I’ve spent much of the past year trying to forget the terrifying moments of late 2020 and January 2021. There were several moments where it absolutely felt like America was just one phone call or one tweet away from collapsing. Even what we knew at the time, even what we saw at the time was terrifying and it still makes my blood run cold. Terrorists truly took control of the Capitol and were looking to assassinate Speaker Pelosi and Mike Pence. The only thing that stopped a mass slaughter of congressmen and senators was a makeshift barricade and, like, two cops. The January 6th Committee’s hearings are really showing the world just how close America came to collapsing.
Another bonkers moment? Election Night 2020, when Donald Trump waddled out and started saying crazy sh-t live on camera, to the point where several news networks simply cut their feeds of his speech because what he was saying was so f–king bonkers. Now the Jan. 6th committee has more information on what happened behind the scenes in the White House, and what led to Trump doing that on Election Night. Hint: Rudy Giuliani was drunk AF and he convinced Trump to declare victory.
According to testimonies that aired during a House hearing Monday from those in former President Donald Trump’s inner circle, it was an “intoxicated” Rudy Giuliani who convinced the former president to declare victory on election night, despite the fact that vote-counting remained ongoing.
The second day of public hearings by the U.S. House committee investigating the riots of Jan. 6, 2021, offered new revelations about how the former president responded to losing the 2020 presidential election. Among them, that Trump’s campaign staffers “urged him to await the counting of votes and not to declare victory on election night,” but he instead followed the advice of “an apparently inebriated Rudy Giuliani to just claim he won and insist the vote-counting stop,” Rep. Liz Cheney explained.
On Monday, the committee aired pre-recorded testimony from several of those in Trump’s inner circle — including daughter Ivanka Trump, attorney Rudy Giuliani, campaign manager Bill Stepien, and campaign spokesperson Jason Miller. The testimony painted a picture of what election night 2020 was like inside the White House — Trump, Ivanka explained, was holed up in a “room off of the residence” when results started to pour in.
As it became clear that Trump had lost several states that would have been crucial to victory — including Arizona — the excited anticipation of the evening turned to “disappointment with Fox and concern that maybe our data or our numbers weren’t accurate,” Miller described. The group — which was gathered in the White House well past midnight, to the early morning hours of Nov. 4, 2020 — began to craft a message: that it was still too early to know who had won the election.
“I don’t know that I had a firm vote of what he should say,” Ivanka testified. “The results were still being counted. It was becoming clear that the race would not be called on election night.” Stepien concurred, saying in his testimony that he wanted the campaign message to be: “It’s too early to call the race … but we are proud of the race we ran and we think we’re in good position and we’ll have more to say about this the next day, or the next day.”
But not everyone was in agreement. “I remember saying that … we should not go and declare victory until we had a better sense of the numbers,” Miller said, adding: “I think effectively, Mayor Giuliani was saying, ‘We won. They’re stealing it from us … we need to go say that we won.’ ”
According to their testimony, Giuliani was looking to talk to the president to detail his plan — and he had allegedly been drinking. “The mayor was definitely intoxicated but I did not know his level of intoxication when he spoke with the president,” Miller said, adding that “there were suggestions … by Mayor Giuliani to go ahead and declare victory [that night].”
In his own testimony, which also aired Monday, Giuliani said he did speak to Trump that night, more than once. In remarks delivered that night, Trump did exactly that, saying, “This is a fraud on the American public. This is an embarrassment to our country. We were getting ready to win this election. Frankly, we did win this election.”
I’m chilled just remembering it now. It was seriously one of the most insane moments, for a sitting president, standing in the White House, to deny reality simply because he didn’t like the results. Trump did all of this because he was too weak to admit that he lost. He tried to have elected officials murdered – including his own VP – because he just couldn’t handle defeat.
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They all belong in jail. Just terrible.
Yes, they do belong in jail. They absolutely betrayed the US and it galls me that there might not be consequences to their actions!
Of course he did, but it was inevitable that he did that anyway. That statement was the official start of the treasonous attempt to overthrow the government. Worst president in U.S. history (and he’s not finished trying to destroy our democracy). Too bad he will never get the justice he so rightly deserves.
Yeah, the human body can’t accommodate the number of suppurating hemorrhoids he deserves …
ETA: Which “he”? Just pick one, any and all of them.
Some members of my family actually voted for Trump and I spent years trying to talk to my relatives to try and find out how they could possibly do this. I cannot reach them. A couple of them have actually been shocked by these proceedings, but most of them are still walking about as they were. And I have no confidence, unfortunately, that those 2 will remain shocked. How do you reach your relatives who believe in an alternate reality??!
Back in 2015, my dad was a Fox-watching Trump supporter. It took me 18 looooong months to “deprogram” him. I started by taking all Faux channels out of the DVR channel lineup, started watching news *with* him on CNN and MSNBC, and talked, talked, talked… showed him articles in the papers (print/online)….and didn’t let up. He did not like Hilary, but by the time I was “done” with him, he *did* vote for her lol
Look, you probably will not EVER be able to “reach” the hardcore. They’re sadly lost. But work on the ones wavering. Just keep talking. Show proof of lies. Do what you can, as long as you can/want to. It’s all you can do. Just know when to give up, for your own sanity!
You’re a good person.
That’s very interesting how things worked out with your father. From what I’ve read, presenting facts to people who want to believe otherwise has no bearing on them. They believe what they want to believe, and that’s it. They’ll claim whatever facts you’ve presented to them to be negated by these other ‘facts’ they’ve found.
Way to go Jan! My mom was a news + PBS junkie and a Bernie supporter. She was also an early “anybody but Trump” person. We knew he would be horrible from the jump, we just didn’t know it would have such a high death rate.
This guy is so corrupt that he makes Nixon and GW Bush look like boy scouts. Seriously, Nixon is a paragon of virtue compared to this wannabe dictator. And it feels lousy saying that.
You have done a public service.
I’m actually glad to hear any of those that voted for Trump are shocked by the proceedings. That gives me hope.
Giuliani’s son is trying to run for governor of NY under the Republican ticket but he can’t even attend the debates because he is not vaccinated stating he is “immuned to Covid”. The coconut has not fallen far from the tree.
Guiliani’s son looks like the forgotten Trump spawn. As in forgotten in the sun too long and melted into a mottled racist nepotism skin sack of sins.
The hearings are riveting. And horrifying. What we knew and suspected from what was happening in plain sight, as alarming as it was, was merely the tip of the iceberg. My god. The committee members are so credible and effective, I wish the demographic they NEED to reach were watching and listening.
Well, at least Fox is showing the hearing now.
Some of the people testifying are actually from FOX and it was surreal hearing them, knowing that FOX wasn’t running coverage.
In those dark days when trump was president, every time an EBS test would air, my heart would start racing, always thinking trump started a conflict or war. I hope trump goes to jail. Rudy too.
OMG SAME HERE! I’ll never forget, one came on, at the time there was tension with No. Korea, when there was talk of nuclear bombs… I was driving, and had switched stations, and the beep came on loud. I gasped, and started shaking; I had to pull over. When I could, I drove fast to my friend’s house and asked if she heard it. She did and she was shaken, too, as she had just turned on her TV and it came on.
Honestly… I shudder to think back on those times. And God FORBID this doesn’t come with indictments and jail time for those ^&%$#! , we will be in for a repeat in the not too distant future.
Not that other places in the world are immune, but my sister and I are applying for an EU passport (under my dad/family home country). Figure it couldn’t hurt to have a bolthole in another country (esp. with Antisemitism on the rise here).
I can’t help wondering if some of these people are only publicly going against Trump now because they kinda already got what the wanted out of his presidency (control of the Supreme Court) and the aftermath of his loss (multiple states doing their damnedest to actively prevent free and fair elections). It’s almost inevitable that Trump will increasingly be seen as a liability because his delusions are too outrageous. Most Republicans would prefer to lie, steal, and cheat quietly. With depressingly few exceptions, they’re not actually angry or disappointed that Trump instigated a putsch, only that it failed.
I agree with this. That’s why I side eye folks like The Lincoln Project, Liz Cheney and Michael Steele. They may tut-tut about Trump but not necessarily about the policies. They won’t back meaningful gun control or protect voting rights. I’m sure they want to put all the blame on Trump but I hope the Democrats don’t let them get away with it.
All of these people testifying are despicable. They enabled Trump and only now are they admitting the truth. All cowards. Lock em up
The amount of self-satisfied smug coming off Barr, and the contemptible arrogance off Doll-Boy make me want to reach into my TV and smack them into the outer universe. UGGHH!!! THEY NEED TO BE IN JAIL!
Yes! So darn arrogant 😠
Trump is the only one responsible for what Trump said and did. They’re trying to throw anyone they can under the bus to make Trump look less guilty. They can’t have it both ways – Trump can’t both be the greatest business and political mind in American history, deserving to be President for Life, and also so volatile, so gullible, and so petulant that an incoherent drunkard can convince him in a few ramblings to attempt to overthrow the democratic process. Not that logic like that will work with his worshippers.
Just bonkers.
I watched the MSNBC “round table” last night where Rachel Maddow, Chris Hayes, Joy Reid and Lawrence O’Donnell went through all of this for an hour or two. Then when it came time for O’Donnell to do his solo show, he started off by calling it “Drunk History.”
I don’t know what’s going to happen. I only know that if someone currently protecting the ex POTUS were to accidentally poison his food, that person would be doing the country and the world a huge f***ing favor.
With no exercise & a diet exclusively from McDonalds, I don’t understand how this man is still walking around. He’s got to be days from a heart attack or blocked arteries or something!
Ghouliani is sauced all the time and is pretty much just a walking fart. If he can convince you of anything, that’s on you. I’m looking forward to seeing them all perp walked.
Totally agree!
I don’t feel like watching Fox to see how they’re covering this. Has anyone watched their coverage? I know they staged a “protest” against the live hearings, but I wonder how they are addressing this.
I can imagine they’d protest public hearings, considering how deeply entwined their organization was/is with the trump organization. In a world where justice actually does rule, they’d lose their FCC license.
Fox is calling it propaganda that they refuse to cover. They’re saying that Biden is the source of inflation. Pick any topic and they’ll explain how Biden’s the source of all that is evil in the world, and that he can’t win. Tucker was yammering on about how gun laws are the end of due process in our country. Basically talking about everything other than the hearings.
I wish people would stop suggesting that this was an on-the-fly, election night decision. He was planning to do it, all along—which is why he wanted his base to vote in person: so that the election night Red Mirage would be maximized, when he declared victory—on election night.