Omid Scobie still has an “in” with the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, although who knows if he’s actually talking to people in their orbit at this point, or whether he’s just making educated guesses/assumptions. Scobie was interviewed on BBC Radio 4 yesterday, in the middle of Prince Harry’s Spare promotional blitz, and he predicted that, following Harry’s book promotion, they’ll take some time away from the spotlight.
Prince Harry and Meghan will retreat from the Royal Family “soap opera” for the rest of the year after a string of bombshell allegations made in Harry’s book, the author of a biography on the couple has said. Omid Scobie, who co-authored Finding Freedom – a biography about the Sussexes which is understood to have been written with their blessing – said he believes the couple will shift their approach in the months ahead as there “isn’t really much else to say.”
Speaking on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, the journalist, who has been dubbed ‘Meghan’s unofficial spokesperson’ in the past, dismissed the suggestion that the Sussex brand is going to be defined by repeated attacks on the institution. Mr Scobie said he thinks the couple “have to be quite careful right now”, adding there has been a lot of focus on their private life recently and the brand has been “very much about drama” and a “soap opera” that has played out very publicly.
“I think we’re going to see for the rest of this year a couple sort of retreating from a lot of what we’ve seen over the last few months,” he said. “They’ve both shared their sides of the story. Harry… in more ways than we could have ever imagined.
I kind of hoped that 2023 would be the year of Brand Sussex – not so much Harry and Meghan attacking the Windsors, but rather the Sussexes in brand-building mode, doing more humanitarian work, doing more work with Netflix and maybe Meghan writing another children’s book. I’m quite sure they have other projects in the pipeline, but maybe Scobie is saying that those projects have nothing to do with the royal soap opera.
Speaking of – and I do believe this is connected – Harry apparently told Anderson Cooper that “a partial royal role based overseas” is still “on the table.” That’s curious.
In part of the interview that wasn’t broadcast, Prince Harry teld @andersoncooper the offer of a partial royal role based overseas is still on the table for the U.K. monarchy pending ‘frank discussions that don’t leak out.’
— Max Foster (@MaxFosterCNN) January 9, 2023
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I should think they are well out of it. Best for them to just go and build on their new life. They deserve some peace and quiet.
I’m not sure how I would feel if they got back into the monarchy in any way. I think there would be a crack in my support for them. Don’t get me wrong: I will always support and defend Meghan! But for me the absolute enemy is the monarchy in many ways (human rights, democracy, nationalism, economy, law, history, rasicm,…!) and there is only one possibility for soo soo many problems and injustices: abolish the monarchy!!
I agree with this. I would judge Harry if he brought Meghan back into the Firm or further exposed her to them in any way. Also, he should know by now that there’s no saving the RF, at least not as an institution.
And yet, if they had been nice to Meghan, Harry and her would still gladly be part of the institution.
Yes, I’ve thought about that too. But I probably still wouldn’t have been interested in the monarchy and I wouldn’t have found out how bad it actually is, if I hadn’t seen this racism and sexism towards meghan. And it’s not only the people behind trying to destroy meghan but also the whole system. Surely you agree with me about the monarchy?
It seems to me that Harry has a lot further to go on his journey in terms of how he sees his family. I don’t think he’s had enough distance yet to really see how horrible they are. It seems like he knows, but he doesn’t know.
Harry is just being gracious, giving the RF enough rope to hang themselves. They would never return and work for them but they have put the ball in their court offering them a chance to address the “unconscious bias” within the institution and redeem themselves but they are all too arrogant to do the necessary work and they will continue to self destruct. Eyes have been opened, lets see if Brits are willing to keep them open and call out this outdated institution.
I don’t believe anything that comes from Max Foster’s mouth. Why didn’t he link the video of Harry saying that? I google it, and all the headlines that pop up are Prince Harry doesn’t see himself returning to work with the royal family.
Max Foster is the same guy from Cnn UK who lied on National TV and said that members of the royal family have never thrown parties for the Royal reporters or Journalists that he was aware of. Well, Sussex Squad contacted CNN’s headquarters and showed pictures of parties thrown by the Palaces with Journalists and RRs that included him discussing the parties.
He had to take the article down, and CNN deleted that segment from their show. He got caught lying in 4K. and taken off the air for a while. He hated the Sussex squad ever since. They confronted him on Twitter, you’re in America, not the UK. We fact-check. Dan Wooten was pissed and talked about how Cnn was not being fair by not allowing Foster to lie in peace.
@K
I agree that he should just live and enjoy his new life. He did say, ‘I joined her in her life.’
Apparently, that isn’t enough. He also wants the BRF. He misses the family. He wants his father back. He wants his brother back. He wanted to live half in half out. He wants a lot. He is almost 40. When will he learn you can’t always get what you want.
That’s my complain with him.
He wants to talk THANK GOD he is showing the world the true colors of the firm, however he can’t have both.
I hope for him and his family he decides to really move on and build his life, his brand outside the BRF, that’s the healthiest thing he can do.
Salty island doesn’t deserve him and his family.
There’s a credibility issue at stake, here. The Sussexes cannot possibly vent their very legitimate complaints as regard to the British monarchy’s prejudiced treatment of them as a couple and family, then offer to serve them by striving to convince the colored Commonwealth they will be better off WITH King Chuck-Un as a leader. No, thank you. We want consistency. They owe it to us.
Um….sorry, but they “owe us” nothing.
Seriously. What a creepy comment, lol.
Yikes.
Unbelievably offensive comment by @Sugarhere. “Colored” Commonwealth?
They don’t “owe” us anything and the fact people think they owe anyone anything is really strange. As much as Harry has been hurt and blindsided by his family, it’s still his family. He’s probably still in denial that reconciling with the Windsors is off the table. Even if he hadn’t written the book, I doubt they’d be willing to let Harry back into the fold, even as a non working member of the family. He “betrayed” them by leaving the UK and there was never a way to do that behind closed doors since he’s the son of the king. Notice how he’s the one who keeps hoping for reconciliation. Meghan hasn’t said a darn thing because she’s letting him manage his relationships with his family. She probably knows reconciling is off the table but she knows Harry has to come to that conclusion himself.
ALL OF THIS
@AmelieOriginal: “Notice how he’s the one who keeps hoping for reconciliation”: Absolutely. The way he clings to that delusion should be a matter of concern. It takes two parties to reconcile, and so far the other end has shown no interest.
Because this is going nowhere, I’m saying Henry is intelligent and considerate enough not to drag Meghan back into that royal quagmire. He owes it to her first and foremost.
Meghan is also intelligent enough to let her husband figure out his family mess on his own. Harry’s in therapy and he’s processing everything as he goes along. It’s only been 3 years since they left the UK. If we are 10 years down the road and Harry is still hoping for reconciliation and openly talking about it, I might be more concerned.
Who says the work they would involves getting people to worship King Charles? I’m sure they believe there is a LOT of good work they can do In Commonwealth countries in their own unique way. Which usually yields concrete results and gives people more than their mere presence and a photo op.
Commonwealth countries are independent. KCIII is just a symbol.
The governments work together for the benefit of all. There are countries that are not ex-colonies of Britain, that want to become members. Then there’s the Commonwealth Games, their very own ‘Olympics.’ Sounds like a good club, not exciting but good.
This is a REALLY problematic comment. They owe us literally nothing. This sounds like something the Royalists in the UK would say about them.
I’m gently asking you to look at why you think these folks owe you, or anybody, anything.
They owe it to us to pay their taxes and be good citizens. That’s it. They don’t “owe” any of us anything else.
The Sussexes owe it to be consistent to those who have been supporting them around the world. I stand by this.
There’s no type of work they’re planning to do for the monarchy that couldn’t be done in the name of the Archwell foundation alone.
Do they really think W &K will let them outshine them and overshadow them for another round? Harry and Meghan have moved away, now they need to move on. That’s all I have.
You can stand by it. It’s still a completely problematic POV.
👆🏻 So glad our diverging views can be expressed respectfully.
Sugarhere- Nope. You are not owed a thing because you voluntarily support(ed) the Sussexes.
I absolutely agree there’s no need for them to go back. But it’s up to them.
Your attitude is stalker-like. And scary. Please stop acting like you own two people you’ve never met and are due certain behavior from them simply for being a fan. It’s gross.
I think I can understand your thinking. I have to say I would be disappointed too, if the would join the monarchy again. It is their life and they should do what makes them happy, but if they would join them again, they would support them by doing so. Their is no way around it. With their work, their personality and their fame! They would support this monsters, rasists and assholes!
My opinion.
@sugarhee
Well, I’m going to disagree a bit here. Yes, I’m sure Archewell COULD handle any work on their own, but would they be able to do that without The Firm cockblocking their every move in a Commonwealth country?
We are already seeing excepts that Willy is trying to claim Africa as HIS. We know how possessive and petty all of them are. The Sussex’s would have to strike some sort of deal with Charles in order to be left alone to do their work.
They’re not actively planning to do work for the monarchy….
And most importantly, if they were to work for the monarchy again, they wouldn’t be able to achieve as much as they can now! They are not allowed to express themselves politically and are only allowed to do the work that is considered soft and thus does not bring anything/not that mutch.
Being a fan doesn’t mean someone owes you something.
I would be disappointed if they worked for or with the RF again, but that’s not really their business. I’m not their family or friend. I have no personal relationship with them whatsoever. I don’t know if I’m really even a “fan” per se — I don’t like the concept of being a “fan” of a person. It feels mutually objectifying.
@Snuffles: How much trust could the Sussexes put in a deal struck with untrustworthy people? I commend the Duke of Sussex for giving it another try but 🤔☹️, it might prove to be a whopping waste of time, given the negative signals sent from the other end. Additionally, Chuck and Will barely have a say on who the local organizations in the Commonwealth choose to invite.
@Lia: Yes, going back would imply relinquishing freedom of action, thought and communication on behalf of the sacrosanct protocol. Not worth it.
I suppose it depends on the support. If a person donates to Archewell, then they’d expect that donation to be used according to the mission of Archewell. But if the support is being a fan on social media, then “consistency” is all in the mind, because we don’t really know everything about Harry and Meghan.
@C – In my line of thinking, if Meghan and Harry do work that makes Charles and the royal family more palatable on the world stage, AND if the royal family is not simultaneously addressing racism and inequality, would be supporting the monarchy’s status quo. Harry’s comments have all been suggesting that he won’t play ball with his family if they don’t embrace accountability. So in that sense, even Harry and Meghan would think it was hypocritical if they support of the monarchy without seeing any change on the monarchy’s end. It would seem as if all they want is changing how Meghan and their biracial children are accepted and that’s it.
That is nonsense. The Sussexes did not ask for my support l enjoy giving them my support. I also enjoy the support group of sisters and brothers here, we laugh and cry together. We support the Sussexes because we are good and decent and not stupid and deranged and we ask for nothing. Our reward is to see a happy Sussex family and what a wonderful bonus the Netflix series was! Harry’s book is also a bonus and it confirms everything us good and decent Sussex supporters always knew. Vindication of our support. Even if they decide to rejoin as working royals, l will still have their back. We don’t own them.
People need to stop projecting their feelings and wishes on Harry and Meghan.
It’s getting really bizarre from people who call themselves supporters. They owe you nothing, your interaction with them is a closed loop. If you support charities they do or raise money in their name it’s something you choose to do, that you can stop doing at any moment. Thinking you are owed something more for doing altruistic things is very problematic, and the worst part of parasocial relationships. We DONT know them, we don’t provide a shingle over their heads, or bean in their belly. They owe us nothing, just like you don’t owe them your support.
@Dee(2), Anyone is free to give support and retrieve it if they ever feel like it. Nothing is absolute or unconditional, ok.
I simply want to clarify that my position on the matter is final, meaning I am uninterested in your judgment as to how I am to direct my support. He’s free to drag his loved ones back there if he wishes to, just as I am to voice my opinion about it, since a book is out there for people to be able to voice their opinions.
I owe it to myself to only invest time and support as long as I am assured people’s actions match their words. If they don’t, then I’ll redirect my energies to a different cause. Denying me that freedom is “bizarre” and intolerant from your end.
Not only are the children half British they are part of a very historic royal family and an important country. Archie and Lili will undoubtedly be brought up to learn about and experience Britain.
@Sugarhere not really sure where you read, I was denying you anything by saying literally you don’t owe them your support. It seems like you got a bee in your bonnet that so many people pushed back against your idea that your support to strangers is some sort of transaction they have to keep open with you. You have every right to think they are hypocrites, or contradictory, or disappointing or anything else and stop supporting them. My issue is with you seeming to believe they owe you to do what you want because of your support now, in the past, or the future. They don’t.
My comment nor anyone else is denying you the freedom to do anything. And you are free to critique them and we are free to critique your comments as well.
Feel free to critique my actual comments, not your gross misunderstanding or convenient twisting of them.
Over 20 000 complaints flooded the IPSO after Jeremy Clarkson’s hate piece, and there is an entire army of Sussex supporters out there who have been amazing calling out the racism and character bashing endured by Harry and Meghan over the last years. Those anonymous invisible fighters who volunteer for a cause deserve some consideration and consistency from those they generously support. I firmly stand by this belief in reciprocity.
And I respect the fact others don’t find it relevant. Seen from a distance, Prince Henry doesn’t owe Ms Fulani shit. Yet, for some reason, I do believe he owed it to her -as a compassionate human being- to at least not overplay the “we love” Susan Hussey part, especially after the wiman spoiled somebody else’s evening playing ethnic investigator and caused her to close her charity.
The pain of the victim of racism should always take precedence over other considerations: this is not a rule, of course, just my personal opinion. In other words, I think we always owe someone something to some extent, because we are interconnected as humans.
The spotlight, especially where the tabloids are concerned, is trained specifically on the RF. H&M have obligations to their foundation and various contracts to fulfill. I’m sure they will be working on those throughout 2023.
I can see Harry doing some Commonwealth work overseas as long as the gutter UK media is not involved. His love for Africa is well documented and he would be a great asset for Africa. If he feels he needs the monarchy to give him the kind of access he needs, he should do it. Africa should not be denied his presence because of that very much racist family.
Africa is a continent made up of 54 nations – “Africa” does not need a crown prince.
Agreed Cherie. Referring to a massive continent with widely different cultures and different people is always strange to me. The various peoples of that vast continent don’t see themselves as a monolith, but apparently many non-Africans do.
Yes, Harry loves Africa and feels free when here and tries to help. The problem though is that much like the lens through which he views racism and race issues, the lens through which he views Africa is very heavily biased, biased in this case to white savior mode.
Look at the organizations that he works with in Africa, all led by white folk and don’t for one moment imagine that those folk care about African people. It’s all about resources and the vast amounts of money vested in land and nature. He has a long way to go and I do believe he is genuine but his upbringing and world view really do get in the way.
This 100%. While I fully support Harry and truly believe that he is a good and genuine person, he is still a British prince and that part of him is very much apparent. He is actively working on himself and it is a journey, but he has a long way to go.
Harry loves East Africa.
The continent of Africa, divided in what has been called a scramble, rape, and conquest does not need any type of colonizer. What a disgustingly racist thing to say. The African Parks initiative is neo colonialism, a desire to preserve some spaces on the continent as a European playground, while strip mining and exploiting the rest for profit and complete environmental ruin.
White supremacy and capitalism created all the harm on the continent, they have no solutions for the 54 countries presently dealing with their ongoing interference.
What the commonwealth countries need is to be removed from the commonwealth. They don’t need anyone from the British royal family…
We honestly don’t need him or any European Prince or celebrity for that matter, we need good leaders and fairer trade deals with the Western world.
@MaxineBranch — the gutter press will continue to feed off the Sussexes no matter where they choose to work, as we’ve been seeing. That’s their bread and butter, and the BRF will continue to supply them with it. The Commonwealth countries don’t need the Sussexes to do the BRF’s dirty work, and I honestly think Harry and Meghan would bridle at such a role. They will continue doing their good works via their non-profit and keep a polite distance from any work remotely to do with the BRF.
I think Harry has shouted his truth from the rooftops and now he’s free. I don’t know why he still wants any part of having a royal role.
I do think Harry and Meghan need to prove they’re living his best life and back off for awhile. He’s spoken his truth, it’s out there. Enjoy the rest of 2023 with the family and working on various projects. If people ask about the BRF I would just say they’ve moved on and whatever relationships are, it’s private at this point.
I agree with this. The truth is out there. In harry’s book, the Netflix doc, and the oprah interview and various court documents. Now leave it alone. Built further on brand Archewell and I sincerely hope that for their other projects they’ll do as much pr as harry has done for spare
I hope the same. Even entertaining the thought there that there’s any kind of royal role for him doesn’t make much sense to me.
I really like the community and charity projects that they do, so I too would love to see a return to focus on that. I fully get why he needed to do the book and put the truth out there, but I hope after all this they are truly done and move forward. They have so much to offer and so many good ideas, beyond this family drama.
I think this is exactly what they’ve done/are doing. As they themselves have said. All the noise now is just promotion around the book. That’s normal for any author, but in week this will die down and I think their intention is to get on with their work.
I agree, Sue. I think they will shift their focus to promoting Invictus Games in Germany. Unlike the other royals, they don’t have to invent something “substantial” so they can pretend to work.
I think we all figured that the Sussex’s would be moving on with their plans for Archwell, Megs podcast, Invictus (and other military vets work) & Netflix. But this needed to happen. They needed to tell their side of things because let’s face it – that’s what been able to help in their independence. They don’t have taxpayers money to rely on. They barely had when they lived in Britain.
I look forward to more of what they will do in the upcoming year and years to come. Harry needs to let go of that part time work dream. I appreciate he loves his family but they do not care. Move on babe.
Just here to say I absolutely love Meghan’s “Sherlock Holmes” coat in the pics. It’s fabulous!
this one is good but the all white look was my absolute favorite “Holmes” look and I would wear every inch of that outfit.
There is no consistency here. If it suits Harry and Meghans t&c’s, they will go to the coronation
I predict they will attend the coronation too
It’s just an educated guess. They lay low when there is no product to promote. Invictus Games are in September and they will both surface for that. And probably before it, the Invictus Games documentary will air. Maybe with minimal promo.
I should have kept reading, we are all thinking the same thing.
Harry said in an interview he thought of the possibility of working with the commonwealth in the future but I don’t think they’re actively trying to work with the family esp as he’s not even talking to them right now.
I do think they wont talk about the family after this but I feel like they’ll take a few weeks away and then more projects will start to come out. I remember omid saying Harry’s podcast was in the works, we have Invictus film and the Invictus games all ahead.
Now will the BM leave them alone? No they’ll be obsessing everyday about them
Where did he say that? He didn’t say it in the ITV interview or the 60 minutes interview.
It was in one of his articles months ago when he was clarifying that Harry’s book wasn’t canceled in the midst of BM fake outrage.
Oh sorry in regards to the commonwealth comment I think it was on GMA. But let me clarify I believe he said helping in the commonwealth.
There’s so many clips floating around I’m trying to find it.
I didn’t see him say that in the interview with Strahan but I will rewatch it.
I seriously doubt Harry would agree to work *for the royals* in any capacity. He knows that would make him and Meghan vulnerable again and he won’t let that happen. Also, he doesn’t need them to do the service based work he wants to do.
He may want a dad and brother but he’s done with The Firm.
They are done for now. I don’t even believe Meghan will release her own bio for another few years.
You’re probably right, there would be no point, we’ve heard it all.
I would throw wads of money in her direction if she’d write a cookbook/lifestyle book.
I have to say what are The Sussexes hoping to achieve by stating the racist claims that Meghan and her children received but then walk back saying the person who said the racist things in the RF aren’t racist? Same with defending Lady Hussey but zero word of support for the person who endured the racism and vitriol from the British press?
It’s clear Harry wants to still work with the RF in some capacity which is fine (maybe part time?) but expect support to be minimal for that. Royalist will never embrace Harry and many poc who wish to see the monarchy abolished won’t either.
right — Harry is still looking for a half in, half out role — he clearly states it is still on the table for the Monarchy to consider. He has also made it clear he supports the Monarchy as an institution.
He literally said, outright, no, to the idea of ever being a working royal again.
Reconciliation is on the table. Not him working for them. And he knows they won’t reconcile.
Yep. Look I started to get these vibes and it’s really clear, if he can come back, with protection, and no leaking to the press, he will do some work on behalf of the Crown. I think we need to stop thinking that Harry and Meghan were the Rebel Alliance.
I think Charles wants to send Harry to all those ceremonies the Commonwealth nations will have when they dump Charles as head of state. And I guess he’s tired of the blowback when William says racist sh!t about Africans and how many kids they have. So I guess he wants to send Harry instead. If I were Harry I would say thanks but no thanks Pa. I wouldn’t trust Charles because in the end Charles only looks out for himself. Charles has to parrot the Tory party line and they will expect Harry to do the same. Harry would be crucified in the press again and Charles won’t lift a finger to help.
The Royals have a big problem with Africa and the Caribbean. William was jealous that the Queen gave Harry and Meghan the Commonwealth. Katy and Willy then push them out and then go to the Caribbean and mess up. It is even worse for them now. Katy and Willy cannot set foot in the Caribbean or Africa after Netflix and the book. Old Charles will plod over there with or without Camilla and send Anne, Edward and Sophie which will be a complete waste of time, organisation and money because nobody will know that they are there.
I do think they are done with the royal soap opera. I think this is them saying their piece, and then moving on. The opening of Spare explains exactly why Harry wrote it – people don’t understand why he left? Well let him tell you.
But, I don’t think it matters. We’ve seen them go quiet for months at a time. The British tabloid press still can’t keep their names out of their mouths. We might not see H&M publicly again until the coronation (if then) and the British press will still run 100 stories a week about them.
As for being part time royals in some capacity? Ehhhh. I keep coming back to something Peter Hunt said in January 2020 – that things might look very different in April 2021, and that what wasn’t acceptable in 2020 might be possible when you have a 95 year old monarch and what amounts to a regency. And again this was 2020, well before Philip died, etc. It made me think there was discussion of a de facto regency for when the queen turned 95 and it made me think that Charles was not opposed to the part time royal idea.
So, what will end up happening? I guess we’ll find out.
Charles might not be opposed to it, but William 100% is. If he’s so jealous as to see beards and causes as something worth throwing fits over, there’s no way he’s going to agree to Harry doing anything. Everything Harry does is a personal slight against him, in his mind. Charles doesn’t have the back bone and no longer has the money carrot and stick to motivate William. The only thing left is blackmail about Wills dirty secrets, and I don’t think Charles will wage open tabloid war with his heir.
That’s because Charles has a wife more than willing to take on that role for him.
He’s still convinced he can play the white knight for the commonwealth. He still got some deprogramming to do.
I don’t think he’s trying to play white knight. H&Ms projects have actually helped people and let’s be honest their platform can give a lot of people much needed help and attention as we’ve seen over and over. How many business’s have been saved just by Meghan wearing a piece of clothing on a tour. H&M have used their platform in the RF very well which was always the problem.
Now do I think the RF will ever let them back in? Heck no!! If a part of Harry is still hopeful for that I think he’ll get a big slap in the face this year. I think Charles will make big changes pre/post coronation that will probably shut that door completely for Harry.
Charles is very self centred. All he cares about now is his Coronation and he must be livid that Netflix and the book have overshadowed it. If the Sussexes were still working royals there would be more excitement about the event. Charles wants them there and would dump them straight after, Harry knows this and wants something guaranteed from Charles and if Charles says no, he won’t go. I bet negotiations are happening as we speak.
Ridiculous. That’s not even remotely on his radar. They haven’t gone to any commonwealth countries with the exception of hiding out on Vancouver Island for a while, or back to the UK/Scotland for a couple of funerals and Diana’s memorial. Most commonwealth countries are seriously considering cutting ties with the monarchy and the Sussexes are smart enough to stay away from a hot topic like that or to be remotely associated with some “we can save the commonwealth” nonsense.
South Africa is in the Commonwealth.
@Yeahright: 😄 I very like the humor in your comment.
Honestly I hope Meghan is able to find a way to get “Pearl” revived, if not at Netflix then another platform. It sounded like Magic School Bus, but for feminism rather than science. That’s such a great premise for a kids show.
Reading over these comments. A thought occurs to me.
If KC passes before Camilla, what will her situation be?
When KC goes, William is immediately King William.
Would William insist that Camilla be “retired” from public life?
Camilla and Charles do not live together 24/7/365 now, could/would William banish her as the Dowager Queen? Or whatever they call it? I honestly do not think William likes Camilla and once he is King William, with his anger levels….I wonder about it.
The BRF have so flipping many rules, I have a lot of questions.
Chuck was sure to set his consort up with her own home, where she can booze it up after his death. She will happily pickle herself, at Ray Mill.
I hope so too
Family relationships are so tough and complicated when they’re abusive.
Ex.: after my grandpa died, my grandma was treated terribly by my uncle and his wife/daughter. Uncle tried to steal her even went after my mom with a shovel during a lawsuit over the whole issue. Eventually, things calmed down enough to have peace. But uncle’s death led to more anger, rage and lawsuits. Uncle’s daughter pushed grandma in front of uncle’s casket during the viewing…all cause grandma still loved her and wanted to hug her in condolence. There were threats and cops called and it was scary and got even worse when grandma died.
My point? Grandma cried all the time about she loved these family members and was hurt their greed led them to be terrible to her. She had to cut them out but she still loved….and left evil cousin thousands when she died, treating her like the rest of her grandkids. Was this consistent? Nope. But love tangled wirg abuse usually isn’t.
Harry should do whatever helps him sleep at night. So should Meghan. They owe that to themselves.
I agree.
They left an abusive and toxic relationship. They said their piece and did an outstanding job of clarifying wrongs and presenting themselves well. They had to do it and it was the right thing to do. When leaving abusive relationships, one of the best pieces of advice is to go “No Contact.” Just peace out and be done with it all. If I were Harry & Meghan, I’d pay Salt Island no mind ever again. They don’t need the RF. They’ve clearly done an outstanding job of creating a new life for themselves outside the RF. Living well is the best revenge – and they are crushing it!
Scobie is their spokesperson. This seems clear–not negative, not positive, just clearly so.
He’s not their spokesperson. He’s a journalist who just happens to not hate Harry and Meghan like the rest of the royal rota
Yep. He’s the one journalist in England who didn’t hate Meghan on sight, for reasons.
He is totally their spokesperson.
No, he is not.
Whenever I see someone say that Scobie is their spokesperson, I ask myself why that is so important for others to believe? The only answer I have come up with is that people need to believe that everyone believes that H&M are the people that the bm have described. They don’t want anyone saying anything differently because if it’s said often enough they might have to rethink what they’ve been told to believe. That can be scary for some people.
No, Omid is not their spokesperson. If you reread what Scobie says, you will see that he says that he THINKS such and such. He’s giving his opinion. That’s it. There’s nothing anyone can do about the fact that there are independent thinkers in the world and some of them are in the UK.
No he is not. He’s been wrong about multiple things regarding them.
@Lucy: And Rebecca English, Roya Nikkhah and Camilla Tominey are the Cambridges spokespersons
Scobie is not a member of the rota so he can call their press person, ask for a comment and get a response. That is literally not a spokesperson. Calling him that is a troll talking point strait outta the British tabloids. Y’all TROLLz.
Sigh. He’s not. He’s called that because he’s one of the few RR that they respond to.
Someone just said below that Scobie was on a program saying that he wasn’t their friend/spokesman. So you’re getting it from the source and you still don’t believe it?
I don’t think they’re going to go into hibernation – I think (hope) they’ll take a little vacation/respite and then get on with the work they want to do with Archewell. They just don’t announce their projects until they’re ready to come out. I think part of the point of all these interviews is so that Harry can say what he wants and then move on. He’s been holding onto a lot of crap and you can see it’s not weighing him down anymore. He looks lighter.
Yes, they need a vacation.
Well they can’t stay in Montecito right now, so they might as well go somewhere nice.
I’ve been thinking about this and I feel like there’s a certain disconnect between how many supporters first perceived Meghan and Harry’s exit versus what it really was. I think many of us, myself included, took them stepping away to be a condemnation of the entire institution. Which is why a question like “why would they keep their titles if they want nothing to do with the royals?” is valid. But the more Harry says, the more I understand their exit to be about the media and personal hurt within the family, rather than about systemic issues within the BRF. It’s why he’s defended people like Hussey and why they’ve never said a negative word about the Queen. Harry doesn’t want to cut his family off. I get the strong sense that if Charles and Will simply apologized to Harry, he’d reconcile with them.
Which is all fine! I will always admire Harry for uprooting his entire life to protect his wife and children. But I think the reasoning is not exactly everything that we’ve projected onto the situation.
There’s been lots of projection and not much listening to what Harry and Meghan actually say. They’ve been consistent in their messaging but people have filled the vacuum when Harry and Meghan weren’t speaking out loud with their own personal thoughts about the situation.
That’s why people kept getting mad everytime H&M would return for an event.
It’s also difficult because you can’t really separate the firm and the family..which is what H&M are trying to do. They want family more than they want the firm.
But the Charles and William don’t want that and for press and media we can’t separate that either.
It’s also hard when you’re navigating this very publicly because every decision is high stakes. There also leaves no room for mistakes or possibly changing your mind because everyone is watching, judging and criticizing.
Exactly all of this. Very well said. Specifically about the projection and people not listening to what they ave actually said.
Perfectly said. I said something similar in yesterday’s article about the ITV interview. People want them to behave a certain way because of their own personal grievances with the BRF and the Commonwealth and are acting disappointed when they don’t. I do not envy them at all for having to make these choices in such a public sphere with people coming for them from both sides saying how disappointing they are for not living their lives in the way complete strangers believe they should.
I agree. There was other things going on and it sounds like they would have stayed.
@Case : you’ve said it perfectly
I am one of those people who has been projecting. The disappointment I felt after the ITV interview surprised me. I took the last couple of days “off” from excitedly reading every tidbit I could from Spare. I’m coming at this from a new perspective now, still with huge respect for H&M, but without my own projections as a POC on them.
If Meg and Haz continue to speak out or not, I have every confidence that they will make the right decisions for themselves and their family.
I think it would be good if they took some time out of the public eye. With the Netflix specials, the interviews, and the book, they have had a lot of exposure lately. I respect their right to counter all the leaks from the palace, but even I am getting sick of them. And I say this as a huge fan.
So I’m guessing you didn’t buy the book.
What is truth?
I understand how you feel, but I think the tabloids are mostly to blame
@Gem, you know you can ignore all sussexes media if you want. Today is a good day to start. IGNORE ALL PRINCE HARRY AND DUCHESS MEGHAN NEWS!
so many comments wishing they would “disappear” or “stop talking” lately. that’s brit tabloid narrative that they also ran on Diana. yet another parallel.
when the palaces stop briefing against them, they will stop responding. as long as that goes on, they have every right to set the record straight.
So much complaining about the “constant attacks” by H on the RF…..haven’t they endured six years of covert attacks from his family?
I do think it would be in their best interests, now that the other side of this one-sided argument has been exposed, to change focus. IF Charles et al ever make amends privately, we’ll know by H&M returning to the UK for an event.
I almost did a spit take about that part holding open a role for overseas… Meghan and Harry, don’t help KC3 keep the commonwealth! Let all those countries leave!
Finding Freedom was not written with Harry and Meghan’s blessing but with the endorsement of the Palace. They didn’t want anything to do with the book but were coerced by Jason Knauf to provide background information. Omid was on TV today saying he’s not their friend but he been around them for their engagements. The royal soap opera will continue as long as the Palace keeps briefing about Harry and Meghan. It was the Palace’s actions that caused the Oprah interview, the Netflix series and the book to come out. If they had shut up about Meghan and Harry after they left the UK none of these things would have happened. As for any future role for Harry with the royals that’s probably not going to happen, unless he leaves Meghan.
@AmyBee – 💯 It’s the Firm that keeps all of this going. They couldn’t even bury the Queen without taking several swipes at Harry and Meghan, which gave Harry more material for the book. If the Firm would stop all of the bullying, leaking and assaults, then Harry and Meghan would have nothing further to talk about. I get that we have received a lot of information in a short period of time but it’s ridiculous to ask abused people to stop talking when there has been no accountability on the part of their abusers.
Sometimes you need to vomit to feel better…
Word. Fighting the dry heaves just prolongs your misery.
Best thing for them is to move on from all of this and never speak about the RF again!
That is not possible. Harry is British and a royal prince, nothing can change that.
Then he should go home to them and stop talking in circles….today racism, tomorrow it’s unconscious bias bla bla….tiring, pick a struggle
+1
I meant this to PrincessKs comment
Harry did mention a Commonwealth role in his interview with Tom , l got the impression that Harry was open to it but was maybe leaving the decision up to.Charles…..l bet Charles knows that this role would be the perfect fit for the Sussexs esp after de other brothers tour which was a total fail …..image de red head on William ??
Is there anyone who believes that accountability is even a remote possibility for KFC? I just don’t see this at all–I hope for Harry’s sake that sometime in the future that might be possible, but I’ll be surprised if that happens. Accountability is necessary for reconciliation as Harry stated many times.
I think H is being a strategist with this tantalization. Its like he’s saying, hey new-king-charles: everyone knows your reign will only ever be over little england if you do nothing to show you appreciate the C’wealth. Youve seen the disaster tour of Egg-n-Bones. Now everyone knows that only my wife and I could hold the interest of the C’wealth in the monarchy.
IF you and bullyboy admit publicly that you waged a campaign against my wife, AND apologize, we might consider playing a part in your effort to hold the interest of the C’wealth.
He is a strategist. It doesn’t help him to be totally closed door. He said he and Meghan are not goin back full time. Doesn’t mean he wouldn’t be open to helping if he got what he wanted-accountability, etc…
Like he said it’s in their court. Now onus is on them. It won’t happen but now if some truce isnt ever reached whose fault is it.
Harry is a work in progress and has only been away from the abusers for about 3 years and it will obviously take longer for him to distance himself and heal. He has said his piece so now would actually be a good time to place the focus firmly on their work while he continues therapy.
One of the things I’ve always loved about Harry the young man and now Harry the father, husband and adult is he leads with his whole heart. Always. This is going to make it more difficult for him to recognize reconciliation is probably not the best objective or even one that’s achievable. The comment about working with the BRF just doesn’t sound right…the source is questionable and has lied before for one thing…and I don’t see Meghan agreeing to it because of the effect on the children, if for no other reason.
I don’t understand that you believe Harry is away from his abusers. The RF, the tabloid press, all the abusive nasty comments on multiple sites, they all continue to abuse H and M in a daily basis. There is no getting away from the abuse unless and until Charles and William say “stop” which they never will.
I just don’t see how it’s possible to ever “work” for the institution again. Harry had fundamental personality issues with Charles, William, and Camilla. How can he come back when they aren’t going to change their personalities just to bring Harry and Meghan back into the fold. They would rather just cut them off completely.
I feel sorry for Harry but he hasn’t accepted that the one person who loved him unconditionally died in 1997. Even the Queen didn’t love him enough to stop the fallout. His family is Meghan and the kids and Doria.
He’s playing too. Only Charles can authorize articles that talk about reconciliation. He is not naive. But like he told Michael S. I can never be completely out of this. He knows that because he’s a born prince. So this is his shot to tell his truth the other side has had six years. And it doesn’t do well to say all hope is dead or call his family complete racists….even if they are….doesn’t get people to see him and Meg in a different light.
He’s playing too
***Warning male toilet humour incoming***
My brother made this exact observation recently i.e. that H&M had likely felt constipated with all this crap for a long time and had decided to sh!t out all their anger and frustration to feel better so they can move on with their lives.
I tend to agree with him, because keeping quiet is another way abused people are made to suffer.
Harry has held these feelings in for 25+ years and it has caused him great pain.
The RF were not too concerned when they were treating Harry like literal spare parts.
Im still a fan of H&M and the haters blaming him of not holding back against the firm are boring and delusional. He is providing salacious juicy tea, so thankful
Everything Harry and Meghan have done is to establish who they are and to have control over their lives and history. You have to have a solid base before you can move forward and all of this has been to achieve that goal. Smart people.
I’m gobsmacked at all the nastiness and misquotes from the RR and tabloid hacks. Dan Wooton was last heard of calling Harry a drug addict and alleging H raped someone at Eton. But of course said person won’t come forward… it really has made me ill with my blood pressure sky high. I hate liars and bullies and I’ve read ‘Spare’.
Let’s hope they disappear for good!
Escape the drama that they both created!