DeSantis has been out-of-state on the campaign trail in his mythic quest to seek the Republican 2024 nomination. How is the charm-offensive working? Just ask this kid in Iowa who was sipping an Icee. Well as it turns out, he’s not the only one who’s been leaving Florida: people are pulling out of conferences and tourist visits, both key pieces of the Sunshine State’s economy. The reason? The slew of terrible bills DeSantis enacted has left many feeling like Florida is now a hostile environment for them. Per CNN:
Early numbers from Broward County: “Unlike leisure business, which is a very short-term booking window [in weeks or months], conference business is long term,” said Stacy Ritter, president and chief executive officer of the Visit Lauderdale tourism marketing agency in Broward County, Florida. “We’re booking ‘26 to ‘30 now, so any impact that this might have is not going to be seen for years to come.” As of July 26, Ritter said that Visit Lauderdale has tallied 10 events and conventions that were canceled by organizations citing recently enacted laws, policies and travel advisories. That amounts to 15,000 lost hotel room nights and an estimated $20 million economic impact, she said.
2025 bookings are low for Broward’s new $1.5B hotel: “Broward County has invested $1.5 billion in building an 801-room Omni hotel connected to our expanding and renovated convention center, [but] we are not seeing the bookings for ‘26, ‘27, ‘28, ‘29 and ‘30, which we would have anticipated — considering that we will have this shiny new toy in the neighborhood in late-2025,” she said.
AERA pulled to stand up for trans rights: AERA pulled its 15,000-person meeting in Orlando after Florida passed the Fairness in Women’s Sports Act, which prohibits transgender female athletes from participating in women’s sports teams, said Tony Pals, spokesperson for AERA, in an email to CNN. In 2021, AERA adopted a motion that it would not hold a conference or event in a state with anti-trans laws, Pals added.
Some groups are canceling despite the money they will lose: It was a difficult decision for the National Society of Black Engineers to move its 2024 event from Florida, said Janeen Uzzell, CEO of the National Society of Black Engineers, which two years ago selected Orlando to serve as the host city for its 50th annual convention. But after conversations with the NAACP, the National Urban League, legal team, sponsors, members of Congress as well as other organizations in the same boat, the NSBE decided it was best to not have the event there, she said, adding that “significant sums” of money are potentially being left on the table.
A ‘gut-check moment’: [Co-founder and CEO of Equality Florida Nadine] Smith said that this is a “gut-check moment” for businesses that have talked about diversity and that “everyone’s paying attention to who stands up and who doesn’t.” She added that she fears the damage has already been done from these laws, and that it will take years to recover. “The thing about economic erosion, it’s like climate change: People go, ‘Oh, we’ve still got tourists and people are still on the beaches.’ Yeah, we do, and Florida is a beautiful place, but how do you tally what you’re losing?” Smith said. “How do you tally what it means to have the best and the brightest students after graduation go elsewhere with their talent?”
It’s not just the students leaving, it’s the teachers too, in what’s being called a massive “brain drain.” But who actually thinks Meatball Ron cares a whit about talented minds leaving the state? Yeah, I thought so. He can’t even acknowledge the business drain happening in his state. When Disney announced they were abandoning a $1.3 billion office project the best DeSantis could come up with was “well it’s been two years already and they haven’t done it!” Yes, because unlike their cartoons, Disney corp can’t actually wave a magic wand or bibbity-bobbity-boo a building complex into existence. (At least, not yet…) DeSantis’s office issued an anemic response to CNN saying their story (otherwise known as the facts) were “nothing more than a media-driven stunt.” Touche, Ron. Can’t wait for the debate.
One thing I was really struck by was the National Society of Black Engineers being open about the fact that they will likely lose quite a bit of money in pulling out of Florida now. But they are willing to risk the “significant sums” in the name of their values. Funny, then, that it appears DeSantis is inadvertently doing the same thing. His culture war on “woke” is costing his state billions of dollars and countless opportunities. So in reality, Florida is where “work” goes to die.
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😂😂😂 yes bibbity bobbity boo he is tanking the economy in Florida with his facist policies and laws. He is another like trump that needs to be removed from our society and the faster the better.
He’s tanking FL’s “future” economy. Right now, FL is leading the nation in economic strength thanks to the work of his predecessors.
That would be Utah, actually.
bibbity bobbity boo. That cracked me up! Great writing as always Celebitchy!
I don’t even think trump would be so dumb as to pass policies that actually lose the state money. The scary part about Desantis is that he believes the hateful shit he spews.
So PROUD of Leaders standing up to fascism in a way that COUNTS! By putting their 💸💰where their 👄is!
Me too!! I hope that more organizations take note and follow suit!! It’s quite telling when the NSBE walked away losing money. That speaks volumes!! I am not surprised that teachers are leaving, nor school administrators as well! Could you imagine facing jail IF you taught any possible “woke” materials in class?? F’ that!!!!
We actually hold the annual convention for Ophthalmologist in only four cities, and Orlando is one of them. Given that the only four cities that can host the vast array of sub-specialties, Orlando would be a big drop for them, given that they also offer courses for practice management courses, ie coding, practice management, ilk. I do hope that the AAOO follows suit as well, but they aren’t as political as other companies. 🙁
DeSantis plans to be elsewhere (the White House) when the real economic pain due to his policies hits Florida, so he doesn’t care what’s happening now. He’ll just blame any problem with the economy on the Blacks, and his (dwindling) base will gobble it up. Like a meatball.
Oh, absolutely!! Lucky for him, he has a snowflake chance in hell winning the GOP ticket! DeSatin will have to go back to the land of destruction that HE created and face his constituents. That’s what you get for voting for an authoritarian governor!! You parents wanted more power, DeSatin delivered and you will face teacher shortages, employment offers as well as a dwindling tax revenue which the voters will be stuck paying up for the difference.
Welcome to the Sunshine state where you won’t have blue skies but algae damaged beaches, sinking cities and below par teachers. 🌞
@BothSidesNow, don’t forget the low-rate criminal cops he’s recruiting. It’s terrifying what’s happening in FL. Where woke goes to die…😒
Great job putting this story together, Kismet!
It’s awful the National Society of Black Engineers has to lose money to do what’s right and best for their members. But I am loving the fact the conference centers are losing money. They deserve it.
I wonder if associations, corporations, etc. will start writing clauses in their contracts to address potential social legislation to cover this sort of issue and minimize losses. And the person interviewed is spot on, business travel is back and big conventions book venues and hotels several years out.
I would imagine in this instance, aside from a social justice stance, they were also getting feedback that attendance, sponsors and speakers/facilitators would not participate if it stayed in Florida.
This right here. I work in the tourism industry and honestly this is the *BEST* way that the general public can protest Fascist Florida and Dictator DeSantis. If anyone is looking to cancel for future events, in general attrition only applies to events 365 days or less, so pull out now. May I suggest Eastern NC as a replacement location?
We are paying attention in NC and there are *certain* folks that are trying to say that it is all Disney’s fault because of their wokeness, but numbers don’t lie. The 1Q numbers that FL put up made Dictator DeSantis look good, but 2Q is tanking and costing them sooooo much money and 3Q is going in that same direction.
Personally, we are going to support Disney for my Daughter’s birthday in December but only spend money in/on the resort with zero dollars spent in the rest of Orange County.
When tourism makes everyone’s economic impact take a hit, the powers that be pay much closer attention than if there were protests all day every day. The Power of the Purse is highly under valued.
I’ve been to Disney. and I do understand the power of the purse. but everything is so pricey there! I could not have afforded it if I’d vowed to eat every meal at the park. we also stayed in a motel just across the street from the park entrance, which saved us hundreds.
in all of this, the small businesses are suffering the most. I wish your daughter a very happy birthday and hope you all have a great visit!
if it’s her (or anyone’s) first visit, you can get a (free!) button that says so at any of the shops, and people who see it will act like it’s your birthday even if it isn’t. (it’s also probably the only free thing there other than tap water.) that was really fun for me!
Please keep in mind that Orange and Osceola county are both blue and have been blue forever. I feel bad for many of the locals who are suffering from this.
I can’t believe NSBE waited so long to pull out.
I was listening to a podcast and the ad was, “visit Orlando, it’s VERY gay-friendly.” Well, maybe (?), but the entire state law system isn’t. Literally the state is bow designed and intended to kick all the “weird”/non-republicans OUT. That’s the goal and it sounds like DeSantis is happy to lose the people and income if it gets rid of the gay.
The DeSantis War Room has an insanely homophobic attack ad splicing all the positive things Trump said about gay folks. Pulse nightclub? IDK I don’t see FL as a gay-friendly place AT ALL.
I’m in planning for college groups and there are quite a few kids and families who have taken colleges in the states with discriminatory laws off the table as choices.
Apparently the home owners insurance situation in FL is a nightmare as well.
I just got my insurance bill. It went up $3K this year, about 27% for me. It’s insane, and I don’t even live near water.
I’m temporarily residing in this hell known as Florida so that I can sell my father’s house. He can no longer afford it after his home insurance went up 4K in May, and there’s now going to be a flood insurance requirement on 1/1/24, and another 18% rate hike at his next renewal. He can’t do it any longer on a fixed income.
There is little private insurance available. My own employer, a large insurer, pulled out years ago and stopped writing auto even due to the auto losses during the last big hurricane. Farmer’s left in the last few months, among others.
Oddly enough, the real estate market is still decent enough right now. I just need to get this sole (we’ve signed with a realtor and are getting prepped to list) and get my gay, fixed-income father out of here. The realtor is gay, and he said he’s doing well with sales thanks to the rightwing moving in. Don’t know how much truth there is, but there is positive growth in population in FL (and TX) right now.
Also in Florida, planning to leave in the next year. Like, aggressively working on my house so I can sell and GTFO. My neighborhood has been massively gentrified since I moved in 20 years ago, which is good for home prices but shitzy for having neighbors who call code enforcement every 2 seconds and litter the streets with DeSantis and Gaetz signs. Plus property insurance. Plus book banning, Plus gay rights and women’s rights and hurricanes and racism and and and… it’s a garbage pit. Which sucks, because I like my house and the taco truck up the block and little neighborhood art festivals and stuff, but in a few years it’s going to be total redneck idiocracy in this state, and I don’t want to be here.
There are a lot of folks that have started retiring in New Bern, Beaufort, and Washington NC if your dad is looking to relocate. We have had so many people relocate to our little neck of the woods for the same reasons. It is definitely worth checking out.
Watching the news as to how desperate Floridians are facing with the issue of home owners insurance, forget about flood insurance, it’s is a crap shoot now. The companies that are still operating in Florida, after the mass exodus of many big and companies, are literally robbing EVERY citizen in Florida!!
How could anyone afford these double digit increases?? On top of the fact that as each year passes, more and more reputable insurance companies will leave the land of fascism?? (Though I only lived in Florida for 2 years, in Davie, I hated living there are the crime was OOC!!)
Our oldest is going to be a senior in high school and we had to fill out a form asking if we had any parameters when looking at schools (cost, location, etc.). Our only parameter is that it can’t be in a state with anti-LGBTQ+ laws on the books or in the pipeline, which takes out Florida, Texas, North Carolina…basically every state not in the northeast or California. Our son is trans and nobody in our family is going to live in a state where we can be arrested for helping with gender affirming care or he can be arrested for using a bathroom.
Minnesota might be the only safe state in the Midwest for him. We have a trans activist friend who is doing amazing work out there in Minneapolis.
We went through this two years ago when our non-binary child applied for college (and it wasn’t nearly as bad then). You might want to look at schools in Canada. Kiddo ended up at the University of Toronto and is very, very happy there. Their first year roommate was a trans man from Minnisota. Their roommate this year is a trans man from Ontario.
With the currency exchange rate, tuition and fees for an international student is around $50,000US (and UofT is at the higher end of the Canadian tuition scale, McGill is much more reasonable). They are paying $1200US per month in rent to share a two bedroom apartment in a brand new building in a very gay friendly neighborhood in Toronto (this is the high end of the rent scale for students).
I feel awful for the families going through this right now.
Liz, I hope your child is enjoying U of T. it is considered one of the best universities in the world so even with the higher price, you probably are getting value for the exchange. I may be biased because I am an alum.
@sunny – thank you! Kiddo loves U of T! Enjoying their classes and found a lovely group of friends. I took 4 or 5 of them out for dinner when I went to visit in the spring and they could not have been nicer (yes, I was paying, so it was in their interest to be nice to me, but still . . . .).
And I am very aware of the value we are getting for our money. My nephew is at Yale; my brother and I had the “what are you really paying” conversation. His jaw dropped when I told him.
Illinois is actively affirming LGBT+ rights, the right to bodily autonomy, and everything these fascists are threatening in other states. I’m so grateful to be living here.
I’m with Sunny, this is awful, and I’m so sorry for all the families going through this.
McGill is cheaper even for international students because Quebec controls its tuition far more than most other provinces. In the mid 1990s Ontario premier Mike Harris, precursor to current corrupt Doug Ford, removed the controls first on tuition for professional schools which tripled their tuition within 15 years and now undergrad is much more expensive too. Canadian schools don’t offer the same scholarship opportunities as American schools do and so a hike in tuition really affects who can attend.
That said being anti LGBT at any university in Canada is severely criticized. The religious nuts tend to homeschool or do their private university with sketchy credentials, so the campuses tend to be pretty welcoming. And this applies to all Canadian public universities.
My daughter will start her freshman year of college in a couple of weeks. When she started her college search last fall, any college located in Florida was automatically crossed off the list.
I’m a little embarrassed to admit that I hadn’t thought of this, my son is 13. Yeah, we are going to have to talk about this before he gets his heart set on a college that is in a state I absolutely will not be giving my money for his higher education.
I’m Australian; but I remember years ago I was visiting a friend in Chicago. Her family had lived in Australia for a few years of high school.
Her little sister, who had been hard left and in the Peace Corps during her undergraduate degree (is that what you call it in the US? I can’t recall), had gone to Texas for her postgraduate law degree, and had gotten sucked into a mega church, become a born again, was spouting Tea Party politics and was engaged to a hard right conservative.
She was always a bit of a follower, it’s true; but it was such a drastic change and it caused so many arguments in their family!
She was in town when I was there, prepping for her (very quick) wedding. She kept lambasting her family for their views. She wanted her parents to pay for everything but told them she didn’t want to get married in their lovely decades-long family church, because it was too liberal and the minister was an open lesbian. She said very nasty things. Many many arguments ensued!
Fortunately, that relationship didn’t last and she seemed to ‘wake up’ out of those beliefs, as I’ve seen her on my friend’s IG in more recent years, protesting for civil rights. But I do note how big of an impact being surrounded by hardcore conservatives in Texas had on her during university.
Yup. My daughter is a rising high school junior and we’ve already crossed several places off the list because they are in red states. Can’t have a young woman residing in an area where reproductive freedom is criminalized and rapists are protected. No loss to us.
I admittedly haven’t done the research, but Illinois is a blue state with some good colleges.
Hi I’m from IL and have been my entire life. I’ve lived and worked both in the suburbs and in the city of Chicago.
We have some extremely good colleges and a Governor and other politicians who are very LGBTQ+ friendly, pro womens rights, pro social services, etc. Overall I’m pretty proud to be from IL.
I will say this though….the southern part of IL is very aggressively red. To the point where I felt uncomfortable and I have the privilege to be white and cis and straight passing in these areas. I shudder to think about how poc or any lgbtq+ community member who doesnt “pass” as cis or straight would fare down there. For context, I lived in the so called “dangerous” city of Chicago, traveled all over the city/went to school there and never once felt that creeping feeling of potential violence that I felt in Wilmington IL. It was very unwelcoming and eerie. I wish I could describe or explain it better but I can’t.
Plus a good portion of central and southern IL backed Darrien Bailey who I believe was endorsed by Trump.
So definitely come to IL! It’s a great state with great job and education opportunities but research the towns veryyyy carefully.
Do I feel sorry for those people in Florida who voted Blue? Yes.
Do I feel sorry for those people in Florida who voted for him?
LMAO, no.
Not to kick Florida when she’s already down, but let me also add the reported cases of malaria, and what I just heard on the news yesterday, leprosy, to the litany of miseries happening in that state. DeSantis is trying to run on the platform that if he’s elected president he’ll turn the U.S. into another Florida. MSNBC is giving/gave him a platform to discuss his ideas. Either that or giving/gave him a platform to get his wife on the cover of Vogue. Lord, can we shut this man down already??!!!! Can we he just go away??? I wouldn’t want to inflict him and his family on any state, but damnit Florida, you created him, take him back already. We don’t need another fascist trying to run for President.
I don’t want to live in another Florida. Perish the thought. I’m prodding my husband into obtaining his Irish citizenship through ancestry so we can head over there if necessary.
I’ve had a few family members get dual citizenship so they have the option of relocating. Wish I could too but my ancestry is too many generations back for me to qualify.
Not to kick FL when she is down, but a few more years of Deathsentence and I might find some bargain FL property to hold onto. It would be hilarious if the orange one dumped Maralago.
It would be funnier if M-A-L was seized to pay his lawyers.
I saw the writing on the wall two years ago and moved out of Florida. Although I moved to a Midwest state that voted to keep abortion rights, they are horrible on LGBTQ+ stuff. Although it is being fought in the courts as our attorney general is a transphobic moron.
However, I put out a ginormous Pride flag on my porch in June and not one person in my neighborhood, who have many Trump signs out, have said one word. My goal is to eventually move to Colorado and retire. Hopefully by then, DeSantis will be a blip on the radar in Florida and people will barely remember his name.
Don’t forget the malaria and leprosy cases spreading since he’s gutted the public health department
That’s what I just said too. ⬇️
It’s like God sending a plague to people that displease Him
Malaria or Malania? Is there a difference?
hahahahhhaa good one
Lol Lizzie! Malariana must be Patient Zero!!🤣🤣
Let’s not leave off the highest STD rates in the country among heterosexual senior citizens. AND when Jeb Bush (no Bush fan) he started/promoted The Sunshine Kids which made all childhood vaccinations free and readily available to ALL Florida children. In 2015 the vaccination rate was 88%. In 2022 it was 81%. That means something in terms of public health.
It’s not only DeSaster’s right-wing politics affecting Florida’s overall economy, but especially the tourism, it’s his whole anti-science stance.
His surgeon general Joseph Ladapo is a Covid-denier, anti-masker, anti-vaxxer and an all around esoteric quack.
And there are so many reported cases of lepra that officials working in health care management here in Europe are fearing it’s already past containable and has become endemic.
If that’s not *the* reason to stay away, then I really don’t know why people are still going.
While he is enacting his right-wing extremist social policies the economy of FL is going down right in front of his face and he is doing nothing but campaigning. Why isn’t the orange one calling this out?
Being anti science is also rightwing politics. Unfortunately for everyone who has to share air with them.
I do feel badly for the people of Florida (except the ones who support all this BS).
I hope DeSantis alternately steps on legos and dog poop for the rest of his days.
For some reason this posted below the comment but I’m responding to the comment above where someone has said they’re glad the venues are losing money as well. Yes, economic pressure is good for trying to reverse these policies, but they are venues. Buildings. They did not pass these laws. They also employ actual human beings. The people employed there end up impacted by this as well in job losses when the work dries up.
I’m not saying it’s a bad idea to pull the event from the venue and go elsewhere. I just don’t see why you’re so gleeful about the venues losing money as if they are responsible for the atrocious policies that have caused this in the first place. Lost revenues mean less work for people who, again, did not enact these laws.
I don’t think anyone is celebrating but most people voted for this person and his awful policies and the only way to bring about changes is to hit them where it hurts. In the wallet. When you play with people’s money, they start to see reason.
@Izzy, I disagree.
If you are hosting/organizing a convention, you have a duty to ensure the people you invite to attend will be reasonably safe, and treated with dignity and equality.
And if you choose to host it in FL, these laws mean you absolutely know that any LGBTQ+ members of your group/conference guests will NOT be safe, and will be met with discrimination.
Hosting a conference/convention in FL today tells members you don’t care if you put them in danger.
That threat of real danger should absolutely be the priority for conference organizers, over whether or not some employees in a state whose majority voted again and again for this discriminatory d-bag, may lose out on making money. (After all, wherever a conference/convention moves once it decides not to host in FL, it will be bringing money to that state, so it’s not like other venue staff won’t be positively impacted by a switch.)
And it is the duty of those feeling that pinch in FL to get loud and visible about how DeSantis is harming the economy, and harming them, and to work to stop these discriminatory anti-woke policies, even if only for economic purposes and not because it’s, you know, the right thing morally.
But to suggest convention organizers should put themselves or members of their organizations in danger because “not all Floridians” voted for RD is just dangerous – and leads to just the kind of discrimination DeSantis wants (since most LGBTQ members of an organization would likely need to choose to opt out for safety reasons, thus missing out on various professional and personal opportunities if they can’t attend their conferences/conventions etc)
I agree that the organizers have a duty to plan conferences in places that ensure safety of attendees. But I don’t hold the actual venues responsible for the policies and laws that have made it unsafe. I hold the voters who put this meatball in office responsible, and the state legislature which is full of grifters and hypocrites.
Honestly, I have never understood why people are so dazzled by Meatball DeSatan. He’s so dense that light bends around him.
In 2022 voter turnout in Florida was 54%. So even if some people losing money didn’t vote for Meatball Ron they didn’t vote against him either. If you don’t vote, don’t complain.
I voted. Believe me, I voted. And NOT for the meatball.
blue in Florida here, I vote and will continue to vote every time… for the past year+, I keep coming on here and spouting off about how we REALLY REALLY need to be nervous about this guy…I cannot even insult a delicious meatball by calling him a meatball. I am in Central FL and everything that has been noted is 10000000% true….insurance, reproductive rights, bigotry, racism, safety, health…I work in public health and we have been gutted – clearly. That being said, I ~actually~ think that maybe, jUST MAYBE, we have escaped the worst and he won’t make it to Pres – a huge THANK YOU to Disney!!!! (I will never complain about them again). As much as I would love to pack up and hit the road out of Florida, I am a third generation Floridian and I REFUSE to let these bozos take over our beautiful, wonderful state. Until recent years, it is safe to say Florida (largely) embraced diversity and was a destination for LGBTQ+ (Orlando, St. Pete, Key West….). I just cannot sit back and let it happen. Leaving Florida is not the answer (reserve the right to change my mind).
Izzy, I see your point however let’s remember a lot of these folks impacted voted for the people who DID enact the laws. Actions have consequences and they are reaping what they have sown.
Fair enough. I attend a huge medical conference that is in different cities every year. They were supposed to be in Orlando in a couple of years, and they must have gotten a lot of pushback from their professional membership (they certainly heard about it from me and other patient advocates), because they just announced a conference venue task force to look at current and future venue selections.
I think a quick look at how those hotel and real estate development companies donate politically will make you far less sympathetic. They’re getting what they paid for.
This.
Pretty sure the people who are rich enough to own the venues vote Republican.
And they donate to Republican candidates.
Another reality check for Meatball is the upcoming hurricane season. With home insurers leaving the state, there are a lot of people without adequate insurance if a storm wrecks their property. It’s sickening to think about it, knowing what is absolutely going to happen to vulnerable people who can’t up and move out of the state.
It’s not just insurers leaving the state, 9 homeowners insurance companies have become insolvent since 2021 and the DeSantis administration has done NOTHING to get these companies to pay existing claims. It is a real nightmare for homeowners. I personally know several people with advanced degrees who have left the state because it was intolerable to live there. I also know of a large federal conference that canceled and went else where because of the hostile environment created by the policies of DeSantis.
I read a fascinating article a couple of months ago about the dire straights of Florida. The focus was on how their biggest population (retirees) are now looking at other states. The article was about perfect alternatives to Florida for the elderly. Basically Florida’s high insurance rates, astronomical rise in real estate costs and etc is now making it not ideal for older retired people and that buying market is now going elsewhere. In teaching groups, I see a lot of Florida educators discussing leaving and moving to other states.
DeSantis has made Florida a minefield for educators. With many of the most qualified teachers potentially moving to other states, I really feel for the public schoolchildren who are unable to leave the state. These kids are doomed to receive a subpar education from teachers who don’t even have to be licensed, to teach a science denying curriculum that also whitewashes history.
I know. Good educators are so flustered. Not a lot have the funds to leave nor want to because you know heritage and roots. It’s hard. No one eats to treat their students that way and want to just teach. Most of all, it’s filtering all the way to Higher Ed.
Look, he doesn’t care about the economic impact of lost conventions because it hits hardest the areas that didn’t vote for him.
I live in Orlando, which is EXTREMELY blue. It’s also where one of the state’s largest convention centers is. Other popular convention destinations, like Miami and Tampa, also are largely blue bubbles in an overall red state. Disney not opening their Lake Nona office campus affects my immediate community much more than the red areas that actually voted for this despicable turd. I truly believe that he’s happy to see us punished by his fascist, bigoted bullsh*t.
I mean, he was perfectly happy to watch people who voted for him die needlessly as a result of his ghastly covid policies. He could not be shouting any louder that he legitimately does not care about a single human being on the planet but himself. So should we really be surprised that he’s not troubled by the economic impact felt hardest by the people he hates the most?
This! I live in Broward County (which is the Hollywood/Ft Lauderdale area) it overwhelmingly voted blue. He also couldn’t be bothered to come to the area when it flooded earlier this year. I don’t fault convention organizers for pulling out. There are states I won’t visit. But just remember that the politicians and people who voted for these jerks arent actually the ones who will be suffering from his gross policies
@whatever I also live in the Orlando area and second everything you said here.
It will be interesting to see how things shake out in the next 5 years, but so far it is the blue areas who will see impact to tourism and people who vote blue anyway who will be adversely impacted. Meanwhile, there are still so many people moving into the state for the low cost of living, which is the factor that is driving up home costs here. It seems like this is slowing down a bit, partly due to De Santis but also partly due to companies requiring more in-office time which makes working remotely less available. Florida just barely went red in the last Presidential election. Maybe the influx of voters from California and NY and Washington will be enough to swing the state blue again.
Thank you so much for reminding everyone that the state only very narrowly went red in the last election. I love where I live, my family loves it here, and we don’t want to surrender a life we love to a very narrow majority of intellectually lazy fascists. We’d rather stay and fight for our community. I remember how close Gillum came to winning, and I have hope for us.
And I wish the rest of the country would bear in mind, when they discuss Florida as though it is nothing but a wasteland, that virtually half of the state does NOT vote for DeSantis, hates his guts, and has created communities where they feel safe, valued, and supported.
Yes, it was a narrow margin this time but Florida used to be a purple state that swung between the Democrats and Republicans for control. Now, it’s been decades since either a Democratic governor or a Democratic-controlled state legistlature has been in control. The majority of the Congressional delegation is Republican. With more and more MAGA-turds moving to Florida these past few years and an incompetent state party organization, I think the days of Florida electing a Democrat to statewide office are over.
I wouldn’t count on those transplanted New Yorkers helping you out down there. He won reelection by a much larger margin than the first time which means plenty of them undoubtedly voted for him – they knew where they were moving to.
Correct. I’m not gleeful over things like this. The people hurt by these polices include marginalized groups and even Democrats. Jacked up voting districts is how people like this get power and so many disenfranchised communities. This news is bad for the people of Flordia and what’s worse is how DeSantis policies are being used as a map in other states. NC has always been purple, now our GA is becoming Flordia-lite and our Democratic Gov is out the door. I see Tenn and Kentucky also going the Flordia route. None of these are good signs. If conventions and concerts pull out if NC our state economy will suffer.
Yes that’s an undeniable shame but the point is that these people are merely collateral damage for DeSantis’s cruel policies. People need to direct their anger and frustration towards DeSantis and not the businesses pulling out of deals with the convention centers. They should be applauded for doing the right thing when so many corporations and businesses don’t.
Yet as DeSatin was asked and his office of minions replied stated to CNN; “saying their story (otherwise known as the facts) were “nothing more than a media-driven stunt.”
Such a pathetic, egotistical little man smdh…
WELL SAID.
I don’t blame them for pulling out of the conventions. I wouldn’t visit there as a tourist! The whole vibe of Florida right now just makes me feel like it’s a MAGA mecca and that my partner and I as a mixed race couple would be unwelcome and unsafe there.
A few weeks ago, a story came out that travel to Disney is way down and they attributed it to Americans going abroad this summer. While I’m sure that’s true, I’ve been wondering if part of the downturn is people getting sick of what’s happening in Florida and not wanting to spend money there. If the big money conferences are pulling out, it stands to reason that regular people may be finding other places to go, too.
In January 2020 my daughter moved into the Disney College Program dorms, we had annual Disney passes and plans to visit from NY twice a month. We were really enjoying FL. Kayaking with Manatees, the Tiffany Museum. We thought we’d be spending a lot more time in Florida. Mid March we brought her home for lockdown and won’t return to Florida until things there change. I have to layover when I go visit family in Havana and I won’t spend money on the airport. We loved Christmas in South Beach. Sunny, Drag Queens dancing, brunch at the Versace house. My son and daughter are going to spend Christmas at Tokyo Disney with some friends. My husband and I will be in Mexico. I seriously hate Ron Desantis and everyone who voted for him.
One of my stepdaughters starts the Disney College Program this month. I think it will be a good opportunity for her because she’ll get needed experience as a performer (she’s a dancer), but I worry about her being in FL. As an adult who unashamedly enjoys Disney World, it makes me sad to realize I probably won’t visit again after she’s done with her program.
We’ve had annual passes for years, and are members of Disney Vacation Club. To say we go a lot is an understatement. I think that the coming year will be the first in probably 5 or 6 years that we will not be renewing our annual passes ☹️, and fortunately, we used our vacation club points for a trip to Disneyland California this past spring, which we liked very much. I still plan on going maybe once or twice more to Orlando for the sake of my youngest daughter who still has a couple of things to do there, but after that I am fine switching our allegiance to Anaheim. One of our now adult kids is nonbinary – need I say more.
There was a time when I would visit Disney at least twice a year. That ended some years back when they turned a wonderful, magical park into a shopping mall with rides.
I won’t step foot in that state now.
I will never go to FL as long as that jabroni is in charge. I would never go to Texas or Iowa either if we didn’t have family there. It’s time to boycott red states with regressive and bigoted laws.
I have a family member in Key Largo and I’ve refused to visit since the Orange POS took office, and still won’t go because I loathe DeSatan. My family member and his wife are also MAGA Trump humpers so I don’t really care if I ever see them again as visits always devolve into political squabbles.
Same thing happened with me and my Trump-loving fam in San Diego, Jaded. I used to feel kind of sad about it but honestly, sometimes it’s for the best to just let those people go. Their politics are toxic and harmful and they will never, ever see it.
Native Texan here and while I absolutely love my STATE, the idiot government here is another thing entirely.
It really is sad what some of my most favorite states has devolved into
I know my little pennies are not even a drip in the bucket, but I’m avoiding giving these red states my money directly. I just read that more cruise lines are moving north and cruising out of Baltimore so I’ll be checking out those options instead of FL.
I personally decided after Trayvon Martin I would not spend one dime in Florida ever again. Anyway it’s hot and humid and the Confederate flags everywhere etc. I’m over it. Statues of traitors to the union pro slavery people erected everywhere. I feel for the sections of Florida that are real blue and did everything they could to stop this.
I feel like the mood of the country is changing (Alabama Riverfront Battle anyone) – it could be we are getting louder and stopped bringing knives to gunfights. It could be that we finally understand going high when they go low causes them to be even more murderous, more vicious, and go even lower. It could also be that we are loudly calling the Susan Surandans what they are: privileged twits who are not affected when the Trumps are elected to office. Maybe that idiotic hit lynching song by that coward who fled the stage when a shooting occurred without using his mic to warn the people there was an active shooter has been our collective wake up call. You guys, I am mad as hell. Screw this Covid/science/history denier and his little war on woke.
I’m sorry for the Democrats in Florida, because that state is going to elect a Desantis or his equivalent next election and the one after that. Florida is Florida. Just like Texas is Texas. Uvalde voted for Abbott FFS. They still have Ted Cruz. FFS!!!
You have to hit people where it hurts – in their pockets. You have to vote as if you have aTtrans kid. Or a Black one. These anti LGTB laws are terrifying. When you host an event you have a duty to keep the attendees reasonably safe. So I’m not surprised people are changing venue. They should. I don’t feel safe in Florida. I’ve lived down south and those don’t take a wrong turn areas are terrifying. The violence in the air is palpable and the souls of those lynched cry out for justice. The stand your ground laws are a huge part of Black people being unsafe in Florida (and in the other states that have them). Voting matters. Judges matter.
My only hope is that Trump and Desantis split the Republican vote. They are both selfish narcissistic a-holes no one is going to be anyone’s running mate here they both have to be the star, and both are extremely dangerous to democracy. If those two split their party we have a fighting chance. We still cannot undo the damage that has been done with the Supreme Court and all the federal judges. Also Clarence Thomas needs to resign.
100% agree with this – vote like your child is part of any of the most marginalized groups. Keep their safety in mind at all times, even if you aren’t personally impacted.
Thank you kiittenmom! This country is REAL danger if we don’t stop the whataboutism, the false equivalency, the faux intellectualism, the I’m an undecided voter therefore I am more intelligent and a free thinker BS that the media engages in and this Anderson Cooper we have to give a nazi party a platform. BOTH PARTIES ARE NOT THE SAME. One has a damn lynching song as its anthem! People really need to wake up!
Well said, @SideEye.
Very well said.
I refuse to set in foot in any state that wants to treat me as a second class citizen due to the color of my skin, & I’m sure AF not spending my hard earned money anywhere LGBTQ aren’t welcome.
Thank you Acclaim. I feel the same way. They are so brazen now and emboldened by their orange idiot and their little lynching songs: they are attacking people in BROAD DAYLIGHT. In broad daylight! Ahmaud Arbery (GA) was jogging in the middle of the day when these yahoos decided to go Black people hunting, and they weren’t even initially charged!
I’m so glad the other Black people were there to protect that man who was attacked for doing his job while Black (AL) – they would have killed him – 5 or 6 on 1 are you kidding me? Those Black people were not having it and they pulled out a can of whoop ass. This is what we are going to have to start doing to send a clear message – we are not here to take your abuse! Sometimes you just have to pop someone in the mouth – they don’t understand love or kindness or respect – we have to start talking to people in their language.
I teach my son go nowhere alone. Nowhere! And make sure you are with people who have your back, who are willing to throw a punch to defend you. Make sure you are with people who value your life!
I feel like what happened in Alabama is a whole mood! And that brave 16 year old who jumped into the water and sprung into action to stop the attack – he is just a year older than my son! Hero! Imagine being this brave at 16! If he can face a vicious mob we can all do it.
I feel like you. I am not part of the LGTB community but anywhere they aren’t welcome I don’t go! Another community we have to be willing to throw down to protect – these people are out of control and it’s time we all stuck together to protect ourselves.
I don’t doubt that DeSantis is costing the state $$. I have lost any desire to visit Texas and Florida ever. That was before the plague of diseases popped up because of their anti-science movement. What a huge mess.
Our governor endorsed DeSantis, lol. Too bad everyone here loves Trump despite reports to the contrary.
The rents in Tampa have never been higher and finding an apartment is almost impossible. Apparently, Florida is not getting hit everywhere with people leaving the state.
Rents might be reflecting the rising insurance costs.
They are really charging what they can get for rent. In my area a one bedroom (nothing special) can be $2,000 a month. People from other parts of the country will come to Florida and pay that. They come for the warm weather.
DeSatan fired his campaign manager/enabler for his sorry showing in the polls. I I hope and pray that he ends that campaign and is forced to deal with what he’s done to Florida.
Except he replaced her with his chief of staff as governor, a man who is a huge extremist and use to be a lackey under Trump’s former commerce secretary, Wilbur Ross. Like Trump, he did it out of loyalty and surrounding himself with yes men. Expect this campaign to go even further extreme than it already was.
Gotta say I love that top photo with Mickey snickering!!!
I am as outraged over Deathsentence as can be, but to be honest I could never live in FL. There are estimated 1.3 million alligators. I don’t know how y’all can live knowing they are lurking and planning to kill you (those sneaky monsters scare the life out of me). As I look at retirement it kinda works out that I don’t want to live in any state with alligators and those are all (i think) red states anyway.
There are approximately 150,000 bears living in BC, 15,000 of which are grizzlies. (the really big and terrifying ones) I’ll take the bears any day. At least you stand a chance with them.
Where I live, we have bears, mountain lions, coyotes, and cowboys! I think mostly black bears, but a bear is a bear and can eat you.
Also, there are videos on yt of alligators being chased off by cats!
I live in north FL and worry constantly about boa constrictors moving up from the south. They scare the daylights out of me.
I live in the Orlando area and have worked in tourism for 30 years and am a longtime Disney and Sea World Passholder. I have noticed a lot of miserable grumpy a$$ people in the parks and as it’s been brutally hot and humid here, I’m sure that counts for part of it. But it’s just the general vibe over the last couple of years, more out and out nastiness and awful behavior to service industry members to the point that they make Brazilian tour groups look like sweethearts.
I vote blue and am in despair for the future of this state. Teachers are leaving in droves and they said on the news last night that there is an expected shortfall of 57,000 nurses by 2035. A lot of them used to come in from the Caribbean and Philippines and are POC. What will those who can’t afford to leave do?
I feel for the people who want to leave but can’t afford to. It has to be scary as hell having to live with DeSantis as your “leader”.
Brazilian here – are we super bad or did I miss something?
I apologize Nutella Toast, let me rephrase that. The groups I am referring to are the hordes of 15-16 year olds who come in bus loads at a time, generally led by a tour leader with an umbrella. Rampant line jumping, nonstop singing and chanting ensue. Come to think of it, the cheer and dance groups do that too. I take one look and run in the opposite direction when I see them coming.
Yeah, I’m a cranky old lady LOL. Again, my apologies, looking at my above comment, I should have edited it when I had the chance.
On the bright side, the Villages will probably remain!.
All those older white folks can overpay to glory in the malaria, leprosy, gator bites, zika and whatever next microbe comes out of the ooze.
Enjoy it with nursing shortages etc.
But hey, they got pickleball.
All I can say for Desantis is what Comes around Goes around. You want to be prejudice to people because they’re different from you, well you got what you deserve. Unfortunately bringing your entire state with you Down the Drain 🙄
Next step artists refusing to perform in Florida .
Many people come to Florida because there is no state tax. They think it will be cheaper. It used to be. Unfortunately, our property taxes are some of the highest in the country. Housing has gone up, and rents are high. I know young people who are discouraged. My area is so much more crowded since the pandemic. We talk all the time about moving to some place cooler.
Florida sounds like a fictional dystopian state. How did it come to this? I imagine it could get worse. Is Florida not a popular retirement state, and do they not get a lot of wintering folks there? What is the worse case scenario?
Worse case scenario: rising sea levels completely inundate Florida. The highest point in Florida is a mere 345′ above sea level. Of course, if they continue to build new houses & associated infrastructure, sink holes will continue to swallow up a lot of the land, so there may not be much left to inundate in the end. Particularly as climate change is increasing the number & strength of hurricanes, so there’s that.
It’s interesting that out of all the places the leprosy outbreak is happening in Florida. Then it makes sense, they don’t like immigrants , they don’t like POC, against LGBTQ and want to be separated from woke policies . So now they’ll get their wish, they truly will be separated from the rest of the world . Currently they’re calling leprosy as an endemic, but it could be a pandemic which can separate Floridians from everyone else 🙄. Karma is real.
I see that Florida has a corporate tax and income tax among other taxes. I anticipate that tourist dollars will impact the bottom line, so part of the income Florida needs will likely not be there. This will affect every taxpayer in Florida. They’ll raise taxes or cut programs.
Sadly even if their child is part of those groups a lot of parents still won’t vote for their children’s best interest. My Florida living dad-who proclaimed he was an ally for pro choice-voted for Desatan because “i like how he handled hurricane season”. (Yes I know thats messed up). And this while having two daughters who both identify as part of the lgbtq+ community. Thankfully my sister and I both live in separate states from my dad and he is current on both of our sh*t lists.
Eta this was supposed to be a response to kittenmom.
Y’all I’m a rideshare driver in the Destin FL area. This is an expensive state to me. Most jobs pay $13 to $16 an hour. This is the jobs they don’t outsource to foreign exchange students who work the season and go home. Meanwhile rent and house prices keep rising. I vote Democrat every time. Idk that boycotting is the answer. It just makes it harder for us that are already struggling. IDK what the answer is
Very simple: DeSantis has turned Florida into the shithole that America will become if he’s elected president. I’m a New Yorker, but I hate this asshole with the heat of a thousand suns. I believe he is worse than Trump because this DeSantis bitch has a systematic plan to destroy America the way he has destroyed Florida. He will pick fights with all the major businesses in this country and bring them to their knees just to increase his own clout and bankrupt the country. He will take apart this country brick by brick because he is a despot in the making. I actually hate him more than Trump, which is insane.
If youre into malaria, leprosy, syphilis, and drug resistant gonorrhea, Florida is the place for you. I fucking hate it here. I gate that piece of shit governor. I hate all the MAGA assholes.
Nobody should come here, and every decent person with means should flee. Leave this geographical butthole to the turds that have already roont it.
I can’t understand how the GOP still gets any money from the very wealthy. If the very wealthy who began this (with Russian money) wanted this, why? This will definitely impact them financially. The issues that the GOP run on and want to do all of those, it will seriously impact the economy of the Country. That will seriously impact the money flowing to the very wealthy. Why do they want this?