I had a friend who swore by soy milk. She claimed that soya tasted better than real milk, and that it helped her diet considerably. Personally, I’ve never been a milk or soya person. I don’t have cereal for breakfast (I have fresh fruit, so I am somewhat healthy), and I don’t drink coffee, so I don’t have any need for milk, half-in-half or soya. So I have no opinion generally on the Milk v. Soya War. I’m just putting that out there.
Jeremy Piven was once a soy milk person. He drank it all the time, but he had to quite because… wait for it… soya gave him moobs. Moobs are defined as “man boobs” and to my eyes, Jeremy had at least a perky B-cup the last time I saw pictures of him shirtless. Of course, he was also waxed and gross. You can’t blame soya for everything, Piv!
‘Entourage’ actor Jeremy Piven stopped using soya milk because he was afraid it would make him grow breasts.
Jeremy Piven drank so much soya milk he started to grow breasts.
The ‘Entourage’ star has revealed he “dabbled” in using dairy substitutes on his cereal, but switched back to the real thing when he started to feel like a woman.
The 44-year-old actor explained: “I was the guy that dabbled in soya milk, but now I’ve found out soya milk has enough oestrogen for me to grow breasts; I had to put the soya milk down.
“It was a very confusing time.”
Though he was keen to embrace soy products, Jeremy admits he is far less adventurous when it comes to other culinary choices.
He said: “I don’t go too far out with my choices. Although when I was in Japan, I had a traditional Japanese breakfast that consisted of some quail eggs and you actually eat the head of some strange fish. “
“It all looked like Jurassic Park! I don’t think I could be a samurai, but I ate it.”
[From BANG Media International via CelebEdge]
So I googled “soy milk estrogen” and I found that there is some evidence that the Piv might be on to something. Some health-related sites claim that soy “contains a natural chemical that mimics estrogen” and that “soy might increase the risk of breast cancer in some women, affect brain function in men and lead to hidden developmental ab-normalities in infants….2 glasses of soy milk/day, over the course of one month, contain enough of the chemical to change the timing of a woman’s menstrual cycle.” There’s also a few pieces devoted to the idea that “soy milk will make boys gay”. Whatever. Everything in moderation.
Anyway, the Piv and his food, I just don’t know. It was back in December of last year that Jeremy claimed he had mercury poisoning from eating too much sushi. And now he’s blaming soya on his moobs. Maybe the Piv needs one of those nutritional experts to give him some kind of consult. Because he obviously can’t choose his own food anymore.
Jeremy Piven is shown on 3/21/09. Credit: Fame Pictures
Lem claims Piv is a tool
Soooo was it the soya or the reefer? I don’t know why, I know this guy is a bunghole, but I still really dig him. I love the Entourage show the way gals dug Sex and the yada yada. I do agree with you though Lem.
Why do things like this only happen to him?
why does this guy think he is so susceptible to the possible effects of food? he probably has to stay away from asparagus and oysters since they make him instantly want to have threesomes, and he probably turned orange from the beta carotene in carrots. he is so full of it. being a lazy little bitch pud is what gave him his man boobs and his inability to stick through an entire broadway show.
Of course it did. Phytoestrogens. Soy is fine, and even good for you in small amounts, but if you drink it or eat it all day long as a substitute for all dairy and meat products, like Americans do, you’re going to have problems.
So if sushi gave him mercury poisoning and soy milk gave him moobs, what gave him his ass-ish personality? Butter?
Can’t say I know anyone, American or otherwise, who drinks or eats soy all day long.
Crash: “like Americans do”?? What? I don’t know what kind of Americans you know, but we don’t do that as a norm…you must be thinking of American “celebrities”…not the general public. But way to generalize there…
Err, we don’t, Lucy.
You know, compared to other Hollywood douche bags, I have to say, I like him! Yes, he is a douche, but he is fantastic on Entourage, and I loved him in Old School and on Ellen.
He’s right… there is a ton of estrogen in soy milk. you have to be especially careful about giving it to young developing boys.
Me2 Firestarter. He’s so brazen. In a hilarious kinda way. Its like, “look at me! I’m a total pud whacker and not PC in the slightest!” I’m not saying that’s the way to be, I’m just saying on him I find it totally amusing.
My child’s pediatrician believes that the reason girls are maturing at such an alarmingly early age is all the soy in our diets. Crash 2 go 2 said that Soy is fine in moderation…the problem is, it is in EVERYTHING…so very hard to avoid.
Man – this guy is more delicate than an ostrich egg during the blitzkrieg.
What a jerk
Soy is high in phytic acid, which can cause growth problems in children (yes, it can affect girls, too) and thyroid issues. It interferes with the body’s ability to assimilate calcium, magnesium, copper, iron and zinc.
Soy foods also contain high levels of aluminum which is toxic to the nervous system and kidneys. Numerous studies have shown that soy foods can cause infertility.
Unfermented soy, as opposed to soy sauce, tempeh, miso which are fermented, is not meant for human consumption.
It was introduced in the US as an industrial oil in the 1920’s. It is used as filler in many processed foods and is fed to ruminant animals and chickens on industrial farms.
50% of all soy grown in the US is genetic modified to withstand Roundup Ready, a pesticide and is currently the most grown genetically modified (GM) crop in the world!
It’s really nasty stuff, folks and if it’s not on the label of the food you’re eating, it’s feed to the animals who’s products you’re drinking (milk) or eating (beef, pork, dairy, eggs).
Jeremy’s right. The diet the public is told to consume has only industrial farming as it’s interest – not your health!
The only place he went astray is to say his mercury came from fish. Most likely it was from dental amalgams.
what a fokking idiot. Its only animal products that can contain estrogen- in other words, milk where the cows producing it were treated with estrogen.
How the fokk did they get the soybeans to take the estrogen suplements???
Maybe his brain was damaged by his mercury poisoning, but his moobs probably came from too much drinking and being a lazy asshole.
Ok, So ignore parts of my last comment. I had to check it out, and apparently there are some experts noting the link between soy and estrogen. From http://www.breastcancer.org:
“The estrogen-like substances (isoflavones) in soy may stimulate the estrogen receptors of breast cancer cells and make them grow. It’s this potential danger that makes many doctors warn their breast cancer patients against eating soy products.”
No matter, Pivin is still a tool.
And add this to the debate also from http://www.breascancer.org:
On the other hand, there are some that believe that soy may protect a woman from breast cancer. Why? Because the strength of the soy isoflavones’ estrogen-like powers is weak — like 1/1000th the “umph” of estradiol, your own body’s regular estrogen. If the weaker soy isoflavones occupy the estrogen receptors instead of your body’s stronger stuff, then the belief is that the receptors will be less “turned on,” and the cells will be less likely to grow.
Toolbag extraordinaire.
Soybeans contain plant forms of estrogen called phytoestrogens (the chemical name is isoflavones). Phytoestrogens have very weak estrogen-like activity but can also act like antiestrogens, reducing the effects of naturally-produced estrogen. This is one reason that soy might possibly be protective against the development of some types of breast cancer which are stimulated by estrogen.
According to an FDA scientific review, soy does not interfere with childhood growth, does not cause pancreatic or breast cancer, does not significantly interfere with mineral absorption as long as DIETARY CONSUMPTION IS ADEQUATE (everyting in moderation, people), does not induce early puberty, and does not interfere with fertility. There is even some evidence that eating soyfoods can enhance fertility in men. One of the isoflavones in soy may be used to treat male sterility because of its positive hormonal effect on normal sperm production.
Cheekemunk is partially right about soy products, but only for unfermented soy. Fermented and soy products like soy milk & tofu have been either fermented or heat processed which breakdown the isoflavones in the manufacture. Having soy every day in your choca-mocha latte won’t cause “moobs”, but all the sugar and the butter in your accompanying apple struedel certainly will.
Mr. Piven stop making excuses for your inadequacies .
Piven is a tool, and that’s probably what makes him so good at portraying uber-tool Ari Gold.
But he clearly needs to learn more about food. Soy is a major part of our industrial food process, and people don’t necessarily realize (because it’s hard to know) how much they’re actually getting, whether or not they drink soy milk or ingest other soy products.
That shirtless photo of him makes me want to throw up. He looks puffy and gross.
As far as soy milk vs. milk goes…I’ve tasted both. Soy milk tastes pretty good. But I guess it’s a mental thing, because I can’t really drink much of it without getting weirded out. Plain regular cow milk all the way for me. Mmmmmm.
Milk is horrible for humans especially in these times of high demand. The cows are injected every other week with a growth hormone to produce more milk. This forced increase raises levels of pus, antibiotics residue and a cancer accelerating hormone called IGF-1. So then to fight this off they’re injected with antibiotics……all this goes into the milk humans consume….children suffer the most from all these hormones.
Oy Vey said: “Fermented and soy products like soy milk & tofu have been either fermented or heat processed which breakdown the isoflavones in the manufacture.”
Oy Vey is partially right, but soy milk is NOT fermented.
I do not believe any information from the FDA. They spend $60 million per year on testing vaccines, and $1 BILLION on marketing them!
There is nothing wrong with butter. In fact, if it is from pasture raised cows (instead of SOY or grain fed cows) then it is a necessary source of vitamin A.
I still say Soy is nasty. It’s an industry introduced food that has failed. It has made it’s way into baby formula despite no testing. Soy formula provides the equivalent of one birth control pill per day. More information:
http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html
Typical narcissist. Everybody’s fault but his own!
Tazina said “Milk is horrible for humans.”
No, milk is not horrible and in fact, diary farming has been part of humans’ diet for eons, and it even predates agriculture.
What is horrible is what industrialized farming has done to cows by feeding them SOY and grain, loading them antibiotics and growth hormones, pasturizing the milk products (which kills healthy enzymes) and locking the cows in such small stalls they can’t sit down or move. This is not how ruminant animals weren’t meant to live and thus their products are inferior and even detrimental to human health.
Cows are meant to live outside and eat grass, which they convert into vitamin A, an essential element missing from so many people’s diet.
Soy is a symptom of what industrialization has done to our food supply. Messed it up big time!
The Pivert got confused by soy milk? Says it all really.
(Out of curiosity – is the negative impacts of soy because of our highly refined western diet. I mean, billions of Chinese and millions of Japanese can’t all be wrong about tofu, can they? Apropos nothing, there is nothing better for rice pudding than soy milk imho)
Mairead, different ethnicities often have different food tolerances, so what works really well for one group may not for others. Also, is it part of their industrial food system the way it is ours?
Tazina- Give me milk any day. I cannot live without it. I drink a tremendous amount of milk. Love the stuff. Healthy or not, I will never give it up.
Well, it is actually possible because soy milk ups the estrogen in the human body, as does flax seed.
Maybe not working out contributed more so to the moobs, but soy milk, just like beer, increases estrogen levels in men.
Mairead: The typical Asian diet actually contains only a small amount of soy product. For instance, they don’t drink soy milk, or eat tofu ice cream. When you get into that kind of consumption is when soy can become a problem.
Now back to Jeremy Piven – I can’t believe they make thumbie thermals for men!
After all the debate about soy and milk…I ran a new direction. I drink almond milk now. It’s so good! I don’t believe humans are meant to drink other animals’ milk personally, because we naturally stop producing as much lactase as we age. I am lactose intolerant, myself. As far as soy, too much conflicting info (I love miso and tofu though).
I try to eat clean, but I know I risk eating too much corn (a whole other issue) and soy because of the American agricultural system. So, I try to stay away from knowingly ingesting these as much as I can. Almond milk all the way!!
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