Portia de Rossi’s 50th birthday was this week, on January 31st. She’s been with Ellen DeGeneres since 2004, and they married in 2008. For her birthday, Portia threw a “surprise vow renewal” – she organized a party at one of the many homes she shares with Ellen, and when Ellen came home, she was greeted by Brandi Carlisle serenading her and the guests. Then Portia stepped out in a wedding gown. Kris Jenner officiated the vow renewal and a videographer was there for the whole thing. There’s a crazy addendum to this story though: the Duke and Duchess of Sussex were there! You can see a blurry Harry and Meghan (not standing together) in the crowd of people watching the vow renewal.
Meghan Markle and Prince Harry had a “wonderful time” attending Ellen DeGeneres and Portia de Rossi’s surprise vow renewal this week, Page Six has exclusively learned.
“They indeed attended and had a wonderful time celebrating Portia’s birthday and the couple’s vow renewal,” an insider told us on Thursday. The source added that they are all “close friends.”
In a video of the event, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex were seen smiling amongst the crowd as they watched Kris Jenner officiate the ceremony between the couple, who have been married for more than 14 years.
Well, Oprah might have snubbed the Sussexes (lol), but at least they still get elite invitations from Ellen and Portia! I’m actually dying a little bit here – to think of Meghan starting to roll with that crowd is a bad-news/good-news situation. The good news is that Ellen is a very powerful person, even though she’s off the air, and she has powerful, elite friends. The bad news is that a lot of her friends suck and I don’t want Meghan to be friendly without those d-ckheads. That being said, I would love to know if Kris Jenner chatted with Harry and Meghan. Come on, you know Kris was all over it. Don’t worry about the Sussexes appearing on The Kardashians though, that show is on Hulu. H&M are strictly Netflix.
I thought I heard a familiar laugh at Portia’s birthday turned vow renewal with Ellen. Great to see Harry and Meghan joining the friends celebrating the couple. 🥂
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do we still like ellen? didn’t she treat her production/show staff horribly during the pandemic and got outted as incredibly mean? weird that harry and meghan are close to her enough to go to her vow renewal but not oprah’s party. i think they were invited to oprah’s party but declined it and made time for ellen’s vow renewal. strange. also the fact that harry’s close to james corden, who…is also an a**hole. lol their white friends suck…
No, can’t imagine anyone liking Ellen
First of all, it wasn’t Oprah’s party, it was a 25th anniversary party for the Anastasia product line. There would be no reason to invite them in the first place.
Also, one has nothing to do with the other. They are completely unrelated.
Thank you Sniffles! I was typing the same thing!
For those of you that weren’t alive when Oprah’s show was on the air, Anastasia is the person Oprah has trusted with her unwanted body hair, for most of my life. I get it, an eyebrow wax is a vulnerable moment, not to mention the other parts we wax, for our partners.
Oprah NEVER had a party,it was Anastasia business anniversary. And who says they are that close with Oprah anyways, they are adults and will go where they please.
If anyone is going to give someone the benefit of the doubt when faced with bullying rumors in the media- I think it’s the sussexes. Also. They aren’t saints. They aren’t perfect. They can tolerate or be fiends with an a hole.
No, we do not like Ellen. She was truly vile to people she had power over.
I’m not sure why people insist on attacking Ellen. As far as I understood it was her management who didn’t treat everyone else bot Ellen herself. I can imagine that concentrating on her show made her unaware of what was going on around her. None of you believes that Meghan was a bully why to be so unkind to Ellen then?
“None of you believes that Meghan was a bully why to be so unkind to Ellen then?”
What an unadulteratedly stooopid commnent.
Thank you Anneli. I agree with your comment. I have a hard time passing judgment on a person based on the actions of others. As far as I’m aware, it wasn’t Ellen herself who was a bully. As you pointed out, Meghan was accused of being a bully and has never had any history of being abusive prior to the media’s attacks on her. I have no reason to believe that Ellen is any different. Bullying is never acceptable any any work place, but I refuse to place all the blame on a boss who might not be aware of the actions of everyone in their workplace, as that is impossible to do.
Years before Kathy Griffin called out Ellen for her “mean streak,” the gossip was strong about Ellen’s tendencies toward unfunny bullying. She also has a well-documented history of acting like a jerk to guests on her show. If she acts like that to famous people when the cameras are rollng publicly, it’s not a stretch to wonder how she might act to someone when the cameras are off and there’s a huge power imbalance. None of those years of consistent accusations and televised episodes apply to Meghan, so no comparison.
@Annelli Ellen has been creditably accused my multiple people on the record about how she treated her own staff of her own show, and Megan has not been creditably accused by anyone of any poor treatment, just a PR spin machine from the tabloids and the palace to distract from their own racism. Hope this helps!!
Hi everyone, when I lived in LA I had a friend who worked at the Ellen show and said she, Ellen, was terrible.
To echo LP, Meghan has not in my opinion been credibly accused. Ellen has very publicly by many people throughout the years.
I don’t think anyone (here on Celebitchy anyway) is making the leap that because Ellen is one way, that Meghan is too. It’s ok to call Ellen out even if M is friends with her.
For I think the 8th/9th/10th/whatever-th time….that was NOT Oprah’s birthday party. It was an anniversary party for Anastasia Beverly Hills and their longtime brand supporters. A cake was brought out for Oprah because it coincided with her birthday. End of. Your concern sounds a bit disingenuous. Harry and Meghan are fully grown and able to curate their own friend group. I don’t think any of us can claim that every single person we have a relationship will qualify for sainthood. 🙄
Oprah’s “party” was not a birthday party for her. It was an anniversary celebration for Anastasia Beverly Hills that just happened to coincide with Oprah’s actual birthday. It was a Hollywood/ business event, not an intimate/personal event.
Ellen seems like an absolutely trash person. They can obviously choose their own friends but yikes. I could not imagine being friendly with someone who treats their colleagues and staff the way Ellen was reported to. Rich people are strange
And Charles the kings wife is buddy buddy with Clarkson who wrote that vile artcle.
I can think of several couples where one partner is great and the other partner is… tolerated socially for the sake of hanging out with the good one.
*snort*
What Rnot said.
Totally agree. I’m a bit disappointed to see them befriend this awful woman.
Hangonamin, it wasn’t Oprah’s party. It was an anniversary party for a makeup brand that fell during the same week as Oprah’s bday.
It wasn’t Oprah’s birthday party. It was an anniversary party for a makeup brand and they brought a cake out for Oprah during the party.
Are you under the impression these are their only friends? Meghan’s friends include Lindsay Roth from university, Abigail Spencer, her niece, etc.
Yeah, they hang out with some people I don’t care for sometimes. But Ellen and Meghan go way back.
Isn’t there an old story about Ellen telling Meghan she had to adopt Bogart, or something like that? Could be wrong, but if so, they’ve known each other for quite a while.
Yep. And they stayed in touch I believe. It was when Meghan was first on Suits.
It was not Oprah’s party, it was a celebration for Anastasia Cosmetics and Oprah was given a birthday cake by Anastasia.
People in business associate with unpalatable people all the time for the sake of networking. Maybe H&M are close to Portia, who is the one who organized the party.
☝🏽This. And their neighbors. It seems like most of the guests were also Montecito neighbors. I don’t see any problem with them attending what was essentially a neighborhood party.
Yeah, I have heard that they are all neighbors and probably get together often. It’s clear they are friends with Ellen and Portia. When Meghan was on the show Ellen made it known that she visits them often.
The party Oprah attended was for Anastasia Beverly hill’s 25 anniversary. Oprah was a guest at the event. Anything coming from Page Six, Us Weekly, and the UK Press, is usually a lie, speculation, or second-hand information.
Ugh , can i just hope that isnt them?
i really wish they had more POC friends but whatever, their lives, but this does seem like a very white crowd. i’m happy to rationalise this by saying that these are the people that Ellen & Portia invited but yeah, im conflicted.
Ellen is still a big NO in my book.
It’s Portia and Ellen’s party, not H&M’s. Why would their (POC) friends be there, if they weren’t already close friends of P&E? Reminder that we do not know who they or their friends are, especially the “regular” folks who would be targets for harassment by the UK press.
@ Dominque: How do you know how many POC friends they have?
sure, but Harry being a mental health advocate and anti bullying given what both he and M suffered at the hands of the BRF , so hanging out with Ellen seems a tad hypocritical, though im sure Ellen has been nothing but kind and welcoming to them. As i said im conflicted, and trying to see the other side here but this is my gut feeling.
Also there are plenty of famous POC who im sure would love to forge friendships with them, i’m sure tyler perry could introduce them.
You hoped that Meghan and Harry would bring their POC friends to someone else’s party, or that Portia and Ellen had more? Also I really don’t like this idea of performative friendship for strangers, which is no matter how we support them and their causes all we are. Meghan and Harry don’t have to hang out with a requisite number of POC people so that people can feel they have checked off some sort of quota. Their work speaks for them, that should be sufficient.
sadly no, but we do see and hear a lot from the white ones?
To be fully frank, who are you to “wish they had more POC friends?” By all accounts they have a fairly multicultural crowd. Tyler Perry is the godfather of their daughter, for God’s sake. ENOUGH of this racial policing of their friendship circle. You have no idea who the heck they are hanging out with in their day-to-day life. Also, you have to realize that we are only going to see/hear about them hanging out with fellow celebrities in the gossip rags. No one gives a crap about Joe and Jane Schmo that Meghan grew up with/went to college with before she became famous.
We don’t actually know Meghan and Harry and to ask them to curate their acquaintances and friends based off of interviews about what they experienced with the Royal Family is a bit much.
And we’ve heard from their POC friends: Tyler Perry who is Lili’s godfather, Serena Williams, Gayle King, Janina Gavankar.
A blurry photo of them at Ellen’s means nothing.
A lot of the support that h&M have received over the years have been from WOC just like me, who see in her struggles the struggles that we face day in and day out.
How could a post on gossip website even begin to police her friendship groups, she does what she wants with her life, and my opinion is my own.
I have to admit the BRF not being racist afterall and we love Hussey comments have me questioning some of my support. I dont know about you, but, even if i do have cherished white friends, as a WOC, most of my friendships are with other WOC and this is something that i see all around me.
H&M have create a global discussion and allegiance from POC worldwide because of racial discussion, so who they are friends with is relevant.
You don’t have to support them or anyone if you don’t want to.
But as my post above states, they’ve had plenty of POC friends and ones who will defend them publicly. And those are just the public voices.
@Dominique Ellen actually stood up for them publicly when they were being trashed. They have received support from her so snubbing her might not be something they are comfortable doing.
What kind of ignorant comment is this? How do you know they don’t have POC as friends? Should Harry and Meghan decline an invite to a party because there wasn’t enough black people there?
@Dominique this is what I meant by performative friendships. You feel because POC supported them (Unasked or required) that they owe something to those people, and that their friendship groups should reflect yours so that you feel comfortable with that support? So, if I as a black woman don’t have majority black women friends that say’s something about me? It’s wild how we can criticize the BM all day long for feeling like they control H&M, and the BRF for trying to do the same, and then flip it and basically do the same you owe me stuff to random strangers because we supported you when they were treated like crap. Wild.
@ Dominique
You are welcome to go! No need to question your support just go and leave Meghan alone cause otherwise you’re setting yourself up for failure. If you’ve listened to Meghans podcast or Netflix or even read her blog you would know Meghan is surrounded by a large diverse group of friends. Just because a few of the most vocal ones are not up to your liking is fine but again her core friends are unlikely to change so just take your support elsewhere.
@Dominique and others,
I appreciate you saying this. And others who have asked “do we like Ellen?” If this were any other royal couple there would be greater willingness to condider the gap between H&M professed values and the company they keep. Not just keep, but are fine being seen keeping.
Ellen has an established reputation for mistreating working people. (Not to mention how often casual racism was central to her humor.) Is that in line with Better Up? (Probably because focusing on worker mental health instead of working conditions is a convenient way to avoid confronting structural problems.)
I mean, come on! Most of us choose to be friends with people who share our values, right? Not that we have to agree on everything, but come on…
It doesn’t mean M&H are “bad” people, but the rich really are different. They do class solidarity better than any other group.
@Dominique/@OnThisDay — The Sussexes won an NAACP award for, among other things, their focus on the Black Lives Matter movement and fighting for racial justice so clearly they have many friends who are POC. Stop being the “friend police”. Furthermore, many of the employees on Ellen’s show have stated that it was producers Kevin Leman, Ed Glavin, and Jonathan Norman who engaged in sexual harassment, racism and misconduct. That it happened on Ellen’s watch is inexcusable but let’s not blame her for everything.
@Jaded
Sorry I wasn’t clear. I was referring specifically to Dominique’s and others’ comments about the politics of their friends and not the race. (But for the record, there are significant critiques that could be offered about them receiving that particular NAACP award, especially in light of H’s recent comments on racism which speaks to the tension between being a monarchist and fighting for true social change on any front.)
I get that Ellen stuck up for her. But the issue is how Ellen treated and/or allowed her employees to be treated, not her guests.
You sound weird. They should only be friends with POC.
Dominique, If I were H&M, the last think I would do is to let the bm know in ANY way who all of my friends are especially if they are POC. Why? Because we know just how vile the bm is and I doubt that H&M would want to wish that on anyone. I feel that they protect the people in their lives.
Until you can see exactly who they allow in their front door and who they are visiting, I find it interesting that you’re creating a negative story out of whole cloth.
Why does Meghan have to meet a POC friends quota? I question the genuine support for her that is coming from those who voice this criticism, especially knowing that some of her friends and supporters have been subjected to unwanted and unwarranted scrutiny in the media and on social media. Meghan’s actions speak for themselves. She has demonstrably championed and lent her support to the concerns of POCs, women and other disadvantaged persons. She has no need to prove her support of POCs and acceptance of her heritage by meeting some arbitrary POC friends quota. And imho, those who genuinely support her won’t ask her to parade her friends to address this ridiculous criticisim or even voice this as a legitimate concern.
@Dominique- I understand what you said about your initial feeling of “ugh” upon finding out that H&M attended this “surprise vow renewal” (I am SO against these but I digress…..) for Ellen & Portia. There has been credible evidence of guests being told “not to look at Ellen, approach Ellen, or speak to Ellen” until they were on camera, and yes many of the staffers complaints were regarding their treatment by management, but the “feel” of a workplace always begins at the top. If Ellen was totally unaware of the deplorable way her managers were treating her staff, then that is only slightly better than approving of it. And I understand how, given H&Ms bullying by the royal family and their staff, I’d be lying if I said I didn’t feel weird, seeing H&M at Ellen’s party.
Now, ALL THAT being said, Dominique, I think the best remedy for our feelings of “ugh”, is to remember that H&M have NEVER before given the impression of talking the talk but not walking the walk. I think they have proven to be genuine in their causes, and I think that they deserve for you and I to give them the benefit of the doubt here. After all, we don’t know what conversations have been had, for all we know H&M addressed the on set bullying claims to Ellen. We just don’t know. And even if they did NONE of that, can you truly say that you don’t have a single problematic friend?maybe one you’ve known for years? I know that I do…..
🙄 Stop spreading disinformation, it’s already been well established that was NOT Oprah’s party.
@hangonamin: Are you now finding out that Harry and Meghan are friends with Ellen and Portia? They have been for years. Ellen and Portia visited them when they were still in the UK.
ok guys, i get it. i made a mistake. it wasn’t oprah’s party and had nothing to do with whether they got invited or not. i’ll retract that. yikes. haven’t had my coffee yet and people are already getting nasty online.
yes they can go be friends with whoever. they are totally adults. but i’m sorry this is a gossip website? with multiple articles written about the type of friends they keep (kept) being a**holes or mean or doing something shady…looking back now multiple articles where ellen is touted as being mean, horrible to production staff, creating a toxic environment? and james being a total diva over nothing. i think harry and meghan have most social circles open to them in the US and it’s interesting to see who they let into their friend circle.
Stop reading and believing the tabloids when it comes to Harry and Meghan.
@ Amy Bee thanks but i don’t read tabloids. i skimmed some headlines from this website’s post yesterday and got it wrong. thank you for your concern tho.
Well, when you come in hot with what smells a lot like concern trolling, you’ll be corrected. Happy Friday.
But tabloid quoting is so fun – truth is subjective – bash Meghan is a sport
@hangonamin: This website didn’t say that Harry and Meghan was snubbed by Oprah.
@ swirlmamad thanks, happy friday to you too. im sorry you read my comment as concern trolling. i was genuinely surprised they are still so close with ellen that they were invited by portia to their vow renewal, and wondering if i missed something where we like ellen again? and if oprah had a party, they would have been invited. otherwise, i still think some of their friends suck and they can do better BUT they can do them.
What does us liking/disliking Ellen have to do with what invitations Harry and Meghan get?
@swirlmamad i think you are not gonna be happy with whatever i say. i skimmed a headline and part of a story incorrectly and that’s my bad. harry and meghan are adults and they can friend whoever they want. i’m not saying they should or should not be friends with certain people. this is a gossip website and i’m gonna gossip…so i still think some of their friends suck.
omg, y’all need to CHILL out. Let people like @hangonamin speculate, and sure maybe they made a mistake, but it was an innocent mistake, and they’ve apologized. Why all the fire??? This is a gossip site. We get to share our opinions (positive, negative, ambivalent) about the celebrities kaiser posts about; that includes H&M. This is supposed to be FUN escapism, not a dang firing squad!
TGIF
LOL. this was a lot so early in the morning. yes agreed. it’s also the same couple of posters that just go ham. guys we can all be friends and disagree.
She was/is also terrible to people who work at stores/restaurants she frequents……even pulling one around by their shirt collar and calling them like they were a dog (not to mention MANY other terrible interactions with her) …source: the person it happened to.
Also – they are friends with people who treat their employees terribly (unpaid overtime, false accusations, forcing people to be 1099 employees even though that designator did not fit the situation).
They also have a lot of great friends and they themselves treat their staff well. What’s your point?
My post is regarding how Ellen treats people in the service industry. Not H&M (H is lovey by the way as a friend in CA Natl Guard met him and Newsom while deployed to Montecito a few weeks ago and said they were both very cool and very nice.)
I was going off of your last sentence – “They are friends with people who treat their employees terribly”. Were you actually referring to Ellen and Portia?
@C i’m pretty sure she was talking about Ellen and Portia…before you go off on Phyllis.
Thank you, Friends&Family, that, of course, would be the reason I asked Phyllis to clarify.
Corden & his wife were at H&M’s wedding.
Their white relatives suck, too, so it tracks.
“That being said, I would love to know if Kris Jenner chatted with Harry and Meghan. Come on, you know Kris was all over it. ”
Oh, you KNOW Kris Jenner was all over that shit trying to make a connection!!! I’m 100% certain they’ve been trying to secure a connection with them the moment the landed in California.
Not that want it, but I wouldn’t count Kris Jenner out. While there is no way in hell that Meghan or Harry would associate themselves with anything Kardashian related, they might accept some Kardashian support on one of their projects.
On another note, Harry must have been geeking out to be around Monica and Rachel! 😜
Kris Jenner is officiating at weddings/vow renewals now? Who knew? Obviously, not me.
Mark my words, this will trigger the British media: we told you they’re just like the Kardashians!
The BM can say what they want about the Kardashians, but they hustle for their money and are not ashamed of it.
At this point do you think Meghan and Harry cares what the BM vomits.
No, I don’t think they care and neither do I. Just making an observation.
I think that her “church” is tax exempt, too. Barf.🤮
Omg, I thought the same thing. Today they mingle with Kris Jenner and then it’s downhill from that. Please H&M, not to be elitist, but please be choosy! I’m sure Kim K has her sights on M!
I truly wouldn’t worry about that, they had no control over the guest list. It was not a party/event at their home or that they were hosting. I’m just glad see that are doing well, fitting in and have a social life that no one truly knows anything about. If it wasn’t for a quick panoramic view of the guests we never would have known they attended. That is the goal.
For the love of…they attend one celebrity wedding vow renewal and suddenly they’re on the path to hell because Kris Jenner is officiating?? SMH…
Lmfao!
Let’s just say, they’re hanging with a pretty distasteful crowd. I might reevaluate my choice in friends if some of my new besties are using that crazy harpie as an officiant? Have you ever seen their show?!?!
Besties? I think their besties are other people.
It’s a friggin wedding vow renewal that they were invited to! If you attend a friend’s wedding, does that mean that you’re best friends with every other guest in attendance, or even know who most of them are? Should they have boycotted their friends’ wedding because Kris Jenner was there? Should they make their friends provide them with a guest list any time they are invited to anything, to make sure they’re never around anyone that strangers on the Internet don’t approve of?
What is it about H&M that make sooooo many people feel like they are entitled to micromanage everything they do in their private lives? I’ve been following celebrity gossip for most of my life, and I don’t think that I’ve ever seen anything quite like this
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Compared to the royal family, I would imagine everyday d-ckheads would be a refreshing change.
While there are a lot of terrible things about the Kardashians, I will give them one thing, they stick together as a family unit and have each others backs. How sincere that is I have no idea, but they have developed a Kardashian FAMILY brand and are smart enough not to blatantly leak and backstab each other.
And, even though they did have a family advantage in gaining deals and wealth, they do actually work for it.
The Kardashians treat each other like absolute shit. It’s a rat race between each other for power, money and relevancy. Few things come from the heart for them, and powerful friends is not one of them. H & M would give them a “legitimacy” and a seat at many tables they’ve only looked from afar for years. I bet Meghan’s interview with Paris Hilton’s was a woulda, coulda, shoulda for the K’s.
I think Kim has already been working on that seat. She has been to the White House for an event with Trump and one with Obama.
LOL, the Kardashians are doing darn well, they don’t need help from the Sussexes.
This is the US, money is King.
Paris and Kim used to be friends (before Kim got famous). they don’t seem to be friends any more. pretty sure that ship has sailed.
@Eurydice: And those aristos.
This was not a gathering of Hollywood’s finest but it is still a step up from the royals. And no paps.
Again…Meghan….follow Beyoncé’s lead. NO play dates with the Kardashians.
Beyoncé literally just invited a Kardashian to her Dubai concert. That’s train has already left..
Yes, follow Beyoncé’s lead:
https://www.bet.com/article/jeswyn/beyonce-sends-kim-k-an-ivy-park-box-and-kim-is-excited
Maybe no playdates but still keeps a connection 😂
Surprise ‘vow renewal’ is that a thing? My mind at suprise weddings etc is well what if the other person doesn’t want that!?
I’m going to guess that after 14 years of marriage you have a pretty good temp gauge on what your partner would be into.
Please let this be the start of a trend of Bigfoot style blurry photos of H&M 🤣
Or people who blurrily resemble them because….
Portia looks amazing! Ellen looks shocked and rather awkward (and is certainly underdressed in her khakis and sneakers). and I love this for her because she’s always pranking people!
I will say, tho, that if you’re planning a surprise party that people will be dressing up for, the nice thing to do is plan a ruse that the surprisee will dress up for too. don’t get me rolling up in my work clothes or yoga pants!
well played, Portia.
That’s why it was called a surprise wedding renewal. If Ellen was dressed to the nines, she would’ve been aware of it.
Notice the people in the pictures are not dressed up also.
you make up a decoy event with a similar dress code. Ellen is usually very dapper. but like I said I love that she was on the spot, since she usually runs the show… and she’s always pulling crap on other people.
I mean…congratulations on attending a party? Like, wtf are people reporting on this? Is it to detract from Shaping Us, because…whew! Slow news week!
What a beautiful ceremony, I teared up! Portia and Ellen seem to really, really love and have great devotion for each other. Love still exists!
Gross. Ellen is awful.
She isn’t a nice person at all. Her father & step-mother were close neighbors of my mother’s in La Jolla for several years, until he died. Ellen completely ignored them, not a loving daughter.
Seems more like these people are all neighbors and have similar amounts of press intrusion into their lives so can relate and are likely to show up if each other are having parties. Didn’t Meghan say they hung out on Halloween too? I have dropped by more 4th of July and Halloween parties than I can count as an adult because I want to be a good neighbor and have people watch out for me and my home. This all sounds very normal, but of course because of the BM narratives it has to be a “thing”.
I havent liked Ellen for years before it was popular. Two of my favorites in Michelle Obama and Meghan Markle really seem to get a long with her. Whatever…I still don’t like her and probably never will. It is lovely to spend time with friends and support them. Hopefully the couple have many more years of happiness and that Ellen learns from those who spoke out against her and takes it to heart and changes. I DO believe that some behavior can change.
Ellen visited the Sussexes at Frogmore when Archie was a new born and said he had red hair.
Okay…
Yeah, I never got the Ellen hype. I always thought her snakiness had a mean undercurrent, and outside of Finding Nemo, I never found her all that funny. And with the revelations of how her staff was treated….yeah, this is disappointing.
But one thing that struck me is this: the Ellen that Meghan knows is very different than the Ellen that other people know. I doubt she treats the people she’s ‘friends’ with (or networks with) like she does her underlings. On top of that, Meghan knows what it’s like to have a false narrative in the press define public perception of you. I’m not saying that the depictions of Ellen in the press are lies. Far from it. But I think as far as Meghan (and Harry) are concerned, Ellen has always been nice to them, and given their feelings toward the press, it’s probably easy for them to think “those things were exaggerated.”
@Tiger Queen. Exactly, I’m sure as far as H&M are concerned, Ellen has always been nice to them. I have worked with a few celebrities before and for some of them, it is uncanny how they can treat “staff” so very poorly, and then the very next second where someone that matters to them is around completely change their personality in a split second and act like a perfectly pleasant and kind individual to them. I guess it shouldn’t really be a surprise, they are actors after all. I suspect many actors have a mix of personality disorders and a higher amount of narcissism in general than the general public given their career. I think in general you can tell a heck of a lot more about a person based on the way they treat their staff and unimportant people than by how they treat their celebrity friends or people they perceive as someone they should impress.
whilst i adore MO, her “friendship” with Georges W Bush with the whole sharing of sweets at National events is what i deplore the most.
That guy is a war criminal and MO is too intelligent not to see that these little moments were helping to rehabilitate his image.
Michelle Obama, a member of a small exclusive club and the only Black member. That Michelle Obama.
Some of y’all are getting way too comfortable and need to fix your slip.
MO is also intelligent enough to know that snubbing other presidents isn’t a good look.
seriously? there is a wide berth between snubbing other presidents and participating in image rehab of a war monger
Stan culture is wild. it should be possible to admire someone for their considerable accomplishments and still hold them accountable where they could have done better
@Dominique — In no way did MO *participate* in rehabbing George Bush’s image. She’s a former president’s wife. She knows the ropes. Being polite and friendly with someone is not toadying up to or agreeing with their politics, it’s called being professional. If you think she should express some obvious Kate Middleton-level aggression at him, you’re not following MO’s wise words “When they go low you go high”.
My favorite parties are when I don’t have to travel far.
😂Meant this in response to dee(2)
They aren’t strictly Netflix. And thank goodness for that. TMYCS was on Apple+. Once the new password rules at Netflix go into effect they are never going to reach the audience that the docuseries did again. They need to rush through whatever projects they have under contract over there so they can move to another platform.
Haha, I love the stealth videos of H&M. You know this is going to drive the RRs NUTS – they had all those stories this week about H&M being rejected by Hollywood and here they are.
I don’t like Ellen based on everything we’ve heard about her treatment of staff, and I agree with what many others have said that just bc she’s nice to Harry and Meghan and other famous people it doesn’t negate how she treats her staff, which is the real indicator IMO of how someone is as a person.
That said, I do appreciate her for speaking out in defense of Harry and Meghan in the summer of 2019, when the royal family was silent and was in fact actively encouraging the press abuse of them. Ellen and Elton John spoke out against the press coverage of their private jet usage etc, William set up the FlyBe stunt.
You know who I really want to see the Sussexes befriend? Angelina Jolie. Can you imagine!? On paper I feel like they have so much in common.
But ughhhh Ellen & Co.
Yaaaaaaaassssss!! Universe make it happen!
Oprah, Tyler Perry, and James Corden, but not Ellen, was acknowledged in Harry’s book. There are many different levels of friendship.
Common sense prevails.. lol
Considering the British media were harping on Harry and Meghan being shunned by holiday I’m glad there’s very clear evidence that’s a lie. I know they like to make up stories but for their readers it’s better to see evidence to the contrary.
Just like they claimed with Tyler perry anda few days later he ended up in their Netflix doc.
I missed the James Corden nod somehow! Yuck 🤣
I think James Corden went to his wedding. (either his or William’s, maybe both.) And I can’t remember if it was James corden or James Blunt whose wife is an old school aristocrat.
I think though as someone from the UK living in LA, and having familiarity with the UK tabloid press, Corden was probably in a position to offer sympathy and support to Harry that maybe others couldn’t, just bc they didnt quite “get it.”
But he’s supposedly one of the bigger aholes in LA, right?
Corden did attend their wedding.
Yes, this, @Tamsin. As @polo noted, finally common sense prevails.
I couldn’t befriend a racist or a war criminal, but one of my friends was rude to a waitress when we were out to dinner and we called her on it (and tipped the waitress a lot, and pointedly, so our friend got the message). She’s gotten much better. Maybe Ellen has, too.
Portia seems nice, though. (Feel free to disabuse me of the notion.)
There will probably be loud fauxrage over them hanging with someone problematic. That is an area where people get a bit ridiculous- wanting to cancel by association. Cults are not something to emulate, and not every problematic person needs to be shunned like a nazi, predator, or wife beater.
But that’s the things..they already tried that last time when she went on Ellen.
Royal reporters literally mine fan pages and hater pages looking for articles to create…no one seems to be making a big deal of this except posters on here.
but it’s literally a bday/vow renewal. There’s no drama there.
And it would seem hypocritical to not call out everyone from the Obama’s to Jennifer Anniston who was just at Harry Styles concert with Ellen.
People only seem to have a problem with H&M attending their neighbors bday party.
Eh, maybe they’re friendLY with Ellen, not necessarily friends. Don’t we all have people in our life like that? Like, you don’t want to spend too much time around them, but you can show up for an occasional birthday party or wedding. Also, I can’t get too worked up even if Harry and Meghan did happen to talk to Kris Jenner, or any other celebrity. I’d honestly be much more disappointed if H&M were rude or dismissive towards someone who might be considered a lower-caliber celeb.
Mirabeau you are so right, we all at times as politeness attend parties where there’s some people who are CLOSE friends and others that we know, but it seems some want to use this as a stick to beat Harry and Megan with. Well shame on them
Exactly this. Also, maybe it’s not too much of a stretch H&M’s kindness and good-hearted nature can rub off on and inspire someone else who isn’t necessarily known as such.
Honestly, no. My close friends don’t hang out with shitty people and I’m at an age where I “lost” contact with those I simply don’t like. But I think when you run in certain celebrity/rich people circles, the percentage of snobby assh*les is just higher and it’s harder to avoid them.
Yep. People are making all sorts of weird assumptions from two blurry photos.
So much for Harry and Meghan being snubbed by Hollywood. Apparently Courtney Cox was there too. I want to know if she and Harry talked about his book. That whole story about Harry being at her house and eating magic mushrooms was the funniest part of the book.
I spotted Julia Louis Dreyfus and her husband Brad Hall there. H n M run a foundation that needs financial backing. They’re going to rub elbows with rich people. They have to network.
Isn’t one of properties in Monticeto? If they are neighbors, I can see them speaking and getting to know each other.
And also, Ellen has never been a douche to anyone in her tax bracket. There are always 2 faces.
The fact the for her 50th birthday, Portia felt the need to make it about Ellen – I don’t think this is as happy a couple as they’d like people to believe. I could be very wrong about them but I don’t think someone who is awful to their employees comes home to suddenly not be awful to their spouse.
@Twin Falls Agreed 💯💯💯
Please don’t conflate a kind gesture to your spouse with problems on the marital front. Portia has done this before — for Ellen’s 60th birthday she gifted her with the Ellen DeGeneres Campus of the Dian Fossey Gorilla Fund. Ellen is a major animal-rights activist and was even named “woman of the year’ by P.E.T.A. in 2009. I doubt very much that Ellen comes home from work and mistreats her wife no matter what went on during her show.
You’d have no more idea than I do how Ellen treats Portia at home but we both know she’s a confirmed asshole to her employees so I don’t really have to start from a position of thinking the best of her.
And what does Portia’s gift to Ellen on Ellen’s birthday have to do with Portia also gifting Ellen on Portia’s big day? Oh that’s right both things are all about Ellen.
@Twin Falls — I don’t think the best of her, but Portia’s gift to Ellen shows her love for her spouse, and on Ellen’s birthday the vow renewal shows once again her love for her spouse. Why is that bad? I too think Ellen has been problematic and allowed toxic behaviour on her show to go unabated for too long. She’s paid the price. If Portia wasn’t happy she would have tapped out a long time ago.
I think we all know by now that getting up and leaving a bad relationship with an unbalanced power dynamic isn’t easy nor follows any certain timeline.
It was Portia’s 50th birthday and for her birthday she chose to make it also about and for Ellen. It struck me as odd but as I said I could be totally wrong.
Are people really out here now trying to dictate who Harry and Meghan hang out with? In their own neighborhood? Didn’t Michelle Obama just invite/hang out with Ellen for her book tour? Complete silence then just like when she was on Ellen’s show not long after Meghan.. what about Oprah whose also friends with her…
Like people go outside and touch some grass and stop trying to control Meghan and Harry. My God..
Exactly. People seem to forget these things. Michelle Obama goes out her way to praise the royal family even after the Oprah interview.
Thank you!
This is what irritates me about a bunch of posters in this thread as well as all the recent threads about Ellen/Meghan. Why is Meghan constantly held to a different, and impossible to uphold standard? No one is screaming for Michelle Obama’s head whenever she associates publicly with Ellen — exactly right and I cosign this completely.
Honestly it’s crazy! People (even fans) seem to expect a level of perfection from Meghan in every area of her life that is just not attainable while everyone else is given so much grace.
And when she doesn’t meet their acceptable standards then they can justify not liking her.
Like leave her alone..she’s not asking you to be a fan or a hater. This woman’s just trying to live her life the best way she knows after it being turned completely upside down.
They are seen outside for barely a second and it’s already turned into a f**king debate.
We know why – same set of new posters trying to come in ea time to convince us and themselves that Meghan is truly the devil. Racism is wild
Yes. And if people only associate with the perfect, they will be left with nobody. How can someone learn to do better without associates who will show them a better way? It would probably be harder for H&M to snub Ellen since she is one of the people who has defended them.
Look, I don’t care who they are friends with, but let’s not pretend on this site people didn’t criticize Michelle Obama for being friends with Ellen and daring to say anything about Meghan and Harry not reconciling with his family.
She did get slack for her comments post Oprah but nothing that I’ve seen since then even the times she’s hang out with Ellen.
But to be fair she’s doesn’t get posted on here as much as Meghan does.
@KP
The purpose of the britshidtrags and their cohorts in palaces is to paint a picture for the idiots who swallow their bile, that H&M are friendless and suffering in America. LMFAO
IKR…the trolls are trying their damndest to infiltrate this site and spread ridiculous sh*t about the Sussexes. They’re as bad as the British gutter tabloids.
LMAO at an “insider” sharing “exclusives” of an event Ellen posted a video of to her very public YouTube and twitter pages. What a joke.
Yeah, that’s made up.
I’m going to shrug at this cause “rich people gonna rich people”. Also, I’ve worked with a few people who are absolutely lovely to socialize with but they are demons from the bowels of hell when it comes to work. So there’s that.
I see that people have no problem with Harry repeating over and over again about his desire to reconcile with racists Windsor, but now people are mad because the Sussexes are friends with Ellen? At least Ellen did not assault Harry, unlike his brother.
Nah. I said here repeatedly I had issues with him being cool with his racist family members and him and Meghan doing that whole, hey the baby skin question wasn’t racist.
@chillin just to clarify Meghan hasn’t said anything… I know you know that but others might not.
Bleh. Ellen. James Corden.
H+M have some crappy friends.
They have a lot of good ones too. Kind of like how everyone’s life is.
Yep.
That’s what I was thinking as I’ve read through these comments. My friends aren’t all saints, nor am I. Policing a celebrity’s friend group is just weird.
Word.
Ohmyword- that *you* know of.
You just know some of the Kardashians have been gagging to be in the Sussexes circle. MEGHAN DO NOT ACCEPT PLAYDATES WITH THESE PEOPLE follow Beyoncé’s lead on those people.
Yeah. I am laughing cause Kris Jenner would love to hang out with them.
harry and Meghan white friends suck from James Corden to Ellen i hope they don’t become besties with the kardashian’s. You know Kim’s gonna name drop that she knows Diana’s son on the Hulu show,
This is getting ridiculous. James Corden and Ellen aren’t their only 2 white friends.
Stop with the fake concern trolling.
This policing and micromanagement of the Sussexes’ friends is off the wall now.
it’s madness. it’s like they are puppets and folks have a sense of entitlement and want to control their movements. this isn’t The Truman Show.
Eh. Everyone has terrible friends. I wouldn’t hang out with Ellen, but people seem to like her (celebrities). James Corden would make me want to fight him, but apparently celebs once again like him and stick up for him.
“James Corden would make me want to fight him” 😂
(Also, same)
I’m not going to be like the tabloids and trash anyone for it looks like Ellen knows she’s a shit because Portia has to save her every day. H and M being there, to me, simply illustrates their large embrace.
Thank you for saying that. None of us are perfect and so none of our friends are perfect. I believe that whatever wrongs might do don’t necessarily define who they are as a whole and it doesn’t prevent them from learning and becoming better people. I would think that Harry and Meghan don’t choose friends expecting perfection, because none of us are, but they know them better than any of us or based on what the media has said. They have experienced the attacks of lies and misinformation and know that whoever they choose to associate with meets a certain standard that they value. We don’t know the truth of who these people are or if they have grown to be better people than they once were, but Harry and Meghan would.
Yeah, we’re kinda self-deprecating in my house, but not in a miserable, loathsome to be around way lol. Absolutely everything you said. Mistakes have to be made to make the road to perfection more accessible. We’ll never reach our destination, but every failure is closer and closer. Nobody will get back on the horse if we kill all the horses.
It could be just what she has on, but Meghan is giving off pregnant vibes to me. I could be completely off, but……..
Me too…
I had the same thought. She seemed unnecessarily covered up. But who knows! 🤷🏽♀️
She seems about as covered up as all the other women around her though.
@Heather. I thought the same but didn’t want to say it. I don’t want people accusing me of policing another woman’s womb. If she is I’m happy for them. As a fellow only child, I have 3 children and would have had more if it was financially feasible. Also a third child removes the heir and spare dynamic.
They said they only want two children (I’m sure Harry had a vasectomy after Lili was born). They also won’t raise their children as the heir and spare.
We don’t know Harry well enough to speculate about what he may have done to his reproductive organs. Off limits.
Interesting if this is the case! (My vision is so bad I can barely make out which one is Meghan) But I’m pretty sure she and Harry have both said that 2 kids is their limit.
@JULIA K — But Harry talked a lot about his “todger” in his book.
I know Harry and Meghan said two kids max but maybe god has other plans.
@madonna, Harry used the word Todger to describe his penis. This is not the part of the anatomy involved in a vasectomy. The vas deferens gets snipped and that involves the scrotum ( balls). TMI.
Everybody’s got great eyes, I couldn’t tell that was Meghan from that fuzzy photo
I am happy to see Harry and Meghan enjoying their lives. They should go where they are wanted and cherish and treated with humanity and respect and not where they are abused racially , mentally and physically.
This. Well said.
I said this in a previous post but I’ll say it here again.
There are so many royalists in Hollywood when you really step back and think about it. Yes I know it’s a massive industry but in circles of “elite” actors/producers who always win awards there’s a lot of British citizens.
That’s why I don’t care who Harry and Meghan hang out with because they will need all the friends/connections they can get considering their enemies..
There’s so many people with ties to the establishment *ehem vanity fair & daily beast* who are out to see them fail that it’s great they have the Ellen’s, Oprah’s, Tyler Perry’s, Elton Johns and their close friends supporting them in the industry.
I also can’t imagine the relief to be surrounded by people who actually support you and are not trying to stab you in the back constantly.
From what we’ve seen their friends in Montecito have done a great job of protecting them and giving them safe space to heal and transition from working royals.
Their enemies are not in Hollywood. And not as many as people pretend.
Heather, for the past few weeks l have thought that too, just a feeling!
So does anyone else think the comments sections around here on Meghan and Harry articles are starting to be infiltrated by anti-Sussex trolls who are using bastardized versions of anti-racist talking points to stoke hate against the two? Or am I just fully paranoid now? This is one of the few sites that’s staunchly supportive of them and all the gripes against them seem to be tailored to our collective moral compasses.
Nah, you’re not the only one. It’s pretty obvious honestly, lol. We all had honest good faith conversations about Harry’s problematic words about unconscious bias, which was great. And on the opposite side of that you can tell the trolls by the fact they didn’t engage in those kinds of conversations, but are saying things like “wow, I really expected better from them in their friend group” or some such nonsense.
Yup. It’s clear as day.
I agree with you guys it’s clearly that are trolls on here you just here to Stirred up nonsensically drama . It’s only on articles where they think they can get away with it Now it’s ok to police Meghan and Harry friendships and questions if they have any people of color then lambasted them for not having people of color as friends even though we don’t know all of the friendships circle . But people just want to find anything to criticize Meghan with she not black enough she doesn’t have any black friends even though that false .
Oh yeah, there are def some commenters that only appear for specific articles, the ones where they think they can get away with it. You rarely hear from them as much on other Harry and Meghan articles. Luckily, there’s a core group of people here that usually spot it right away. Sometimes I call it out, sometimes just label troll, or like today, I am just not even in the mood to engage. They’ll go away and then be back again when they catch a space to stoke hate. Love how you clocked in on how the gripes are tailored towards our collective morals @looseseal.
I thought I was going crazy.
Does any other celeb get scrutinized like this? I can’t think of any. Every aspect of her life torn apart..and it’s never enough whatever she says or does. I don’t get it.
And it’s always the most random and trivial threads like being a hugger or sharing lip gloss where the craziness comes.
see i don’t agree at all. i feel like for the most part the commenters here are still pretty respectful of H&M. but there are just different points of views on things. e.g. eugenie’s wedding and pregnancy announcement, harry’s comments about racism, and posts about reconciliation. no one is outright spewing hate. if anything, i will say this website is very protective of H&M and usually unwilling to listen to any criticisms of them whether serious of lighthearted. like for example, we can support harry and meghan and say yikes ellen really? it’s like if you support a friend but you don’t like their friend…just means you don’t like them and you’re allowed to say that.
Applause!
I’m not talking about the Ellen-related comments. I’m talking about the ones who are like “OMG why don’t they have POC friends?” when they clearly have a diverse friends group – racially, culturally, and socioeconomically. Maybe Ellen and Portia don’t. It’s their party. It just reeks of people trying to stir up “woke lefties” into an anti-Sussex frenzy.
What you said. I got jumped on for daring to say that I am not a hugger so meeting Meghan for the first time and her going for a hug would cause me to move back.
You’re totally right. These new accounts pop up with brief, repetitive disses and add nothing to the conversation. It’s always something really trivial and nitpicky. And they claim to be surprised and disappointed. Whatever. We see it.
They randomly pop up and are using this platform to quietly plant subtle ideas and question minor things to raise doubt. The Eugenie wedding thread was when I first noticed it and I wish the Admins would cancel these trolls.
Regarding Harry and Meghan’s relationship with Ellen and Portia. I’m neutral about the whole thing. When Meghan met Harry, she made it clear she didn’t base her opinion on what the tabloids said. She checked his Instagram, spent time with him and formed her opinion that way. She knows as well as anyone, how much a media persona (curated or foisted upon by others) can be misleading and missing big parts of the full picture.
So, I have no doubt in their interactions with Ellen, she’s been nothing but lovely and supportive of them. And them being new on the scene, they need allies, and I’m sure Ellen is a great one to have.
If Harry and Meghan only hang out with people in the industry that are pure as the driven snow, or meet our personal standards, they would have ZERO industry friends. And the NEED industry friends and allies. Celebrity, business and philanthropic.
I just think people need to get a bit more realistic around here.
I was happy to see them out and about, especially at something like this. People think they’re hiding away but they’re just minding their business and not having everything they do documented. Seems kind of a quirky even, birthday turned vow renewal, especially with Kris Jenner. The way people get in knots over who these two hang out with or not.
Thank you Snuffles, AKA Voice of Reason.
No one should talk to Brad Pitt but no one is saying anything about that.
Does anybody know how the DM gets these photos? Did a guest whip out an Iphone? Are they taken through windows. They definitely are unposed and sneaky.
Ellen herself posted the video and they just took screenshots of the guests when they panned to the group.
Ellen is not good people.
Guessing you won’t miss the invitation she didn’t send you.
This is a weird comment. Obviously I won’t. Just because someone is famous doesn’t mean I would want to know them.
Happy to hear.
Portia looks lovely.
Ellen could have dressed up a little more, she looks like she just came in from outside.
I’ve always thought Ellen was a phony, not that funny, and high maintenance.
But they seem happy together so, Congrats!
Ellen is seriously wealthy from house flipping isn’t she? On top of her daytime show income?
she did just come in from outside, it was a surprise. you can see her toss her carkeys on the table in the longer video (posted above, not the short clips on Ellen’s yt video)
Any chance the Waleses will host a swath of celebrities for a glamor filled party to prove they have A-list friends? Even a better chance the Waleses will have them over to one of their private homes? The only time I see William and Kate mingling with celebrities is at an engagement or event; nor has the celeb had them over at his/her house. I wonder if the only reason celebs hang out with the royals is hope they make it on the New Years’ Hounors list.
If I ditched every friend who has ever said/done something inappropriate or problematic or that offended my personal values, I’d be a very lonely person.
When people tell/show you who they really are, believe them…
Please tell me this is satire, LOL.
Maybe Ellen has shown herself to be solid and reliable friend/ally
I don’t get this conversation. H & M left royal life, told their story and now they’re private citizens who can go where they like and do as they please. Why the hypervigilance and anxiety about their private lives? If you want to support them, support their projects.
It’s a bit strange. Like Meghan said she’s become this culture war mascot and I feel like people on either side have attached themselves to her to push their own agendas. Whether anti monarchy, anti racists or racists/monarchy.
I feel like people that have followed Meghan from Suits know who she is and she’s still the same person maybe just more guarded than she was previously.
considering the invasion of privacy she’s experienced who wouldn’t be.
But a lot of her stories, likes, goofiness, nerdiness, charity is still the same.
People have projected onto her who they want her to be instead of actually getting to know her.
So when she doesn’t meet their expectations they go on tantrums or use that to justify their supposed “criticisms.”
Part of me wants them to go underground so people would leave them alone but is that really fair to ask? Why should Meghan especially have to disappear to be left alone? She should be able to live her life freely like every other normal person or celebrity without constant unfair judgement or criticism.
“People have projected onto her who they want her to be instead of actually getting to know her.”
People do this with celebrities in general. The Sussexes are just an extremely volatile topic for a lot of people so it’s in overdrive in regards to them – on both sides.
They’re aware of this, I’m sure. I don’t think they let it bug them, as far as they can.
Right? H & M shouldn’t have to do anything. Maybe we all need to learn to mind our own business.
Consider this: perhaps Ellen is using the Sussex magic to rehabilitate her own image.
OR
Maybe they’re just friendly neighbors.
OR
They’re friends.
Does it matter?
Am I the only one who thinks that surprise vow renewals are a really bad idea? I am forever an eager beaver and I rushed to comment without reading the previous ones, so if others have suggested this before me, my apologies 😋
@Annalise, that was my first thought, too! Not that I don’t adore my husband, but I never even liked surprise parties when I was little and made it clear that I never wanted one. I’d be *mortified* to walk in looking like Ellen does, with Portia looking all gorgeous in that wedding gown, lol.
@Lorelei- I definitely had to laugh at myself for stating in my last comment that I was sorry if others made the same sentiment as mine in the previous comments, as I often comment, THEN read the ones before me, because BOY was I wrong this time! 😂 Many passionate discussions were being had, but barely a ONE about the problematic nature of surprise vow renewals! 😁 It just goes to show how varied are the aspects that jump out at us, even those of us that are of a similar mind on other topics! To that I say, viva la difference! 🤗 And regarding what you said about HATING surprise parties, I know EXACTLY how you feel! I would MURDER all involved if I unknowingly walked into a surprise party, of ANY type! And the last time my family attempted to have servers sing me happy birthday (when I was 11), the second I realized what was happening, I furiously lept up and booked it out of the restaurant, and waited by the car, arms folded, steam coming off of me, and a VERY stony look on my face.
And regarding surprise vow renewal specifically, I cannot even COUNT how many people I’ve known who thought their spouses were as happy, as devoted, and as faithful as THEY were. Who would have LOVED the idea of a surprise vow renewal, they were so sure of their partners’ devotion. Only to find out that their partners WEREN’T so devoted. To me, a surprise vow renewal is as manipulative and unfair, as asking someone to marry you in front of BOTH of the families who both support an engagement. The person being surprised is totally put in a position where if s/he says “whoa! Hang on a minute……” then s/he automatically becomes The Jerk.
Are perfect strangers parenting them now? This sounds like parents who don’t want their kids befriending someone they disapprove of and nagging them about it.
I will say this, people on this site were demanding that Meghan never speak to Jessica again. I never said that because hey people contain multitudes and all of that, but I think it’s funny. I thin most people are upset about them hanging out with Kris Jenner and it makes them seem “low rent.” I don’t agree by the way. I just think that’s why everyone’s being hyper defensive of this.
Also I just asked a friend who met/knows Ellen. Yeah her comment, she’s awful. And most celebrities she’s met are really nasty until they now/think you can do something for them.
When I saw the stills on Twitter of Harry and Meghan, I was just happy they were attending their neighbors’ party. And a very fine party I’m sure.
Every summer we have a neighborhood pot luck dinner, usually outdoors. Some people we like, some we don’t, but in the interest of getting along we behave like adults and play nice.
It’s Brandi Carlile not Carlisle.