or showing up at her house in sweat pants with chocolates and trashy romcoms just so that Meghan wouldn’t have to be alone.
Meghan didn’t rebuff anyone. They never reached out to her.
Meghan behaved like a composed, gracious adult at the CW service, the only rebuffing was done very visibly and deliberately by William, Kate and Sophie. She had a smile on her face the whole time and managed to keep Harry from blowing his stack. She came out of the mess with her head held high and was clearly the better person. And remember she explained to Oprah that Kate apologized for making her cry, sent her flowers and a note, and she understood why Kate did it because she was “going through something”…”she’s a good person”.
Meghan would have been open to people ‘reaching out to her’ if their intentions were genuine and good. The KP smear campaign really ramped up in Nov. 2018, Jan. 2019 is when she said she had suicidal thoughts, Feb.2019 is when the DM/MoS put out stories about anti-Meghan trolls (which reads like an advertisement) and KP staff working furiously to delete hateful comments (which isn’t true), publishing contents of M’s letter to Bad Dad and the baby shower stories. March 2019 is when Jason Knauf was no longer working for the Sussexes and H & M moved into Frogmore Cottage. Word started coming out they were moving their offices to BP. June 2019 it was announced they were splitting from W & K and the Royal Foundation.
I don’t believe Kate or Sophie were reaching out to Meghan in any way, shape or form in 2019.
I’m willing to bet too, that Kate and Sophie’s overtures were more along the lines of trying to help Meghan decide which charitable endeavours she should take on, and how she should go about being a member of the royal family. And Meghan probably went, “Nah, I got this,” and outshined both of them.
Either that, or Kate and Sophie’s overtures were just them trying to explain to Meghan why she would always be treated as “less than” within the royal family, and why she should just accept it and get used to it and not say or do anything.
She really has done fuck all since she got married, except have three children. She has contributed nothing of relevance in her 10+ years as a Royal and 39+ years as a person.
I’ll bet my house every single poster in this story has accomplished more than Kate, and with less resources, opportunities and privilege.
No one of note, relevance and importance needs a full staff to fluff them up. It comes organically and naturally, unlike Kate and her need to rely on bought media to give her the time of day.
I woke up cranky today as BF tested positive on the 1st so I am fed up of inconsequential people trying to be so grandiose with nothing to show for it.
I hope BF doesn’t get too ill, and that you avoid getting it too.
I just tested positive for COVID this morning. The only time I’ve left my house in the last month was to get my COVID booster shot. So that’s annoying lol
.Omg Melly, I’m so sorry! Stay warm. I hope you have someone nearby to help you.
Becky English writes about the Royals as if it’s the 1800s. That the only sources of Royal news are the RR. It’s as if she believes that the public can’t see and hear for themselves the truth about Kate. This is why the world laughs at the Brits and their Royal Family…. a story of fiction
I had so much thoughts about this article but all I will say is that it reminds me of William’s tribute to his grandfather which was really all about Harry or sticking it to Harry.
This should have been all about Kate. The most she should have said about Meghan if she were being “dignified” is that she is so sorry about the way things worked out.
Instead she uses an article about HER 40th birthday and years in the BRF to rebuff events about Meghan that she has rebuffed many times before. All the while she was denying that she is able to rebuff what Meghan said in the interview.
Meghan has not mentioned these people since that interview, except to refer to them as “my husband’s family”.
Yes. This whole thing looks suspiciously like Kate is “protesting too much”. By going on and on about how welcoming she was toward Meghan, it puts a glaring spotlight on how little she did to be welcoming given that we’ve known Meghan’s side of the story since the Oprah interview. It’s very strange that this, a well as her excuses for not working, are all that’s being focused on on the occasion of her 40th birthday, like she’s accomplished nothing else of worth? I’d be massively embarrassed if these were my biggest accomplishments at 40. Cringeworthy.
‘steel marshmallow’ has spoken again to deny stories she planted years ago and is still hung up on.
‘steel marshmallow’ cries a lot, but much steel! Very ready to be queen but not ready to work.
Rebecca Deacon/Priestly is no longer Kate’s Private Secretary. She left in 2017 or 2018. It’s Hannah Cockburn-Logie who took up the post in 2020 after Catherine Quinn left at the end of 2019. Becky English for some reason chose to omit that piece of information. But it would seem Ms. Deacon has been designated as the media rep for Kate as it’s not the first time that she’s spoken on the record.
Thank you, Amy Bee! I thought I was tripping because I read the name and was like, “Didn’t Rebecca quit?”
Yes let’s not talk about Catherine Quinn getting the hell out as soon as her two years were up. I bet she has stories to tell.
Left to accomplish something in the charity world, because she couldn’t do that working with Kate.
Quinn was never W&K’s choice. Charles hired her to try to get work out of Kate. Six weeks after the public announcement of Quinn’s hire, Kate was six weeks pregnant. Yes, she uses pregnancy as a get out of work card.
Catherine Quinn is no nonsense kind of person. She probably couldn’t stand Kate for her pettiness and stupidity. She left Kate’s employ for good and for the good of her own mental health.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it turns out Rebecca is the one who briefs on behalf of Kate and even the Midds to keep their hands “clean”. As in, if it ever backfires on Kate, they can just put the blame on Rebecca and say she’s an ex-employee gone rogue.
And that’s interesting, right, because that would mean that Kate didn’t have kids at the time, or only had George. She had George when they still lived in Wales and then some time after that they made the move to Norfolk (even though they were supposed to be moving to KP, I think they got 1A when she was pregnant with George, right? And then it was announced they would be moving to Norfolk? I’m getting my timeline confused.)
BUT, the key thing is that she didn’t have George until 2013 and she got married in 2011, so if Rebecca Deacon was sitting with her in Wales talking about what kind of work she wanted to do – there were no kids at the time to excuse her lack of work. and if Deacon left in 2017, then Kate still wasn’t working full time (lol, like she has ever) because she had George, had her maternity leave, came back for a little while, including the Australia tour in spring 2014, and then got pregnant with Charlotte and peaced out again for another year.
Was not there some story that QEII agreed to give Baldy and Wiglet two years work-free to settle into their marriage? Then, when the two years were up, Kate got pregnant with George???
If I got the above gossip wrong, I will put down the crack pipe but I seem to distinctly remember reading a story along these line when was newly pregnant with George and suffering severe morning sickness.
@Bay – nah. That was the RR spin, but its never been confirmed and it doesnt fit the timeline anyway, as Kate was pregnant with George by late 2012 (so about 18 months into the marriage.) The thinking was that kate was always going to be a FT member of the royal family, and then when they peaced out to Wales for those years the RRs spun the “Malta lie” about the queen wanting william and Kate to have a few years to adjust (which was always stupid when you think about it, because that was also the RR lie about why William waited so long to propose, so that Kate could get a taste of royal life, etc.)
and that doesn’t fit with the timeline here from Rebecca Deacon in the article – why would she have been sitting with Kate in Wales discussing charity work if she wasn’t expected to start working for 2 years?
Rebecca Priestly is listed as a staff member for the Forward Trust now. I’m aghast that she could choke out the words that people are talking about mental health and addiction because of Kate’s interventions. Fan fic. I have yet to see where Kate has credibility (or knowledge of a subject without looking at notes-listening and learning went throught one ear and out the other) or strength in character-at least good character.
The DM putting out a story involving someone they have an “invisible contract” with and using credibility and strength of character is incredulous.
Meghan did a 40×40 for her 40th birthday…..this mediocre woman’s birthday is about telling others whatever whatever whatever about Meghan and Diana! in a way, you have to pity W to have married such an airhead!
I thought 40 + 40 had sunk because folks didn’t take it up. Glad to be proved wrong.
A lot of people took it up, celebs and everyday people. Did you expect an update from everyone involved? Eugenie signed on but she didn’t tell what she did. Perhaps some of the people mentored wanted privacy?
How convenient.
What? It was taken up all over the place. Celebs and prominent people from the UK and the US were posting about it. What more did you want?
No Jodie. You’ve confused Meghan’s 40×40 initiative with Kate’s flop piano recital and Keen Zoolander Center For Kids Who Can’t Read Good.
Try to keep up, Dearest.
This was actually the beauty of the initiative…that it wasn’t a big thing that required follow up. That’s what the royal family always gets wrong and what Meghan is so good at. She sees the importance of keeping the scope small so you can accomplish things. 40×40 was asking people to spend 40 minutes mentoring someone…no follow up required, just putting some kindness into the universe. And based on Twitter a lot of ordinary people did just that…helped local people for 40 minutes and made a small or big difference where they were. It wasn’t about the celebrities doing it, they helped spread the word, but it was really about every person who spent the time to be kind to someone else. It was brilliant.
Even though you’re not getting the play-by-play update that you seem to think you’re entitled to, Meghan still did a hell of a lot more than Kate to mark her milestone birthday — all Kate is doing is mean girling her way into her next decade, as per usual. So you can stop right there with the nonsense. Nobody is playing today.
It’s still going strong on LinkedIn among business people.
I bet you are also one of the people who goes on about H&M not doing their charity privately like people should. You are looking for a complaint. Why don’t you contact some of the people who signed on like Melissa McCarthy, Princess Eugenie, Sophie Trudeau, Katie Couric, Hillary Clinton, Sheryl Sandberg, Ciara, Daniel Martin, Misha Nonoo, Priyanka Chopra, Dr. Ibram X Kendi, Stacey Abrams, Edward Enninful, Sofia Carson, Sarah Paulson, Amanda Nguyen, Gabrielle Union, Tessy Ojo, Adele, Dr. Nadine Burke Harris, Sofia Carson, Deepak Chopra, Tracee Ellis Ross, Stella McCartney, Gloria Steinem, Jose Andres, Amanda Gorman… I’m sure they would all love to give you an update. Or are you saying they are all liars? Perhaps the initiative was simply to help people, not to notify others?
Meghan’s 40X40 was very successful. I guess you didn’t see the hundreds of people on Linkedin helping people with their resumes and cover letters. That’s not including Journalists, Lawyers, Hillary Clinton, and others reaching out on Twitter and some recipients discussing getting a job or a job offer because of it. Nice try, Jodie.
@jodie — you thought 40X40 had sunk? oh royalists …. I would love to understand how one become a royalist; how one sets expectations so low for certain individuals and are more than happy to pay for the circus!
No one is buying what you’re trying to sell Jodie.
That’s not even true but what a sad attempt to deflect from the fact that Kate has never bothered to even try to make her birthday about anyone but herself.
Kate is a sour, bitter and useless woman who is aging out of beauty and has no character to substantiate her former beauty.
Good lord the Kate stans are out in full force today.
So many people and businesses participated in 40 × 40, even Stacey Abrams
They’re trying to spin Kate’s ‘low key 40th’ as her avoiding being compared to M and engaging in one-upping when the truth is Kate doesn’t have the range, connections or work ethic to pull off what M did with 40X40. If I reach 40 and my greatest achievement is popping out three kids for a husband that can barely stand to look at me then I would know I’ve failed at life.
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How many thumbs up can I give this comment? How about 40!!!!!
We often get these tidbits about how Kate is very unbothered about everything and just keeps on, but this being about the 20th version of the infamous cry story since Meghan cleared things up on Oprah…the one big insight we can glean is that Meghan speaking up about what went down must’ve really rattled her and her advisors. It’s so bizarre since the incident appears to be a nothingburger, but it’s fascinating that they can’t let it go. Perhaps because in all her propaganda, it the one dark mark they can’t clean up. Kinda hard to paint yourself as the victim if you provided a note of apology.
Yeah, we keep hearing that she is a steel marshmallow and doesn’t let things bother her, but let’s not forget who threw a total fit over the Tatler article last year.
It’s the same as the never complain never explain bullshit. All they do is complain and then to gild the lily they flat out Continuously lie.
Does the world still see these people as a cut above? The tampon prince, the consorting with paedophile princes, the work shy do nothings? Their ability to get on in the real world would be zilch.
Trash with tiaras.
My big question is if they really see themselves as a cut above? Do they really buy into that BS or do they know they are running a scam?
I don’t think the incident was a nothingburger. I think whatever Kate said was bad enough that she realized she had to clean it up and present Meghan with flowers and a handwritten note right quick. Mrs. Cambridge was in fear that whatever she said during that fitting would end up being exposed and damage her public image big time.
Exactly, and despite Kate going on the attack, Meghan took the high road by stating the truth to Oprah, then said Kate was “going through something” and “she’s a good person”. She would never stoop to Kate’s level of back-stabbing and churlishness.
Are we not gonna talk about the wording here of the endlessly revisited tights-or-no-tights dustup?
“ Meghan’s behavior TOWARDS CHARLOTTE…”
So now Meghan was an implied monster towards a child!?! Way to ratchet up the crazy, DM!
As somebody on twitter said, if Meghan was bullying to Charlotte, Kate would not have sent a note and flowers to apologise. It’s clear that Kate was bullying Meghan about the bridesmaid dresses.
Exactly.
They expect us to believe that if Meghan had been a monster toward Charlotte that THAT would not have been the headline they were shouting from the rooftops!?! Please. The tabloids would have eaten that shiz up. Ain’t no weaponized white tears like child-sized ones.
It’s a subtle distinction they’re throwing in there now with that allusion but it’s a super insidious one.
No as I said before, she was bullying meghan for marrying harry. It was not about silly willy cheating. He never stopped cheating. She married him knowing he was/is a cheater. There was nothing new about that. Kate was able to run off all of harrys’ girlfriends, it was probably why he kept them so secret.
A blind man can see how kate was playing up to harry, she was always happy around him. Note her dead eyes since he left, and how she runs to him even during a funeral. Meghan married him, she will always dislike her. Full stop. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. As coplay kate has shown, still trying to appeal to harry, right silly willy, talk about sheknows, he knows would be more correct, what would make silly willy so bitter at his brother?. Oh besides the usual things, but losing your wife to your brother, I forgivable.
I remember on some boards, some pointed out how super “flirty” Kate was with Harry. I think Kate wanted to be the center of attention and would not tolerate Meghan. I read that Kate told Chelsy to expect Harry to cheat. Something off base about Kate.
Meghan being ‘mean to charlotte’ is just another re-write attempt, like tights, then bridesmaid dresses, then leather shoes etc. When is kate gonna give it up, she’s been outed as the mean b*tch she really is. It’s not even the who made who cry that’s the problem, it’s the fact kate tried to weaponise her white tears against a pregnant woman which could have lead to fatal consequences towards Meghan and her unborn baby. Also all the stress this story cause Meghan, it’s amazing she was able to deliver a healthy baby during all of it. Kate would have felt nothing, if her lies caused Meghan to lose her baby.
The fact kate is still trying to tell this lie is what make the whole thing so beyond disgusting. She’s literally the worst.
But it’s H&M that cause security issues for the RF? So is Charlotte allowed to behave like a brat and try people’s patience or was the “behavior” simply to tell her she didn’t have to wear tights? I hope H&M put Schillings onto this article.
For all we know, Kate was throwing her weight around at the fitting telling Meghan what the flower girls NEEDED to wear, and Meghan maybe said something like “I really don’t think they need to” for whatever reason, and then Kate flew off the handle because 1) how dare the newcomer undermine her authority and 2) how dare she dictate what HER child should do. Kate is a woman who arrogantly and stupidly thought she could overthrow Norfolk aristocracy’s queen bee. She absolutely felt she had the right to tell Meghan what she should do for HER wedding, and I wish she’d shut the hell up already about it.
THe trouble is Kate and William should have been reined in. William should have been told by his grandmother to mind his own business about who Harry is dating. And Kate should have been put in her place quickly telling her to back off giving Meghan advice.
@Swirlmaid: That’s pretty much what I’ve guessed too. That Charlotte, being 3, didn’t want to wear tights (or whatever) and Meghan, trying to be a nice Auntie-to-be said something like “that’s OK sweetie, you don’t have to wear them,” and Kate, being Kate, said “what? No. Royal bridesmaids must wear tights!” And Megan shrugged and said “Not at my wedding they don’t,” and Kate lost it and said something mean like “then obviously you don’t belong in this family.” Maybe tacking on a “just like everyone’s been saying” for good measure.
And then Meghan cried (as would I.) And then maybe Kate cried too, not out of sympathy but out of hurt and anger, having just found out about #PrinceWilliamAffair. And then later Kate realized she’d let her guard down and apologized to save face.
I don’t have any secret tea, but the above is something I can imagine going down that more-or-less can be spun in every way they’ve tried to spin it.
Maybe Kate snapped at Charlotte, Meghan defended Charlotte and Kate then made Meghan cry? What I know about the British press is that the opposite of what they report is true. If they are saying Meghan was mean to Charlotte then it was probably Kate.
I mean most people, I think, would prefer not to wear tights, especially on a hot day. So charlotte was prob like yay I don’t have to wear tights.
You could have something there. There are pictures of Kate making George cry at Pippa’s wedding.
This could be it.. charlotte threw tantrum and cried in Germany too kids being kids don’t care about royal appearances so charlotte threw tantrum and Meghan was okay no tights then it’s too hot anyways& kate didn’t let it go the woman is obsessed bout image
I will also say I support Meghan and Harry and with all these embiggening pieces for Kate, my admiration for Meghan is sky high.
Meghan said her piece on March 2021. One interview. She was gracious to Kate. She corrected the crying lie and since then (9-10 months ago) she has not mentioned this woman or anyone else in the royal family.
Meghan’s friends do not badmouth Kate. Compare with Kate whose uncle, mother, press friends and employees all insult Meghan.
Meghan is dignified. Kate is not. Kate is on about the tenth explanation for the crying lie she allowed to be published. She had years to correct this lie, she did not.
Kate damaged her own image by allowing this lie to continue. Her mean girl behavior is now clear to see plus she is a coward. Sending people to do her bidding and attack Meghan while she pretends to be seperate from it all.
A woman who has been in the royal family for over 10 years and is not only incredibly lazy but also has nothing to show for her time there. She gets by clinging to other people. Compared to the queen, compared to Diana and now compared to Meghan by dressing like them or copying their mannerisms . She cannot stand on her own identity. She needs to belittle others so as to look better.
Everything we see from Kate indicates she is mean, racist, manipulative, petty, lazy, and painfully incurious. She is a woman who has had every opportunity but no interest in doing anything with them. It boggles the mind!
I really don’t get how this is KP’s PR strategy before her birthday?
This has been their PR strategy for a few years now. Complain endlessly about how Meghan and Harry leaving means that Kate has to endure the prospect of doing more work. Talk about how Kate never puts a foot wrong. How she is such a hands-on mum. How her and William are so close and care so much about the kids. Throw in a few mentions of how she’s a steel marshmallow like the Queen Mum, doesn’t care for publicity or attention, how Meghan made Kate cry, how her middle class, Middleton values are what set her apart from everyone else, and you largely have a PR article about her.
Agreed. The Oprah interview was the most watched program last year and the world knows Kate made Meghan cry and benefited from it for over 2 years. Kate’s 17 different versions of why she made her cry haven’t been picked up. The world knows it’s bs. They believe Meghan.
Kate stans keep over using the word “classy” applied to Kate. No way is Kate “classy” IMO.
She’s literally shown her ass too much to ever be considered classy. But also figuratively too. Kate has been lazy and trashy, along with her family, from day one and the racists seethe about this because they know Meghan’s life was not one of chasing rich men on yachts or changing universities to be with them or being available by phone whenever the man wanted a booty call.
She’s flashed her behind on official “work” – you can hardly be less classy when this has happened on more than one occasion.
The flashing at the War Memorial in India is one that I will never forget. SMH. At that point Mrs. Cambridge had to have known that those floaty, unweighted skirts she was favoring back then were a risk, since she had already had multiple prior incidents of them flying up in the air. But no, she wore one again, didn’t bother to get the hem weighted, and ended up giving everyone another show.
To some people, “classy” means white, thin, rich, and snobby. And/or, they admire Kate’s refusal to acknowledge anything (being lazy, racist, throwing sister-in-law under bus, being a doormat for cheating husband, etc.). To them, that’s “classy.”
Excuse my ignorance of Kate’s flashing episodes, but was she not wearing those coatdresses back then?
Debbie: nope.
The more she keeps talking (or making others) the more she looks lazy, petty and jealous. She wanted to outshine everyone without lifting a single finger and is bitter Meghan got all the attention – and a happy family too – without having to flash her behind, belittle someone else in the press or just being a dumb empty doll who made her look better.
Keep in mind, we saw that her hemlines got LONGER after Meghan joined the picture. She’s just such a desperate person who can’t help but copy her sister-in-law and be a mean girl bully at the same time.
I thought the most eye-opening thing about this unhinged piece was the fact that Meghan remains in Kate’s head.
Even after leaving formal royal duties, Meghan out-shines, out-works, and out-classes Kate. And, Meghan is more popular with the public and her husband than Kate. Kate will ALWAYS resent Meghan, for the rest of her life.
@Amy Bee – and she is living their rent free! LOL! LOL!
She anticipates being Princess of Wales before her “next big birthday”? Way to look forward to TQ’s death. If she really doesn’t want to be “the new Di”, she would not use the title like Cam. Funnier still if Charles wants to either hold onto the title for himself (like supposedly with Duke of Edinburgh) or just doesn’t bestow it on W. I hope the Welsh protest against it like they did with PC.
That is certainly the most bizarre part of this! Why would that even come up?!
Considering her next “big” birthday is 65, TWENTY-FIVE YEARS OFF, yeah…it’s a safe bet. “What a marrooon!”(w/thanks to Bugs Bunny for that lol)
We all know in 25 yrs., Buttons McMutton will *still* not have *anything* of worth/note to her name. Just a bigger closet for all of her sister-wife dresses and coats.
I was assuming 50, and it seems “reasonable” to expect that the queen will not be alive when Kate turns 50. But I wouldn’t bet that she would be the princess of wales by that point either.
I think that is why Charles probably pushed for Camilla getting the honors. So the “next Queen” Kate spin will stop.
The title isn’t dormant either. Camilla is Princess of Wales because she is married to the Prince of Wales. She is simply not using it in public because of the Diana mess. And that article at the end tried to make it sound like kate would be actual queen instead of consort. They need to stop with this. Kate will never be the monarch. She is the future future Philip.
It was not Diana who caused the “mess.” I’ll leave it at that. Kate is also called the next Queen by her ardent fans, which is totally inaccurate. There is no next Queen (monarch) on the horizon until or if George’s first child is a girl.
Thank you @Nic919. The title isn’t dormant-it’s just not being used. She will not be the next Queen, but like you said Queen Consort.
The Queen admires Kate so much it took 8 years for her to do an almost solo (Philip was there) day trip engagement. Whilst, after marrying in, Meghan had an overnight solo engagement with the Queen. In under a month.
That stood out to me too! What a thing to say. Also when Charles is king he can wait as long as he likes to give POW to Billy.
I hope Charles makes them wait.
I read the original article online over the weekend and had to reread the first paragraph several times as it sounded like Kate would most likely be the POW before her next birthday. Very confusing and probably written that way in order to out some insider info about the Queen’s health without coming right out and saying it.
every year around her birthday the royal family work with the press to get one of these saccharine sweet on Kate mixed with snide cruelty to Meghan articles out.
They talk about how Catty is keen to listen and learn as compared to Meghan’s let’s help others approach. Their desire to be lazy is fully on display here and this article does not help to dispel that. They are also letting us know that Catty and Sophiesta are willing partners in crime in their underhanded attempt to convince Meghan to keep taking the abuse.
And no Rebecca, Meghan said what she said about the incident where Catty made her cry and subsequently sent her flowers and apologized, and she will no longer respond to the million versions printed. Recollections do not vary, because Meghan has receipts. You want these receipts. but she will never show you these receipts you old trolling battle-axe.
I’m going to refer to her as “Catty” from now on. Perfect.
swirl, there are so many names for them that, I enjoy using the variations.
When you are so boring and unaccomplished that the article about your 40th birthday has to be another hit piece on the SIL you drove away…
I wonder if she feels any embarassment at all. Even just a smidge.
Pathetic, isn’t it?
This. 💯💯
First of all, Kate doesn’t have friends. She is known to be jealous and mean to other women and dropped her few friends for William’s friends ( and they don’t even like her)
I’m so sick of this crying story. It clearly upset Kate that she was outed as a bitch and has been scrambling since . She even “played” the piano to try and soften her image. That fact that KP keep releasing different versions of this story to try and make it look like Kate had a good reason to make Meghan cry is pathetic. Meghan has only released one version and hasn’t swayed from it and that proves she is telling the truth.
The fact that Kate has to constantly put Meghan down to make herself appear better proves how insecure she is and her insane jealousy toward Meghan.
Kate is a pretty sad 40 year old.
Kate tried to make HERSELF the victim. The “playing” piano made her look worse, she was grinning inanely after her “accomplishment” .
I hope that every time a new version of this crying story comes out, KKKate spends an entire night alone in bed crying.
This family seems so cold and formal. Writing letters of support to family members who live nearby instead of picking up the phone or arranging a visit.
I haven’t been able to wrap my head around this one either.
Philip was very supportive of Diana back in the 80’s and wrote her letters. So RE is taking that detail and applying it to Kate even though it is very likely untrue – when do those rota rats ever tell the truth? Now whether RE did this of her own accord or at the request of Pimp Mama Carole is another question. The entire piece stinks of Middleton propaganda.
I agree that detail about the letters seems fishy. Why would Philip bother with kate, she is not his problem.
Nothing in this fluff piece is painting her in a good light. Nothing. She is work shy, she has done nothing of worth in 10 years of marriage, she has zero personality and there have been several pieces already stating that she was quite cold to Meghan because she didn’t know her intentions. Yeah, recollections may vary.
LOL, I mean everything about this article is laughable, but its expected at this point, right? They have to remind us that Kate is super-Mom, because that’s the only excuse for her total lack of work. She gets her hair done during the day so she’s with the kids during dinner? She does one evening a month, if that. I’m sure if she had to miss that dinner the kids would be okay.) She had to rush from nursery drop off to London? When, pray tell? When George was in nursery they lived in Norfolk and Kate still refused to be “full time”, when he started at St. Thomas’s in London Kate was pregnant with Louis and still refused to be full time (and by that point they were living in London at least during the week, Charlotte went to nursery in London). And to the extent that she ever did have to miss nursery drop off to make it to London, that was on her and William bc they refused to live in London FT until 2017.
(unless we’re supposed to figure that’s why they “had” to use helicopters, because of the children. Won’t someone think of the children!?!!?)
also I love the references to how long she’s been waiting to be queen. Yes, because that’s how it works? Is she mad that the Queen has lived so long?
Actually, Kate skips dinner with the kids to do her hair: “If there’s an evening event, Catherine tends to get her hair ready between meetings during the day so she can finish up while the children are eating dinner, which allows her the time to put them to bed.” That’s the one thing that stuck out to me as indicative of how out of touch Kate really is. What real middle-class mom with three little ones gets to pencil in her alone time during dinner? Kate must be so triggered when she needs to go out at night, which she has rarely had to do with the pandemic. She did Earthshot and the Bond premiere this fall, but this information takes up a lot of column inches in her birthday memorial life tribute as if she’s out twice a week every week. Does she really expect people to find this relatable or sacrificial?
Ha, you’re right! She finishes up getting her hair done so she can put them to bed. That sounds completely relatable lol.
Honestly it actually sounds very old school royal/aristocrat. I’m thinking of all the movies you see where the rich wife comes in to say goodnight to the kids in the nursery in her evening gown and jewels while the nanny puts away the toys or whatever. This gives the vibe that Kate is doing the same thing.
Let’s not forget they told us Bitter Brother did drop offs and met up with the Yummy Mummies at the gym after.
Hard to believe she is turning 40. Her behaviour is that of a racist, mean girl. Has accomplished nothing apart from having three children. Just a horrible woman.
She is.
Happy New year! I reckon like me you are thinking of all the things you would like to achieve in the new year. I remember in H& M engagement interview, they talked in broad terms about the things they would like to achieve with a wider platform, This is what I expect from Kate a plan for her future and things she is excited about and would like to achieve instead we get a nothing article about her in comparison to XY&Z . What a wasted opportunity, and platform, she she hopes by the time she is 50 she hopes to be princess of wales but that in itself is not an achievement. It’s really sad.
Exactly! I’m just thinking: This is the content we are getting in the new year from the Cambridges? They are absolutely lost. This is a spiraling descent into crazy, but they’re already so high up that the fall to the bottom will still be relatively comfortable.
I’m once again convinced that all is wrong in Cambridge land. These PR moves are getting more obvious and the stories more Trumpian in their deliberate attempts to rewrite history and convince us we aren’t seeing what we know we’re seeing.
I think this really may be the year the Cambridges split. This is progressively worsening at a rapid pace.
I agree. I don’t know about splitting up, but there’s been something deeply wrong for a year now. It seems to be getting worse with the way they keep trying to shove each other under the bus. Remember a few months ago in a Times piece, it was emphasized that Kate never liked or welcomed Meghan and William was more willing to give her a chance. Now we get this latest PR defense claiming Kate was super welcoming while pushing more of the blame on William.
Maybe William had his reservations at first but he was always slightly warmer towards Meghan. And I emphasize slightly.
If they end up moving to Windsor/Berkshire, that might be a sign. The PR spin will be, ‘didn’t want to send their son to boarding school’ so they relocated. Or the Queen needs them close. All to disguise moving Kate closer to mummy ahead of a separation.
@Nota, yup , that’s what I think is going to happen. They’re going to use George and Eton as an excuse for buying another home in Windsor/Berkshire (or being given a wing in Windsor or whatever) but I think the real reason will be a Cambridge separation (even if it never becomes official). We’ll hear that William has to stay at KP bc of his busy, London-based work schedule, and Kate is the super involved mom who is there for her son as he prepares to be king in 50 years.
@Becks1 – I theorized a year or so ago that, with Kate finished having pregnancy as an excuse not to work, she’ll pivot to how she’s now focusing on preparing George for his future responsibilities. It’s an excuse that can provide cover for multiple scenarios, while at the same time making her seem more important than Meghan!
The story makes William look like a controlling rageaholic, which he’s not going to like. That’s also not how a loving couple describes each other in a birthday puff piece. She’s trying to get some digs in there for a reason.
Nic- if she’s smart, she’s doing that to prepare for smearing him in the press if there’s a divorce.
A few repetitive chords, one repetitive story
1) imagine being in a job and getting away with just ‘listening & learning’ & barely being able to show the results of what you have ‘learnt’ for a decade. Again I can see why the royal family desperately need the royal rota if it helps them get away with this complete mediocrity.
2) Rebecca claims that Kate is credible on the issues she’s leaned into- I must have missed that-see the 5 min roundtable with Dr Biden.
3) if Kate came up with Heads Together why was she the person in that trio who did the least with it? What is she doing for heads together now? I definitely do give Harry, Kate & William props for opening up mainstream conversations on mental health in Britain though.
4) Meghan lives rent free in Kate/KP’s head as well as the rota. Why is a piece on Kate’s upcoming 40th (like most of the fluff pieces on Kate) even mentioning Meghan? Can the media not get interest in Kate without dropping Meghan in it?
5) Kate has been working over time since the Oprah interview & whilst Meghan tried to give her an out that she possibly couldn’t correct the tears story due to the palace machinery, all these articles since with spins on how Meghan is actually the big angry black woman who made her cry shows her camp put out that story in the first place. Shows she isn’t a hapless victim but a willing participant in the smear campaign, using racist tropes. I think suggesting Meghan was horrible to Charlotte is beyond appalling. It also really doesn’t add up that KATE would apologise & send flowers (which has been widely accepted even by the rota) to Meghan if Meghan had been awful to Charlotte.
6) Kate & Meghan may not have much in common (except being married to brothers & being victim to press misogyny & classism) but not hard to be nice & try find common ground with a new co worker etc. However, by all accounts (I even saw Tom Bradby article in 2017 when Harry & Meghan got engaged talking about Kate & William being cautious) Kate was wary/ cold from the start. Did she even try with Meghan?
7) what did Sophie & Kate actually do to ‘reach out’? Hard to believe after their cold behaviour at the commonwealth day service. And if they weren’t reaching out to Meghan until October 2019 which was like a year after the smear campaign started, puts paid to Sophie’s claim this year that they try to help new family members settle in. As lots of stories were coming from the palace at that point, in Meghan’s shoes I probably wouldn’t trust them especially if they hadn’t shown concern earlier. Also who knows maybe their reaching out at that point was more about dissuading against the lawsuits than actually trying to comfort Meghan.
I think they have each said they reached out with ‘we’ve all been through bad press just wait it out’. Edward said the same recently. They haven’t been through what Meghan went through and her torment was organized by KP.
Point number 5 is yet another piece of evidence to add to the huge list of proof that Kate is an irredeemable piece of shit. Of course that won’t stop a handful of people here from continuing to make excuses for her.
The fact that she’s now using Charlotte as a reason for this lie (and I’ll note the derangers have used this as a talking point themselves, ahem) tells me that she/Carole/her team are *desperate*. Nothing else they’ve put out since Meghan revealed the truth has stuck. They’ve put out multiple stories that Kate must’ve cried without Meghan being aware and they even brought out people to speak on her behalf (people who weren’t even there). This tells me that no matter how much the media and paid bots prop her up, her image has taken a permanent and severe hit. She and Carole are panicking.
Kate didn’t come up with Head’s Together, other than rallying around the idea of stealing Harry’s work. Harry had been working with veteran mental health for years – and getting good PR for it. W&K tried to grab on his coattails and take credit for his work, hence the umbrella Head’s Together.
Someone who has worked on Heads Together posted that only Harry’s involvement was real and that the other two did it for show. Besides this is a change from the original version of the story which was that kate came up with the name for Heads Together, not the actual charity. Harry had been working on something similar already and they wanted to group some charities together so the Billy and Cathy foundation could take credit for it.
We can all remember the story of when Meghan was living with Harry at Not Cot, and how Kate refused to give her a lift to the High Street where they were both going to shop.
The “snubbing” was going since the *very* beginning.
Maybe Kkkkate and bulli will go back to what royals used to be before queen vic? Some might have ‘worked’ but weren’t they all just mostly lazy layabouts who had people run things? Prince Albert was a working royal because he created himself work to do, he actually never needed to do anything. he could have played all he liked. the working royal thing seems to me a modern notion since media happened and the ‘news’ such as it was, was taken out of their hands. Bulli wants to be a benevolent dictator (tho without the hands on power) and she want’s to princess, look pretty and be the countries mother. at the end of the day her only job was to birth the kids and she did that. I guess the rest is up to her.
The working Royal “thing” really started with Princess Mary of Teck (aka Fat Mary who was a first cousin of Queen Victoria) and was carried on by her delighter Queen Mary which set the template for today’s true working Royals.
She found it “hard” to be a working mother? Really Kate? She does not live in the real world. REAL working mothers have actual careers, not nearly as much downtime as Kate, and she has to support a family sometimes as a single mother. Kate has people to clean the mansions and mind the children. She also has lots and lots of downtime and the “hard work” includes pounding on piano chords to accompany singer.
It’s also weird it talks about Kate wanting normalcy for the kids, but fearing that her working would interfere with that? Like, that is normal!!
Kate has never had a real job. She has no frame of reference of what it actually takes to maintain a full-time job. I’m sure that she feels that she’s having a hard and stressful time – but only because she has never actually worked in any significant way. Even the little she does must feel like much when compared to doing nothing at all. I’m not excusing her but I think that she has lived in her own lazy bubble for so long before marriage that the very light schedule the royals have felt like a lot to her.
She really has no idea how ridiculous she looks with all these claims about how hard it is for her to do one or two short events every other week.
Absolutely, ArtHistorian. After the 2012 Jubilee year when W&K had just married? Kate complained to the Rota about working 100 engagements that year, such a whirlwind, she hoped the coming year (2013) would be much quieter.
I agree. The sad thing is that Kate does think she works a lot when she has to do more than one event in a week. She has no frame of reference for what people who work for a living actually do. And that’s surprising to me bc for all the criticism about Carole and Mike Middleton, I feel like you can’t deny that they worked. No, PP was probably never the multi-million business that they claim, but there was some hustle there at some point.
It’s like what Omid said about the KP staffers – when you never had more than one meeting a month, having a meeting every day or every week (with Meghan) seems like a lot. With Kate, when you never had to work and have never been expected to put in 40 hours a week, having to do more than one event a week seems like a lot.
That said, she’s been a working royal for 11 years now and you would think she would have figured out the gig by now.
Well, Charles and Diana both worked quite a lot, yet Will doesn’t like to. Parents don’t always manage to pass on their best traits to their children.
I thought one of the reasons the royals married within their class was to keep a commoner from marrying the future king and using him for his money and social status. I can’t be the only one to think that Kate managed to squeeze in there and do just that. By painting William as a broken vulnerable teen in need of a “real family” CarolE et al. managed to swoop in there, take the prize, then sit back and laugh. And, they have the gall to wax sacrificial about the personal cost to Kate at the same time.
Her spin is that she is relatable. In this day and age a woman who is “relatable” does not complain that it is too hard to do any work and raise children. It’s all the more absurd with all the help Kate has, for her to whinge about “her lot.”
It’s all absolute bullsh!t. If Kate felt this strongly about wanting to be home with her children when they’re not in school, she could have put her foot down and refused to do any more evening engagements except the ones where her attendance is basically required, like state dinners. However, in return, she would adopt an Anne-type schedule on weekdays when the kids were at school, cramming in a few engagements a day, a few days a week— but home with them for dinner, homework, baths, bedtime, etc.
But she doesn’t want to! Lmao the reason we’re even talking about Kate in the first place right now is because that is the exact life she wanted and hung on for; she loves the “glamour” part of her position. She only WANTS to step out of her country mum role to go to the movie premieres and the concerts and the galas. She loves getting dressed up, meeting celebrities, and shaking the peasants hands, being made to feel important. Those are literally the only events she seemingly attends happily, without needing to be bribed, and without needing to worry about being caught on camera rolling her eyes with boredom the way she does at more run-of-the-mill daytime engagements.
This really read as a straightforward hit piece to me. My initial reaction when I read it over the weekend was, “wow, Rebecca English is *pissed.*” It might not be quite as bad, in Kate’s eyes, as the Tatler piece— for all of the reasons you all already explained in other comments— but this entire article is shade. At Kate, at William, at her family— it’s positively dripping with sarcasm and condescension and I would die of mortification if this was written about me turning 40 (or ever). This will also have far more reach than Pasternak’s article did, because Tatler is so niche with a much more limited audience. I cannot believe they brought up the crying incident again, and I REALLY cannot believe that they opened by making it clear that Kate is eagerly waiting for the Queen to die.
Not a single thing in this article makes Kate look good, imo, not one single thing. It paints her as out-of-touch, spoiled, juvenile, subservient, moronic, manipulative, selfish…I could go on all day. It was awful, and not in the least bit subtle on English’s part. If someone wrote this about me, I would realize immediately that deep down, this reporter despises me, despite the weak attempt to sugarcoat this nonsense in a way that (the less intelligent) die-hard Kate fans can read literally and still ostensibly spin as positive (supportive wife!), and would stay as far away from her as possible going forward. The entire thing is a disaster and I cannot imagine Kate is happy that this is what was published to honor her “landmark” birthday? I am so embarrassed for her, and she just invited William and Charles to respond with pieces of their own showing how they really feel about Kate. Wooton is probably furiously typing away right now.
Kate could have picked up the phone and denied the crying story. But the story lingered and the media kept telling this story about Meghan. ANd Uncle Gary of course had to “defend” poor Kate because she would NEVER ever lie and so on and so forth, plus she should be the next Queen. It just shows Kate’s attitude.
Why would she pick up the phone and deny the story when she’s the one (or her people) who put it out there? Plus, this article is deflecting, claiming there were “other people there” (as if to imply THOSE people leaked this story). Here’s the issue with that: we can all safely assume who was at this particular fitting – Claire Waight Keller (the designer), plus whichever Givenchy staff was on hand (people who managed to not reveal CWK was designing the dress or anything else regarding the multiple OTHER fittings, etc), plus the mothers of the other bridesmaids (which were either Meghan’s or Harry’s friends), Doria, Kate, and her nanny. Plus the little bridesmaids. Now, with that in mind, who would benefit from a bitchy story about Kate crying because of Meghan?
I don’t think the non royal kids and moms were there when kate had her fit. There would have been too many witnesses and the crying story would have been shut down by them much earlier. I think kate felt she could act as poorly as she did because it was likely just Meghan, kate and Charlotte, nanny Maria, maybe Carole and the Givenchy staff. Kate felt comfortable to act this way because she didn’t care about the staff witnessing her behaviour. Meghan’s friends would have intimidated her, and they would have sided with Meghan about the tights making kate look even more foolish.
Agree totally that there weren’t many people around @nic919 bc Kate acted egregiously and wouldn’t have in front of Meghan’s friends.
There was a minute where I considered whether someone else leaked the crying story and the palace wouldn’t allow Kate to correct it.
But nah. Hell nah. Agree 100% @bex with why would she call and correct this story when she’s the one who put it out there. At this point, I think Kate’s mom leaked this story to Camilla Tominey. I think it was the same week of the initial crying story that Carole Middleton did an interview with the Telegraph. And I think it might have been her very first interview with the press?
After the story was out, the palace protected Kate’s lie; this is one of the ways Jason Knauf proved his loyalty. Soooo easily this story could have been corrected. But it wasn’t.
Bc Kate wanted the story that evil black Meghan made her cry out there and she knew the racists would eat it right up. It’s really interesting how the article makes the point to refute the fact that Kate schemed to have this story leaked.
I actually wish Kate felt better about herself and was a better person, lived up to that good person moniker that Meghan graciously gave her, because then maybe she wouldn’t go around spreading racist negativity into the world. Sometimes it sounds so naive to say you wish someone well when they caused you such harm but its about being hopeful and optimistic that it will make the overall world a better place if that insecure bitter person feels better about themselves.
Kate is fueling racism in the UK. Her racism is allowing others to feel more comfortable with their own racism. The repercussions of her racist mean girl high school mentality are still reverberating.
They really need to let this bridesmaids dress situation go! It’s beyond pathetic at this point. Also, how lame are you that it’s your 40th birthday, but they have to bring up your sister-in-law and deceased mother-in-law to add some razzle dazzle. She wishes she was like them, it’s laughable.
So in summary: She’s keen but does nothing, she doesn’t want to replicate Diana but cosplays her constantly, M apparently made K cry but K apologized and took M flowers to apologize, She spearheaded Heads Together but now Harry has gone nothing is happening, she’s so busy doing work on charitable endeavors but her charities seemingly all fail, Charles was jealous of her but now they are best friends, She allegedly reached out to Meghan when she first arrived but waited until after the 2019 interview to check if she was ok, She wants to be seen as the QM figure who was a known racist, and TQ is “comforted that the future of her dynasty appears assured” after asking what K actually did before she was engaged because she has given birth to three children. Oh and her cloest ally in the RF is someone 17 years older who relies on either Charles or William for scraps – nice power imbalance there K
I love how succinctly you explained how pathetic Catty Keen really is.
TY and yes, pathetic is a good way to describe her.
Kate is a lazyB . She thinks the world owes her something for marrying william and that we should all kiss her lady ass for being keen. What an insult to working moms everywhere. So many who’s tax payers pounds are use to support a woman that thinks attending two galas and a movie in one week is too much. Do you know how many moms would kill for one day off of their Jobs to just do nothing for a day? But no I am supposed to feel sorry for the pampered princess who has to squeeze in her sussage curl appointment in between shopping and Botox because those are the only appointments and meetings this B has. She doesn’t even have to cook the children dinner. I can’t stand this woman
+1 @OverIt. I couldn’t have said it better myself.
Preach!
Yes, it’s a new year and time for another embiggening article. She did 100 engagements while having a cook and a housekeeper, what work ethic! And the media is still fighting battles for her from years ago when everyone else has moved on and is actually doing, you know, work. Her one ribbon was earned for keeping her mouth shut over her husband’s wandering affection while Camilla is outworking her during her damn 70s. Was an embiggening article “owed” to her because the cheating is ramping up, I wonder?
Rebecca Deacon left Kate’s employ in 2017, I believe.
Rebecca Deacon left Kate’s employ in 2017, I believe.
I thought the argument was about “staff”? As in ” Meghan was mean to Kate’s staff, blah, blah, blah.” Didn’t Camilla’s “dear friend” swear that’s how it went down? These people are all a bunch of despicable liars, I have no respect for any of them, from the tip top down.
That was the Middleton spin a couple weeks ago. That Kate was completely justified in whatever she did, because evil WOC Meghan was doing something to Kate’s beloved staff (whom she sees once every six week).
My husband is in a position where people sometimes request financial help. He says he can spot who is lying by listening to them tell their story. If you listen long enough and the story keeps changing and you know they are lying. This is exactly what is happening here with the crying story on Kate’s end. It’s completely bonkers.
With the way that Christmas card photo was positioned, Charlotte and Louis may want to consider themselves among staff starting now. So it probably works out in the KP’s mind!
“No that is too much for that week”. LoL, I got an appointment with my beautician on Monday and I need the week to recover, the story of her life. She finds it easier to say no to work, how confident, lmao. And why this rehashing of Meghan story every week, Kate’s image just HAS to be right. The British press are so empty that going after an innocent woman is how they get their kicks.
There’s nothing to say about her. She wears clothes and poses for pictures. Her cardboard cut out life can only be given substance by mentioning others and pretending they were mean to her.
So there is a video from one of Meghans first events as part of the :foursome”. Kate is pregnant and they’re walking onto a stage. It’s a few little moments, but Meghan and Kate actually look very friendly, and Kate makes an effort to look after her.
I’m not saying she was this welcoming beacon of light, but I do think she may have been a little more pleasant than this website would have us to believe.
LOL. Did you honestly think Kate would act like a bitch to someone just joining the family (at that point) in front of the the cameras??? She was quite smiley at Meghan during Meghan’s first Christmas walk too. ALL eyes were on the BRF at this time. Of course Kate was going to pretend to be nice. It’s just like how Kate made a show of ignoring Meghan and Archie at a local polo event and smiled in her face two days later at internationally popular event Wimbledon.
Maybe she was and that’s fine. But it doesn’t mean that how she treated Meghan afterwards was okay just because she was nice in the beginning.
She wasn’t nice in the beginning. Remember the shopping story, where she refused to even be seen with Meghan in public? And how she refused to be introduced to Meghan when Harry and Meghan were dating?
And William and Kate made sure Harry could not bring Meghan to an event honoring Diana. Before he married Meghan.
Yes, the completely private memorial at Althorp. Meghan had flown over to attend with Harry, W&K banned her.
Not to mention how the Middletons told the tabloids that Meghan was banned from Pippa’s wedding because girlfriends/boyfriends weren’t invited (“no ring, no bring”); yet Jack Brooksbank attended as Eugenie’s plus one.
So she appears friendly towards Meghan the very first time cameras have a shot of them all together. Considering this family and their PR stunting, I don’t think that holds up as evidence of anything.
Exactly.
Kate has that fake smile.
Exactly! So we’re supposed to think Kate was “friendly” because she smiled when she knew the cameras were on her? The bar is really in hell when it comes to her.
She also looked like a deer in headlights the majority of the time at that engagement. I truly believe that was the first time she and William realized what they were up against – Meghan was intelligent and no lightweight and was going to run circles around them. Harry looked pleased as punch and so proud of Meghan. I remember those photos clearly.
@Swirlmamad ITA that it really hit them that day. They knew how bad it looked. At that point Kate still had one more maternity leave to look forward to, so she might have been able to put off some of the worrying, but it was clear to anyone watching that she was absolutely aware of how inferior she looked in comparison to Meghan.
Also, how is @Lindsey being a “troll” by politely giving her personal reaction to a video?! Are we that intolerant here, no comment that doesn’t agree with your own opinion should be shot down as trolling and flagged for deletion? JFC
LOL. Nice try and fail there. Kate only ever does things for herself. Kate and Carole worked against Meghan from the start. Refused to even be introduced to Meghan during the first year (at least) of dating.
Another reminder that when an obvious troll shows up, just respond ‘troll’ and move on.
I won’t ever forget those pictures in the carriage right after Meghan gave birth. It was Harry, Megs, Kate and Camilla. Kate has this smug I hate your guts and will bury you look on her face when she looks at Meghan and Meghan is looking out at the crowd and Camilla is looking at Kate like she can’t believe Kate could be so openly hostile to Meghan in public with that look. Nope Kate is a fake and she sucks at keeping up appearances.
Are Kate and Camilla close? They don’t seem like it and Camilla was warmer to Meghan at her first garden party for Charles’s birthday.
This article is sooo full of tea and b!tchy snark, love it. Its basically confirming what we all know. Kate is a lazy, mean girl who schemed/stalked her way to be Bully’s wife and is still scheming/bulling to stay there.
While I buy that Bully is controlling but let’s face it, she comes across as they type who like that – she once famously commented that William ‘looks after her’. She’s one of those infantilised women who loves it when others do things for them, tells them how to think etc…
Buttons is where she wants to be – the fight is now about staying there as its obvs he has checked out of the marriage and has someone else. I still believe he was planning on dumping her ass when Sussexit happened – which will happen when TQ passes. She and the Middletons know this and they are trying to hang on to get the Princess of Wales title for Buttons – then the Diana cosplay will be complete.
With Meghan – I think at first she might have made nice but at some point the worm turned. When they were in public I always got the impression they were people who didn’t see each other very often – we know that Harry and William were not as close as KP would have us believe. And that William liked to keep Kate and the children at arms length from his family.
I agree, a separation was already in the works when Harry fell for Meghan. With all of that, it meant William couldn’t leave Kate publicly. The last two years of freedom, living separately from her at Sandringham, has only upped his desire to end the marriage. If he decides to divorce her, he’ll play nice with Charles to make it happen. Charles will withhold the POW title until after the divorce. She’ll be left with the Cambridge title, while he, kids, and wife #2 will use the POW title.
This has always been my theory. There were so many comments about William’s rage at Sussexit, his anger, his hurt, and on the tails of that we got all those pictures of William and Charles as the loving father-child pair. William seemed to take Sussexit so PERSONALLY and while I’m sure that a large part of that was due to losing control over his brother and scapegoat, I also thought it was clear that there was something else going on behind the scenes and a Cambridge divorce would explain that.
If William was on the verge of divorcing Kate, and then Sussexit was announced and he was told he couldn’t – it would explain his rage, why he was taking it so personally, why to this day, two years later, he cannot accept it. Yes, all that is in part to losing control of Harry, to having some of the Firm’s secrets laid bare, etc – of course it is – but I think being told “no, you can’t divorce her right now” would just send him over the top and explain a lot about the past two years. And it would explain his playing nice with Charles, because he wants Charles to support him in the divorce.
Becks1, I think William was trying to get out before Sussexit, back when Harry and Meghan first started getting serious. Baby #2 was a given, but he spent most of that year (2014-5) away from Kate pretending to be doing a training program at Cambridge and additional flight training away from her. 2016 pretending to work at EAAA, but being called out for never being there, never working, and wasn’t around Kate much either. 2017 acting out and getting caught Dad dancing on their separate holidays.
The Welsh farmhouse and Anmer Hall always felt like a way for the royals to hide how little time W&K spend together. A Crown Estate property or purchased home, their movements would have been easier to track. Anmer would enable secret separate lives from the start, like what we’ve seen for the past two years.
I think William was mentally checked out around the time she was pregnant with Louis, which is also when Harry and Meghan were more serious and basically engaged (late 2017). This is around the time the alleged affair with Rose is said to have been happening as well. He was very open about not wanting more than two kids for years, until the Verbier ski incident had him caught on video earlier in 2017. It’s likely he was resentful about the whole situation in general and worse to her than usual, especially seeing how in love Harry was with Meghan. He also did something around the time of Harry and Meghan’s wedding that was known to the family, which Meghan knew of, based on how she said that kate was a good person when she explained the crying story.
It’s possible that he wanted out during the dad dancing period, and Louis trapped him into staying. Then, Meg and Harry were getting married, and that was another delay. Perhaps Will wanted to destroy their wedding as cover? But then Sussexit happened, and it was even more delay. Maybe all those “Will needs Harry for his reign” stories were about Will needing Harry for good press following a divorce? He expected a “Diana’s two single sons” press deluge after he ditched Kate? Would explain why he wanted Harry single and in England.
@Becks I totally agree with this. It’s the only thing that explains how William’s rage has only continued to grow with time and worsen. He blamed Harry meeting Meghan and all the drama that followed for the delay in his personal life to begin with —I agree that obviously he was also angry at the loss of his brother as his human shield, but as you said, there’s more to it. There’s something that everyone hints around but never flat-out reveals.
My guess would be (although who TFknows with these people) is that Charles has forced him to either postpone it, at least until after the Queen has died, he’s been coronated and is firmly into his reign — or Charles has changed his mind completely and told William the divorce is no longer allowed; there’s already too much instability.
So he was already angry with Harry for many reasons, jealousy being a big one along with loss of control, to THEN to be further put off for god knows how many years due to the pandemic, Philip’s death, more pandemic… no doubt he blames it all on Meghan coming along when she did.
It is painfully obvious how disgusted William is by Kate whenever he has to appear with her or hear her speak, and imo it’s visibly gotten much worse over the past year or so. He cannot even pretend for the cameras anymore. In William’s mind, if Sussexit hadn’t happened (actually, forget that— if Harry had never even met Meghan at all) his own life would have looked completely different by now. So his bitterness toward Harry still eats away at him, every day. It would explain why it feels like he’s constantly on the edge of snapping, and why, for us, watching the Cambridges together feels like waiting for the next shoe to drop.
As for William being controlling? Kate is just as controlling, nasty, bullying, and racist as he is. He dumped her repeatedly over her controlling nature. As someone mentioned the other day, this is like ‘The best job the Devil ever did was convincing humans he didn’t exist’. Kate has the whole smoke and mirrors thing down pat, standing back rubbing her lazy hands together with glee while others do everything around her.
The big breakup in 2007 came after Kate and the Middletons attended his passing out at Sandhurst. Kate was grinning inanely and lip readers claimed she was raving about how sexy William looked. I think she expected the ring and so did her family. He gave her a bracelet instead of a ring. ANd at their next appearance he looked miserable when they went to the races at Cheltenham. And then the women he wanted did not want him (after the breakup) and he was lured back tot he Middletons. But I think in essence he and Kate deserve each other.
‘ As for nursery drop-offs, she has at least one full-time nanny AND no one forced the Keens to spend all that time in Norfolk, necessitating a “race” to get to London. ‘
Didn’t the first two start nursery school in Norfolk? Kate dropping one child off at nursery school, leaving the other with the nannies. Then doing one 15 minute engagement somewhere else, is what exhausted her. Poor precious.
George did nursery in Norfolk but Charlotte went to nursery in London.
Ah, right. Which was several months later than when their son started nursery school. Another sign of Kate’s laziness. Keep your child out of school because it gives you an excuse not to work.
Just like they did the first spring of the pandemic, when children Charlotte’s age were told to go back to school for their social development. W&K kept her out of school and went to Norfolk, against the advice of the government and education specialists. But really, Keen Kate the Early Childhood crusader knows better.
The future future Queen turns 40 and 75% of the puff piece is dedicated to her sister-in-law married to the 6th in line and who lives on another continent. How pathetic for Kate.
Edit: and regarding the worried mummy stuff, I can buy that Kate does worry about her kids a lot. No matter what your socio-economic bracket, you do worry about your kids wellbeing. But she’s not a regular SAHM that she’s painted out to be. SAHMs do not have nannies, household staff etc to run their households. It’s pretty much them and maybe a housekeeper/nanny if they can afford it. And that’s not Kate’s fault but they should really stop painting her as this “humble and regular” SAHM when she just isn’t.
Kate is a WAG supported by taxpayers. Her days are filled with working out with her personal trainer, her tennis lessons, her three times a week hair appointments, and loads of shopping. Not with childcare, housework, cooking, and certainly not with working.
Plus her piano lessons and her sketching lessons. How anyone could look at this woman and pretend she has a lack of leisure time is beyond me.
In depends on your income bracket, I know a lot of stay at home moms, that have Nannies and or housekeepers.
Right now in my area schools are going 8 to 1 then students go home and do remote 2 to 3:30.
Most of the moms will be picking their children from school.
Hence why I said, if they can afford it.
The reason Kate’s PR is so disingenuous is bc she tries to sell her “middle class” roots to appeal to the masses at large, while at the same time attempting to emulate the quintessential jobless aristocratic lady who lunches. She does this bc she knows that she’s gatekept out of acceptance by the aristocracy, but the official PR line from her and the BRF is that she’s an appealing member of the royal family because of how relatable she is, so she has to follow that. But her insecurities about her class is pretty obvious, which is why her trying to capitalize off her middle class identity makes me honestly infuriated on some level. She’s a fake, who doesn’t moisturize.
Odd that Kate doesn’t want to tell us about her childhood research center but rather is still obsessing about Meghan.
Also Kate is such a regressive figure. A woman wanting credit for her work is self-absorbed
Remember the freak out when Megan’s friends spoke to People magazine? It’s okay for Rebecca Deacon and Kate’s people to speak to the Daily Mail?
Right? Wouldn’t this be the perfect medium to talk about the Early Years Buttons Institute? We literally have not heard one more word uttered about that since they brought it up back in the summer. Unreal.
20 years from now, charlotte will do an interview with oprah because she is fed up of george keep throwing her under the bus.
One of the topic she will expose is my mother told so many lies about what happen during aunty meghan wedding, that i am ashame she is using my name in her lies.
@LikeYouCare, I thought the exact same thing. Kate dragged Charlotte into this sh!tshow and has continued to include her in this nasty, fake narrative without seeming to consider how this might affect Charlotte down the road. She’s going to read allllll of this. Charlotte might very well end up feeling partially guilty for the way things ended up. Leave your small child out of it, ffs.
When Kate and William got married, and then during her disappearing Duchess act before and during her pregnancies with George and Charlotte, much was made of the “Middleton Rules.” The media framed that as some agreement between Normal Bill and Michael Middleton about the Middletons remaining involved with the family after the marriage and “other steps,” including aggressive use of lawyers, to “ensure Kate” would not become the “next Diana.” The aggressive use of lawyers is about the only concrete step the media let the public know. It’s pretty obvious now what the rest of it was – an agreement to place no public obligations on Kate at all, to allow her to live the life she would have lived if she had simply used her MRS degree to marry some Earl’s second son or some banker. The tidbits here about how she can’t even handle and couldn’t in the past handle the few public appearances she did make in the past because of her alleged need to be with her children 24/7 go to that. They never seem to be on her mind when she’s at the shops though, or going to 1 of the 85 weddings/parties she used to attend. But it’s quite obvious now that the Middleton Rules were really about spoiled, taxpayer supported Kate, completely unsuited to the role of Princess of Wales, being protected from any scrutiny of any of her actions. And btw, if she had any self esteem or confidence in anything but her looks and hair, it wouldn’t take her 5 hours to get ready for an evening event. She wouldn’t need to plan the entire day around getting ready. She is who turns every appearance into a movie premiere – no one else.
William will be able to turn all of this around on her quickly in a divorce. She’s lazy, incompetent, cannot function as an adult, is tied to her mummy’s apron strings at 40, the Middletons are a dangerous controlling force in the lives of the heir to the heir to the heir.
If and when they do divorce it’s going to be a glorious slagging match. Can you imagine the stuff that will come out? The gutter press will have a field day!
I think the Middleton rules are in exchange for tolerating the cheating in silence. With the expectation that he doesn’t flaunt it, which he seemed to do with the Rose affair.
” And btw, if she had any self esteem or confidence in anything but her looks and hair, it wouldn’t take her 5 hours to get ready for an evening event. She wouldn’t need to plan the entire day around getting ready. She is who turns every appearance into a movie premiere – no one else.”
Sorta like the true aristocrats, Princess Anne, Duchess Camila and Marchioness Rose, do???
I imagine the RF spent a very long time enforcing “protocol” to control the Middletons, especially Kate and Carole before Meghan’s arrival.
The story always seems to be about tights, right? I’m sure, especially post some car exits, they had really pushed tights on Kate. Plus all the years of Kate and her family can’t come to the holidays because of blah blah blah, and other gaslighting because William didn’t want to hang with Kate. I’m sure the family found the Middletons exhausting and came up with reasons they shouldn’t come.
Then here comes Meghan’s bare legged wedding kids, the Doria inclusions, Meghan’s dog in the queens car you name it.
Whatever Kate and her family dealt with, they thought they were playing by the rules of the Firm for outsiders. Then boom, meghan. Carole and Kate would have would have been pissed. All that shit they went through was for them as people, not Royal protocol.
The Middletons went after Meghan, not their actual abusers. And I am sure that Harry saw possible problems with his family coming, but not Kate and Carole.
So stupid. I instead of being happy that it was easier for Meghan, they made it about themselves. The Middletons: when sashes matter more than people.
The Palace has never controlled the Middletons. They’ve been free to continue their open relationships with multiple editors of the Mail on sunday, tabloid hacks, paparazzi, all of it.
Totally! I mean it more from controlling the logistics of even being around each other. Like when families come up with excuses to not hang out with other members of the family.
“The story always seems to be about tights, right?” Nope. The story has jumped back and forth between a few different stories. The other prominent story that got passed around is that Meghan was being rude to her staff, and Kate got all righteously indignant and “gave her a bollocking” and “put Meghan in her place.”
What’s really funny now, in recollection, is that in spite of all the endless insistences that Megahn really did make Kate cry, the story they trot out almost never makes Kate look good, even if she is the victim. All of it makes her sound like an awful person, even though she’s the one crying. That honestly makes me think that whatever happened, even with Kate trying to lie, the truth is that she behaved terribly and she knows it.
I read that as she’ll be the Princess of Wales by her next birthday and thought that’s rude. But no it’s saying by 50? Probably somewhere between TBH.
I would bet money she will not be Princess of Wales by her next birthday. Even if the worst happened and Charles was king tomorrow, I don’t believe he will giv POW to Billy for a while.
All I got from this is Kate/KP is quite obsessed with Meghan. There must’ve a tantrum of epic proportions when Meghan corrected the crying incident during the Oprah interview. The fact that she/her team is still giving different account of what happened years after the fact and almost a year after the Oprah interview…..I agree with other commentators that they DESPERATELY don’t want what actually happened to get out.
Meghan’s competence on the job messed things up for Kate even now that she’s gone. Kate will forever be in direct competition with Meghan even though Meghan is not competing with her. Meghan is the bar and Kate can’t meet it so I’m not surprised they’re still doing everything they can to bring Meghan down a few notches.
Agree S808 that they desperately don’t want what happened to come out. It’s been mentioned here before but the fact that Kate actually wrote an apology indicates how bad it was. I think Kate said some truly terrible things and acted truly unhinged. Like jaw-dropping and shocking. This was no little thing.
I agree with both of you, I think its tied to William’s affair somehow but even if its not, its clear that whatever happened at that fitting, Kate was absolutely in the wrong and the story makes her look HORRIBLE, so they have spent years at this point scrambling to put a different spin on it. And that’s what it’s been, years. We first heard of this in late 2018 so over 3 years, and the incident happened before the 18 wedding, so that’s almost 4 years now depending on when this incident was.
What the hell happened that day? What did Kate say? It had to be BAD.
It’s the week before Kate’s birthday and she’s getting yet another white washing of her story? It seems like the periods between the rehashing of these stories to try and make Kate look good are getting shorter and shorter?
CarolE Middleton PR at work again?
The dress fitting incident is so fascinating to me because I want to know was said that was so bad that it made someone cry but not bad enough to leave behind hard feelings (at the time). It also sounds like Kate did cry too, maybe after the whole incident, even if just from her own actions. I wonder if after the tights disagreement Kate threatened to pull her kids from the bridal party altogether, causing Meghan to cry. Then after pretty much everyone tells Kate she can’t do that because the optics would be horrible, you get her crying and the apology letter.
I wish if her children were not there. At least all this drama would not have happened. Also, her children had nothing to do with Harry, except he is their uncle.
Why didn’t Kate or her mother keep their big mouths shut about it? Meghan wasn’t the one to run to the press, Team Keen did that. And why keep bringing it up going on four years later, with all these different versions, each claiming to be the truth? Kate and her mama are a pair of trouble making b!tches, and you can throw Sophie and Camilla in there too.
Nope. Nuh uh. I refuse to let the record be rewritten by Lying Waity. Kate did not cry. She got worked up into a fury, tore Meghan a new one, made Meghan cry, then went home and probably felt awful bc her real personality was on display and she knew she had to fix things even though she didn’t want to. I don’t think she shed a single tear. She knows it too. She can try to write it however she likes.
a lot of posters turned up today to try and make kate out to be some kind of victim. big surprise. they always come in packs.
What are the chances Kate said a few racist things to Meghan when she had a fit? I would say they are high.
How has NO ONE ever leaked what actually happened that day? There must have been some seamstresses around who at the very least overheard! There is no way I’d be able to resist spilling it all right here on CB if I’d witnessed that. It’s anonymous, and people have probably changed roles by now anyway.
I’ll bet they were pretty bad, although probably not racist as such. It was definitely motivated by racism though, specifically the idea that a black woman is marrying into the royal family and presuming to give orders to her own employees with confidence and sureness, and how dare a black woman do that.
I think there were very few people there that day. It might not have been at the fitting itself either – Meghan said to Oprah that “the topic was correct” (i.e. about the bridesmaids’ dresses), she didn’t say that it had happened at a fitting. So its possible that maybe Kate and Meghan were talking after a fitting or something and Kate blew up at Meghan, maybe with some KP staffers around, so presumably one of them leaked it (presumably i.e. so Kate has some plausible deniability that it wasnt her or her family, although we all know it was.)
But at any rate, if there were not many people here, if the accurate story actually came out, it would be really easy to narrow down who it was from, and I think Meghan told her people to stand down on this issue.
I do not understand how any active, involved mother defends Kate. The woman is luxuriating in wealth and privilege. She has all the help and support at her disposal. And all she’s expected to do in return is kiss some babies, take some calls, cut some ribbons.
And yet we as mothers are supposed to believe that’s just too difficult to manage, even as her children get older and need less hands on attention even if I did buy that she’s the primary caretaker?
As for the rest, as a professional, biracial woman myself, it’s no surprise to see white women proclaiming how much effort they put into doing their passive aggressive least and how their microaggressions just were taken in exactly the ingratiating, obnoxious spirit they were offered, not the grand, magnanimous gesture they’d hoped it would appear.
I’m not even a mom, and even I’m angry about the stuff she’s expecting sympathy for.
Kate is all about picking sides and starting fights, that’s all I’ve seen of her. It’s exhausting.
I’m so over the Daily Fail and their stale BS stories, different day, different version, constant retreads. They’ll be mining 2018-2019 for the next 30 years with their clickbait outrage. They think Harry and Meghan just being visible and living their lives as they see fit is a constant attack on the royal family. Whatever.
Not really on the theme here, but reading Kate’s mouthpiece attempt to diminish Meghan got me realising once again the Mumbles hates Meghan. Jealous of her and hates her. I got this impression not because Commonwealth debacle but fron the Golf play, when Meghan was with newborn Archie and Kate with her kids.
Only the cruelest and heartless woman could behave in such manner to the other woman who just gave birth ans was standing nearby holding her newborn.
Also remember “What ELSE?” + eyeroll that happened recently?
I wish Mumbles dearest would stop to use Meghan name in her PR. She showed to the world enough, nothing her lackeys write can change it.
There is a story that keeps getting left out Kate changes boarding schools as a teenager The reason given is that she is bullied because she is so perfect I have worked with girls that age and that is false The person bullied rarely leaves Almost always the bully leaves in their own accord or they are asked to leave She must have been part of the mean girls back in those days
@Pat Gaddess Interesting. I’ve heard that story, but now I REALLY want to know what happened there.
Kate’s PR/family has a weird hang-up with trying to sell her as “perfect”. The problem is that we all no that’s a lie, nobody is perfect.
Oprah’s interview took a wrecking ball to Kate’s image and the different defenses out of KP don’t help. And the Fail letting the negative comments stay up is payback for ANL’s big L in Meghan’s lawsuit.
Kate is no Queen Mother. The Queen Mother had an actual work ethic.
And the Queen Mum worked very hard doing the bread-and-butter engagements that no one else, until Anne, wanted to do. The Queen Mum KNEW how important one-on-one contact is with the average Joe Smith at the local village fete and village grammar school graduation ceremony.
Prince Phillip KNEW this too which is why he went all over the UK and Commonwealth opening up playing fields and attending the opening ceremonies of sporting events.
How small of a person Kate is to be relitigating an incident that made her upset *4 years* ago. I fully believe MM but even if there was another crying incident that’s being rolled into the famous one, it doesn’t explain the fact that Kate feels compelled to play the victim card. My goodness, her memory must be something else. I doubt I’d be able to give the level of detail she continues to provide about such a minor incident from 4 years ago.
Also, just want to say that the photo of her looking at the pie chart always makes me laugh. So she dressed up to learn about these figures? Was the marketing firm who conducted the ridiculously flawed survey presenting to her? Shouldn’t she already know these things since she’s such a Subject Matter Expert? 🙄
I honestly believe that Kate was in a state because William was wandering and women like her lash out and use the little power they have against the people they find inferior.
And Kate would rather continue blaming MM for this tiny incident than acknowledge it’s really her ain’t shit husband she’s mad at
The thing is, her memory isn’t even that good. There are at least five different versions of the crying incident that I’ve seen since the story first came out. All of them differ on the major details, and only seem to agree on the idea that Meghan made Kate cry, which is and will always be a flat out lie. The fact that Kate can’t keep her story straight proves that even more.
She’s really this desperate huh? ‘Not self-absorbed’ my foot, she’s always sending someone to the press to wax poems about her farts, come on.
And this “that the notoriously private Kate schemed to have details of the incident leaked to the media is laughable”.. what’s laughable is that everybody and their mothers know the Keens go arm in arm with the press or send their “friends”, lol.
And she really should keep ‘Heads Together’ out of her mouth after how they treated H&M, surely shows how much she and Baldy care for mental health.
“Not that she would ever be so self-absorbed as to tell you that” is the funniest line in this whole article for me. Notice it’s not Rebecca that says this but “another friend” who makes this comment. Why do I think this “another friend” is saying this knowing exactly how it sounds?
She looks older than her years in the website picture.
So… having had the entire philanthropic world “at her feet” and knowing what was expected of a “young, glamorous” new member of the royal family, she STILL chose to do nothing, and now she wants us to know that it was a choice.
Also, I believe she’s tried this tactic of trying to model herself after the “steel marshmallow” queen mum before, but by 40, I’m pretty sure the elder Elizabeth had done several international tours, made frequent public speeches in support of the war effort and allies, frequently toured and visited hospitals etc within London, particularly the hard hit East ends, and didn’t disappear for months at a time. Unless Kate wants to compare her work output to the queen mum in her much later years? Honestly, even then, it might be close. Not flattering for Kate any way you slice it!
She has. This has consistently tracked to the beginning of Kate’s marriage. When Kate got married they were trying to avoid comparisons to Diana, which is why they consciously tried to associate her with a figure like the QM, who I guess they saw as appropriately revered and not polarizing at all.
At one point, the official PR line was, she wants to be seen and not heard, like the Queen Mother, or something along those lines. Never mind the fact that the QM was a scheming b-tch, who definitely not only made herself seen but very much heard.
Just how did this B. try to avoid comparisons to Princess Diana when she intentionally wore the same color/motif maternity garment after each of her newborn children — while cosplaying Diana on the steps of the hospital! Are you kidding me?
IKR. She wanted to avoid being compared unfavourably to Diana, I think, which is why they came up with the whole, “She’s actually trying to emulate the QM,” line. Favourable comparisons to Diana are perfectly acceptable. Being asked why Kate isn’t anywhere close to being the sort of public figure that Diana is is not.
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And the Queen Mother when a young woman (from a privileged family) made a point of working, she volunteered to help injured soldiers in hospitals during the War. She was not even in line to be Queen Consort (Prince Edward was thought to eventually choose the suitable wife for his future Queen) but was sent on royal duties with her husband (when they were Duke and Duchess of York) even a lengthy tour. No comparison to Kate’s lack of effort to work.
I do want to point out that the Queen Mother, by her own definition, most definitely did not work. Taking an interest in charitable endeavours is not working. Working means a specific thing in Britain, and aristocratic women like the Queen Mother would have been offfended at the implication that they worked a trade.
The Queen Mother did not work. She would be the first to say that. Her duties as part of the royal family is not something she’d consider “work” in her definition. It was her duty. She helped out injured soldiers bc it was her family’s duty, as members of the aristocracy, to help out in the war effort (and her “work” was to hang around and chat with them and keep their spirits up). She went on tours with her husband bc it was her duty, as the wife of a member of the royal family, to be seen as interacting with the people and taking an interest in their welfare.
But make no mistake about it–both her charitable endeavours with the convalescing soldiers, and her royal duties, are not seen as “work” in her eyes, or by anyone else in Britain. The impetus to do those things comes from a deeply patronizing place. The idea very much is that as the superior entities in society, they have a duty to behave in a certain way towards those they think are lesser than them. It’s actually all very gross and paternalistic and deeply tied up in the class system in Britain.
The QM, by her own admission, did very little, especially when she was growing up and as a young lady in society. She didn’t do too well in school, didn’t really pay much attention to her lessons, didn’t pass her exams, and spent most of her time until her marriage carousing around with a group of single friends, going to parties, and coming home in the early hours of the morning. That was her life, and she was very much happy and proud of it.
QM was also a racist, spendthrift partygirl who has pickled with drink most of the time. A nasty, jealous woman who went after the POW first but he rejected her. She settled for marriage with Bertie, but her jealousy was part of why she was so awful to/about Wallis for years.
This is a non issue story- that we’re taking to much oxygen in. Be aware of what’s really going on. Why’s all of a sudden all these Charlotte stories out. Is it now that the rota and Kate/Carol seeing there’s an unspoken competition that’ll be in the future. So we’ll get first dibs.
Why’s KP trying to get a jump in the new year on these Kate and will stories? Is it because we’ll hear more on California this year- so we’ll get first dibs.
Who’s coming to the jubilee? Will or won’t they
Who’s going to the Earthshot tour? Will or won’t they? This should be the focus and not these non stories-which if you look on the daily fail-is already near the bottom on the side of the front page
It makes it look bad for Kate to bring her daughter into this. Shameful.
It also makes her look desperate that she’s dragging her daughter into her revisionist history. She’s shameless.
You know, I wish Omid or some other intrepid reporter or Twitter poster would do a spreadsheet including dates of all of these various versions of the crying story. I think it would blow people’s minds to see how many twists and turns this stupid story has taken, all in order to protect the “fragile” English rose.
Um…er…I’m late to the party, but when have the Middletons ever been “unflashy?” Before there was reality TV, these guys were a sign of public-tackyness-to-come…🙄🤪🤣😈
I’ve always believed Harry got upset after the bridesmaid incident and told Kate she needed to apologize. I don’t see her apologizing of her own volition. And I suspect Kate/Carole leaked the “Meg made Kate cry” story as revenge for Kate being put in her place.
Hence, why she can’t let it go. And can’t stand that Meg corrected the story.
I also think she said something low key racist.
I 100% agree that she said something racist when she pitched a fit.
I 100% agree with ALL of this and believe that your version is the closest to the truth of what actually happened. I think that Harry confronted Kate himself after the incident and demanded that she apologize, and IF Kate had shed any tears herself then THAT was the reason why. I don’t believe that Kate would or has ever apologized to anybody like this on her own accord, but in this case I think she was afraid of “losing” Harry (in her mind) and having him see her in such a bad light (in reality). I think that a big part of why she can’t let this go is because she is resentful that she had to “lower” herself to apologize to Meghan for Harry’s sake, but ended up “losing” him anyway because ultimately his love and loyalty was always going to belong to Meghan, not her. Fast forward 6-7 months later, with the rest of the family now also seething with jealousy and primed to knock H&M down a few pegs over the successful Oceana/Australia tour, and viola….perfect timing to drop the “Meghan made Kate cry” bomb and get her revenge
This is….the WORST puff piece I have ever read.
I’m surprised they’re still bothering with rehashing all of this old stuff. Kate ended the year by keenly planning that keen xmas concert–why wouldn’t they use that? Give us examples of how she organized the concert and rallied the royal cousins and rehearsed day and night or whatever they want us to think she did. This makes her seem small and petty and extremely boring. I used to think they were just extremely private, but now I see that Will and Kate are just weird and sheltered and mean. Yawn.
That first paragraph just kills me.
“astutely alert to the royals’ unflustered ways, Kate has refused to be rushed” Oh really, because she’s “astutely alert”? Also, the royals can afford to be unflustered because they pull their weight–at least, according to the bar set for royalty.
“one of our monarchy’s immutable strengths is its repudiation of the modern fad to bend to prevailing fashion” This amuses the hell out of me when I consider that a lot of this seems written not only to specifically challenge all the criticisms of Kate, but to pander to their target audience: cranky old people who are always bitching about the younger generations and who like to moan that younger people are lazy and don’t care about hard work and effort. Now they’re being asked to swallow that such things are a “modern fad” and “prevailing fashion”? 😆
When I saw a poster’s comment that the DF commenters were having a go at Keen, I couldn’t help myself and had to check it out! And yes, the majority of comments are critical or rude about Keen and the DF does indicate that the comments are not moderated!
Interestingly, the article in the DF is fairly short and doesn’t contain much of the info that Kaiser included, although it seems that it’s been edited down as some of the comments alluded to parts of the story that are no longer there.
Instead, at the end of the article, there is a link to The Dim with the original story, including all the copy excerpted and reprinted by Kaiser.
Also, the Dim used the Cambridges 2020 Christmas photo, and i have noticed over the holidays that the trend has been to use that official photo instead of the one they actually released in 2021.
Hold my beer. This vapid narcissist of a woman needs a refresher on all the bullshit she and her husband put Meghan through, while refusing to “work”. I picked one, of hundreds.
https://www.celebitchy.com/632117/the_sussexes_might_get_shipped_to_africa_as_their_semi-permanent_home/
wow! some of the comments to that article are … a LOT!
I read in a book (Robert Lacey’s Battle of Brothers, I think) that QEII had “her people” look into the idea that the Sussexes could spend six months of each year based in South Africa doing Commonwealth work. QEII’s “people” looked into this idea with Foreign Office and the Foreign was not too “keen” on the idea. Also, South Africa did not want to and would not provide the level of security needed by the Sussexes so the idea died a very quick death.
The South African idea may very well have originated with Baldy but I do very much believe QEII did look into the feasibility of the idea.
This is one lazy FFQ. I don’t think she planned to do anything more than to have an heir and spares. She doesn’t want to work.Kate has been involved in that royal family for 20 years. All she has to show for it are a garden, hold still photobook and a five questions survey- That’s it. Meghan worked for royal family for 18 months and she has a cookbook, did two tours while pregnant, did one tour when Archie was 5 months-old, Smartworks capsule collection, and Vogue cover shoot. Meghan was working circles around Kate and that’s why Meghan had to go at all cost. I truly believed the Queen did like Meghan because of her work ethic but the gray suits have built up William and Kate as the “golden couple” to save the monarch and no one can eclipse them in the eyes of the public. Chuck and Camilla are not that popular especially to the younger generation, so the gray suits wants everyone to anxiously await the reign of William and Kate. The only problem with William and Kate is they are boring and lazy. They have been allowed to skate by on the memory of Diana. William has locked himself into this image of a family man opposite of his father. Kate doesn’t want to overshadowed like Diana, so she plays the role of loving supportive wife and dedicated mother( I truly believe she loves her kids).The only problem is that the RR and senior citizens are the only ones buying what they are selling. William and Kate don’t have fans, they have people who hate Harry and Meghan. That’s why all their projects flop.
For the life of me-I cannot understand the constant bitching about Harry and Meghan who live and work on another continent-Kate so pressed by Meghan she literally keeps living in the past-If you are going to start 2022 off to a new begininng these type of articles suggest you have a mental block to moving on with your life-Kate and William need to move on with their work for the monarchy-not what Harry and Meghan are doing in the USA-A true sign of adulthood is making peace with the past and move forward-rehashing old stories of nearly three years ago shows immaturity and a lack of sound mental progression-I would say something about Kate’s strong interest in Harry but I’ll let sleeping dogs lie-Weirdness is too eerie or unnatural.
It is extremely telling that in order to make Kate look good, these writers/pr people think the best way is to compare her to Meghan. Oh, Kate is so much better. So elegant. So dignified. Never puts a foot wrong. Takes her time. Won’t be pushed into doing something she doesn’t want to do….all so unlike MEGHAN! Really? How about just concentrating on all the wonderful work Kate has done these past ten years? But of course they can’t because Kate has done nothing. It blows my mind the way this woman is coddled. As I have said before, why don’t I get a job and tell my boss that he’ll have to give me at least 10 years for me to find my way, I want to work as little as possible and I won’t do anything unless I’m asked “nicely.” Oh, and if anyone criticizes me, people will rush to my defense and say “Leave the poor girl alone.”
What a joke!
ITA. Kate has lazy written all over her. Even an article about her has to be propped up by something about and against Meghan. A story all about her just won’t stand the test of readership. And Rebecca English knows this that Kate is lazy that’s why she needs Meghan to help her Kate article attract and increase readership. This writer knows who the real power is between the two.
If I read something from the Daily Fail, I automatically take it with a grain of salt. The level of absolute b.s. in that tabloid is staggering. I don’t believe anything written about anything or anyone if it comes from TDF. I’ve applied the same level of utter disbelief about the Archie story being enrolled in a ‘special’ nursery school that encourages kindness (don’t all nursery schools do that) and the Montecito move story. All fabricated clickbait — and anything Meghan & kate related makes for the very best clickbait
I refused to believe Kate and Sophie reached out to Meghan in any way after watching their cattiness at Commonwealth Day Service 2020. Sophie and Kate acted like middle-aged “mean girls”. They couldn’t be nice to Meghan in front of the cameras for one measly hour. I understand why Harry was beyond pissed that day. Btw, who writes about Kate’s birthday milestone and make it ALL about her sister-in-law? Y’all would think it’s Meghan’s birthday Lol.
This was so upsetting to me, I almost didn’t read it. I’m getting to where I don’t want to read the shit they throw at the Sussexes. Because they think they have to throw a protective mantel over the idiots. They just won’t let it go, and especially the crying thing. I notice at the time I am writing, there are 335 comments, so everyone else is upset at this also. I can hardly add to what everyone has so succinctly said. But one thought came to me while I was reading: In my past I went to Al-anon meetings because of my alcoholic family. My sponsor was in AA also, and I heard her using the phrase with someone: you can’t talk your way out of what you acted your way into. I think that applies here. I found myself wishing Celebitchy could submit this article to the Daily Mail, or to the palaces. I wish the Royal Family and the papers knew how utterly stupid and ridiculous we think they and their maneuvers are. I think what upsets me so is that they won’t just embiggen the two royals (just because they are royal, not because they deserve it) it always has to be at the expense of the Sussexes. Now, how many times have they responded? The Sussexes only spoke once on this subject with the Oprah interview, and the Cambridges and retinue CAN’T stop talking about it.