For years, we were told that the Duchess of Sussex “made Kate cry.” For years, the story kept shifting about exactly what happened and what was said. Was it about bridesmaids’ dresses? Tights? How Meghan treated Kensington Palace staff? Even when Meghan corrected the record in the Oprah interview – that Kate had actually made her cry before the wedding – we were still lacking specifics of exactly what happened. Enter Prince Harry and his memoir. This is one of the top stories at the Daily Mail – their summary of Harry’s account of the whole fracas. The Mail is trying desperately to put an anti-Sussex spin on this, but it definitely feels like Harry was writing this based on the actual text messages between Meghan and Kate, and Kate does not come across well.
Harry has given his first full account of the infamous bridesmaid dress fitting at the heart of ‘Megxit’, claiming Princess Charlotte ‘cried when she tried it on at home’. Directly referencing his niece – a breach of privacy that is sure to anger his brother William – Harry insists the incident was driven by his sister-in-law Kate, who appeared irritated that it had taken Meghan a day to get back to her about the problem.
The disagreement between the two women was, he claims, further exacerbated by Kate’s unwillingness to visit Meghan’s tailor at Kensington Palace and suggestions that they hold a party for the page boys when his bride-to-be was busy dealing with a row with her father, Thomas Markle.
Opening his latest salvo, the prince writes that Meghan received a text from Kate four days before their wedding saying there was a problem with the dresses for the bridesmaids and they needed altering. They were ‘French couture’ and had been hand-sewn from measurements only – without a fitting – so ‘it wasn’t a big shock’ that they might not fit perfectly, he says.
Harry writes: ‘Meg didn’t reply to Kate straight away. Yes, she had endless wedding-related texts, but mostly she was dealing with the chaos surrounding her father. So the next morning she texted Kate that our tailor was standing by.’ She told her that his name was Ajay and he was ‘at the palace’.
‘This wasn’t sufficient,’ Harry goes on to write darkly. After setting up a time to speak later that afternoon, Harry writes that Kate complained: ‘Charlotte’s dress is too big, too long, too baggy. She cried when she tried it on at home.’
Meghan snapped back: ‘Right, and I told you the tailor has been standing by since 8am. Here. At KP. Can you take Charlotte to have it altered, as the other mums are doing?’
According to Harry’s version of events, Kate replied: ‘No, all the dresses need to be remade.’ And said she had discussed the issue with her ‘own wedding designer’ who agreed.
Harry writes: ‘Meg asked if Kate was aware of what was going on right now. With her father. Kate said she was well aware, but the dresses. And the wedding is in four days!’
‘Yes, Kate, I know….’ his fiancée replied sharply. He also claims that his sister-in-law had ‘problems with the way Meg was planning her wedding. Something about a party for the page boys? It went back and forth’.
The prince reports his wife as saying: ‘I’m not sure what else to say. If the dress doesn’t fit then please take Charlotte to see Ajay. He’s been waiting all day.’
‘Fine’, Kate is said to have replied.
Harry states that he arrived home a short time later, which suggests that he and his ghost writer were given an account of the actual conversation by Meghan, to find his fiancée ‘on the floor sobbing’. While he says he was ‘horrified’ to see her so upset, he didn’t think it a catastrophe as emotions were understandably high. He told Meghan that ‘Kate hadn’t meant any harm’. He suggests his point was proved when the then Duchess of Cambridge came round the next morning with flowers and a card to say sorry.
Harry makes a point of writing that Meghan’s best friend, Lindsay, was in the kitchen when she turned up as if to suggest he can prove his version of events.
[From The Daily Mail]
As I said before, it’s giving Wedding Karen. “Charlotte’s dress is too big, too long, too baggy. She cried when she tried it on at home.” Jesus H. And Meghan had already given her the solution when Kate texted that! Meghan had *already* told Kate to take Charlotte to the tailor at KP. Kate is an utter drama queen, my God. I hope Meghan’s texts were that curt as well – I can really feel Meghan’s annoyance at Kate’s melodrama. I love the Mail’s melodrama too – “a breach of privacy” for mentioning Charlotte’s name! Literally, Charlotte’s name was always mentioned in all of the stories pushed by Kate.
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Re-doing all of the bridesmaids’ dresses four days before the wedding? My jaw dropped. Either Kate is completely mad to think this was even possible (or that she had the right to ask such a thing!), or she really is the self-absorbed, grand yet dim person we’ve been told she is. Unbelievable!
Or she was trying to add to Meghan’s stress, thus hopefully sabotage the wedding. Meghan’s low life father gave her haters carte blanche to treat her as they really wanted because of his vile antics. Thomas Markle gave Waity the perfect opportunity to throw a hand grenade. Evil woman.
@Rae
100% with you
This. Cannot was (ironically) working her ass off to sabotage Meghan.
On top of everything else, this also reflects how wastefully Kate behaves on a regular basis.
Right? I wonder how many of her dresses get completely remade? What terrible wastefulness.
@yup, me recycled outfits are going to be churning it in overdrive now won’t they?
Wasteful?? She could never! She rented a dress for earthsh*t!!!!!
I also want to know how Kate got from “Charlotte’s dress doesn’t fit” to “all the bridesmaids dresses need to be remade,” when it sounds like each child received and tried on their outfits privately.
Who cares! Kate is the NEXT QUEEN CONSORT, she is infallible!
@ Christine, of course she is though no one is buying it.
Nah – Kate was just causing trouble because she could. Her texts were completely and deliberately critical and unconstructive – even doubling down when she had been provided with a fast and effective solution – the tailor on standby at KP, presumably exactly because the dresses had all been made from remote measurements.
Also making my blood boil is how this is being reported in UK media this morning. The article I read put Meghan’s second, understandably snappier text to Kate about the tailor as her FIRST response – thus making it look like Meg immediately snapped at Kate.
The protection for Kate is what gets me. Maybe I wouldn’t care if Meghan had been equally protected or even somewhat protected. But the original and false story did not give Meghan any grace and was maliciously planted in the press. Now here’s Harry telling us the real story and the press is still twisting in pretzels to protect Kate. Imagine if there was evidence that Meghan did what Kate does here. It would be merciless and yet here they are fronting and twisting and allowing their white princess to be upheld when clearly she was an absolute snot. White supremacy, I guess.
@Jais – I have a theory that quite a lot of the press vitriol against H&M is not just down to other members of the RF throwing them under the bus. It’s too sustained and consistent for that. I think it’s also motivated by anger at the fact that they wouldn’t play the game and give the press insider access. Had Meg done a Camilla and had a few journalists on speed dial and over for lunches, I think they (or some of them) would have taken a very different line. Much of the smearing is the press taking their personal revenge for being left out in the cold. It feels so personal.
You’re spot on there @The Hench! They probably thought that as a former actress Meghan would be their bestie and invite them for tea and fill them in on all the drama all the time. When she didn’t they wanted to break her into compliance, with the support of KP.
@TheHench I completely agree. Their anger and hatred of H&M is personal; its not just because KP and BP gave them the go-ahead to trash them. They hate that H&M wouldnt play the game and that now, they’re exposing that game.
Its very disturbing to see.
Agree @TheHench. Kate was causing trouble because she could. All she had to do was show up to the tailors at KP and any needed (if needed adjustments would be made). The other moms did and they didn’t freaking live at KP (like some people supposedly were-George was still going to Battersea at the time). This is definitely a pile on of stress to Meghan. If Charlotte “cried”, it had nothing to do with the dress itself. But her mother. At this point, no one should be disappointed by what the BM/UK tabloid press put out – they don’t report the news, they create it.
People should go back and look at what the BM/BRF toadie, non investigative journalist and basic scum of a human, Bower wrote in his Revenge book. He threw everything (lol every version of Crygate) into his book. Except for the truth. I’m only sharing this link to a Newsweek article because it shows all of the nonsense, disjointed versions of Crygate. All over the place. The big emphasis, to me, is him writing that Kate thought the dresses were too short and Givenchy’s dress-fitters “witnessing”lol Meghan’s rejections of Kate’s observations.
Good on Harry mentioning Lindsay was there when Kate showed up with a note & flowers. I remember certain BM articles claiming Meghan threw the flowers into a bin right away.lol Lindsay can ascertain what happened at the time.
https://www.newsweek.com/meghan-markle-did-make-kate-cry-famous-flower-girl-argument-tom-bower-revenge-oprah-1726684
There is never an upside to engaging in ‘playing the game’ with the BM. There’s no way Meg would have given any of them access, and had she, they’d always want more and more. Once the door is open to access, they would really be convinced they owned Meg & Harry!
Meg was following Harry’s lead anyway. She was always going to steer clear of those BM grifters, clowns, and bums. I don’t understand why anyone is so optimistic about the outcome of having anything to do with Brit media devils. SMH!
Third and most likely possibility: she was trying to sabotage the wedding. And then she showed up at the wedding wearing off-white. The woman is a bitch on wheels.
And why would a little girl like Charlotte cry over a dress?! I highly doubt this part of the story. At this age it’s extremely unlikely Charlotte cared much about dress design. It’s her mother who made this up or upset Charlotte by making ugly comments, imo.
I’m not even a woman and my jaw dropped. Like I’m just a dumb guy who doesn’t know dresses nor think much of big weddings and even I know that’s an insult to a bride tantamount to setting the reception hall on fire.
…..and then to wear the ‘pale yellow’ (cough – off white) outfit, just like Cam did on Diana’s wedding day.
So I actually didn’t care much about this whole story before it was brought up again in Harry’s book and now I’m actually intrigued. And now the tailor that Harry names in the book, Ajay, has come out and said that multiple people had to work day and night for four days in a row to fix those bridesmaid dresses because they were an absolute mess. That’s beyond alterations – it sounds like he did basically remake them. What happened!!!??? How did Givenchy mess it up so much, I’m so confused. Also, haute couture does have fittings, especially for a royal wedding. Ajay didn’t even work for Givenchy – he said he was brought in after the fact to clean up Givenchys mess. There is def a kti more to this story, and though I didn’t care much about it before, now I’m super intrigued!
Is it me or is it just weird that a very little girl would freak out over a dress not being perfectly tailored? Either she’s actually a little drama queen or she took her cues from Kate and cried because her mother threw a tantrum over the dress.
I think she took her cues from her mother.
Absolutely she cried because Kate went hysterical. This is bananas.
I don’t buy for a second that a three year old would even know how a dress was SUPPOSED to fit. I bet she cried after seeing her mother’s reaction.
I truly feel bad for this child growing up with such a mother.
I’ll even bet Charlotte liked that it was so big and roomy and comfy, and it was only when her mother threw a conniption that she started crying.
Yes, I found that weird as well. I’m guessing either she took her cues from Kate or Kate flat out lied/exaggerated to push her own Karen agenda but put it on her daughter so she would seem less obnoxious?
Kate is clearly a liar and high strung af. Anything is possible.
I think you are correct. Whatever the case, Kate needs to step and reevaluate her actions – a grown adult does not use a child as an excuse for bad behavior (much less a mother using their own child). And if true, and Charolotte lost it on her own, kate needs to teach the child coping skills. Shame on Kate, as a mother and an adult.
Nah, my kid freaked out about her dress being “poofy” at that age. They don’t have great tools to communicate, so what comes out isn’t necessarily where really bothering them. She also complained that her ice was too cold that day.
Well yeah. Kids cry for all sorts of reasons when they’re little. As you said, what comes out isn’t necessarily what’s really bothering them. There was no need for Kate to even guilt Meghan by saying Charlotte cried, just that the fit is off and needed to be adjusted. Which Meghan gave her a solution to. Most people, knowing the stress Meghan was under, wouldn’t even mention the 3 yr old crying bc why would they?The point is they always knew the dress would need to be adjusted. I’m curious as to whether Kate wanted a whole different style when she said it needed to be totally remade. Otherwise, wouldn’t it just be adjusted to fit rather than remade.
I am always going to complain that my ice is too cold now! This made my day!
My kid cried over having to wear a sash with her flower girl dress at that age.
Did I make demands of the bride, who was marrying into our family? I did not.
“The ice is too cold.” 😂😂😂. What gorgeous dialogue, I am totally stealing that.
That’s right up there with Faye Dunaway complaining that her town car driver’s turn signal was too loud 😂.
@SP- and that’s the other thing, even if your very young child didn’t want to wear something to someone else’s wedding would you demand that the bride change everything FOUR days before the wedding for them?!?! No, that’s a ridiculous and selfish request, no one in their right mind would do that to a bride. Kate is a mean girl through and through though and nothing will ever convince me otherwise.
I know a 60something woman who complains if the water is too cold.
No three-year-old would cry because a dress is baggy. Now we know who leaked that Meghan made Charlotte cry.
Kate is just as deranged as her husband.
A three year old would totally cry if they tried on a dress they felt pretty in and their mom pulled a face and called it too baggy and too long and made it clear she thought it was awful. Charlotte crying was either Normal three year old stuff, or a direct reflection of Kate’s reaction to her in the dress. I know which one I think.
Lucy, agreed that Charlotte’s reaction was because her mother freaked out. Given what a powder keg that household is, a three-year-old would be learning quick to be tuned in to parents’ moods/opinions.
Now I feel sorry for that little girl she has a mom that seems to critique every little thing and demand perfection
@barbara Yeah – I had the same thought. Could also be that Charlotte was being a normal little kid and tired or hungry or just having a “moment” like all little kids do and said, “I don’t want to try on a dress” when she had to stop playing or pause another activity and Kate used that to her advantage to broadly say that Charlotte cried in response to how the dress fit because SHE didn’t like it. I have bought coats, sweaters, shirts, etc. 3 sizes too big my son’s entire life to save $ and get multiple years out of them and he never even noticed. What kid that age observes that something is too baggy? They’re more likely to cry if it’s too fitted “toooo tiigggghhhhtttttttt Mommy”.
Kate was making every girl/female cry that day! Charlotte, Meghan, the Virgin Mary…
I think she just straight up lied. We all know she has no problem lying so why would this be different. There is no way a typical 3 year old cried about a dress because it was supposedly ill-fitting unless she was forced to try it on when she was over tired or hungry or something.
ETA: @nutella lol just saw I was finishing my comment when you posted yours. Being a mom to a few kids and you can instantly spot the ridiculousness of this story.
All, you missed the part about Kate’s wedding dress designer agreeing with her. Did Kate send a picture of the dress to her designer? Have the person come over to view the dress? Offering HER designer to remake the dresses. Who does that.
Meghan thought she was getting a sister in law, a friend, a comadre, Kate on the other hand saw Meghan as a subordinate, someone for her to supervise and dictate to. What a nightmare that woman must have been.
Athena, seriously, what an insult for Kate to have her designer (yeesh) second-guessing. Amazing gall…🙄🙄
She definitely took her cues from
Her mother.
I don’t think Charlotte cried at all actually. Was Charlotte around 4 at the time? Kids that age don’t give a shit about how clothes are tailored/fit. Kids that age don’t give a shit about their appearance at that age; WE DO. Moms and Karen’s who criticize how other mothers dress their kids. I mean we as in general as a society, not each and every one of us. I stopped being so rigid about how cute my kid’s clothes were when she started pre-school and realized that the clothes were going to get trashed. And that she didn’t really care about designer clothes or looking super cute. KKKate sukkks.
Mmmm… all three of my nieces have been obsessed about choosing their own outfits since age 2 and they all cried, refused to wear things or had tanties about clothes in the 2-5 bracket. No one taught them that – we all would have much preferred that they didn’t even care about what they were wearing.
Some kids don’t care about what they wear, others do. And something they love one minute, they’ll hate the next.
One of my friends’ sons at that age would only wear one particular shirt for months. Others only wanted their Batman suit. Or they’d change outfits 5 times in one day. Or want to wear mismatched socks, even shoes. Crazy outfits with swimwear and jumpers and Tutus mixed together that they insisted on.
We were all the same back in the 80s too.
Indeed, I was a flower girl for two aunts’ weddings and for the first I absolutely flatly refused to try on the dress prior to the wedding. I wouldn’t let it near me. Somehow my grandmother managed to make it a perfect fit and on the day I put it on and played the princess role and loved it.
Kids aren’t uniform. They’re mercurial. Lots of kids would react like this. I can 100% believe it happened. That’s not the issue. The issue is her mother being utterly ridiculous about it.
Can we at least acknowledge that “on the floor sobbing” is also a completely over the top reaction. Does Kate sound like a bitchy pain in the ass drama queen, sure? Does Meg also sound like a complete drama queen? Yes. None of this story gives you the, YES, this is the reason for the tears we’ve been hearing about for years. Every aspect sounds overblown and wrapped in unnecessary drama.
No Danni “on the floor sobbing” about your wedding and the stress of everything is not an overblown reaction. It’s the reaction of someone who is going through many different pressures all at the same time.
You’re looking at the bridesmaid issue as one isolated event, but it wasn’t.
If you read the book as I have started, you will see how things were building up to an escalation point.
So your father backing out of your wedding at the last minute with a supposed health issue and not answering your calls, the ordinary stress of planning a huge wedding that will be televised in four days, and someone last minute wanting all bridesmaid dresses redone wouldn’t stress you at all? Not to mention stress from the media constantly on the attack and getting death threats for tainting the royal blood.
You are conveniently forgetting that Meghan was also dealing with Bad Dad at the same time and under huge stress. Ordinary wedding stress would be bad but the stress of a royal wedding and Thomas Markle would be debilitating. This was probably jut the straw that triggered Meghan. It was not an “over the top reaction”, it was literally the outlet for all the problems combined.
And actually in the book, Kate acknowledges that she made Meghan cry. Of course it is Harry telling us this, so I don’t expect much traction in the media on this.
The most shocking thing about this bridesmaid story is who the leak was. I won’t spoil it for anyone, but it is shocking.
Reminder, when the obvious t r o l l s show up, as they’ve been doing all over these threads for days? Simply respond ‘troll’ and let Kaiser take out the trash.
No you can’t. How someone reacts under attack and pressure is none of you business.
No, “we” cannot. After everything Meghan went through? I wouldn’t be on the floor sobbing, I’d be on a plane back to America sobbing, and telling Harry if he wanted me he could follow, but I was done.
@Danni @Emily_c: You both don’t really have a handle on Meghan do you. She doesn’t give in. She’s responsible, respectful and cooperative. She’s as strong as stone but the sheer amount of stress she was being put through would be enough to break anyone. Doing a runaway bride thing is childish and selfish unless you found out your betrothed is a mass murderer or is already married. That is not who Meghan is. PLUS it would be giving in to the BRF and they’d be rubbing their hands in glee and congratulating each other that they pushed her out before the wedding. Revenge is a dish best served cold and this is the sweet revenge both Harry and Meghan are enjoying.
Danni, how well could _you_ have handled this insane pressure? Meghan was getting it from all sides while dealing with a mega-stressful wedding. She wasn’t causing the drama—Kate, Meghan’s dad, and the press was. And she had no control over a bunch of lunatic moving parts.
I guess you can also throw in the games Angela Kelly was playing with the tiara and the hair dresser too. The whole palace/media machine was coming down on Meghan to drive her either crazy or out of town or both. Waity was definitely in on the plot.
Glad that when ur dad betrays u to the Brit tabloids on top of ur sister in law saying u have to redo all the flower girl and bridesmaid dresses u would be cool as a cucumber. U know what I like about u ur empathety to others and ur ability not to lie how u would be a girl boss
I agree with @Danni which wont be popular. I think describing Meghan as lying on the floor sobbing sounds very exaggerated. kate, on the other hand, seems to have been deliberately difficult. Even if she had a packed schedule (ha, ha), I’m sure one of their team of nannies could have taken Charlotte to get the dress altered.
What child would care if the dress was too baggy? Kids will happily wear the ugliest, most garishly colored Halloween costumes everyday if you’d let them. Or go to school in their Spiderman pjs.
The whole thing is ridiculous.
Well, a 3yo could cry because she just doesn’t like the dress. But too long? My daughter would wear dresses for 6yo at this age to ensure it is long like a princess dress. Kate is insane. I believe there was time to tailor the dress, or this is what Kate wanted and then made drama out of it (won’t put deceit past her: “make it bigger! Char will grow into it by wedding day!”) .
Am not convinced Charlotte cried, more like kHate was the one who had a tantrum about it which possibly set Charlotte off.
The was def kHate trying to sabotage the wedding AND make it about her – she wanted to remake those dresses to what SHE wanted them to look like.
Wonder if this will finally get kHate to issue a statement about the incident.
I said on here a few weeks ago – kHate made Meghan cry on multiple occasions which is why she was wary of both of the Wails at the funeral.
@whatever – I was thinking that too. My first reaction was “what a brat” and my second was “guess she got that from her mom!”
Charlotte did not cry at all. KKKhate invented a story and made it sound bad and spinned it a way to lead meghan to believe Charlotte could fck up the wedding if she didn’t redo the dresses cuz she was gonna pull a tantrum. Manipulative btch
If Charlotte cried, it would be because Kate pinched her or jabbed her with a pin.
She cried because of Kate. Remember that video of William unleashing on the person he thought was “following” them? She egged him on and escalated it. This is her nature.
More likely, a little girl cried because her mother made her try on a dress and was mean about it.
Oh I’m sure Khate looked at it, bitched loudly about it not fitting properly, got all in a huff, wrenched it off her and it upset Char.
Yeah, Kate never takes responsibility for any damn thing, so it makes sense she’s pinning this on her daughter. Straight from the narcissists’ playbook. Man, her kids are gonna be forever just trying to get a grip on Kate making them feel like crap all the timr.
There goes the early years expert for you. A child cries for a dress, let’s change the whole party’s dresses!! Unbelievable.
Yeah I said the same thing somewhere else on this site or elsewhere, that there’s no way Charlotte made the observation at 3 years old (she was 3 in 2018, not 4 when the Sussexes got married) that her dress was too baggy and too long. Kate either made a face or a negative comment complaining about the fit of the dress and Charlotte probably cried based on her mom’s reaction. And Kate turned that into “my daughter cried because of the fit.”
I have a 4 year old little girl who loves dresses, sometimes she’ll try on a dress, love it and refuse to take it off even if I say to her it’s a little big or long….if Charlotte did cry over the dress she was most likely taking cue from her dramatic mama
I read this as Kate projecting her feelings onto Charlotte – maybe Charlotte was truly uncomfortable and upset, maybe not, but it sounds much more sympathetic to pretend that Meghan made the child cry. It’s back to the Cambridge’s habit of using their children as the excuse, and it’s pathetic. I can hear the strain in Meghan’s texts as she tries to stay civil. I also give Kate much less credit than Harry does – I think she was trying to throw a wrench or two in the works. It’s almost like she was treating it like her own wedding, involving her own designer and stressing about a party for the pageboys (?).
I’m not a mom myself, but l can definitely see a three year old feeding off the mood of her mother. And maybe Charlotte didn’t want to try on the dress at that time and got cranky about it. But Kate’s motive in creating additional stress to an already stressed-out bride in fraught circumstances is so appalling.
Or…her mother lied.
Not really. I remember having really big feelings and reactions to various outfits if I didn’t like how they looked or felt. I’m not totally neurotypical, so perhaps that’s why, but I wouldn’t consider myself to have been a “drama queen.”
@Betsy There’s lots of reasons Charlotte might have been uncomfortable -a baggy dress, too long, uncomfortable material, wanted it to be rainbow sequins – absolutely. But that seems far away from “Charlotte’s been crying about it all morning, the dresses must all be remade”. That’s not something that comes from a child. I could see a child refusing to wear a dress, but not insisting that another one be made!
Here’s the thing: If Charlotte hated the dress that much, Kate could have withdrawn her from the wedding party entirely. If I thought my daughter was truly miserable or likely to act up during such a public event, all because of a dress? I’d just pull the plug, end of. The focus should be on Harry and Meghan’s day, and if my kid was going to be a distraction, she’ll wear a comfy dress and sit in the pew next to me where I can keep tabs on her! Anything to avoid burdening Meghan with more crap.
Meghan had other attendants that day; I don’t think it was officially announced that Charlotte would be a flower girl, but even if it was, most people would not think twice about a three year old not being in the wedding party. It would mean that Keen missed out on a photo op “wrangling” the children, though.
but the importance of the early years childhood development!!! maybe don’t throw tantrums that your children mirror…
Or Kate is a liar and little Charlotte gave no f**ks about the dress.
Kate has her own professional tailors on standby, tailoring her coat dresses within an inch of their wooly lives. If she wanted Charlotte’s dress to fit, she could easily get it personally altered as long as she kept the length and silhouette.
My guess is Khate purposely gave the wrong measurements and was waiting until the last minute to inform Meghan of the results. Her “personal wedding designer” agrees? Yeah, okay. Have Sarah Burton personally alter the dress then? This lady is a piece of work and, I agree with everyone, extremely wasteful.
I made my little girl (4) a dress, exactly as she specified (long, black and a pink zipper!). We did several fittings (I use to sew custom gowns – I was going overboard a bit for my own fun). She cried so hard when it was finished saying only “I HATE IT.”. She had tried it on a few times prior to fit and never said a word lol.
Kids are funny.
And I also believe she was taking cues from Kate.
Or it simply did not happen and Khate made it up because she doesn’t seem to have much of a grasp of truth.
Nope. This is crazy-making. Along with the rehearsal dinner issue, the Baby Brain tantrum, the William interaction with the finger in the face, all still within days of the wedding? This comes across as plotting to push Meg to call off the wedding
@Carrot My thoughts exactly! Karenton palace was in full on panic mode!
I fully agree. I replied to a previous post that this was designed to sabotage the wedding. I beleive this was done with the help of Thomas Markle, who did so for 30 pieces of silver, just who paid them? And I’m not talking about the British media, but someone within the house of Windsor. You have your own parent willingly undermine you in front of your enemies, you are fair game.
It’s not a stretch to see this sort of interference on behalf of a palace
What did I miss about the rehearsal dinner story?? I thought I had read every single Celebitchy post about the book but must have missed something 👀
I think it’s in regards to Kate and William changing the seating cards without permission. Or at least insisting upon it. So they didn’t sit next to their spouse.
@SussexWatcher My bad, I meant the rehearsal. Kate had an issue with the schedule
I think it’s British (or at least royal) tradition that you not sit with your spouse at formal functions. The thinking being that you’ll meet more people that way and the crowd will mix better? American thinking imo is the opposite. We seat you with people you know so you’ll feel more comfortable and relaxed.
Anyway the Wails took it upon themselves to change the seating arrangements to suit themselves. Who does that at someone else’s party??
They just can’t stand being together these 2!!!
Every time I see about the spouses sitting together, my mind goes to 2005 Pride and Prejudice, where Mr Collins is reprimanded for trying to sit next to Charlotte, Lizzies friend/his wife. Dame Judy Dench shouts, Mr Collins! You can’t sit next to your wife! And that’s how Lizzie ends up sitting where she and Mr Darcy can moon at each other.
So in the 1800s aristocracy, total faux pas. At a family wedding? Pffft
@Carrot, so now Kate had an issue with the scheduling of the rehearsal dinner, too? Seriously? Was there ANYTHING about this wedding that Kate did not have an issue with?
What an utter b!tch. She may have been FFQ, but she seemed confused about the fact that she was *not* the bride, and this was not her wedding— so her (many) opinions were irrelevant. Unreal
@Lorelei just the rehearsal — I corrected myself before. I meant Kate had a scheduling issue w the rehearsal and I wrote it wrong. Just the rehearsal I meant!
Still seems like K & W set out to do as much damage as they could get away with in hopes that Meghan would lose her shit and bail
Like a 3 year old is crying because the dress doesn’t fit her/? Are you kidding me? If she’s crying it’s because she’s hungry/has to poop/literally anything other than vanity. Toddlers wear ill-fitting clothes (assuming the dress was ill-fitting, which I remain doubtful of) all the time and perfectly fine with that! Kate, you beast.
Exactly! 100% made up or caused by Kare on purpose.
You know what f Kate for that. How old was a Charlotte during this like 5?6? My 4 yr old is going to be a flower girl this summer and we’ve shown her a few of the options her aunt likes for the wedding and she’s cried about each one. Because she’s 4 and a kid and that’s what they do.
It’s a boho style wedding so I promise you nothing is overly fancy or frilly or uncomfortable. In fact my SIL is going above and beyond to suggest options that she thinks would be comfortable for a child.
Want to know something kids are dictators who will decide that they need to be a cat for a whole day. You don’t change the outfit four days before a major event because of them.
Things I would have thought an early years expert would know…
Kate forgot to consult her pie chart.
Bwahahahaha!!!!
Oh no, I didn’t see your comment had appeared when I wrote mine! Totally agree with everything you said here.
Charlotte was 3! Maybe she cried because she didn’t want to wear the dress at all in the first place but a 3 year old doesn’t cry and make the observation that a dress is too baggy or too long. That was all Kate.
“ Want to know something kids are dictators who will decide that they need to be a cat for a whole day…”
🤣🤣🤣🤣 When I was five, I pretended I was Secret Squirrel for a whole weekend. Fortunately, my parents were cool with it.
One of my favorite Twitter threads ever was a mom trying to wrangle her 4 year old son into his clothes for preschool. Out of nowhere, he refused to get dressed because he was “scared of his pants”! This went on for a couple of days, and then it was over. The thread that tweet created was hilarious! I never had kids, but I sure could see the humor in most of the situations. That being said, I would most likely lose my damn mind if I had a kid who went into tyrant mode for no discernible reason. I have to give all the mamas out there a huge “atta girl!” When it comes to child rearing.
The article adds: “However sources have continued to suggest that Meghan was being difficult and that Kate went round with flowers not to ‘apologise’ but as a ‘classy’ gesture to ‘keep the peace’.”
Bull. Sh-t.
They just can’t stop. Saying Meghan “snapped” at Kate to “take it to the tailor.” I mean, what else was she supposed to say? Kate was deranged. Who says “remake all the dresses” four days before the wedding? Take. It. To. The. Tailor.
And she ran it by her own wedding designer? Cuckoo bananas.
And Charlotte cried? Probably because her mom was going batsh-t crazy. Poor child.
It was Meghan’s wedding; she was allowed to be a little difficult four days before the big event. And Kate was entirely out of line to a) speak to Sarah Burton at Alexander McQueen about it, b) insist that all the dresses had to be completely remade, and c) tell Meghan that she needed to throw at a party for the page boys. Who does that? Especially when Meghan was dealing with her father at the time.
But she wasn’t being difficult. She anticipated this issue and had her tailor ready. What other response was she suppose to have thar wasn’t “difficult “?
The tailor is waiting — at your house! You don’t even have to leave your property. You don’t have to get in a car. Just walk to the room where the tailor is waiting
@Carrot
I don’t think Kate lived at KP at the time?
@Tessa, hadn’t the W&K fam moved full-time to KP a year+ before? All Kate had to do was take Charlotte to a different room of the palace
They were in London because George was still in school at the time. So it wasn’t a matter of distance. At the time, Kate, William and the kids were still living under the same same roof in Kensington Palace. It likely would have been a 5-minute walk at most.
I can’t imagine how much Sarah Burton rolled her eyes when she got a phone call from Kate complaining about Charlottes givenchy dress. If Sarah said anything negative, it was prob bc she was ticked M went to CWK and Stella M for her dresses. And I don’t even know that she cared enough to be negative. I just can’t believe Kate pulled the “my wedding designer agrees with me” line.
Possibly it was just a lie. I’d not be surprised if Kate is a pathological liar.
Kate trash talking Meghan’s pick of Givenchy to Meghan’s face is basically what she did. “I called my wedding tailor and she said blah blah blah. And you know, it’s MCQUEEN!!! British, which you should have done. Blah blah blah.” Kate “knew” about the stress Meghan was under the same way she “knows” about the cost of living crisis. She hears it then decides it doesn’t apply to her life. Let’s not give Kate credit for giving keep the peace flowers, either. She was gaslighting Meghan as she then turned around and wore white to the wedding.
I wonder if she realized that the designer at Givenchy was British.
It’s such a Karen line! Khate is a Karen. What a surprise said no one ever.
Event to remake the dresses they (dresses and Charlotte/other children) WOULD STILL HAVE HAD TO GO TO THE TAILOR!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can you really snap at somebody in a text? Is there a snap emoji or something? Unless cuss words are used, snapping is in the eye of the beholder.
Well, I think Meghan certainly succeeded. All those full stops after every word certainly sound snappy.
KM is reputed to have written an apology note given to Meghan with the flowers. Can’t wait to hear what that said, and if the Middletons or the Palace continue twisting the truth ………..
@Rapunzel, that is infuriating. At this point I really wish Meghan would #releasethenote so everyone could see that Kate apologized, obviously because she knew she had done something she needed to apologize for (and for Kate, that’s probably a pretty high bar…).
@ThatsNotOkay, I think you can snap/be snarky in a text— and if anyone could manage to do it, it would be Kate.
And the fact that she not only contacted Sarah Burton, but threw it into THE BRIDE’S face that Sarah “agreed” with her is so wildly inappropriate and tacky.
God, Kate sounds positively insufferable in every way
I would also love to see that note!
Karen of Wails indeed.
Nasty person.
“And said she had discussed the issue with her ‘own wedding designer’ who agreed”
Excuse me but is this something we are doing now, as an invited guest to a wedding do we now need our own “wedding designer”? WTF does Kate think she is to insist that any bride remake dresses to suit her? Someone seriously needs to tell her to get tae f*ck.
Imagine being the wedding designer and Kate calls about. . . . Someone else’s wedding. Poor designer.
Wasn’t that sooooo over the top? Just ridiculous levels of Karenning. Who behaves like this???
And even if the dresses had been remade, they STILL would have needed to be tailored. So either way, Karen of Wails (props to whoever came up with that) still would need to take Charlotte to a tailor.
Clearly, she was going out of her way to make Meg’s life miserable, even before the wedding. What a B.
Not to mention what actual designer would say “yes, multiple dresses need to be remade DAYS before the event”? IF Kate reached out to anyone I’m sure they would have advised she see a tailor
ETA – Iforget I just saw your comment saying much the same, totally agree with you
Meghan was dealing with so much and Kate knows how difficult it is to plan a wedding on such a large scale. Kate is such a jerk for not just going to the tailor that Meghan had on standby. What a jerk. I can’t stand her or her violent, hateful husband.
THIS. Which adds more credence to speculations made above that this was all done to push the bride over the edge.
Clearly, the tailor that Meghan had on standby AT THE PALACE wasn’t good enough for our precious Kate 🙄
As an amateur seamstress who knows a few professional seamstresses…I call BS on the ‘my wedding designer agrees they need to be remade.’ Tailoring something to be smaller is a zillion times easier than letting it out, particularly with unforgiving fabrics like what Charlotte’s dress is made out of. Remaking ALL of them is just absurd, even just one.
Also, 100% Kate pushed Charlotte to feel awful in it. Kids take so many social cues from their parents. Charlotte looked beautiful in the dress and flower crown. All her mum had to do was tell her she looked beautiful and make her feel comfortable, and all of it would’ve been avoided.
If only Kate knew an early years expert to help with this situation…
That’s the thing. Did charlotte put the dress on and immediately start crying bc it was too big? Or did her mom start making rude remarks about the dress and how charlotte looked in it before she started crying? Either way, she’s 3. Kate used her daughter to try and make Meghan feel bad.
Absolutely. I hated princessy dresses and skirts as a young kid, and always wanted to feel more ‘grown-up’ in less poufy things. However, if an adult complimented my outfit and made me feel special, it completely changed how I felt, and I know I was a strong-willed kid. I really took to heart what adults said to me, because, that’s how kids are at that age. It’s all about relationship management.
IForget, I’ve sewed for most of my life and I agree that tailoring something to make it smaller is now the misery of trying to make something bigger–you only have so much fabric to work with.
I think people tend to forget that Wails is not a critical thinker. I don’t think she understands how this makes her look.
There is a photo of the text messages on twitter (supposedly between Kate and Meghan). It clearly shows that Kate begins the discussion with Charlotte crying and so forth. When I read the exchange, I got hung up on her demanding the dresses be remade. So, how many people would have agreed with her? How many people would have thought that was a reasonable demand? The crazy train forgot a passenger.
It looks as if the little Mulroney girl’s dress had more “pouf” to the skirt? Like a more starchy, crinoline effect? It looks really full and crisp. I compare with Charlotte’s, whose dress looked a bit shorter and limp? Are my eyes playing tricks on me? Could be in the pressing of the dress I suppose?
Tension and misunderstandings and tears are part of so much wedding planning these days, but how many people have a twisted version of events fed to the tabloids. Again and again this is Harry’s point. Dysfunction is one thing, spinning it for the media is the deal breaker.
At the same time, the way Meghan got all tearful and reluctant to speak during the Oprah interview also made it sound a LOT more sinister than it actually was, so…
Except it was that sinister because Kate activated her white woman tears™, and nothing people like more to do than to come to the aid of a white woman in peril. Meghan also knew that William and Kate deliberately related the story to Camilla, knowing full well that Camilla would leak the information (as she had done on numerous occasions before 2018).
The idea that a child would burst into tears over a dress being too long or baggy? Maybe this is just in poor families like mine, but when I played dress up with my sisters or cousins most of the clothes were too “big” and no one ever cried you just had fun. Even when I was a flower girl at 6, my dress was a little too long because we lived several states away and they ordered one size bigger to accommodate any growth spurts that might happen. My grandmother pinned it up for the big day, and I was able to reuse the dress for years afterwards. Just unbelievably rude to throw this kind of fit over a little girl’s dress for someone else’s wedding.
Literally all my clothes were too big for me at one point, as you say, so I could grow into them. Also, things don’t need to be skin tight on a child??!? Charlotte looked gorgeous, her hair was shiny and lovely, had a beautiful flower crown, the dress was adorable, I really don’t understand the problem here?
wanting the dress to be more closely fitted – on a three year old – is super sketch in itself.
I mean we weren’t wealthy but kids can be insane. My sister wouldn’t wear buttons. She HATED them, nobody knew or knows why to this day. Least of all my sister. LOL
@Emmi She must cringe at Kate’s entire wardrobe LOL.
Oh God I didn’t even think about that. LOL
My niece wouldn’t wear buttons either. She thought they looked like eyes.
Pictures of Kate must make her break out in a rash lol
I’m laughing at the idea that mentioning Charlotte in Harry’s memoir is a breach of privacy when one of the many different versions of this story had Meghan bullying Charlotte. That was okay, but not Harry finally correcting the record about what happened.
Yes. Someone morphed it into Meghan and her friends laughed at Charlotte and called her chubby. Where’s the big outrage over that lie?
I wonder now if Kate said the too big dress made Charlotte look fat/chubby and that’s why Charlotte cried. That being the truth tracks with how the Wails project all the time.
@Rapunzel, that’s my guess. And Charlotte would know that is a fate worse than death!
This sounds a lot less dramatic than I imagined it to be, frankly. Yeah, Kate sounds annoying and clearly took herself too seriously. Also seems like she lost sight of what’s realistic (re-doing the dresses was not) but can we remember that she was a few weeks postpartum and apparently dealing with a toddler who was supposed to wear a dress she hated? No? I guess I’m going to be accused to defending a horrible person again but really, I expected more drama. She came by and apologized in person with flowers. She was wrong, she recognized it, she rectified it. What happened in the aftermath with the press is a whole different matter and not to be excused.
I do wonder why the kids weren’t measured by whoever made the dresses. They all looked super cute in the end though.
Because the dresses were made in France
Considering the age of the bridal party, likely the dresses were all made a little bigger than the measurements with the expectation that they would be taken in. Kids at that age grow so quickly and at unexpected times that I’m pretty sure every dress was “too long” so they could have enough material to hem them. Most bridal shops encourage this and is probably why they had a tailor on hand all day for alterations.
The dresses were based off the measurements.
Remember we can’t excuse Kate’s behavior here as being post partum
Bc we are not allowed to talk about her hormones!!!!!!
But in all honesty, we cannot act like the press issue is a separate one here. It’s part of this. The fact that Kate or her mother ran to Camilla T with a blatantly false story and that lie has been allowed to stand for YEARS – that’s the reason we all know about this incident. That’s the reason Harry is talking about it. If Kate had just kept her mouth shut and not lied, we wouldn’t even be having this discussion.
“Remember we can’t excuse Kate’s behavior here as being post partum
Bc we are not allowed to talk about her hormones!!!!!!”
LOL
@Emmi While I’d think, “meh” about the dress drama in a normal wedding, I think taken in the context of the insane nonsense going on with her Dad – not knowing if he was coming or if he really was sick / potentially in danger of losing his life / sold out his own daughter, this was such unnecessary drama from Kate and required a lot of work emotionally and otherwise. I’m guessing Kate has her own tailor on constant standby because her dresses are always as tight as possible in every spot of her body – especially being postpartum she probably had someone on call. She could have handed it off to her staff – politely said, “No worries, I have someone that can handle this – I know you have a lot on your plate” or anything else than “they have to be remade”. I’d be stressed over that and I wasn’t getting married in front of hundreds of millions of people with my Dad on the front cover of every newspaper.
Reasonable up until demanding ALL the other dresses get remade
she probably meant redesigned. taking in a garment is super simple. Kate was way out of line! all that was needed was planned for alterations.
Well, the point is that it wasn’t overly dramatic but still got leaked as the opposite to the press and was used as a weapon against Meghan. That story really started it all. When the reality was, as you say,
@Emmi, Kate was annoying, took herself too seriously, and lost sight of what was a realistic, having the dresses totally remade 4 days before the wedding. Those details are very annoying, especially to a stressed out bride moving to a new country, joining the RF, getting married in front of the entire world, and dealing with her dad ghosting her phone calls right before the wedding. There’s just an incredible lack of empathy and a real effort to be difficult. Understandably, Kate was postpartum, although don’t mention that because you can’t talk about her hormones. It’s just not done and William might put his finger in your face if you do.
My ex and I went to another country for his best friend’s wedding, which was where his fiancee was from. Two days before the wedding, the bride’s best friend dropped out of the bridal party, and she was the only other one besides her sister who was in the party. She was stressed and honestly a bit abrupt and rude with us. My ex took me aside and said how angry he was that his best friend wasn’t telling her to back off and to treat us like guests. I looked at him completely perplexed and said ‘this is her wedding…we are guests in their home, and we are guests in another country. Maybe she’s not her best self right now, but her wedding isn’t about us, and we are lucky to be able to have this experience. I would hope that if I were in her shoes, I wouldn’t be judged so harshly by those around me.’ My ex was obviously stressed himself, being in a new country where they didn’t speak our language etc, but that’s exactly the point. The wedding isn’t about him.
This wedding was not about Kate, or Charlotte, or anyone besides Harry and Meghan. Luckily, my ex realised straight away he was being an arsehole, and he ended up being quite supportive of her which was lovely to see. I just don’t understand why it’s so hard for people here to admit they’re wrong. I think that’s one of the deep sicknesses here (in the UK).
Emmi – Harry’s quote literally says the dresses were made from measurements. Kate’s behavior was the same before and after being postpartum so I just cannot excuse her for any reason. She’s still rude, demanding, a liar, and a Karen, regardless of when she had a baby. And she had the opportunity for YEARS to correct this story – long after when her postpartum period would have ended – and she chose to let Meghan continue to be absolutely vilified in the press. She’s a nasty abuser, just like her husband.
Kate should have been well familiar with how tailoring works. She has way too many bespoke outfits to think otherwise.
Even with Kate’s later apology, one can’t undo badgering an overly stressed bride, which maybe was the intention? With Kate’s costume resources, she should have offered tailoring to any flower girl weeping over her dress length. My daughter was in numerous weddings and we were always positive, supportive and ready for our child to go down the aisle, despite a rare complication or unexpected tasks.
I also think with Kate’s “hormone taboo”,she was covering her own misunderstanding of the term “baby brain” and thought Meghan was taking a jab at her intellectual deficiencies and sharing laughs with her accomplished friends about Kate’s dullness. Carole likely clued her in and she had to act as if she was insulted by Meghan’s “overfamiliarity.”
Some of my most hurtful memories weren’t all that dramatic, is all I can say to this really.
Page boys are the role that George and the other boys played? Why would they need a party!?
Because I’m sure in Kate’s mind you must show special deference and gratitude that the heir to the heir to the heir showed up and did something.
If George hadn’t been involved, I doubt she would have said a peep.
@Noki, MTE. A party for the pageboys? Seriously? And this is something Kate only thought of the week of the wedding? GFTO
The point of the party was probably to remind the pageboys that George is FFFK (at that point.)
Honestly, on its face, its a nice gesture – hey, all these kids are here from out of town, lets have a get together and let the kids blow off some steam, we are happy to host, that way they know each other before the wedding.
But we all know that was not what was being discussed.
What a bitch ass Karen. Who does this to a bride 4 days before the wedding? What a piece of work.
I am so happy she is being exposed for who she is – and by the unrequited love of her life at that!
Chickens coming home to roost. Couldn’t happen to a better bitch. And on her birthday lol
I honestly think none of this would have been a big deal if KP squashed it in the press and didn’t use it to smear M.
People argue over wedding sh*t, it happens. We know that. In the end, the girl had a dress that fit and Kate apologized. That should have been the end. That is a clear cut story that has a beginning, middle and end.
Should have been the end of it – And it would have been, and we could say sh*t happens if KP didn’t go on to push this false narrative of white tears onto M.
Agreed. Then we were getting folllow-up stories about how magnanimous Kate was, in sending Meghan flowers, but Meghan felt it was too late and acted coolly…toward the flowers. Or shut the door in Kate’s face. It was insane, and everyone who wrote such narratives is institutionally insane as well.
So many questions- if a Charlotte was crying, was it because Kate told her she looked terrible in a dress that was too big, too long, and too baggy? And also, why is the bride being bothered with dress fittings? Kate should have handled this herself…or passed it off to her nanny, or her mummy, or Jason.
Excellent points @JP. I believe she took it to the bride 4 days before the wedding to add further stress. That was the agenda. She said she was aware of what was going on with Meghan’s father, so she went in for the kill. She was very keen on making life a living hell for Meghan all the way up to the altar, and afterwards, especially during Meghan’s pregnancies. Even her choice of color (WHITE) on Meghan’s day reveals who she is at her core.
She is horrible and vile. I am so glad Harry is exposing her for who she is.
This has such “Brown Scars White Tears” overtones to it. The whole story is nauseating especially the manner in which it was handled in the press.
Yes SIde Eye! Fantastic book, highly recommend to anyone who hasn’t read it.
I agree. Meghan has shown time and time again, she tries to give people an out, and give them a chance to save face. She tries to be diplomatic, which is admirable, and shows incredible grace under pressure. She tried to give an out with the baby brain comment and saying all my friends and I joke about it, tried to give an out with the comment about what is going on with her father, she in the Oprah interview that despite everything, ‘Kate is a good person.’
Kate is literally drowning herself in a puddle for no dang reason. When I say or do embarassing or self-absorbed things, especially at the expense of someone else, I NEVER dig my heels in, and yet that’s what she does, time and time again.
@IForget thank you for your awesome response. I agree with everything you just said. Meghan is a lot more gracious than me. Harry found an amazing woman. I’d have popped Kate in the mouth a long time ago. I can’t stand bullies and she triggers me to no end.
What’s amazing is how blown up this situation is because everyone (especially the press) believes Charlotte had a meltdown over the fit of the dress. Why are people believing Kate, a known liar, about whether or not Charlotte cried? Is there corroboration of this?
Does anyone know why only Charlotte’s dress did not fit ?
Had previous fittings also been missed ?
I think it was made purposely big so that it could be altered later to fit exactly. Kids grow spontaneously so they probably do it that way on purpose. What I am unclear about is when Kate knew that Ajay would be at KP to adjust the fit. Did she find out that day? Or had Meghan told her beforehand and she just didn’t go that morning. It seems like Ajay was there at 8am and Kate left them waiting while texting that the dresses needed to be totally remade.
Kate and her mother have form for being rude (and especially obnoxious to staff). There’s a story about Carole being banned from one designer because she was so damn rude and demanding. There’s a reason that Kate has no manners, she has no home training.
Carol(E) was particularly awful to the original designer for her outfit for W&K’s wedding. Pitched a fit, yanked the commission after the outfit was already done, and went to Catherine Walker. That’s right, an old dress pattern made for Diana was used for her wedding outfit. You just know that’s what she wanted to do all along, but knew she’d be accused of cosplaying late Diana if she’d gone there first.
One more reason for William to be “incandescent with rage”! Charlotte is name checked in Harry’s book. Horrors! It’s only because her mother dragged her into this whole bonkers 💩 show which she herself started. Don’t forget Kate went on to wear a dress to the wedding in a color so pale it appeared white. Does Kate hire herself out to sabotage people’s weddings?
Since when is a wedding about the flower girl dresses? WTF.
Are we really surprised by this story? The bitch wore Gaslighter White with pale yellow undertones to her SIL’s wedding.
LOL. I’m clapping for “Gaslighter White.” That’s genius
“Gaslighter White” ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
omg. THat’s the best. Someone called it “petty bitch white” the other day which I also love but I think Gaslighter White is my new favorite.
LOL @Lucy and @Lorelei that’s how I see it. The dress is white but the pale yellow undertones allow her to have plausible deniability with her stans and the media that coddles her to no end and that’s why she chose it.
Omg @Becks1 petty bitch white is awesome! I love this site!
Gaslighter White is another entry on the Pantone color wheel.
“My wedding designer agrees with me” is the new “speak to the manager”.
And seriously, what else would a designer do but agree with Kate? She’s obnoxious & arrogant, a nightmare to deal with in any circumstance.
Just like Willy, just like Charles.
Poor Meg. No matter what she did it was always go to end badly.
@Kokiri you’re right! It’s the new I wanna speak to your manager. LOL
I’ll add that “get your finger out of my face” is the new “I’m speaking.”
Where is Camilla Tominey who should be called on this. She was insisting after the Oprah interview that her source that Meghan made Kate cry was true and she had verified it.
Her source was Camilla, Queen Consort.
Everyone has said better things about Kate’s insane awfulness but can I just say I love the tidbit that Meghan’s friend was with her when Kate apologised! “A witness that can presumably confirm the events” sniffs daily mail LOLLLLLLLL I can’t.
Kate owns thousands of custom made dresses, so she definitely knows that you overestimate on the fit before tailoring in person because it’s easier to take a garment in than let it out. That means she must have just wanted to be Duchess Difficult.
I’m not surprised at all..this is all she’s Interested in…clothing, perfect fitting, appearances. No sympathy, no empathy for someone’s troubles, nothing. And this is further proof that everything she wears or her children wear is planned and organized to an extreme level… I’ve read several funny comments here for Kate’s “pinterest board” with diana’s and Meghan’s appearances and clothes and I often laughed. Not any more… she’s a mannequin for clothes and nothing else…I’m horrified at the messages she sends to her children and especially her daughter…
Kate is all about wasting money on unsuitable clothing and expensive jewelry. But ‘perfect fitting’? Rarely if ever do Kate’s clothes fit correctly. Her clothes are often overly-tight, badly hemmed, and poorly tailored overall.
Nota- I’m now wondering if that poor tailoring is due in part to last minute remakes/demands.
“Harry writes: ‘Meg didn’t reply to Kate straight away.”
How much you want to bet that the Future Queen Consort was also pissed that Meghan didn’t respond to her immediately and kept her waiting till the next morning for a response: How dare she? Doesn’t she know who I am? Doesn’t she know her place?
I wouldn’t be surprised if it was also Meghan texting that Kate needed to go to the tailor “as all the other mums are doing.” I can see Kate being offended by that, thinking: But I’m not like all the other mums! I’m higher in rank! I’m the Duchess of Cambridge, wife to the heir, mother to the future king etc etc….
@Midnight, I agree 100%. Being made to wait even one day to hear back from Meghan (who Kate KNEW was busy dealing with all of her father’s last-minute BS) probably made Kate seethe. Kate was probably all, “Doesn’t she KNOW WHO I AM?!”
“and MY wedding designer agrees!”
Meghan is nicer than me because my response would be:
So? Too bad. Your wedding was 7 years ago and Sarah Burton was the worst choice to carry on McQueen’s legacy anyway. F*** all the way off.
Seriously, I woulda been ready to throw down over that. Like anyone gives a shit what Kate’s designer thinks.
MY wedding designer agrees so it must be so. My way or the highway.
what a freaking bitch Kate is. I would have literally told her off and told her that her kid does not NEED to be in my wedding.
@Kaiser, have you seen this TikTok (via Twitter), which sums up the audacity of Kate perfectly?
https://twitter.com/ColombesIrene/status/1611568599814082563?s=20&t=Kvf4P3aASQHz-Yyuv4LbTQ
@Nikki that is great! Is there a bride-to-be or former bride in America who is going to side with Kate over this? Custom made Givenchy flower girl dresses, and Kate Middleton wants them remade four days before the wedding.
I read somewhere else that the dresses were made from measurements that were submitted, not from fittings, so who else thinks that Kate submitted wonky measurements on purpose??
Fancy, I wondered about that too. If Mrs. Wails gave bad measurements either on purpose or because she wasn’t smart enough to take Charlotte to a tailor or seamstress to get properly measured.
This whole thing reeks of disrespect on the part of Kate. She may have been post partum, but she clearly did not care about Meghan or the stress she was undergoing. All she thought of was herself and how she was feeling in that moment.
Meghan is a far bigger person than i. Firstly, the kid pitching a fit about a dress is ridiculous. Kids only care if its too tight or itchy.
I think I would have told her “fine, we will work around one less flowergirl/attendant ” (whatever she was called.) AND….if its too uneven, we can do without George also. That might have shut Kate up. I have zero tolerance for such nonsense…. especially four days before a wedding.
Yup, I would’ve said Charlotte can whatever whatever dress she wants since she’ll be sitting in the pews with her parents now.
It’s not her fault but I’m not putting up with that mess 4 days before my wedding. Let’s make it easy for everyone and just remove her from the wedding party.
Is Kate a mother or not? You don’t ask another to alter plans because your toddler says so. This illustrates everything I need to know about this woman.
Since we are talking about the dress incident, there is an excerpt of the book online showing that it was Camilla who told Camilla Tominey about the bridesmaids dress story. Apparently William and Kate went to dinner with C and C and told them about the incident when H and M were doing the Oceania tour.
Just putting this out there because it doesn’t excuse a lot of Kate’s behaviour, but Camilla flipping the story herself adds a new layer to this, especially since a Harry confirmed that Kate did show up the next day with flowers (witnessed by Lindsay).
Yeah, I saw that.
Apparently, Camilla was leaking just as much as William and possibly more (if he used her as a proxy).
Did Camilla flip the story or did Kate? And I can see the four of them going to dinner to plot how to smash the Sussexes popularity after that successful tour. What useless people the Unroyals are!
They are all institutionally mad. The lot of them. And Camilla is excrement.
At least this partially explains that series of over-the-top articles we got a few months back about how worried the palace was about how Camilla specifically would come across in the book
Yes. This little dinner or whatever it was between the Cambridges & C&C wasn’t some innocent little thing. I believe Harry knows this. It’s not a whoops situation. It’s a “I, accidentally on purpose, said something to cover my ass”. From Will. They’re all guilty. (I will apologize for the 3rd time now for ever having defended C&C-it’s a reckoning to me to have ever believed that they weren’t complete and utter a$$holes all along-I’m sorry).
The Kirstie? Allsop story was, Kate cried because of Meghan “bullying” staff and Kate confronted Meghan?lol (Dec.2021). Tominey liked, retweeted this story, trying to negate her previous story that Crygate had anything to do with bridesmaid dresses. The palaces/BM have been using so many distraction/deflection techniques. Hard to keep everything straight. It’s why a lot of us appreciate Mic Wright’s (he’s been ongoing with this for a long time-his comments about RR’s especially Tominey are pretty awesome) and James O’Brien’s comments. I’ve been an admirer of R.S. Locke’s work too and am happy to see their work/writings acknowledged on a greater level. Still one of the best things written.
https://royalsuitor.medium.com/will-the-house-of-windsor-turn-into-a-house-of-cards-d344db7076d9
This article is almost 2 years old. It still holds today with the words and actions of the BM/BRF today.
Using your child as a weapon against your future SIL. Is a new kind of low. It’s just nice to see now how Harry and Meghan got through it all and have a happy little family. And Kate goes to bed wondering who William is cheating on her with tonight. And is stuck with it all since all she ever wanted in life is a crown on her head. And stalked him to get it.
We always suspected but this is proof that Kate is a Karen
There was so much going on that week with Meghan’s father trying to derail things. I can argue Kate had a newborn at home and had just given birth 4 weeks before. She also had to manage Charlotte and George being a bridesmaid and pageboy. However Charlotte and George had already done the same roles at Pippa’s wedding the year before so it’s not like she didn’t know what she was getting into. She simply could not bear that there was a major event she was NOT the center of attention of with stupid demands and ignoring the whole situation with Meghan’s dad. No sympathy at all??? And then out of pettiness she goes and wears a WHITE (primrose yellow, my foot) outfit at Meghan’s wedding because she’s an a**hole. And then she and William changed the place cards at their table. What a bridezilla nightmare wedding guest.
Here we go again with giving Kate the benefit of the doubt even though it’s clearly that Kate was just behaving like a bitter bitch . If the wedding was so stressful for poor hormone Kate she could have you know decline her kids being in the wedding. Kate choose to act like a Bitch towards Meghan and try to heaped as much as stress as possible on Meghan knowing full well what she was going through instead of showing compassion for Meghan kate choose this very moment to throw her weight around . Kate used her child as a weapon to harass and abuse a woman who was already going through so much. Kate doesn’t gets the benefit of the doubt because she had a baby four weeks ago having a baby especially when Kate has a fully staff and nannies on hand doesn’t mean you get to abuse people . Kate had time in her shedule to send a text message that basically berated Meghan .
If Kate was so overwhelmed or it was likely to become a distraction, she could have pulled Charlotte from the wedding party and had several plausible excuses at the ready. Charlotte was acting up, she’s too young, she’s such a tomboy she won’t wear dresses, she’s shy, she had the sniffles and couldn’t come to rehearsals…it would have been fine! Meghan had other flower girls after all. Additionally, if Kate was “concerned” about having a proper party for the pageboys, she could have offered to take it on herself or have someone at Party Pieces do it so as to be one less thing on Meghan’s plate.
I hope M did snap cause wtf?! Just take the kid and the freaking dress to the tailor!! There’s NO need to waste time and resources getting a dress re-made FOUR days before the wedding.
Katie should be glad Meghan is a lady cause doing this at such a highly stressful time on top of everything else? A lesser woman would’ve cussed Katie tf out.
I just want to add… even if it was Camilla that leaked the lie to the tabloids. Kate was not innocent in this leak. She no doubt went straight to Camilla and told her about the incident knowing full stop she would leak it. I can just picture these cohorting and plotting with one another – its no wonder they most definitely get along in that regard. I garuantee it. Also. I will not forget the simple fact that the Tatler “the great” article was damning evidence to this fact. She threw a temper tantrum, threatened lawsuits and had the entire article completely edited regarding her family and other minor details to exactly the way she wanted it but literally chose to leave in there yet again ANOTHER lie version of events of her being a victim. Karen of Wailes was 100% complicit in the leaks that went on for YeArS.
Yep 💯. And she told the story to camilla in such a way that she was the victim. After demanding the dresses be remade 4 days before the wedding. The Witches of Windsor.
This is so weird. We know Kate is obsessed with looks and is probably already imparting that to her daughter. And the four of them at dinner, mocking Harry and Meghan, that would be really hurtful as a newcomer.
It’s a pet peeve of mine when guests or members of the wedding party won’t go along with what the couple want for their own wedding.
I’ve worn bridesmaids dresses I thought were kind of ugly, but so what? It’s an honor to be asked to be in the ceremony, so you wear the dress. Their wedding, their taste, their choices. Unless someone asks you to walk down the aisle half-naked or in a twenty pound hat or something, you just wear it and smile.
Maybe Charlotte did cry. She was about four years old; kids that age can cry for irrational reasons. It was Kate’s job to sooth her and tell her she looked pretty, the dress was fine, she was going to be in a wedding and it would be such fun. That she called her OWN wedding designer and told Meg all of the dresses needed to be redone? Four days before the ceremony? Bonkers! The entitlement on this woman.
Take the kid to the tailor like the bride asked you to do. Or, since you have a newborn, have the Nanny do it. It’s not complicated.
This happened to my husband’s sister when she got married. Her fiancé’s older sister had two little boys, whom my SIL loved and who loved her back. It was a simple wedding and she didn’t assign specific outfits to them, just asked that they wear white shirts and long dark pants. That’s it. The older sister refused, said she had “already chosen” outfits for the boys, and would not budge. They walked down the aisle in hideous little safari-gear-looking ensembles. I was so furious about it, lol. I couldn’t believe someone would do that.
Kate is just a miserable bitch who thinks because she married to William that what she says so go . Its no wonder she has no friends outside of mother it clearly Kate wanted to heaped on the abuse and suffering that Meghan was going through she didn’t care about what Meghan was going through. Imagine a grown woman with three kids throw a tantrum and demanding that her future sister in law have all the kids clothes remade because Charlotte dress didn’t fitted the way kate likes then on top of it to for Kate to say my wedding designer agree with me .
My daughters were flower girls in several weddings when they were little. I bought their dresses, had the dresses tailored, made adjustments as the brides asked, and took photos of my darlings looking adorable. That was it. That’s what you’re supposed to do.
Kate is a bitch. The energy she expended on making Meghan cry should have spent on choosing a dress for herself that wasn’t so clearly white-adjacent.
(Every time I see Kate’s pale Karen dress, I think of the scene in “The Nanny,” when C.C. shows up to Fran’s wedding in a white dress and puts a pew ribbon on her head, as if it were a veil. Same energy.)
Yeah, my daughter was the flower girl when my husband’s brother got married. I went with the bride to the store and we looked at a few dresses, then decided on the one she liked. It was her wedding and my MO was to cooperate with her to the fullest. That’s what you are supposed to do.
There were so many passive aggressive layers to Kate’s texting, and then it became downright aggressive at the end. I know it’s old fashioned to do this, but couldn’t she have started with “Hi Meghan”. People don’t seem to start texts or sign off with names because there’s no need, but I think it’s a nicety. There’s also none of the British qualities she is supposed to embody. We’d normally say something like, “so sorry to bother you today of all days” etc. I suspect this kind of approach is common to polite people everywhere, but it is typically British to be very backwards about coming forwards and actually a bit embarrassed to be causing problems. But, no, Kate pushes straight in. And then there’s the emotional blackmail of a kid crying. She should have said, “Charlotte is a bit upset, but I’ve told her we’ll sort it out with Meghan today”. & wow, telling Meghan that all the dresses need to be remade. Who the hell is she! To me, it sounds as if she nattered away with some of the other mums who weren’t happy with their kids’ dresses, and stirred up some nastiness, telling them she’d head it down. Vile. As a woman to a woman on her special day, certainly one who knows what it is to marry into that family and the huge pressures, she was awful.
And we know why the other women would have joined Khate in bitching about the dresses. “That upstart, parvenu doesn’t understand anything royal and yet she’s running her own wedding. How dare she! We’ll show that American, biracial *actress* divorcee how things are run around here.”
Exactly, Jaded. Kate was probably high on leading the British mum bitching for months on end. I bet she’s never felt so important. I doubt all the mums felt like this, but she no doubt scouted out the ones she could rile up about Meghan being American, an actress, bi racial, and stunning, and got them to join her hate crusade. A tiny few of her texts and we see everything we need to know about her character.
Except the other kids were children of Meghan’s friends & wouldn’t participate in such nastiness. This was all Kate’s invention, her own little circle of bile.
I’ve always felt Big Karen Energy from Carole Middleton…can you imagine that woman organising Kate’s wedding and what a nightmare she would have been with vendors, given her party planning “empire”? Kate clearly doesn’t fall far from the tree. Although it occurs to me that when she says she ran it by her own wedding designer, something tells me that “wedding designer” in this instance = Kar(en)ol Middleton.
Also. It was clear what kind of energy Kate was bringing to this wedding when she showed up in a white dress to her in-law’s wedding. Who does that for *any* wedding, let alone one watched by millions across the globe?!? Holy moly. Yes, I know that the dress is technically a pale yellow…but this wasn’t Kate’s first rodeo. She *knew* how it would photograph. To me, that was the most telling thing of all and so when the “Meghan made Kate cry over the kids’ wedding garb” story leaked, it was OBVIOUS that Kate had been a s##t-stirring drama B all along. Jesus.
Ugh! I saw the texts. WTH? The Bride has enough stress before the wedding, much less M on a world wide wedding.
Gotta say M was correct with “The tailor is here, waiting to make any alterations needed. Been here ALL day, working with everyone. come over.”
Kate and her No, All the dresses need to be remade. 4 days before the wedding?
Geez, what total Bull!
All this about Charlotte is in tears…Yeah, she was 3. Likely over tired, or stressed out by her Mom carrying on. Does Kate not know how to help her own child calm down?
The Royal Weddings are huge productions, it is their big Ta-Dah moment.
Certainly Kate had zero reason to carry on this way to Meghan.
Kate = Drama Queen much?
It’s very weird – if the tailor was waiting at KP, it couldn’t have been more convenient for Kate and Charlotte to pop down. Unless she wasn’t at KP – was Kate maybe at her mom’s house instead? It was soon after Louis was born and she may have been finding out more about William’s avid rosebush trimming activities – maybe the prospect of having to explain her situation to an outsider made her fly off the handle even more.
Definitely possibility here! That might be how Kate ended up letting Meg know she was “going through some things.”
@Jay, even so— she could have had Nanny Maria take Charlotte to the fitting (most parents don’t have that option 24/7!). She was choosing to be bitchy to M because she thought she could get away with it. I LOVE that Harry is exposing all of her f*ckery 🥰
Let me go and read this book, tired of the bits and pieces, just got it on Audible
I was in a very similar position as Kate. My friend bought the bridesmaids dresses from a department story and had a family friend taylor them. My spaghetti strap dress was very loose on top when I picked it up just days before the wedding and I did panic a bit. Of course I didn’t have taylors at my finger tips. Still, I never went to the bride. I went to the shop I had recently bought my bridal dress from and they got me an emergency appointment. And they fixed it all up for me ( not the correct way so the seamstress told me because of time constraints ) but it looked good and was snugly on top and all was well. My point is Kate was being a complete bitch and shame on her. I certainly wouldn’t have had an ounce of panic if I was offered a top of the line taylor like Kate was. Give me a break.
Just received an email from Amazon that my order has been delayed and they will contact me when it ships. (Spare). So there goes my plans to spend many nights this week reading.
One thing i have not seen pointed out:
La Maison de Givenchy likely wouldn’t have delivered those dresses four days before the wedding. Knowing tailoring would be necessary, I’m sure they arrived at least a week or two earlier than this argument.
I suspect Kate deliberately stalled on having the dress tried on in order to throw this tantrum. The story sounds like Mwg had suggested tailoring earlier, so I think Kate was probably stalling on that too.
Deliberate sabotage sounds likely here.
Yeah, I was wondering about that cutting-it-way-close delivery as well. I wouldn’t put it past Kate to try this crap.
This was not just about Charlotte’s dress?
It was about being unkind in an intense situation.
Why make unwise demands four days before a person’s wedding?
Why impose one’s opinion on someone else’s wedding?
A few plausible reasons: envy, pulling rank, baby brain.etc.
A harbinger of things to come…..
Yes – Baby brain is a real thing.
I’ve spent all day trying to use my cognitive science degree to tell people about how baby brain is real and it’s not a bad thing. Studies have shown that pregnancy literally re-wires a mother’s brain in order to help them bond and increase the attachment between mom & baby. This is not a bad thing and does not imply that someone is stupid, incapable, or emotional.
Meghan saying Kate had baby brain was A COMPLIMENT. It means she is close with her children and there is nothing wrong with that. Saying that Meghan was using it to undermine or insult Kate is hilarious to me because what they’re basically saying is baby brain = bad. When in fact it is GOOD.
Well 2/4 or the dresses were going to by worn by children from North America (the Litt girls and Muloroney’ daughter) who were only turning up that week
Kate adding that Charlotte cried when she tried it on was not smart, given the fact that she was 3 YEARS old and could have been crying for MANY DIFFERENT REASONS. Three year olds will act like three year olds. However, 40 SOMETHING year olds on the other hand….
This just makes it look like an entitled mother raising a bratty daughter is complaining. Kate used her daughter crying for this to drive the point home that the dresses weren’t good but it makes her look really bad.
Exactly. As I said upthread, it was emotional blackmail. “Look, you made my child cry. You don’t have children, Meghan, but that’s an awful thing to have done.” Blah blah. If one of mine cried trying on a dress at that age, I’d have laughed it off and said, this is a silly thing to get worked up about, we’ll fix it with Meghan’s tailor. No doubt Kate made it worse, on purpose. I’d certainly not be telling my future sister in law that she made my child cry, her future niece. I’d say my daughter got a bit upset and I said we’d fix it, no problem. I thought she was an early years expert. Imagine how much she loved pulling this stunt and making Meghan feel guilty for making a child cry.
completely agree w/ you sparrow. She was using emotional blackmail to try and guilt Meghan. She is the worst kind of mean girl because she KNOWs what tactics to employ to incite a reaction.
It’s clear there was a coordinated campaign, involving Clarence House and Kensington Palace, to derail this wedding.
Gahhhhh this is bringing back traumatic memories from my own wedding!! My sister did the exact same thing with her bridesmaid dress/the junior bridesmaid dress for my niece. It caused a huge fight and headache and was the LAST thing I needed at the moment! Ugh, poor Meghan!! Plus, she had to deal with her dad! I also had similar drama with other folks in my family, and I SO feel for her! And then on top of it, she was blamed for making Kate cry?? Meghan deserves all of the awards in the world for what she put up with!!
The more I read about Kate the more I think we can figure her out. – she has no friends and Megan was suppose to be her harry. Her “sure thing”. She was throwing her weight around as the next queen consort and she wanted to be apart of the wedding. Being clingy is her love language. They should’ve just given her a job to do. That’s why I blame William for all of this. He knows how she is. He let’s her look foolish so he can be better. He was suppose to apologize for Kate getting frantic. He should’ve said, she is just nervous and I’m cheating on her, can you ignore her. He let her wear that dress. He let her put Louie in harrys baby clothes. William doesn’t tell her to stop. Maybe he likes the attention?
Kate also has a thing about Harry. I just read an old article about w&k. They mention harry. First off Kate was mad at Chelsy and didn’t go to Harry’s army training graduation. In the past, Chelsy declined a shopping trip with Kate. So Kate held a grudge! How many times has Kate did this with harrys ladies! We now know why Harry talked. He has been dealing with those 2 for 20+ years. He is tired. That same graduation saw William Drink and go to bed before the fireworks show with Harry name. They say it’s because he felt out of place but I think he was insecure.
Meghan was too polite to say, I’m not your bitch, Bitch!
“ They should’ve just given her a job to do.”
…which she would not have done, judging on her past performances. Or screwed it up.
Kate is so f*cking mean. Why was it meghans fault that Charlotte was crying, she didn’t make the dress. Meghan told Kate already the tailor was ready and waiting, but she was purposely dragging her feet to cause as much drama and chaos as possible. Her jealousy is so evident, she couldn’t stop the wedding, so she had to do whatever she could to ruin meghans special time.
That woman has zero compassion for anyone. She is truly awful.
Kate is an absolute witch and this text proves it. KP has massive egg on its face and the BM is trying to wipe it up.
One of the things I do wonder about is how much the unhappiness of her marriage got projected onto her in laws. There’s very obviously some kind of tension in that family to begin with, and having to deal with anything — upset children, family drama, children, etc. — immediately creates push back.
I wonder how Charlotte is going to feel when she’s old enough to realize her mom made her a pawn in some ridiculous scheme to upset her cool Aunt Meghan (whom she only knows from photos)?
Really good point, QuiteContrary. I posted that Kate probably made it worse, a few tears into full on crying by escalating emotions rather than making light of them. All because she wanted to make a pointed remark via her child not upfront herself. Not nice.
Not nice at all.
I guess THIS is how they “do it in Britain.”
(I kid. I lived in London for a little while and worked with the nicest people imaginable, who weren’t passive aggressive little snots whenever they had to deal with something unpleasant. This family is just messed up and big time spoiled.)
How fitting that Weasels is an anagram of Waleses.
I cannot believe that people are still defending this b***h.
Classy ..my assy.
I think what this ‘disagreement’ shows is the FULL EXTENT of Kate’s privilege and a GROSS lack of empathy.
Thanks to the peeps up thread who answered my question about Charlotte’s dress. My guess is that Meghan was likely trying to manage costs by buying the pre-made Givenchy dresses which could then be altered down for each flower girl. Also it makes sense for the dresses to be too big as opposed to too small for alterations. This is actually a common practice in Europe. I remember my SIL guiding me on this point for my wedding. It essentially saves A LOT of money which is welcomed bc (1) by the end of the afternoon the kids will be rolling in the grass and (2) good champagne is a better investment.
Meghan paid for her own wedding dress at an eye-watering cost of £100k+ – a lot of money for anyone – even someone rolling off a very successful cable TV show 100K is a huge chunk of change for (1) a dress you will only wear once (2) understand will then become part of the Royal collection. I am not sure if the custom here is for the Royal Family to recompense Meghan, but you’d think they would given how much money they make from the exhibits etc.
Also I remember at the time Harry thanking CWK for “everything she had done given the constraints they were working to”. I think CWK is an ANGEL and I think Givenchy DEFINATELY took a financial hit on that dress and Meg paid them back later by show-casing other outfits so it was a win win in the end.
I think Kate was unable to empathise with these details as her parents shelled out £250k for her wedding dress. As Kate has never worked a day in her life (just pretend internships) and had since been a working Royal for a decade or so, Kate was unable to compute the financial amongst other pressures Meghan was facing. In fact Meg’s dress is one of the cheapest BRF dresses in recent history – especially when you factor in historical costs and inflation – and even then Meg’s dress is cheaper still – cheaper than Diana, Eugenie ect who spent upwards of £150-200k.
Meg’s reception dress was Stella McCartney and I remember at the time the papers being shocked that you could just buy it for £3k on Net-A-Porter. Meg also paid for her mothers outfits and had TWO suits and a number of dress shirts tailored for her father, one of which were then sold rather bizarrely to this guy at Royal Ascot that year for half what Meghan had originally paid.
So in total with clothes – flights, accommodation etc Meg likely shelled out north of £25k just to look after both her parents. With half that cost going to waste for Bad Dad.
I believe Meghan was making the best of her resources and Kate was just being a spoilt and mean. I’ve also seen this behaviour exhibited by people who were previously abused. They then see it as a rite of passage which they take out on the next new person.
Thank you for this informative post! I agree with you completely re: Kate’s lack of empathy and imagination for what anyone else might be going through.
Does Givenchy actually have premade flower girl dresses for purchase? Did you see the article from Ajay the tailor that came out? Even if that were the case, it seemed like the sizes would have been too large even for ready made sizes and also why would the dresses arrive only four days before the wedding if the plan all along was to buy too big dresses and have them altered from there? It sounds like there was more that went on here, though what happened I’m not sure. Ajay seems to imply that Givenchy royally f’d up and from his description, the dresses were basically re-made by his team.
When Charlotte tried on the dress and cried, did Kate take her to the chat couch to discuss her feelings? Did she invite her wedding planner over to the chat couch to offer her and Charlotte expert advice when the toddler offered a compelling argument for why the dress was too long?
Kate is so f’ing phony.
@Monlette
The “Chat Couch”
Im dying laughing 🤣
But what about the tights???
So, when did tights come into the retelling of the story?
Kate was known, at the start of her buying bespoke, to giving the wrong measurements and then not going to fittings. So I suspect that her giving the wrong information lead to the dress being the wrong size? As for Charlotte crying? Maybe she did? Then I remembered Kate taking that colouring in book away from Charlotte when they were in Germany and Charlotte getting upset, she’d only just been given it but Kate was looking for a photo op wasn’t she? I look twice at a mother who creates a situation which ends with a crying toddler.
As for Kate meddling with the seating plan? She just had to insert herself and make the wedding all about her. She failed to be the saviour of the wedding coming to the rescue with new dresses from Sarah Burton so she had to try something else? Cue that very very very pale yellow outfit? Oh and throw a party for the pageboys? Sounds like Ma Middleton forcing the neighbour into throwing a birthday party for his one year old even though the neighbour didn’t want one. The Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree?
I hope that the press will let up on Harry and Meghan after the interviews are over but, as The Hench said above, I doubt it as they will continue to be furious that Harry and Meghan have not allowed them access into their world. The British tabloid press will continue to hate because that stirs up more emotions and leads to more clicks and more papers sold. They still want to be the Royal experts telling everyone how the royals think. It hits them in THEIR pockets when a royal says “well actually this is what ACTUALLY happened”. A great example is the dresses and Camilla Twominy’s story? She must be kicking the kitchen cupboards at having her lies exposed?
It was harry and Meghan s wedding not kates. She probably thought she knew what was best for harry.
To me it’s a clear case of outright jealousy on KM’s part of Meghan. Outright jealousy.
KM must be a deeply troubled woman. Similar behaviour will have been displayed towards others, not just Meghan, but with the British press muzzled we’re unlikely to hear examples of what others have endured from her.