The way too many people think Kim Kardashian “deserves” to be stalked and publicly harassed by her toxic ex is really something. I’ve said this before, but it reminds me so much of the reaction to Kim being robbed at gunpoint in Paris in 2016. Kim was a victim of a crime which left her traumatized and changed, and too many people felt like “she brought it on herself” or “she should have known better” or “she arranged it.” The exact same thing is happening here: people will blame Kim for everything and act like she’s not being harassed and bullied by a toxic douche IN PUBLIC. All of what we’re seeing is in the public sphere. Imagine how much worse it is privately.
Speaking of sh-t happening publicly, on Sunday, Kanye decided to go on some old-school caps-lock rants on Instagram. He “accused” Kim of accusing him of putting a hit on her, which… I absolutely believe Kanye and his friends/associates have threatened Kim. Kim also had his number blocked – which tells me he’s been sending her harassing texts and probably calling her all hours of the night – and he asked his followers for her number.
Ye via Instagram: pic.twitter.com/N5eP5lrwpe
— Photos Of Ye (@PhotosOfKanye) February 6, 2022
"I TAKE MEDICATION MY DAD DIDNT HAVE MONEY OR A PIBLIC VOICE WHEN MY MOM DESTROYED ME AND HIS RELATIONSHIP I DO THIS IS FOR EVERY PARENT ON EITHER SIDE WHO’S KIDS FUTURES ARE BEING ONE SIDEDLY CONTROLLED I DONT EVEN HAVE THE RIGHT TO GET ANGRY AS A FATHER WITHOUT…
— Photos Of Ye (@PhotosOfKanye) February 6, 2022
"BEING CALLED ERATIC I GAVE THAT FAMILY THE CULTURE IF THEY AS A WHOLE UNIT KEEP PLAYING GAMES WITH ME I WILL TAKE THAT CULTURE BACK A FATHER SHOULD NEVER HAVE TO BEG FOR THE LOCATION OF THEIR CHILDREN"
— Photos Of Ye (@PhotosOfKanye) February 6, 2022
“I gave that family the culture…I will take that culture back” – delusional rants. God, I feel sorry for Kim. And why the f–k is anyone giving Kanye her number after she clearly blocked him for harassing her? Jesus. Anyway, Kanye ended up deleting all of this and soon after the deletions, he was seen out and about in LA with all four kids. He took the kids to church, and TMZ claims that Kim wasn’t there and there were no chaperones or anything. Yeah… I bet Kim had some of her security around? I would not have allowed Kanye to have the kids unchaperoned in the state he’s been in this year.
I won’t post this, but Azealia Banks had some thoughts on Kanye and what he’s doing and she’s absolutely right – go here to read.
Photos courtesy of Backgrid.
He’s such a horrible abusive loser. Why is this man allowed to run around threatening Kim and showing instability as a whole and he not be put under conservatorship? This man is unhinged and he needs to help getting it together. I hope that Kim has her security on LOCK.
I see he is back to yelling his tweets again.
Good old KAPSLOCK KANYE 🤣
Kanye has serious mental health issues. But when you add that to the megatons of money he has, it’s a dangerous toxic mix. In the end, Kanye is a man, Kim is a woman. The same misogyny plays out here, never mind the celebrity status they have. Kim needs to take out a restraining order on him. And some way of protecting their kids from his erratic behaviour.
Yes, this. Brittany shaves her head and chases the paparazzi with an umbrella, and she’s put on a decade-long conservatorship. But Kanye can run around the internet and threaten people and send his cousins over to Kim’s house and nothing is done.
I’m not a fan of the Kardashians. I didn’t like their father Robert, when he got OJ off, and to this day I’m still convinced that man had the murder weapon and got rid of it for OJ. But in no way shape or form does Kim deserve any of this abuse.
As for Kanye claiming he takes meds. I seriously doubt that. I’m wondering if he is not bipolar but rather schizophrenic, because a bipolar person on the RIGHT medications does not act this way. (For example, I take my medication everyday and am a fully functioning human who doesn’t threaten anyone on Instagram).
I dont think he is actually claiming to be taking meds, it’s just a confusing tweet break. The full sentence is that kim’s cousin Kara called him and suggested he take meds. “HER OTHER COUSIN KARA CALLED ME SAYING SHE AGREED WITH ME THEN SAID SHE WOULD SPEAK OUT PUBLICLY WHICH SHE NEVER DID THEN SHE SUGGESTED…” (tweet break) “I TAKE MEDICATION”
Exactly this. So many double standards, I honestly do not understand this society. It was ok for Britney, at a very young age, to be super exposed and when things turned against her,it was “mental health issues “, let s restrain her.
With Kanye, “he s creative”, no limits. I find him much more of a threat. And in all honesty, he cannot justify his evilness with “mental health issues”. No one should. If he cared about his kids, that house would have looked like a home, not a museum. It s all about him. I feel bad for Kim, this is abuse.point blank.
True. People want all the Britneyanas of the world hospitalized the minute they spot bare boobage*, see a new sex partner, or hear a mouthy response from them about how they’ve been treated. Yet Kanye is somehow a truth-telling realist being smeared by a woman.
*But they’ll drool over half-naked pics of a male fave.
Who can legally put Kanye in a conservatorship though? The only person who can legally do so rn is probably his dad, who he’s only recently reconnected with and I doubt that will happen. I don’t think his cousins can legally do so as they are not next of kin. Kim is no longer legally able to do so and I doubt she would even want to. Maybe one day when North becomes an adult she can try to give her dad the help he needs by becoming his conservator.
No one is saying Kanye needs to be put in a conservatorship. What people are saying is that there is a double standard between how women are treated when they go through mental health issues while in the public eye, and when men like Kanye go through the same. Kanye is excused for his reprehensible behaviour, and the low key train of thought beneath it is that Kim deserves this treatment bc she’s not a likeable person to a lot of people.
To start conservatorship for psychiatric concerns in the state of California, an individual typically needs to be involuntarily committed to a psychiatric facility under the grounds of being a danger to himself/herself, a danger to others, or unable to provide for his/her basic needs (as defined by food/clothing/shelter) and have no one in their family/social sphere able and willing to assist in meeting the individual’s basic needs. Lots of legal processes in place to protect the loss of rights/ due process for individuals with psychiatric illness. Having money and people willing to “help” an individual meet their basic needs can prevent someone from being considered gravely disabled- even when it’s clear their stability is way tenuous.
There are ways that the State can initiate guardianship proceedings without a family member’s involvement, though it’s a little more complicated.
But, as messy as Kanye is, in no world would a conservatorship make things that much better. It’s not going to stop him; it will just give him another thing to add to his martyr complex.
Some of the comments yesterday were unbelievable.
I was appalled and I’m glad it’s being called out.
Truly, they were.
Same as the comments about Taylor Swift, the the abuse she suffered at his hands & online.
Girl was literally accepting an award, he zoomed in on her & years of abuse ensued.
This is all on Kanye.
Yes, The whole Taylor Swift thing was misogyny and abuse .. and Kim played along with it. The video of the fake naked Taylor was disgusting. And Kim played along. Now she isn’t playing along and he’s going ballistic. They are all enablers until it gets scary. He surrounds himself with YES men
+1
100%
I’m not a Kardashian fan at all. However, this is a situation of abuse. I cannot imagine what he was like behind closed doors. I imagine he is stalking her. I imagine he has people stalking her. I bet she is scared. No one “deserves” this. It’s so gross for anything to think/say that. All cases of abuse are serious and should be taken that way; this one shouldn’t be treated differently.
I agree I bet it’s so much worse than we realize. Kanye is unhinged.
+1000. I feel sorry for Kim and the kids, especially North. Her conservative father is using her as bait for misogynists as part of his abuse and harassment of her mother, and the public is helping him do it. That may be more harmful than future body image issues. Hopefully the oldest kids aren’t fully aware of what’s going on now, even though it will still hurt later.
Man. Do you know how wrong you have to be for me to agree with Azealia Banks? This is a whole mess.
When she’s right, she’s right.
Yep. Absolutely appalling. What does the “she knew this when she married him” contingent have to say about this, hmmm?
Thank you so much for calling this out. We as a society have so much ingrained misogyny and boy it showed up yesterday. No woman deserves to be abused and harassed and any kind of justification of it is gross. Without a doubt there were red flags with this man, but having bleep taste in men is never a justification for abuse. This man is directly threatening his ex wife and the disaster he is becoming is directly affecting 4 children. Unless we call out abuse 100% of the time (even when the victim might not be a “perfect victim” we are perpetuating behaviors that endanger all women. Period
I think some people need to realise that it is almost impossible to assess a situation fairly when someone they dislike is involved. This is why I rarely read Kardashian-Jenner stories and, even more rarely, leave any comment. What Kanye is doing is abusive. No one deserves that. It’s better to scroll on than to leave a victim-blaming comment for others to see.
Thank you!
Some of these so called progressive women here hate Kim so much, they’re cheering on her ex-husband’s public abuse campaign. If he laid hands on her, they’d be tripping over themselves to justify it.
This is disgusting.
Yes this!!!
I feel so damn sorry for Kim. NO ONE deserves this. NO ONE deserves to be harassed or attacked or threatened or abused. Nothing she’s done in her past makes this her fault or makes her deserve this. I’m not blind to her faults or her family’s faults, but she should be able to go through a divorce without being abused or harassed.
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but…
#TeamKim and #TeamKids.
Also… ‘Ye bringing Donda into this and criticizing her…*phew* He is not well.
Ye’s insulting of Donda shocked me and let me know he is in real trouble, mentally. There is something going on with him and it’s bad. I hope Kim ups her security for herself and her kids. He seems unhinged.
That was it for me too, he’s even badmouthing Donda, which even the most casual Kanye observer knows is not the status quo. It’s actually the polar opposite.
Kim needs to get the courts to require Kanye’s visits with the kids are supervised. He is extremely dangerous.
I think that as well. Why hasn’t she petitioned the courts to set up visitation and to have Kanye comply? Not that he would but it would be prudent on her part. The amount of supporters on Kanye’s side is disturbing, to say the least. Many of whom are claiming that Kris has never met an opponent like Kayne and that she will be sorry to go against Kayne, as he is a power not to be messed with. Kanye needs serious intervention.
Post separation abuse smh.
If he was doing this to anyone but a Kardashian there would be absolutely much more uproar over his behaviour, how people are excusing this just cause they don’t like the victim is mind-boggling. I dread to think what he is doing to her behind the scenes, if this is what he is doing publicly
She needs to file for full custody stat.
I was thinking the same thing. I would assume she has. It sounds like (since she blocked his number) that she will only speak through lawyers. So hopefully she has started things moving to protect the kids.
I cannot imagine how long this custody case will go on for. Maybe it’ll be quick but if he has already gone through 3 lawyers, I can’t imagine that it will.
Yes, absolutely. And all visitations should be supervised, similar to the arrangement after Brangelina’s divorce.
Totally agree. Keep those kids close, Kim.
In that picture in the thumbnail, Kanye looks absolutely demonic. I would be afraid of him.
This is textbook domestic abuse that ramps up when the relationship ends. I would NEVER leave the children alone with a man like that. Unfortunately most women do not have a choice and have to give their kids to the people abusing them. There is a real danger here based on know patterns and statistics.
He’s pretty terrifying at this point, and I don’t think I’d put anything past him. His people should be looking into having him committed before he hurts someone, including himself.
What’s with the person that gave him Kim’s new phone number?!!
He keeps this up and he’s going to get a formal communication agreement where he has to use some type of app to coordinate with Kim and that only. Likewise some type of formal visitation that obliges him to stick to a schedule and various locations with no deviation. Kim’s been OK with the informal stuff b/c it suits her but I can’t see that lasting much longer.
Everyone likes to blame this on his mental illness but plenty of people struggle with bipolar and otherwise and don’t do this shit. He’s an asshole, period.
My brother has bipolar disorder.& doesn’t do this crap.
I’m bipolar, a pretty severe case of it. and I don’t do anything like he is.
Also, isn’t Ye notorious for not taking his meds? You don’t get to not take your meds and then use your illness as an excuse.
Thank you! Having bipolar disorder and being an awful person are two different things. You can be one without the other. Conversely, you can have both.
A lot of personality disorders like borderline PD and narcissistic PD are misdiagnosed as other things for a long time: bipolar, depression, anxiety, OCD, ADD, anger issues, because doctors are identifying the symptoms like mood swings, mania, rage, and obsession with their victims. Maybe Kanye does have bipolar but I would bet money that he has an underlying personality disorder as well.
Amy is completely right. excuse me for being an armchair psychologist but there is no way Kanye is not a full blown narc
He’s an abusive asshole. You’re right. This is independent of his mental illness.
The comments here yesterday were appalling. The way some people believe she deserved it, justified it because “she knew who he was”.
Women are damned if they do and damned if they don’t here, apparently.
the really depressing part is that with a majority female demographic on this site, it’s women that are doing the condemning. i pray not a single person who said Kim “deserves it” ends up in an abusive relationship themself…
I have a family member who’s bipolar and except for his episodes of mania, my inner armchair psychologist suspects borderline personality disorder. A friend recently lost her boyfriend to it and one of the issues was his obsessiveness over her and feeling abandoned even if she went to visit family, therefore trying to manipulate her and hurt her for how he felt. It was pretty scary and I see lots of parallels.
If someone’s hatred of a woman who doesn’t even know they exist is so strong that they can’t resist the urge to blame her for her ex-husband’s abuse, or can’t resist turning his abuse of her and a little girl into a chance to demonize her, they’re part of the problem. It’s time to take a break from the obsessive hate-following (or maybe completely stop altogether?! 😲😰) and find a less toxic pursuit.
Those folks are noticeably silent today…
It’s clear this is an escalating and unsafe situation for everyone involved. I hope some peace is coming soon for their kids.
Noticeably silent, although I did see one pop up on the Julia Fox article.
They sure are. After showing their asses yesterday, I hope they’re ashamed today.
Nope. Nothing justifies abuse in any form. This is all on Kanye for being a train wreck of a human being. Kim deserves none of this. No one does.
At the same time though, I will never understand why women choose men whose disasters are all publicly well established. Are they themselves so narcissistic they believe the are the ‘magical woman who will suddenly make a bad man good’. And then are “shocked pikachu face” when they realize nope, they are not that special.
If there is one romantic trope I would love to get rid of, this would be one of the top. I feel like it causes so much anguish in the love lives of women (and men) who are brainwashed into thinking this is actual love. As if the abuser isn’t already toxic and powerful enough to make it so hard to leave, these tropes just add to their psychological power.
Hi Goofpuff thank you for your musings on women like Kim and myself. Allow me to clear things up for you. No we do not think we are magic women that can save a man and no there was no pikachu face of surprise in finally coming to terms with decades of gaslighting and abuse. How dare you. How dare you suggest that we are people who thought too highly of ourselves and then were deservedly put in our place. We are as heterogenous a group as can be because WE ARE NOT THE CAUSE OF THE PHENOMENA. Of domestic abuse. We are the victims. Educate yourself. The psychological processes are extremely complex and require much more to comprehend than your five seconds of snarky schadenfreude. These people can be wonderfull partners for years before they turn and change. That’s what is so traumatizing about it. And that attitude of yours, the I would never be that dumb attitude, it’s dangerous. To yourself and others. Because youre assuming you would spot it. That you’re better. That you’re some magic person, who would never be fooled or fall in love like that. And what that implies is that the rest of us are idiots. And its just another shade of victim blaming.
@Godiva: Yes. This ^
@Godvia – thank you and I’m sorry for your experience
@Goodpuff – I hope you never get to experience what others and I have experienced
Goofpuff, look up “lovebombing.”
And I all this about desperately wanting to see his kids…. Do people forget about the months that he chose to live in another state for months of end. You can’t pick and choose when you want to be a parent. He disgusts me. I think (and maybe I’m wrong) that Kim has been a married single parent since their first was born.
he doesn’t actually care about the kids. the whole “not seeing the kids” thing is about control and manipulation, pure and simple. and also self image.
This is veeeery typical narcissistic behavior after a breakup. People who previously had shown no interest in their kids suddenly are concerned about EVERYTHING about them.
It’s not about the kids, it’s about controlling the ex partner using the only mechanism they have: the kids.
I agree, it’s about control and trying to get back in her life, not about the kids.
I can’t stand Kim or her family, but this is a serious situation and I hope things get better for her.
Sounds like a case of he wants what he can’t have.
Kanye is totally the guy who shows up at 2am demanding to see his kids, and when the mom rightfully turns him away, he whines that she’s keeping him away from his kids.
That “weather / or” .
Just imagine for one second trying to co-parent with this guy. How awful. All this crap he’s putting out there is just terrible and is that really her cousin contacting him? Shameful. She cannot trust anyone really. I’m not sure who in her own close family she could really trust, because her mom, as we all know is a sell-out. She must be in a very lonely place and I do feel sorry for her (and the kids, of course!).
He makes me grateful for my ex-husband – a real father who has consistently put the best interests of our children ahead of his wants and ahead of any lingering anger at me. Thank you Mr. Ex-Gabby.
How is Julia Fox not watching this in horror and running for her life?
i get the feeling she is smart enough to know exactly what Kanye is like and she’s deciding to play the game anyway
The least believable part of his unhinged rant is that anyone, anywhere, would *ask* for Yeezys.
Plenty of people would ask for yeezys. People like them and they have a great resell value.
Also that Kara person is Kim’s cousin, they went with her on their first trip to Armenia. She clearly has chosen sides.
Why those creepy-looking contacts? Ugh. Kim needs a cease and desist letter from her lawyer. Stat.
I think her statement yesterday was well timed and well said. She is probably getting first rate legal advice while he rants and tweets threats. He will just end up putting his foot in his mouth.
Does anyone know the conditions of their settlement? I thought it was interesting how Kim worded that she was the primary caretaker. Does she maybe already have sole custody and he is only allowed to visit? Does TikTok require approval from both parents? And if she has sole custody will she be able to make all those decisions herself?
Team Kim is treading very carefully and I think they are definitely headed to court. That statement was very carefully worded and it was probably delivered directly to Ye’s legal team in addition to other points.
I don’t know, of course, but given his behavior and her statements, I would guess that his Yeeziness is refusing to cooperate with the legal process at all. It may be one of the reasons he is lashing out, his team is telling him he has to do this filing or these forms and what he can / cant feasibly ask for, and he doesn’t like the idea of having to “lower himself” to going through the actual paperwork and negotiation part of divorce.
I think she does have full custody already and that she’s trying to keep him involved in the children’s lives. He is trying to take her down because he can’t control her anymore. He needs to take his prescribed meds, stop self medicating, and get off social media. This won’t end well.
I totally agree.
Kim is nothing if not calculated. She’s definitely treading carefully and keeping her lawyers close.
I’m *not* a Kardashian fan but between the two of them, it’s obvious she’s much smarter than he is. I think his parental rights might be toast.
Good lord, and the comments defending Kanye under those tweets? Terrifying.
Kanye is the “If I can’t have her no one can” sort of man that terrifies me.
Poor Kim. Not a fan of hers but NO ONE deserves to be treated like she is being treated by that psycho.
and DAMN Azealia Banks went FULL OUT dragging him! honestly I love that she called out Julia whatshername’s “horrible cool sculpting”. hahahaha!
That statement was pure gold. Say what you will about AB, but when she is wrong she is dead on wrong, and when she is right, she is dead on right.
@WHATWHAT I had to go read that post when u mentioned cool sculpting!! Making me think twice about getting some this spring 🤔😂
He is basically emotionally abusing Kim on a public stage and it’s terrifying. I’m not a Kim fan but I’m very sorry she’s going through this.
I don’t even like the Kardashians but facts are facts. Kanye left his wife and kids and moved out of state while he had sex with groupies and probably did the same things he’s doing now.
Narcissists always get abusive when they start losing control and Kim is moving on.
Exactly.
What Azealia said.
No one deserves this. One thing you can say about the Kardashians is they’re great at continuing relationships with exes and co-parenting.
However, weren’t his mental issues in play before she married him? It seemed like they were both taking advantage of each other. Unfortunately you can’t control someone else’s mental health.
I feel for the kids.
None of us on this site knows what’s really going on in their private and personal lives. I do object to the idea that everything Kim says is true and everything Kanye says is false. He may be bipolar and not taking his medication it doesn’t mean that some of the things he says and feels are not true. She may be a gold digger, a grifter and a real pain in the behind but it doesn’t mean that the things that she says aren’t true. Maybe we should all just take a step back and stop looking for a perfect assailant and or a perfect victim. Kim and Kanye have both done stupid ridiculous clout chasing things. Let’s all just pray for their children.
The comments yesterday were gross.
Also the whole she knew who he was, well same thing can be said for her. He didn’t get hoodwinked into marrying a kardashian. He knew who she was when he married her and still went ahead and had 4 kids with a woman whose entire life is a tv show.
And the irony of him being concerned about north on tik tok while putting her and her siblings on blast on Instagram and in his song lyrics is so glaring that people have to be idiots to think this is out of concern for his kids.
Also note how he twists KKs words, she says main caregiver he then responds with what do you mean main provider?
And don’t get me started on him weaponising his kids blackness against their white mother while dating another white woman. His slavery is a choice, black women dissing, ancestor maligning, MAGA hat wearing ass needs to stop invoking blackness whenever it serves his agenda.
To be fair, Kim did write specifically “As the parent who is the main provider and caregiver … “ referring to herself. At the time I thought it was odd and wondered if Kanye stopped child support payments or something? Like what is that a reference to?
Same difference. He emitted caregiver because he knows that no one believes he actually actively does any heavy day to day lifting in the raising of those kids bar contributing financially? Like I said he’s twisting her words and meaning.
Kanye may not have started child support payments. That is part of what gets hammered out in the divorce. I suspect he hasn’t sent her one thin dime since she filed.
Kanye has biracial kids. He didn’t want black kids. Why he’s trying to use black people to mule for him as he abuses his ex wife is beyond me.
OMG Kanye has lost the plot.
I am not a fan of either one of them but it is clear that Kanye is going to lose all parental rights.
I think this is less about mental illness- and more about being an abusive, weak, uneducated douchebag.
The non-support of Kim has nothing to do with her being vapid, narcissistic, self-centered, or any of her other negative traits. The non-support comes DIRECTLY from how Kim stood shoulder to shoulder with Kanye egging on and encouraging his toxic, terrifying, stallker-like, and bizarre behavior towards other women. Going beyond enabling it or cheering it on – happily and gleefully participating in it herself. When it advanced HER own agenda. She used him as her attack dog towards other women over and over again. Now that the attack dog turned on her, we’re all supposed to boo-hoo? Count me out. It goes beyond her knowing or not knowing what he’s capable of. She USED what he’s capable of, against other women, over and over.
Cerina it’s not about what she did while she was with him into people sympathizing with her but Kanye is a pathetic man and most people are commenting on him like he didn’t do wrong like u just accused Kim of!
Enabling will bite you but that doesn’t mean she isn’t right.
@ Cerina… What Kanye is doing is abusive & no one deserves that..NO ONE. It’s appalling to even suggest she does.
….. When exactly, and to whom, did Kim do this, other than Taylor Swift? The only thing I’m aware of was his 30 showers comment about Amber Rose, and I don’t remember Kim ever piling on. What I remember was Khloe sounding off and Kim inviting Amber to her house and apologizing for the incident.
Regardless of what Kim did, THIS is not appropriate retribution or punishment for her actions. This eye-for-an-eye sh-t ain’t it. People are rubbing their hands gleefully abt this schadenfreude out of spite and some weird need to enact vengeance on this woman and nothing else, and that is absolutely going too far, not to mention, it doesn’t even hold her accountable for her previous behaviour in any meaningful way. It doesn’t help any of the women who suffered those actions from her in any meaningful way either, to promote and stand by silently as an abusive man abuses another woman without any consequence.
Do you think you’re sticking up for women like Amber Rose or Taylor Swift, by saying this stuff? By silently encouraging the SAME MAN WHO ABUSED THEM to abuse yet another woman? You’re still encouraging abuse. It doesn’t matter who you think deserves it or who it’s targeted toward. You can’t actually pick and choose who reprehensible people target their reprehensible behaviour towards. It’s all abuse. It’s all harmful. It’s all detrimental and purely punitive, and in no way does it achieve anything for the actual women who Kanye has hurt. You’re making the world a more harmful place by condoning this sh-t.
If you want to hold Kim actually accountable for her actual actions, there are plenty of other ways to do that in a manner that would legitimately ACHIEVE something. Anything else is just a revenge fantasy from people who are too short-sighted to understand the harm they’re doing to society.
Brad Spitt 2.0
Only Pitt was gutless and did his via his lawyers and PR people
Oh, okay, because you know all THOSE facts too, and this entirely unrelated story is just another opportunity to sink your ignorant boot in. PLEASE. Lay off with the speculation and attack-dog mentality. WTF do you KNOW?! Zero.
Kanye is being extremely horrible. I can’t believe it but I actually feel so sorry and crushed for Kim. Not to mention the kids. If Kanye did care about the kids’ well-being, he would never be having highly acrimonious public tantrums about minor stuff like this.
Azalea or whatever Banks just will not stop slut-shaming and displaying her homophobia so honestly no thanks.
ESH (except the kids)
He’s a Trump supporter, absentee father, and malignant narcissist. He’s also not wrong when he says this: “they play like that with black men’s lives.” Quickly pointing out here that I am not, have not, and would not say his behavior is even remotely acceptable or that Kim deserves to be abused by a narcissist. This is an indictment of the entire K-J clan. It’s a shame that Kanye lacks the emotional stability and maturity to address this issue in an appropriate manner and forum because even in his rage he is making one valid point.
Bull. Kanye is an abusive ass & a gaslighter. If I recall correctly you agreed with a few of the she knew who she married comments yesterday.
Actually, I didn’t express agreement with any particular comment, but I did point out that there are nuances here, and there are. It’s also gaslighting to accuse every person who doesn’t feel this is a completely binary situation of victim blaming. I will fully admit that I don’t like Kim. She’s not a feminist or an ally to women at all. But I don’t wish for her to be abused and tormented. Like many women here, I’ve been on the receiving end of a narcissist’s rage and I don’t wish it on anyone. I just don’t understand why we can’t discuss the nuances here without being pushed into one corner or the other. @Purplehaze, do you or do you not believe that the Kardashians have been involved in acts of cultural appropriation? Is it not possible that he has one shred of a good point? He’s a Trump supporter, so clearly he’s no advocate for dismantling systemic oppression, but he made a valid point.
@Bettyrose, I just don’t see how Kim played with anyone but maybe Kris Humphries? Lamar Odom comes to mind with the family as a whole but that was more Khloe & Kris. I think Kim had shown remarkable restraint towards Kanye. I cannot stand abusive men.
Meh, like I said before he’s using what the black community feel about the fam as leverage to gain sympathy. He’s not for the black community, he’s for himself. He’s invokes blackness when he’s in trouble like certain other celebrity men who believe they have transcended race due to their wealth.
He’s really skilled at manipulating and those who are naive or still stan this asshole will believe his BS. As for Kim she is walking advertising board, PR savvy and a vapid narcissist but bar that humpries guy I don’t see how she treated black men especially bad. Reggie bush? Ray? And wasn’t her first marriage to someone who physically abused her?
In actual fact the evidence is that Kanye treated her like trash with constant melt downs and humiliation , now his angle since she don’t want him back is to demonize her to the public and play the “black man trapped card “. Give me a break he’s not comparable to someone like Lamar, Kanye is the biggest control freak out there and did as he wanted during that marriage including living in different countries, and states for the vast majority of the marriage and cheating with a number of women.
Thanks, Pilar. I agree with everything you’ve said. (I believe the comment was directed at the entire family, but I appreciate your point that he’s using it in a completely self-serving manor).
@pilar 1000000000000000000%
There is zero evidence of Kim “playing like that with black men’s lives.” People always want to pile on the family because of the outcomes of various exes but bottom line the closest they can get to it is Lamar Odom and the only one playing in that situation was Khloe.
Kanye “slavery was a choice” West, after doing his MAGA performance art, is now out here trying to get validity to his trash views by making it a race issue, and it is just insincere garbage.
agreed
With all due respect, if we’re actually going to talk about nuance, then we’d need to talk about why Kanye, as a black man, made a choice (and it was a choice!) to be with a woman who was not black, from a family whom he knew for a fact were exploiting black people and black culture to gain fame. We’d have to talk about why Kanye stumped for Kim so vehemently, at the direct expense and detriment of OTHER black WOMEN in particular.
Kanye made his choices just as much as Kim did. Where is the discussion of that? It took two to tango, two people to have those babies, two people to have the relationship that they did. We’d have to talk about why and how Kanye viewed Kim–how he saw her, a non-black woman who commodifies black culture, as a status symbol and an upgrade for himself, from other black women. How he wanted a woman who was black without actually being black. We’d have to talk about how black men of Kanye’s ilk see the idea of getting into a relationship with a non-black woman as a sign that they’ve “made it.”
Why are we only talking about the choices that Kim Kardashian made? Why are we only talking about how the Kardashians exploit and objectify black men? Kanye wasn’t kidnapped and forced to marry Kim. Anyone can use the precise words that people are using against Kim towards him as well–the fact that the Kardashians were fetishists and exploitative of black men was not a secret. Kanye knew what he was getting into. He knew, “they play like that with black men’s lives,” but he married Kim and had 4 children with her anyway. He made plenty of money off her image, body, and business sense.
When he married her, the Kardashians were a reality TV joke, and he was the one with the real, serious clout in the industry. To act like it was the Kardashians who “played with his life”, as if he didn’t have a single solitary say in this matter, is beyond ludicrous. The fact that this discussion is ONLY COMING UP NOW, when Kanye is firing away with all guns at Kim, who is not very well-liked in these parts, is DEEPLY telling.
So no, it’s not possible that Kanye is out here with a single nugget of a good point. He has no credibility any more to even make that point. A man who says something as profoundly idiotic as “slavery was a choice” for black people, but refuses to take culpability for his own choices in his life or his relationship by saying, “I got trapped by these jezebel exploiters (who I was warned about repeatedly time and time again by other people)!!!!!” is not saying anything of value, or worth listening to. He is a lousy hypocrite who says whatever he thinks will best serve him and his own advancement.
A – those are all good points, but it isn’t true that we’re only now discussing cultural appropriation from the Kardashians. That’s been a topic on this site for years, pre dating Kanye’s involvement with Kim. As for the rest, yes, it’s true that Kanye entered into ITV as ok knowing who Kim is. But as far as the identity politics of famous black man marrying a woman who isn’t black, I personally wouldn’t feel right commenting. I would definitely read that analysis though.
1 million % this.
No one deserves this full stop. I cannot stand the whole Kardashian clan but no one should have to tolerate this shit . Lawyers do your thing. She needs protection.
Piblic? Reminds me of old man Trump yelling in all caps and spelling things wrong and not bothering with editing before sending. Just ranting and sending.
He is not even smooth in his DARVO attempts. I used to not much like Kim or the whole fam but I’m developing a soft spot for her now. She hasn’t done anything to warrant this. Only thing I agree w Ye on: kids shouldn’t be on social media that young even w supervision.
I am amazed at how many people start or end their comments with: “I don’t like Kim but…”.
I’ve heard some people describing what he’s experiencing as a “psychotic break”, i.e. the divorce made him snap into a psychotic episode, but this has been going on for a long time. Psychosis can take the form of hallucinations, delusions, disordered thinking, and disturbances in behavior, and people don’t snap into psychosis, they slide. And they can slide in-and-out, back-and-forth. People can and do recover with proper therapy and medication, sometimes temporarily and sometimes permanently. But a psychotic “break” is not a Humpty-Dumpty situation, people do get put back together again but they have to make a determined effort to do so. Kanye is doing the absolute worst thing he can by threatening Kim, and this will ensure that unless he gets back on meds and therapy he’s a danger to her and a menace to their kids, and he will lose all but minimal, supervised contact with them.
I can’t see him believing that he needs meds with how narcissistic he is. He thinks he should be in charge of everything, but also that everyone is against him. He’s even turned against his late mother. This situation and how he keeps making it worse looks hopeless to me, I can’t imagine how it will play out unless he’s completely unable to function, perform, produce anything and all of his enablers quit. Now he has a new one at his side to tell him what a genius he is.
I think his mom’s death made him snap and he’s just gotten worse ever since.
God he is awful. I knew the divorce wouldn’t be pleasant but this is awful. And some idiot is still dating him! How can any woman with any respect stand by this? The clothes aren’t even that good. Yes the Kardashians are toxic AF and have been known to turn toxic to their exes but Kanye is nuclear. I feel bad for the kids!
I’ve said this for many years already, and I’ve had several people get quite angry with me for saying it: Kanye has a narcissistic personality disorder. It is so evident. Down to the small details of his actions, behavior and words.
It has never been a shred of doubt in my mind, and I’ve been waiting for the time where he feels humiliated and starts lashing out. And here we go. The Pete Davidson-situation really hurt Kanye’s ego and now he’s in a rage. A narcissist is not going to let this go, without “winning” the battle of Ego’s. This is not about his kids or his love for anyone, this is about him saving face and publicly being told “no” (by Kim). Which is something I’m pretty sure he’s not used to, as it seems he’s always been sorrounded by voltures and people exusing his abusive and manipulative behavior as being some kind of genius. The worst thing for a narcissist is to lose face and adoration.
The best advice Kim should be receiving at this point is to N E V E R talk to him again. And to let him rant and show who he really is.
That being said, I also think his fragility was being taken advantage of. They both seem like people who use other people as means to get ahead.
I feel for their children. Having a narcissistic parent is very detrimental to their emotional stability, sense of safety and self asteem. No matter how loving the other parent is, the narcissistic one does great damage.
Oria you have nailed it 💯. He is narcissistic and dangerous. I worry for the kids too.
Truth! I grew up with a 6 years older sister who had NPD and I’m very familiar with the symptoms as I was her favourite punching bag. Kanye is exhibiting ALL of the symptoms, plus some psychotic issues to boot. People suffering from NPD are dangerous — dangerous to others around them and to themselves. It took me a LONG time to recover from the damage I suffered from her never-ending tantrums, tirades, lies and abuse. Sooner or later he’ll try to turn his kids into his “negative advocates” against Kim so the sooner she gets a restraining order and forbids ANY contact with him until he gets appropriate therapy and meds the better. (Somehow I doubt he’ll capitulate and NPD is basically incurable, it can be mitigated and managed to a certain extent but that’s the best anyone can expect). Letting him have access to 4 young children is like giving a pyromaniac matches and a can of gasoline.
Too bad she had 4 kids with him and thus will always have to talk to him 🙁
Restraining order coming in 3…2…1…
Kim has too much money to be dealing with this. She’s getting her restraining order – he has publicly proven that he is an abusive stalker. What a mess. Now she’ll need to get someone to transfer the kids over to him for co-parenting – it makes things so much more complicated. I cant believe she’s put up with this for so many years. Power couple my a–. Those poor kids.
In his efforts to have the last word no matter what, Kanye is becoming more and more unhinged publicly. He’s giving lawyers and PR people plenty to work with against him. He needs a restraining order slapped against him, scheduled and supervised visitation ONLY and court mandated therapy.
It can be done. During my divorce and child custody hearings, my lawyer asked for and the judge ordered my ex to undergo a psych eval and therapy (his lawyer then turned around and asked the same for me). I did mine. He has never done his. So guess who hasn’t seen Kiddo in over 20 years
This is not about his seeing the kids , he’s raging because Kim left AND moved on. Remember when Kim’s team seemed to be responsible for those articles saying so many people ( none named) were pursuing her? No Kanye rage then. As soon as the media started amping the current relationship, he unleashed his ego . I would have security to the nth degree and petition to ensure the kids had supervision on any visits.
This type of rage is aimed at Kim. No one signs up for verbal abuse, threats or stalking.
You’re right. *No one* signs up for this abuse. But I truly believe that he will use the kids to torment her. That was his transparent excuse for moving across the street. Because he is the father and (as far as we know) there’s not a court locked down custody and visitation arrangement, he can torment Kim through the kids. he can lash out like this “for the kids.” He will use whatever leverage he can find to continue his threats and abuse. I believe this because this almost happened to me.
Why do people seriously think this man is some kind of genius? We’ve been subjected to his mental illness for years and he doesn’t seem to want to get any real help for it. His music sucks, he has incredibly poor judgment, and he’s barely emotionally stable enough to be functioning in reality. This guy is a loser all around, and there are still people out there trying to put him on some kind of a pedestal.
Kanye is abusive. And his poor innocent children will suffer for it. And so will Kim. But where was Kim when Kanye was abusing people in the past. She remained silent.
That Azelia Banks post is fing brilliant. WOW WOW WOW. She is sooo problematic but boy do I adore her ability to call stuff like it is.