Tom Bower is a nasty old fart and a “royal biographer.” He regularly appears on TV shows as a royal commentator, giving us gems like the accidentally truthful admission that the Sussexit “destabilized the monarchy,” and that he’s openly targeting the Duchess of Sussex no matter what. Bower always has crazy sh-t to say about Meghan and Harry in particular, and the royalist/Deranger fans lap it up and spread his crap all around. Well, those royalist fans are kind of mad this week, because Bower credited the Princess of Wales for being the reason why Meghan isn’t going to the coronation. It’s like Bower flew too close to the Deranger Sun – he made Kate sound like a miserable racist obsessed with punishing her sister-in-law. AND I OOP-
The Princess of Wales “prevented” Meghan Markle from attending King Charles III’s Coronation, according to royal biographer Tom Bower.
Royal biographer Tom Bower hinted on GB News that this was not Meghan’s desire, and she was in fact prevented from attending by Kate Middleton. Speaking to Nigel Farage, he said: “I think it’s an ugly compromise. We must all be grateful that Kate in the end prevented Meghan from coming, saying she ‘wouldn’t have her there under any circumstances’. She said that if she does come, she will have to sit at the back.”
“I do think that for the Royal Family, Harry’s presence is constitutionally important. If, God forbid, the Cambridges all died, we’d have King Harry on the throne after Charles, so he’s got to be there.”
I mean… I have no doubt that Kate would have “prevented” Meghan from coming if Kate had any power. I have no doubt that Kate wants to create an all-white seating chart at the front of the coronation. But the truth is, Kate has no power for any of that – she can’t even stop her rural rival and William’s long-rumored side chick from attending the coronation. Regarding Meghan in particular, Kate would have been screwed either way – if Meghan had come, she would have effortlessly pulled focus and been the center of attention. Now that Meghan’s not coming, Kate won’t have new entries in her Meghan lookbook and there will be more focus on… Rose. Where is Rose sitting, what is Rose wearing, is Rose’s tiara bigger than Kate’s? I love that for Kate.
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Kate has no power. She is clinging to her marriage. If will wants someone else and wants to marry her Kate will be out. Camilla also can’t stand kate.kate is a mean girl.
Pffff to think the kkkhate prevented her from coming is so pretentious. Gurl just didnt wish her there. Who doesn’t know she has no power and no respect from her husband or in-laws? Meghan is the influencer. Meghan made kate work, meghan made kate wear pants, meghan made kate wear burgundy like other mean girls in the family, meghan made kate wear blue to match camilla. Imagine being that powerful without saying a word.
Sorry @princessofwaffles but I disagree with one of you points: Nobody makes Kate work! That’s her only power!
So the message I’m seeing from the media so far in UK:
-Chucky has given Bride of Chucky an active role with wide latitude with regard to the planning of this Royal Fyre Festival
-The Con-A-Nation is going tits up before it’s even begun
-Bride of Chucky is now panicking and actively briefing on the Sussexes AND the Waleses to take the heat off herself
Oh honey, we ALL see you. You’re a mess, your victory lap will be a mess, your “reign” will be a mess and Diana is laughing at you both from her cocktail lounge in Heaven.
Royal Fyre Festival!!! I’m dying, that’s perfect.
Kate couldn’t get herself to the Diana statue reveal or on the plane to Balmoral as the queen was dying! To think Kate has this kind of power is laughable.
Kate can’t prevent her child from smacking her in the face she had no input in this stupid Chibbly.
WanK need to be worried at how much Camilla is overshadowing everything. This is all about the sidepiece and her power grab.
There are people who make up stories, put words in other people’s mouths, hoping to sell their book, hoping the public will believe them.
On the other hand there are people slamming the BRF, calling it all kinds of ugly names, with worthless members, etc etc, yet they’re obsessed with this family, making up all kinds of stories…….
If, if, if.,,,, You’re a member of the iffing group.
If your grandma had wheels, she’d be an omnibus.
@FIRST COMMENT lol you’re absolutely right!
She should use her powers to see off Rose.
Rose and all of William’s other side pieces aren’t going anywhere.
So it’s Charles’ coronation and Kate is making demands? When H&M were supposedly making demands it was awful, but Kate is in charge? Makes old KC look like quite the monarch.
Camilla will be keeping kate in her place even more after the con a nation. Karma for Kate
@Tessa. I’m actually looking forward to King Camilla and her reign of terror over the Windsors.
This is especially interesting as we’ve been getting stories of late about how involved Cams is in the coronation planning AND the restructuring of the household staff etc.. Cams is running the show, NOT kHate and stories like this will not go down well with Cams.
There is a PR war brewing between the Middletons and Cams, I think we all now who will come out on top – clue it ain’t Ma Mids.
“stories like this will not go down well with Cams”
Bold of you to assume this isn’t coming from Cams. This is not Kate’s PR, imo, but Cam and the palace throwing Kate under the bus.
I’m torn between DU and Rapunzel, I think both points have merit. IF this is not coming from Camilla, its not going to go over well because it makes Kate look like she has more power than she actually has. And if this is coming from Camilla, Kate is not going to be happy because this makes her look really really bad.
The black duchess was going to have to sit in the back?? Seriously? Is this the 1950s???
ETA the more I think about it the more torn I am, lol. I can see Kate wanting it out there that she has so much power and not realizing how bad this makes her look. I can also see this being a way for C&C to make sure someone besides them gets the blame for Meghan’s nonattendance.
Its very possible that it did come from Cams but I dunno – kHate has been desperate to show that she has some power/influence now that she has her precious Princess of Wails title. Status is very very very important to her and she (and Ma) think she has power even thou we all know she doesn’t.
Her rabid racist Meghan hating fanbase will eat up a story like this and thats basically who she and Peggy have been pandering to.
I think Bower is just doing his own racist thing, as he did with the book. It’s amazing how all the derangers who pretended his book was the full truth suddenly don’t like his comments about Kate. That’s the thing with racists, they also are misogynists.
That said the party line of kate behind Meghan not attending is something that came recently and as such I think it’s coming from camp Middleton. In one of the recent articles there was reference to only a very tight circle of courtiers being aware of the discussions with Charles and the Sussexes and being afraid that anything would leak. Which means Charles and Camilla knew what was going on, but KP was kept out. Kate trying to pretend that she has any involvement is delusion, so that’s not coming from Camilla.
The walkabout story that made Kate look like a spoiled child? Yes that was from Camilla. And that story went viral.
@Nic919 ooooh I hadn’t heard that part about the tight circle of courtiers. That’s very interesting. That does make me think this is from Kate because its an attempt to make her look like she has more power/influence than she actually has. She couldn’t even ice out her husband’s mistress, no way could she block meghan from coming to the coronation.
William has one good weapon in his arsenal: his late mother.
All he has to do is keep the drumbeat going about how his wretched father’s mistress fixation led his mother being ousted and thrown out to fend for herself in a dangerous world. Keep comparing the old boot to his beautiful, defenseless mother.
William doesn’t care that both his parents cheated. He cheated with Kate, he’s cheated on her for 20 years. Wm has no problem with Camilla, she’s paving the way for his Wife #2 to be accepted as Queen (Consort) too.
Kate wished for it. I don’t think Charles likes her. But very soon Charles and camila would regret they must have supportrd meghan than this waity. Wales are unless family. Because I checked waity’s engagements after queen’s death, 10 per month but excluding those early childhood meeting lies, it came down to 7/8 per month. But mostly they are 5 minutes phone calls to maximum 3 hours visit. Almost she works not even 25% of working days. Meghan and Harry are huge loss to BRF. And lately this baby brain is cosplaying QEII. Her dress colours are bright like QE. The most embarrassing women in a royal family.
KKKate’s been cosplaying Early Reign QE2, and Bride of Chucky has been cosplaying Late Reign QE2.
Props to their stylists though – gotta be hard as hell to wrangle a viper into a sleeved dress.
And Bowers look like an even bigger idiot than he is, if that’s possible.
Nigel and tom are so racist the way they talk about Meghan sitting in the back placed there by karen kate.
Right. Seat her in the back of the bus. Racists happy to parade around without hoods, holding fast to segregation. White rule on display here. And it’s inept, incompetent, and genetically ugly.
No kidding! “If she did come, she would have to sit in the back.” But no, the family are absolute not racist, right Willy?
Unless you’re a racist there’s no reason to say “she would have to sit in the back,” because it isn’t true. H&M are Duke and Duchess and in line for the throne. It’s not protocol to seat them in the back
Word.
Sure like Can’t has any power. It’s Cowmilla that wears the kings crown and does the reigning. The isle would hate Meg if she came and they are hating her for not coming. It will always be this way.
Tell us you’re a miserable, insecure racist without telling us you’re miserable, insecure, and racist.
Exactly this! Are they not realizing how bad this makes them sound?
Yeah, Kate would need power to be able to prevent MM from going. Meghan chose not to go on her own. But I love how the derangers are screaming that Bowers can’t be trusted, that Kate would never do or say anything like this… they are so upset at how it makes Kate look bad. When it was Meghan being painted badly he was 100% the truth teller but now? Oh noes.
Yes, despite written receipts proving a lot of his book was false, even from other royal sources, they wanted to believe this man and all his bitter racist diatribes. So they have now given a platform that he would have had had they just ignored him.
When you put it that way, it’s delicious!
I don’t know the full history of civil rights in G.B., but “sit at the back” is…beyond bad. And probably accurate for Kate.
You can’t extrapolate AmerIcan racial history to other countries. While racism certain existed and still does exist in the UK, legal segregation did not. The British generally resisted efforts by the American army to impose segregation and even the racist Winston Churchill ordered that the British not help Americans impose it. The American concept of “back of the bus” wouldn’t really have any meaning for many Brits. I remember someone criticizing Kate for wearing a Gone With the Wind style dress and not recognizing that in the UK it would just be Victorian.
Vivian Leigh was British and won an Oscar for that role so if kate was unaware that Gone With the Wind is a movie glorifying the old south, then the ignorance is her fault. That green dress is a famous scene across the english speaking world.
Also let’s talk to the Windrush people as to whether or not they were segregated when they moved to the Uk. It may not have been official Jim Crow laws, but there was rampant discrimination there as well. And let’s not forget the rules where Catholics and Jews could not get certain positions in government because of their religion.
I’m not saying there’s no racism or segregation but it wasn’t ever codified like it was in the US. Black soldiers from the US felt well treated by the British in comparison to how they were treated at home.
Saying a certain style of dress that appeared in an American movie implies tolerance for the old south and slavery and to ignore that it has a different historical associations in another country is culturally insensitive even If the actress who wore it 85 years ago was British.
Maybe you haven’t ever lived overseas but I’ve lived in 4 countries and they all have their own history and culture and you can’t judge them for not seeing things your way. We all have different filters and you can’t impose yours on others.
Near where I live in the north of England, white GIs complained about black GIs using the same pubs as them, and demanded the pubs enforce a colour bar. The pubs all responded by putting up signs saying “Black GIs only”.
Most Britons during ww2 had no issue with skin colour. Attitudes to blacks changed when the windrush people started arriving because unlike the GIs they were here to live permanently. Most racism in UK is rooted in anti -immigration feeling rather than anti-different-skin colour prejudice. Hence Irish were treated the same as blacks in the 50s and now white Polish immigrants receive as much hostility as immigrants of different races. I know that’s not ok, just pointing out how it was/is.
Even immigrants can be anti-immigrant. My neighbour is Maltese and has been living in Britain about 50 years. She said the other day the problem with Britain now is there are too many foreigners.
The “sit at the back” is practically the definition of a dog-whistle, and the people defending it are eye-opening.
IF it was anyone other than Meghan, there might – MIGHT – be some plausible deniability there. But Meghan is American; segregation directly affected her ancestors – it likely directly affected her mother. And TPTB / RR absolutely know about it, know it was a thing in America – even if it wasn’t in the UK – and still not only deliberately planned on it, they deliberately put this out there in the media.
So, yes, in this instance – for a Black American woman who has an important place in the royal family – people can and should extrapolate American racial history to the UK. It absolutely IS racial, despite some people’s desperate attempt to hand wave it away.
If it was Kate saying it, she may well not know about bus segregation in America. She’s not knowledgable or intellectually curious, even about her own country’s history.
You don’t have to be American (and I am not) to be aware of the American cultural monolith in the English speaking world, which includes England, especially in the post war era. Gone with the Wind is a well known movie for people Kate’s age and up. It is culturally referenced all over. Vivian Leigh was married to Laurence Olivier and last I checked there are theatre awards named after him in the UK to this day. So if we want to say that kate is an ignorant woman and that’s your excuse, then sure, that’s credible, but going as a diplomat to the Caribbean requires some cultural sensitivity which clearly Kate does not have. The colonizer jeep ride was another example of her ignorant and colonizer mindset.
There wasn’t a ‘back of the bus’ segregation thing here in the UK, but I think many boarding houses in the post-war period had signs saying ‘NO BLACKS, NO IRISH, NO DOGS’.
People of lower status sitting at the back of buses, isn’t something we’ve ever had in Britain. The front of the bus isn’t seen as any superior, or as any different, to any other part of the bus. Except Children on my school bus used to fight to sit on the very back seat as it was bigger/more comfortable and you could sit together with more friends.
Sitting at the back of the church is for less “important” people at weddings or funerals, less close family members. So it’s relegating Meghan as less important but it’s not racial.
That’s a big load of nonsense. Rosa Parks was a known figure well beyond the United States and telling someone to sit in the back when that woman is mixed race is pretty damn racist.
I agree with Nic919. It’s almost comical the way many Brits try to deny racism in the UK. It’s almost insulting how they pretend that her race has nothing to do with the vitriol they have for Meghan.
Lemme break it down:
This gorgeous, intelligent, talented, hardworking biracial American is hounded and loathed and lied about for years – with “Straight Outta Compton” headlines and racially tinged accusations of sexual tricks and other insults including the portrayal of Prince Archie as a chimpanzee. How dare she marry the fair Prince of the Realm?!? How dare she bear him children? Charles announced she’s not “family”, she’s told that her children will never get titles, and when she and Harry moved away, Charles pulled their security and leaked their location. And to top it off, neither Meghan or her children were invited to the #CaucasianCoronation.
But yeah, tell us again how this has nothing to do with race.
The only people buying this fuckery are the sycophants. The rest of the world knows racism and bigotry when they see it. But hey, keep on pretending that none of this is racist.
WTF with all of the excuses on this thread for Kate’s blatant racism, which we’ve seen on display for years even before Meghan came along? Kate/Carol(E) knew exactly what it means to say Meghan should be at the back (of the bus). As does Kate’s racist stan base.
I look forward to the defence of having a choice of hundreds of royal collection paintings and deciding to have the one called the Negro Page in your living room, and keeping it there when the first black US president comes for a visit.
There are way too many examples of racist behaviour from them. And there is video showing Kate pull away from Obama as he walks toward her. So yeah she has a problem.
Oh, well, if Nigel Farage says it, then it must be so! 😒😒
Kate is running far from that story……..
She has a campaign to run and a marriage to save.
It seems like the biblical ‘ digging of the pit’.
The ‘Please 💘 me’ is indeterminate, the last thing she wants is to openly attack Meghan.
She is desperate for Meghan the distraction versus Kate the Saint, alas that was never real.
Is there any difference between the British Royal Family and the Kardashians?
The Kardashian’s are better looking, more interesting and earn their own money.
This – I REALLY dislike them too, but they are still superior to the BRF.
The Kardashians are a close knit family at least.
The Kardashians aren’t sponging off the taxpayers.
Yes, Rob Kardashian hasn’t moved to Montecito yet
The Kardashians are hardworking, far moe attractive, and they earn their own money. They come across as a family who cares and is involved with each other. Plus, they have way more class than the Royals.
There’s a guy on TikTok who compares the Royal Family to a trashy soap and it’s perfect and hilarious. He’s in the process of editing Spare and is going to reread it in the tone of someone from the trailer park and I’m here for it.
Dear Kate,
That sound you hear is the bus backing up to run over you. The Rottweiler is barking from within the castle, and she don’t like competing with younger, prettier women. Watch out for dog bites.
Signed,
Everyone with a brain who knows this is Camilla’s doing and she’s either the real one who prevented Meg coming or making stuff up to bury Katie Keen.
IMO neither Space nor Cowmilla prevented Meghan from attending. Meghan didn’t want to come. Point blank period, the end.
i think Kate initially hated Rose, but now has allowed it so the rumors aren’t flamed more. bc if she blocked out Rose or did anything that made it seemed like Rose was her mortal enemy, then that’s confirmation she’s william’s mistress. I think in the beginning she tried to play court games with her and alienate her, but someone higher up (William? Rose’s husband? Charles?) squashed that and she’s had to swallow the bitter pill and carry on. and while she doesn’t like it, she knows these moves to put the king and queen of the turnip toffs closer to the monarchy are needed. probs bc they have something on Charles or the Cambridges honestly. she didn’t not want Meghan there bc she’s biracial…she didn’t want her there bc it would pull attention from her.
Kate has no power in terms of Rose, her opinion does not count nor required.
🌹 is considered more accomplished and in tune with the aristocratic lifestyle, she understand the role that mistresses play, Harry did not. That’s is one of the reasons he’s out.
Kate staying is contingent of 🌹 not wanting to be future queen.
Kate disappeared for about 2 months starting in April 2019 and she did not resurface until the Queen gave her the Victorian order bauble. So she was not okay with the Rose story and talk of affair. She still isn’t okay but she has transferred her anger toward Meghan because she can’t do a thing with the Rose situation.
Prior to the affair story coming out kate used to give William adoring looks. Those went away in late 2019 and the pigeon flinch also happened around then.
There was some effort post pandemic, but the iciness between them in the public sphere really can be traced to once the rose story is leaked.
I think this is bang on. She has also been noticeably wasting away, alarmingly so, since then.
Kate hasn’t allowed anything, she has no power over these decisions. Her marriage is on a knife-edge and she knows Willnot can dump her anytime he wants. Once this coronation frippery is over, mark my words there’s going to be a nasty cold war between the Middletons and BP that will end badly for Khate. You do not want Camzilla as an enemy. KC3 now has Rose’s husband David by his side as Lord in Waiting and Private Secretary so Khate must be seething. Allegiances like that ensure Rose stays in the royal fold, whether or not she’s still Willnot’s mistress.
The Coronation Obligation should be the last hurdle Burger King has to endure before he can start Operation We’ve Grown Apart Please Respect Our Privacy We Will Still Be Friends and Co-Parents. If it’s true that Burger King wanted to move on from Kate but Sussexit prevented him, then the Queen’s dying prevented him, then with the Coronation over and done with it feels like Willy will have his long-awaited all clear. Plopping Rose’s son into the coronation ceremony feels like Cams and Charles are helping Willy by giving Rose a platform to be introduced to the WORLD as a respected member of the aristocracy and one of their close royal inner circle, highly suited and maybe even a better choice for a matured Willy after all than work-shy, unable to cope with the pressure, uni-friend that lasted too long Kate.
It looks like Charles/Camilla/William united against Kate and the Middletons.
IDK if Rose will be William’s second wife, but by forging this alliance, he’s showing he wants Kate/Midds set aside and a second wife (whomever she is) raised up.
I’m sure she would prevent M from coming if she had any power but Rose seems to be a bigger problem for Kate than Meg…is it me or is she lowkey getting a public rollout?
That is exactly what I read on another thread that Rose is being slowly camillafied and Kate has bigger issues than her sister in law. Perhaps because she can’t touch Rose her frustrations need to be vented elsewhere.
Yes she is, to the delight of many.
You betcha! https://www.thelist.com/1227892/a-look-at-rose-hanbury-through-the-years/
Now that was interesting, not the least of which because it was posted in the ‘royals’ section.
In some ways, Meghan being there might have distracted from Rose’s presence. But that ship has sailed. Why do I feel like we’re going to see pics of Camilla greeting and hugging Rose soon? Either at the coronation or some other event. That would be something.
If baby brain had not had a hand in running her off, MEG would of had her back!
I can’t tell if the Rose rollout is coming from KP or if its just the press yanking William’s chain. Like tatler has posted several things on twitter about Rose Hanbury and “who is she” and that kind of thing…..Tatler knows what its doing. They’re choosing violence for a reason.
Tatler has posted so many articles “introducing” us to the Chumley family. It’s hilarious.
Also there is a photo of Rose and her sons in the List article and one of them looks like David.
Yeah, I mean, it looks sketchy.
Her husband being appointed Lord-In-Waiting, these articles with surprising backlash for Kate, all the “introducing Rose and her family!!” articles.
Doesn’t add up to the rosiest picture, lol.
This was an excellent read this afternoon. Thank you. I do have to say, that if this is true (and for sure I do agree Rose has been getting quite some debutante media attention) Kate is screwed because I do not think the populace loves and adores her like they did Diana. WIlls is vicious and cunning enough to already have made that connection – Kate can be thrown away and whoever takes her place will not face the same backlash that Cams does. I wonder if Ma Middleton has taken note.
A strong part of me thinks rose or David are planting these stories. They want rose to be seen as “a force”. Instead of a party girl. It’s just the way this has been rolled out. Its not like the normal mistress thing.
I’m always amazed that there is no outrage that she is their future queen. I have to remind myself that there is a difference between queen and First Lady and realize that my expectations are too high. I remember seeing that she was the woman Will chose and thought bland on the surface but maybe there was more that I wasn’t aware of since I didn’t care about the royals outside of Diana and Harry because of their work helping others. I honestly went on with my life and thought nothing of her since Meghan arrived and have realized she was worst than I realized and in my opinion a huge instigator in all of this. I don’t think she has the power that want her desperately to have. Meghan not being there is Meghan knowing her worth and has nothing to do with Kate’s jealous, vindictive and incompetent behind.
Kate is lazy and a mean girl. Her fans say will chose well. I think will settled and he was rejected by other women
kHate was quite literally the only one who’d marry him – she was last gf standing. In fact I would question if she was actually his gf, more like go to girl when he was in between chasing after the girls he was actually interested in.
William himself referred to Kate as ‘sex waiting’ which sums up what he thought her role was for 10 years.
It’s not Kate fans who say Will chose well it’s paid PR astroturfers. It’s One of the lines they’re paid to repeat along with she’s classy and never puts a foot wrong.
Kate doesn’t have fans in Britain and never did. She had fans in America who didn’t know her or her history before the wedding, but I don’t think she still does.
William told people she was a trusted bed partner but he’d never considered her marriage material. They were friends with benefits for a long time.
The Middletons claimed they made a pact to marry, after they got back together. That William told her she was the one and he would definitely marry her, but he wasn’t ready to marry, and asked her to wait for him.
But I read an old article recently that said the pact was actually “if we’re not married by the time we’re 40, why don’t we marry each other”. Which is very different. Then again the newspapers lie, so both versions could be wrong.
I’m going to defend Kate here. Who is William to talk down on someone. I understand not having respect for her because she only wanted the title but most of Williams other women haven’t been better. William can’t pull an “Ivana trump”. If I may go back in time. Ivana used trumps name to really build that empire. None of Williams women can take an empty building and turn it into something. To call her sex waiting is terrible but she was the only one who wanted the role.
Charles had a few women who would entertain him.
The women that rejected will had gumption. Kate has no excuses for the way she treated meghan.
Kate made her own choices, she’s no victim.
She chose to chase a man who didn’t want to marry her for a decade. Slept with multiple of his friends to be ‘approved’ to bed the royal prince. Slept with him behind his girlfriend’s back for months. Agreed to be his ‘sex waiting’ for a decade while he pursued women he wanted to marry.
None of Kate’s choices are William’s responsibility. This is the way Kate chose to be treated because she wanted her shot at power, wealth, and titles.
Kate has a choice to stop chasing him when he kept showing her disrespect. Almost two decades later and she’s still sticking around.
Are we talking about Kate, the Princess of Wales? Catherine Middleton? She’s of no consequence or importance. A leaf blown by the wind.
The Royal Rota truly inspires meanness in me.
KKKHate is nothing more than another married in. js
Nothing like saying the quiet part out loud: “If she does come, she’ll have to sit at the back.” Of the bus presumably.
Wow they’re really going for Kate. It looks as if Charles realises how bad it looks that Meghan doesn’t want to attend, and piling the blame all onto Kate. Kate might not wanted Meghan there but, I doubt if she wanted it to be as public as this. Kate and/or her mother hide behind “unnamed” sources. This article is Charles (and Camilla) throwing Kate under the bus. Shame, it couldn’t happen to a nicer person! 😆
Or William because he wants more excuses to sideline Kate. Blaming Harry’s departure on Kate helps Wm get rid of Kate and the Midds.
I’m beginning to think William married Kate because she looked pretty in her dress and she wanted to job. I hope it’s some love there but I don’t know.
I think he married her
1) because he couldn’t handle the pressure from the tabloids when they critiqued him for not marrying her
2) he was emotionally manipulated by Carol(E) for a decade
3) he wanted to stick it to his family by marrying the worst possible choice in Kate. He wanted someone who would embarrass the Windsors. Now that he’s seen Harry marry a brilliant woman for love, Wm’s resentment at his own choices are tearing him apart.
Love doesn’t figure in to this business arrangement, either on his side or on hers. She wouldn’t have done any of this if he was Billy the Plumber. She wanted The Prince and would do anything, even put up with William, to get a royal life.
@ sugar. You are probably right. Yes will is lazy but he probably married kate to stick it to everyone. Like “heres your princess, you wont have to worry about opinions here”.
Like I said Kate is grinning like the Grinch. The spotlight is on her Camilla and Charlotte. This also helps Kate cause when Meg stepped out for the jubilee in that gorgeous Dior coat dress ensemble. Even Kate had to give props with her cheap version of it the next day at the concert and she STILL wasn’t talked about.
At the funeral Kate pulled out the jewels and Meg bested her in nothing but a cape dress and gloves. Kate got her cape when she did that awful cape rhinestone dress with shoulder pads so high she looked like a linebacker but she had her 👑.
And she finally had her gloves 🧤🤣 moment at the bafta where even Will couldn’t hide the disdain and the rota couldn’t 🤥 lie enough to save that outfit.
So she’ll have the spotlight all to herself but Meg gets two awards in May so be on the lookout for the cheap versions of her outfits from the future queen 😉 of the 🏝️
Will settled for Kate.
Kate needs to worry about the rising interest in Rose Hanbury, lol. Kate ain’t got no such power and Tom Bower, forever salty that Meghan didn’t give him the attention he craved with that stupid book, is making Kate look worse. I don’t understand the royals. Why do they want people like Dan Wooton, Tom Bower, Piers Morgan and crackpots associated with them?
What is interesting to watch is how the world Is moving right along and the Farage and Bowers are being left behind with their racist tropes. Try as they might the few who enjoys their rants are racist as well, longing for a world that truly never existed. it truly must be embarrassing having these sort of folks speaking on your behalf. Farage came to the US doing Trump’s era and was summarily dismissed back to the UK because he just does not resonant even with the extreme gutter thrash in the US.
I got no love for Kate. But common sense tells me Kate has absolutely zero influence on the guest list. Firstly it’s a State event, not a private party. And I’m sure that there’s someone like the Lord Chamberlain or some aristo with a fancy title that determines the guest list. There is zero chance Kate has any say over who does or does not attend. I doubt she even has the luxury (unlike Meghan) of saying no. She will be told what to do and expected to follow those instructions to the letter
Exactly this.
As everyone has said, Kate doesn’t have the power. That being said, its likely she would want Meghan sitting in the back. Bower is just taking an educated guess based on Kate’s past treatment of Meghan.
They previously said the Sussexes would be seated based on order of precedence so this just more delusion from Bowel Movement. So the Crymonger had no influence over anything.
I saw royalists being upset about this and I chuckled. They believed everything he wrote in his terrible book so he can’t be lying now. I love that Kate, Charles and Camilla are getting blowback from Meghan’s decision not to go to the coronation.
Maybe leaked by Team Camilla to make Kate look bad. Its not Kate’s decision but William made it known that He didnt want any Sussexes. Bower is catching a lot of heat but he claims he has sources. Karen Kate he said wanted Meghan sat at the back like Rosa Parks if she dared to come. Her comment that the walkabout was the hardest thing she had to do was pretty much the nail on the coffin for Meghan’s appearance at the very white Conathon. So I agree with Bower, Kate’s comment looks like a decisive factor in the Sussexes choices although more likely Charles’ decision to stage the clown show on Archie’s birthdaiy, the security issue and ending the lease at Frogmore were the main factors. Camilla wants to take heat off of Charles. Regardless, the UK royals are actively embracing racism against Meghan and her children. The bulk of Meghan’s abuse started when she announced her first pregnancy. No invitation for the children and the nonsense about taking titles from the babies clearly point out the bias.. Not a good look for subjects that are poc. The openly racist UK royals can say goodbye to the Commonwealth as well as Scotland, Ireland and Wales. Welcome to the real slimmed down monarchy.
1) Could be leaked by Kate/Carol(E) to make it look like Kate is the one in charge. They’ve been peddling Kate as the new family matriarch for years now.
2) Could be William leaking it to help him in his quest to sideline Kate.
Lol, something Bower forgot in his final sentence – if the Cambridges all died, not only would there be King Harry, but also Queen Meghan.
If Kate and Carol(E) quadruple down on this story? Harry will rescind his RSVP and stay home.
I’m picturing Kate and Carole over a cauldron, eye of newt and all that… The UK Press is getting a bit excited about the coronation, they’re letting their imagination fly.
Kate has no power. Lie.
Asking a Black woman to “sit in the back?!” Are you kidding us, in the year of our Lord Beysus 2023?!
The derangers have gone apes**t over his comments about K. I saw an oddly specific defence where, supposedly, K said it was a “dusty, white courtier” causing mischief and “she hadn’t seen this person in months”. Some were speculating it was a Rota burner account trying to diffuse the pushback. As to WanK, I think W is waiting for the Coronation shenanigans to be over and then the briefings against Chuck and Cam will be full throttle; if negativity is aimed at K in retaliation and the usual suspects don’t come to her defence, then acknowledgement of a separation will slowly be put in the public domain.
Yes one of the IG stan accounts suddenly has insider information about the courtiers who didn’t like Meghan… which means the IG stan account is not a random person but either KP staff or a Middleton.
The problem with their defence of Kate in trying to claim she isn’t racist is that there is a ton of visual evidence that shows her disdain of black people. Starting with her abhorrent behaviour with Lebron James. I mean it’s Lebron. Why are you acting like he’s a random man there to rob you.
Yes, it was definitely more close to the inner circle than random speculation.
As to Kate’s racism, there are so many instances where she can’t hide her palpable dislike of black people. It’s telling she can’t control her adverse reactions after being in the family for nearly 12 years. Her reaction in Jamaica was despicable.
So were her reactions to Lebron James and to Obama.
The deranger meltdown on twitter is so funny
Is this the beginning of Kate being made into the new scapegoat?
I imagine this is what keen actually said about Rose, but the tabloids have reframed it as about Meghan as per their contract with the royal family.
If Katie mcbuttons keen had any power, she won’t be the side piece in her own marriage
I hope Rose gets a new custom tiara for this as a gift from her husband while K has to deal with whatever Camilla will let her wear.
😂😂😂
Rose is very beautiful with an unusual face. She doesn’t wear much makeup or ostentatious jewelry. But she has an absolutely stunning diamond flower tiara that could be worn if that’s the dress code.
I agree with the comment back upthread that KM’s statement a few days ago that ‘the pre-funeral Windsor walkabout with H&M was the hardest thing she’d ever had to do’ effectively closed down M’s ability to attend the coronation.
If it’s all true, KM is a sly, cruel, coward.
You honestly think Meghan was ever planning to attend this sh*tshow? This is just a “save face” attempt by KP. Or its throwing Kate under the bus by Camilla. Making Kate out to be the royal racist.
I think Meghan’s immediate response to the clowning was a ‘no.’
I wish she used her so called power to do something really impactful for her early years initiative instead of being so petty and playing this kind of hateful games towards someone who is on record calling her a nice person…
Kkkate really didn’t deserve Meghan’s kindness. Serena Williams was right. Meghan is too nice!
Like everyone is saying, two things can be true at once: Kate would have seated Meghan at the back because Kkkate is racist. And Kkkate has no power to seat anyone in the back.
(And I still don’t get Rose H’s appeal. She’s so plain. But then so is Kkkate.)
Rose has intelligence, style, and personality.
Kate has no power what’s so ever this is just the media and Kensington palace trying to make Kate looks like she has any sort of power. This is just a enough red meat to throw to their Karen’s base if Meghan want to go she would go and all Kate could do is pout and stare and stew in a her bitterness and jealousy over never being as pretty as glamour as Meghan . I think kate is being throw under the bus and is being blamed the media wanted a new exclusive picture of Meghan that would have made them mint for years . Meghan has openly rejected the British media the British family and now the British media who has harass her threats her life constantly is freaking out over never seeing her again in Britain.
I made a very sarcastic comment on Angels Levin’s lunatic but upsetting Twitter feed on the lines of ‘it’s because she’s black’. I got 7 likes. The atmosphere in the UK is so toxic now I’m sure it’s behind my bad health. It’s fun watching the deranger meltdown though.
Yes and the phone call went “hello Catherine dear, as its the run up to my coronation with Charles, I want to give you a gift, I want people to see just how powerful you are,” oh Camilla, you are so kind, I wasn’t expecting anything from you, after all, this is your victory lap ”
” I know that Kate dear, but let’s run this story with my best friend Mr Bower and people will see you in all your splendor”.,
“Splendor, did you really say” splendor Camilla, does it mean a new wiglet and more jewels for me, oh, oh and a new BIGGLY tiara? ”
” Yes those as well dear, ”
” Oh please, please Camilla do it, I’m sure your best friend Mr Bower will do a wonderful job “.
” OK Kate dear, leave it with me “.
” thank you, thank you Camilla, see you soon, I’m just going to look through the new Hair is us catalogue, bye bye ”
Camilla hangs up, turns to Charlie and says” right, got the shallow bch, that’s her stitched up and the heat is of us and my being Queen, now pour me another gin and tonic and don’t be your usual tight git self with the gin
OK that made me laff!! “Don’t be your usual tight git self with the gin!”
Sure Jan.
Seating the Black Duchess “in the back”? Come on! This is 2023.
I recall how the palace blithely responded when there were recent reports of how segregated the royal workforce was in the 1960s and 70s. The courtiers fixed their lips to sarcastically respond that we shouldn’t infer anything from what the palace had been doing 50 years ago. Yet they’re now acting as though this IS the 1950s and a Black Duchess would be made to sit in the back of the church. This fuckery was openly announced in a publication.
What the hell, UK? Because this is a shitty look overall. The self-described once “great” Britain is now publicly admitting that non-whites will always be considered less than human on their salty shores. And folks are crowing with glee.
The Commonwealth is really getting an eyeful. Of course, they’ve always known. But now the Royals and the British media are shouting the once quiet part out loud.
It looks to me like Tom Bower’s piece was heavily edited. I keep seeing parts that look like the last part of the sentence was deleted. Just speculation on my part, but for instance, Bower wrote that Kate “said that if she does come, she will have to sit at the back.” Could the editor have deleted the words, of the bus? And when Bower wrote, “Harry’s presence is constitutionally important. If, God forbid, the Cambridges all died, we’d have King Harry on the throne after Charles, so he’s got to be there” I’m wondering if an editor removed the words, with his wife, who would become the queen.
I’ll apologize in advance if someone has already said this. This makes Wails a racist. She wants the black woman to sit in the back of the bus. I hope some credible media in the US pick this up and report it in this way. This is just horrible. I wouldn’t be surprised if this didn’t get through to some of the huge uninterested people in the US. I don’t think this was just to show Wails has power. This seems deliberate to me.
I hope whoever thought this was a good idea realizes that Wails isn’t the only member of the brf who will be painted as racist. Good job.
Sit in the back is “classiest/less important” in Britain. In the usa it might be racist. However, the British media is using American racial tropes to get press. Maybe they are trying to be racist.
Kate can’t save her ownself. She can’t ban Megan. She can barely tell Charlotte what to wear. Kate is barely invited to the chubbly. If Kate wants to try and pull a move, she shouldn’t go. Maybe show up at Archie’s party. Her and megan Maybe can talk. Kate seems to be getting bad advice and maybe after the rose thing she is ready to start fresh. I assume “early years” flop has humbled her. Kate landed a prince but her life is so sad. She hasn’t tried to better herself and is disposable.
Kimmee, pretty hard not to believe that the bm knew that telling a black woman who is an AMERICAN to sit in the back is racist. She’s American, something they’re well of, so I have to believe this was deliberate on their part.
So many excuses for Kate’s racism. Whomever said this comment about ‘seated in the back’ knew EXACTLY what they were saying – and it wasn’t about ‘class’.
“We must all be grateful that Kate in the end prevented Meghan from coming, saying she ‘wouldn’t have her there under any circumstances’. She said that if she does come, she will have to sit at the back.”
How does this make Kate look good? Except for the absolute worst racists, this is offensive on so many levels. And it makes these two two blithering hyenas sound like a couple of old hags, which they are probably. It is at the very least, unseemly for two old white men to talk like a couple of old biddies.
I worry about the Wales children who see the petty behavior of their parents
Does Bower not understand the damage he does with spreading stories like this? The question that should have been asked of him was “How do you know this?” Through his statement Kate doesn’t come out as some type of hero but as a spoilt spiteful little girl.
Some deranger s raise keen to sainthood for her mean girl antics to Meghan
Along with the rest of the verbal diarrhea Bower spewed in that diatribe, there was this, “I do think that for the Royal Family, Harry’s presence is constitutionally important. If, God forbid, the Cambridges all died, we’d have King Harry on the throne after Charles, so he’s got to be there.”
Right, so reading that bit I thought if, god forbid, the Cambridges all died, Harry’s queen would be Meghan. Just reminding him of that fact if he wants to use this as his argument. Harry would not be king with a family living in America.
I still find it painful looking at pictures of Meghan from when she was really trying to make it work. In those early days, before we really knew what was happening behind the scenes, it was so obvious how much she was holding herself back, trying to dull her own shine. By the time this pic was taken, we already had a sense of what was going on, but I still just want to hug her and tell her it’s going to all work out.
Kate needs to work on her game. There is nothing at all “resting” about her Bitch Face. She looks old and hard and hateful and ready to do murder.
It’s also likely she’s struggling with parenting, despite the nannies etc, now she’s having to work more with the higher profile role. And, if that’s correct, Carol Middleton will be needed daily to either prop up her daughter to face her responsibilities and/or parent KM’s three kids!
What a bunch the Middletons are.
Kate isn’t ‘working more’. As referenced above, she’s doing handfuls of five minute phone calls.
Sorry notasugarhere, hadn’t read that a few phone calls are what constitutes KM’s additional work with her new role. Just scandalous.
She’s laughing up her sleeve at the gullible British public.
In the small picture to click on of Duchess Meghan and Kate Middleton, it just dawned on me what Kate’s face is giving: executioner energy. She is a very hateful and damaged woman. If she had real power, she’d be cutting off people’s heads.
@You and Grandma Susan, I feel that way too. Real power or not, Kkkhate is a dangerous person; there is no soul left in her eyes.
Grandma Susan, I didn’t even see your comment until after I posted, but it’s interesting that we both recognized in her a would-be murderess. She is relentless, hard and dangerous, like the recent book title, Mad, Bad and Dangerous to Know.
Both Bower and Tominey keeps repeating their narratives so much that they’ve literally lost their marbles..All because some Americans aren’t attending the coronation.. LMAO… I guess they don’t realize they’re taking the spotlight away from their new king. Another LMAO..
If it’s an article written by either one of them, I literally just ignore it.(I’m only reading the comments by Kaiser or the posters on here as they provide some fun Arguments 🙂 ).
The bar is low. All the articles praising Kate for her horrible behavior especially in the dm reporters with all the self righteous poor Kate articles . Kates self righteousness is appalling. Charles could have told her to lose her bad attitude. But Charles can’t stand to support meghan . I think he and Kate and Bill want harry to abandon Meghan and the children. And then they will treat him better. The con a nation is a mess
Kate was so happy making appearances with harry and will getting flirty with harry. She wanted to be the center of attention and could not stand Meghan marrying harry. It’s bad enough but when her media fans talk about how classy Kate is for treating Meghan that way it gets nauseating. Harry needs to not get lured back there.
Now this one I don’t believe. I think that if Meghan were told that if she came she would have to sit all the way in the back, that Harry would not have come, even alone. Also yeah, she doesn’t have that much power. I do believe that the kids weren’t invited, but I don’t think any kids under a certain age go right (there seemed to be talk whether Louis was old enough, and generally we haven’t seen the kids at the official mass services like the Christmas and Easter services and the recent funerals until they are 4 or 5). If they didn’t invite the sussex kids to some sort of random family things occurring in the week around the coronation (if there were any of those things things that kids are invited to) that is just stupid. They should have made an effort to invite them to something.
Why not believe it? This was leaked after Harry agreed to go, meaning he wouldn’t have known about these demands (of Kate or whomever) that Meghan be ‘seated in the back’.
It seems to be a whole lot of backpeddling from the UK Royals and their RRs minions. Trying to pretend that Meghan wasn’t the one who Made Her Own Choice not to attend this sh!tshow.
Whichever camp this is coming from, it is from a camp that wants everyone to know the Black Duchess deserves no respect.
I know people disagree with me, but I maintain Harry will rescind his RSVP *if he feels that is the correct thing to do*. If we get three more weeks of gleeful, racist attacks against Meghan that are clearly leaked by either Charles/Camilla/William or Kate/Carol(E)? Harry will decide whether or not these abusers deserve his presence.
Harry has the option of a diplomatic illness if things get super bad over there.
I think Meghan is above caring about what Kate thinks and just wants to avoid Harry’s toxic family. And, she’s probably having a huge shindig for Archie at her house with much more fun people.
How funny because Kate isn’t preventing anything. She can’t even prevent her husband from cheating on her constantly. She didn’t want Meghan there because she’s gonna have her hands full wondering where Willy is constantly…..is he with Rose, where is Rose, etc. Kate would probably have a nervous breakdown between seeing how gorgeous and elegant Meghan looked and constantly wondering if Rose was somewhere making out with Willy. Karma is coming for Willy and Kate and all those racist RF because GOD don’t like ugly. They all are going to reap what the sow.
Wasn’t there a recent article (I can’t keep track!) about how mean Meghan was tormenting innocent little flower Kate? And then we have the articles about Kate the Great, Kate the Peacemaker, etc. So is she a sensitive “girl” who cries at the drop of a hat or the savior of the monarchy? Well, I guess today, she is the “Power” behind the throne. Laughable. Are we expected to believe that Kate put her foot down and said if Meghan goes, I’m not, etc.? Don’t they see how the messaging is so constantly contradictory and just makes them all look worse?