In many ways, I have an enormous amount of sympathy for Kim Kardashian. She honestly tried to make it work with Kanye West and she stayed with him a lot longer than she should have. She took care of him and intervened on his behalf during his manic episodes and breakdowns. She defended him constantly and publicly. When it was clear that nothing was going to get better – and it was clear she was basically enabling him – she made an exit plan to protect herself, her kids and her money. She filed for divorce in 2021 and they’ve been in a long-running divorce battle ever since, mostly because Kanye keeps hiring and firing his lawyers and trying to slow down the proceedings. During Kim’s relationship with Pete Davidson, Kanye’s creepy, stalker behavior escalated and I was genuinely concerned for her safety and Pete’s safety. Kanye thinks nothing of trying to hurt Kim through the kids too, and she’s already paying for additional private security at her kids’ school. Over the past week, Kim has let it be known that she’s sick of Kanye’s crap right now, but unlike all of Kanye’s manic episodes during their marriage, Kim isn’t stepping in this time:
Kim Kardashian has been through the ups and downs of Kanye West’s mental health episodes over the years, and while she’s stepped in to help in the past … this time is different.
Sources familiar with the situation tell us Kim has totally removed herself from the situation with Kanye … and hasn’t spoken directly to him in weeks. We’re told in times past, even when Kim and her family were the targets of his attacks — she’d be there to help him until he was mentally sound again.
We’ve spoken to sources close to Kanye who tell us they wish Kim was still in the picture to step in, but it just ain’t happening. Our sources say there’s concern Kanye could lose a lot of money while everything seems to fall around him, but there’s no safety net.
Sources connected to the estranged couple tell us Kanye has made attempts to reach out, but Kim won’t answer … instead focusing her attention on their kids.
As we reported, Kanye showed up to North’s basketball game last week wearing a ‘White Lives Matter’ shirt. Eyewitnesses tell us not only did Kim not speak to Kanye, she refused to look in his direction, and had her car moved in the parking lot in order to avoid any communication.
“Sources close to Kanye… tell us they wish Kim was still in the picture to step in…” Meaning, he’s not listening to his entourage so they want Kim to step in and do their job. Reportedly, he’s fired a bunch of people too. During their marriage, she was ride-or-die for him, she protected him and she got him help and got him out of the spotlight in his worst moments. Reportedly, Kim feels like Kanye doesn’t *want* her help or anyone’s help. So what is she even supposed to do? Pretend like they’re still married, so can he terrorize her again? In my view, Kim is doing the right thing – she’s looking after herself and the kids and letting him bottom out.
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Full support for her here.
Ye is a grown man. Fin.
She was waiting for this moment. It’s time. He’s pulled so much of this crap, and it’s only getting worse. As much as I don’t care for her or her family, I’m with her on this one. Time to focus solely on keeping her kids safe and sheltered as much as possible from his mania. I hope the kids have therapists they can talk to about this as well.
Are they an “estranged couple”? More like they’re “estranged family members”?
I am sorry but I can not feel sorry for her. She knew what he was when she got with him. He has always been angry and unstable. But being with him raised her status. Got her those vogue covers and Met invites and fashion girl status she needed for her brand. She got what she wanted out if this arrangement and now she wants sympathy because the angry unstable man she married is angry and unstable? I can’t stand this parasite.
A man is angry and unstable, but let’s blame and scorn a woman who has had enough and has children to protect rather than continuing to give power to the anger unstable man.
As for who used who, Kanye was damn near broke when he married Kim, pouring all his money into his go-nowhere fashion ventures at the time. He may have gotten her on Vogue covers, but she and Kris got his bank account up, the marriage raised his profile too, and provided him with a cleanup crew every time he did and said vile things during his manic episodes.
Please stop acting like this marriage was beneficial for one party only.
“She knew” that’s one of the phrase a victim hear “you knew before”.
There is no perfect victim, and I am not going to blame her.
@ geegeee let’s just say what you are saying is the only truth and she married him for his status or whatever, so are you saying she should stay in that abusive and draining relationship just cos he helped her ? They were in a relationship and they both benefitted it didn’t work and she has moved on . She isn’t responsible for his mess anymore and if she choose to help him it should be because she wants to not because she owes him anything cos she doesn’t. And yes she deserves our sympathy cos no one deserves to go through what Kanye is putting her through no matter who they are . It’s awful.
This this this.
Also let’s not forget *he* pursued *her*. For years. She didn’t manipulate him into being with her
Did she know, though? I’m not sure we know that’s true.
He is a narcissist who was obsessed with her. He probably love bombed and manipulated her, like all narcissists do. Also, did she know he had bipolar disorder he refuses to treat? We have no proof she did – I don’t recall him “always” being unstable.
After several years he must have known about his mental health issues. And yet she had even more children with him.
Ok, @Lolo86if, keep on with your internalized misogyny vis a vis your revolting victim blaming. Fix yourself with therapy, please. We will all be better for it.
Welp. The She’s Not A Perfect Victim train is never late.
Trains 🚂 pretty full right. Keep fighting Kim
No one is denying that Kim became a victim of her husband towards the end of the marriage, but I just want to point out that Kim SEEMED to be okay (or at the very least she tuned her head the other way) when Kanye bullied other people such as Amber Rose and Taylor Swift. But when he turned on her and her mom she did not like it.
Yep, that train is never late. In about 3-5 years, many of the same people victim-blaming Kim now but saying “I feel sorry for the kids though” will be dumping that vitriol on the oldest kid too. North West will be at that age where female pubĺic figures are expected to take responsibility for toxic and abusive behavior. Just old enough to be abused by “liberals” and “feminists” 2, 3, and 4 times her age.
@Otaku fairy – Speaking of the kids, it’s pretty rich when people say they’re “Team Kids” while attacking Kim, because for all her faults (and I’m not exactly a fan of hers, so I’ll concede that she has many, but that’s totally irrelevant here, anyway), she seems to be doing right by her children. She’s the primary parent and provides them with a sense of stability. If they’re going to make it through this ordeal with little to no lasting impact on their emotional health, it will be largely thanks to Kim.
@lolo861f,
Are you here from the post? the sun? the daily fail?
BE GONE.
This! The train needs to have some compassion a bit! Good luck to Kim and the kids
You hit the nail right in the head. Kim has a pattern of picking her boyfriends or husbands based on how much they will upgrade her socio-economic status and when they are no longer useful to her she gets rid of them. I give her a tiny little pass with Ye because he is a complete and utter nut job with a long history of racism, misogyny, bullying, narcissism, anti-semitism etc. Much to her disgrace she will have to deal with him for many years to come because they have four kids. The one thing I truly hope is that none of their children inherit his mental health issues.
Sadly many of the people I know who became bipolar in life didn’t show any signs of it till their early 20s. That may be a coincidence or it may be a pattern (I am no expert) but it could be a long time before they figure that out. And, so I really hope it’s not the case but if it is, I hope the kids get support.
My goodness, the treacle of your concern is underwhelming.
Lolo86Lf- oh the why did she have more kids with him when he was like this criticism…it never fails me with all the blaming the victim statements on here.
People who have no compassion for victims of domestic violence are nothing new.
He hasn’t always been angry and unstable. When he was getting regular therapy and taking his meds he was fine, albeit eccentric, and was an extremely talented person. However as his mental health issues escalated Kim kept trying, for the sake of their marriage and family, to get him back on track. That’s what spouses do — I’ve bailed out a few men I was involved with from troubling situations more than once. It’s called compassion so let’s not get into the “she knew what she was getting into and deserves this” mindset.
“She knew what he was… now she wants sympathy…” -@Geegee
“…all she saw was dollar signs. Now she gets to play out the victim…” -@FFS
This loaded, telling language pops up in the comments on *every* Kim/Kanye post. Kim IS a victim of Kanye’s behavior no matter how you feel about the rest of her life, she is not ‘playing’ anything about that.
What is it exactly that people object to about others expressing sympathy for Kim in dealing with Kanye’s behavior & its impact on their family? Is it because they don’t like her and want to see her punished by being denied supported in this particular situation? Is it because they think that sympathy directed towards Kim takes away from other victims? (the mythical perfect victims of course). Like, what do these people think is the negative outcome of voicing public support for Kim in her process of disengaging from an abusive partner?
In every Kim thread someone feels the need to post these types of ugly comments as though they are some new and super insightful take. And every time, people try to explain how that though process of disbelieving a victim you don’t like or calling them undeserving is damaging to ALL victims.
You should be sorry. This is the worst victim blaming hot take I’ve seen in a month. Really grotesque. I’m no Ks or K fan, but I grew up in an abusive home with addiction and mental illness and I will just say this is such a damaging and callous thing to say. You should either rethink and respond to this reasonable criticism, or delete/accept responsibility/apologize. Seriously, this is so abusive and grotesque. Work on your internalized misogyny, friend.
Those same anonymous sources who wish Kim would step in are the ones who go radio silent when she’s taking social media abuse by the incels, pick-me women and hoteps who blame Kardashian women for the downfall of black men, as though they are sorceresses who cause their addiction, mental health issues, and desire to bed minors.
Let those anonymous sources figure it out on their own.
great comment.
Amen!! I’m tired of people infantilizing this man and looking for women to clean up the mess. He doesn’t care about his legacy. He is choosing to behave this way. Let him. Those so called anonymous sources are only looking out for themselves.
Overplaying the victim hand is likewise infantilizing.
@”Ffs”: Nobody here is “overplaying the victim hand”, she is a victim of abuse. Period. Given the fact that you saw nothing wrong with making fun of people for defending Megan thee Stallion after what happened to her though, I guess this is no surprise.
@FFS How exactly is Kim overplaying the victim hand? This is such bs. Will you consider her to be a victim if Kanye kills her or the kids? That’s where this is going. Then you’re going to say but you didn’t know, you didn’t think he’d take it that far. Because you don’t really think she’s a victim. Kanye is dangerous.
This.
100.
Well said.
We women have to realize that we cannot save anyone who is broken. They have to fix themselves.
Kim jas tried numerous times to fix Kanye and it doesn’t work. Kanye doesn’t to be fixed. He has to bottom out. Let the chips fall where they may.
Exactly, women are not a rehabilitation unit for broken men.
I suspect that the robbery was a real turning point for Kim – where she ended up having to take care of Kanye in the midst of her own traumatic experience because he was having a breakdown and centering himself. Those kinds of moments change you. And yes, she had more kids with him because she knew she wanted more kids and she was THE parent anyway.
I have a loved one who had an unmanaged bipolar parent and when I was first hearing family stories about his antics they all sounded so hilarious. Years later, after he died, one of the things she told me was how conflicting it felt to be relieved that someone she loved was finally gone for good. He was a hurricane of chaos and destruction when he was manic and after years of trying to help him, she was just over it and ready to be done.
The quiet part to “She knew who he was…” is”so she deserves it.” and that is so, so disappointing y’all. Stop it.
Thank you Lucy! There’s always a reason she deserves it, right? She’s too cunning, too manipulative, too fake, too opportunistic, too immoral. Please. NO person deserves domestic abuse, full stop. Adding a “but” is why so many abusers get away with deadly escalation.
Exactly. Thank you for calling it exactly what it is, Lucy, even though people will probably make all kinds of childish and inaccurate assumptions about your motive.
I feel bad for Kim. Regarding the comment above saying she knew what he was when she married him, I disagree. I think it’s more of a case of be careful what you wish for. I’ve been in that situation where you put a tremendous amount of work into something, you succeed, and then it all goes to sh$t. She’s probably in shock over her situation and trying to do the right thing for her kids.
Zéro sympathy she used him stole his culture enabled his maga crap she’s disgusting.
And he and his abuse is not disgusting?
Nope, still not an excuse.
Why people feel the need to let others know that they do not have compassion for a victim of ongoing abuse & have no issue watching it cuz they hate the victim….is such a strange flex. American pastimes (shrugs)
@Sascha – She’s “disgusting” so what…she had it coming? Drag her for those things but not for being a victim of abuse. *That’s* disgusting.
@MC2 – Internalized misogyny on full display.
Stop victim blaming. Nobody deserves what Kanye has been putting her through. NOBODY.
The whataboutism and victims blaming trolls feeds on our reactions to their stupidity. @Sascha et al know better but they will never do better. @Sascha and cohorts’ posts are merely for their shot of adrenaline.
@sascha She stole his culture. You mean the same culture he degrades by wearing white lives matters shirts and stating that slavery was a choice? Safe to say I don’t think KANYE always cares about his culture.
I don’t blame her for a hot minute going no-contact with Kayne. And to the “she knew who he was…” crowd – when you’re being love-bombed and pursued, and then tied to this person you love with children, leaving isn’t easy. Abandoning your mentally-ill spouse when they’re abusing you isn’t easy. Protecting your children by staying isn’t easy. I don’t care who KK is IRL, but she is NOT responsible for managing a mentally-ill adult who is abusing her through the media, the courts and probably through the children. Stop with trashing KK for this, and maybe focus on the yes-men who are enabling kanye to be an abusive POS. (Source: left an abusive POS BP2 spouse, without KK’s wealth and status, recovering from CPTSD from the whole ordeal.)
A white lives matter shirt to his daughters game. Wow that is just awful. Their poor kids. He’s going to keep escalating to try to get any type of reaction from Kim. It sounds like she’s gray rocking. It’s going to get worse before it gets better. He’s got the fathers rights crowd worked up though, caping for him and for Brad Pitt too. If you need to know about the legitimacy of the fathers rights movement, just take a good look at the kind of fathers they support. It is all about men retaining control over “their” women through their children.
Sorry, all I took from this article is that the jumpsuit she’s wearing makes it look like she peed her pants.
I do not feel bad for her. Kanye is bottom of the barrel. I can believe both at the same time. Since this post is more about Kim that’s what I’ll focus on. Y’all constantly give white women a pass when it come to their racism and bigotry because they do it more subtly. When she said that “People just don’t want to work anymore” or something like that that is classic white supremacy lingo that they used to justify why black people (and other POC) are poorer etc. Oh and the fact that she is a walking minstrel show! Constantly recreates (air quotes) iconic photoshoots that celebrated black women. She walks around mocking and copying black women everyday but she gets rewarded for it and the black women who naturally have the features she cosplays gets denigrated for it. As for “she knew what she was getting into…” that’s crap. Kim and Kanye represent the two sides of the same white supremacy coin.
Kim doesn’t deserve to be threatened. You seem to be conflating a bunch of racialized issues with the awful fact that a woman is being violently intimidated. Kanye is a mess — he is mentally ill, not bottom of the barrel, and is surrounded by enablers that are using him. Nobody deserves to have their life and the lives of people they care for put in danger or vicious lies spread about them. I’m no Kim or Kanye fan but let’s not try to hide his frankly frightening behaviour behind a wall of hatred.
I did not say at all that Kim deserves to be threatened. She does not and she is right to leave him. I am a black woman so I am going to look at things differently. All I said is that I don’t feel bad for her. I do not HAVE to feel bad for her. I just don’t like when people use mental illness for Kanye and other men. Kanye is a horrible person regardless of race, creed etc. This post is mostly about Kim so I spoke about her more. Where was Kim when he was denigrating numerous black women? She has ethnic children who will see this. She’s supposed to become a lawyer but can’t see that she is a active participant in white supremacy. As usual on this site with the white feminism. It is fair to point out racial bias/blindspots because our society is built on it systemic racism.
Where was Kim when he was denigrating numerous black women? She was doing what all abused women do — they don’t react and fan the flames, they guard their kids and let the lawyers do the talking. And as usual on this site you will see us go after people who espouse, overtly or covertly, any hint of white supremacy. I’m not disagreeing that society is built on white supremacy, but this story is about a woman being abused by her ex-husband who is behaving like a monster.
I said what I said. I do not feel sorry for her. I can feel sorry for whoever I want to. As usual white women love to use “racism is bad but,” reasoning once again. Pointing out that Kim is a willing participant in white supremacy doesn’t negate that she is being abused. All these things can be true at once. I will ALWAYS point out white supremacy because it is normally the common denominator. We are never going to agree on this topic. Have a great day.
@Drusilla — your disdain for white people appears to be the more important issue for you than supporting abused women, regardless of their colour. SMH.
What do you mean? I have white girlfriends! Most of them voted for Trump a known abuser twice.
-When women *of all races* call out victim-blaming directed at a problematic abused woman who happens to be white, it’s “you’re giving her a pass bc she’s white.” Even when she’s already been called out for the problematic behavior.
-When women call out misogyny and racism directed at Constance Wu or any other abused WOC who made mistakes, it’s “Stop giving abused women a pass to be difficult”, even when her behavior has already been criticized.
But somehow it’s always OK to call out homophobia and racism directed at men, even when they’ve been equally imperfect. No “stop giving men a pass for those times when they used misogynistic slurs, wore/performed something from outside their cultures, got an attitude, etc.”
Poor kids, that’s all I’ve got. I wonder if she could send them off to boarding school. Or would she need his permission too?
Why punish the kids by making them go to boarding school? They have friends and family where they live now. Why alienate them? It’s not their fault.
I don’t know enough about Kim’s kids to say what’s best for them, but I don’t see boarding school as a “punishment.” I know someone who went to a very fancy boarding school in Santa Barbara, so it’s not like the only option is Connecticut. I can only say for myself that I came alive in college. The dreary unpleasant home environment I grew up kept me depressed. Suddenly living in the dorms, surrounded by peers in an environment that promoted academic exploration brought out the real me. Boarding school would likely have given me that gift earlier in life. Again, I know nothing about her kids or what they need, I just don’t see boarding school as a negative.
@ bettyrose
Just based on how the Kardashians are…they seem really family oriented. I don’t see Kim sending her VERY young kids off to boarding school. I don’t see how this will improve the situation. Some kids, I am sure strive in boarding schools but I am also sure some kids don’t. These kids were raised around a village of family members. I don’t see them wanting to leave all that. If boarding school was not an option before the divorce, it shouldn’t be an option now…and yes some kids see being sent off to boarding school as a punishment.
That’s fair. They do have a huge family, and they seem like happy kids. It’s also not at all normal in the U.S. to be sent away before high school. Do we even have kid boarding schools here? IDK. But dayum I woulda loved it. I’m still gonna say it would probably be healthy for them as teens to not be under Kris’s control at all, whatever that involves.
@ bettyrose
At the age they are now, I would say NO to boarding school. Once they are highschool age and want to go live away from home, then that’s a different story. I don’t think we can only blame Kris for being controlling. Kim is very much like Kris and will probably take over the “momager” role at some point. You can see it already happening.
People thinking they are all high and mighty and better than everyone for defending Kardashians. Doesn’t get more backwards than this folks.
@Jules: Nobody said anything like that. Funny how the women with the most puritanical hot takes on who deserves sympathy are always the first to play the DARVO game. Always whining about snowflake snobby girls. If anything, the prudes think they’re better than the women they dehumanize by calling trash, and can’t stand it when anyone deviates from that script. Even in a dangerous situation like this, people think their dislike of a celebrity for being plastic needs to be given equal importance. The self-absorption is something victim-blamers have in common with them apparently.
@Ffs — We’re don’t think we’re high and mighty, nor are we defending Kardashians, we’re sympathetic to the plight that Kim and so many other women suffer with this kind of truly vile abuse, then get more abuse heaped on them by the victim-shamers or reviled for black culture appropriation.
Are we defending the Kardashians or sympathizing with a person who was (and still is) clearly being emotionally abused? And moreover, cognizant of the fact that survivors read these comments and demonstrating compassion for all?
Lucy 💕 🖖
I think Kim was and is A okay with being with an ahole if that person isn’t an ahole to her. However, I don’t believe she “knew” what she was getting into. First, from the way she treated Rob’s depression, second bc she continued having kids with him after North. I don’t think before shit got really bad that she even believed in mental health issues outside of situational things. I’ll try to articulate that better: if someone loses a loved one and is sad, she’ll get that. If sometime seems to be living a perfect life and is depressed, she thinks they’re lazy. So, I think, when his MH issues started showing through, she just thought she’d talk him out of it and didn’t realize he was dealing with a real disease that requires professional help.
That being said, I’m glad she is stepping away. It seems she’s starting to get it now. She cannot help him. He needs to help himself. I don’t know if he knows he needs help or not but she can’t do anything for him anymore and she needs to protect herself and her children.
You make goood points here. I remember when Rob was going through his mental health issues, Kim was tough on him. She said she didn’t believe in therapy. I wonder if that’s changed? I do think Kanye knows he has issues. He takes his meds, but he says sometimes he doesn’t. In order to get those meds, he must have seen a doctor who diagnosed him. I think people get Kanye’s mental health struggles mixed up with his personality. He’s always been a jerk, a snob, a “I know it all and you can’t tell me nothing” type of person. Kim is very similar in that way. Anyways, the issue with Kanye is he has a mouth and he likes to use it. He just recently said in an interview that Drake and Kris Jenner slept together ! The weird thing is Kris just started following him on social media again after unfollowing him for a while. Makes you think !
Drake and Kris slept together lmaooo
@ Pointillist
According to Kanye lol.
I don’t think she’s a very intelligent or deep thinking person either.
She wanted 4 Black kids and got them regardless of the cost and she also has traditional values. I’m glad she saw sense and got a divorce. She also is very much concerned with how she looks so that’s why she goes on about them still being a family.
Having said that she doesn’t deserve the abuse before one of these white celebitchy feminists come for me. She had the later kids through surrogate which isn’t really fair to the kids as it was clear what Kanye was like by the later kids.
What Kim did or did not know during her marriage doesn’t matter. I don’t care for Kim and I have my issues with her parenting separate from this. Right now, I think she’s doing the best she can. She’s keeping her kids safe from Kanye and that’s important. The fact Kanye has people in the media who are trying to guilt trip Kim into “saving” him is disgusting. The media really needs to do a better job about not giving abusers platforms.
Not a fan of the K/J’s, but she can’t “step in” every time he spirals. This isn’t like Jennifer Garner supporting and actively helping Ben Affleck post-divorce when he needed to get sober. This is a MUCH taller order.
Yep. And Jen got called a doormat for it. It’s almost like women can’t win no matter what we fucking do to help the men in our lives who won’t help themselves.
I’ve never watched KUWK but It’s always struck me that Kim has clearly behaved w/the kids interests in mind, I give her huge points for navigating an extremely difficult situation with grace. Ive dealt with a divorce from a narcissist and it is emotionally& physically draining. She’s shown time and time again that she’ll stuff down her own trauma to benefit her children. She gets nothing but kudo’s from me
It’s sad to read that people think she deserves what Kanye has done because she is this and that. She doesn’t deserve his abuse , no matter what. It’s not her responsibility to rescue him. She tried and he did not want her help.
I just found out that my brother who I love was physically abusing his wife on top of verbally. I knew the verbal abuse and told her to get out to leave him and she would not. I was honestly disgusted with my bother. They finally divorced but then she went back with him. I never blamed her , just advised her again to leave him because he would not change. She did not deserved to be abused not even if she went back again and again, who knows what he told her. Narcissist are the best manipulators. I’m sure Kim fell for his crap again and again.
Can’t say I blame her. There’s only so much you can do for someone else. They BOTH knew what they was getting into by getting married to each other and having kids’. Neither is innocent. But Kim is doing the better job by just keeping silent.
I think Kim has a good support network, which is crucial. She must have professionals of all types working with her and advising her, which is also very good. What a terrifying experience for her, especially since she has to maintain what, neutrality, normality when the kids and she talk about their Dad? I wouldn’t want to be her for anything in this world.
Story time.
My mom married my dad. She had a child. Dad exhibited abusive behavior and she had 3 kids after, including my twin who was killed because of my dad’s actions.
What people need to understand is that the caregiver will be at fault because after seeing the signs and due to ignorance (not a slur but lack of understanding), the caregiver is supposed to protect the next generation.
What tends to happen is while people celebrate how Kimberly is raising her kids, the kids already have scars. It’s even worse because it’s public knowledge of all the mess. I have some of my dad’s traits in me and it was taught as a child that I was the worst. Who’s to say those kids won’t struggle? That if the exhibit certain traits that they’re compared to the worst in their parents?
Honestly I’d rather that I didn’t exist if it helped my mom get the help she needed. She had me, per her words, to ensure she didn’t feel alone and that he wanted it to happen. There’s a complexity in those feelings.
I’m team kids. You can say they are well adjusted but trust…they are not.