It continues to be WILD to watch the fashion community, the Hollywood community, the media community and the common sense community pull away from Kanye West. Kanye’s recent antisemitic rants and hate speech are the proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back, but again, his hateful rhetoric has been happening for years. In 2018, he ranted about how slavery was a “choice.” In the same year, he went berserk in the Oval Office, ranting about all kinds of bonkers sh-t in front of the Washington press corps. His misogyny is the throughline for his career and public persona, but it’s absolutely gotten worse in the past five years. My point is that Kanye has been canceled for many of us for years already, so why did it take this long for Balencaiaga, Anna Wintour and CAA to cut their ties? They were all fine with racism, misogyny, bullying, harassing, stalking, threatening and unmedicated manic episodes playing out publicly. But antisemitism is where they draw the line.
The fallout facing the rapper formerly known as Kanye West has continued to grow as one of Hollywood’s biggest agencies stopped representing him. CAA ended its relationship with Ye this month following his recent anti-semitic outbursts in various interviews, according to a person with knowledge of the situation who was not authorized to speak publicly.
CAA is the latest business to scrap or suspend its relationship with the rapper over his remarks. Other leading entertainment industry figures including Endeavor CEO Ari Emanuel called on all companies that work with the musician to cut ties with him after he tweeted he wanted to go “death con 3″ on Jewish people.
“Those who continue to do business with West are giving his misguided hate an audience,” Emanuel wrote in a recent opinion piece in the Financial Times. “There should be no tolerance anywhere for West’s anti-Semitism.”
Emanuel called for Apple and Spotify to stop streaming Ye’s music and Parler to not sell to him. The right-wing social media platform recently announced that it had entered into an agreement to sell the company to West. Emanuel noted in his opinion piece that WME clients LeBron James and Maverick Carter cancelled an episode of “The Shop: Uninterrupted” because Ye “continued to repeat dangerous stereotypes during filming.”
Emanuel’s position drew support from colleagues. On Sunday, United Talent Agency CEO Jeremy Zimmer sent a note to staff to “please support the boycott of Kanye West.”
“As a company we stand for a wide diversity of voices and ideas,” Zimmer wrote. “But we can’t support hate speech, bigotry or anti-semitism.”
Other Hollywood companies were also ending their business ties with the musician. On Monday, film and TV producer MRC said it is not proceeding with distribution of its documentary about Ye.
“We cannot support any content that amplifies his platform,” MRC executives said in a statement. “The silence from leaders and corporations when it comes to Kanye or antisemitism in general is dismaying but not surprising. What is new and sad, is the fear Jews have about speaking out in their own defense.”
Sure. Kanye needed to be canceled years ago, so better late than never. I’m glad that people are finally waking up to the fact that they were f–king enabling this man for years. What sucks about this is that Kanye is still deep into his unmedicated manic episode, and he’s already processing these developments as “proof” of his cultural martyrdom, like he’s the only visionary who ever thought “hey, I’ll just blame everything on Jewish people.”
This just happened this morning too – Adidas finally cut ties with Kanye, after facing significant pressure online and from the industry. Kanye thought that Adidas wouldn’t do it, but here we are.
Worse yet, Kim Kardashian finally condemned her ex without even writing his name:
Hate speech is never OK or excusable. I stand together with the Jewish community and call on the terrible violence and hateful rhetoric towards them to come to an immediate end.
— Kim Kardashian (@KimKardashian) October 24, 2022
Photos courtesy of Backgrid, screencap courtesy of Fox News.
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- Paris, FRANCE – Kanye West sports busted lip and bruises as he arrives to the Givenchy Show duringg Paris Fashion Week – Womenswear Spring/Summer 2023 Pictured: Kanye West BACKGRID USA 3 OCTOBER 2022 BYLINE MUST READ: Dede / BACKGRID USA: +1 310 798 9111 / usasales@backgrid.com UK: +44 208 344 2007 / uksales@backgrid.com *UK Clients – Pictures Containing Children Please Pixelate Face Prior To Publication*
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- Paris, FRANCE – Kanye West sports busted lip and bruises as he arrives to the Givenchy Show duringg Paris Fashion Week – Womenswear Spring/Summer 2023 Pictured: Kanye West BACKGRID USA 3 OCTOBER 2022 BYLINE MUST READ: Dede / BACKGRID USA: +1 310 798 9111 / usasales@backgrid.com UK: +44 208 344 2007 / uksales@backgrid.com *UK Clients – Pictures Containing Children Please Pixelate Face Prior To Publication*
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- Paris, FRANCE – Kanye West sports busted lip and bruises as he arrives to the Givenchy Show duringg Paris Fashion Week – Womenswear Spring/Summer 2023 Pictured: Kanye West BACKGRID USA 3 OCTOBER 2022 BYLINE MUST READ: Dede / BACKGRID USA: +1 310 798 9111 / usasales@backgrid.com UK: +44 208 344 2007 / uksales@backgrid.com *UK Clients – Pictures Containing Children Please Pixelate Face Prior To Publication*
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- Thousand Oaks, CA – Controversial rapper Kanye West appears to be in a bad mood while arriving at his daughter North’s basketball game in Thousand Oaks. It was recently announced that Balenciaga would be severing ties from Kanye after his recent offensive statements! Pictured: Kanye West BACKGRID USA 21 OCTOBER 2022 USA: +1 310 798 9111 / usasales@backgrid.com UK: +44 208 344 2007 / uksales@backgrid.com *UK Clients – Pictures Containing Children Please Pixelate Face Prior To Publication*
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- Thousand Oaks, CA – Controversial rapper Kanye West is all smiles as he exits his daughter North’s basketball game in Thousand Oaks. It was recently announced that Balenciaga would be severing ties with Kanye after his recent offensive statements! Pictured: Kanye West BACKGRID USA 21 OCTOBER 2022 USA: +1 310 798 9111 / usasales@backgrid.com UK: +44 208 344 2007 / uksales@backgrid.com *UK Clients – Pictures Containing Children Please Pixelate Face Prior To Publication*
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- Los Angeles, CA – Kanye West stops to chat with the paparazzi and sign autographs as he exits his daughter North’s basketball game in Thousand Oaks. Pictured: Kanye West BACKGRID USA 21 OCTOBER 2022 USA: +1 310 798 9111 / usasales@backgrid.com UK: +44 208 344 2007 / uksales@backgrid.com *UK Clients – Pictures Containing Children Please Pixelate Face Prior To Publication*
I think Kim has got to be really careful – if she names him he might do something awful to her.
If I were Kim, I would be tripling security and asking a judge for an emergency restraining order. His whole world is collapsing and he is not well…we know all too well what men in this situation are capable of. I hope everyone gets the help they need in the coming months, especially Kanye.
I imagine her security and the security of all her family members is super tight these days.
Unfortunately, restraining orders are useless. They only work if people fear the consequences. Kanye clearly doesn’t.
I understand that restraining orders are only worth the paper they are printed on, but hopefully something along those lines aids her in physically and legally protecting the the children to the fullest extent possible.
True, restraining orders are just a piece of paper and if someone is determined to disregard it they will. No argument there. They are useful for making things like contacting a person directly or indirectly, driving by their house, sending tons of texts, etc a crime that prior to the restraining order wouldn’t be. In most states a person who violates a restraining order is arrested. The more times they violate it, the more times they are arrested and charged with crimes. Violate it enough times and you have felonies. Yes, they are just a piece of paper but they have legal power in criminal court and legal impact in civil/family court. The legal part is the “protection” they offer. They don’t offer tangible safety though.
I agree with this 100%
I do not wish to trigger anyone nor would I ever wish to add fuel to the racism and structures of racism around black men, perpetuating the mistaken idea they are violent.
I am concerned about how Ye is seeing and speaking about Kim’s world as dangerous for the children, away from God etc
How he views their education, living situation and influences as all being wrong.
He sees himself as head of the family. Sent by God etc. And this may mean he needs to feel he has to act. He may give himself permission to.
His status being destroyed, his revenue being destroyed will be hugely damaging to his functioning and ego.
He will want control and to be in charge of the children and perhaps Kim.
This could be a high point of danger for the family. I hope they are safe and see him as potentially dangerous in this situation.
His rants about Kim “always being his wife” since “a divorce is just a piece of paper” and that he’s “the priest of that family” (I’m paraphrasing here), set off my teeth on edge. That is the language of abuse. They’re the things a person might say before walking right through an order of protection.
His rants about Kim “always being his wife” since “a divorce is just a piece of paper” and that he’s “the priest of that family” (I’m paraphrasing here), set my teeth on edge. That is the language of abuse. They’re the things a person might say before walking right through an order of protection.
Very much this. I don’t blame Kim for treading lightly right now.
Now all those people cancelling him should stop streaming his songs on Spotify, because he’s still in the daily Top 10. Same goes for those “popular music” playlists that include him.
Discover some new artists, I beg. Try music from continents you usually don’t listen to. Am assuming people here are already doing that, so is not @ anyone here, but just in general.
Make some recommendations 🙂
I don’t think I listen to anyone in that genre that everyone wouldn’t already know, but I’ll say Priscilla Renea / Muni Long.
I will when I get home 🙂
But the fun to is to do it yourself. I found most by just searching words from another language or just “Argentinian music”. You’ll get playlists that I just add random songs from to my own playlists.
Then, I just listen to and enjoy my playlists and remove anything I don’t like.
I noticed that I started liking or even loving some songs after a few listens. It works the same as people loving songs that get a lot of radio exposure: because you hear it a lot. Only most of these artists don’t get even 1% the exposure.
It’s lots of fun :). And my playlists are still growing. Just adding more when I’m in the mood.
Hello!!
I play weekly on Mixcloud! It’s free and I’ve got sets from all over the genre spectrum. 😎 my taste in music ranges from “you must listen to don’t judge me!” 😆
https://www.mixcloud.com/dr_grrl/
I play weekly on Mixcloud and try and highlight female artists and music from around the world! Mixcloud is free and if you’d like to chat during a live set, create an account. They pay artists and have a pretty good community.
https://www.mixcloud.com/dr_grrl/
And when is Fox News and Tucker Carlson getting canceled for airing that garbage?
Better late than never but it seems like they are just jumping on the bandwagon — like, they were all totally fine with the racism, sexism, and bullying for years?
That says a lot about what the entertainment and business worlds think of women and POC.
i felt for Kanye before bc this man clearly is battling some dark demons and is clearly having mental health issues. BUT this has been going on for so long and everyone, including those with psychiatric conditions, are responsible for their own actions and words. there’s only so much your family, friends and support can do for you, and the rest is on you. i hope this man gets some much needed help. i also hope he doesn’t cause more damage to his family or anyone close to him.
Deservedly so, however, I wish they would do the same for the likes Pitt etc.
I mean good that this is finally happening but it’s also a horrible reminder that most of the time the opportunity to make $£€ still trumps (no pun intended) morals and doing the right thing. We still have a long way to go and seeing the ever growing far-right pushback I’m not sure we’ll get there.
Co-signing this observation 10000%
Agreed. I think Adidas was looking for any way they could NOT to cut ties. But they are a German company, an unsavory past resurfaced over the weekend, including a 70’s pic of a family member. It didn’t help that the guy just happened to be named Adolf.
Yeah, the cancellation bandwagon is now rolling into town but I agree it’s VERY late. Personally, I am genuinely baffled as to how the hell this man has become as rich and famous as he has. I saw him live once about five years ago – he was appallingly, comically bad. I’ve never read anything about him that indicated intelligence or deep thought even before he fell off his medication wagon and as countless others have posted, mental illness doesn’t make you a jerk.
Like WTF? He should be allowed to fade into obscurity.
I saw him perform in 2005 and he was incredible. Full of energy, charisma and talent. He blew everyone away (and he wasn’t a superstar then). Unfortunately he has squandered that talent and energy since.
i think his story is really sad. you should watch “Jeen-yuhs” documentary. The first part documented his early career where he had so much drive and creative talent and how he just pushed himself in the really difficult music industry to gain recognition. He seemed like a really talented driven guy that just loved making his music and talked fondly of his mom. couldn’t help but like him then. Then we see him become a “superstar” and everything just goes downhill. mental health issues take hold and he just warps into this monster we see now.
@Snoozer and @hangonamin – thank you – good to hear there was talent and, as you say, really sad it’s ending like this. Thanks for the recco on “Jeen-yuhs” – I’ll check out.
While I see the point of what you’re saying, I don’t find his story sad. His anti-semitic views were probably extant even when he had the drive and the creative energy. That was a time at which expressing such views would have created significant backlash for his career; in the meantime, anti-semitic attacks have increased exponentially and were normalized during the Trump administration. Kanye, supported by Trump who further magnified his statements, have made anti-semitic attacks socially acceptable. The signs and actions of the people over the 405 in LA last weekend show this. It’s only going to get worse because these people feel emboldened.
There are millions of people who have mental health issues who do not espouse anti-semitism. Kanye doubled down on his statements, which show clear intent.
I think this is a lot like R Kelly’s continued success that continued for a long time after he was indicted for child porn/child molestation – and most of his targets were young Black girls & women. The fans (and in Kelly’s case, community churches) rallied around & kept buying what Kelly/Ye selling so as long as what they said & did started undermining not only their profitability but also started the guilt by association impact to companies, nothing was going to change. To be honest, I’m not so sure that Kanye’s really canceled for this
Mel Gibson’s reputation as an abuser and antisemite is well known, heck it may even be some of the reason he still has support & fans but he was barely “canceled” Nick Cannon is none the worse for wear after his antisemitic diatribes. Morgan Wallen’s (the country singer) sales increased after his racist comments. As long as there are enough people supporting racist/misogynistic/antisemitic/islamophobic/anti-LGTBQ xenophobes and paying money to do it, a rich famous person will have to piss off enough people across the board before anything is done about it.
I am glad he’s finally being held accountable. But it’s very telling that the line wasn’t drawn at white lives matter/ slavery was a choice. Anna wintour and baz whatever his name is even tried to “ mediate” and film the meeting they set up between Kanye and the black woman at vogue he attacked. And I wonder if gabby even had a choice, did she have to sit down with Kanye because Anna still thought he was worth protecting even after he had demonstrated his anti blackness yet again .
I also cosign this 10000%.
I saw this tweet on black tweeter and I think it makes alot of sense.
“ They have a hard line, we don’t. Black people would feel a type of way of white people called out someone for being anti thier own race. He could announce a tour Today and a new album and it would sell out. 😒😒😒 we can’t get mad at them having a boundary and sticking with it”
It’s about time!
Kanye needs a conservatorship stat, but we all know that doesn’t happen to men. Instead, we get to watch him publicly ruin his own life and livelihood in a sadly spectacular fashion.
Trying hard to fight the natural feelings of Schadenfreude with this clown.
He was not dropped because he said appalling antisemetic things. He’s made anisemetic statements for years.
He was dropped because hes hateful antisemetic diatribes inspired people to go out terrorize jewish people in his name. look into what happened in LA last weekend.
That part. It finally reached a tipping point where it started f*cking with their money. That’s it.
This. Antisemitism is so overlooked and downplayed, especially in America, despite it often being step number one in the white nationalist playbook. Anna Wintour and her cronies have overlooked antisemitic incidents for years, especially when it serves their interests (see: John Galliano).
“But antisemitism is where they draw the line.” @Kaiser I ask you to rethink the phrasing at the top of the post. The man has been saying antisemetic stuff for years. The line is “when it starts to impact the bank account”.
Exactly. One of his most famous songs, Flashing Lights mentions papparazzi and how he “hates them more than the Nazis.” Been there forever.
This f’ing guy… he’s dangerously unwell.
He thought all these people wouldn’t drop him, but they did (finally).
I’m still not happy with Adidas. They took that long?? They’re a German company, for crying out loud. They know this history up close.
It’s terrifying that an idiot with this much influence can say these things and then the next day there are lunatics on the 405 fwy hanging banners agreeing with him and raising their arms in a salute with H|+ler.
I’m genuinely asking (& excuse my ranting post), how the eff did we get here again?
Those photos out of LA were terrifying
Shameful it took so long, but this is exactly where we are… taking too damn long to do the right thing. Should be America’s new motto. We took too long.
(White) ppl get very tentative when a POC is displaying racism towards their own ethnicity. But let’s be clear – A black man saying slavery is a choice is racism. You can’t even claim its ignorance because he grew up with family who knew how much that opression hindered and scarred the people in their community.
They should have denounced him then but were probably scared they’d take a step wrong. It’s much easier to call out when he attacks those who don’t look like him as racism. But it doesn’t change that he’s been racist for years and it bubbles up every time he has a health issue and the people in his circle enable that hate speech. Their biggest regret is probably that he isn’t attacking his own community so his pocket would still be lined for them to pick.
Problem is/was that Kanye still had a lot of support (directly or by staying silent) from prominent figures in the Black Community. All the people who still appeared on his albums, wore his shoes, showed up to his Sunday Service, his album release parties… had Adidas cut ties then, the backlash would have been massive. Jay Z recently gave him a verse in a song, Diddy never stopped supporting him, John Legend didn’t cut ties until Kanye’s presidential run I believe, Beyoncé and Rihanna never publicly condemned him and so on and so on. Had he not been that readily accepted back into the community, white people may have not been that quick either.
Even today, as soon as the news dropped, the whataboutisms started. And unfortunately many people seem more upset about his anti-semitism causing him to lose “everything”, than they are about his racism & mysogyny NOT costing him his business deals.
All this does is prove the point of how anti-blackness is minimized. And misogynoir especially. And yes- even in the Black community. Because TONS of people spoke out against him. And still do. And I don’t get the point of bringing up Beyonce or Rihanna. Neither of them has ever had business ties with him.
@Ameerah I mentioned them because they are among the most influential members of the Black Community, who both have personal ties to Kanye. Rihanna spoke up for Kaepernick/ against the NFL, but didn’t say anythinga about Kanye. Beyoncé, likewise, has used her platform to speak against violence perpetrated against Black people, especially Black Women, but she didn’t condemn Kanye either.
Ps. Both have songs that feature him, therefore they actually are in business with him. They directly profit from his contribution, however much or little.
@Maddy so what white artists have you called out after his anti-Black statements? Paul McCartney worked with him on a song as well (the same song he’s on with Rihanna to be exact). So has Thirty Seconds to Mars, Lykke Li, etc.
My point is if you’re going to have this energy it should have always been there. Rihanna worked with him in 2012. A DECADE ago. Beyoncé cut ties with him years ago as well.
I don’t think anyone was OK with Kanye’s racism. But there was no black equivalent of Ari Emmanuel writing an opinion piece in a business news leader calling on companies to stop working with him. With corporations, money does come first. Massive pressure is need to make them put values first, especially in situations where putting values first could raise its own media firestorm (i.e., Kanye would have accused them of racism, and without black power brokers first calling for him to be ostracized by businesses, they would have felt unsafe from a PR perspective).
So in other words: lots of folks were okay with ignoring his anti-blackness and racism…until it directly affected them. Which is EXACTLY Kaiser’s point. So yes – they were okay with it.
No they were ok with Kanye’s racism.
So this is what it finally takes to get people like Anna Wintour to be done with him. I always wondered where the line was – not that his latest vomit wasn’t inexcusable. Hopefully he walks his toddler version of Hunter boots out and we don’t hear from him again.
“Hopefully he walks his toddler version of Hunter boots out and we don’t hear from him again.”
Uh, Mel Gibson would like to have a word with you about that — but he’ll have to call you later. Seems he’s too busy making movies right now.
Sad, but true.
Maybe. But Mel is a white man. They are given more opportunities than the rest of us.
Look at his statements and public behavior the last few years.
If Britney needed meds and a conservatorship, Kayne does equally.
It’s about time his contracts are dropped.
I think it is frightening how he has been acting.
Are all the people so sad and against cancel culture going to come to his defense? Dakota Johnson? John Cleese? Every comedian there ever was? Or will they remain silent this time?
Let’s not pretend Trump does not deserve to be canceled maybe even more than Kanye. But no Republican has the courage or moral character to do it because it impacts their bottom line (and risks their own personal freedom because they are compromised). And yet we sit here and accept that he should still be given a platform and his rhetoric should be protected by free speech. Cancel the Black man but not the racist white man who inspired him. Ok.
And Kim can kick rocks. Dining with Ivanka Trump? She’s more dangerous than Kanye because her actions cannot be chalked up to mental illness. Both those women represent the worst of society because of their influence and imperviousness to criticism or accountability.
Please stop equating mental illness with racism. Kanyes actions can’t be “chalked up to mental illness”.
Lots of people are bipolar that doesn’t turn them into white suprematist.
I’m not equating mental illness with racism. I’m saying people have excused Kanye’s racism and chalked it up to mental illness. Kim and Ivanka’s racism cannot be excused, not even by those who link the two. Wish you could have seen beyond that to address the larger issue at hand.
Thank you.
@Pilar, I pay as little attention to Kanye as possible, so, grain of salt. But I see what @ThatsNotOkay is trying to say because whenever he does say or do something that makes headlines which are pretty much unavoidable to anyone online and I end up reading them, I always, *always*, see many if not most people claiming “he’s off his meds; this is what happens when he’s off his meds,” etc.
Obviously I agree with you that he can be mentally ill AND racist, but for some reason, he really has been given a pass for a long time because, idk, I guess people who make money from him or enjoy his music use it as a convenient way to excuse his behavior away. And it is appalling that THIS is what it finally took.
It is really awful that his very public breakdown is blurring the lines between his mental illness and his bigotry/misogyny. He isn’t full of hate because of BPD but untreated manic episodes combined with ability to pay yes men to surround him are enabling him to carry on with minimal repercussions (until now). I worked with a student who unleashed anger at the financial aid office during a manic episode. Fortunately, campus health services was able to intervene before police were called. And ultimately the student valued his education so accepted treatment and got the condition under control. That’s the reality of BPD for everyone else. People are not enabled to go untreated. They meet reality quickly. This is a horrible
situation on many levels.
The best analysis I have seen of Kanye is this tik tok. He’s been gaslighting black people forever while sucking up to the white powers that be. He’ll come running to black people again now that all the powerful white people are dropping him. I am so fed up with people excusing him on the basis of mental health or “he’s free thinking genius”. None of what he says is new, he’s just parroting right wing talking points that been around for hundreds of years and was set in place to keep black people (and Jewish people down).
https://twitter.com/10thstreetblack/status/1578823506300542976?s=20&t=u2w27aeuc_oYL1qGI7TE4A
That clip is excellent and very educational/insightful. It adds such a layer of gross to his behavior. Intentional anti-blackness for profit… just damn ice cold
Everyone needs to see this. It’s true for Kanye. It’s true for Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Green. (Heck it’s true for every working class white American who votes against their own best interests because they believe white capitalism gives them privilege.)
SPOT. ON. Will be sharing this widely so thank you.
Thanks for posting Pilar. That is EXACTLY the problem.
I clicked through to the PageSix link about Adidas dropping him. Reading what he posted to Instragram (which might be triggering to some people), it makes me wonder why Instagram/Meta hasn’t deplatformed him as well. Although he may be giving Adidas reason to sue him.
I think his Instagram must still be suspended as there’s no action since mid-way through ranting/bullying a fashion guy more than two weeks ago. If someone could log in to the account it would have been deleted by now.
I hope Kanye better friends are able to get him the needed help. Personally, I’m not a fact of retroactive punishment hence I don’t think iTunes or Spotify should remove his songs. Leave it up to people to decide if they want to listen to Kanye’s music catalog. My personal choice on Woody Allen, I stopped watching Woody Allen’s movies
Fan not fact.
Not a fan of “retroactive punishment”? But how can you punish someone for something they haven’t done yet though? Unless you’re saying that what Spotify and iTunes are doing now amounts to censorship… I don’t know, and I don’t want to put words in your mouth.
It means she’s more into performative activism.
Then she can feel good about speaking up & still listen to his music in peace.
Then how are criminals who committed crimes years ago brought to justice? Say a man rapes a woman but the police are lax about following up properly. Then the woman either gets blamed or gets intimidated out of pushing for legal action. Years later forensic DNA evidence proves his guilt. Do you just shrug your shoulders and say…well that was then and this is now? Your “not a fan of retroactive punishment” comment makes no sense.
I was not taking about the justice system. I’m sorry for not making my point clear. I’m speaking specifically about Kanye’s musical catalog on Itune and Spotify. Yes, don’t put any new work from Kanye on any platform but leave the old musical catalog. I say the same for Woody Allen, Bill Cosby, and Michael Jackson. I use Woody Allen as an example in my original post. I find him to be a horrible human being hence I made a personal choice to stop watching any of his work. I’ve done the same with any artist past or present with views that do not align with my morals.
I used to really like him for the first few albums and then he was just ok to me, artistically anyway. Why people have called him a “genius” for so long is beyond me. He’s always been the type to get away with a lot purely because he was perceived as being a true artist. He should’ve been dropped a few years ago but at least they won’t let him get away with everything.
A couple of you are so wilfully ignorant about anti Blackness – you would deny that people still backed him despite his anti Black statements and misogynoir that goes back years.
Thanks to the rest of you
I agree with you what Kanye said about Jewish people is horrible but Kanye has been saying horrible things about black people for years . Not one company drop him the fashion community continue to work with him and support him Kim continue to support and stand by his comments about black peoples . Kim literally had a article talking about Kanye and defending him and lecturing the public about free speech. So Kim doesn’t will never get a pass for saying something now she and her family were ok with Kanye spew hate speech about black people .Its now that the fashion community and the public is outraged about Kanye behavior Kim and her family are willing to say something.
It is fascinating to watch Kanye get cancelled in real time for his antisemitic comments, but was able to continue to profit and celebrated after his anti-black and misogynist comments!
That says A LOT!!!!!!!!
Yep.
I watched a lot of his interview with Lex Fridman, I couldn’t get through the entire thing because it was just absolute insanity. Lex pushed back more than anyone else I’ve seen for obvious reasons and you could tell that Kanye was not happy and got super defensive and acted almost surprised. The insane things he was saying and the tangents he would go off on, the word salads, even his breathing was all just……he’s gone. There is no convincing this man that not every single thought he has is superior and every opinion he has is the right one. I mean he was talking about Kim having superior dna and comparing abortion with the holocaust.
His stuff is still for sale on the Gap’s website. I was appalled.
Seriously? The Gap has absolutely no excuse and should pull it all immediately.
Gap is no longer selling his line effective ‘immediately’… phew cause I want sure where I was going to get my shacket this season!
https://news.yahoo.com/gap-says-dump-products-designed-013056537.html
The things he’s been saying are terrible, racist, frightening. And he seems to be escalating in his behavior for a while now.
IMO, the fact that others are acting on his racist, threatening statements and then he gets more interviews and PR is dangerous too.
The level of violent behaviors in US is increasing constantly.
It has taken too long for the biz world to cut contracts with him.
Stop giving him a platform for his dangerous behaviors and statements.
Btw, Pres. Regan really made a huge disastrous mistake when he started closing down the mental health clinics and hospitals, all to save the Repubs $$. Look at the crisis in mental health care and increase in homelessness in the past 20-30 years.
@HeyKay Exactly! And a lot of Reagan’s policies were and still are very damaging to the US! Especially “Reaganomics” Did we learn? Nope. Instead of saying no more actors (or any person ignorant of how govt actually works), we doubled down and let an ignorant hateful reality tv host/charlatan get elected, instead of the most qualified candidate in history who just happened to be a woman and one who stayed with a husband who cheated. And many Repubs would happily see him elected again.
Lets face it, anti-Blackness is a lucrative market in many areas. Meghan is proof of that. The music industry, esp rap/hip hop thrives on it and especially on disrespecting Black women. No other race or ethnicity in the industry
are allowed to disrespect their own women the way Black men do. In rare cases, other men of various ethnicities in that genre can also.
Way too many people were okay when Kanye was talking sideways about Black women. I am glad he’s finally getting the boot, but I am kind of disgusted that no one realized Slavery Was a Choice was when most Black Americans were done with his mess.
Also why does this man have a freaking school!? Why are parents sending them there???
This tweet says it best
https://twitter.com/scottiebeam/status/1584892766290841600?s=46&t=HAMg_O462_WraDr1x6umhA
Yep.
Why would you send your child to an unaccredited school run by a guy who brags about not ever reading a book, despite having a mother who was an English professor? Donda must be rolling in her grave.
The fact that they require them to sign NDAs……so I am waiting for some terrible scandal we could all predict come out about that place.
Yes in Hollywood antisemitism is where the line is drawn. I’m Jewish so I’m well aware there are no space lasers or vast conspiracies, but it’s an industry where Jewish talent has masqueraded behind “mainstream American” names and themes since always. Movie credits are full of Jewish names behind the scenes but onscreen Jewish actors take fake names, play WASPY roles, and sing “holiday songs”‘written by Jewish composers that praise snow and family but are actually quite secular. The point is there are so many awful, racist, misogynist things happening n Hollywood, but the deep scars felt by the Jewish producers/directors/actors are where the line is drawn. Just ask Megan Fox who was just “the girl” in a movie until Spielberg thought she said something that minimized the Holocaust and took notice of her enough to have her fired. I’m not saying it’s okay that this is where the entertainment industry draws the line on someone who’s been saying racist hateful and abusive things for years. Just that it is in fact where the line lives.
So Kaiser’s point stands. Lots of folks were okay with his anti-blackness and misogynoir. And only cared when his hate speech directly affected them.
Yes, all of Hollywood. My point was only that it’s no friggin’ secret that’s the line. Even Trump treaded carefully on that one thing. Ye was untouchable and then he wasn’t. He’s an idiot.
Mel Gibson made a comeback so I suspect Kanye will too…?
Time will tell, although there’s a lot going on with Kanye. This is just one piece of it.
Mel Gibson is a white man. His comeback started before he even was cancelled.
That actually doesn’t negate @Bettyrose’s point though, you know, because Mel Gibson (like Kanye) was given a LOT of chances before he finally faced any consequences for what he’s been saying for years. Then, he just seemed to go too far, and when there’s video involved it’s harder for the public to overlook the bad conduct. Mel Gibson did end up facing consequences of a sort. He was given a “time out” which lasted a few years, and by then, I guess Mother Nature did the rest because he was no longer as young, or as fit, as he used to be. Even then, his gender would have allowed him to play leading roles for a decade more (while being paired with buxom, blonde, blue-eyed white women 20 years his junior, of course). Now, Mel Gibson still makes movies but he’s no longer doing it at the same tier he used to occupy and, quite frankly, I’m not sure whether it’s because of the residual effects of what he said or because his looks are no longer as marketable as they once were.
I must be the only person who doesn’t know his music. …and I’m not about to start now. He needs help for sure.
Oh no you’re not. It seems like a small club, but I belong to it too.
B.S
This man been demeaning blacks for years. Soon as he says a comment about Jews he is canceled. This why I dont do “cancel culture” i cancel who i want when I want. Not because the masses tell me to. I been done with Kanye. I beg my child not to by his shoes or pay for any streaming of his songs. Folks telling me he speaking a lot of “truth”. I argue dictators occasionally drop a truth bomb that doesn’t validate their behavior. Same with kanye. He may say an occasional thing thats true followed by psycho babble nonsense. He needs to be committed. End rant.
Not a rant at all, it’s a very accurate comment!
So it finally took some anti-Semitic comments for the world to cancel Kanye? I don’t understand what took everyone so long, I had never liked him and the incident for me the straw that broke the camel’s back was when he yelled at a kid in a wheelchair at one of his concerts to stand up (he had told the entire audience to stand up during one of his songs) and stopped the entire concert to single this poor kid out. He wouldn’t continue the concert until it was verified the kid was actually disabled and this went on for several minutes. Can you imagine how that poor kid felt, Kanye standing on stage and complaining he had never had to wait so long to do a song because the kid “wouldn’t” stand up? Once Kanye figured out he was actually disabled, he continued with the concert but he never apologized for singling the disabled concertgoer. You can take a trip down memory lane and read about it here (this was 2014): https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-ouch-29203790
It’s interesting to see exactly what finally causes “cancellation” (yeah, right) these days, isn’t it. How bad does it have to get?
Someone said recently that this only happens when your career is on the downswing (which is probably why nothing’s sinking Brad Pitt yet).
I don’t know how to feel about any of this because it will fuel his rhetoric and perceived sense of martyrdom.
I just listened to his interview with Cuomo. On the one hand, he is clearly not well. On the other hand, Ye basically wants to have the freedom to be an antisemite without people calling him out on it. He thinks he is owed that freedom by virtue of the fact that he is black. He thinks that he is being enslaved by commercial contracts and by people trying to put restrictions on what he can and cannot say, and that the Jewish people are basically behind it. It’s all highly offensive to both the Jewish and African-American communities. I walked away from the interview in utter shock.
I don’t know what the solution is for Ye. I don’t think this is something meds and psychotherapy can fix. He is just an awful person it seems. He is already rich, so I think that losing all of his business relationships will only make him more radical.
I don’t think Ye is as rich as he would like people to think. He sunk his own money into his brands. And now contracts are being canceled left and right so another loss of revenue stream for him. He may still be asset rich. But he is going to have to sell off a lot to get liquid.
On Cuomo, he insisted he is a billionaire mogul. But you’re probably right.
Kim, if you’re still married, have him committed!
She has addressed this as long as he is not threatning to hurt himself and others. There is nothing she can do legally. And I can’t listen to his latest spew. But it doesn’t sound like he is threatning to hurt himself or others.
Well, he threatened Pete Davidson, but as long as he only threatened, nobody cared.
Apparently Camille Vasquez dropped him over it too. Amazing how quickly one can find a conscience when reminded of male pain. This time Kanye isn’t a part of the marginalized community he targeted, so that’s also a factor in why people are responding this way.
I am not holding much hope he will be banned. I wouldn’t be surprised if he takes the same crisis PR path Ezra Miller did and say hey it’s not me its the illness! And get to keep their franchise and all the bells and whistle that go along with it. With a one sentence PR press release and go dark for awhile.
Going dark certainly does uh, help a situation.
Kanye doesn’t seem to think his illness is a problem, though. I think someone else wrote that PR statement for Ezra because I doubt they think they have a problem either.
I’m just curious of the creative way he plans to come back from this. It’s inevitable (see Mel Gibson, Chris Brown, Woody Allen, Mark Wahlberg, Brad Pitt). After disrespecting the black community he went on a Gospel tour and it appeared all was forgiven (not by me though). Will he release a ‘Star of David’ shoes? He stated he will not mess with his money so I know it’s coming. Insincere all the way and he is a joke like Gigi Hadid said.
It’s telling how long it took Adidas to say or do anything. I used to do communications for a huge corporation and being on the inside, it is even more shocking than you’d think it would be, how much they try to bury or avoid saying anything. (I got out as fast as I could, it was gross). But these big companies, their entire corporate comms policy is essentially how to figure out how they can get by WITHOUT communicating or commenting. They (and a lot of others) stood by him in his stalking, bullying, harassment, Trump meetings, because they wanted to see if it for the most part “blow over” (reprehensible, I know). The calls were growing louder by the day and I’m sure all they’ve been doing the past week is figuring out how much $$$ cutting ties would lose them versus keeping him on and the boycotts that would surely start. Also the fact that in their statement they commented how much money they’d lose…was that to try to make us feel bad for them??
Adidas has shares listed on the Xetra, they likely had to quantify the losses from ending the Ye related line of business under securities law, hence the info re economic exposure. It’s different than firing an exec.
It’s called paranoid, schizophrenia, or psychosis with bipolar. The prosecution delusions are common. He’s mentally ill and needs help. His paranoia against the Jews are just prosecution delusions.
He was dissing Black people, especially women, for a long time before he went off the rails as an anti-Semite.
He needs to take his f-cking meds, shut up and sit down. He could be such a force of good and he does this. My God.
Kanye is the type of person that won’t listen even if you care about him and or are related. I bet people have tried to help him but he won’t let them. And it’s sad cos he’s clearly having some kind of public meltdown and is alone cos EVERYONE is dropping him. I feel for his kids cos you know how little kids have to bear the brunt of all that their parents do and I’m sure they will be called slurs and what not. It’s all so damn sad. Kim should have probably committed him when she was still married but I’m sure she felt some type of loyalty still, it’s hard when you love a person and they are drowning and keep hitting away any life raft you throw them.
Watching the business world embrace Kanye for YEARS despite his bigotry, antiBlackness, and antipathy towards Black people yet drop him like it’s hot now that he crossed a line with Jewish people has been a huge eye opener for me.
I have a theory – there are far more important and influential jewish people than black people, especially in the industries he moves is. I could be wrong and I will stand corrected. Kanye has been all wrong for years, not just now.
That’s it for me as well. I wish the same swift end of business actions were demonstrated when Blacks are involved too.
He has been antisemitic for years. The talking point that it’s “only when it’s antisemitism” is false. Moreover, it’s a straight-up Nazi divide and conquer tactic.
I don’t know that the black community has united around making sure there are consequences for Kanye’s comments about black people. Black women worked FOR YEARS to get consequences for R Kelly for his crimes and they got some pushback.
Would note, Issa Rae is one of the only celebrities brave enough to tell Warner Brothers they need to ditch Ezra Miller, it seems like maybe white celebrities who claim to be activists need to get on that one but mostly they use their activism to sell consumer goods, from what I can tell.
I’ll keep this short:
YAY!!!! 👍🏽
Literally 4 days ago the Gap emailed me about Yeezy hoodies and I thought “Yikes.” I just retrieved the message from my trashcan and clicked the links, and none of them work, just redirect to the gap dot com main page.
Kanye has been antisemitic for years, just like he’s been misogynistic for years, and every other bigotry under the sun. It is not because of some powerful Jewish people pulling the strings and no one caring about anti-Black racism. In fact, that myth is a major talking point for Nazis. It’s divide and conquer, and the number of people here who are buying into it is completely frightening.
You are not immune to propaganda.
This whole thing makes me sad. My nephew’s father suffered from Bipolar disorder and took his life last year. I study psychology but I’m still inexperienced in the field and I didn’t understand Bipolar disorder very well and seeing Kanye go through this makes me think we know so little about this illness. In his mania, my nephew’s father went online and called a women on the subway a ‘b’ and I just couldn’t take that. He’d say other political things too and I was uncomfortable and upset and I took him off FB. Kanye’s manic commentary reminds me of him.
I went 12-14 months without talking to him and I regret it. He took his life Oct 2021. And here I am watching this with Kanye.
Sexism, anti-Semitism, racism of any kind, they’re all bad and NEVER okay. But Bipolar sufferers are in a strange hell. This could end badly. I have such a different perspective now. And my nephew’s dad, my friend, knowing he was in such pain just hurts. Trevor Noah’s recent words on Kanye are what resonate the most with me right now.
Kanye should be held accountable but also he needs to be helped but most especially by the people around him. If does all this while ON medication that would be one thing. But if you’re on the wrong medication or off it no two Bipolar disorder sufferers are the same and it does crazy things to the brain.
I’m still incredibly sad one year later. I was hard on “H” (as I’ll call him) as people are being on Kanye and it is bringing it back and I just feel guilty. Every life is precious. Kanye should be in a facility somewhere resting and getting his meds sorted, not on the public stage 🙁 .
Nope, I’m severely bipolar and pretty much every other affect disorder. It does NOT in anyway make you racist. Ever.
My two boys are the same, also NOT racist.
One of my son’s meds stopped working two years ago and had to be in the hospital for almost three weeks.
It was horrible. He was experiencing extreme bipolar psychosis.
STILL NOT RACIST
If you have delusions and persecution issues it’s going to be based on something you already think or worry about.
Being really manic only enhances what’s already there.
I’m not all a sudden going to be homophobic, transphobic, racist ect if I’m off meds and manic. Because that’s not part of me at all.
My problem is since I’m creative, I buy too many art supplies, I start new hobbies, I get obsessed and consumed with learning the new thing and researching tools and supplies.
I also will buy wayyyyy too many snacks on Amazon.
What I’m not going to be is racist
He’s on track to hurt someone. Kim, their kids, himself, all of the above…
He’s lost control, he needs control, he feels God-sent to be entitled to control, and that’s a dangerous, dangerous combination.
He has been out of control for a while. His concerts are a mix of music and rants which are derogatory to others, I was wondering when the bubble was going to burst. I am not going to applaud orgs for taking a stand because they were enablers who knew how he was but due to profit were willing to turn a blind eye. If Kanye was less public in how he voiced his comments I am sure a lot of the organizations would still be willing to partner with him because of profits.
As someone who had an ex who was bipolar with psychosis, some of this kind of thinking and behaviour could absolutely be part of this. My ex was fully functional (although a lot less racist and oppressive than Ye) but give him drugs and take him off his meds and….it was like a whole other person who clearly needed help. The thing that got to me more than anything were there were people around him that were enabling and egging him on which Ye clearly also has. I do think he needs professional help – I mean you are allowed to have opinions and be who you are but…I don’t know someone blowing a brand name this fast kind of screams to me other underlying issues. Hopefully someone intervenes before he loses it all, but then again maybe he needs to hit rock bottom to have his come to Jesus moment.
The big thing is in order to be racist and oppressing like your husband and kanye, it already is there.
It just really enhances it.
I’m not racist and I’m never going to be when I’m experiencing bipolar psychosis, because I’m not racist.
Having bipolar psychosis doesn’t make you hate unless you already do.
Also a big factor with Kanye is he does drugs, that can be a huge problem.
He does various stimulants. He has admitted he likes the mania, the quickest way to get there and stay there is some kind of stimulant.
I am very afraid for Kim and the kids
This is why we can’t have nice things babyyy
His “school” basketball players are uninvited to an important tournament. Poor kids are sharing some consequences for their parents’ choice to enrol them there.