At some point, the British tabloids will ease out of this hysterical “will the Sussexes be invited to the coronation” narrative. By the end of the month (hopefully) they’ll establish that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex were sent invitations, so then the narrative will be “how can we ensure that Harry and Meghan are visibly punished when they inevitably attend the Clowning?” They’ll continue to skip over the part where Harry and Meghan can make up their own minds about whether they’ll attend and how their attendance is contingent on several big, notable things. But I digress. The Daily Express has an exclusive about how the Sussexes will get invitations, and they’ll have to RSVP right away, because plans are afoot to ensure that – you guessed it – everyone knows that the Sussexes are being snubbed in some way. These people, I swear to God.
Prince Harry and Meghan Markle will be invited to the King’s Coronation this spring, it can be revealed. A detailed plan is underway to ensure the couple do not overshadow the proceedings in any way, a Whitehall source said, after Harry levelled allegations and criticism at the Royal Family in his memoir, Spare. “They’re on the list and planning is well underway to make sure the proceedings run as smooth as possible – without any drama”, they said.
Officials especially want to reduce the chance of Harry and Prince William being seen in public together, and are organising seating arrangements in Westminster Abbey to avoid the brothers being pictured together.
Invitations to the Westminster Abbey service will be sent out in the next few weeks after the final guest list is confirmed, the insider said. But they confirmed Harry and Meghan are currently on the 2,000-strong list, alongside royals – both domestic and foreign, dignitaries and world leaders. The Palace is currently working in close consultation with No10 and the Foreign Office to finalise the guest list.
While the invites are being prepared to be sent out later this month, the Sussexes won’t have long to make their minds up on whether they’re going to make the trip across the pond, as RSVPs are understood to be wanted by the start of April. Royal commentator Afua Hagan is adamant Harry will make the effort to appear, as he has his heart set on reconciling with his family. She said: “Attending the Coronation is the first step on the road to reconciliation.”
Harry and Meghan’s attendance at the Coronation will be meticulously crafted, insiders say, with organisers using the plans for the Queen’s Platinum Jubilee as a blueprint to ensure no awkward encounters – such as a public reunion with William and Kate – is avoided. Their arrival at the Abbey is set to mirror that of the service at St Paul’s Cathedral last June, where they arrive in a private car alone, and sit on the opposite side of the aisle to the Prince and Princess of Wales.
Harry and Meghan’s position on the aisle will also be well thought out to ensure the brothers are not captured in any shots together to avoid speculation over their relationship overshadowing the event.
“The focus will be on the vertical line of succession,” said royal historian Cindy McCreery. “Precedence will be given to William, Kate, George and his siblings.”
As I’ve said before, it’s my dream that the invitations go out and the British media spends months shrieking and wailing about picayune bullsh-t like seating charts and aisle seats, all while Meghan and Harry stay blessed and unbothered in Montecito. The cherry on top would be a one-sentence confirmation in early May that they are not attending. Oh, the meltdowns, oh the tantrums. I have no idea what will happen but I know that all of this horsesh-t in the tabloids is making it pretty easy for Harry to choose to stay home.
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- LONDON, ENGLAND – JUNE 03: Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex, and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex attend the National Service of Thanksgiving at St Paul’s Cathedral on June 03, 2022 in London, England. The Platinum Jubilee of Elizabeth II is being celebrated from June 2 to June 5, 2022, in the UK and Commonwealth to mark the 70th anniversary of the accession of Queen Elizabeth II on 6 February 1952.,Image: 696611774, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: -, Model Release: no, Credit line: Dan Kitwood / Avalon
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- The Duke and Duchess of Sussex arrive for the National Service of Thanksgiving at St Paul’s Cathedral, London, on day two of the Platinum Jubilee celebrations for Queen Elizabeth II. The National Service marks The Queen’s 70 years of service to the people of the United Kingdom, the Realms and the Commonwealth. Public service is at the heart of the event and over 400 recipients of Honours in the New Year or Birthday Honours lists have been invited in recognition of their contribution to public life. Drawn from all four nations of the United Kingdom, they include NHS and key workers, teaching staff, public servants, and representatives from the Armed Forces, charities, social enterprises and voluntary groups.,Image: 696613978, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: -, Model Release: no, Credit line: Kirsty O’Connor / Avalon
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- Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, Duke and Duchess of Sussex leave after a service of thanksgiving for the reign of Queen Elizabeth II at St Paul’s Cathedral in London, Friday, June 3, 2022 on the second of four days of celebrations to mark the Platinum Jubilee. The events over a long holiday weekend in the U.K. are meant to celebrate the monarch’s 70 years of service.,Image: 696640808, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: -, Model Release: no, Credit line: Matt Dunham / Avalon
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- The Duke and Duchess of Sussex arrive at St Paul’s cathedral for the service of thanksgiving for the Queen.,Image: 696641183, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: -, Model Release: no, Credit line: Richard Pohle / Avalon
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- Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, Duke and Duchess of Sussex leave after a service of thanksgiving for the reign of Queen Elizabeth II at St Paul’s Cathedral in London, Friday, June 3, 2022 on the second of four days of celebrations to mark the Platinum Jubilee. The events over a long holiday weekend in the U.K. are meant to celebrate the monarch’s 70 years of service.,Image: 696642820, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: -, Model Release: no, Credit line: Matt Dunham / Avalon
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- Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, Duke and Duchess of Sussex leave after a service of thanksgiving for the reign of Queen Elizabeth II at St Paul’s Cathedral in London, Friday, June 3, 2022 on the second of four days of celebrations to mark the Platinum Jubilee. The events over a long holiday weekend in the U.K. are meant to celebrate the monarch’s 70 years of service.,Image: 696653379, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: -, Model Release: no, Credit line: Matt Dunham / Avalon
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- Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, and Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex arrive for the National Service of Thanksgiving at St Paul’s Cathedral on June 03, 2022 in London, England. The Platinum Jubilee of Elizabeth II is being celebrated from June 2 to June 5, 2022, in the UK and Commonwealth to mark the 70th anniversary of the accession of Queen Elizabeth II on 6 February 1952.,Image: 696678032, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: -, Model Release: no, Credit line: ARTHUR EDWARDS / Avalon
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- Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, and Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex arrive for the National Service of Thanksgiving at St Paul’s Cathedral on June 03, 2022 in London, England. The Platinum Jubilee of Elizabeth II is being celebrated from June 2 to June 5, 2022, in the UK and Commonwealth to mark the 70th anniversary of the accession of Queen Elizabeth II on 6 February 1952.,Image: 696678053, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: -, Model Release: no, Credit line: ARTHUR EDWARDS / Avalon
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- Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, and Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex arrive for the National Service of Thanksgiving at St Paul’s Cathedral on June 03, 2022 in London, England. The Platinum Jubilee of Elizabeth II is being celebrated from June 2 to June 5, 2022, in the UK and Commonwealth to mark the 70th anniversary of the accession of Queen Elizabeth II on 6 February 1952.,Image: 696678335, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: -, Model Release: no, Credit line: ARTHUR EDWARDS / Avalon
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- Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, and Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex arrive for the National Service of Thanksgiving at St Paul’s Cathedral on June 03, 2022 in London, England. The Platinum Jubilee of Elizabeth II is being celebrated from June 2 to June 5, 2022, in the UK and Commonwealth to mark the 70th anniversary of the accession of Queen Elizabeth II on 6 February 1952.,Image: 696678455, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: -, Model Release: no, Credit line: ARTHUR EDWARDS / Avalon
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- Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, and Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex arrive for the National Service of Thanksgiving at St Paul’s Cathedral on June 03, 2022 in London, England. The Platinum Jubilee of Elizabeth II is being celebrated from June 2 to June 5, 2022, in the UK and Commonwealth to mark the 70th anniversary of the accession of Queen Elizabeth II on 6 February 1952.,Image: 696678462, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: -, Model Release: no, Credit line: ARTHUR EDWARDS / Avalon
“George and his siblings”. Again with the preference of George over C&L. But, but they are being raised SO normally. And they are focussing on the “vertical line” of succession. Isn’t the whole thing a “vertical line”? I guess, that means the other “working” royals aren’t getting to be on the balcony either?
Interesting that the so-called historian included Kate in that. Kate is NOT in the vertical line of succession. Only her husband and children are.
Exactly! And right after her last child comes Prince Harry, Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet. So to me none of this storyline makes sense. It’s just another gaslighting hatefilled story briefed to the media to attack the Sussex family by a bitter Peggy. I am so grateful that the Sussex’s have carved out their own financial independence and freedom from him. With his violent actions towards Prince Harry and uncontrollable incandescent rage none of the Sussex family is safe around him. Especially the children and Meghan.
Seriously, can you imagine what things would look like if Harry and Meghan were still in England, and Willnot had the duchy money at his disposal?
Charlotte and Louis not mentioned so much for Kate and will being examples of good parents in kates early years spin
Probably not. I imagine that only Charles and Camilla, Will and Kate, and the kids will be on the balcony.
If I’m getting this right, the whole point is to have the Sussexes attend in order to bolster up Charles’ ego, while staging some sort of punitive choreography customized to corner them, unyoke them from Henry’s blood relatives, and make them invisible 😔? Sick.
Harry and Meghan are left with a simple alternative: subject themselves to the ritual of humiliation or stay home to the coronation of their own little Prince : Archie.
The only line I would like to see, is one I have said about earlier, streaming on a banner from the back of a plane! If Harry and Megan do go, it should read “WELCOME BACK HARRY AND MEGAN, and if they don’t go it should read” WHERE’S HARRY AND MEGAN CHARLIE? Maybe we should start a crowd funding page 🤣🤣 wonder how Charlie chinless would react
Weren’t the police harassing some guy recently for just holding up a blank piece of paper in a public square? If I was over there I’d be careful about expressing anything.
Probably be a wide no-fly zone anyway.
Yeah true, if William dies before he ascends the throne, Kate becomes a Queen Mother right? Or actually a Dowager Queen since she would be a widow.
I love the that all these different events, Meghan appears to be the only one enjoying herself, enjoying the music, the pomp and the spectacle. Everyone else is caught up in their own stew of jealousy, insecurities and rage. Stay happy Meg, stay happy!
@Harla you know what? if the Sussexes attend the clowning l wish Meghan would wear the Spencer’s tiara!
It’s a tiara occasion, right? That’s another way they’ll be punitive : not giving Meg a tiara. These people! Presumably? Spenser will be there and his wife will wear the Spenser tiara.
@The Old Chick: If you really want to derail that Camilla Clownation, it would take the Prime Minister of Jamaica to issue the Sussexes a direct invite and greet them with whopping hugs on May 6.
@The Old Chick: If I were Meghan, I would just go buy my own tiara. LOL! LOL!
Yes, I love how she manages to look sanguine. It must piss the others off. The exception was the funeral and that’s how you know how very, very bad it must have been for her.
Every event that brought Harry and Meghan back to the UK has been in direct connection to their charities, the queen (Jubbly + funeral), Philip’s funeral, and Diana memorial! To be so confident that they will show up for the corona when there’s no love, remorse, compassion, or care from his relative towards his family will end up blowing up in the firm + Rota’s faces!!
Let’s hope that it does. As much as i want them to stay away from this clown show, i can actually see them going.
I don’t want them to go at all but I see them going to the ceremony and that’s it. I don’t see them going to the events afterwards ( just like the Jubilee)
I think they will be going too
God, I hope not. The Jubbly was semi-okay because the queen wanted them there, therefore the family couldn’t fully act out. The funeral they got nasty, but tried hard to keep their nasty under wraps because it was such a solemn event. This coronation however will be no holds barred, and I fear they will relish abusing H&M out in the open far too much. I hope hoping so, so badly that they don’t attend.
The cherry on top of the cherry on top would be photos coming out a week later of them doing a low-key charity engagement on the same day!
It’s Archie’s birthday so I doubt they would but it’s funny how William and the rest of them think that they would go on a random walkabout on their kids birthday just to upstage them. Because that’s exactly what they would do if it was reversed. The Sussexes aren’t going to spend anymore time away from their kids than is necessary. Especially when Archie is now old enough to potentially remember this birthday.
They’ve set this up now in such a way that whether the Sussexes are there or enjoying Archie’s birthday in Cali they will be the center of attention, not Charles and the lovely Camilla.
@Afken: Charles knew what he was doing by putting the coronation on Archie’s birthday.
@ Amy Bee, yes. Charles set it for that date as he wants acknowledgement from his son as to who is more important to him. Archie or Papa. What a manipulative, spineless and arrogant man-child he is.
Not sure KFC chose Archie’s birthday date himself. This is cruel twisted Camilla’s doing, upping the stakes in the game. She’s a psychopath having a blast driving this whole “will they or won’t they attend?” campaign with the press. Harry please don’t go to the clowning. You hold all the cards. Stick to your guns and get your apologies!
It doesn’t matter who chose Archie’s birthday date to create a false sense of dilemma. All that matters is that Chucky gave his seal of approval to the maneuver.
Well, they’re not going to write about strikes, food banks or freezing in your own home with any sympathy for regular people so sure, obsess about whether two Californians are going to RSVP. I can’t see H&M wanting to be anywhere near this mess. New gold thrones and a carriage—are they kidding?!!
The clowning has been all about Harry and Meghan since the queen died! Chucky must be so mad at…Meghan because it has to be her fault he’s incredibly boring, tone-deaf, out of touch and beyond entitled. The rags pretending to be newspapers have generated a tonne of clicks/cash from all those “will they, won’t they attend the clowning” stories, which have removed the focus from Chucky and his need for new thrones, golden carriages, real ermine robes, cashmere underpants and the rest of it. Okay, so I don’t know if he’s asked for real ermine robes, but if one has already commissioned a new golden coach and throne, new robes are a must.
“Attending the [CONoration] is the first step toward reconciliation.”
BWWWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!
These f*ckers live in their own heads don’t they? They’re so used to not hvng to consider any other POV but their own.
H said the complete opposite of what this clown said. H said the reconciliation ball is in chuckyDaTurd’s and BullyWilly’s hands. And that the first step is an apology to his wife and an acceptance of accountability.
He said further that he doesn’t really expect an apology, therefore: “My wife and I….we’re moving on.”
I’m intensely curious to know exactly what part of that do arse-licking royal sycophants not get.
@Kingston: Fact reversal has been camp Karen’s favorite disparaging and demeaning tug-of-war tactics to impose their terms and media narrative.
The problem is that the Sussexes have been emotionally hurt but rather undaunted.
“Attending the Coronation is the first step on the road to reconciliation. ” No, it’s not. Clever the way she’s reframing Harry’s preconditions for attendance. Harry’s attendance depends on Charles, not Harry.
Yep, it’s like the Palace assumes if they say it enough it becomes true. Harry told you what to do. I think he might just be strong enough to hold his boundaries. I do think Meghan had more practice holding boundaries with her crazy father’s family and was further along in practicing them; but Harry has shown a lot of growth and seems to be coming to an understanding about who he is dealing with. I hope he enforces his limits and protects his family. Charles and his minions looked like petty Jackesss at Lizzy’s farewell, if Harry caves I have no doubt Charles will ho all out to humiliate H&M and probably the tiny kids again. Charles can’t help himself he is in fact a petty jackass
I can’t imagine that Harry and Meghan would attend, especially considering how they were treated at Elizabeth’s funeral. I would be really disappointed if the go. But who knows what goes on behind the scenes. But I wouldn’t hold my breathe that Charles would apologize and want to talk. William is even a bigger longshot.
Well, they were trapped in England for almost 3 weeks because of protocol and Harry wanted to be there to honor her. For the Coronation they could be in and out in 48 hours.
They will most likely be there for the ceremony but there will be no private meetings or reconciliations going on. Harry says he supports the monarchy and will probably go. He will insist on bringing Meghan because that’s his wife and won’t allow his family to cut her out. The kids will stay at home because they are too young for this.
@Snuffles: Harry implied that reconciliation would have to take place for him to consider going to the coronation. I think if there’s no movement on Charles’s side he won’t be there. If the Palace only invites him, he won’t be there either. I think their treatment at the Queen’s funeral changed a lot of things for Harry and I don’t think he’s willing to put up with abuse anymore for the sake of the monarchy.
@Snuffles Harry said that he supports the concept of a monarchy if changes are made from the one that exists now. The Rota, courtiers and the in palace working against each other are a few of the issues he has raised in his book and interviews.
What’s to stop the royals from trapping them again with made up protocol?
I don’t want them to go because I don’t think Meghan’s safe there, but they will probably go anyway.
Harry said he wanted an apology for his wife.. then he’d be willing to attend their functions. He made his terms crystal clear, I don’t understand why you all believe he’s willing to budge.
If they do attend, I hope they don’t find a way to separate the two, so that we see the awful images of Meghan frozen out, standing by herself, as if in disgrace. Medieval torture. I’m sure the Mean Girls (Camilla, Kate, Sophie) enjoy doing that to somebody who is clearly superior to them in every way. And it plays horribly in the U.S., since Meghan is not only American but also mixed race.
I’m not sure if they will or won’t, but I do know that if they don’t go, it will be held over Harry’s head forever as a reason why the family can’t ever reconcile with him. Personally, I (and I think the vast majority of commenters here) think Harry and Meghan are infinitely better off going no-contact with the royals and focusing on their happy life together, but from their past actions and everything written in Spare, Harry isn’t there yet. Unless he’s ready to completely burn the bridge of reconciliation with his family, he pretty much has to attend. He *shouldn’t* want to reconcile, but unfortunately he still does.
As a side note, I am vehemently against the concept of monarchy in general and this sh*tshow of a monarchy in particular, and even I would probably attend the coronation. It’s a once (or twice) in a lifetime event that hasn’t occurred in 70 years, and if you’re able to remove any personal expectations or temporarily ignore the larger implications (because let’s face it, whether we approve or not, it’s going to happen), it’s sure to be a complete spectacle. I imagine the urge to rubberneck the slow-moving impending disaster that is the British monarchy is even stronger if it’s your actual family.
Harry is the second son of the monarch and if we’re talking precedence, he comes right after Louis, who most likely will not be at the main ceremony (honestly if it were me I wouldn’t even bring Charlotte, who will be just barely 8). So they should still be featured prominently. Anything else would be seen as a snub and the international press will report on it as such. The rota aren’t in charge of this story, you know?
@Becks: All three children will be there Charles was 4 when he attended his mother’s coronation. Plus the press will order William and Kate to bring all of the children to the event.
How long is the whole ceremony? Cannot imagine a 4yr old sitting through that. Some 4year olds possibly could without a problem but not sure they need to.
@AmyBee I feel like Charles attending at 4 was different bc he was the direct heir, but I do think you’re right the press will order all the children there. Imagine Louis acting up like he did at the Jubbly, lol.
The press wanted Louis at the Christmas walkabout and so he went. I I think all three will go. Louis may go for most of the events the elder two may be at all of them
Charles was not sitting in the main section at his mother’s coronation. There was a separate area where he was with his grandmother and I believe Queen Mary as well.
Charles sat with his grandmother the queen mother and his aunt princess margaret. Anne joined Charles later on the balcony appearance
Odds on Kate forcing them into replica outfits of what Charles and Anne wore. Or the boys will wear a copy of what Charles wore, Charlotte will wear a copy of what QEII and Princess Margaret wore to their father’s coronation.
Adding, I could see Kate trying to get QEII’s (or Margaret’s) dress from the Archive and putting it on Charlotte. If the Archive or Charles forbids that, she has a replica made. Margaret’s dress would be more likely to fit but we’d be told it was QEII’s dress regardless. Kate’s probably steamed about Beatrice getting attention for wearing one of QEII’s old gowns as her wedding dress. This would be one of Kate’s weird attempts at ‘fashion revenge’.
No afua, the first step to reconciliation is an apology to harry’s wife.
The bottomline is the press has no idea what’s going on. They say that the Palace doesn’t want Harry and Meghan to overshadow the event but even though they only attended 2 events for the Jubilee they still ended up overshadowing the festivities by being absent. Whether they go or not they’re going to overshadow the coronation.
H&M are going to overshadow the event bc they’re going to be the only people the press talks about before, during and after the Chubbly lol. So they’ll overshadow it but it will be the fault of the press.
@Exactly. Everyday of the Jubilee, the press was asking where are Harry and Meghan? It’s going to happen again if they go and if they don’t go the talk will be about them not being there.
It’s quite comical how they are all getting their panties in a twist about H&M. You would think that England is swimmingly experiencing a brilliant come back and there are no strikes, no heat and not enough food to eat. That all of England and the rest of her CW countries are standing well and tall.
No matter what they do, all eyes will be on H&M if they go. So why fight it? Isn’t that the whole point? You have superstars who can legitimize or improve the popularity of your immoral monarchy institution, and you refuse it because you’re too vain and stupid and egotistical to let them save your way of life for you. Because they’re the only ones who can save it, but you’d rather cut off your whole face to spite someone prettier and more magnetic than you, and die in the process, than accept you ain’t all that and can’t do it alone.
It’s like they don’t even know what a reconciliation is. Or they do and they’re purposely twisting it, which is the more likely scenario. Attending a huge coronation, in which you’ll be snubbed out of the way, with minimal contact with the people in which you want to reconcile. That’s not a first step. That’s a massive step back. Talks and an apology.
They’re signaling that they only want them there for appearances. So the “reconciliation” would be, at best, cosmetic. At worst, it’s more abuse.
@ BR, yes. Chuckles purely wants Harry to attend for his own PR graces, not to the benefit of Harry.
What the RR’s seem to forget is that Harry has stated specifically that genuine apology is needed first and foremost. Unless his father and brother offer those apologies, why would Harry and Meghan entertain the idea of going?
One thing for sure, curtains will be closed during this Chubfest, no way any more long range grainy photos of H&M NOT on the balcony are going to come out this time.
Now that I’ve listened to the memoir all I can think is the media – the very same people reporting this trash – won’t let it happen this way; if the Sussexes attend the media will intentionally focus on Harry and Meghan so as to spin the narrative that they’re trying to steal the show. Here’s an idea: don’t take photos of them, idiots. Or maybe the palace should stop allowing the press in. Because according to Harry, that’s the real problem, and I agree.
IMO, all signs indicate H&M will probably attend. I think they’ll bring the kids, too, and host a small birthday party with the cousins and friendly family at Frogmore like they did with Lili. The trip will be brief, but will have some time set aside for W + KC to meet with H&M face to face. If the terms are met, then H&M will visit and maybe make future appearances with and for the royal family. If not, then it’s a deal breaker.
What signs are you seeing?
Rainbows and unicorns. Dream away, Mrs. Smith. This is Charles big day. Camilla will see to it that C and Wm will not be setting aside time for H and M. There is too much chance that Wm will get physical and Camilla will make sure nothing gets in the way of their mutual crowning. The Monarchy comes first, family last.
@ Mrs Smith — I agree with you. H or M&H have literally attended every event we swore up and down they wouldn’t — including the Jubbly. There is clearly much behind the scenes we aren’t privy to and H has an entire ass family there.
@ Surely Not, but don’t you remember how Meghan flinched away from KKKHate at the walkabout?? She certainly acted in a vicious manner for Meghan to physically respond in such a manner.
There was a great deal of harm caused during QEII’s death and funeral.
Why would you put your family in harms way again??
@Both — Harry supports the monarchy, by his own words and he wants a relationship with his father, this was AFTER TQ’s funeral— yes, I know he said the ball is in Chuck’s court and as I said, we have no idea what is going on behind the scenes. I will not be surprised at all if they attend.
@SurelyNot
Harry supports the monarchy FOR NOW. Breaking free from brainwashing can take a while, and I suspect that in a few years’ time, he won’t be a vocal supporter. I don’t think he’ll ever go “full abolish” because he’s still related to those vipers, but the longer he stays in California, the weaker the spell of nostalgia will be.
It’s always annoyed me when people pull the “DIANA WAS A MONARCHIST” card. Sure, she was then. But had she lived, you can’t tell me that she still would’ve been loyally supporting Liz and Company, especially since she (Diana) would have been thrown to the wolves even more that she had previously to cover up royal sins.
It’s just a hunch based on past behavior. Harry has been there for all the important moments and this feels no different (to me!). Ultimately, H&M will be magnanimous and give every opportunity to Wills & Charles (if for nothing but optics), showing up in person to make it the easiest possible reconciliation. If they are still rebuffed, it will be a long time until they return.
Fan fiction. They’re not going. “The signs” are that Harry said he’s waiting on his family to reach out, that the ball is in their court. There is no way Charles and William are going to do that. All signs point to continued estrangement. And Meghan and Harry spending the day in Montecito celebrating their son’s birthday.
There are no signs of reconciliation at all, and these people do not act with an ounce of remorse, empathy or compassion for the Sussexes. Harry and Meghan are not communicating with the rota so any *news* of them attending is simply hyperbole. There will be no reuniting without an apology from Chuck and Pegs, and the likelihood of that happening is slim to none. And to drag a couple of toddlers across the planet only to face a barrage of hate-filled screed in the tabloids, and to be insulted and ignored by the family, is ludicrous.
I was just thinking that if the Sussexes DO attend, they would organize some kind of party for Archie. Even if they attend the coronation, they’re not going to ignore their kid’s birthday just because Charles finally gets to be King. The rota will have a field day with that “Sussexes snub Charles!” but at the end of the day, I don’t think they care, their little family comes first. End of story.
ETA: I don’t think they will associate with Will and Kate if they don’t have to do so. Eugenie and maybe Bea at the party, sure. But not W&K and especially not at anything celebrating Archie.
I’m 60-40 towards them going. As you point out, none of us are privy to anything. We speculate as much as the press—about the Diana statue, the jubilee, the funerals and now the coronation. Not to mention the surprise visit to the queen en route to invictus. Everything they’ve attended, save the charities they were visiting when the queen died, has been related to family. Harry May feel he needs to not ‘snub’ his father (or have that be the press narrative) on his big day, while things are still so tenuous, if there can be any future. And Harry’s said he wants one. But if they go, it’s the jubilee revisited. The big event in church and that’s it. They’re outta there. And Archie’s young enough that missing a birthday isn’t a big deal, they’d be gone such a short period, they coukd do something a day or so later. Because I’m leaning towards them NOT bringing the kids. The jubilee was possibly, and turned out to be so, their only chance to meet their great grandmother. They’ve met Charles, they don’t need to fly over there for a quick visit.
Honestly same.
As much as I don’t want them to go, family is a complicated thing, and while the press may be having a field day over the same stories in a different font, we really don’t know what conversations are happening behind the scenes.
I won’t speculate further than that i.e the kids, will they won’t they, etc. But I will say that until Harry and Meghan say otherwise, I’m going off the assumption that they’ll attend in a limited capacity as they did with the jubbly.
Aren’t there a few court cases to be heard before this clown show chubbly even takes place? With recent events that have happened and the subjects seeming to call out the royals more and more at their public appearances I think security issues will be a huge factor in the Sussex’s decision whether to attend or not. I wouldn’t put it past Peggy and cowmilla to pull security for them when they are on British soil. Their safety and security are really my biggest concern with them attending. The rags are going to attack them either way i imagine Peggy, Katy and Cow will be briefing like rabid dogs.
@ Cessily, excellent point!!! Chuckles is refusing security for H&M and yet he expects them to come without security which he has been fighting for 9+ months by now. And who can forget the security fakata in Canada.
Why would he put his life and the life of his children in jeopardy when Chuckles is willing to not demand security for them??
Since the bm made Harry and even more current and bigger target by calling the Taliban and being sympathetic to the number of Taliban killed, I think the easiest thing H&M can say is that they’ve been advised not to attend because of the raised threat level. Now, I’m petty, so I would add that it’s in direct response to the bm’s articles. Put the responsibility where it belongs. How can anyone argue with that?
After the death of the queen I put nothing past these people. I remember the absolutely horrific attacks that were aimed at Princess Diana only for them to try and act like they mourned her death that they and the media caused.
No one is stupid. Harry would have iron clad arrangements. And London will be positively crawling with security. MI5&6, the police and the military. No one’s braving that to try to get a shot at the Sussexes. This would actually probably be the best time for them to visit. I’d be way more worried during low intensity visits.
“ A detailed plan is underway to ensure the couple do not overshadow the proceedings in any way.”
Too late, unnamed source, the Sussexes are already overshadowing the proceedings and they haven’t even been invited yet.
For real.
I mean, SNL’s finale is usually the first or second Saturday in May. That would be a trip…and a good excuse to say no.
Not like Harry knows me or cares what I think. However if I were to give him advice, I would say stay home where you are at peace. Unless your father and brother are willing to put out public statements themselves saying we are sorry for the hurt and abuse we have caused you and Meghan and Archie and lili, then I would stand my ground and not budge . It’s been my experience that if you let them get away with not acknowledging what they have done, then they will continue to do it and never apologize for their behavior. If you want to really show these people that you mean business. Then you need to stand firm and not budge until that apology is given and the media knows it . Tell the media to also back off the abuse and that must also be done publicly. Otherwise the gaslighting and racist hateful treatment will never end and this so call family will never take you seriously
I co-sign you paragraph. For me it is more important for Harry to stand his ground rather then to capitulate to this farcical event.
@Over It, the kicker is that H has already accepted that his family (i:e Chucky and Bully) will NOT apologize or accept accountability for their role in causing the current impasse. He has literally said as much and also said he & M are “moving on” and are focusing on their future.
To us out here who hv no respect or regard for the brf as an institution or for chucky and bully as human beings, the logical conclusion is that H&M will NOT attend the CoronaVIRUS.
However, H&M and their children and their descendants yet to be born, hv a unique place in history so H&M hv much greater considerations than we, the onlookers hv, to think abt.
Nevertheless, I believe tht H is aware tht if and when Bully takes the throne, the Sussexes will be completely unwelcome in the brf, especially given that, by then, the notion of the British royal “family” will be practically nonexistent.
So I believe H will consider the cost-benefit analysis of continuug to subject himself, his wife & kids to the unnecessary & unwelcome staus-quo during what is expected to be Chucky’s brief reign, VS the inevitable reality that Bully will not hesitate, the minute he gets the throne, to use his shidtmedia and palace sycophant mouthpieces to take his revenge on H.
I co sign as well. It would be quite a line crossed if H does not attend the coronation. The king would not be able to dodge responsibility in any way. Also, it’s splitting hairs but the ceremony is about the monarchy not his family/father so I can see H not weighing it the same as a funeral.
For whatever reason, my comment on their attendance was deleted. 🤷♀️ Anyway, long story short, I think they go. No way they go to William’s though unless he does a complete 180 after intensive therapy.
I know that Harry said that an apology and some accountability were incumbent on a reconciliation between him and his family, but did he imply that his appearance at the Coronation was incumbent on a reconciliation? I’m not clear on that. I can see Harry attending the Coronation as a duty, perhaps.
This article confirms that the attacks during the jubbly claiming Harry and Meghan manipulated the Queen into giving them the solo aisle entrance was a lie. It was obviously a lie to us sane people because that is all the media seem to be capable of and because that isn’t who Harry and Meghan have ever shown themselves to be and because it would require manipulating more that the queen and making changes beyond her control. This article also makes it clear that their half brain excuse (or baby brain excuse) that Kate only turned around like a fasting mean girl during the service because Harry and Meghan supposedly changed their seating arrangements last minute. They just confirmed that everything that happened during the jubbly, especially the snubbing, was done intentionally and forethought to prevent the Sussexes from over shadowing them. Which means that they have every plan to continue the same abusive behavior during this crooked crowning event as the Jubbly and Queen’s funeral.
I like how Twitter shows the mean girl behavior of Kate like her turning around at that service and her quick change to mean girl at the race track.
The family events Harry has gone to over the last few years were for his grandmother, who in his own words, he had a great relationship with. He doesn’t have a relationship with his father currently, he said “the ball is in their court,” and it’s obvious that there is no mending of fences happening. There’s no way Harry and Meghan are going to put themselves in the position of having to deal with being snubbed and treated like crap by his family anymore.
I don’t believe Chuck is capable of producing an apology, to anyone. I doubt he’s ever made even one. If H&M go, I think Chuckie will still diss them by not allowing them on the balcony with Cam & the PoWs.
Risky to go. Willy might have another rage-fit & try to push H over a balcony rail or in front of a car, which would further damage the image of the monarchy & might even end this farce, with Chuck as the last “ruler.”
Is it true that Tom Cruise rates an invite? Hilarious if so. Betcha bitchy Susan will be there.
The RF, the BM, and a very many Brits really want to punish Harry and his mixed race family. The endless desire to humiliate and bully Harry and Meghan is both astonishing and exhausting. The “white is right” view explains their utter hatred and panic that Duchess Meghan, Princess Lil, and Prince Archie are indeed part of the royal family. There can be no other explanation for the racial abuse they have heaped upon Meghan for the last 6 years.
All of the bleating, briefing, and raging done by the RF and the British press is giving the plantation-era vibes of wanting runaway slaves to be captured so they can be punished, tortured, and made examples.
I trust H&M will do what they think is best.
It’s gonna be a long few months until the Chubbly.
“…to ensure no awkward encounters – such as a public reunion with William and Kate – is avoided.”
This sentence makes absolutely no sense. Who wrote it? A 5 year-old? It should read “to ensure any awkward encounters are avoided.”
In any event, all this conjecture, frothing at the mouth and poorly written nonsense should be sufficient to ensure they will have ALL the eyeballs if they deign to show up at all.
I’ve said this multiple times but I hope they don’t go. Also, don’t put out any statements confirming or denying anything. The RF didn’t publicly support you when Clarkson wrote that hate-filled article, don’t publicly support them for PR. This is a “historical event” but is it really of historical importance? I don’t see anyone asking in the next 20-50 years, where were you when Charles the turd was crowned king. Nobody outside of their bubble really cares.
It will be of historical importance if H&M don’t go.
This smells of William and Cam in their unholy union again. I haven’t seen this level of unwillingness to “let it go” and stop trying to control Harry and his narrative because it sounds desperate and makes Harry look like the center of their universe. Its not doing what they think it is doing. I think Charles is trying the middle road with the help of the archbishop and Will can’t stomach that Charles is pulling rank and putting this obvious distortion of reality again to show Charles ” if comes he comes and we need to treat him like dirt”. I don’t think he will come because this isn’t about Diana, his charities or a family funeral. I dont know the last time I read something this pathetic is I because the UK public is letting it be known that they want Harry/or that it will look worse if he is not there and now they painted themselves into a corner. They want to use them for a distraction if their is backlash over the chubbly or if it goes well. Either way its to use them and Will cant stand that Harry is needed in any way. Like he should be enough “son” to cover everything for Charles and that is not what he is hearing in response.
I do not have any idea of what Harry and Meghan should do in response to this latest article.
But reading it in its entirety and stacked with others of its ilk, a pattern emerges that indicate the the new exposed contract is not temporary nor accidental.
The contract is being used against perceived enemies, other members of the family as diversion and distraction or punishment, as a political tool, scapegoating, to gain revenge in the form of leaks.
The courtiers, palace sources, royal sides and friends, all in inverted commas, have been instructed to do whatever they are doing.
It is clear that William has prevailed, he hates and envies his brother and does not want him there.
The father does not want the optics of disunity within the family, although he would rather Harry and Meghan not attend, hence this passive aggressive missile in the Express.
They will be relegated to the cheap seats with the optics, similar to the service of the jubilee.
The Queen did not do the seating arrangements in that either, but she ensured that Meghan and Harry attended as guests of hers on request.
This will be included to give the father a undeserved pass to any potential criticism. But there is no indication that he is fond or even like his son at this time.
It is evident that this is a clear case of family estrangement.
There is no reconciliation, because Harry stated clear conditions for any rapprochement with the monarch and the heirs.
I am unsure if the rest of the family is allowed to have any meaningful nor sociable interaction with the Sussexes.
This is it going forward, Harry has succeeded in becoming the man he could only imagined via his courageous stand.
The article is unequivocal, that this better version of himself is infuriating to leakers, and its an effort to ‘keep him in his place’ that of servitude to the two and their ???
They have refused to entertain any further discussion on Harry’s reason considerations.
The question is:-
What does Harry have to lose except the mind numbing conditions to make himself smaller, not be his authentic self when around the monarch and his heir??
Maybe is time to really redefine the meaning of family, and let that be the deciding factor.
Would it would not be a bad decision to avoid the vainglorious individuals who are the centre of the event by not attending??
Harry just have to prevent himself to be seen as blameworthy, it is all on the monarch and his heir.
What about the media ratings in the face of non-attendance of the Sussexes??
Viewing interest will be lower, but will be exaggerated. As per the course.
The propagandists will be all out.
Adverts monies are even less available, but there would be the usual noise.
Some people will find their self esteem in this display. But most importantly, life goes on.
Viewers who like drama will get it from the usual ‘baying hyenas’, it will be all over except for the shouting.
@Well Wisher I agree that Will is all over this trying to make it look like he is still in control after failing to trump the king about reaching out to Harry. I do think Charles wants him there because I frankly don’t think chubbly is generating any real excitement on its own. I also think the obvious leaks from Will embarrassed Charles because Will is becoming to obvious and making to many back to back mistakes using leaks. This is Wills moment to overshadow Harry by acting like a King but he just cant and he is willing go to the media to leak a rift with Charles as a threat which makes them both look weak and not “in lock step” about Harry. Charles is trying to save his own ass that is for sure but is willing to not diminish and humiliate Harry in the process and that is exactly what Will wants. I find Will sadistic and obsessed with punishment and humiliation in general. He isn’t saying nice things about Kate either just that she is there and exists.
1. Will wants to humiliate, control and control H&;M at the chubbly
2. Charles wants to save himself and have a distraction aka Harry against any negative press and move on after the coronation. He wants the “look how strong our king is when he child is treating him so badly or the look what a strong king he is from brining H back into the fold and he didn’t have to apologize because he did nothing wrong”
3. Camilla is in Wills ear fanning this rage against H because Charles backed off and tried to think of a way to include him
4. Kate is on that happy stuff and is in full battle LOLOLOL I cant without laughing . Will is to focused on H to notice what a fool she is making of herself
They have never looked for dysfunctional, obviously vile, obsessed with H&M, inbed with the media then they do now.
Harry stay home, stay safe I put NOTHING past the media or the wrotten Royals. They will all work hand in hand to ensure that no matter what ACTUALLY happens, or what is ACTUALLY said, the press will say that you and your wife were snubbed, and it will be cowmilla and the terrible twosome that are fuelling the narrative. Cowmilla has her tame paps, BULLYAM has his throbing veins and his gritted teeth (not to mention that screaming red dome, botox barbie has been practising her mean girl stare and your father is that thick and oblivious to everything but his own selfish wants and needs that he WON’T CARE what you and Megan are subject to, what lies are written or what harm might befall you. Remember it was that sorry excuse for a father that said “Harry who” and what ever love means ffs. What love means is caring and protecting and being happy within your family unit. Without the bloody need of Palaces, titles or country estates. So in terms you will understand Harry, tell them to Foxtrot Oscar, you know the media will write what ever they want to write, but your family, won’t just stab you in the back, they will go around and pull it through your chest. YOU DON’T NEED THEM, but by christ they need you, and it’s showing
I hope and pray they won’t go. The Brits will tie themselves into KNOTS over them not going which will completely overshadow the Chubbly. That will be a lot more fun for all of us than reading endless articles from the British press & royal supporters all trying to punish them for existing because they went.
I think that Harry should decline the invitation. There would be such panic that Charles and his side piece may actually try to reconcile before the event, to get him to change his mind. Harry is a great strategist, I think he has a plan. I got my popcorn ready…
Oooooo Shirley I never even thought of that! Decline the invitation as a check mate move
Attending the clowning is not the first step in reconciliation, an apology and acknowledgement of wrongdoing on the part of the royal family is the first step.
If Harry and Meghan don’t attend the Chubbly I’ll be happy. If they do attend I’ll be happy as well as I’ll be riveted on what Meghan is wearing and on how Harry stands head and shoulders above everyone else.
I’m already sick of the Chubbly bullshit, and I’m American. I have to seek it out to see it, so it’s my own damn fault really. But what’s it like on that island? It must be suffocating.
In my dreams, Meg glides into the crowning ceremony in a flawless classic gown designed by a Jamaican, Bahamian, or Scottish designer (because they’re all trying to leave the Commonwealth for very good reasons) wearing a breathtaking, simple tiara designed just for her by Cartier (because, Tank watch) and Harry walks in with a meticulously-fitted tux by Adrien Sauvage (Ghanaian and Nigerian descent, London-born and currently based in Los Angeles and oh my word that man can cut a suit). They stay just long enough to be counted, “Present” for the ceremony and then disappear to some private estate, kick off their shoes, and celebrate Archie’s birthday with Oprah, Beyonce, Tyler Perry, and anyone else the RF has forgotten the name of.
nutella toast, I like your dreams. I particularly like them staying just long enough for the photo op and then exiting stage left. LOVE IT!
Harry and Meghan will do what’s best for them. No matter what, they’ll outshine the rest of that dreary family.
They’re not staying home. That’s delusional.
I hope they’ll release something along the line of:
On May the 6th we shall celebrate our sons 4th birthday at our family’s home in Montecito.
We wish King Charles all the best for his coronation that he chose to schedule on the same day.