One of the big, dumb Salt Island tabloid stories this weekend was an exclusive in the Sun, wherein Tom Bower claimed that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex would be or should be stripped of their Sussex titles because something something Harry’s memoir. Bower doesn’t know what’s in Spare, Bower hasn’t read it nor is he a mind-reader. He’s just a decrepit, nasty old man screaming at clouds. Somehow, that exclusive was enough to get him booked on Good Morning Britain on Monday, where he said some predictably deranged sh-t about how Meghan and Harry need to have their titles removed because their titles are the only things Americans care about. Which isn’t true. Bower also said some crazy sh-t about how Meghan is basically the ghost-writer for Spare, which also makes no sense.
Speaking on Good Morning Britain, Bower was asked if Harry and Meghan should keep their titles – replying: “He’ll [Harry] keep his princely title, it’s Meghan I’m after. His book is really Meghan’s. Meghan is the person who has dictated this agenda.”
Presenter Ed Balls countered that the book is by Prince Harry and not his wife, to which Bower asked “Do you think he’s read it?”
Bower continued: “Meghan has actually read every word. Meghan is highly intelligent, very sophisticated.”
He continued to slam the Duchess, claiming that Prince William, King Charles and Princess Diana’s brother Charles Spencer “saw through” her. He claimed the core of the Royal Family saw that “she was adventurous, [she] came here to make fame and fortune and go back to America, [she] is exploiting the royal title.”
“It’s Meghan I’m after” sums it up. As many have pointed out, these disgusting old men have been “after” Meghan from the start. She’s “adventurous” (there’s another label for Archetypes), she’s a golddigger, she’s too sexy, she’s too American, she’s too smart! When every single thing Harry has done and said for more than three years is all about the decisions he’s making, the work he’s doing, the fights he’s waging. Meghan is sitting in Montecito, raising her children and doing a podcast. Bridge trolls like Bower are desperate to engage her in any way.
White decrepit British men & their obsessiion with #MeghanMarkle is a national emergency at this point.
Christopher Wilson: There was hope that Harry would come back alone
Valentine Low: As long as Meghan draws breath, Harry won't come back
Tom Bower: it's Meghan I'm after pic.twitter.com/YMRkKjNiYY
— Alexis( sowing discord in the west) (@ArchewellBaby) October 31, 2022
Should Harry & Meghan be stripped of their titles after the release of 'Spare'?
Tom Bower tells @susannareid100 & @edballs that he doesn't believe Harry and Meghan should keep their titles if they want to make their money out of 'trashing Britain' and 'damaging the Royal family' pic.twitter.com/9sI83BDgcy
— Good Morning Britain (@GMB) October 31, 2022
'They're a different generation…Let them be.'
Historian Dr Tessa Dunlop argues against Tom Bower's comments by saying that people need to let Harry and Meghan be.
What do you think? pic.twitter.com/HGvsHeJZ8r
— Good Morning Britain (@GMB) October 31, 2022
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Now Meghan’s being accused of writing Harry’s memoir? Man, where does she find the time?
I’m surprised they’re not screeching she’s a secret consultant for The Crown
They’re saying Harry is. Ridiculous.
I’m sure they are saving that for a rainy day.
According to the RRs, Harry is a weak willed nincompoop who can’t think for himself, yet they desperately want him back. 🙄
This guy is as crazy as MAGAfolks.
Both of you are spot on, sadly.
Yes @usavgjoe. He claims to not lie even though he’s told a million of them. Logic defies him(much like other RR’s/commentators). Bower comes across like a contract killer/assasin you see in movies. His ‘I’m after Meghan’ isn’t that much different than the Pelosi’s intruder ‘Where’s Nancy?’. Only, at this point, his assignments have been to destroy reputations and incite hate.
In the past I’ve brought up Peter Oborne’s work on Bower’s book about Jeremy Corbyn(in honesty it had more to do with Bower’s lies about Meghan than his lies about Corbyn). Learned something new in this older tweet/thread of Oborne’s. (it doesn’t apply to Harry’s book that I could find) The publisher of the Corbyn book is/was? William Collins-Rupert Murdoch/News Corp. ownership.
https://twitter.com/obornetweets/status/1203750154861449218
Murdoch/News Corp. bought Harper & Row-creating HarperCollins. HarperCollins is the publisher of a lot. One of which is New York magazine (not to be confused with the New Yorker). The Cut is part of New York mag. The Cut interview with Meghan was snarky and disjointed. Maybe? Allison Davis took time off because the article she submitted wasn’t the article put out. Murdoch tentacles.
Sorry, not sorry, Bower. Harry’s wanted to write the truth of his story long before he met Meghan. Not her agenda and btw, you(Bower) wrote a book about Chucky Cheese 3 saying more unflattering inflammatory things than Harry has ever said. To my knowledge, Meghan has said very little.
Bower is on record as saying that he wants to bring Harry and Meghan down. What kind of author is that? Whenever he speaks about them he does so with a very sinister cruel smirk on his face.
A deranged idea – but if she did write Harry’s book, at least she’s had the advantage of actually knowing him and talking to him directly, unlike Bower and the rest of the “experts.”
It kinda follows though that all the concern about the book unfairly maligning Camilla is because Meghan wrote it as a hit piece on the RF’s top ranking spouse. That totally fits the wacko narrative (although when the book comes out and says nothing about Cam the backtracking will have to be like “because Harry put his foot down.”).
@Bettyrose – that’s even more deranged. The only thing it follows is the “experts” determination to make up stories that make no sense.
I’m not saying it makes any kinda sense, I was just trying to combine the two main narratives: 1. Harry is going after Camilla & 2. Meghan is driving the memoir.
The continued infantilizing of Harry is getting old. In order to drive the narrative that Meghan is a shrew they turn Harry into a helpless baby, buffeted by Meghan’s whims. The plan was always to get rid of her so they could have Harry “back”. But the plan ignores the fact that there are interviews of Harry years before he met Meghan in which his unhappiness and restlessness within the family are obvious. They can never get him back because they never actually had him in the first place.
They can ignore Harry’s previous unhappiness in the RF because there’s a generational history of royals being unhappy and restless. Royals are supposed to live with it. The difference in the equation here is Meghan.
Right on, brassy rebel! Whenever he had to do an interview, he would also make his disdain for the British press clear (even though he probably was told not to criticize them). But sure, everything changed once Meghan came into the picture. Keep telling yourselves that, guys.
But they’ve been doing this since they were both at Eton. Smart William, dumbo Harry. Part of the embiggening campaign. Always the rumors that someone else had written Harry’s exams.
I’m wondering if Spare will talk about Harry’s dyslexia, which was only diagnosed when he was an adult. Why didn’t his schools catch it? Why did they just let “dumb Harry” happen and cover up for his poor academic performance, instead of giving him the tutoring and help he needed?
Harry is his own man and somehow the family cannot abide that. I look at every move KCIII makes through the lens of motherhood and my heart aches for Harry. It absolutely aches for him. I know I sound like a broken record (because I have commented on this in previous posts), but Charles wanted a slimmed down monarchy. And there’s Harry–a completely independent man, working and supporting charities HE FOUNDED, paying his own way. What is the problem here? Isn’t self-sufficiency what every parent wants for their children? What galls me is that Charles could direct a positive narrative about Harry and Meghan, but he generally chooses not to. Yes, he has mentioned his pride about W & H and their support of the environment and he gave Meghan and Harry his best wishes in his initial speech, but he and the palace do nothing to counter-act toxic narrative that the British tabloids spew on the daily. If you have the power and the platform to support your children, you must use it.
@Kim: any healthy family would be proud of Harry. He’s accomplished so much in his life, and he’s willing to stand up for what he believes in. It’s only the toxicity of the royal family that makes Harry seem deviant.
But Harry and Meghan both grew up with toxic families and they have certainly bonded over that. And they can create a new family tree, founded on health and honesty and love and integrity.
Clearly that’s their thing: see “Khate being the calming influence to tantrum throwing Peggington”. Whether they like it or not, these monarchists are showing their hand (and the truth) too well: the monarchy is a bunch of entitled babies that can’t be trusted with adult emotions.
@Concern Fae
This constant rumor (because thats all it is, as theres been NO credible source of this info) that H was/is dyslexic is so annoying. We simply dont know the truth of that so yeah, if H addresses it in his book that would be great.
Interestingly, dyslexia has nothing to do with a person’s level intelligence. There are many geniuses who were diagnosed as dyslexic. I heard that Richard Branson was dyslexic. In fact theres research that shows that theres a co-relation between high IQ and dyslexia.
Kingston, Harry did in fact tell Jeremy Clarkson in 2007 that he had dyslexia and struggled in school. There was no mention when he was diagnosed. In some things I read it said when he was 17-18 he was diagnosed. Evidently while the bm was reporting that H was partying, he was working hard at school. Was he diagnosed just before he left school or when he went into the military, I couldn’t find in a quick search.
Honestly, I’m longing for a day soon when someone in the BRF is interviewed and someone brings up one of these statements then says, “considering what the infantilizing of Harry says about the RF and their competency to adequately prepare him, what would you like to say to those making these comments?” Then when/if they give a response wrap it up with “you heard it here! Bower, Low, Wilson-I hope you were listening!”
Very important points @BrassyRebel. They infantilize Harry to the point of ridiculousness. Harry has a very large network of people of importance that have connected with HIM. Pretty sure it’s not because he’s an infant or dumb@ss. Personally believe he was dumbed down to make TOB appear smart.
Thank you @Kingston. At different times in different posts, I’ve mentioned that there is no reputable source for the Harry dyslexia stories. Dyslexia is not a sign of lack of intelligence either. I’ve purported that family dynamics had more to do with Harry’s grades than intellectual skills. Also, believe that Will’s “grades” have been overstated along with Kate’s. When Harry brings it up-I’ll believe it. There is little to no reason for Harry to not talk about it at this point. Hey, Will & Kate’s favorite member of CoS, Tom Cruise, is a reported dyslexic.
the same people that said she was never really pregnant, that she planned to land him from the time she was like 11 years old, and on and on.
Maybe Meghan can do a podcast on “The Eve Complex and Man’s Fall from Grace,” because this idea that women can tempt men away from their duty goes back a looooong way.
Eurydice–yep, she should definitely address this disgusting trope. Especially as it is used to slam WOC.
Are the actual people of britain gobbling his horsesht? My god i’m happy those talking against H&M are not 20 years old. This hate era will have an end hopefully
Adventurous, smart, sexy. What you’re saying is, Kate is none of these things so she’s good to go. Why don’t people think before they speak?
That’s not what he’s saying at all.
Catherine is not stupid by any definition. Check out her A-levels results.
“By any definition” is doing a lot of heavy lifting. She may have had a mix of A’s and B’s for A-levels but she has no intellectual curiosity or drive whatsoever and no emotional intelligence or empathy either.
She can barely string a sentence together but okay…
Excuse my ignorance but is it common in England to equate a 40 year olds high-school results with their intelligence? Or is this just a Kate thing?
Have her results ever been verified? Or is this like Melania’s architecture degree and 5 language fluency?
@SAS right? That’s like saying I’m not stupid, I got a high score on my SATs. No one cares at 40 what you did in HS.
I actually don’t think Kate is stupid, I think she lacks intellectual curiosity and is incredibly lazy.
You mean her plan on how to get a man in 10 years – genius!
Yep, she’s not stupid. She knows when to lie and weaponise her tears. What. A. Gal
I sometimes teach girls like Kate. They do well enough in school because they are essentially obediant and compliant. But they have no intellectual curiosity, no passions, no real interests, and no real talents. Their only thought in their head is their own appearance. It’s likely the only thing that anyone ever comments on at home, and it’s the only value they have in themselves. They seek out boys instead of girls because the boys will affirm their beauty, and all that matters to them is that others see them as beautiful and desirable. When asked about their future, they mention marriage and kids, but only to fill the picture in their heads. They care about weddings, not marriages. Image, not substance. They don’t read books, or watch documentaries. They don’t care about travel (except to places where they will be seen). They care nothing for politics and government. They may claim to like fashion, but they can’t tell you anything about any designers beyond the labels. While they have no interests or passions, they possess a deep, corrosive vanity that prevents them from connecting to any other women, because women are competition. They care deeply about how others see them, that they be envied by others, because all the meaning in their lives comes from how they are seen by others. That’s what Kate has shown of herself to the world.
I feel deeply sorry for girls like that. All women have to contend with their looks changing over time, but if your only value in yourself comes from your looks, you have a tough, tough road ahead in your life. That’s about the time when these girls start projecting their hopes and dreams on their daughters, which is likely what happened to them.
@Blitznik – wasn’t there more than one young woman who flat out said that Kate used to cheat off of her papers in college – so much so that the woman in question once answered all the questions wrong on a test so she could prove Kate was a big cheater? Anyone else recall those stories?
Cunning is not the same as smart.
I remember those stories.
@Lanne well said. I have a few friends like this and the hollowness of their lives, marriages after the kids are gone is sad to see.
Kate got a degree in Mrs she never used her degree appears to lack intellectual interests. She did not support herself not get any sort of advanced degree in child psychology. She is no Einstein
@Blitznik, if Kkkhate is so bright, why did she need to read cue cards to introduce herself at her trifling Early Years “summit”? She doesn’t impress me as an intelligent person. Someone in her position should strive to better themselves, especially when they’re expected to make public appearances. Hateful Kate demonstrates no intellectual curiosity and absolutely no drive to improve herself. She is the definition of resting on barely existent laurels.
@Blitznik High school grades, seriously? I bet my test scores from high school are better than Kate’s. Also I have a husband who loves me and I don’t subsist on hate and “crack babies.” ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The standards for Kate are far below the Earth’s crust. I do feel bad for her obvious eating disorder — no one should be tortured, no matter what, and that’s torture. But it’s weird how the people who supposedly care about her don’t seem to care about that.
She is rich enough thanks to Uncle Gary to pay to get those grades. Plenty of entitled people cheat off others or pay to use their work. Its not unheard of in those schools. Ma Middleton would have made sure she went where she could marry well.
Whatever her grades are, she hasn’t made use of her intelligence in anything she did after she was done with school I don’t see evidence of it in her current work.
@Blitznik, you’re funny. Kate is so smart that at a round table with FLOTUS, Dr. Jill Biden, she(Kate) eked out, ‘giving tools to babies to raise their babies’.L O Effing L.
Kate is so smart that her (purchased) degree that no headhunters recruited her to use her, ahem, Art history degree(especially as the girlfriend of a FFK). Zero interest=zero knowledge. Majored in Art History and was confused about Faberge eggs. D@mn, don’t remember which romance novelist I was reading at the time, maybe Catherine Coultier (love her way with words & stories with racing cats) but I knew Faberge eggs were not being made when Kate asked about them on video.lol
William said that Kate is the artistic one…lol! She did History of Art or something, a degree for wannabe posh girls. She is patron of some art institutions but for someone who has art as her speciality she doesn’t do much with them.
Someone said that when she is in the company of people in the art world, who can be very snooty, she is completely out of her depth.
I don’t believe Kate is interested in art she went on the course to husband hunt. Eugenie would be a better person to take on patron of the arts roles.
@Nick G, that’s why Kate and so many women like her are enamored of babies. Babies have can be dressed up like dolls, and don’t have formed personalities to contend with. They can be “mini-mes” for Mommy, no more than fashion accessories. When Kate is merely the mom of awkward tweens, she won’t have the same “yummy mummy” cache of attractive women with young children. Children and teenagers have personalities and individuality. They go through awkward phases, and may have interests that Mom isn’t interested in. These women often joke that they wish their kids could stay cute babies, or even tell their kids “you were such a beautiful baby” as a lament.
@ lanne the friends I was thinking about were all enamoured with babies. You’re so right.
Yep, Meghan is all of that – sexy, adventurous, intelligent And they will never forgive her for it.
I agree with Alexis. These idiots are building up the hate to a level where Meghan will not be safe without very careful security. It’s sick and disgusting.
It truly is terrifying.. it needs to stop, absolutely no one should have to endure this. It is time for major politicians to speak out on this and change the laws, hold these people criminally accountable for there comments that will incite violence. Look what happened to the Pelosi family, and she is one of the most powerful political women in the United (Divided) States.
It was always Meghan they were after…and no matter what these evil people do she WON’T engage. She DOESN’T “see” them and she WILL NOT bend for them and it makes them crazy. You keep doing you Meghan…I am here to cheer you on and cackle at these pathetic old racists.
Why does he think what he says has any impact whatsoever on their titles? This dried up piece of snot needs to realize how pathetic he is.
EXACTLY. “He’ll [Harry] keep his princely title, it’s Meghan I’m after.”
Excuse me? This isn’t up to *you.* That sentence betrays the insane level of entitlement this old white man feels toward the Black woman he has no right to exert control over. And I feel like that explains 90% of the narrative. You don’t have any power over her, you nimrod. GET OVER IT.
I would also add that this is the rat who absolutely insists on pronouncing Oprah’s name incorrectly. Nina Myskow pulled him up on it the other day and yet here he is still saying her name wrong again. If Oprah was fresh on the scene it might be forgiveable but, Oprah is a celebrity who has been on our TV screens for a couple of decades. What’s even more astonishing is this was the first time I’ve ever heard anyone pull him up on his mispronunciation (which also says a lot about these so-called presenters who keep inviting him on these programmes.) I don’t think it’s just Meghan Bower has a problem with, I’d argue it’s black women in general especially if they’re rich and successful. Vile man.
1986. That’s the year Oprah reached all of the U.S.
In addition to attempting to elevate himself as someone powerful enough to cancel Meghan, the smug, self-satisfied smirk on Bower’s face as he pronounced that Harry never read his own book was something else. This guy is setting himself up for a karma train of epic proportions.
He claimes they (more correctly, Meghan) should loose their titles because they make the RF look bad or something. If that were the case, non IN the RF should keep their titles. Lord Rothemere (or what’s his name – can’t remember right now) own papers that’s been spouting all kinds of shit about the RF for decades. If people are to be stripped of their titles, they should’ve started with him long ago. Of course that will never happen, and Bower knows it. He’s just playing to his equally deranged comrads for publisity.
It’s Meghan he’s “after”? WTF does that decrepit old fart think he can do to her?
Bower is beyond sick. And he wouldn’t dare repeat what he said on most US television programs. His book must have really bombed so he needs a lawsuit to gin up interest.
Bower will find a willing audience in Fox News and the other MAGAT platforms.
His book didn’t sell well in the US so I doubt even those outlets would waste time having him on.
I have an estranged family member who is a minor American conservative pundit. He is weirdly obsessed with Meghan too. I think because in his mind he’s secretly royalty and can’t imagine giving up that life. Super narcissistic and hierarchical thinker.
I’m not shocked by this; he’s been on a tear about her for a while. I don’t understand why they think people only pay attention to them because of their titles it’s not based in reality. No one says, oh Harry and Meghan and then have to clarify, you know the Duke and Duchess of Sussex over here. This is a wet dream that they have that if the titles are removed, they interest the garner will go away. It won’t. This is their problem they are so blinded by their envy and racism that they can’t understand how people can genuinely be interested in them and not be as interested in the Wales and C&C. I’m glad that actual historian’s ( not “experts”) are like you are full of crap though.
^^ This 100%
Also to add that as they’re so clueless, talentless and out of touch, it has come as a shock to them that they’re not as adored and revered as the Queen was.
This is why the culture war was so important to them, they know that if they don’t win the war of ideas, that they’re finished.
Love when people infantilize men. Like, they’re such innocent little creatures, its their mean mommy wives that make them do bad things. GRRRR
👍 See my comment above 👆.
As I’ve said before, these people (British press, courtiers, other BRF members) think Harry has no thoughts or feelings of his own. I guess he should be in a corner, drooling and wrapped in a strait jacket according to them. They don’t want to believe that Harry is actually the one who wanted to leave. (Even though he said it a number of times before he even met Meghan.)
Agreed and it’s so weird. Per Bower: Meghan must have written the book because she’s “intelligent and sophisticated.” Therefore, Harry must be neither, in fact he might not even be able to read. Okay… then why do y’all so desperately want this blithering idiot back?
So weird, considering that Harry’s co-writer, JR Mohringer, is not exactly an unknown. Agassi’s memoir, Open, was a bestseller and Mohringer’s own memoir was turned into a movie.
He and the other deranged rota members are really doing their best to insult and belittle Harry. A lot of the shit they spout about Meghan, ends up insulting H. They want to break HER to get him back, and break him so he comes back alone, obidient and “loyal” to the crown and RR for the rest of his life.
This meme sums him up
https://media.tenor.com/jYZmxGqvQKsAAAAM/old-man-yells-at-cloud-yelling.gif
JUST like Piers Morgan, Bower is **desperate** and **begging** Meghan and Harry to respond and engage — he’d be aroused and delighted if he was sued. I have no cookies/biscuits for the GMB hosts who attempted to reason with this deranged old fart; they invited him on and fed him his line. Giving a platform to these cretins is enabling because they spout the most unhinged nonsense on purpose, and as we’ve seen with Depape, weak minded people (of which there is a shocking number) eat it up and then act on their delusions. If I were the Sussexes, I wouldn’t set FOOT in Britain. Especially not with my precious babies.
“It’s Meghan I’m after”
Has anyone reported this man to the police? This isn’t the first open threat he’s made against Meghan. This is not healthy.
Thank you! I came here to say the same. The fact that no one called him on it is equally disturbing!
This is why I can’t countenance British media. It is completely unconscionable that a statement like that can go without response on a national news program. He’s inciting violence against a private citizen who lives in another country. How on earth is that okay? Why hasn’t he been condemned? WHY IS THIS MAN ON TV???
There were some on-line who said they were reporting to Of Com. Many were also calling out PW and KC. These morons are basically threatening members of the RF and nothing from either calling them out on this. Makes you wonder what all they have on W and C.
The misogyny is off the charts and very aggressive.
Blaming Meghan for everything Harry has done including his own memoir is extremely disturbing.
We know Scotland Yard will do absolutely nothing about this, I saw several posts where people claimed to report this and others to American alphabet law enforcement agencies. I hope the Sussex security is monitoring it and doing the same, just getting lawyers to send letters has not worked and civil lawsuits over criminal actions take far to long but something has to stop this.
He has publicly said that he wants to bring the Sussexes down. He is completely VILE.
Well, he certainly ended up with the face and teeth he deserved.
It does look like he sucks lemons constantly.
These people believe that if Meghan is out of the picture that Harry will come crawling back to the UK. The press’ obsession with Harry is something else. It will be interesting to see if he talks about that in his book.
Now that Harry’s seen his family for who they really are, has had a taste of freedom and has finally been able to stretch himself, he will never return, no matter what. He knows how to create a life for himself outside the bubble now. He knows what’s possible.
Sue E Generis, ITA. Harry, too, will not go back to the UK and abandon his children. He will not take his children to the UK to raise them if something happened to M. This is the part that the bm never address. Harry IMO would never let his kids be raised in that toxic environment to be used as scapegoats for every member of the royal family–yes, it would be scapegoats for every member. They have to know that … don’t they?
I will never get over just how insulting these people are towards Harry. He’s always too weak to resist Meghan’s manipulations, he’s always too dumb to form an original thought and write a memoir, he’s always such a deadbeat that he’ll surely abandon his wife and babies to return to the UK…and be called weak, stupid, and feckless?
It infuriates me and breaks my heart that Harry has likely lived with this sort of talk, to one degree or another, for most of his life. Did he ever have anyone who was truly on his side after he lost his mother? I know he loved QEII, but even her silence was often deafening.
I don’t think QE2 was particularly good to him, she was just the least bad. When someone is in an environment with that level of dysfunction, abuse and neglect, the least bad seems ‘good’. Especially when the victim has no knowledge that there are alternative ways of living.
+1
@Miranda
I actually don’t think these words were thrown at Harry behind the scenes. Given the evidence of H’s work and the many country visits he made on behalf of queen & country, by special request, there is no doubt that everyone behind the scenes knew who the proverbial “Crown jewel” was.
Its only since H&M hv shown tht they hv no intention of begging to return tht the vitriol against H has intensified and all the opprobrium they can think of is being thrown at him.
Secretly I believe H deliberately draws this fire onto himself as his way of forcing the nasty haters (especially in the shidtmedia) to diversify from their laser-focus on his wife.
It’s like he’s saying to them: so u think my wife despises you, despite all evidence to the contrary that for her you dont exist; she diesnt think about you; youre not in her consciousness. Yet u persist in blaming her for everything……..Well, I despise u just as much as u think she does.
So….BRING IT!
I think they absolutely treated Harry like garbage behind the scenes. These are petty, jealous people. When that kind of person sees someone of worth, they do everything they can to both use them and tear them down. Which is what Harry described — they overworked him and treated him badly.
He sounds scary. Very dangerous. His racism is so insidious.
This dried up old corn cob needs to shut up. They are hoping Meghan will get fed up and file for divorce and that Harry will come back. I don’t know anything about immigration law but if they were to divorce would he have to leave the US if he is on some type of spousal visa/permit? Or can he get permanent resident status on his own? I wonder if that is the angle they are playing. I know a rich white man like Harry doesn’t have to worry about being booted out of the country like someone poor and a POC does but I keep wondering what their strategy is. Why would they think that Harry would go back to the UK knowing his mafia family and the press destroyed his marriage? (If that were to happen, of course)
He could be sponsored through BetterUp since he is an employee and there are exceptions for employers so as long as he is involved with producing for Netflix and employing US citizens he would be allowed a visa. Those two reasons are likely more compelling than being married to a citizen anyway.
I don’t know about immigration law either but I’m pretty sure if he wanted to stay in the States, BetterUp would sponsor him.
For his own sake, while I don’t see a divorce coming (at least no time soon) I hope he isn’t being dumb and banking on his rich white man status. I know Harry isn’t a criminal but I’m thinking of that idiot Jersey Housewife husband, Joe Guidice.
From what I understand, a spousal visa does not make one eligible to work in the US. Harry would have had to get a green card or some other kind of work visa – probably an 01 visa, which is for foreigners with “extraordinary abilities,” and takes less time to process.
I think he would’ve/could’ve had a green card in 6weeks or less. While a spousal visa does not automatically get you one, at that point all Immigration & Naturalization is concerned about is if the marriage is actually “valid”. They ask you to provide ” evidence “….. like pictures of engagement parties/wedding pics/’describe how you met all sorts of (what to me were) weird questions. In Harry’s case, there was over ample proof of the engagement & wedding. It would have only been a formality to get his temp green card and then a permanent green card shortly thereafter.
I know cause I had to go through it.
He’s still intentionally disrespecting Oprah by mispronouncing her name? This coward really hard Black women. The world will be safer pics he kicks the bucket.
It’s the “I’m after” that I take issue with because who are you? What are you king of to be “after” anyone’s title?
The fact that the royal family is cool with playing ball with this level of racist psychopaths says enough.
“It’s Meghan I’m after” is so disturbing.
Agree, Becks1. It’s chilling.
Who else but a monster says something like that?
So very disturbing. His book is full of inaccuracies and yet he’s still booked on GMB. It’s gross.
Especially when seeing it in the video, the hate coming from this man is absolutely terrifying.
With a QAnon MAGA who nearly killed Speaker Pelosi’s husband (and would have killed her if she’d been at home), I am more afraid for Meghan’s life than ever. All these nuts need to do is connect her with the Dem “cabal”, and anything could happen.
The RR must stop these stupid attacks.
There are deranged out there and bower is fanning the flames. Some legal action is required since he openly said he wants to ruin her
Even if KC3 stripped Harry and Meghan of their duchy. Harry is still an English prince by birthright. Harry descends from kings and queens going back thousands of years to the early middle ages and neither man nor thing can take that away from him. He is our prince now with two children born on American soil. Salty Island and its royal family be damned.
Edward VIII wrote a memoir after he abdicated. He wasn’t stripped of his title of Duke of Windsor for writing a book. Plus he openly spent time with Hitler and had to be shuttled off to the Bahamas where he could do the least amount of damage to the war effort.
Short memoires these leaches have.
Edward kept the his royal highness title and he and Wallis are buried in royal burial grounds
Old Lady, and that’s what we’ll all be reminding everyone about if Chuck is stupid enough to take the titles away from H&M. There’s too much evidence out there about Edward & Wallis being Nazi collaborators. That’s going to be thrown in the face of the brf if they do something stupid. Let them explain why helping Nazis during the war is not the egregious act that a grown man leaving the family home to make a life for himself and his family is.
Other royals have written memoirs. It is nothing new.
Jonathan Dimbleby’s biography of Charles was fully authorised and many have said that it was Charles memoir.
This is the literal definition of stochastic terrorism. And it has an impact on all Black women. It’s terrifying.
It really is terrifying, Eowyn.
This!
It is absolutely terrifying to this senior black woman. I somewhat doubt that Harry has real comprehension of these people absolute evil. As The Pelosi family did. If Harry has plans to visit the UK Maghan needs to be left in Cali. She is a pretty black woman. She risks having acid thrown in her face.
Harry and Meghan have a lot of support in the U.K. especially amongst intelligent people and young people.
Even if Meghan and Harry were to divorce or if heaven forbid, Meghan were to pass away all of a sudden, I don’t think Harry would go back to the UK, at least as long as his kids are young. He has a lot of friends in the US now and he’s seen how much more freedom they have growing up in CA than in the palace institution. That’s the only thing that would truly get the the royal tabloid media to shut up, Meghan being out of the picture and Harry refusing to still come back.
And once Harry and Meghan’s kids are adult and they learn about all the upheaval and criticism their parents faced when they were young, they will probably unshockingly say their parents made the right choice and they’re happy they got to grow up in the US.
They’re all proving Harry’s point. He was always “the spare” and as soon as he was replaced with William’s children he was seen as having less value.
A horribly cruel, barbaric system that should be ended. There are no valued individuals in the BRF, only movable, replaceable pawns. No way to live a life, especially on display for the world.
End the monarchy.
These people have a very limited vocabulary. Its always this “trashing” and “lies, lies, lies” bit. They sound like a broken record.
Also, slap, slap, slap, and blindsided ect. It’s really kind of rote and unimaginative.
Wow, look at Tom Bower act like a creepy stalker on TV. Seriously, he just said he was going after Meghan. The Sussexes need to up their security.
This is creeping me out just like the Pelosi case.bower should be called out on this by Harry and Meghan lawyer
The panic. The fear. The aggression just hides it. I have to say, I feel terrible for every bright, educated, ambitious woman who has to deal with this (so … all of them) but … you gotta revel in the panic these old white dudes exhibit. It’s everywhere. It is dangerous, no doubt but it’s also a sign that – in this case – Meghan is doing something right. Because the less she cares and the happier she seems, the louder they screech. They can see that times are changing and while the backlash to movements like metoo and BLM is awful, it is only the beginning. They all know.
Since the media never discusses the actual realities, here I go again.
Charles has no authority to remove the title Duke and Duchess of Sussex from Harry and Meghan. Once a noble title is given only Parliament can take it away.
Charles could issue Letters Patent that removed the HRH and Prince and Princess portion of their titles. Not that declaring Harry is no longer a prince will stop people from viewing the Kings son as a prince.
Though Charles would have a devil of a time removing the HRH and Princely styles from the Sussexes without also removing them from over half of the rest of the family, unless they just abandon all pretense and write in ‘and NOTHING for those traitorous and disloyal assholes over in California’.
It’s a wonder that dumb, mindless Harry got through 10 years in the Army, especially piloting sophisticated helicopters, without Meghan. Wonder how he earned the respect of so many fellow veterans, given that he’s so hapless (snark).
Meghan is brilliant. That’s why old white guys like Bowers fear her. It’s also why Harry, who’s much more secure in his masculinity, had the wisdom and confidence to fall in love with her.
This is up there with the derangers saying since Meghan hasn’t sued it means Tom’s book is true. Still laughing about that one. As was pointed out, he wants to be sued, so does Piers. Starving them of attention and not responding to their terrible books (which made no money) is the best course of action. Angela Levin is still bitter her book did badly, so is Bower, and they keep going after Scobie because they want to just claim he’s PR for Meghan/Harry.
They’ve been implying and some of them outright this sentiment for the last few years now. But hearing it so coldly and casually makes it chilling as @Becks1 noted above.
“[she] came here to make fame and fortune and go back to America, [she] is exploiting the royal title.”
This is perhaps the stupidest lie these morons keep peddling. Meghan married into the royal family…. to leave it? That makes zero sense.
So I guess it’s totally fine to just declare open season on the daughter-in-law of the King and late Queen on public morning television?
Just making sure I’m keeping up with how much they respect the monarchy.
And yet there are questions as to whether H&M will go/be invited to the Coronation? Oh please , please don’t even entertain the idea of stepping foot back in that nastiness
have said it before and will say it again. They should just get rid of their titles. honestly, why even be attached to this toxic AF family? release a statement that they want to let their work speak for themselves and not be muddied by the royal or duchess/duke aristocracy. change the brand from royal adjacent to leaders in humanitarian work ON THEIR OWN merit, without anyone saying they used their titles for gains.
Well I’ve said this before and I will say it again: remember when they were screamed at about Frogmore renovation costs? They paid those and the tabloids immediately found something else. They will always move the goalposts. They have said before that they want their work to speak for itself. Hell, they asked Harry *directly* at Invictus about his family and he replied he was there for the vets and that’s what he wanted to focus on and the tabloids still screamed about it for days.
If they did what you say, they would be hounded for “disrespecting the institution”. They will never not be followed or hounded by a certain segment of an industry that makes actual money from targeting them. There is no reason Harry should give up his birthright because of the abuse of others. And his birthright doesn’t make their brand “royal adjacent”.
there’s a difference between saying you want your work to speak for yourself, and then signing things with ur title and giving speeches as the duke and duchess of sussex. it is a continual signal that you are paying homage to the royal family. that you are part of that world. instead of, here’s my message as a citizen of the world and i am paving my own way. i understand the tabloids may find something else to talk about, but that is a clear message they want to be viewed as separate. i think they would find a wider audience who will admire the courage to dissociate completely from that world/family.
It is absolutely not a homage to the royal family. Those are their names. It’s no more of an homage than me using my name even if I cut ties with other family members who also bear that name. Diana used the title Princess of Wales (without HRH) even after her divorce with her charity work and it certainly wasn’t an homage to Charles. And Harry received his Sussex title from his grandmother who he loved and loves. It is not his problem that others can’t realize all of this and there is no reason he should be allowing people to abuse and bully him into things which will not stop harassment anyway.
Harry and Meghan have done plenty of work which shows they are paving their own way. Focusing on the titles is frivolous.
Do you know what renouncing their titles will do? All it will do is make these people feel they have a sense of power over the Sussexes, that Harry and Meghan did something in response to what the hate industry was screaming about. They will feel more ownership and become more rabid and harassing. There is no reason to do that.
Yesss!!! 100% agree. Just publicly disown them and say you don’t want titles and don’t use them on your letterhead, books, articles, etc. they have denounced her family for much less. I would love to see what the British tabloids would do if they just completely walked away. What would they even have to talk about??!?!?
Come on. During periods when the Sussexes were less visible, the tabloids were still writing articles about absolute nonsense like Archewell being registered in Delaware and frothing at the mouth about garbage like that. They don’t have anything to talk about and that has never stopped them before. Harry and Meghan shouldn’t need to change their behavior to feed them not just because they shouldn’t satisfy abusers but also because it won’t change anything. In fact, it would make people like Bower screech even more about how Meghan “stole” him.
People who make these arguments are forgetting that as the son of Diana, Harry will ALWAYS be associated with the royals in a high-profile way, titles or no, and that will never ever be forgotten by these people.
When did they denounce Meghan’s family? The only things she has said is that they tried to get in touch with Tom (proven by text messages) and HE IGNORED THEM. He then continued to vilify her in the press with no proof at all that he legitimately tried to talk to Meghan outside of creepily stalking Doria. Her siblings made their own decision to be creepy and tell lies about Meghan after not really being in her life FOR YEARS. Is someone obligated to pick up ties with relatives who ignored you previously just because they suddenly want attention? How is any of what Tom and his offspring are doing MUCH LESS? And, as Meghan made clear, the relationship with the RF is PH’s decision. His beloved grandmother is the reason he has the titles. The Duke title was the only wedding “present” from her he hasn’t had to pay back. This also isn’t a call for PH to be untitled; it’s a direct racist attack only on Meghan. I wouldn’t cede them anything.
Giving up names and your birthrights wouldn’t help. It would only give the tabloids more to fuel the fire.
They still would be harassed.and we harry to divorce her and leave their children and run back to the uk
I initially thought this too, but even if they give up the titles, and only go by Harry and Meghan Windsor people are still going to be upset because they are outshining the “real Royals’ in their minds.
They honestly want Harry to be broke, Meghan to get dumped, the children to disappear, and then laugh at them for daring to take on the RR and also the RF.
I think they want them dead.
@Emily_C, I believe that they do. And I’m beginning to believe at this point, the Firm under Charles’ leadership will stop at no lengths to destroy Meghan and Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet. It’s a chilling and terrifying thought.
They are already doing this to an extent. Meghan”s podcast just uses her first name and Harry’s book just uses Prince Harry which is his legal birth title. Neither used Duke and Duchess for those puposes. My guess also is since the titles are their legal names, they may have signed contracts with those names. So would new contracts need to be signed? Plus, why is the onus on the Sussexes to change everything when THEY have been the ones bullied? Next “the derangers” will want Lilibet’s name changed because of the association with the queen. Nothing is enough for these monsters.
MsIam, I hadn’t thought about the bm and derangers wanting Lilibet’s name change, but of course that’s what would happen. If H&M give the bm and derangers power over them by relinquishing their titles, then that would logically be the next ask. I’m sure they also would want them to change the Mountbatten-Windsor name, too. They will continue to find more and more things to castigate the Sussexes for. They’ll never stop. H&M should just keep doing what they’re doing. They’ll continue to succeed and the brf, bm and derangers will just have to stay mad. I wonder if they’ve realized that they’re actually making the case for the Sussexes to have the appropriate security when in the UK? They are upping their security risk. I have a feeling that the US doesn’t want anything to happen to members of the brf (whether they have titles or not) on US soil. They’re probably making sure that Harry’s security is well aware of any and all threats.
If they ceased using their titles, they could use their regular surname which is Mountbatten-Windsor which is the name of the current royal line, so they are still part of the royal family. Unless they just made up a name for themselves, and what would be the point of that? The RR want their titles removed because they need something vindictive to write about. Giving up their titles would be the act of disowning their family. Even people who disown their families do not necessarily give up their names. If Charles tried to take away the Sussex title, he would be taking away something bestowed on Harry by his grandmother, the late Queen and mother of the current king. The removal would be vindictive, and disrespectful to his mother, as Harry has not given any reason for the legal removal of his title. It’s not right to demand that people deny who they were born.
Harry made it clear on TMYCS that the establishment won’t rest until Meghan is dead. Believe it.
And once she’s dead they’ll spend the next 50 years commodifying her EVEN WORSE than they did when she was alive, with added ‘oh isn’t it so tragic that someone so awesome died so young and things just couldn’t work out’ bullshit.
@Snoodle, that part.
Harry has had a first hand account of living in the royal family almost his whole life in the UK. Meghan would not have had that knowledge. Is not bower going in for harassment saying he wants to ruin meghan.
What a monster bower is threatening a woman with a husband and two young children. Bower is after harry targeting Meghan,
He is a total monster and needs to be watched.
Yikes, scary stalker vibes.
I want to wipe that smirk off his ugly prune face.
I think Kaiser is 100% correct that Bower has been DESPERATELY trying to get a reaction from Meghan for some time now. Whether it’s his dumb book in which he claimed Meghan and Serena aren’t really friends, or his inane comment on GMB, this guy has been trying SOOO hard to get Meghan to acknowledge his existence, it’s beyond pathetic. What a sad sack.
I agree. He was openly hoping they would sue him for his book a while back because that would have gotten him even more publicity. They won’t bother. The only time Meghan has sued relates to the letter to her father and jointly about the photos of Archie.
They aren’t going to sue about a dumb book and give it more attention.
And this s why Harry is fighting so hard for security for his family while in the uk because these unhinged racist bitches are dangerous. They have reached the point of no return on what they are willing to do or have done to Meghan in the hopes that Harry would then leave his children behind and come back to their unseasoned deranged asses.
The funny thing is that taking H&M’s titles would do NOTHING to squash their global fame, their prestige, their desirability, or people’s fascination with them!
I say go ahead, take their titles (at least then we wouldn’t have to hear them threaten H&M with that 10x/day), and prepare to watch the BRF lose their sh*t when they realize that it has done NOTHING to reduce their value, to themselves and to the world.
Annalise, MsIam above posted that once their titles are gone, they probably would go after them to change Lilibet’s name. I posted to agree and to add that if they did that then they would demand they change their last name from Mountbatten-Windsor. H&M can’t give any power to these abusers. They will continue to ignore them, which is the best thing they can do.
Yeah, I’m pretty sure that if Charles somehow manages to strip Harry of the titles Queenie gave him that it would be the death knell of the British Monarchy as any sort of diplomatic power and sour the milk regarding their PR on a global scale.
Public perception of the relationship between the British Royal Family and H&M would be thrown into the ‘Middle Eastern Dictator-style Monarch attempting to capture and silence female member of the family who wants to live ANYWHERE but back home’ pile, even though things haven’t really gotten to that point. Yet.
That clip alone should PROVE to a court (or whatever it goes to) that they need SECURITY when they are in the UK.
Bower just PROVED Harry’s point!
As long as Meghan draws breath, Harry won’t come back… what is that supposed to mean, really? This is chilling, how can you write something like that about anyone???
The obsession of some mealy faced and ugly minded men with Meghan is astonishing. Get a grip, Bower, you’re embarrassing.
This rancid old corpse didn’t say ‘adventurous’, but ‘adventuress’. Which is an incredibly Victorian way to smear a woman for not being appropriately passive and docile, or for having aspirations above her class.
Badge of honour.
Ah, what is described as the “dated” definition in the dictionary.
It was also a “polite” synonym for “whore.” Which is what he meant.
Yes@emily_ may I add a woman of ill repute, without morals who will bed your husband. Granny would never say whore but that is what she meant. Every small town in the early 1900s had an adventuress.
Wait, didn’t King Charles marry one??
Ooooh Julia K, that was SCATHING
@AQUARIUS64- I actually believe that Bowers was SPECIFICALLY trying to get H&M to sue him over his book. His stupid book contains SO MANY provably false statements, especially about Meghan, I mean RIDICULOUSLY false, that to me, the only thing that makes sense is that he was TRYING to get sued. I guess he figured it would give him some prestige amongst the royalists and the Meghan-haters, as well as giving him and his book some MUCH needed publicity.
All these old white men who hate Meghan are Frollos. It’s really transparent, and really scary and disgusting.
I love that you made this reference. Nail on the head.
I only watched the last clip. Go Dr. Tessa! Leave it to an educated woman to call Bowers out and know what’s going on. People like her and Alex Beresford (who called out Piers Moron) need to be heard and featured more prominently. They don’t have to be pro-Sussex per se, but they appear to be pro-reason, and that is enough to counter the racist lunatics.
I keep hearing the “17 lies” nonsense so I finally Googled them…turns out—surprise, surprise—propagated by PM and repeated ad nauseum as scripture by the BM. Most of these “lies” are “exaggerations” or “unprovable.” A lot of the “proven” lies are ludicrous, like, omg Meghan totally looked Harry up before their date! People have truly lost their minds and think if they keep repeated the 17 lies comment, it’ll set in stone. What about the 99 lies of Andrew and the 1000s of Charles? The 500 of Khate and the countless of William? Denials of affairs alone will outnumber 17…but no, the numbers that matter are 17 lies, 14 million dollars and 19 bathrooms.
I think one reason the right wing British press has it’s hate mongering panties in such a bundle is that the entity Harry is going to go hardest on is the media itself.
These people really think Harry will leave his wife and children to return to his oppressive family and media – the media that killed his mother. Or, does the Rota think Harry can force Meghan to hand over the children to take them with him? Or are they hoping that old “grand children are under the custody of the monarch” will be enforceable? Wouldn’t you love to see that in the courtroom? Yes we own these America citizens, the children of an American citizen.
I’m counting down till it’s announced Harry has qualified for his citizenship exam and passed it.
The monarchy should end. It feels all pretend now to me as an American. William married a commoner. What tradition does this particular British monarchy keep at this point that is a benefit to the nation and world? Colonialism is ending. Thank you to the once great British Empire; let’s wrap it up.
…and William’s father married the mistress whose marriage he destroyed. It should have ended 50 years ago.
They are so very desperate to take down Meghan. No facts. No evidence. No proof. In fact they are making nasty claims about Meghan that go AGAINST the facts. Harry is the author of his own book. History will not treat them kindly.
“it’s Meghan I’m after.”
It’s shocking, to me, that Tom Bower said these words, which we all knew he thought (and the rest of the “royal reporters”), but he said.them.out.loud.
Forevermore, this is the definitive explanation for how Harry was so right to get his family the fcuk out of there. Holy hell, this dude is given a platform on tv, as an expert? He threatened a Duchess, the wife of a prince, and that means something to these idiots, as they keep fawning over the royals on Salty Isle.
Good luck with all of this, England, I am so sorry. This is Donald Trump talking about Ivanka levels of disturbing.
+ Bower’s ‘it’s Meghan I’m after’ is equivalent to the Pelosi’s intruder ‘where’s Nancy?’. The BM that want to have this mothereffer on..is speaking volumes and doesn’t look good on the current or future monarch choosing to say nothing. The End.
The f-cking insane energy of these people. Reminds me of Katherine Anne Porter’s short story,
“Noon Wine.”
I’ve been saying the same thing since the very start of this whole thing about stripping away Harry and Meghan’s titles…let’s say, hypothetically, that that actually does happen. Let’s say Harry and Meghan are now just Harry and Meghan Mountbatten-Windsor, or w/e.
Why in the world do these people think that no one will care about them suddenly? If anything, I’d imagine it’d be the complete opposite. The fact that a prince born into the royal family lost his title would simply boost his and Meghan’s profile even further, no?
Like…how many people actually gave a sh-t when Diana lost the style of HRH after her divorce? Absolutely no one. I doubt that that registered for anyone except the inbred British nitpickers like Tom Bower who care about this sh-t. She wasn’t even born with the title of princess, but she remained Princess Diana until her the very end, and she will always be Princess Diana. People loved Diana for who she was, not for her titles or her styles.
Ordinary people don’t give a sh-t about these things. Only British fogies who wistfully imagine they’re still living in Queen Victoria’s times do. What people like Tom Bower fail to understand is that Harry could become Mr. Harry Wales Mountbatten-Windsor tomorrow, and he’d still be an incredibly compelling, thoughtful public figure whose voice and input is valued.
In fact, Harry could become Mr. Harry Wales Mountbatten-Windsor, and start working as a Walmart greeter on the outskirts of Lubbock, Texas, and he’d STILL have contributed more to society and humanity than any of the people in the British Royal Family and all of their sycophants have. Harry could become Mr. Harry Wales Mountbatten-Windsor, night janitor, scraping gum off the undersides of desks, and he’d still be a better human being than anyone in the RF, bc the measure of a person is not in the titles and the status they are born into, but how they conduct themselves and treat others in the course of their life.
I believe our government alerts the Sussexes of vile threats here and the UK so they can take appropiate action with their security-Mr. Bowers needs to careful with his words-somebody could feel the same about getting him
I have no reason to believe that our government has any interest in keeping them informed.
“It’s Meghan I’m after.”
This is… really upsetting. Words matter. I mean, I guess I’m glad he let his mask slip all the way off, but this is so problematic. That’s a direct threat. This man is a part of the industry that “was after” Princess Diana, and they hounded her to her death. I am not overreacting when I say Tom Bower, whoever tf that is, just publicly issued a death threat against the first and only woman of color in the RF. Meghan and Harry have quit. They have moved across the globe, put the Atlantic Ocean and all of the Continental US between them and the racist British press. Diana didn’t die in Britain. Prince Harry said, “they aren’t going to stop until she dies.” It’s just so distressing. Why cant they just leave them alone?!
Because no one has ever exploited a Royal Title .
Another old English scrot distracting the media with Bla bla bla about H &M .
The waxy untouchable BRF getting lackeys to spread their BS.