Scobie: Rumors abound that Princess Anne will get a ‘new, elevated title’

Princess Anne, the Princess Royal, was with her brother Charles at their mother’s bedside when QEII passed. Anne remained in Scotland when King Charles III returned to London to begin his kingship. Anne traveled with her mother’s remains to Edinburgh, and Anne was the sole “child” of the Queen to travel with her mother from Edinburgh to London. Anne has been, as always, a rock. Unflinching, steady, unshowy. All of those qualities are what British people say they love so much. Interestingly enough, Anne is the focus of Omid Scobie’s Yahoo UK column this week. It feels slightly odd, given the buffet of royal gossip, mess and shambles this week. But I like that Scobie is giving Anne her proverbial flowers. Some highlights:

Anne’s tears and her wish: After four days escorting Queen Elizabeth II’s coffin by car from Balmoral to Aberdeen and by plane from Edinburgh to London, the tearful moment at Westminster Hall was one of the most difficult stops in the Princess Royal’s poignant journey with the “mummy” she was so close to. After spending the final 24 hours of her mother’s life by her side, it was always Anne’s wish to remain alongside the Queen as her body was transported. And while much of the route was witnessed by the public, many moments in those sombre days were also extremely private, often in prayer or deep contemplation. Westminster Hall, however, was the place where Anne would have to finally hand her over, witnessing the late monarch being passed from family to state.

Anne’s place: For the many royalists and those touched by the life of the Queen, the 72-year-old 16th-in-line has quickly become a steady presence helping comfort the nation through its mourning and, just like her mother, been the constant that many feared would now be a thing of the past. As the stalwart of the family, Anne has reliably been present during every moment since the September 8 death of the sovereign and will continue to be so until she is buried at St George’s Chapel in Windsor on Monday.

The workhorse: Anne’s approach to royal life has simply been to keep her head down and get on with her responsibilities—even when few are watching. It’s how she earned the title as hardest working member of the family, carrying out more than 387 engagements last year alone (even with COVID as an obstacle)—two more than her older brother Charles and more than three times more than the then Duchess of Cambridge. “She needs no praise nor attention,” a family friend told me this week. “The work itself is where she gets her satisfaction.”

Business as usual: While much talk is now focused on other family members “stepping up” to support the new king, or those bigger roles taken on by the newly-styled Prince and Princess of Wales, it’s business as usual for Anne, who I’m told already has a packed diary of engagements to dive into the moment royal mourning ends seven days after the funeral.

Scobie thinks Anne should be a Counsellor of State: It feels almost criminal to think that, because of her current standing, Anne has not become a Counsellor of State after the death of the Queen—a role that allows the sovereign’s spouse and the next four in line (over the age of 21) to stand in for King Charles if he is unable to undertake his duties due to illness or absence abroad. Instead, joining Camilla, Queen Consort, Prince William, Prince Harry and Prince Andrew is a third non-working royal on the list—Princess Beatrice. Make it make sense.

A new title for Anne? It’s rumoured that a new, elevated title may be on the horizon for Anne, and I can’t think of anyone in the family more deserving. But if it happens, don’t expect it to make much difference. Title or no title, Anne will always go above and beyond the call of duty—whether anyone is watching or not.

[From Yahoo UK]

I wasn’t aware that there was a stand-alone title for a woman of royal blood higher than The Princess Royal. That title was Queen Elizabeth II’s gift to her much beloved daughter after decades of service to the crown. Like Scobie says, it’s not as if Anne even cares for that kind of thing, but I’m curious if Charles does find some obscure way to elevate Anne even higher with a new title. I also suspect that if Charles does this, he will do it so Anne won’t have to curtsy to any woman but Queen Camilla (and Anne might not even bother with that).

As for Scobie’s small, shady asides… well done. “…More than three times more than the then Duchess of Cambridge” and “or those bigger roles taken on by the newly-styled Prince and Princess of Wales, it’s business as usual for Anne…” While the rest of the Windsor clan scramble to elevate themselves, Anne carries on. And her brother might reward her for it.

Photos courtesy of Avalon Red, Cover Images.

You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed.

132 Responses to “Scobie: Rumors abound that Princess Anne will get a ‘new, elevated title’”

Comments are Closed

We close comments on older posts to fight comment spam.

  1. Mooney says:

    I’m sorry but I still don’t understand why she has to wear the military uniform? She hasn’t served a day in her life….

    • Brassy Rebel says:

      When Anne was a young woman, females could not serve in the regular military. They could only serve in “women’s” segregated branches. I don’t begrudge her wearing the uniform of the service she currently leads in an honorary capacity. But the men who do this get no amnesty from me.

      • BothSidesNow says:

        I take no issue with Anne wearing medals. I agree with regards for the men, their medals are simply for ego-boosting, nothing more.

      • Becks1 says:

        I mean they’re still fake medals, only for ego-boosting. We can have more sympathy bc she could not fully serve at the time, but that only makes her slightly better in this regard IMO.

      • Sid says:

        So she still could have done a stint in the women’s branch but chose not to? I don’t know that’s much better than Edward who at least sort of tried even though he ended up quitting basic training. Even her mom, then a future queen, joined up for a bit during WWII even if it was mostly for PR.

      • Brassy Rebel says:

        Separate was not equal, then as now. It would have been for show only, even as women serving often did difficult, dangerous tasks with no acknowledgement or reward. They should be honored! They rarely are. Obviously, Anne decided to pursue her dream of winning an Olympic 🏅 as an equestrian which she did. As an only daughter, I think she must have felt a real sense of accomplishment equal to her brothers’. Young women today do not fully appreciate the barriers women faced just fifty years ago and how difficult it was to gain real acknowledgement of their accomplishments.

      • Becks1 says:

        …..? Yes, women should be honored and acknowledged for their accomplishments.

        Anne still did not serve in the military so has no earned medals. Hers are as fake as the majority of Charles’ or Andrew’s (since they both did serve, but I’m assuming that the medals are still mostly “honorary.”)

        We can discuss the sexism and barriers women faced 50 years ago – and still face today – without giving anne a pass for her uniform and medals while finding the same honorary uniform and medals a joke on the men.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        Brassy Rebel, I know someone who served. The mother of a really good friend of mine (a British war bride) drove trucks. She was in England, I think. Troops from all over Europe were stationed there for specific periods of time and moved on, and more troops came in from other countries. She’s in her 90s today and still driving–and she’s still good at it. She was part of some type of “military” although not as it is today. I’ll have to remember to ask her the next time I see her. This was during WWII, of course.

        Since my friend’s Mother was able to do that during that time, yes, Anne, could have done something in the military. My friend’s Mother worked hard, but it sounds like she had fun, too. To say nothing of having boyfriends from different countries.

        The WRAC (Women Royal Amy Corp) was formed in 1949.

      • Brassy Rebel says:

        No one should get “a pass”, Becks, but we should recognize that her situation was quite different than her brothers’. Just the fact that she was displaced in line of succession by two much younger brothers demonstrates that. Male primogeniture had a distorting effect on her life. And she was a woman in the most privileged family in Britain.

        Thanks for your comment on the women who helped win WWII, Saucy&Sassy. I’m not as familiar with what happened in GB as here in the States, but here when the war ended, so did the brief taste of equality women had. They were told to go home, become wives and mothers, and their military units which performed so well were disbanded. Only recently have these women been upgraded to full veterans status. I hope women in GB were treated much better.

        The same happened to Black military units such as the Tuskegee Airmen. Just as inexcusable.

    • SussexFan says:

      She’s also an honorary military of several regiments.

    • BeanieBean says:

      Fake uniform, fake medals, same as with a couple of her brothers. She’s really no different.

  2. Noki says:

    Good for her. The bow and curtsy business i always find interesting. Anne is quite respetful, i have seen her curtsy to other Royal Houses that outrank her . But i cant see her doing that to Camilla or Kate. Its good there is the rule that if you have already seen each other that day you dont have to because the public wont know.

    • molly says:

      She’ll have to curtsy to Camilla now as queen, but I suspect Charles will exempt her from having to do it to Kate when she’s alone. (Basically what the queen did when she exempt Anne from Camilla as PoW.)

    • Becks1 says:

      My favorite was one time a few years ago, when felipe and Letizia were here, and anne met Felipe at an official event and she CURTSYED to him. Meaning, she was all the way down to the ground and he was laughing at her and pulled her up. She was making it very clear that she respected his rank (also they’re cousins of one sort or another, I think Sofia and Philip were second cousins once removed? first cousins once removed? something like that.) I can’t see Kate doing that for a sovereign. (I think this was the same visit when she snubbed Letizia.)

      So yes, I think we will see Anne curtseying very prominently to Charles and Camilla at big state events (such as the coronation.) I would be surprised if we ever see her curtsy in public to anyone else.

      • Julaine says:

        Felipe is related to the Mountbatten-Windsors through multiple lines of descent.

        Felipe VI is descended from Victoria three ways and Christian IX twice. His father, King Juan Carlos I, is descended from Victoria and not Christian IX, while Juan Carlos’ consort, Queen Sofía, is twice a descendant of Victoria and twice a great-great-granddaughter of Christian IX.

        Of course, he is also related to them through Phillip since Felipe’s mother was also a Princess of Greece and Denmark as Phillip was.

        The two families are close and have vacationed together many times over the years.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Philip’s father was a Prince of Greece and Denmark and a grandson of Christian IX.

        Phillip’s mother was born a Battenberg.

      • Babz says:

        Kate couldn’t even be bothered to offer much of a curtsy at the Queen’s coffin. It was like she offered the bare minimum. Then Meghan executed her flawless curtsy, and showed how it should be done. Meghan curtsies like Anne – full on, no messing around. Kate isn’t about to offer much more to Camilla or royalty from other countries. Wasn’t it several years ago at the Garter ceremony that she was rude to Queen Letizia, who was there with her husband the King of Spain? She ignored her or turned her back on her, can’t remember which, but I distinctly remember Sophie being right there as it all happened, and dressed very much like Kate, in cream and those ubiquitous nude colored heels with the platform under the toe of the shoe. Sophie and Kate together showed their true selves long before the Commonwealth Service.

      • aftershocks says:

        @BayTampaBay: “Phillip’s mother was born a Battenberg.”

        Prince Philip’s mother, Princess Alice of Battenberg, was born at Windsor Castle. Queen Victoria is her great-grandmother on the maternal side. (Alice’s mother, Princess Victoria of Hesse and by Rhine is a granddaughter of Queen Victoria). Of course, the Battenbergs changed their name to the more English-sounding Mountbatten, just as the Saxe-Coburg-Gothas became Windsors during WWI.

        Philip was born at Windsor Castle like his mother, where he also died. In the documentary about Windsor which Philip appeared in, when the 1992 fire and restoration was discussed, it was clear how much Windsor Castle meant to Philip. Of course, he also loved Wood Farm at Sandringham, and family picnics at Balmoral, where he presided at the grill (as Harry described so lovingly in his tribute after Philip’s passing). Harry was quite close to Philip, in addition to looking a lot like him, aside from his ginger Spencer coloring.

      • Betsy says:

        @aftershocks – no, Philip was born on Corfu.

    • Isabella says:

      The cursey should be the first thing to go if they want to present a modern image. It’s creepy and weird.

  3. SomeChick says:

    I adore Omid, but the second quote needs a rewrite. it suggests that they’re going to bury poor Anne!

    I’m also curious what title could possibly outrank Princess Royal.

    • Hyacinth Bucket says:

      Supreme Mugwump?

      • BothSidesNow says:

        Absolutely!!! Anne is perfectly suited for such a title!!

        As long as she is above PoWailing, I am here for it!!

      • LilacMaven says:

        I will die laughing if Charles bypasses Edward and his Ford Fiesta and names Princess Anne the Duchess of Edinburgh.

      • aftershocks says:

        @Hyacinth Bucket: “Supreme Mugwump?”

        How about Supreme Princess of Salty Isle Realm? Or, Staunch Upholder of Cult Kool-Aid? Hmmm, The King’s One And Only Reliable Sister? Or, Regnal Counselor, The Princess Royal? What about The Royalest Duty-Bound Princess Ever? Or simply Regal Princess Anne of Windsor? Annie Regal for short? 😜

    • BayTampaBay says:

      CIII-PO could make Anne Duchess of Edinburgh or Duchess of Dover. It is not against any “Royal Protocol or Precedent” to make a woman a Duchess in her own right, it is just very-very rarely done. However, it can be and has been done.

      Footnote: See Anne Scott, 1st Duchess of Buccleuch and Cecilia Underwood, Duchess of Inverness.

      • Brandy Alexander says:

        And Anne Boleyn was made Marquess of Pembroke in her own right too. There’s definitely a history of women getting titles on their own.

        That’s what I was thinking – he’s going to make her a Duchess.

      • SussexFan says:

        Over Edward’s dead body. Remember that he wants the Duke/Duchess of Edinburgh title for himself and Sophie.

      • Christine says:

        It would be hilarious if Chuck made her Duchess of Edinburgh.

      • aftershocks says:

        ^^ Ha ha, she certainly has her father’s strong temperament, without much of his crusty humor. I mean she has the crotchety crust part, but doesn’t have as much of his humor.

        HRH The Princess Royal, Duchess of Edinburgh would be a hoot. The title would die with her, and could be created yet again by William for one of his children or grandchildren. But Duchess of Dover has a nice ring to it.

    • molly says:

      I think he’s just talking about “Chancellor of State” as her new “elevated title”, but I was a bit confused too. Anne has pretty much everything else. (Order of the Garter, etc.)

      • Becks1 says:

        That’s what I think. This isn’t about giving Anne a title. This is about making her a counsellor of state, as Omid points out that under the current law, three nonworking royals are now counsellors. It just seems like anne makes more sense than at least Beatrice.

      • Feeshalori says:

        Most likely that will be the case.

  4. Mslove says:

    Of course Anne always put her head down & did her work without fuss. Can you imagine if she tried to hog the spotlight (gasp) from the Queen & Chuck? She knows how the family operates.

  5. K says:

    Oh Anne…but for that STUPID primogeniture. I have no idea either what goes above Princess Royal. Could it be some kind of Marechal style title? I know that’s an Old French styling but is there similar in Britain?

    • Sid says:

      IIRC the HRH Duke/ HRH Duchess titles outrank the HRH Prince/ss titles, so I wonder if they also outrank the Princess Royal title. If so, Chuck making Anne an HRH Duchess in her own right would be a step up.

      • Rtms says:

        Royal Dukedoms, do not out rank Prince/ess titles. Prince titles are always the top after a monarch. Hence Prince William Duke of Cambridge. Same with Andrew/Edward and Harry. Their Prince title comes first. Chucky3 could maybe make Princess Anne the highest ranked Duchess in the realm though that might belong to Catherine not sure. As a born blood princess and Princess Royal title I don’t see how anything could be higher.

    • SomeChick says:

      Charles was born first. but can you imagine if it was female primogeniture? Anne would make a far better queen than her brother.

  6. Over it says:

    Lol. Omid is so shady and I love it. Lol.

  7. HandforthParish says:

    First Royal woman to stand at a vigil and to walk in a funeral cortege.

    I really admire Anne. The way she dealt with her kidnapper back in the day? She’s one tough cookie.

    • BothSidesNow says:

      Could you imagine being her kidnapper??? She would have had their manhoods in vices in the blink of their eyes. I imagine that they were relieved to be rid of her.

    • Brassy Rebel says:

      Anyone who never heard an account of that kidnapping attempt should Google it. She’s as brave as she is no-nonsense. It’s another reason not to resent her wearing a uniform. Had she been allowed to serve, there is no doubt she would have done so bravely and with distinction.

    • Feeshalori says:

      I always loved her retort to the kidnapper who was trying to get her out of the car, “Not bloody likely.” And mind you, he was carrying a gun and had shot her bodyguard.

    • MF says:

      She is a tough cookie. She would have made a good heir and a good queen. Instead, the world is getting Charles. *sigh*

    • Lucy says:

      Anne and her attempted kidnapping is one of my favorite royal stories and I really like her. I feel the same way about her that I do about Martha Stewart.

      I don’t think they’re particularly nice, and probably wouldn’t want to hang out with them, but they know themselves and are fully themselves.

      • Nick G says:

        @Lucy that’s absolutely right…she is like Martha in that way. Definitely not nice at all, but there’s no way one can begrudge them a hell of a lot of respect.

  8. Haylie says:

    Chuck is trying to strip royal titles from his grandchildren, Archie and Lilibet, 6th and 7th in line, but wants to elevate the 16th in line? And this is a good thing?

    • ML says:

      Thank you, @ Haylie. This makes no sense to me either.

    • ThatsNotOkay says:

      It’s asinine.

    • Anastasia says:

      I think these are two separate issues.

      Anne is the work horse of the family, does as much as QEII, and seems to Chuck’s, well, biggest non-tampon support.

      I think this is figuring out how to bump Andrew and the York Princesses down in line so Anne becomes a counselor of state

    • Lady Esther says:

      Haven’t titles and styles always and ever been used as either reward or punishment? Nothing new here….

  9. K9l0 says:

    My cousin is a Consultant and was one of a team that looked after Prince Philip while in was in Hospital in Scotland, of course we where all dying to know de gossip but he said while he was there he only saw Princess Anne, who ‘was very nice’ and that was it, no other visitors !!!! Poor Philip lol

    • BothSidesNow says:

      @ K910, why am I not surprised by this one bit?? Anne was certainly the only one that was deserving of her parents admiration. Anne seems to be the most mature, well rounded as well as dutiful member of her siblings as well as the all of the off-spring of the following BRF members. Yet we never hear scandalous stories about her either….

      • ThatsNotOkay says:

        She was crap towards Diana. Thumbs down from me.

      • SussexWatcher says:

        Maybe not a scandal, especially in those circles, but wasn’t she husband swapping with Cams? Or cheating on her first husband with Andrew PB?

        I personally don’t get all the love and adoration for her. She seems just as petty and cold as the rest of the “blood royals” (sans Harry). And the work is such a joke that I’m not really impressed by 300+ engagements of 15 minute visits to a farm or whatever with an arrival greeting and lunch all counting as separate engagements.

        As for elevating her to a new title, what is above The Princess Royal? Chuck would have to make up a new title for her right?

      • Mary says:

        @sussexwatcher, I absolutely agree about Princess Anne; I’m not impressed with her number of engagements either. She was known to cram as many as possible into one day. Yes, this means she does more engagements; however, I don’t think she could have possibly given each charity the time and attention that they deserved.

      • Rtms says:

        Agree, she comes off as very arrogant and elitist. And got away with cheating on her husband and remarried without anyone really caring. And they barley spend time together.

  10. BothSidesNow says:

    If anyone should be deemed to reign the Monarchy, it should be Anne. She is certainly beyond capable as well as would follow mostly in her mothers footsteps, though I could see her being much more mindset in the 21st century as opposed to anyone else.

    Oh Omid!! I love his digs at the laziness of Princess of Wails!!! She deserves every bit of call-out as she isn’t worthy of any position with any form of a royal title. When is everyone going to start calling her out on her laziness???

  11. Alice says:

    He should make her Duchess of Edinborough in her own right. When she was married back in the 1970s her first husband was offered a title. If Andrew and Edward get handed titles as gifts Anne more than deserves one. And it should be her fathers.

    • Feeshalori says:

      If Edward doesn’t get the DOE title, I’d certainly love to see it go to Anne. If anyone’s earned her right to a title it’s definitely Anne. It would be such an accolade for her, she really deserves it.

  12. M says:

    Can CIII make her the Duchess of Edinburgh? I’ve been wondering that all week.

    • L84Tea says:

      I’m wondering that too! I won’t lie, that would be almost fitting for her considering she was so close with her father. Sophie will crumble…

    • ML says:

      That would make Charles’s life even more difficult, wouldn’t it? The fact that his brother, Edward, was supposed to be made Duke of Edinburgh and hasn’t is already a thing. KC3 giving the title to his sister, Anne, instead? He would need to know that a majority of his family and Britain approved of that move, because he’s bleeding helpful family members in droves.

    • Nevia says:

      I would love that for Anne, tbh. And I think she deserves it.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        CIII-PO can make Anne Duchess of Dover. Duke of Dover was the title offered to Churchill which he turned down.

    • erni says:

      Exactly what I’m thinking, be a Duchess on her own merit. If she gets DOE, I’d say it’s well deserved.

    • Lady Esther says:

      I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a title in play it would be a Royal Duchess title as the royal men receive at their weddings (if they’re not born with it), but I’ve always suspected that William wants the Duke of Edinburgh title for George at his marriage and Charles has already agreed. I do not expect Edward to get it at all…

      The Princess Royal is a higher title, but a royal Dukedom (Duchessdom?) with hereditary privileges will benefit Zara and Peter and their kids, so even if she was still styled the Princess Royal I bet Anne would be happy to accept.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Peter would get the Dukedom title but not the HRH as the HRH cannot pass through the female line. It would be like the Duke of Kent’s eldest son, George Windsor, Earl of St Andrews, inheriting the Kent Dukedom (but no HRH as a great-grandson of a monarch) when his father dies. With no HRH, you really are just a couple steps above the plebs.

      • Feeshalori says:

        I was already thinking if Anne does become a duchess, would her children get titled as lord and lady? Or once again, would the inability to pass titles down through the female be in play here? And wouldn’t it be nice if Zara inherited the title to continue the position of a female Duchess inheriting in her own right instead of going to Peter.

      • Lady Esther says:

        @Feeshalori, I think this is how it works, I’m sure others can correct me if not…remember that titles are different from “styles” which are a choice:

        If Anne gets a Royal Dukedom (Duchessdom?) that is hereditary and held in her own right as a woman, then

        1) while Anne is alive, her children are officially Lord and Lady and can be styled Lord and Lady if they wish, so they would be Lady Zara and Lord Peter (or Lord Peter with any secondary courtesy titles attached to the Dukedom (Duchessdom?) if they wish

        2) when Anne dies, then her titles “pass,” and Peter gets the Duke title as the elder son. Lady Zara stays the same. Even if Zara was older, she wouldn’t get the title, because male primogeniture is still applicable for aristocrats and if the RF tries to go against that, then they’ll upset the applecart for many, many other aristocratic titles across the UK. That is extremely unlikely to happen

      • Becks1 says:

        I don’t think Anne would consider a hereditary dukedom valuable as something to pass down to her kids, as she made a very conscious choice when she got married the first time (I’m assuming along with her husband) to NOT accept a title from the queen so her children would NOT be titled. And overall it seems like it was a smart choice.

    • Alyse says:

      Not all titles can be passed on to females. According to Debretts, Duke of Edinburgh is not on that list. Only Dukedom on the list is Marlborough and that seat is filled. There doesn’t seem to be a title that would raise her higher than she already is? Other than another act of Parliament that would backdate the new line of succession, and put Anne higher than Andrew and Edward, but that won’t happen!
      Debretts website – https://t.co/JHjlB9VanM

      • BayTampaBay says:

        CIII-PO will have to make a new creation of the title “Duke of Edinburgh” and he can put anything he wants in the remainder of the new title creation. Therefore, The “new” creation of the Duke of Edinburgh title could go to a female. The next creation will be the 4th creation of the Duke of Edinburgh title.

        A female remainder was created by Queen Victoria with regards to the Fife Dukedom. On 24 April 1900, Queen Victoria issued another Letters Patent by which she created for The 1st Duke of Fife the further dignities of Duke of Fife and Earl of Macduff, both in the Peerage of the United Kingdom, and both with a special remainder that allowed these titles to pass to his daughters.

    • Murphy says:

      Thats exactly what I thought when I heard that, hadn’t thought about it once until now. And you know what–I don’t hate it.

  13. Amy Bee says:

    Is Charles going to make her co-King? He needs all the help he can get.

    • BothSidesNow says:

      Yes he does!! In less than one week, he has caused nothing but missteps, pettiness, exposing his true colors and and raging tempers due to a silly pen, twice! NO ONE sees him as fit for King. I would imagine many Brits don’t find him fit either!!

      • Emma says:

        @bothsidesnow the only thing I’d say about the pen thing is, yes he’s far from great, but he did just lose his mum. I lost my mum 3 years ago and I was uncharacteristically snappy with people sometimes afterwards for a time – grief can do weird things to your behaviour (temporarily!)

    • Turnawry says:

      Agreed. The man is incapable of managing a Montblanc, let alone a monarchy.

    • Lemons says:

      Could you imagine? Queen Consort Camilla and the QUEEEEEEEN Anne 😂

    • Becks1 says:

      🤣🤣🤣 He really does as we’ve seen over the past week.

  14. RiaH says:

    Didn’t Prince Phillip once say Anne would make an amazing King? It was something like that that threw shade at all of his sons.

    • BothSidesNow says:

      Would not surprise me. She is just shy of 2 years younger than Charles and has remained steadfast and clear of shady activities as well.

    • tuille says:

      Diana said that Harry’d be the better king.

      • RiaH says:

        This was specifically between PP and Anne. Maybe it was she was the son he never had? It definitely threw shade at her brothers, though. I’m going to try to find it.

    • COS says:

      I have always had a lot of respect for Princess Anne. She’s a work horse and very committed to her duties. Feel bad that they are still loading all the work on her as she’s entering her 70s. The royal bench is looking very thin without H&M. I would be seriously panicking right now if I was Charles.

  15. Pumpkin (was Sofia) says:

    She’s already Princess Royal, I don’t think you can get more elevated than that. I’m not exactly even sure what title Charles could make up to give to her lol. But Duchess of Edinburgh? I can see that but it would just be an “add on” to her title rather than an elevation since she’s already, again, princess royal.

  16. Jackson says:

    I swear I read a couple days ago that Andrew was getting a new title/being elevated/something something like that. Maybe it was just speculation tho. Still seemed to be such an odd story.

  17. Kokiri says:

    It seems to me, of all the active royals, she’s the one who actually loved her mom.
    Her grief screams, to me, that her mom died. Not the queen.
    The rest of them are vultures circling & vying for the handouts.
    Obviously not H&M.

    I may be wrong but it feels she’s the only one who is actually trying to work for her lifestyle, albeit it’s still not remotely a fair exchange of services.

  18. Lindsey says:

    Could they perhaps give her the Edinburgh title? Honestly, I could see it, if possible.
    She was Phillips favorite, and if she was a man, her getting that dukedom would be a no brainer.

    • SussexFan says:

      This would chap Edward’s behind. Let him get that title. Anne’s Philip’s favorite because she’s most like him. Charles was and is softer. He needed his mothe, but she wasn’t there. Some of Philip’s bullying came from the fact that he couldn’t be king himself, and he was jealous of the boy.

  19. Rapunzel says:

    They should declare Anne The Hand of the King. She’d totally cut a bitch.

  20. Paulkid says:

    Nope, she stomped her feet to be deemed Princess Royal because she was jealous of the esteem that the other princess, Diana, received. She snootily put in some PR time as one of the most privileged people in this world and spending 24 whole hours with a parent who had been grievously Ill for over a year is nothing to brag about. It is an insult to those many people who solely hand feed and cleanse their elders for a much longer period. She doesn’t deserve more titles, only humility, self reflection and a work ethic that actually benefits those in need. Sell some ill- gotten jewels. The same could be said of all of them with the exception of Meghan and Harry.

    • Mary says:

      💥 💯

    • Mrs.Krabapple says:

      I agree. The excessive praise for Anne is confusing to me, as is the canonization of Elizabeth. And I suspect Anne was behind the pressure on Elizabeth to change the order of precedence so that females with the correct “blood” would outrank the married-ins. The whole notion of superior blood seems racist to me.

      • SussexFan says:

        It is racist. But let’s get real: Meghan, Sophie, and Kate are commoners.

      • Mrs.Krabapple says:

        And so was Camilla. But either they get titles and status from their husbands when they marry, or they don’t. Personally, I don’t think anyone should have a title unless they are the actual monarch (who arguably is the only one with an actual job, head of state). But IF they are going to be giving other family members titles, including wives, then having the correct “blood” should not make a difference, imho.

      • aftershocks says:

        @MrsKrabApple: “I agree. The excessive praise for Anne is confusing to me, as is the canonization of Elizabeth.”

        ^^ I suppose it has to do with thousands of years of indoctrination; lulled by the romanticization, the mystique (albeit now dwindling), the global status quo of it all, the heavy religious aspect, and the blinding, shiny richness of the deeply embedded spectacle of pomp and circumstance.

        Particularly in Britain, there’s an ingrained class system which citizens are so accustomed to living under and meekly accepting. The grandmotherly provenance and p.r. of the Queen combined with the headiness of her longevity, and the vast history of the British monarchy as a superior institution, is some kinda freaky all-consuming kool-aid, which many people are so used to enjoying and so willing to continue sipping on daily.

        Even the first two seasons of The Crown played into and perpetuated aspects of the mystique, the romanticization, the untouchable inheritance, while also sympathetically humanizing the Queen, Prince Philip, and even the selfish, traitorous Duke of Windsor.

    • QuiteContrary says:

      This is exactly how I feel, Paulkid, and I thought it was just because it’s been a long week at work and I need a glass of wine.
      All this talk about Anne “deserving” to wear a uniform, Anne “deserving” an elevation in status. Talk to me after she works a 16-hour nursing shift on a COVID floor, like my sister regularly did during the height of the pandemic … or after she’s taught a classful of students with special needs, as my late sister did for years … or after she served in Afghanistan like my cousin (or Harry) did.
      Anne never served in the military, so she and the other cosplayers should hang up their uniforms and fake medals. And she is rewarded handsomely for her lifetime of “service,” so I’m not about to throw her a parade.

  21. Kaye says:

    Props to Turnawry: “The man is incapable of managing a Montblanc, let alone a monarchy,” and Rapunzel: “They should declare Anne The Hand of the King. She’d totally cut a bitch.” Best comments of the week, bar none.

  22. Well Wisher says:

    The Princess Royale is a traditionalist, totally disliked the media and their braying about taxpayers when they want access.
    She does not do fashion, like the old aristocrats.
    When she opts to speak, it is her words but she carries an impressive work load.
    If this is true, it will be good news for she is deserving.

  23. MerlinsMom1018 says:

    In some pictures of her, not all, but some, she looks like Queen Mary.
    Just my opinion

  24. Paulkid says:

    She does a job with little grace for the public I have only seen her smiling since the Flop Tour, when royal image was sinking. Her obstinate response to the prospective kidnapper,with oncoming and increaaed provided security protection unfolding during the attempt, is unsurprising. Her lack of gratitude and recognition to the three who were shot in her defense says much about her character, or lack thereof. Privilege.

  25. A says:

    Wrt the counsellors of state stuff–sorry, but them’s the brakes. One of those people is Andrew. If only there was some way to change the constitution during instances like this, in a clear, straightforward sort of way…but that sort of system must be a pipe dream, and not something that the vast majority of the rest of the world does already.

    As for Princess Anne, it’s honestly more likely that Charles is going to create some type of title specifically for her. Wouldn’t be surprised if he invests her with a life time peerage of some kind in her own right, as others have suggested.

    I honestly don’t get the love for Princess Anne, especially all the people going on and on about how she’s all about “duty” and is not “flashy” and doesn’t want “press” or whatever. She is still a snob, with an excessively sized ego when it comes to what she thinks is the proper way to “behave” as a princess. If all she really wanted was to keep her head down and continue working, then she’d put her money where her mouth is and turn down any and every honour that Charles tries to fling her way. Why take the praise when that’s not what this is about.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      A, doesn’t she make money by stabling horses, and who knows what else? Every time we turn around we run up against royals who are commercializing their titles while representing the crown. The one thing that Anne has done exceptionally well in later years is to stay under the radar. She certainly played the aristocracy’s bed roulette. She was just another royal who didn’t like Diana and I have no doubt was worse than just unkind.

      So, she’s learned to keep her head down. Big whoop.

    • MA says:

      @A I agree with you. She’s a snob and a jerk but that’s reframed as “no nonsense”. If Meghan acted like that she’d be labeled a bully even by this site and Sussex supporters. Yeah she’s better than some of her fellow privileged out of touch royals but that’s not saying much.

    • SnoodleDumpling says:

      I think the love for Anne stems from the actions of the British media.

      At this point they British media is essentially showing a PowerPoint with precisely 2 slides, one of which is pictures of Kate, William, Charles, Edward, Sophie, and the Queen with white wings, halos, and freaking golden harps floating in fluffy clouds, and the second one is a picture of Meghan with devil horns and a pitchfork in a burning hellscape with Harry in a cage with a poorly drawn-on frowny face (and also there’s a tiiiiny Andrew in the background on a horse). Those two pictures are on every television at least once a day and in every paper at least six times every day. This has been occurring for the last 4-5 years.

      Anne is attractive simply because they haven’t been howling at the moon and frothing at the mouth over eleventy-billion stories they have written involving her 24/7 for the last 4-5 years.

  26. CC says:

    As many have already noted, there’s not much higher to go than “Princess Royal” in the English language.
    Maybe they’re about to reveal that Camilla’s 40+ year presence in the royal circle has been a smokescreen, and Charles has always been secretly married to Anne. Get all Ptolemaic/Targaryen with it.

    • Anastasia says:

      “In addition to saying only the children of the heir/sovereign can be HRH, I am also creating a new position, specifically for sisters of the king, less than three years apart, and calling it “Ferrow.”” Charles in the next letters patent, probably

  27. HeyKay says:

    I think Anne should get a promotion, title, whatever she wants.
    She will be a big help to Charles too. If he is smart enough to include her, she has always been hardworking and frankly, I think she would be better at the job than Charles.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      HeyKay, I seriously doubt that CIIIPO would admit that he needs help. I also doubt that Anne wants to hold his hand. They appear to have a decent royal relationship. I suggest they leave it at that.

  28. K8erade says:

    $10 says Charles makes her Duchess of Edinburgh rather than give the title to Edward as promised.

  29. Chantal says:

    Out of the four siblings, Edward and Anne are the only ones whose “work” for the monarchy makes any promotion palatable and deserved. Charles needs Anne for his kingship like William needs Harry for his. Chuck is clearly out of his depths here and if its not about royal pettiness and nastiness, its doubtful the Consort will be much help. He needs someone on his team advising him and not afraid to call him out on his bs. Anne is that person.
    Wars with unsuspecting pens aside, Chuck’s horrible decision making, inability to read a room, and placing revenge above acting like he has a modicum of sense and decorum doesn’t bode well for the UK, let alone the aristocracy. If it true about the pending bill allowing the monarch to remove titles, they should all be very afraid. He, like his heir, has awful tyrant like tendencies and behaviors and isn’t afraid to show them.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Chantal, well the positive is that when his son ends up on the thrown no one will notice the difference, except that Fails gets angrier faster.

  30. Another Anna says:

    She and Charles are pretty close, right? I could also see Charles pushing for her to be elevated as a way of reminding Andrew and Edward that a new monarchy is upon them and they are absolutely out of favor. Not that he needs to remind them of that, but I could see him doing it for his own satisfaction, because he is a petty little prick.

  31. amyb says:

    Duchess of Edinburgh for Anne – it will keep it in the family, won’t pass to her kids and by the time Louis gets married she’ll probably be gone so it will go to him because no one will want to be Duke of York – it will take time for the stink to get off that title

    • SnoodleDumpling says:

      As the Dukedom of Edinburgh has merged with the Crown it would be a new creation requiring a new Letters Patent, and unless Charles decides to explicitly make it a lifetime peerage that cannot be passed down (which would be VERY unusual), when she died it would pass to her legitimate male heir, a.k.a. her son Peter.

      Titles in the peerage of the UK don’t care that the titleholder’s male offspring were born before the titleholder held the title, so long as the offspring are legitimate they inherit the title upon the death of the previous holder.

  32. CourtneyB says:

    Titles can be silly but I’d love if he made her a peer. Make HER the Duchess of Edinburgh. Or really just another title. Duchess of Gatcombe or something. Because it’s only the ingrained sexism that denied her what all the men get. There’ve been too few female Duchesses in their own right. The only royal I can think of is George VI’s cousin Princess Alexandra (Edward VII’s granddaughter) who was allowed to inherit her father’s Duchy of Fife. She was, coincidentally, the daughter of a Princess Royal, Louise (1867-1931).

  33. Isabella says:

    Who do we think is floating the Anne rumours? She doesn’t seem the type to leak to the press. I can’t see Charles or Wills leaking on anybody else’s behalf.

  34. Christine says:

    Since I am now a Ph.D. candidate, apparently, in the procession for QEII, to Westminster Abbey, I noticed that all of the really ornately dressed people who walked next to the coffin, before the royal family started bowing and curtsying, en masse, made their own decision who they were going to defer to.

    The lady in the front, chose to bow her head in deference to all of them, I guess? I get it, don’t pick a team among the king and fk, that is a losing battle. It got so much more interesting after that, because the guy next to her did the same. I am now referring to them as cowards, because there are very clearly officials in that line who are choosing to bow to Anne, really gleefully, and I hope she knows it. The fourth in line to bow is my true love, he clearly sniffed in Charles’ direction, and waited to bow to Anne.

  35. Bisynaptic says:

    @babz — good god, we’re not going to hold a competition for who scrapes and bows the hardest before the dead Queen’s corpse-in-a-box. That Meghan, an American, was curtseying, at all, is contrary to our national ethos and the cause for which the Revolutionary War was fought. But she married into that horrific family, so…

  36. MoonRiver says:

    I think we can all agree that Anne has served the crown exceptionally well for over 50 years. If anyone in the family is deserving of recognition, it would be Anne. And, I agree with Scobie that she should be a Counsellor of State, particularly since Harry no longer lives in country. I’m sure Charles will rely heavily on her input moving forward, but how many more made up titles, honorifics, ribbons, badges and awards can these royals bestow upon one another?