The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have not confirmed anything regarding King Charles’s coronation, or “Chubbly.” Sidenote: the reason why I love the “Chubbly” nickname so much is because so much of this “coronation drama” is just regurgitated Jubbly melodrama from last year. The British media is using the exact same talking points and they’re having the exact same hissy fits about Harry and Meghan refusing to play their game. The only reason why the Sussexes even went to the Jubbly last year is because Queen Elizabeth invited them personally, and she made the effort to ensure that Harry, Meghan and their children were kept safe throughout their visit. By all accounts, Charles has NOT personally invited the Sussexes, nor will he ensure their safety. Instead, the palace machinery seems to be whipping up all kinds of angst, melodrama and fury towards the very idea that the Sussexes would attend.
As I said, it’s driving them all crazy that H&M aren’t playing the game and they haven’t said one word either way about their attendance. The palace keeps briefing the papers and saying that they assume the Sussexes will attend and everything will be “meticulously planned” to keep Harry and Meghan away from William and Kate. Asinine. Well, guess who briefed the Mail again this weekend? You guessed it. Now it seems like the Sussexes will have to be kept away from the Wessexes as well.
The Royal Family is ‘fully expecting’ both the Duke and Duchess of Sussex to attend the Coronation, friends reveal. A well-placed source said that many relatives had been ‘spitting feathers’ about some of the allegations made by Prince Harry in his autobiography and the interviews to publicise it. However, the family is now bracing themselves for a visit from their Montecito relatives.
A friend said: ‘Members of the family have told me that both Harry and Meghan will definitely come. They fully expect that. And they should realise that there is only one subject that many members of the Royal Family will be willing to discuss… and that’s the weather.’
Coronation invitations – including those for Harry and Meghan – are expected to be sent out imminently. When they do, the pressure will be on the Sussexes to decide whether or not they will attend. The day falls on the fourth birthday of their son, Archie. Government advisers are putting plans in place in case Harry decides to attend the event alone in a 48-hour whirlwind trip.
Those close to the family, however, say they are braced for a reunion with the Sussexes. Any meeting is likely to be a civil affair, with trust eroded between the couple and other members of the family since the publication of the duke’s bombshell memoir Spare.
A friend said: ‘Harry revealed details of private conversations so everyone is on edge. You ask about the Sussexes and everyone immediately changes the subject. They are spitting feathers but not minded to provide any fuel for the fire.’
If the Sussexes do attend the Coronation, they will be spectators and will not form an official part of the ceremony. There is the added complication that while the Earl and Countess of Wessex are working members of the family, they have not yet been awarded a Dukedom as conversations continue as to whether they will be granted the Duke and Duchess of Edinburgh titles by the new King. It means that, as things stand, they would technically have to bow and curtsey to Harry and Meghan. But it is thought that the choreography of family members on the day will mean that they will not be put in that position publicly.
A source said: ‘From what I know of Harry and Meghan, they will both want to spend some time with their son on his birthday.’
Why are the Wessexes in it now? Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure Sophie Wessex is in a snit about everything these days, and Sophie and Edward are likely furious that more thought and consideration is being put into the Sussexes’ will-they-or-won’t-they attendance than their own. Once again, we have the Windsors going on briefing sprees and throwing preemptive tantrums about the Sussexes…and Harry and Meghan haven’t said a f–king work in more than a month. The Windsors are just going to keep making the same mistake over and over, aren’t they? The way to play it would be “of course the whole Sussex family is invited, the king would love to see his beloved son, his lovely daughter-in-law and his grandchildren again, but it’s up to them. None of this is conditional or transactional whatsoever, period, the end.” They’re too dumb and tacky to say that though.
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Wouldn’t they be expected to curtsy technically to those higher up in line with or without the DofE title? I thought for the most part nobody bothered except for curtsying/bowing to the actual monarch. I wonder if W&K insist that E&S bow down.
Right! I have only ever seen the late Queen and Philip and Charles get a curtsey or bow. The younger royals never bow to the Wales as far as i can remember.
The Wessexes aren’t going to have to bow to Harry. Harry’s higher up in the LOC but both are children of a monarch. It’s so much nonsense. Harry even wrote in the book that Meghan didn’t have to curtsy to Camilla (the then de facto princess of wales) when she stood next to Charles.
It all depends on how Charles rewrites the Order of Precedence. I could see a fight brewing between Anne and Charles if Charles tells Anne she has to curtsey to Camilla at all times. Could be why she skipped that event a few weeks ago.
That’s why Anne (and Alexandra) kept demanding QEII rewrite the rules. Being in the line of succession themselves, they refused to curtsey to Diana, Fergie, Sophie, Camilla, Kate, etc. who were married-ins. Likewise Andrew refused to have Beatrice and Eugenie curtsey to anyone who wasn’t in the line too.
I have seen people curtsy to Charles (when he was PoW) but for some reason I don’t think anyone is going to curtsy to William in public, LOL. Honestly, at this point, W&K should put it out there that they dont want anyone in the family curtsying/bowing to them, after Harry said that they expected Meghan to curtsy to them at Nott Cott. Images of Beatrice or Eugenie or Sophie curtsying to William in public would just cement the idea that W&K are formal sticks in the mud who are obsessed with protocol.
For Charles, it didn’t seem that way I think because he was older, so seeing Beatrice curtsy to her uncle seemed more about respect than protocol, you know? At least that’s how it came across in public in my opinion. Its going to be different for W&K.
For me, curtsying should be reserved for the monarch alone please, this is 2023. Can’t imagine a young man or woman demanding to be curtsied to!
People are struggling to make ends meet in the UK and Sophie’s big concern is possibly having to curtsey to Meghan?
I’m so excited about Archie’s birthday! (I meant this down below lol).
I’m so excited about Archie’s birthday, as well, perhaps in Africa where Harry first invited Meghan to get to know her?
“If the Sussexes do attend the Coronation, they will be spectators and will not form an official part of the ceremony”: Ritual of humiliation + a choreography of ostracization from their peers, yet again. Can’t the Sussexes be spectators from a home settee?
so pathetic yes @Nicki. Still whoring for a new title I see. And because they of how ineffective their “work” is, and their generating such a low interest in people, the fact that they need to reiterate that they are “working royals” to differ themselves from Harry and Meghan is so sad and desperate, but also so quite hilarious at the same time. They belong at the clown circus indeed.
Have Sophie or Ed actually said anything about H&M coming?
Nope. This is just the Daily Fail failing again.😒😒😒
The very same paper this week, revealed a Beyonce Brit ‘Exclusive’!, that even Beyonce’s normally reticent spokesperson had to dismiss as rubbish.
I don’t know why they would. Mind boggling. Were Sophie & Edward even mentioned in Spare? I’m not remembering they were.
Sophie, whose identity as Not A Duchess makes her a laughingstock pawn in Charles’ long game, is in a snit about WHAT?
Nobody cares about you one way or another, Soph. Not the RF, not H&M, and definitely not the public.
Thank you. Someone had to say it.
On the weather: hot and humid with severe storms expected by late afternoon.
The only true sentence I could find in this mess from The Mail was, “…they will both want to spend some time with their son on his birthday.”
This will be hilarious if (and likely when) The Sussexes don’t attend. Will all The Windsors continue to get in a tizzy over it or will it be outrage that they didn’t attend? They’ll be outraged no matter what Harry and Meghan do.
I think Edward and Sophie are still mad about the whole Dukedom of Edinburgh fiasco too but I would’ve thought they would be petty enough to brief against Charles, not lick his boots.
Personally I think this is them trying to get Charles to give them the DoE before the coronation. Suggesting they might have an embarrassing snit if M&H are still higher ranked than Edward.
Maybe they saw Andrew’s push in the media as a success and everyone’s decided this is the best way to publicly force Charles to do what they want because he certainly hasn’t listened to their request direct.
These people have no lives. I swear to G*d. What useless humans. Oh, what to wear, where do I get to stand, what do I get to get others to call me, and whom might I be forced to bow down to?
Nothing admirable about the bunch. Nothing aspirational about any of them. The only positive is that they all seem miserable. It’s deserved.
Interesting that the “source” opps sorry I mean “friend”, has acknowledged that it’s Archie’s birthday!
As for Sophie she should keep shtum when it comes to Meghan. We’ve all seen the pictures of her and her fellow witches doing their best to isolate Meghan.
And lets not forget that Sophie had to shut down her PR company over the fake Sheik debacle, money for access, repeating things the Royal family had said about the government and others. Calling the Queen an old dear, her partner offerd drugs to the fake Sheik so who the FK does she think SHE is, be careful Sophie, be very careful, Billy bully and botox barbie are soon going to need to provide the press with more meat to feed on, and it could be yours if you get to much attention
You’re forgetting the topless photos with a major client….
Yep she and Peggy’s wife act like as if they’re aristocrats to poor Meghan, when really, the three of them are nothing but commoners. (Even though I love Meg just saying.) Sme with camilla. Heck the only one with aristocratic blood was Diana, but of course Chuckles (instead of treating her with respect and dignity cause her family does trace back to Charles II), treated her like crap too. Heck if I went to England and saw all of them, the only ones I would curtsy to are: Princesses Eugenie and Beatrice, Harry, Meg (cause she deserves respect), and of course the minor royals. The rest gets nadda. Zilch. Zippie doodah. LOL Like it just make me wanna jump into a screen and slap the back of their heads and say “YOU’RE NOT AN ARISTOCRAT!” (ESPECIALLY to Peggy’s wife, Sophie, and Camilla.) Sorry for the long post.
Yes @Laura I’m still holding a grudge about the way Sophie looked at M…hateful, several times.
The BM and the BRF think they have control over the Sussexes.
I’m so tired of the BM scraping the bottom of the barrel for garbage about the kSussexes, repeat and rinse.
If Unable hated Meghan before, if have to off the charts now, her showing up more than twice a week and having to hug common people, it’s funny as hell.
Didn’t Sophie have a background in PR?
She really should put that into good use for her and her husband’s sake lol!
Her business failed, so she not be very good at it.
She like Unable is a copycat, spent years trying to be Diana.
Andy, read up on Sophie and the fake Sheik. That’s what happened to her PR company
Yep, even copied her hairstyle. And then claimed she hated when people compared her to Diana.
The really are so tacky and so trashy. If the “Oprah who?” Wessexes are truly worried about having to bow down to the Sussexes, then I hope they do have to😂 and I don’t even believe in bowing.
The Wessexes are using the Sussexes to bring up their Dukedom claim. That’s all this is. When they find out that the Duke of Edinburgh title will go to one of W and K’S spares, we will see this family really tear into each other. H and M can sit back in Montecito and watch the fireworks.
Yup. Too bad, Sophie. All of that mean-girling isn’t going to be rewarded. She’s such a fool. She just reeks of desperation, jealousy, and bad energy. And Edward looks almost totally out to lunch now. Don’t they have anything better to do than to put their sour grapes on display for the entire world?
The coronation is ALL about rank so it’ll be rubbing salt in the wound to attend as Earl and Countess rather than Duke and Duchess. I’m very curious to see how the whole coronet thing goes. I wonder how many new ones have been made since September.
The Wessexe’s are so thirsty and sad. They may as well have their lips fix permanently to Chuck’s ass. I also just think that Sophie is a snobby white lady racist who is jealous of Meghan.
Sophie can NEVER compare to Meghan.
For Sophie, this is tragic and confusing. Being a white royal, she *expects* to be considered as better than a biracial woman, but the ugly truth is she cannot hold a candle to the talented goddess Meghan.
Sophie and Edward can be counted on to get everything wrong every single time–no matter what they’re doing. Did you guys hear that these two are doing another Caribbean tour sometime soon? How embarrassing!
This is hilarious. Poor non-duchess Sophie is upset that she might have to curtsy to a black woman? I’m quite sure there was no curtseying going on at the Queen’s funeral judging by the open hostility Sophie was displaying to Meghan.
The reason for the existence of this crew seems so pointless. Sophie is desperate to kick the Sussexes to seem like she is above them. It’s like the 8th grade minus the pimples
All of this reads of junior high school levels of nonsense–which when you’re in junior high seems very important, but most of us grow up. This bunch never did.
“It means that, as things stand, they would technically have to bow and curtsey to Harry and Meghan.”
This is what is truly bothering Sophie, she was so rude to Meghan at the queens funeral it was hard to watch as she glared at her while standing off to the side with the other to racist witches that make up the royal coven. As for Edward I think he is another weak Windsor man child and just follows what his wife says. Rumors of his marriage being a cover for his preferred lifestyle are probably very true and he needs his “beard”.
The more they brief their rota mouthpieces in the tabloids in these constant attacks on the Sussex’s just brings every evil thing they did to the Sussex’s during the Jubbly and funeral back into the light. They are all horrible people. I don’t know what the Sussex’s will decide to do, but I wouldn’t put it past the Royal family especially Peggy and Cowmilla to pull any sort of royal protection they are offered when they are on British soil and leak their itinerary to the press. Peggy is already briefing against his toddler nephew and niece which is unforgivable. These people all have an agenda they will never be a family imo. They would bask in the grief with the help of the rota propaganda machine like they did after they caused Princess Diana’s death if something happened to the Sussex family and we all know it.
“ Peggy is already briefing against his toddler nephew and niece which is unforgivable.”
What is Peggy saying about Archie and Lillie?
How they won’t be welcome at his coronation when the time comes he will ban them from attending.
I saw the article and couldn’t believe he allowed his name to be put forward to bully two preschoolers (one of whom he’s never met). It smacked of I can’t hurt Harry so, I’ll go for his kids. It was vile and he should be bloody ashamed of himself. If ANYTHING happens to those two children I know where I’ll be putting the blame.
What was interesting is even the “derangers” knew it was bad and tried calling me out for believing that article because there wasn’t a named source! 😆 My argument is that he has form. This is the guy who gleefully allowed the world’s press to know he was snubbing a little girl’s birthday party.
It doesn’t matter. By the time Billy’s Clowning comes around — assuming the UK monarchy lasts that long — the Sussex children will be adults with careers of their own. They won’t care about being invited to their crazy train uncle’s party. But I’ll bet the RR will be filled with articles about will-they-or-won’t-they. And that’s why I want so much for H&M to stay far, FAR away from the Chubbly. Let’s not make them a part of this insanity so early in their lives. Protect your children, Harry & Meghan!
😁 – Royal Courts have historically been about gossip and drama. It’s what they need to engage in to occupy their time because there isn’t any work for the royals and royal adjacents to do. This current lot pretends to be working, they’ll still get the tax dollars so not sure why they pretend. I don’t think UK will not get rid of them. I think secretly or not so secretly people like the reality show. Maybe they might want to them to get less money from perhaps 🤔 or maybe none at all 🤔 but I think they like the entertainment.
The tabloids 🗞️ feed on the gossip, the adjacents feed on their connections and the royals feed on their importance in the drama and the masses look at the dysfunction and think they’re not that different from us but I like the way they look 🤷♀️ (the royalists). Call it the ultimate soap opera, RHOE (Royal Households Of England) reality show or the Truman show, it’s usually viciously entertaining and in the old days it was actually deadly. Lots of lives were lost from gossips within the royal courts.
We’re in the 21st century and not much has changed in how the Royals function. King Henry married his former mistress and became the head of the CoE which he created. King Charles will repeat same in 2023 (head of CoE with his former mistress now his wife). Where Royals are concerned there isn’t a bottom to the nasty pit. They can always go lower and dress it up with the pompous display of pageantry. Looking forward to more messy coverage from the tabloids (the Royals propaganda arm) as they march towards the coronation (another pompous pageant). 2+ months to go. 😔
@MSTJ 💯 💯 agree!
@MSTJ so true! (Some of us would be glad to see the back of them though!}
Sophie has always had to bow to Harry and Meghan as Harry is ahead of Edward in the succession to the throne. In fact, Edward is behind August Brookbanks, in succession to the throne.
This is incorrect. Sophie only had to bow to the Queen and her husband.
AMYB, and what really gets in her throat, along with the curtsey, is the fact that she and her useless husband STILL have to rely on handouts from the Royal family to simply exist, even down to their home. Whereas Harry, Megan and their children have a beautiful home in the sunshine and have money that spiteful Sophie can only dream of
I’ll get this out of the way first. I don’t care for Sophie’s position in society or how she uses it to belittle others. I don’t care for her attitude or personality. She came into the family and immediately used it for financial and dodgy gain. I shan’t forget the way she treated H&M at the church service.
Having said that, however, I always think Sophie looks more born to the royal life and more regal in her stern way than Kate, who looks like a very aged school girl and without gravitas of any kind. And I think she was genuinely upset when the queen died; whereas Kate seemed to breathe a huge sigh of relief that her embryonic work ethic wasn’t being monitored any longer.
Agree with both points Sparrow. Funny how the first point seems to never be mentioned anymore and the church attitude won’t be forgotten. To the second, Sophie and Edward work. I don’t care what their motivation is, they are out there working. It doesn’t make many headlines more like ‘oh and the Wessexes were over there’… but over there they are. So yeah Sophie seems to get her royal role better than Duchess Kate.
Run along now, Sofiesta! Go pick out your curtains and bedspread to make your new frock for the Chubbly.😄
This seems like the Wessexes are using the tabloids to pressure KC to give them the DoE titles before the Chubbly.
I’ve said this before….Meghan’s posture in that last photo (with Sophie) is just impeccable. #goals
I’m with those who think this is about Edward and Sophie wanting their DoE titles before the Chubbly. The title doesn’t dictate whether H&M have to curtsy to whether E&S are supposed to bow/curtsy to H&M etc. they want to attend the Chubbly as a duke and duchess and this is the latest attack plan to get that.
I’m not a fan of Edward and Sophie or anything, but I do think withholding the Duke of Edinburgh title is a really mean and petty move on Charles’ part. It was their father’s and Liz and Phil wanted Edward to have it. Chuck should just give it to him to honor his parents’ wishes if for no other reason. He’s such a prick.
Agreed, it really wasn’t his decision to make but he’s such a petty prick
So is not acknowledging that Archie and Lilibet became Prince and Princess upon the death of the Queen. I can’t imagine anyone pettier or more evil than Charles is not acknowledging your own grandchildren’s birthright because they are biracial. I could care less about two petty adults whining and crying because being an Earl and whatever she is isn’t enough. He is still a Prince and His mother could have made him a Duke of something at anytime she wanted, but she didn’t for whatever reason.
After the queens jubbly and funeral, I don’t think the Sussexes would agree to being publicly snubbed. Harry is the king’s son and should expect to be treated as such. I think he and Meghan, wearing a royal tiara, should be on the balcony. And yes, Sophie does have to curtsy. Meghan deserves to be shown respect by the entire family. Upchuck should have handled all of this, and his wife planting these stories, last year.
If they don’t want to be publicly snubbed, then they won’t attend the coronation in the first place.
Gee, you sound nice.
@Lizzie — UPCHUCK! Love it! Mind if I steal it?
I’m reminded of a joke that circulated around the time of Upchuck and Diana’s wedding: “Drink up Chuck and Di!”
So, I have it on EXCELLENT authority that there have been many missives sent from “the Palace” to Montecito, imposing more and more “terms” on the Sussexes (every reply, as I understand it, has been “sure, no problem”). One of the things that was to be made clear to Meghan was that she would NOT have access to any of the jewels/tiaras, etc. She replied that was fine, never expected anything, etc. My great hope is that Charles Spencer plonks the Spencer Tiara on Meghan!
The Windsors and hangers-on have nothing to do but sit around and think of ways to punish the Sussexes in ways that they, themselves would find insulting — tiaras, titles, teas, seating plans–and are getting increasingly upset about the Sussexes not caring about any of those things, because, really, they’re so not important.
Harry and Meghan, the Duke and Duchess of Unbothered.
@friend, I don’t doubt this for a moment nor Chuckles not understanding that Meghan being the only female senior Royal not wearing a tiara would make him look petty as sh**.
I found this article puzzling. Are we sure this is from Sophie & Ed? Harry didn’t say anything about them in the book. Sophie was pretty clear what she thinks of Meghan as she displayed that during QE2’s funeral.
Is this just another article to show that another member of the family doesn’t want the Sussexes to go to the Cubbly or Clowning? If the Title wasn’t mentioned, I almost wonder if this is the Queen-Escort who is behind this. It just doesn’t make much sense to me.
This reminds me… in Spare, Harry talked about when he prepped Meghan for meeting Charles and Camilla, her told Meghan to curtsy to Charles, and give him a kiss on the cheek only if Charles leaned in. As for Camilla, he told Meghan not to curtsy. And Meghan asked him if he was sure – no curtsy? And he said no – he didn’t think it necessary.
I was expecting Harry to late write something about how that offended Camilla, or started them on the wrong foot, but nothing ever came of it. Does anyone have any thoughts on why he made a point of mentioning no curtsy for Camilla?
@Jazz Hands: My best guest is that because Harry knew from experience who & what Cowmilla was (based on her low morals, desperation, and behaviour towards him and his mother) that she was always going to act against him and Meghan. It is just who Seabiscuit is. So better for Meghan to enter the relationship from the start without bowing & scraping to that heifer. Which was good advice from Harry.
The part about the Wessexes having to bow and curtsey to Harry and Meghan is incorrect. HRHs don’t bow and curtsey to each other only to the King and Queen Consort. If anything the Wessexes are upset that they now have to bow to Charles and Camilla.
Then Why did Meghan curtsey to Charles when he was Prince of Wales?
I dunno Madonna you figure it out for the rest of us lol🤷♀️
I think the fact that sophie has to bow to a black woman because this black woman despite how hard they all try in still married to he 5th in line is killing her . Her racist ass can’t be seen bowing to a black Woman and I absolutely love this for them. Stay mad because Meghan stay’s winning
At the heart of this excruciatingly boring subject of ‘ Will they or wouldn’t they attend’ is the matter of family estrangement exasperated by vanity.
The Wessexes are called in to share the eventually blame, as they still probably are hoping for a dukedom.
That would only occur if Camilla has moved pass Prince Philip’s disapproval of the adulterous affair she’s had with her now husband.
King Charles has refused to relinquish anything that his father bequeathed to his grandson and sons.
Why??
He is aware that his father had to relinquish any former titles he had in order to marry his mother.
She, Queen Elizabeth II bestowed titles etc to her husband, who thought that the were his to give to whomsoever he chose.
Not so.
Every one Harry, Andrew, and Edward got nothing, nada. Andrew got double when he lost his position to whom?( Beatrice was announced as a patron one day, the next day there were two negative articles about her in the fail. New scapegoat??)
Did Camilla attended to Eugenie’s wedding?
A retired senior editor of the sun, allegedly claimed that she called him for ten years on a daily basis.
Talk about commitment, focused long term strategy with laser like and tunnel vision for vengeance as a result.
This is a plausible explanation for ultimately the destructive use for dysfunctional leaking to a petty and immoral media machine.
Pay attention to the subtle, shifting patterns.
This latest batch of articles, cast a negative spotlight on King and heir, why not bring in someone else entirely?
If so, what about the Wessexes?? Keep dangling the dukedom. Sophie will give it her best, remember the Commonwealth service?? Her rudeness was exquisite.
It would be easier to …….
Since this latest need for attention, spotlight, and limelight is not based on fear, but ncredibly vanity of the four senior royals.
The owner(s)¿ of the institution does not want to share the limelight.
The media would rather the Sussexes attendance in order to boost ratings but in any eventuality, will produce copiously badly written articles in either scenario.
It will be based entirely on finger pointing.
Guess who wants to look tough, but require a scapegoat???
When will there be another chapter in this dime store novel??
For the present, the theme remains as family estrangement.
They are so bad about this. Every time they whine about Harry divulging details of private conversations they confirm that what he said is true. They are Streisand-Effecting themselves yet again.
I wish I could think which Disney villain sophie reminds me of . I just know if Thunder and a demonic being had a child, it would be sophie .
The only thing is Disney villains are actually interesting and that’s why you can’t think of one that fits Sophie.
I think Sophie was what Meghan saw when she looked years into the future. When Wms children become adults, they are the new “working royals”. Every one else takes an unpaid non working royal status. Sophie and Edward go into their 60s unemployed and with no income stream and no way to make money. Sophie is in survival mode now. She is in charge of her family’s future because Edward has not planned ahead for this and has his head stuck in quicksand. She sees the future with more clarity now that the DOE title is being withheld. She looks at H and M and sees them financially stable and independent and is bitter and jealous. She is on the wrong side of history and sees no way out.
Sophie and Zara have really been desperate for press. Zara is ckinging to anyone. I assume Anne thought he children would be smart officeworkers but hindsight idea 20/20 and she should’ve took the royal titles when offered.
Chuck isn’t giving anyone a title unless they earn it. It’s obvious he is using titles for leverage. Brother Edward has been making more low profile appearances and we can assume he doesn’t want to. Chuck isn’t making him Duke of Edinburgh just because his dad asked. I find it funny. Sophia will be Kate’s minder for awhile.
The words “as it stands” makes no sense. Edward/Sophie will ALWAYS be below Harry/Meghan in precedence, unless Charles changes that somehow. Currently, getting a dukedom would have no effect on Edward’s place below Harry. First, assuming we are looking at their place within the royal family, the second son of the current monarch would “out-rank” the third son of a former monarch (again, Charles may change that, but he hasn’t done so yet). Second, if you are looking at peerages, dukes tend to be ranked by category (peerage of England, then peerage of Scotland, etc.) and within each category, by date of creation. Since the title Duke of Edinburgh merged with the crown when Elizabeth died, it doesn’t currently exist. Charles would have to recreate the title and bestow it on Edward — but that means it would be more recent in time than Harry’s title, and thus Harry would still “out rank” Edward in peerage status.
The only way getting the Duke of Edinburgh title would help Edward would be to give his SON some level of precedence over others. Currently, his son is not royal (despite Sophie’s desperate claims that he can “choose” to be royal when he turns 18), and although Charles can choose to make James royal, he hasn’t done so yet. So all James will be one day, is an earl — but earls are “middling” when it comes to peers. As a non-royal, James will be below all the “HRH” members of the royal family; and as a peer, he will be below dukes and marquesses, and also below earls whose family titles pre-date Edward’s title (any earldom that existed before 1999).
I wonder though, if they are implying that being made Duke of Edinburgh will somehow put Ed/Sophie above Harry/Meghan, even if that is not true, in an attempt to appeal to the racists and haters, to get them to side with Ed/Sophie?
Mrs.Krabapple, does anyone side with Ed/Sophie? I’m not being sarcastic, I really want to know how people feel about them.
I am surprised Sophie’s PR background didn’t enable her to see the benefits of riding the fence with the Sussexes. Imagine all the “peacemaker” headlines they could have received. The older generation helping the younger generation stay connected despite their differences.
Other than that I can’t see why the Sussexes would bother putting themselves through that again. The funeral circus was draining. Sure, they were stuck there for 10 days and the emotional toll of losing his beloved grandma but the other stuff took such a toll too. Why go to just be purposely frozen out? Why go to have to face Camilla, friend of Clarkson and Morgan. No f**king way.
No curtseys for anyone. I didn’t mind it for the late Queen because she did her duty at least. And she served for her entire life. But no more. Meghan should cutesy to no one. She is an American and doesn’t have to deal with that anymore. And what are they going to do? Kick her out of the country?
And I get so confused at all their last names.