Over the next few weeks, if the past is prologue, we’ll see King Charles throw the full weight of Buckingham Palace behind an effort to… whine about The Crown. When he did that same thing in 2020, it caught me off-guard, but now I’m expecting it. In 2020, Charles arranged for surrogates to blanket the British media, complaining about how everything in The Crown is fiction and how Diana was no victim and no one should pay any attention to any of this ancient history. There will be much more pointed criticism this time around, I would imagine. Especially since Peter Morgan has made it perfectly clear that he is using Diana and Charles’s own words, from the interviews they did and the books they had written. In any case, for Season 5, Charles seems to be leaning into the “it was a painful time for everyone involved, why dredge up the past” argument.
The new series of The Crown is set to dredge up every painful detail of King Charles’s marriage to the late Princess Diana — just as the nation rallies around the new monarch. It rakes over some of the most intimate aspects of their crumbling marriage in the early 1990s and portrays the then Prince of Wales as petty, cold and deceitful.
The fifth series, which starts on streaming giant Netflix next month, is also likely to upset Prince William who is seen, along with brother Prince Harry, being caught in a psychological tug of war between their royal parents.
A TV insider said: “This couldn’t have come at a more delicate time for the new King and his Queen Consort, particularly as they’re riding high in the minds of the public. There’s a sense that Netflix are muckraking over events that took place 30 to 40 years ago, but are still raw for those involved. The worst element for the royals is that millions of people around the world will view this series and view it less as a drama and more as a documentary. And attention on the Windsors couldn’t be higher as it’s been just a few weeks since Queen Elizabeth II’s funeral and is in the run-up to the King’s coronation.”
Netflix had considered delaying the launch date of series five out of respect for the Queen following her death last month but decided to press ahead.
Netflix literally never considered delaying Season 5. The British media keeps repeating that, trying to make it so. It is false. All Peter Morgan did was delay filming for a few days immediately following QEII’s death. Here’s the thing about Peter Morgan too – he’s not even going as hard on Charles as he could have done. There are tons of historical records about Charles’s treatment of Diana which Morgan doesn’t even use. I get why, because Morgan is focused more on the broad strokes of institutional power and family dysfunction. But still, Charles should be f–king grateful that Morgan isn’t going harder. As for the term “muckraking” and whether The Crown is an exercise in muckracking… no, I don’t think so. It’s just not ass-kissy, which these people mistake for “muckraking.”
As for Harry and William… Harry has already said that he’s fine with The Crown and clearly, Netflix wants to “package” the Sussexes’ docu-series as some kind of companion piece alongside The Crown. Harry told James Corden that he views The Crown as “fictional, but it’s loosely based on the truth. Of course it’s not strictly accurate” and that he is “way more comfortable with The Crown than I am seeing stories written about my family or my wife.” Just FYI, people will put words into his mouth, so those are the quotes. I expect Charles will also try to convince William to say something about The Crown too.
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- King Charles III with Queen Consort Camilla inspects flowers and tributes left for his mother Queen Elizabeth II outside of Buckingham Palace, London, England, UK on Friday 9 September, 2022.,Image: 721052194, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: Please credit photographer and agency when publishing as Justin Ng/UPPA/Avalon., Model Release: no, Credit line: Justin Ng / Avalon
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- King Charles III delivers his address to the nation and the Commonwealth from Buckingham Palace, London, following the death of Queen Elizabeth II on Thursday. Picture date: Friday September 9, 2022. . .,Image: 721402925, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: NO UK USE FOR 48 HOURS- Fee Payable Upon reproduction – For queries contact Avalon sales@Avalon.red London +44 20 7421 6000 Los Angeles +1 310 822 0419 Berlin +49 30 76 212 251 Madrid +34 91 533 42 89, Model Release: no, Credit line: Avalon.red / Avalon
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- King Charles III and the Queen during the Accession Council at St James’s Palace, London, where King Charles III is formally proclaimed monarch. Charles automatically became King on the death of his mother, but the Accession Council, attended by Privy Councillors, confirms his role. Picture date: Saturday September 10, 2022. . .,Image: 721406196, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: NO UK USE FOR 48 HOURS- Fee Payable Upon reproduction – For queries contact Avalon sales@Avalon.red London +44 20 7421 6000 Los Angeles +1 310 822 0419 Berlin +49 30 76 212 251 Madrid +34 91 533 42 89, Model Release: no, Credit line: Avalon.red / Avalon
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- King Charles III and the Queen Consort at Westminster Hall, London, where both Houses of Parliament are meeting to express their condolences following the death of Queen Elizabeth II.,Image: 721928710, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: , Model Release: no, Credit line: Stefan Rousseau / Avalon
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- Britain’s King Charles III at the presentation of Addresses by both Houses of Parliament in Westminster Hall, inside the Palace of Westminster, central London on September 12, 2022, following the death of Queen Elizabeth II on September 8.,Image: 721936686, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: , Model Release: no, Credit line: Eddie Mulholland for The Telegraph / Avalon
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- Britain’s King Charles III at the presentation of Addresses by both Houses of Parliament in Westminster Hall, inside the Palace of Westminster, central London on September 12, 2022, following the death of Queen Elizabeth II on September 8.,Image: 721936771, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: , Model Release: no, Credit line: Eddie Mulholland for The Telegraph / Avalon
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- Britain’s King Charles III and Britain’s Camilla, Queen Consort listen as The Speaker of The Commons Lindsay Hoyle (unseen) speaks during the presentation of Addresses by both Houses of Parliament in Westminster Hall, inside the Palace of Westminster, central London on September 12, 2022, following the death of Queen Elizabeth II on September 8.,Image: 721936899, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: , Model Release: no, Credit line: BEN STANSALL / Avalon
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- Britain’s King Charles III speaks during the presentation of Addresses by both Houses of Parliament in Westminster Hall, inside the Palace of Westminster, central London on September 12, 2022, following the death of Queen Elizabeth II on September 8.,Image: 721936912, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: , Model Release: no, Credit line: BEN STANSALL / Avalon
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- The body of Queen Elizabeth II is carried to the Palace of Westminster, London followed by His Majesty King Charles III his sons Prince William and Prince Harry as well as Prince Edward, Princess Anne and Prince Andrew, September 14 2022. Thousands have turned out to watch the spectacleafter which the former monarch will Lie in State in Westminster Hall. There will be a short service upon the Coffin’s arrival at Westminster Hall, which will be conducted by the Archbishop of Canterbury.,Image: 722721802, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: -, Model Release: no, Credit line: Tony Kershaw / SWNS / Avalon
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- CARDIFF, WALES – SEPTEMBER 16: King Charles III arrives at Cardiff Castle to conduct audiences on September 16, 2022 in Cardiff, Wales. King Charles III is visiting Wales for the first time since ascending the throne following the death of his mother, Queen Elizabeth II, who died at Balmoral Castle on September 8, 2022.,Image: 723280480, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: NO UK USE FOR 48 HOURS- Fee Payable Upon reproduction – For queries contact Avalon sales@Avalon.red London +44 20 7421 6000 Los Angeles +1 310 822 0419 Berlin +49 30 76 212 251 Madrid +34 91 533 42 89, Model Release: no, Credit line: Chris Jackson / Avalon
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- WINDSOR, ENGLAND – SEPTEMBER 19: King Charles III and Prince William, Prince of Wales before the Committal Service for Queen Elizabeth II at St George’s Chapel, Windsor Castle on September 19, 2022 in Windsor, England. The committal service at St George’s Chapel, Windsor Castle, took place following the state funeral at Westminster Abbey. A private burial in The King George VI Memorial Chapel followed. Queen Elizabeth II died at Balmoral Castle in Scotland on September 8, 2022, and is succeeded by her eldest son, King Charles III.,Image: 724223940, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: -, Model Release: no, Credit line: Justin Setterfield / Avalon
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- King Charles III And Camilla Queen Consort visit Hillsborough Castle, Co Down, following the death Queen Elizabeth II on Thursday as the King continues his tour of the four home nations in Northern Ireland. Featuring: King Charles III, Camilla Queen Consort view floral tributes Where: County Down, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom When: 13 Sep 2022 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages.com/Cover Images **North America Rights Only**
“Petty, cold and deceitful” sounds about right. I think he has established that again in his actions toward H&M around TQ’s death and funeral and with his treatment in suddenly withdrawing security.
Hear, hear. This is someone who has never heard the word accountability. For as long as he has his consort by his side, he has to put up and shut up and stop this splaining and complaining.
It’s not “ancient history” since the woman for whom Charles dumped his wife is now widely referred to as Queen Consort”. If he wants to talk history, someone should tell him that a King’s side chick hasn’t gotten that far since Henry VIII married Anne Boleyn. In other words, The Crown is just being faithful to the historical record.
Absolutely right, Brassy. Muckraking,eh? Well, there is so, so much muck to rake! There’s at least enough for yet another series. The days are long gone when the common people don’t ever talk bad about their/a monarch. If he wants people to say good things about him, then he needs to do good things, if I get it, ]why can’t he? He’s made his bed and now lies in it, and people always going to talk about his bed.
Exactly! And we’re still talking about Anne 500 years later because she was nothing if not interesting. Camilla doesn’t even have that.
Does he need a sweater for the cold chill of life in Di’s shadow?
Charles was f-ing Camilla when he should have been a faithful good husband and now Netflix is helping people who didn’t know enough about it to find out . Karma is a bitch .
But isn’t that repeatedly the issue? The behaviour is not the problem, it’s daring to speak of it (see also, H&M). It’s a good thing they have so many (mostly stolen) pearls to clutch.
Dumb! Let’s add dumb. Most members of the brf appear to have mediocre intelligence at best. Charles is not even the worst, but he is not the artful genius he thinks he is.
Thank you. The man gets so much credit for intelligence that we’ve frankly never seen.
I often wonder how Harry ended up with above average intelligence. Was it all being in the army? The brain is plastic, it changes throughout life depending on circumstances. My theory is that Harry used his brain and therefore developed it. The rest of them didn’t and therefore… well, we see the results.
I think you’re absolutely onto something. Harry left the bubble and put himself into new situations with people who don’t just not and agree anytime he speaks. The others have not and we can see the results.
Petty, cold and deceitful is 100% Chucky’s character.
I hope he gets dragged from here to Kingdom come.
Whether or not ‘The Crown’ existed as a show the fact of the matter is that because of the current reality of the royals people are looking into their history and dragging out the full filing cabinet of receipts and questioning what happened to put Cam where she is today. This stuff was always going to come out no matter how hard or often KC3 stamped his foot.
At least the Crown acknowledges putting words in people’s mouths, given that it is historical faction, as opposed to the British Media, which makes up all sorts of sh*t and (tells you it’s fudge) pretends it’s the truth….
“ The worst element for the royals is that millions of people around the world will view this series and view it less as a drama and more as a documentary. And attention on the Windsors couldn’t be higher as it’s been just a few weeks since Queen Elizabeth II’s funeral and is in the run-up to the King’s coronation.”
LOL
Once again, the Streisand Effect is running wild. I love that for them, and for Netflix, which has a juggernaut on its hands.
This is fictional loosely based on the truth.
Is this response necessary?
If he did the necessary work towards healing and forgiveness thirty years ago, this would’ve been memorable event.
If there is guilt, get help and forgive yourself.
Live by the sword, die by the sword.
They live a completely unearned life of ultimate luxury, and the price they do pay is that their lives are up for public consumption.
I don’t blame them for being worried though. With all the upheaval in the world, and Brits not able to pay their energy bills, having these grifters living on taxpayer dime looks worse every day.
More Streisand Effect, all day every day from C-Rex and his merry band of fools who obviously believe consequences are only for commoners. Threats from BP don’t carry the same weight with the tantrum throwing C-Rex the Weakling. Bullying Netflix is a waste of time.
Didn’t the RF love The Crown prior to season 4? They really want Princess Di airbrushed and erased from history! Not happening! Anyway, I thought the release date for The Crown is Nov 9?
I really thought that season 5 would deal with the seperation, divorce, the War of The Wales’ AND the death of Diana, but it’s going to stop before they get to1997. There’s pictures of season 6 filming right now and they’re covering Diana that final summer before her death. So Charles will still have season 6 to look forward to and the ghost of Diana continuing to come for him lol
I mean, they kind of are? The Crown absolutely sensationalizes real life events and fictionalized some stuff to make good drama. So did Under the Banner of Heaven, any of what seems like 100 movies or series about Jeffrey Dahmer, so did House of Gucci or Vice or W. or Bombshell, or American Crime Story, or Feud. Your mileage may vary about whether you feel like these are tasteful or exploitive, or a mix of both. In many of these cases, the subjects or their loved ones were still very much alive to be hurt by their lives becoming entertainment.
So very narrowly, I agree with C-III that it is probably very painful, embarrassing and frustrating. But he’s the King, even if mostly a figurehead, of a nation that has so many bigger problems to worry about. The anger in Wales over those titles, increasing calls for independence from Commonwealth countries, Prince Andrew, how about the basic health, safety and happiness of British citizens? Why oh why does it seem like *all* the energy and power is directed at a TV show and stripping titles from children?
IN FACT, I would go so far as to say that Charles needs to worry a little bit less about what’s happening in AMERICA and mind his own backyard a bit more.
I would go even further, and say that Chuck should be grateful “The Crown” is only covering the last 30 years.
Muckraking? The royal family has so many skeletons in its past, dating back CENTURIES.
TRANSLATION: I spent 30 years trying to get the world to forget what me and Camilla did to Diana and now Netflix is going to destroy everything in 10 episodes!!
As for the UK rallying around the new King
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YUP.
Look, I agree somewhat with Miss Owlsyn at comment 14. I’m sure this is embarrassing and annoying and frustrating and I’m glad that my life isn’t portrayed in any kind of documentary or fictionalized series or movie or whatever.
But Charles needs to grit his teeth and keep that frustration to himself because he can’t stop it and it really comes across like the bigger issue is that Netflix is reminding the world of what the royals did to Diana (and its not Netflix’s fault that audiences are drawing parallels between that treatment and what they did to Meghan.) You notice we did not have these kinds of rants in the media after the first two or even three seasons.
Honestly Camilla’s response was problematic given the material presented (how she treated diana etc) but “she watches it with a glass of wine and laughs” is actually better than “omg we need to insist they put a disclaimer on it and this is muckraking etc etc.”
Seeing the two of them sitting as king and queen just looks so wrong
IKR? It takes a photo like this one to bring home how utterly uninteresting, uncharismatic, and unappetizing those two are. I don’t believe the Wails would be much better, but their comparative youth and Khate’s designer clothing would look so much better. I begin to understand all those calls to skip the present monarch and Queen Side Piece.
Camilla at least knows how to sit upright in a throne. Charles’ position in that chair is really not an image he should want in the public realm. Dummy. He needs to start worrying more about the here & now and stop whining about a TV show.
This is, quite literally: FAFO. Charles has always seemed very conscious of himself as a public figure and as an historical figure. I guess he didn’t think things through to their natural and inevitable conclusions.
I have no sympathy for him or his mistress, what they did was horrific then and now. If he wanted to be portrayed better he should have acted better. History and docudramas will never be kind to these two and beyond the shores of that island he has no control. I can’t wait for the new season Princess Diana deserves to be heard and the trauma they put her through should never be erased or forgotten. My god she was only a teenager when it started and they made her life a living hell until her death at such a young age, it is unforgivable imo.
When they became engaged and she was introduced to the world, Diana was only 18 yo, Charles was 33 yo, and Camilla was 34 yo. Diana didn’t stand a chance against them.
I love that Tampon Rex and Camilla the Tawdry are about to get so much of their abusive shit slung right back at their faces.
She was 19. She had just turned 20 when they married. Prince William was born a little over a week before her 21st birthday.
Exactly, The Crown already painted Charles and Camilla as some wretched Romeo and Juliet, torn apart from the powers that be, when in reality it was different. Camilla chose Andrew Parker-Bowles instead of Charles, and that was the driving decision behind their temporary separation.
The crown did not stress that Charles was involved with many women and left out the rivalry of dale tryon and Camilla and he had other serious relationships
Are there people out there that think that documentaries are filled with actors and nothing but recreations of scenes (except for maybe quick snippets like in news reports)? It bothers me that he is so insulting of peoples’ intelligence, but maybe that’s a common misconception?
I just feel like him complaining about it brings more attention to the show. And also, really, he needs to try to more above the fact that people don’t like him. You’d think by now he’d be used to it
typo–move above not more above
He can’t rise above or move on from his past abuses and grievances. I don’t mean that he won’t — I mean he CAN’T. And at 74 years, that’s not going to change.
His parents’ neglect, the bullying he got at school, the apparent lack of comfort and care he should have had as a child, the fact that he’s always been a sensitive soul — all of it has contributed to the creation of the profoundly DAMAGED man who sits on the throne now. This is just about the only thing that makes me feel a teensy, weensy bit sorry for the man. He really is the living embodiment of that axiom, “Hurt people hurt people.”
His second son had the intelligence, foresight, and self-awareness to understand that that’s no way to live, and sought help. He also had the support of an intelligent, self-aware, and loving woman. KC3 has a nasty woman at his side who supports him in his delusions and grievance, and asks nothing more of him. We can all see the result.
I’m not a fan of all of his movies, but loved Tarantino’s “Once Upon A Time In Hollywood”, despite Pitt. The happy, what if, ending.
He could do “OUAT in Kensington Palace”.
Diana still throws tampon cosplay to the curb. Someone punches out “drunk” chauffeur, Dodi and Diana decide to stay at the Ritz, which offers up a suite.
Last shot. Doria and Diana with Archie and Lili doing yoga on an estate in California.
Look at the Mighty King Charles, trying to control time and make us think the last 40 years didn’t go down the way they did, lol. He will have as much luck with that as he did with that ink pen. Sorry Chuck but we saw what happened, a lot of us are still around. Whining about it won’t change a thing. Better to hold on to your last shreds of dignity while you can. At least until Harry’s book (s) comes out.
The Royal Family loved the Crown until it got to Diana.
Too funny that he thinks an historical drama shouldn’t use the dramatic parts of history.
He is making this so much worse.
I just want The Crown to have at least one scene involving some kind of pen catastrophe situation and show Chuck having a meltdown like a three year old.
I guess no one should ever study history because it happened in the past. That would certainly benefit the monarchy. English historians (specifically English, not British as a whole) are way the heck too kind to their historical monarchs anyway, most of whom were monsters.
No one worries about The Crown more than Charles, lol.
Someone ought to teach king tampon about TIMING.
It would be one thing to say this AFTER the series aired. Saying it BEFORE it is presented only brings more eyes to the show.
Somewhere Babs Streisand is grinning merrily and side piece best put on a beekeepers bonnet! The rolls are gonna fly! Jam, ma’am?
Charles and Camilla ( or whoever is putting out these stories) are really hyping up the Crown. I’m almost tempted to start watching it again, just to see what the fuss is about! Probably not the effect they were going for.
I’ll also add that this “it happened so many years ago” crap is the exact same argument being offered by the daily fail in the face of Harry’s lawsuit.
If anything, the crown has been kind to Charles, allowing him to portray himself and Camilla as some kind of star-crossed lovers, thwarted by his family and his sense of duty etc.
I thought the ENTIRE justification for the monarchy is to remind people of their history? Well, this is Charles’ history.
Why dig up the past, Charles? Because it is the truth, it is relevant to your treatment of H & M and it shows us who you are.
Who who are they kidding? They have never been riding high in the minds of the public! Have you seen social media? They’re dragged all over the place! Riding High my foot – he just scared they’re going to get dragged even more🤣🤣🤣
Well Charlie Moneybuckets, we think that you destroyed one of the most beautiful forces for good the world has ever known, so, ya know, that still smarts. Even 30 whole years later.
Had Charles treated Harry and Meghan fairly, people would say that he has grown and changed from the days of his marriage to Diana. But he insists on showing the world that he is still cruel and petty at every opportunity.
Whether Charles likes it or not history is history-we still read and study the Boston Tea Party episode in history no matter how many years have gone by-a whole another generation all over the world have been born since Diana’s death-most of them will want to know what happened and why Harry and Will don’t have their mother to this day-like it or not King Charles this story will be told over and over for generations to come.