Prince William was ‘overruled’ by the king on the Prince Andrew issue

On Sunday, Prince William chauffeured Prince Andrew to church on the Balmoral estate. Kate rode in the back, and the photo was captured exclusively for the British media, almost as if it was a set-up and the palace arranged a special little “show of family unity.” As I’ve said all week, I suspect that the point of the Unity Photo was to show Prince Harry what he was missing, and to create a storyline in the British media about how the family is all up in Scotland and Harry is the problem. I suspect that’s how William was talked into the photo-op as well, Charles likely told him “we need to show family unity doesn’t include the brother you hate.” And William, who is an idiot, agreed. Except that after that careful photo-op, all people can talk about is how the family is eager to rehabilitate a pervert and rapist, but they’re still too racist to be nice to Meghan. So, obviously, William had to call up some media allies and brief against his father. That man hasn’t even been in Balmoral for a week and he’s already briefing against his dad.

The King overruled Prince William by ordering the family to fall in line in welcoming the disgraced Duke of York back into the family fold, it has been claimed.

The monarch has made it clear to the senior royals that Prince Andrew would not be shut out any longer and suggested the Prince of Wales would be the one to drive him to church in Scotland last Sunday, sources have revealed. His appearance alongside the future king and queen, while knowing they would all be photographed, has been seen as a major boost in the York camp towards the Duke’s rehabilitation.

One Balmoral insider suggested there had been some confusion over how Andrew, 63, would be travelling to church until he received a call on Sunday morning prior to going. After the public declaration of support from William and Kate, with Andrew riding in the car to and from the service in Balmoral where the royals are on holiday, one source said: “It’s more than he (Andrew) could have wished for.”

One insider said that while William may have attended private functions with his uncle, namely last Christmas at Sandringham aside from the Queen’s funeral and King’s Coronation, he had absolutely no desire to be seen with the Duke in public. “It appears he may have had his wings clipped somewhat”, said another source.

Manu Reid, leader of the Women’s Equality Party, said: “Women and everyone who believes in standards in public life deserves better than this. A lot of what the monarchy does is about symbolism. If the monarchy rushes to rehabilitate a member who, whatever else he did or didn’t do, brought two paedophiles into its inner circles and gave them credibility, it will symbolise contempt for the victims of those paedophiles and for the victims of violence and exploitation everywhere.”

Meanwhile, well placed sources have revealed how the Duke of York’s ex-wife, Sarah Ferguson, who is staying at Balmoral with the royals, alongside Andrew and their children has been the “life and soul” of family gatherings. One Balmoral insider said “Fergie” had been seen talking to the King and Prince William on “several separate occasions”.

The King has had several conversations with his brother and decided, while he will not return to public duties as would be the Duke’s preference, he should be welcomed back into the fold. A source said: “The King feels he has an awful lot on his in-tray and this is one issue he wants to draw a line under.” Neither Buckingham Palace nor Kensington Palace commented.

[From The Daily Mirror]

Regarding Charles’s feelings… the thing is, this is nothing new. They’re presenting it like it’s new information or a new decision on Charles’s part, but Charles allowed Andrew to attend all of QEII’s funeral events, he allowed Andrew at Sandringham for Christmas and they spent Easter together too. Charles has telegraphed his acceptance of Andrew for the past year, limited to family occasions. And I agree that it speaks volumes about what the Windsors find acceptable.

As for William calling up his connection at the Daily Mirror… it’s too funny. William is always an eager-beaver for taking credit for everything, and now we’re to believe that his father “overruled” him and “made” Peg chauffeur his pervert uncle to church? Please. As I said, William is a moron who got played and now he’s briefing against his father to cover his ass.

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  1. Tessa says:

    I am loving this. Damage control from prince keen. He is getting criticized in the media and Kate is too. Serves them right
    And Charles chose to let William drive harry out. What dysfunction there is in that family

    • Pinkosaurus says:

      Tee hee. I am betting this directive was 100% from Camzilla because she and her handpicked former Fail editor stooge need to keep feeding the tabloid beast before they turn on her. Dumb W&K were the victims this time.

      • Couch Potato says:

        Ding ding ding @Pinkosaurus! That’s exactely the way they’ve been working for years. Now that Harry and Meghan are gone, she makes her puppet king through the next son and his wife under the bus. Wouldn’t surprise me if this is one of many punishments for being lazy, late to the coronation and the garden show debacle. Willnot probably agreed to drive him to show Harry, and didn’t understand how it would make them look until he read it in the rags.

    • seaflower says:

      WanK aren’t strategic or smart.

      • Christine says:

        I’m sure that idiot feels like he’s won, somehow, because he’s managed to get them to basically crop him out, leaving Kitty to hold the bag. These people are so transparent.

    • Endora says:

      I wondered yesterday why there is NO picture where Williams whole/half face is seen driving that car!? in every picture/website is the same pic as above ; only a slight sliver of Wills face was shown!

      no one anywhere has mentioned that. How did William get the paper to not show even half his face? yet ALL of kkatties and Andrews faces are shown?

      Perhaps Wills and Charles cooked that up *together!?
      Seriously there is no reason why the photog doesn’t have a pic with all 3 of their faces .

      • Monlette says:

        The press kept him out of the picture to protect him from his own stupidity.

        This is because he is a future king with decades ahead of him, and they don’t want to get culled from the rota, and cut off from all the swanky invitations that come with it.

        That, in a nutshell is why the press coverage of William is so unfailing sycophantic. Though sometimes it comes back to bite him.

        Like when he filmed a cheesy informercial for Earthshot Burgers, which was clearly a tongue in cheekiness that went right over the BM’s heads since they they reported on it like it was an actual thing and now William looks like a massive fraud for “staging it”.

    • Mrs.Krabapple says:

      Some people thought that when Elizabeth died, Charles would throw Andrew out because they don’t like each other, but others (including me) knew Charles would do no such thing. Andrew has too much dirt on the family. He’s protected.

    • CocofromCanada says:

      They go to church?!?

  2. ML says:

    So now we’re supposed to believe that PW, whose first language is English, doesn’t know the meaning of “NO?”

    • Polly says:

      Exactly. Nobody held a gun to their head and made them do this.

    • Jais says:

      Yeah, I’m curious at how Charles made William drive Andrew. I thought William would just have an incandescent meltdown. Charles can’t get him to do more work but he can get him to drive Andrew? Idk if I believe it.

      • Harper says:

        Prince Stubborn would never capitulate unless some skeleton of his was held over his head. I think it’s either Camilla is in possession of photos that show what Burger King was really up to when he whiffed on the women’s World Cup. Or, CRex threatened to cancel the separation announcement that Burger King is desperately counting on.

        My other idea, which I said yesterday, was that the Wails arrived separately to Balmoral and this was their required proof of togetherness shot. But releasing a boring car ride photo might include more talk about the world cup fiasco, so Burger King used Andrew to change the conversation.

      • The Hench says:

        Honestly, I think Kaiser’s guess is right – Charles told William that it would infuriate/upset/send a message to Harry if he was seen to be accepting Andrew back into the fold. William can’t see strategically further than the end of his large nose and leapt at the chance to rub Harry’s face in something. He didn’t think through the backlash that would come at him for chauffeuring someone who – at the very least – invited convicted paedophiles and rapists into the palaces as his friends.

        That was it – no threats required from Charles. As we know, he doesn’t have the cohones to stand up to Wills.

      • Gabby says:

        Like Harry even gives a shit.

      • Lorelei says:

        @Gabby, that’s why it’s hilarious. It shows what morons they are by exposing their train of thought. If Harry even saw it at all, his reaction was likely relief that he has nothing to do with that shitshow anymore. But I do agree that William is stupid enough to believe it would upset Harry and that’s why he ultimately agreed to it.

        (Although I’m a little surprised that William didn’t just…refuse? Charles can’t seem to make him do anything else, since William is so stubborn, so why would he agree to this?)

  3. JMOney says:

    You just know Billy is counting this as two engagements – one chauffeuring his pedo uncle and the other being in a car with Katie.

    To think, Billy would much rather be a chauffeur to two loathsome individuals than go to World Cup to cheer on the Lionesses as President of the FA.

    Lazy does not even begin to cut it.

    • Lorelei says:

      @JMoney, lmao (especially the Kate part) and too true.

    • dimdamdom says:

      and the girl is on the backseat, which is not the place for a married woman. It’s humiliating and revealing of the state of her couple – and it advertise super patriarcal values.

      • Cairidh says:

        In Britain traditionally “the car test” showed what class people were.
        If two couples were in a car the Working class would have the two men in the front, women in the back. Middle class would have the drivers wife next to him and the other couple in the back. Upper class would have the driver and his guests wife in the front. The guest and the drivers wife in the back. That was considered good manners, to give the guest wife the front seat.

        So Williams behaviour is possibly lower class and (by upperclass standards) bad manners, by not giving the lady the respect of sitting in the front seat.
        Or possibly he’s following the upper class way of putting the guest in the passenger seat which in this case happens to be a single man, Andrew.

      • Lorelei says:

        I cannot imagine having to navigate the class system in the UK. I mean the US obviously has a ton of its own issues, but all of these little (many unspoken?) “rules” would stress me out so much. I guess it’s different if you grow up with it— it’s just what you know? But I get so overwhelmed reading stuff like that! I’m afraid I’d be inadvertently offending people left and right!

  4. Becks1 says:

    oh this is hilarious to see. I agree this sounds like William realized how this was going over and this is his attempt at damage control, but someone from Charles’ team is fighting back even in this article with the line about “getting his wings clipped.” so even if William didnt want to drive Andrew, he was told he didn’t have a choice.

    And that this article is actually quoting someone so openly anti-Andrew – I mean, she’s right, whatever he did or didn’t do to Virginia or any other girl – he was still openly cavorting with Epstein and Maxwell. But my my my. Charles’ first Balmoral summer is off to a rip roaring start.

    • SussexWatcher says:

      His whole reign is off to a terrible start. From barking and bullying staff to pushing pens off the table like an angry cat to eggs throwing to rehabilitating his pedo brother!

      How can someone who prepared for something for more than 60 years just be so incredibly incompetent and stupid?! It’s both shocking and hilarious and I hope it hastens the downfall of the monarchy. He should have just paid off his brother and forced him to go away somewhere. But I guess since Chuckles is himself BFFs with pedos he doesn’t see anything wrong with his brother’s behavior.

      The whole lot of them need to be chucked in the bin of history.

      • Gabby says:

        How is he so incompetent after waiting 60 years for the job? I think you answered your own question. The late queen was so reluctant to transfer any responsibilities to Chuckles, that he never developed the strength or practice necessary to reign. Now the person who can train him is dead.

    • Eurydice says:

      It seems to me that the “summit” has already happened and William was given a laundry list of all the things about which he has no choice.

      • Becks1 says:

        that sounds about right to me @eurydice.

      • Jaded says:

        Yes @Eurydice, I too believe that the *Summit* was more of Chuck cracking the Wails’ heads together. Work more, act like you’re not separated, drive your uncle to church for the photogs or some deep shit’s going to be dropped. He’s the King now and whether or not Willnot and Khate like it they still have to march to the orders of KFC and his Mistress-Consort.

      • Lorelei says:

        @Eurydice, that’s probably it. I’d already forgotten about “the summit,” lol, but this makes sense. If that is in fact what is going on here, I’m eager to see what else W&K don’t want to do but are forced to!

      • Christine says:

        I’d completely forgotten too! Yep, the Wails got yelled at.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      The press around the Keen laziness is likely one of the reasons behind this – there is clearly some serious sh!t happening behind the scenes. For Chuck to backtrack on Andrew like this means his needs the support of his siblings as his son and heir is refusing to step up. And I don’t think the leaking against Peggy is going to work like they have done in the past – he wants out: out of his marriage and his life. Mumbles has pretty much been side lined and her family has been publicly knee capped so it would seem that a divorce settlement has been reached and an announcement is coming soon. The stage is pretty much set for a Keen divorce where Catty and Ma are cut out completely out of anything royal related.

      Peggy is not financially beholden to his father now so (thinks) he can do what he wants and this is what we are seeing play out.

      • Waitwhat says:

        I’m not sure who you’re talking about with all the nicknames haha. Who’s “catty and ma”? Who is “mumbles”?

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        Catty and Mumbles are kHate – I just like to mix up the nicknames for fun. Ma is Carole.

    • Nic919 says:

      William was reminded who is king and it’s not him. That’s why Andrew was given a ride. And William is not financially independent because while he has income from the duchy, none of his current residences belong to him. Charles controls them. Unless they want to live in that cottage in Wales, William does have to listen to his father. William does not live a frugal lifestyle to both maintain the multiple properties and pay for Kate’s endless wardrobe, the kids schooling and his own personal spending.

      Sure normal people could live a great life with the millions William gets, but he’s not that guy.

      • Becks1 says:

        People keep saying “what does Charles have to control William with now” and you’ve laid it out pretty perfectly – he still has a lot. yes, William gets millions a year now from the duchy but he doesn’t get a house, he doesnt get access to the royal collection, he doesn’t get the helicopters, etc. Plus the royals are all cheap, William isnt going to spend his money if he can spend Charles’.

        so yeah, I think this was about “clipping William’s wings” like the article says.

      • Lorelei says:

        I wonder if William — hear me out— ever considers just taking himself out of the line of succession. He’s clearly a miserable person. He’s WAY more miserable than he was before Harry left. Harry flat-out said publicly a few years ago that no one actually wanted the job of monarch (besides Charles, maybe). And it’s blatantly obvious that William wants what Harry has.

        He has tons of money now, and while I don’t think it’s *likely* that he’ll walk, because “being future king” is literally all he has going for him, I feel like it’s probably crossed his mind and it might be an idea he toys with on and off.

        I’m sure he has £££ hidden away offshore like the rest of that trash family, and he’s certainly arrogant enough to think he could somehow pull it off— to walk away from the “job” but still maintain a lavish lifestyle, somehow.

        I doubt it would ever actually happen, but I bet he thinks about it sometimes, to make himself feel better, and to console himself and (falsely) assure himself that he has options — even though he really doesn’t have any feasible ones unless he commits to becoming a recluse.

      • Cairidh says:

        When he was a teenager he said in an interview he sometimes thinks about running away to the Himalayas.

      • Nic919 says:

        Problem is that William leaving places George in his position and then Charlotte and Louis. He should never have had legitimate kids if he was serious about leaving altogether. He wasn’t.

  5. brit says:

    William and Charles are having a power struggle and it’s clear Charles is letting him know who’s in “charge” For William to say his wings have been clipped a little…hmm. Of course, he’s a coward at heart who can dish it but can’t take it. But it’s clear William and Charles are squabbling.

  6. Tessa says:

    Somehow I don’t believe ferg ie is the life and soul of gatherings. She is playing up to will and Charles to make sure she’s not ousted from her royal residence.

    • Waitwhat says:

      Tbh Fergie has the closest thing to a personality out of the whole lot of them. She probably IS the life of the party and that just says a lot about how boring and dull the rest of them are.

  7. So now Fergie is the life and soul at this event? Someone is going to be jealous because she thinks she is the savior. Cue a Carole story being released trying to make her daughter the stalker look better. The soap opera continues.

    • Eurydice says:

      Yes, life and soul, but for whom? I love the bit about how she’s been seen talking to Charles and William on several occasions – that doesn’t sound like life and soul, more like they’re acknowledging her presence.

    • notasugarhere says:

      It reads like this well-placed royal insider is Fergie.

  8. Sherry says:

    Wow, that must be a fun holiday!

  9. Brassy Rebel says:

    Charles is doing this because he has so many perv connections of his own. He’s probably afraid if he keeps Andrew at arm’s length, the media may bring up those connections because of his hypocrisy. And William is not exactly in a position to object, given all the pegging rumors. This family really is a dumpster 🔥.

    • ThatsNotOkay says:

      Charles courted and married a teenager. That’s about all there is to say about that.

      • roooth says:

        Charles groomed a teenager all while sleeping with a married woman. That does speak volumes

      • Tessa says:

        Charles in the engagement interview spoke of his first impression of Diana as an attractive 16 year old. Charles started courting her ca 2 years later. Camilla started advising the teen. All very sordid.

      • Nic919 says:

        And British society in 1981 didn’t protest very much that he was doing this. Had there been an outcry about the age difference charles would never have married Diana. But the British people were just fine with the young 19 year old girl being served up to a prince.

    • Hannah1 says:

      Yes, I made similar comment below before I saw yours

    • Jaded says:

      Yes — who can forget his close friendship with Jimmy Savile, rapist and pedophile. Seems everyone but KFC knew about his sick predilections. And how about Bishop Peter Bull? The senior clergy and KFC helped cover up the sexual abuse of children by him and others for years before he was arrested. Disgusting…

  10. JT says:

    It’s interesting that Charles is going out of his way to show acceptance for Andrew publicly when even the queen didn’t. After her little church ride with Andrew post Epstein “suicide,” she really did limit her public interactions with him. Although Andrew did his best to make his presence known, the queen seemed to care about the optics. Under the queen he was banned from the Christmas walk, but was front and center for Charles. Andrew was her favorite, but she had enough sense to at least try to be seen as punishing him, while Charles is almost daring the public to put up a fuss about him. Very interesting.

    • The Hench says:

      QEII had Andrew – against the wishes we were told of Charles and Will – travel with her to and walk her very publicly into the front row of Philip’s memorial service long after that church car ride. Then there were the stories of him going to see her every day at Windsor and it was her £12m that settled the suit. I would say she never withdrew her support or was seen as punishing him.

      Also – if Charles were doing the equivalent, HE would be the one driving to church with Andrew – not making Wills do it. So I find it more interesting that he picked William to do his dirty work.

      • JT says:

        Of course he saw her everyday and was seen riding horses with her in his private time but I don’t believe we saw them riding to church together again. He wasn’t at the Christmas walk publicly for a few years and just seemed to be less visible., especially after the payment to VG. I mean, he was wearing his robes for the garter service with both Charles and William, as well as the palace briefing that Andrew is still very much beloved. That was during Charles’ reign. Now every week there is new story about Andrew being able to keep RL, RPO security, as well as very public invites to Balmoral. He is spoken about almost weekly where before stories about Andrew weren’t mentioned much. At least form my perspective.

  11. Lizzie says:

    I guess the Wails’ kids only go to church on Christmas and Easter.

  12. Emma says:

    Sure, Jan.

  13. Beana says:

    If I recall correctly, Anne and Edward have always privately included Andrew as normal – I recall reading shortly that shortly after QEII’s death, Charles was mad that his 3 siblings had a shooting party that made the news. Sounds like Charles likes to keep Andrew under his control and only trot him out when it makes Charles look good. William didn’t have a problem flying Andrew to Scotland and driving him to Balmoral the day that QEII died, so this is more of the same. They use Andrew for optics, especially around church events, since few can argue with dragging a nonce to church. I thought the shocking bit here was how Fergie is self-promoting – Cammie won’t like it one bit!

  14. Moira's Rose's Garden says:

    Slightly OT: What’s up with the eyes in the back seat?

    • seaflower says:

      It’s all “Look at me! Look at me!”

      • Tessa says:

        Kate seems to be doing a bad imitation of lauren bacall.

      • North of Boston says:

        Yup!

        At it is remarkable that even though the photo is showing only a teensy tiny sliver of William’s face, it’s completely obvious he’s angrily glowering. (And given the sight lines and RV mirror placement, likely glowering at Kate)

        He seems incapable of ever containing his displeasure and rage.

    • Jais says:

      Kate’s need to be photographed did her no favors here. She shoulda sat back and out of view. Imagine wanting the camera on you so bad that you lean forward into a pic with a pedophile.

    • Lizzie says:

      Another article said seats were reversed on the was back, Kate was in front and Pedo in the back.

  15. Polly says:

    These people are rotten to the core.

  16. Amy Bee says:

    Yeah, this is William trying to cover his ass because he didn’t like the narrative that the press is pushing. I don’t believe William ever had a problem with Andrew. Who can people forget that when the Queen died Andrew was invited on the private jet to Scotland and was in the passenger seat of William’s car when they arrived at Balmoral? Nah, Andrew was always welcomed, William just pretended to be outraged by him.

    • Polo says:

      Thank you!
      This is what they’ve been doing since the Queens death. Nothing has changed and nothing will change. This story line will keep going for awhile until finally they fully saw screw it and he becomes a working royal again. He’s always been accepted now they just need the public to..

  17. Tarte au Citron says:

    Out of interest, if Mr Tarte and I were giving lift to a relative, they would be in the backseat unless there is some physical reason for them to be in the front. Just looks a bit odd to me that Kate was put in the back so Uncle Pedrew could sit beside Pegs. (Also… smiling for the cameras?! #eyeroll That’s Top CEO game face right there! 🙂 )

  18. Loretta says:

    And here ends KP’s fanfiction of William as the real person in power. King Charles just said “no, I give the orders and you do what you’re told and shut up” LMAO

  19. Krista says:

    I often wonder what meals are like when these people get together – I would find it awkward as hell to look people in the eye and be pleasant when I’m actively briefing the press about them. Do they just agree to not discuss the briefing? Or is every meeting a pitched battle of accusations and bitterness?

    • one of the marys says:

      Oh I think it’s real game of thrones level of chilly good manners and simmering animosity

  20. Mslove says:

    The Head of State is harboring a pedo and calling it family unity. How are they able to get away with this.

  21. Sandra says:

    Huh…So, Andrew can’t drive his own ass to church?

  22. Mel says:

    Guys, Andrew is gross, disgusting and should be in a jail somewhere but the fact of the matter is , he’s STILL his brother. They’re STILL family. Since these people are so eager to show everyone how loyal and compassionate they are , of course, Charles will hang on and draw him in. Charles and his advisors are way too stupid/stuck in the past to realize how this looks to people(especially younger people who are getting over that ‘boys will be boys” mess). Good Luck with this Chuck, that cannon is messy and loose. You’ll be sorry.

  23. Mary Pester says:

    😂🤣😂😂😂Oh Billy boy, camzilla strikes again, haven’t you learned yet, you do NOT try and overshadow your father or her, she will always bide her time and then strike hard. Brief as much as you want Billy, THE PICTURE is there for everyone to see, and someone 🤔🤔made sure the photographer was there to capture it, maybe, you should also have told your camera loving wife to “wind her neck in” for this one. Your damaged below the water line now 😂

    • Eurydice says:

      Yes, Charles will ALWAYS choose Camilla first – you’d think William would have comprehended that after 30+ years of experience. And you’d think he’d know how palace politics work, having stabbed his own brother in the back. But I hope he doesn’t learn too quickly – I’m enjoying the entertainment.

      • Nic919 says:

        I don’t think William understands that Charles puts Camilla above all because he would never do that with kate.

        I actually think Harry understands this aspect of Charles far more, and especially since he met Meghan and would do the same.

      • notasugarhere says:

        William puts Jecca above all others.

    • Deering24 says:

      “wind her neck in” 😂😂🤣🤣 She is kinda like a cobra, come to think of it…

  24. Ameerah M says:

    Kate’s wiglet in that top photo…girl can’t blend to save her life.

  25. Lisa Meyrose says:

    I wouldn’t let this perv anywhere near my daughter!

  26. L4Frimaire says:

    These people are the absolute worst and so tone deaf. This shows where their priorities are and how messed up it is. They barely show up for work, couldn’t be bothered to go to the Women’s World Cup to support the team, but think the public wants to see them chauffeuring Andrew’s the assh*le around. Shows they really don’t care about women or just public respect. The only service this batch of royals believe in is self-service.

  27. Athena says:

    Andrew was confused about how he would travel to the church? How about getting into the car he drove himself up to Balmoral in and drive himself to church.

    Also, if I see my neighbors say good morning to each other every day, I too can claim that I’ve seen my neighbors talking and would not be lying. Same with this nonsense about Fergie “talking” with Charles and William.

  28. QuiteContrary says:

    Congratulations, Windsors … you’ve given the nonce “more than he (Andrew) could have wished for.”

    As Harry says, character matters. And the Windsors reveal their lack of it every day.

  29. Dora says:

    I suspect it’s much Simpler then clipping Williams wings. Charles let it be known he was open to meeting with Harry, his people briefed the media, knowing William would whine, bitch and moan about Charles trying to calm the shitstorm he created, William called him to say don’t do it and Charles said fine, I won’t meet with Harry if you agree to a show of unity and be seen with Andrew in pubic. It’s a way to bring William in line and to rub Harry’s nose in the fact that he would rather support his brother the rapist, then his son, who dared to marry a black woman and defend her to the point of taking her out of the line of fire. William is jealous that Harry found a beautiful smart charismatic woman and he has Kate, a door mat William knows Harry married up and he hates him for it, but most of all, he hates Meghan because she isn’t impressed with his future king cosplay bullshit, and looks upon him with nothing but disdain

    • Aidee Kay says:

      “defend her to the point of taking her out of the line of fire.” <– exactly, @Dora. Harry said with his whole chest, "You lot are NOT going to drive my wife insane or to her death like you did my mother. And you are not going to throw my children under the bus to protect yours!" And his birth family hates him for it, and the UK press hates him more. Thank goodness for Meghan's U.S. citizenship and American contacts. Harry organized their escape but Meghan's world kept them safe.

      • aftershocks says:

        ^^ Very, very true @Aidee Kay. 💯

        At the same time, it bears pointing out that Meg & Haz both have lifelong friends and VIP contacts. It is their combined charisma, savvy brilliance, and connections to substantive movers-and-shakers that has made the difference in them carving out a successful life away from the toxic Windsors (e.g., Harry’s friendship with David Foster helped them obtain sanctuary in the Vancouver Island mansion, albeit briefly once their locale was leaked by the firm).

        As Harry said in their revealing engagement interview: “We know we make a good team … Our relationship comes first…”

  30. ChattyCath says:

    Meghan you are so lucky to have fled this rats’ nest! All these people are very mentally disturbed for one

    • Mon says:

      Right @ chattycat – it’s actually good that M& H are not there. As the saying goes, what was meant for your harm is actually for your good. It took a special type of woman to stand with Harry on this forging new path with the world’s media hating you. May God continue to bless their path.

      Watching Heart of Invictus and it dawned on me that Harry is the only Prince doing things at a global level, commanding a global audience. In the last 2-3 weeks, Harry raised $1 Million for a charity he founded over 15 years ago and released a documentary on a global platform shining a light on another charity he founded 10 years ago. He achieved this with a media wind going against him. No other prince is achieving this level of impact- The PoW has the media full support & has yet to find his purpose ( & i empathise as each person has their journey) or achieve similar level of impact. Not even the CP of Denmark or in Sweden or wherever. It’s like Usain Bolt in Beijing in 2008- Harry is so far ahead, he slows down & still wins.

      As that Article in the Independent on Sunday stated, the PoW needs to make peace with his issues with H, for himself, to bring clarity, clear his chakra so he can connect to his purpose & live the best version of himself. His team does him no favours. Use the time while KC3 is on the throne to grow and gain wisdom & make his mark. People shouldn’t be able to read him so easily- as now they can trigger him whenever.

  31. Wannabefarmer says:

    Maybe the message they are trying to send to Harry is, ‘we’ll welcome you back too, see, we forgave even the pedophile (alleged), just come back, we’ll forgive you too’. This ‘message’ of course is based on a whole bunch is inane assumptions, spurious comparisons and false equivalencies. There are ZERO similarities b/w Harry and andrew. charles went too far with his vindictiveness toward his son. He backed off taking andrew’s house. Harry sees all of this. Remember his comment about them not taking away his security and that of his wife and child b/c, well look at andrew? So I dont know how many ways Harry has to say it? He is NOT coming back to the old ways.institution.

    Also, I think charles does want, and needs, to get the andrew business ‘settled’ and this is a reasonable way to do it. He cant be banished from the family forever, just from the institution. But, poor willy, charles could have let andy sit in the back of his car with his wife. That would have sent a stronger message if this is what he really wants to do, but of course, its charlie who never said a bad thing nor did a wise one either,

  32. Hannah1 says:

    Given what we know of royals’ depravities and Charles being close to Jimmy Saville and Lord Mountbatten, it is likely they are all bound in a web of secrets. Andy’s behavior is normal to them — the only problem is dealing with the bothersome public.

  33. smee says:

    “show Harry what he’s missing” – going to church with old people and predators? Devastated, I’m sure

  34. Libra says:

    Charles is sending a message alright. He and the family do not believe Andrew has done anything wrong. Being stupid is not a crime. They are trying to stay one step ahead of something worse about to land and are circling the wagons. I always thought it was only a matter of time before other charges are filed.

  35. Well Wisher says:

    “Anyway, there’s another reason why the media and the Windsors continue to relitigate the Sussexit – it’s because there’s a huge division in “what the family wants” versus “what the media wants.”

    This statement from Kaiser from August 29, 2023, in part provide context for this article…….
    The media actually want the precedent of reintegration of Andrew, to get the one that got away….
    He is actually making his way without help of their PR/slander approach.

    I share the thoughts of krys posted earlier today on twitter:-
    “Prince Bully is “shadow king’ when it comes to taking praise Then switches to “my father made me do it” when it comes to shifting blame I like that for King Charles, in William he has the son he deserves.”

    Insert missing character ……

  36. Queenie says:

    It triggers me seeing Kate in the back seat. This is the epitome of her existence.

  37. Bint says:

    I couldn’t figure out what’s in it for W&K
    because I don’t think Charles can force him to do much. Then it dawned on me, it’s a trade. W&K want Royal Lodge so badly they would agree to be seen chauffeuring a sleaze like Andrew.

  38. Nerd says:

    To me this was all staged by the King and future king. The whole premise that Andrew not only has to go to church, but needs to be driven there is what makes this whole story seem so staged. Andrew just happens to be there the same time that William and Kate happen to finally shorten their separation vacation to go to Balmoral. He just happens to have the desire to go to church but is incapable of getting to church without driving himself, by Fergie, one of his daughters or even an unknown driver? The driver that has to take Andrew has to be William and Kate who are supposed to be the more popular of the UK family. This was staged by Charles and William. That is why the photos exists and they don’t contain a clear view of William. William is just as part of this staged photo op as Charles is to help take the heat off of William because of the WWC and try and ease Andrew back into the fold. The royals are just unbelievably stupid and didn’t realize the backlash they would get for trying to shove Andrew back in peoples faces. This isn’t the first time that Andrew has been paraded out for the public to see. They took forever removing his patronages and security 🙄 because none of them see what he did was wrong because he didn’t marry an accomplished, intelligent and beautiful biracial woman and have children with her. Paedophilia is okay with them. Their family has at least one per generation. It’s odd and disgusting. They just don’t want anyone who is accomplished and biracial coming to Balmoral.